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Demirovski (right).
On his Facebook profile Demirovski lists his location as Brussels, Belgium. Rather
than the UK or Luxembourg, this is likely where BeOnPush is being operated out of.
I wasnt able to dig up a concrete MLM history for Demirovski, but according to his
LinkedIn profile hes been a Macedonian political adviser, runs his own consulting
firm and performed political analysis for the EU.
Demirovski took up his CEO position with BeOnPush in August and is presumably
also the owner of the company.
Read on for a full review of the BeOnPush MLM business opportunity.
Referral Commissions
BeOnPush pay referral commissions on investments made by recruited affiliates,
paid out down two levels of recruitment (unilevel):
Residual Commissions
Investment volume is tracked between both sides of the binary, with BeOnPush
advertising a 10% commission payout on investment volume.
Whether this is on both sides of the binary or just the side with less investment
volume is unclear.
Affiliate Rewards
Based on binary investment volume, BeOnPush offer affiliates the following rewards:
Joining BeOnPush
Affiliate membership with BeOnPush is free, however affiliates must invest between
$20 to $10,000 to participate in the MLM income opportunity.
Conclusion
Beonpush has investment in various sectors of the online marketing and in majority
trading positions in the Real Time Bidding.
The profit that the company earns from these sources and investments; is shared
among the members, paid members will become stakeholders and will receive profit
according to their investment.
or, BeOnPush simply shuffle newly invested funds around to pay existing
investors.
Whatever real time bidding is, I can guarantee you it doesnt consistently return
enough funds to pay out BeOnPushs 150% ROI guarantee, 15% investment referral
commissions or residual binary commissions.
Logically speaking, if Demirovski had stumbled upon a proverbial golden goose
capable of such returns, why then would he need your money?
Thus the only logical explanation as to where the funds BeOnPush pay out are
sourced from is new affiliate investment, making BeOnPush just another Euro taxhaven Ponzi scheme.
As with all Ponzi schemes, once new affiliate investment dries up so too will the
daily ROI BeOnPush promise their affiliates.
An imminent collapse will manifest itself by the daily ROI percentage paid out
dropping and remaining close to 0.5%.
This will likely go on for a while as BeOnPush continue on in the hopes new
investment will pick up.
At some point though Ferki Demirovski or whoever hes working with are going to
pull the plug, rather than pay out the funds they themselves have skimmed off the
top.
Thats when BeOnPush collapses, leaving the majority of investors with a loss.
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drunkman
Sep 18th, 2015 at 10:24 am (Q)
The guy is from Montenegro just this should be enough to stay away.
And the name he use is completly fake. Why on earth whould a politician member of
the european parliament bother making such system? And with the contacts he has
with his job he can get billions from investors and pay them peanuts as interests.
2.
#2
Manuel
Sep 22nd, 2015 at 9:34 pm (Q)
I ended up here doing my research. I have not invested in this page, but your posts
is just an opinion from some random internet user, not from someone that actually
knows about this subject.
So, be more helpful. Hoy do you guarantee your opinion? In what are you based
on? I would really like to know, because reading this has not helped at all.
3.
#3
Oz
Sep 23rd, 2015 at 12:10 am (Q)
Hoy do you guarantee your opinion? In what are you based on?
I dont guarantee anything, but the review itself is based entirely on BeOnPushs
compensation plan (business model).
If you find the marketing BS someone is obviously pushing on to you to be more
comforting, then best of luck to you.
4.
#4
Jerome
Nov 2nd, 2015 at 12:39 am (Q)
First of all, I want to thank the admin of this blog for leting me express myself.
5.
#5
Oz
Nov 2nd, 2015 at 5:56 am (Q)
@Jerome
If BeOnPush was generating external revenue, through RTB or any other vehicle,
they wouldnt need to solicit investments of up to $10,000 from affiliates.
All thats happening here is new affiliate funds are being used to pay off existing
investors.
6.
#6
jerome lakoudi
Nov 2nd, 2015 at 8:31 pm (Q)
Hello Oz or whatever is your name.
i heard few times from your mouth the word i dont know.
Beonpush is not an MLM company. What you do, it is not informing people, we call
this Mude.
(Ozedit: Offtopic derail attempts removed)
Best regards,
Jerome
7.
#7
Oz
Nov 2nd, 2015 at 9:46 pm (Q)
i heard few times from your mouth the word i dont know.
