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Last month I established a position in Sodastream because it reminds me a great deal of Deckers, one of my most successful investments last year, for a variety of reasons: 1) 2) 3) 4) 5) 6) A beaten-down stock with a high short interest; A product that short sellers think is a fad but my survey leads me to conclude it isnt; Fixable problems; An enormous, global market; A position of market leadership; Attractive economic characteristics: strong long-term growth, high margins, low capital intensity, and a strong balance sheet; 7) A moat around the business to ensure that the companys market leadership and attractive economic characteristics endure; and 8) A reasonable valuation. Lets look at each of these more carefully, as they apply to Sodastream: 1) A beaten-down stock with a high short interest. Sodastreams stock has fallen to under $40, barely half the peak it reached last June above $77, yet 45% of the float is currently sold short. I think short sellers are the smartest investors in the market they have to be to survive! so, in general, its a terrible idea to go long a heavily shorted stock. However, on rare occasions when Ive developed a high degree of conviction that the shorts are wrong and bought such a stock, such as Netflix and General Growth Properties, its resulted in some of the biggest winners in my 15+ years of running a hedge fund. 2) A product that short sellers think is a fad but my survey leads me to conclude it isnt. A key pillar of the short thesis on Sodastream is that its product is a fad and that the companys recent problems show that the fad is ending and demand will soon collapse. Shorts had a similar thesis on Deckers a year ago, so to shed light on this question I created a survey about Uggs and emailed it to thousands of people on my various email lists. My analysis of the 267 responses led me to the firm conclusion that women loved their Uggs and would keep buying them, which, more than anything else, was the key to my decision to buy Deckers stock. Similarly, I recently did a Sodastream survey and my analysis of the 393 responses led me to conclude that its not a fad (in fact, people love their Sodastreams), which was a critical element in my decision to buy the stock last month. (I discuss the survey in greater depth below.) I think one of the mistakes shorts are making is that, perhaps subconsciously, theyre basing their analysis of Sodastream on the companys nascent business in the U.S. This is understandable given that most of the shorts are, I assume, American, but its a serious mistake because, as I discuss below, Western Europe is by far the most valuable part of Sodastreams business. 3) Fixable problems. In its Q4 13 earnings release, Sodastream attributed its 67% decline in operating income to a drop in gross margins, attributable to: lower average sell-in
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prices due largely to year end discounting and promotions, higher costs as the result of moving product between markets and channels combined with an increase in bundled promotional packs, a shift in product mix versus plan including lower CO2 refills and unfavorable changes in foreign currency exchange rates. Its a tough judgment call to determine if these are truly short-term, fixable problems, or are indicative of more permanent, fundamental ones, but I think its mostly the former. Importantly, demand for the product was robust, as Sodastreams revenues jumped 26.4%, in line with the 29.0% gain for the year. (The companys guidance for full year 2014 is for revenue to increase 15%, EBITDA to increase 25% (excluding changes in foreign currency exchange rates), and net income to increase 3%.) 4) An enormous, global market. This page from Sodastreams investor presentation shows the size of the market and Sodastreams tiny share of it:
5) A position of market leadership. Sodastream dominates its market. It was founded in 1903 and introduced the worlds first home soda maker in 1955. Since then, it has grown to 41 countries, more than 60,000 retail and CO2 refill outlets, and an installed base of more than seven million units (it sold 4.4 million in 2013 alone).
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6) Attractive economic characteristics: strong long-term growth, high margins, low capital intensity, and a strong balance sheet. This chart shows the companys revenue each quarter over the past five years:
Source: Sodastream presentation, 1/14/14; note that Q4 13 revenue was actually $168 million.
