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perhaps just have a coffee? But the attendant, who doesnt recognise her,
politely shows us the door. Hayek seems quite relaxed its a nice day for a
walk in the park, she says.
I would die if I did nothing but manicures and lunches. That would be a nightmare to
me
Well, yes, except there is a howling wind that means I wont be able to
record our conversation, and its too chilly to sit outdoors, so I duck back
into the restaurant, find the manager, and explain that Hayek is
a huge movie star. He looks past me, out of the window, and sees her just as
she tips her perfect profile upwards to the early spring sunshine like a
leading lady finding her spotlight. Immediately he ushers us to a table by
the leaded windows overlooking the park. On International Womens Day,
Hayek will present the UK premiere of The Prophet as part of Southbank
Centres Women of the World festival. Hayek sees the message of the book
as particularly important to women, because it is about the courage to
speak up, to believe you are worth being listened to, she says. Gibrans
classic has sold over 100m copies worldwide, in 50 languages, since it was
first published in 1923. And yet it has never had publicity. Its been read by
generation after generation without ever really having fame. Its not a
religious book, its poetic and philosophical. Its a book written by an Arabic
man, which unites all religions. That itself I think is important.
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A scene from The Prophet, Salma Hayeks adaptation of the prose poetry book by Kahlil
Gibran. Photograph: PR
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Aged 48, she has five films scheduled for release in 2015. She is still
gorgeous, with an insanely voluptuous body on a tiny frame, less than 5ft
2in tall, with delicate little wrists and hands. Her face is cartoonlike in its
perfectly symmetrical beauty. Her accent varies, sometimes a patrician,
Euro-veneer she is based in London, where her daughter is at school, but
the family spend a lot of time at their country house just outside Paris and
then dipping into a sing-song, Jenny-from-the-block Latina accent that she
puts on for effect when throwing off one of her saltier asides. Today she is
wearing a navy Gucci coat with a Bottega Veneta scarf, over an Alexander
McQueen fitted sweater and white shirt, and pin-striped trousers. And the
most important thing, the thing you dont see, she says, dropping her voice
half an octave and raising an eyebrow half an inch: Stella McCartney
undergarments. So beautiful, so comfortable, so well made. This is
important, no? But I cant believe we are talking about undergarments! I
wont tell you the colour at least!
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Two years ago, Hayek co-foundedChime for Change, in aid of womens and
childrens health and education worldwide. Current projects include
building schools for Syrian refugees in Turkey and Lebanon, and
fundraising support for a female inventor who has come up with a cheap-toproduce incubator for under-resourced maternity wards in the developing
world. She describes herself as an activist for women, but there was an odd
episode last year when she said she wasnt a feminist because if it was men
who were oppressed she would fight for them instead, or something. I want
to give her the benefit of the doubt, and hope she meant well. So I ask,
What does feminism mean to you?
I am a feminist because I love women and I am ready to fight for women. I
am a feminist because I am proud to be a woman, and I am passionate
about making the world a better place for women. I am a feminist because a
lot of amazing women have made me the woman I am today. I am inspired
by women every day, as friends and as colleagues.
But it should not be just because I am a woman, she carries on. How do
you say, when the doctor, he does this? She dramatically chops at her leg,
just below the knee. Um, amputation? I suggest. No! No, he hit your
knee and this time I realise she is miming a doctors rubber hammer
Yes! A reflex. It should be a reflex, if someone else is being hurt, to help. It
shouldnt have to be because you are being a victim too. I work a lot for
domestic violence, and people often ask me if I have experienced it. And I
say, no, on the contrary my father is a great man, my husband is a great
man. But we are all human beings, no?
There were times as a young actor, Hayek says, where she would take any
job, take any commercial, to pay the rent. Now, she says: I still pay the
same bills I always paid, and I understand I have to hit a certain mark with
what money I make, to pay them. Really, I ask, a bit sceptically? Hayeks
husband is one of the richest men in France. Yes. Absolutely. If you took
my bills away from me, that would feel strange. I think it is part of what
gives me confidence, to work, to know I can pay them. I would die if I did
nothing but manicures and lunches. That would be a nightmare to me. It
was a condition when I married Francois. I said: Listen, dont think I am
going to be a society lady, OK? And he said, Of course I would hate
that!
Her nails, for what its worth, are painted deep red, but chipped at the tips,
and you can see the pale half-moons where the colour has been growing out
for at least a week. Hayek wasnt really interested in fashion before she
met her husband. But I have learned to really admire all the hard work that
goes into it. She says her favourite designers vary according to the season,
the look, my weight at the time.
The amount of pressure on women now, its crazy. We need to give ourselves a break
As we are gathering our things, she says, Oh, but we didnt talk about my
other films! And then she rattles through them, lightning speed. Theres
Everly, a gangster-thriller which we dont want to talk about. Its not what I
thought it would be. I want it to go away, that one. (I look it up: the
publicity shot features a topless Hayek holding a machine gun.) There is
Septembers of Shiraz, set in Iran in 1979, in which she stars opposite Adrian
Brody. I play an Iranian Jewish woman I do the accent really well and
its about how women get everyone through, in that situation. She played a
queen in Tale of Tales, a fairytale trilogy by Italian director Matteo Garrone,
and starred opposite Pierce Brosnan in the rom-com How To Make Love
Like An Englishman. Twenty years after her Hollywood breakthrough,
playing opposite Antonio Banderas in Desperado a role she followed with
a table-dancing vampire queen in From Dusk Till Dawn she is still in the
game. And they said I wouldnt be working after 35! Ha.
On seeing us getting ready to leave, the cloakroom attendant appears and
starts apologising to Hayek for not recognising her earlier. Hayek turns to
her, holds her by both arms, leans right in. Why are you sorry! You did
nothing wrong, do you hear me. You are not obliged to recognise me! You
were doing your job. You are doing a really good job. So stop apologising.
And she turns to me. See! This is what we are up against.
Salma Hayek Pinault will appear at Southbank Centres WOW Women of
the World Festival on Sunday 8 March