Not my problem chief. Go and educate yourself.
Beonpush is not an MLM company.
2 level comp plan = MLM.
What you do, it is not informing people, we call this Mude.
And youre in denial. Lets call it even and best of luck with the scamming.
8.
#8
jerome lakoudi
Nov 3rd, 2015 at 11:45 pm (Q)
Congratulation you are briliant.
9.
#9
EpicPix
Nov 18th, 2015 at 8:41 am (Q)
Its hilarious to read any comments defending a system such as this one.
Are people so dumb, to believe there is a system to earn 1-2% per day, guaranteed?
Why in gods name would anybody with such a system need some lousy $20 from a
poor soul? Hed be a fucking billionaire in NO TIME.
@Webmaster, youre doing a great job trying to save some of those poor souls of
losing their last few pennies! Keep up your work!
10.
#10
bbcnews
Dec 17th, 2015 at 1:53 am (Q)
What about the news video where you see beopuch on the news on bbc. why do you
say this is fake ??
11.
#11
Oz
Dec 17th, 2015 at 7:50 am (Q)
What about the news video where you see beopuch on the news on bbc. why do you
say this is fake ??
Seeing as youre the first person to bring it up, nobody said a video from the BBC is
fake.
In any event, whether such footage exists has little bearing on the $20 to $10,000
Ponzi scheme behind BeOnPush.
BeOnPushs business model makes it a Ponzi scheme, not whether or not they
featured on the BBC.
12.
#12
bbcnews
Dec 17th, 2015 at 9:11 pm (Q)
Hello,
You say:
13.
#13
Oz
Dec 17th, 2015 at 9:17 pm (Q)
Thats not a BBC video, thats some paid promotional video they doctored up. Has
nothing to do with the BBC.
14.
#14
Wolfgang Kellermann
Dec 18th, 2015 at 7:12 pm (Q)
There are some people in world, for them is every Network ponzi and scam.
Cause they arent able to UNDERSTAND network and MLM..
Sure, there is no guarantee nowhere in the world^^. Sure, there sometimes ARE
scammers (like in real life, too), but there also are some very honest and successful
companies, existing since years.
15.
#15
Oz
Dec 18th, 2015 at 10:03 pm (Q)
^^ A guarantee doesnt make a business opportunity a Ponzi scheme. Using newly
invested funds to pay off existing investors does.
Thats what BeOnPush do. Trying to dismiss the obvious as ignorance is scamming
101.
16.
#16
Manuel
Dec 24th, 2015 at 4:43 am (Q)
HAHAHAHA its hilarious you pretend to be an expert about all this subjects. You
dont even know what RTB? (Ozedit: RTB has nothing to do with BeOnPush using
newly invested funds to pay off existing investors.)
17.
#17
Oz
Dec 24th, 2015 at 5:49 am (Q)
^^ I removed the waffle and insults.
Like every other ad-credit scheme, if third-party advertising was funding the ROIs,
BeOnPush wouldnt be soliciting $20-$10,000 investments from affiliates.
They have to solicit investments, because these are the funds they pay existing
investors with. RTB is just jargon they tote so people like you can run around the
internet defending what is otherwise a blatant Ponzi scheme.
18.
#18
Manuel
Dec 24th, 2015 at 6:04 am (Q)
Then I will post it again (without insults) because I want people to notice, at leat in
this post, that you know NOTHING, but anyways you speak your opinion like it is
FACT; and as I said, I am not defending the company because I am not even
interested in investing with them, but that is your best defense against people that
shows your ignorance.
Its hilarious you pretend to be an expert about all this subjects. You dont even
know what RTB? You are REALLY outdated.
Real time bidding is insanely huge, it is dominating the online advertising market
because how good it is to deliver ads in a more effective and efficient way. You
manage a website and you dont even know how programmatic advertising works?
You really think there are no systems to earn high interests like that? Do you at least
know Forex? I guess not.
And I make clear I am not defending beonpush here (youre preferred answer would
be how [insult removed] I am for investing money in the company).
My point here is that you are a good example of the DunningKruger effect (a
cognitive bias, [insult removed] people cant realize their own [insult removed]) and
one of the main reasons of humanity downfall.