Even including the weak Q4, Sodastreams gross and net margins in 2013 were a healthy 50.7% and 7.5%, respectively. Cap ex was $40 million, a modest amount relative to sales and operating income of $563 million and $49 million, respectively and will likely be lower in future years, as the last two years were inflated by significant capacity/ manufacturing expansions. Lastly, Sodastream has a healthy balance sheet, with $41 million of cash, $15 million of short-term debt, and no long-term debt whatsoever. 7) A moat around the business to ensure that the companys market leadership and attractive economic characteristics endure. As evidence of Sodastreams moat, look no further than the recent Green Mountain-Coke partnership: the best these two much larger companies could come up with is a vague announcement of a competing product, Keurig Cold, that wont be ready for another year or two (Ill take the over) classic vaporware in my opinion. The key concern for me isnt the possible emergence of direct competitive threats, but rather that Sodastream has already penetrated most of the home carbonation market and thus revenue growth will continue to decline (it averaged 46% annually in 2010-12, but dropped to 29% last year and is only projected to grow 15% this year). If so, Sodastream would become a slow-growth cash cow, in which case the stock probably doesnt have much downside from todays depressed level, but certainly wouldnt be the double or more that Im hoping for.
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8) A reasonable valuation. Today, based on 2013 numbers, Sodastream is trading at 1.4x sales, 12.5x EBITDA, 16.3x EBIT and 20.1x earnings per share. These arent cheap multiples, but if you believe, as I do, that Sodastreams Q4 problems will prove to be short-lived and that the company will return to its historical high growth and profitability, then the stock is a good bet to double in the next year or two. In addition, Sodastream would be a highly attractive, bite-sized acquisition candidate for Pepsi, Dr. Pepper Snapple, or perhaps even a giant like Nestle (Sodastreams market cap today is less than $850 million). Lastly, Sodastreams consolidated numbers mask two distinct businesses, each of which, one could reasonably argue, is worth nearly the entire share price today: A. Sodastreams Western European Business In 2012, Sodastreams Western European business generated revenues of $204 million, grew 33.4% over the prior year, and generated $49.2 million in pre-tax income, a 24.1% margin (prior to allocation of corporate overhead). The rest of the world, in contrast, had revenues of $232 million, representing 70.9% growth over the prior year, and generated $24.9 million in pre-tax income, a 10.3% margin. Thus, Western Europe accounted for 47% of Sodastreams sales, yet generated 67% of the companys pre-tax profits (before overhead). In 2013, sales in Western Europe were $269 million, a 31% year-over-year increase, while sales in the rest of the world were $294 million, up 27% (note that Western Europe actually grew faster than the rest of the world, which is strong evidence of the quality of Sodastreams Western European franchise as well as the fact that the region is mix of mature markets and those that are still fairly early in the growth curve). While we dont know profitability by region for 2013 yet since Sodastreams annual report isnt out, one can make some educated guesses. Given that Sodastream cited problems in the U.S. and Japan for its Q4 earnings woes, I am assuming that Western Europes pre-tax profit margin stayed constant at 24% during the year, resulting in $64.6 million in pre-tax income. This would imply a 5.1% pre-tax margin in the rest of the world (down from 10.3% in 2012), which sounds about right. If we assume that corporate overhead grew 10% in 2013, from $28.5 million to $31 million, and allocate the overhead proportional to revenues, then Western Europes pre-tax profit after overhead was $50 million. With a 10% tax rate (what Sodastream paid in 2013), thats $45 million in net income or $2.10 in earnings per share. Looking forward to this year, if we assume that Western European revenue grows by only 15% (half its 2013 rate), thats $309 million. Holding margin constant at 24% again, that translates into $74 million pre-tax. If corporate overhead grows 10% again to $34 million and half is allocated to Western Europe, then thats $57 million in pre-tax profit. Apply the 12% tax rate the company has guided to and assume a constant 21.4 million shares, then thats $2.34 in 2014 earnings per share, just from Western Europe. (This is consistent with the $2.30 estimate of one analyst, Jim Chartier at Monness.)
