A blogger named Pin Valentine wrote an article in response to the orland, Florida shooting. John sutter: a few statements of his caused me to question why this was brought up. He says Christians are no better than radical Muslims, like myself, like ISIS and Boko Haram. Sutter says Christians have spread through the same means that Islam has done in the past.
A blogger named Pin Valentine wrote an article in response to the orland, Florida shooting. John sutter: a few statements of his caused me to question why this was brought up. He says Christians are no better than radical Muslims, like myself, like ISIS and Boko Haram. Sutter says Christians have spread through the same means that Islam has done in the past.
A blogger named Pin Valentine wrote an article in response to the orland, Florida shooting. John sutter: a few statements of his caused me to question why this was brought up. He says Christians are no better than radical Muslims, like myself, like ISIS and Boko Haram. Sutter says Christians have spread through the same means that Islam has done in the past.
(A Response to Pin Valentine) By Christian Anarchist
I was reading among the
internet one day and I came across an article thanks to a fan of mine. The article came from a blogger named Pin Valentine. He wrote an article in response to the Orland, Florida shooting massacre that happened recently. It was truly tragic and I can understand where religion would be mentioned. Islam
was certainly a good motivation for
the killers deed. However, Christianity got mentioned and a few statements of his caused me to question why this would be brought up in an article entitled The Man Who Pulled The Trigger where politics concerning the debate on guns is not something I get into. I may be pro-gun, however I lean more left in the way that I want to make sure that the risk of a violent psychopath and new brand of killer doesnt reach the media. I want to tackle the statement he made on religion since that is my specialty and I noticed something quite interesting.
In his blog, he states the
following in his concluding paragraph: Lets talk about religion. Christians are no better than radical Muslims. Christianity has been spread through violence, massacres, torture, force, genocide, infanticide, and slavery since its inception (1). Now that is quite a statement since he doesnt even use an adjective to describe a certain type of Christian, but rather Christians in general, like myself, are no better than Muslims like ISIS and Boko Haram. He then says Christianity has spread through the same means that Islam has done in the past. This may be true for Roman Catholicism by means of
the Spanish Inquisition and The
Crusades (both events before the Protestant Reformation). So these werent done by your Protestant Christians, but rather a Roman Catholic Church. However, let us discuss some of the things the Protestants did. Riots, wars and witch hunts were done under the name of a certain individual who was leading in a certain Protestant movement. This however is MiddleAges Christianity with a corruption in the Roman Catholic Church obviously taking place and the Reformers were still trying to get their mess together. What about Early Christian History? Surely, this must matter to Pin if he wants to
establish his case more strongly to
say this is Christianity at its purest in moral teachings. However, when you look at early church history, you do not see such a case able to be made. This is only meant to be a short essay so we will cover two main topics that deal with the morality aspect in the debate: slavery and war. Slavery Let us first start with slavery, seeing as we have historical evidence against the claim that since the beginning, Christians promoted and endorsed slavery. Lets go with a common sense
argument along with people like
Thomas Jefferson. He wanted to get rid of slavery and abolish it, but at the same time, even he owned slaves. Why was this? Was it because it was difficult for him to simply abolish it or did he dabble and actually endorse slavery? I highly doubt any secularist would agree that a humanist like Jefferson was loving or pushing for slavery. Now concerning the Early Church, how did they view it in light of the passages normally used from the bible by atheists to claim the bible supports Slavery? Lets look at something that was observed by Church Historian, Phillip Schaff: Yet from the outset Christianity
has labored for this end
[slaverys]; not by impairing the right of property, not by outward violence, nor sudden revolution; this, under the circumstances, would only have made the evil worse; but by its moral power, by preaching the divine descent and original unity of all men, their common redemption through Christ, the duty of brotherly love, and the true freedom of the spirit. It placed slaves and masters on the same footing of dependence on God and of freedom in God, the Father, Redeemer, and Judge of both. It conferred inward freedom even under outward bondage, and taught obedience to God and for
the sake of God, even in the
enjoyment of outward freedom (2). So we have this written down into history. However, what could cause this? Is this another apologetic dance around the bush or is there any proof that the Early Christians believed what Phillip Schaff is claiming? Now let us explore the Early Church Fathers by exploring Lactantius, an Early Church author who was not only an advisor to the Roman Emperor, Constantine I, but also he was a tutor to his son. In Lactantius Divine Institutes, he explains the following concerning the status of slaves in light of Christianity: For as He distributes
to all alike His one light, sends
forth His fountains to all, supplies food, and gives the most pleasant rest of sleep; so He bestows on all equity and virtue. In His sight no one is a slave, no one a master; for if all have the same Father, by an equal right we are all children. No one is poor in the sight of God, but he who is without justice; no one is rich, but he who is full of virtues; no one, in short, is excellent, but he who has been good and innocent; no one is most renowned, but he who has abundantly performed works of mercy; no one is most perfect, but he who has filled all the steps of virtue. Therefore neither the
Romans nor the Greeks could
possess justice, because they had men differing from one another by many degrees, from the poor to the rich, from the humble to the powerful; in short, from private persons to the highest authorities of kings. For where all are not equally matched, there is not equity; and inequality of itself excludes justice, the whole force of which consists in this, that it makes those equal who have by an equal lot arrived at the condition of this life (3). This was an early church father who may have been later during the time of Constantine, but what about before that?