You sir, are the one who needs to be educated:
retargeter.com/blog/general/real-time-bidding-and-programmatic-progress
youtube.com/watch?v=-DiIsrJUsRU
static5.businessinsider.com/image/53c0022e6bb3f7425378d751/the-programmaticadvertising-report-real-time-bidding-is-taking-over-the-digital-ad-market.jpg
19.
#19
Oz
Dec 24th, 2015 at 6:08 am (Q)
Im not doubting RTB exists, or denying what it is.
Im saying its got nothing to do with BeOnPush solicitng $20 to $10,000
investments and using those investment to pay off existing investors.
If RTB was funding BeOnPushs advertised ROIs, they wouldnt need to solicit
investments from affiliates.
RTB to BeOnPush is what penny auctions were to Zeek Rewards, cloud computing
was to WCM777 or VOIP was to TelexFree.
Its a Ponzi scheme, time to face facts.
20.
#20
Xpertrade
Dec 28th, 2015 at 6:57 am (Q)
Always appreciate your review Ozi.
A fact is always a fact. If recruitment is the focus and not product sales, you are
promoting a scam. Enough said.
21.
#21
jerome
Jan 12th, 2016 at 6:08 am (Q)
Dear all, listening OZ is one thing, but not searching for any info and following head
down is another thing.
A scam interesting, please find enclosed an extract of register concerning the
company you making bad publicity about.
I would love to know since when a Scam has a capital to start of 150.000 Dollars
beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/09714406/filing-history
Yes you are right enough is enough, let us work in peace thanks.
22.
#22
K Chang
Jan 12th, 2016 at 8:09 am (Q)
jerome: I would love to know since when a Scam has a capital to start of 150.000
Dollars
If you bothered to read the actual incorp papers, youll realize the company has 1
(yes, ONE) share worth 100000 GBP. In other words, he made up the random
number.
23.
#23
K Chang
Jan 12th, 2016 at 8:15 am (Q)
FWIW, CompaniesHouse.co.uks paper says Demirovskis registered address is in
Trabotiviste, Macedonia. UK reg is indeed virtual.
24.
#24
Oz
Jan 12th, 2016 at 9:00 am (Q)
I would love to know since when a Scam has a capital to start of 150.000 Dollars
When it solicits investment from affiliates on the promise of ROIs paid out of
subsequently recruited funds.
Seriously, clutch at straws much? A UK registration costs 20 pounds and is used by
Indian scammers all the time. It has nothing to do with a fraudulent Ponzi business
model.
25.
#25
jerome
Jan 12th, 2016 at 9:22 am (Q)
Yes GBP 100.000 are 146.000 USD info so this explain the 150.000 USD but that is
not relevant.
26.
#26
Oz
Jan 12th, 2016 at 9:23 am (Q)
What are you talking about, GBP corporate registration is worth less than toilet
paper.
Tons of scammers register there because all you need is a rented PO box and 20
pounds.
Relevance to a $20-$10,000 a pop Ponzi scheme? None.
27.
#27
jerome
Jan 12th, 2016 at 9:39 am (Q)
Corporate registration is less than toilet paper. Waw ok i will leave you last comment
for yourself, and the headquarter of Beonpush opened in Dubai is Dubai also a a
trashi place made for Ponzi?
Get you info Bro. Have a good day
28.
#28
Oz
Jan 12th, 2016 at 9:42 am (Q)
Corporate registration is less than toilet paper.
UK corporate registration.
Take it from someone whos reviewed hundreds of Indian scams registered in the
UK.
And yes, Dubai has little to no Ponzi regulation (see belated EmGoldex warning). Its
the perfect place for foreign national scammers to set up shop.
Speak Asia is another one that comes to mind but there have been many.
Time to throw out the marketing BS and do your own research chief. Welcome to the
real world.
29.
#29
Oz
Jan 12th, 2016 at 9:45 am (Q)
And anyway, again where a company is registered has no bearing on its business
model.
BeOnPush is a Ponzi scheme because it uses newly invested funds to pay off
existing investors. They could be registered on the moon for all the difference itd
make.
30.
#30
jerome
Jan 12th, 2016 at 9:47 am (Q)
Pathetique nothing else to say bye
31.
#31
Oz
Jan 12th, 2016 at 9:48 am (Q)
And that, ladies and gentlemen, is how you back a scammer into a wall.
Best of luck with the scamming jerome.
32.
#32
jerome
33.
#33
Oz
Jan 12th, 2016 at 9:51 am (Q)
and how do you know that beonpush is using newly invested funds to pay off
existing investors show me, explain me.