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What is a business with an 18% pre-tax margin and 15% (or even 10%) top-line growth worth? I think its hard to say thats worth less than 15x, which makes Western Europe worth about $35 in my book (a 12x-18x range results in $28 - $42). In short, I think Sodastreams Western European business a fabulous high-margin, strong growth franchise is, by itself, worth nearly Sodastreams entire market cap today, which means that investors are paying almost nothing for the U.S. emerging business, renewed opportunity in Japan, plus further growth in Mexico, China, India, Brazil and elsewhere. B. Sodastreams CO2 Refill Business One of the reasons I publicly disclose many of my stock ideas is that I hear interesting information and perspectives that I wouldnt otherwise. I cant think of a better example than this email, which a young analyst sent me (shared with permission, under the condition that I kept him and his firm anonymous). I think its a brilliant piece of analysis of Sodastreams CO2 refill business, which he argues persuasively could be worth the companys entire market cap today:
Sodastream is not a typical investment for our firm, as we typically avoid investing behind products that could be a fad. However, we recently looked at Sodastream as it was pulling back because a few of us already owned and were loyal users of the product. We also like the barriersto-entry in their CO2 distribution network that we thought would be very difficult to replace. We also happen to believe that Sodastreams US household penetration will hit a positive inflection point as awareness increases, as the category normalizes in consumers minds and as they ultimately roll out into the supermarket channel later this year. Our primary debate was over our margin-of-safety if in fact consumer demand were to slow. To get comfortable, we ultimately stripped the business down to the CO2 business and asked ourselves what we were paying for the population of active users and the profits generated by their CO2 refills. The company sold 5.4 million refills last quarter, which until a 7% sequential drop in Q4, had grown each quarter on a y/o/y basis for the last five years. We figured that a refill purchaser (or active user) is someone who clearly likes the product and has taken the trouble to unscrew the CO2, find a replacement retailer and make the exchange. We assumed that this user would have a much lower churn rate than the population of consumers who purchase a Sodamaker starter kit (or receive one as a gift) and that the required marketing spend to maintain an active user would be lower than for acquiring a new one. This led to the following math on the CO2 exchange business: 21.5 million exchanges per year (annualizing Q4) * $7.00 per exchange (net to Sodastream) = ~$160 million of revenue. Assuming ~85% gross margins and a 12% tax rate, we get to fullytaxed gross profit of ~$112 million. With an enterprise value of ~$800 million, one could argue that Sodastream is trading for ~7x the fully-taxed profit stream from its growing active user CO2 exchange business. The next question is: how much spending is needed to fund the G&A of this CO2 business, and how much sales and marketing is needed to keep the active user base stable and growing? The thought being that at 7x earnings, or a 14% earnings yield, even modest growth of this user population would represent a compelling value (we are talking about a downside scenario here). Taking a look at the existing Sodamaker and Flavors divisions, these businesses in 2013 kicked off approximately $170 million of gross profit. Since the whole business had $50 million of G&A, this means that the Sodamaker and Flavors gross profit could pay for all of the companys
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G&A and still leave $120 million extra to be used as sales & marketing spend to grow your active-user-base CO2 profit stream. Now in 2013, the company spent $186 million on sales & marketing and this investment produced 29% total company revenue growth. So how much growth would $120 million get you? 5-15%? That would be more than enough if you looked at the active-user-CO2 profits of $112 million as a growing annuity. In other words, while Sodastream may not look that cheap today on newly-lowered GAAP EPS, it looks very cheap if you ask yourself how much you are paying for the fully-taxed earnings of the active user CO2 exchange business. This seems like a more substantive business because we already know these users like the product, and because CO2 exchange has very high barriers to entry. So the bears could be right that this company never gets very big (we disagreebut just for arguments sake), and the reply to the bears is so whatthen we are getting a bargain on a profitable, growing niche business with higher barriers to entry. Note that Sodastream has grown its total Sodamaker sales each year and this year sold 4.4 million new ones. If half of these purchasers become active users, that should be more than enough to offset any churn of the active user base. In fact, Sodamaker sales could decline to 2-3 million and the active user population could continue to grow nicely. As a cross-check to the value we see in the business, we said suppose Sodastream were a private business and we owned all the shares and we decided we did not need to grow 29% but would be satisfied with a lower growth rate (againwe are talking downside scenarios here). With 21.4 million shares outstandingevery 10% reduction in sales & marketing translates to $0.87 of operating profit per share, or about $0.70 of EPS. Suppose we believed that we could cut sales and marketing by 40% to $112 million and still grow the business by ~10% per year, our fullytaxed EPS after subtracting share-based comp would be about $4.70 per share, rather than the current profits of around $2.00, implying a multiple of 8.4x EPS. Would you pay 8.4x earnings for a profitable business with barriers to entry growing by 10%? Again, we want them to keep investing in sales & marketing to capitalize on their first-mover advantage as much as possiblewe are in this because we think it will be a much bigger company in a few yearshowever, I doubt that many value investors are thinking about the downside scenario in the way we are, and I thought I would pass it along because it helped us get over the hurdle on this one (despite the fact that we are not sure the stock has bottomed yet, but we are looking a few years out). PSI am going to the IHA trade show in Chicago on the 18th. Senior management will be there, along with new KitchenAid soda maker and three new lines of Samsung refrigerators powered by SodaStream, which will launch in Korea, Australia and 12 European countries this year (some quick math suggests that every 500,000 of those Samsungs that get placed globally could be worth $25 cents per share of EPS to Sodastream in a few years assuming two refills per year something to keep an eye on.