Clement of Rome was the Bishop
of Rome during the 1st century AD and is actually mentioned in Philippians 4:3 of the New Testament. In his only genuine epistle, he explains something interesting about how Christians would try to free slaves and help others by submitting themselves into the cruel system: To bring forward some examples from among the heathen: Many kings and princes, in times of pestilence, when they had been instructed by an oracle, have given themselves up to death, in order that by their own blood they might deliver their fellow-citizens [from destruction]. Many have gone forth from their
own cities, that so sedition might
be brought to an end within them. We know many among ourselves who have given themselves up to bonds, in order that they might ransom others. Many, too, have surrendered themselves to slavery, that with the price which they received for themselves, they might provide food for others (4). So we why would Clement, who was around when the early church was starting and even travelled with the Apostle Paul to learn some of the teachings of Christianity, make a statement that his church in Rome would be this humble? If Pins statement is the case, then
we would see that since Clement
was around during the inception of the Christian Church, he wouldnt be for slavery. But fortunately, in Clements surviving letter, he addresses the issue of humility to free slaves and feed others. In one of the Pseudo-Ignatius writings, we have something known as the Apostolic Constitutions which state the following about slavery: Say unto the people under you what Solomon the wise says: Honour the Lord out of your just labours, and pay your first-fruits to Him out of your fruits of righteousness, that your garners may be filled with fullness of wheat, and your presses
may burst out with wine
[Proverbs 3:9-10]. Therefore maintain and clothe those that are in want from the righteous labour of the faithful. And such sums of money as are collected from them in the manner aforesaid, appoint to be laid out in the redemption of the saints, the deliverance of slaves, and of captives, and of prisoners, and of those that have been abused, and of those that have been condemned by tyrants to single combat and death on account of the name of Christ. For the Scripture says: Deliver those that are led to death, and redeem those that are ready to be
slain, do not spare [Proverbs
24:11] (5). Notice that in this writing, which is defined as the means of how the Christian Church conducts itself on a daily basis, it states that the funds from the churches was actually used to buy slaves to free them among other types of people. So whoever it was that wrote this, they were aware of how the early church behaved. War/Jihad/Killing I appropriately called this section the following because if the claim that Christianity is similar to Islam, then they would be
advocating or have history in this
same concept since its inception. Before we dive in, let me make one thing clear. I have noticed in the news that there are people who cheered after the slaughter of the LGBT community. These people were Christians I understand, but they do not represent the doctrines of historical and biblical Christianity. It is time I make it clear and will continue to defend this position. I will also defend my position further now with more quotes of the Church Fathers. Ignatius of Antioch was a bishop of Antioch as well as a student of the Apostle John. Ignatius surely had his experience to learn from
one of Jesus disciples as well as
being made a leader of a church. In his letter to the Ephesians, he makes the following exhortation to the Christians there: Take heed, then, often to come together to give thanks to God, and show forth His praise. For when you assemble frequently in the same place, the powers of Satan are destroyed, and the destruction at which he aims is prevented by the unity of your faith. Nothing is more precious than peace, by which all war, both in heaven and earth, is brought to an end (6). In Ignatius exhortation, he says that when we fellowship in the church, we are at peace, which is
precious. Why does he find this to
be the case and not the idea of committing executions of others who are heretics or sinners? He would certainly have the authority to do so as a bishop of the church of Antioch. Hippolytus was a bishop of unknown locations, but is considered an antipope by Roman Catholics for his criticism of other bishops in Rome during his time. In his Apostolic Tradition written in 215 AD, he helped to keep early 2nd century Christian practices written down. In this, he writes the following: A soldier of the civil authority must be taught not to kill men and to refuse to do so if he is
commanded, and to refuse to take
an oath; if he is unwilling to comply, he must be rejected (7). He certainly showed no love to the idea of a soldier of the government killing people. He even went as far as to say if somebody went on killing under the oath of a government as a Christian, implying that there is a sense of rejection or excommunication being implied toward the end, that they were to be rejected from the church. Why would this be if the theory is that since its inception, the church would be into things such as crusades? Ill answer that after this last quote.
Justin Martyr was an Early
Christian who is known as the first apologist in Christianity. He was certainly a well-educated man and he had to deal with misconceptions about the faith. He wrote his famous work that goes by the name, First Apology of Justin Martyr, was aimed at the Roman Emperor Antoninus Pius concerning rumors about Christians. There were stories in Rome about how they were atheists who practiced cannibalism and incest to name a few rumors of their time. This letter was meant to address and relieve any worries to the Romans. Especially since Christians were blamed for the Great Fire of Rome
in 64 AD. In his 39th chapter, he
states the following: For from Jerusalem there went out into the world, men, twelve in number, and these illiterate, of no ability in speaking: but by the power of God they proclaimed to every race of men that they were sent by Christ to teach to all the word of God; and we who formerly used to murder one another do not only now refrain from making war upon our enemies, but also, that we may not lie nor deceive our examiners, willingly die confessing Christ (8). So Justin Martyr knew people would observe him and other Christians, but his church also knew. So the conduct
they displayed while being seen by
everyone is that they used to kill, but now refrain from doing so. Where do you think this pacifist teaching came from according to his work? Conclusions Based on what you have read and what Pins theory states in his blog post, you can imagine where I would have a problem not just biblically, but also historically as well. So in short, I wish that for Mr. Valentine to examine much more closer to Church History within the Apostlic Age to the Ante-Nicene
period at least in order to see if he
can defend his claims about Christians in general not being so different from those who adhere to Islam.
Sources and Citations
(Bold/Brackets are mine)
1. (The Man Who Pulled the
Trigger." Christian Reflection. N.p., n.d. Web. 17 June 2016.) 2. (Schaff, Philip, and David S. Schaff. History of the Christian Church. Vol. 2. New York: C.
Scribner's, 1907. Print. 97 The
Church and Slavery.) 3. (Divine Institutes, Book V, Chapter 15.) 4. (1 Clement 55) 5. (Apostolic Constitutions 9) 6. (Ignatius Epistle to the Ephesians, Chapter 13) 7. (Apostolic Tradition of Hippolytus 16:9)