Read the review. Then read it again.
34.
#34
jerome
Jan 12th, 2016 at 10:03 am (Q)
no i dont need your review anymore (Ozedit: Then sod off and stop wasting my
time.)
35.
#35
jerome
Jan 12th, 2016 at 10:06 am (Q)
i wil get back to you in two years and we will talk in peace. i wish you a good day.
36.
#36
anjali
Jan 12th, 2016 at 10:18 am (Q)
jerome: i wil get back to you in two years and we will talk in peace.
heres betting you wont be back here in two years, because beonpush wont be
around that long.
heres hoping that in two years you will at least be able to pull your head out of your
ass.
37.
#37
K Chang
Jan 12th, 2016 at 10:36 am (Q)
jerome: no i dont need your review anymore
You never did. You just felt like mouthing off due to your Ikea Effect and Sunk Cost
Fallacy, that any information that goes against your confirmation bias must be
challenged, even if you have nothing to challenge it with.
Even now youre probably off telling others that youve defended the scheme
against unbelievers. May want to look up pigeon chess.
38.
#38
Moreno
Jan 14th, 2016 at 2:37 am (Q)
Re: What about the news video where you see beopuch on the news on bbc. why do
you say this is fake ??
by OZ the video is totally fake and my guess the testimonial is an actor too
Here is where you can buy the same video for a few $: fiverr.com/sebski22/record-abreaking-news-video-presentations?
context=advanced_search&context_type=rating&context_referrer=search_gigs&pos
=1&funnel=9f48b2eb-ce1c-4d04-a22f-76d88b1ab432
(if you can get the link just go to fiverr.com and search for breaking news video)
That says much about the honesty of the company
39.
#39
Achiever
Jan 20th, 2016 at 11:31 pm (Q)
Let us just all wait for the Opening of BeOnPush Dubai Office. Dont prejudge just
because it has a binary compensation plan. The fact that it offers 150% ROI simply
implies that the binary system is just a bonus.
Besides, whether you refer people or not, you will get $30 return on the invested
$20 amount.
Do not utter a word that you might just soon regret.. All businesses has risk, scam
or not
Let us start with a cleaner review
Thank you.
40.
#40
Oz
Jan 21st, 2016 at 7:25 am (Q)
Let us just all wait for the Opening of BeOnPush Dubai Office.
Right. Because a new office in Dubai overrides paying newly invested funds to
existing investors.
Dont prejudge just because it has a binary compensation plan. You will get $30
return on the invested $20 amount.
The problem isnt a binary compensation plan, the problem is BeOnPush uses newly
invested funds to pay off existing investors. That makes it a Ponzi scheme.
41.
#41
NPandey
Jan 25th, 2016 at 4:37 am (Q)
ITs on all the info given regarding BEONPUSH is it Scam, and lots of talking on that. I
have read all carefully, iam not into it still now, after reading this i will tell you very
openly that i will start Beonpush.
I know iam intelligent, i make my decission and do learn from all tips and these tips
helps me to find out what really it is.
I have experiences of these kind of words, people who dont believe in themselves
wont make anything. See, study, read and make urself the trust.
Still today i have not seen any groceries selling TRUST or in near future we will get it
to buy it that is for sure.
So do believe in urself and build the trust with urself and take ur decission.I know
that for this comment also their will be someone to comment with, i just say few
words I JUST DONT CARE. AS i take my decissions.
42.
#42
Oz
Jan 25th, 2016 at 4:39 am (Q)
I know iam intelligent, i make my decission and do learn from all tips and these tips
helps me to find out what really it is.
You are an absolute fool unable to comprehend a Ponzi-driven compensation plan.
All the belief in the world wont save you, have fun losing your money.
43.
#43
Xhell
Jan 27th, 2016 at 4:47 am (Q)
Thank you very much for your article Oz! I was *that* close to realize by myself that
BeonPush was a scam but I coulndt (wouldnt ?) because of all the littles stars
shining in my eyes.
A guy in my class told me today about BeonPush (yes that thing is still alive ), and
I knew about Ponzis schemes but the fact that I was told by a person of trust which
had kind of proof (money made from BeonPush by a friend of his), BeonPush being
pretty well done (for a Ponzi) and selling you dreams well It can truly have an
amazing psychological power!