Survey Results Lastly, I want to review the results of the survey, which is attached (click here to see the survey as it appeared online). Before doing so, however, I want to be clear that, while I had a friend who is in the survey business review it, it is highly unscientific. Among other issues, the sample size is very small and the respondents are not representative of the U.S. population. But after reading the hundreds of comments and the consistent answers to the key questions, I believe that the major findings of the survey are likely valid.
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For an in-depth analysis of the survey results, Im going to turn to another friend, who sent me the following comments:
I think the sample set is probably broadly representative of usage. I think the only skew when it comes to usage is that my gut tells me (and this survey with this sample set confirms) that sparkling water/seltzer users churn off their machines far less than people who buy it to make soda. I think your white and wealthy group may have a higher percentage of sparkling water drinkers than the general population as a whole. First, it is well-documented that richer people have been more proactive in making healthy lifestyle adjustments (lower rates of smoking, obesity, and junk food consumption - including soda). Second, Jews have a heritage of drinking seltzer and making it at home (we used to have some old-fashioned contraption when I was a kid). I am guessing your database is more than 2% Jewish. Third, people who travel or eat out in nice places are more apt to be sparkling water drinkers - it's more popular in Europe and all the nicer restaurants in NYC and similar US urban cities try to upsell you to Pellegrino. So there could be a bias to seltzer versus soda users in your sample set, which would benefit usage. But I still think it is directionally accurate. By the way, it is quite reassuring that the West Bank thing didn't come up more in the survey since you were polling a more educated/informed group than the general population. I am not as informed on Israeli politics as maybe I should be, but my sense from the Sodastream Investor Day and reading some non-financial articles is that Sodastream pays competitively and treats people well in their factory, and regularly promotes non-Jews in the factory. You can argue whose land it is, but if they are being an ethical employer and paying well in an area that suffers from poverty and unemployment, I don't see what the problem is. But it's always been noise in the background for the stock. What's fascinating here is that the main short thesis - it's a fad and people who use it stop using it - is fairly debunked by this. There are of course other issues that come up, but the main objection I hear to the company is not validated by these results. Positives People who get machines largely keep using them the bear thesis that they end up collecting dust after a few months does not hold with these results o 67% of respondents who had a machine said they use it the same or more versus one year ago o 55% of respondents with a machine are what I would call hardcore users they use it daily or every other day and another 18% use it at least weekly o People who are heavy seltzer drinkers seem very wedded to and unlikely to quit for any reason this is not surprising given the persistence and durability of results that the company has shown in European markets where they have a longtime presence (Europe is more of a sparkling water market than the US) o There wasnt a ton of talk about the novelty wearing off in the comments and was only the primary reason for 20% of those who quit using their machine, although it was a primary factor for 42% of people who responded using the machine less year over year, but since they are only 1/3 of owners, its only 14% of people who own it but start using it less because of loss of novelty Decent understanding among respondents of the products value proposition: high cost savings on the sparkling water side, convenience, health, environmental greenness Better brand recognition than I would have expected as well (84% aided awareness, at least in this sample set)
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Seasoned user base responding 73% of the people who said they used it have had their machine >1 year Decent response on would you recommend: 56% very likely, 25% somewhat likely Fair amount of openness to getting one among non-owners: 9% will definitely or probably get one, 22% maybe will get one Sounds like multiple users within the household Very little mention of the political issues surrounding their West Bank manufacturing facilities
Negatives Lots of talk about a secular move away from drinking soda for health reasons. This is welldocumented and an issue for Coke and Pepsi perhaps more than Sodastream, given its small market share. I also think the fact that this survey skews wealthy makes it overstate how quickly people are abandoning soda as a category. Bad feedback on Sodastreams cola flavor not a surprise Lack of awareness of the availability of tasty non-cola flavors (in my opinion and that of others they clone Dr. Pepper, root beer, ginger ale much better than they mimic Coke or Pepsi) Not too much pushback on machine price, but there was some pushback on CO2 price CO2 exchange needs to be more convenient Kitchen counter is already crowded and this is a headwindironically, a Sodastream should have particular appeal to urban apartment dwellers (no garage, basement or excess space for storing bottles), but these are the same people who have limited real estate on the kitchen counter The kitchen counter being crowded is going to be a problem for Keurig Cold too, unless they manage to come out with a Keurig Hot & Cold machine, which I imagine they are working on but it sounds like that is an event for way beyond 2015 and would come with a price tag well over $200 Opportunities Many people cited inconvenience of exchanging CO2 as the primary drawback if they can crack the grocery or drug channels, this will get solved. There may be a survey bias here because Walmart and Target have CO2 exchange and are frequently visited destinations. In NYC, your options are more limited Bed Bath & Beyond, Staples, Best Buy none of which are particularly convenient There is definitely an issue with flavor acceptance, especially in cola. More branded deals (like Kool Aid, Welchs, CountryTime, etc.) would help this as would better marketing around their non-cola flavors (which I think are more competitive). Also, with the number of people citing health concerns about sugar and artificial sweetener consumption, the long talked about but yet to emerge stevia-sweetened product would be good to see Demand for dishwasher safe bottles and nicer looking bottles seems to be there, they are coming out with products filling these needs, so if they get distribution there should be a decent market for them All the marketing is around making soda sparkling water is a niche in the US versus its broad consumption in Europe but there may need to be more marketing/parallel marketing efforts to reach people who are seltzer-only drinkers because these people are most loyal and use a ton of CO2. I think the challenge for this company is they have multiple benefits that might appeal in different ways to different consumers, and it is hard to communicate too many benefits without confusing people. Benefits = cost savings, environmental
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sustainability, convenience (less lugging and storing), customization either for taste preferences or to make healthier (you can use less syrup with your kids to limit sugar intake while they still get soda), health (no high fructose corn syrup in their flavors) What the Survey Says about the Green Mountain/Coke Threat (or Non-Threat) The kitchen counter being crowded is going to be a problem for Keurig Cold too, unless they manage to come out with a Keurig Hot & Cold machine, which I imagine they are working on but it sounds like that is an event for way beyond 2015 and would come with a price tag well over $200 It strikes me that at this moment in time, Sodastream is primarily a sparkling water company, not a soda company (despite what its name would imply), because we have established that right now they make all their money in Western Europe, which is primarily sparkling water, and they break even in the rest of the world. (We know users outside Western Europe consume more flavors per installed machine, so the rest of the world is more of a soda market although, per your survey, the most loyal US users were primarily sparkling water drinkers) Since almost all European and a decent chunk of US users are using their Sodastreams to make sparkling water, this is not a market in which Keurig Cold is likely to be competitive. Even if the machines were to be comparably priced (which they most likely will not be Keurig Cold is expected to be much more expensive), it would be completely ridiculous to make seltzer with Keurig Cold as there would be no flavor to put in the flavor pods and it will be about 7-9 times more expensive per serving to carbonate with a pod (assuming a 50-60cent retail pod price vs. only 7 cents to carbonate 12 oz. of water with a Sodastream)
Conclusion Like Deckers a year ago, I think the investment thesis on Sodastream at todays price boils down to a simple question: is this is a fad? I was right that Uggs werent and the stock doubled. My survey of SodaStream users convinced me the Sodastream isnt either. People love them and tend to use them frequently. I think there are two big ways to win a resumption of high growth and margins, or the company being acquired and I think the downside is well protected by two fabulous embedded franchises: Western Europe and the CO2 refill business.
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This is a REALLY important quesion, so please feel free to add a comment: I often start a new bottle if the old on has been opened more than onc e as the c arbination effec t dec reases rather quic kly. This is my wife's usage pattern (she has 2 of these mac hines). She was using both frequently for seltzer, as she had kic ked her c affeine addic tion for a while. Rec ently however she's been drinking ic ed green tea instead sinc e she's bac k on c affeine. The sodastream seltzer is great, but she prefers the taste of off-the-shelf c affeinated beverages. I expec t her usage will go in waves inversely c orrelated with her c affeine dependenc e. I just got mine, and use it c onstantly for seltzer water. The Flavors are terrible and a waste of time.
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Mostly I just sort of forget about its existenc e. It stands in not the most obvious plac e and sometimes just get in the habit of drinking something else. I have heard other people say that it loses some novelty. we loved our sodastream penguin, but then tried to return a c artridge and order a new one. they never showed up or c ontac ted us, and to be fair i gave up trying to c onnec t with them. out of c artridges, it bec ame an artifac t. I have to make a c onsc ious effort to trade the CO2 c artridge, and I find I haven't made that effort in a few weeks. Probably a little bit seasonal -- I bought it in the summer (to make mojitos), used it a bunc h. During winter, I haven't used it muc h sinc e we are drinking hot drinks, but I will use it more during the summer again (but probably not as muc h as last summer). The novelty has worn off a little and the unit is somewhat bulky to have around in a c ramped urban kitc hen. Just a c hange in my sc hedule. I'm at home less now than I used to be, so I'm not using my sodastream as muc h. I used to make soda water with dinner most nights, but now that I moved bac k to NYC I don't c ook dinner nearly as often. Our usage is the same exc ept for when we run out of the c artridge. It c an sometimes take some time to get around to returning the empty c artridge and buying or ordering another.. Sodastream is great. We only use it for seltzer. It lessens our c onsumption of plastic . We are using it the same amount, but sinc e they no longer pic k up and replac e the CO2 c artridge, we haven't found an alternative that is the same pric e or as c onvenient. Still use it c lose to the same amount, but just rec ently c ut bac k slightly It is my 10 & 13 yr old daughters (9 & 12 when they rec eived it for Christmas) and they used it very muc h for a few weeks, then oc c asionally and only rarely. I'm not sure exac tly why the falloff oc c urred. Do not own. We just don't think about using it like we used to. I found out that Sodastream had HQ in an Israeli settlement and wasn't c omfortable supporting the c ompany anymore. Got it bec ause my wife was hooked on seltzer, bought lots of bottles of raspberry flavored from supermarket. So I thought it was worth a try to get a home unit and avoid c arrying all those bottles from the market. But she tried it a c ouple times and stopped. Not fizzy enough, too muc h of a hassle, the pressurization and CO2 c artridges freaked her out a bit, just easier to buy the bottles. We use our soda stream exc lusively for seltzer. We use it when we want seltzer - so no real sc ienc e to how often we use it. Probably more in the summer and less in the winter. Probably used it more for the novelty when we first got it -- but as I said we really use it when we want bubbly water. We just got it for Christmas, and only my husband has used it so far, but he really likes it. It never really worked - didn't replic ate seltzer water whic h is why we bought it. THE MODEL i HAVE DOESN'T RELEASE THE BOTTLE VERY EASILY ONCE IT IS "FIZZED." THIS MAKE IT A HASSLE We have given this task to our lazy c hildren as a c hore and they don't do it. Good thing we don't have a dog they're supposed to feed. Flavors that Sodastream gives you are really bad Ones I add I get a little tired of after a while We don't have c ounter spac e, so we have to keep it in a c upboard I think the soda has aspartame, it gives headac hes and is ac tually less healthy than regular sugar. Bec ause of the headac hes, we just use it for sparkling water. I like the produc t but from a pure c onvenienc e/value standpoint it's tough to beat Costc o's 24-pac k of Coke c ans for <$10 The mac hine is slightly taller than my kitc hen c abinets so it c an't sit under them like my Keurig. It gets put into the applianc e graveyard. Also didn't really like the flavors. nic e for large gatherings, Taste plain or with flavors is unsatisfac tory. May be due to well water in this area.
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Taste plain or with flavors is unsatisfac tory. May be due to well water in this area.
I'm not entirely sure why. Just lost interest over time. I see it there and think about it but often don't bother. I love the glass bottles on my mac hine, but my mac hine looks like a penguin and is not as easy to operate as the new beautifully designed mac hines. I want the new beautifully designed mac hine to be able to use glass bottles (they seem more sanitary, and I c an wash them in the dishwasher). We use it in the summertime and when we have guests to dinner. We're entertaining less, so there you go. We prefer the c ommerc ial soft drinks My wife ac tually uses it and I asked her this question. She just seems to 'forget' to make it. She says she goes through waves of usage. I'll be interested in seeing what results out of this. I've been looking at it as a short myself for a year now, but the fac t that it's an Israeli c ompany had me a little apprehensive about how hard it would be to objec tively unc over any growth fraud. Cuisinart is also c oming out with their own models and flavors, though apparently lic ensing Sodastream tec hnology. They were doing live demos at Mac y's in Chic ago in Oc tober. I feel like it is inc onvenient, that the c annisters don't last long, and that the produc t onc e produc ed is worse tasting than bottled seltzer. It is a hassle to hand wash the bottles--c an't understand why they c an't figure out a way to make them dishwasher safe!
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Q8 If a friend asked you, how likely would you be to recommend that they get a Sodastream?
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Comments: Grape fruit juic e spritzers! Living in NYC and being a big seltzer drinker, this makes it very easy to not have to c arry lots of bottles of seltzer home. roommate uses it with lemon juic e (her own flavor), and visitors often use it for seltzer The amount of soda water we make varies on the weather. We make muc h more during the warmer weather and for the holidays.
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Comments/other: Healthier than normal soda. don't use it bec ause of the flavors, but would not use it if I hadn't found flavors that I like Saves energy, as I don't have to c arry water from the store. Easier than buying / c arrying bottles all the time. I threw out all the free flavored syrups, for health reasons. I enjoy drinking c arbonated water -- either on its own, or to mix with orange juic e. I also use it to make mixed drinks. Don't have to haul bottles from the groc ery store to the c ar, from the c ar to the house, from the house to the alley on rec yc ling days. I drank several bottles of seltzer daily. That's a lot of weight to c arry home from the store and a lot of trash to rec yc le. We drink more seltzer than water. Why would we buy it? We save on the c ost of the seltzer and aren't adding anything to the rec yc ling system, and don't require shipping bottles of c arbonized water around the c ountry. It's fun for my kids. n/a I entertain a lot. It is wonderful to have seltzer on hand if requested. Makes me feel like an amazing hostess. stronger seltzer than c an usually buy - a sec ondary reason no need to c arry heavy bottles - a sec ondary reason Another reason: to stay hydrated and healthy (Sodastream replac es soda for me) We used to buy Pellgrino by the c ase -- and this is c heaper and takes up muc h less spac e. Don't have all those c ans to deal with See above c omments Soda c ans and bottles are the bulkiest and heaviest things you buy at the groc ery store. So muc h easier not to have to sc hlep those home from the store, put them away, dispose of the empties etc . Plus, If I want different flavor, I c an have it right away instead of having to go to the store. We bought the soda stream so that we would no longer have to buy bottles and c ans of seltzer - so the environmental impac t was the primary reason. Fun for the kids Avoid sc hlepping c ases of plastic bottles that get thrown away. Main appeal is being a healthier c hoic e than traditional soda. Less soda, less sugar. No brainer - save the environment, save $ and c an re-fizz flat bottles. Took me awhile to buy it just due to lac k of time - onc e I did, I was hooked. It's fun. Sinc e buying it, it has c ompletely replac ed my c onsumption of branded/c anned/bottled soda, and it has partially replac ed my c onsumption of plain water with bubbly water
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Q12 How long ago did you first start using a Sodastream?
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Q13 Did you purchase it, did someone else in your family purchase it, or was it a gift?
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Answ er Choices Pric ed too high for what you get? A bargain for what you get? Pric ed about right for what you get? Total
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Additional comments on pricing: It was a gift from my fianc e, so I don't know the pric e. I got a good deal at Mac y's around $70 on xmas eve I would have hoped that there would be a greater pric e differenc e between FreshDirec t and SodaStream. depends on what style you get and how often you use it. But i never spent money on seltzer before ( didn't really drink it) Hard to tell bec ause I haven't done the math on how muc h the c annister refills save vs. buying c arbonated water at the store. I got ours during post-c hristmas sale at bed bath & beyond, and got an additional 20% off with a c oupon, whic h I think brought the final pric e to $80. Sinc e my husband still ac tually prefers the taste of other c arbonated waters, I probably would not have bought it at full retail c ost. Costs of replac ement c o2 are exhorbitant. Totally unaware of pric ing. c o2 refills should be c heaper don't know the pric e as it was a gift I have about as basic of a model as you c an get - it's been worth it, but it's hard to believe the tec hnology and bottles are worth what I paid It's poorly built But c artridges are too expensive
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Q15 A final open-ended question: please tell me what you like and don't like about your Sodastream?
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Responses Expensive c arbonation c artridges. It is my favorite home applianc e! I tell everyone they should get one. I even bring it with me on (loc al) vac ations. I used to have the c anisters delivered to my home, but now I have to pic k them up at a loc al store, whic h is less c onvenient. We don't drink muc h soda, or have spac e to keep it out. So we don't use it muc h. The seltzer is very good. The flavors for traditional soft drinks don't measure up to tried-and-true brands. Their flavors may be more c ompetitive in nic he flavors like c ranberry whic h I haven't yet tried. I love the c onvenienc e and the seltzer is great. i have an older model - and the design is not great - need to use both hands to sc rew and unsc rew the bottle in. Love, love, love that i don't need to buy drinks - c an just make them myself I have the penguin model whic h has glass bottles whic h is what I wanted --- however, the bottles are too small -- 750 mil vs. quart. would prefer larger bottles. I love seltzer water, and dislike the idea of buying water that has been shipped from Italy. With a Brita filter this works perfec tly. It saves money and energy, but most of all it makes sure that i never run out. I have no interest in making soda, and even though I have never tried making soda with my SS, I am c onvinc ed that it would be of poor taste. I'm registering for a Sodastream through my wedding registry. I even registered for a slightly nic er version than I would have gotten if I were spending my own money, Convenient, easy to use, no c leanup, lightweight, easy to store. Pac kets of flavoring are way too sweet. I don't like that Sodastream's main produc tion takes plac e on land c onfisc ated by Israel from the West Bank. While I would be interested in the produc e otherwise, I would not feel c omfortable supporting the produc t. bottle is too small, have to refill it. Don't love the plastic though I see that higher end stores suc h as grac ious home sell more attrac tive wood and glass versions but for a lot more $$$. Sodastream equipment itself is flimsy and poorly-made (c heap plastic , piec es don't fit together well). A lot of the flavors use artific ial sweeteners and give me headac hes I think the c annisters don't last as long as they c laim and it c an be annoying to find the time to exc hange them A bit large and takes up a lot of c ounter spac e It was more of a toy at first but then the usage dec reased, and we got too lazy to replac e the h2o c anister. The family did like the taste and the ease of using it. The tops for the soda c ontainers c ould have a better sealer so that the water does not lose it's c arbonation as quic kly. It's loud and awkward to use. Should c ome with extra bottles and it's too tall to store on the c ounter or easily in a c upboard. The mac hine doesn't look like it will hold up... Plastic and flimsy. Like the c onvenienc e. Wish they would sell refills in more plac es. Bottles were dishwasher safe.
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