But happily your article broke the spell and it became obvious it was a scam, rather
bad now that Im back to my senses.
Now writing a thesis to explain and convince my friends it is a scam, the guy who
told me about it is pretty deep in the charm because of his friend who made money
out of BeinPush Anyway thanks again!
44.
#44
Oz
Jan 27th, 2016 at 7:37 am (Q)
No worries Xhell, glad you found the review useful.
45.
#45
K Chang
Jan 27th, 2016 at 1:17 pm (Q)
Xhell: I was told by a person of trust which had kind of proof (money made from
BeonPush by a friend of his),
Its like urban legends, its always friend of a friend who makes money, isnt it?
46.
#46
NPandey
Jan 29th, 2016 at 5:10 am (Q)
Well to some who dont know what is SPONZI,
investopedia.com/terms/p/ponzischeme.asp
LOOK it properly and read too please
You are an absolute fool unable to comprehend a Ponzi-driven compensation plan.
All the belief in the world wont save you, have fun losing your money.
Now i said i will join it three days ago and today i have joined it, lets start the
journey , iam still intelligent , i will make money and i will show it here.
People say too much without researching, iam now in i will update all the the
happenings time to time.
It will be from time to time
so please do read my things. thank you for all who really read me.
47.
#47
Terrence B
Jan 29th, 2016 at 5:36 am (Q)
i am still intelligent
Smart people join ponzi schemes too!
Ask Bernie Madoff!
48.
#48
Oz
49.
#49
julien
Jan 29th, 2016 at 7:37 am (Q)
Great post. Im a profesionnal in finance in France and you analyse is 100% true.
AMF (french financial authority) Reminder Published March 12, 2014 (translation
sorry):
The AMF met cautioned against public investment offers promising Exceptional
returns, on a visible Way OR not, based on the establishment of A recruitment
system or sponsorship. Very attractive in appearance, they offers unrealistic profits.
They are generally scams and sometime they hide money laundering.
This type of assembly may take different forms: Trading On The Market changes (via
FOREX platform ) OR sale by or services.
The device continues Until New recruitments are possible. When it collapses,
sometimes QUICKLY, Members generally lose all of their initial bet to profit, often
the sole initiator and his accomplices.
The AMF Calls investors on vigilance, greater and invite them to:
Do not Respond to EC type offers and do not relay the Near levels;
In case of fraud, the victims must deposit complaint and competent judicial
authorities to Provide ALL THE comercial possible (references of remittances,
identifies contacts, addresses, emails O mails, etc.).
Generally Way, MFA ADVISES investors to Follow Rules Next before investing:
You Must not Forget That A placement who offer High Performance has high risks.
50.
#50
Antonio Lopes
Jan 30th, 2016 at 6:37 pm (Q)
Platform 100% ponzi. Very careful!
51.
#51
NPandey
Feb 3rd, 2016 at 2:42 am (Q)
@ OZ,
Iam not recruiting anybody here, iam all alone.. have invested 1k and today is first
day of invesment and i will update weekly earnings and say how iam making this
company as my fortune.
Do u have patience and see me through times to come, remember all who are
telling me a fool, i will tell you all i am a fool for today.
but iwill turn to be a intellingent when i start withdrawing money okay ..
till then please do write things coming on with you and ur life stories.
Like to add i respect everyone the manner they write to me, as i know i will not
loose anything but GAIN GAIN GAIN for sure
Time will say.
52.
#52
ksp7653
Feb 3rd, 2016 at 3:56 am (Q)
@NPandey
Do u have patience and see me through times to come, remember all who are
telling me a fool.
i will tell you all iam a fool for today but iwill turn to be a intellingent when i start
withdrawing money okay
Getting in Ponzi schemes is foolish, so Id say you are foolish.
53.
#53
Mr. Czech
Feb 3rd, 2016 at 4:40 am (Q)
How will withdrawing money make anybody intelligent?
By training his skill to handle auto teller machine?
54.
#54
Oz
Feb 3rd, 2016 at 6:52 am (Q)
@NPandey
have invested 1k and today is first day of invesment and i will update weekly
earnings and say how iam making this company as my fortune.
Whether you steal money from people who join after you is neither here nor there.
BeOnPushs business model makes it a Ponzi scheme.
Do u have patience and see me through times to come
Patience to wait for new victims to join after you so you can steal from them? No, I
dont.
Again, whether you withdraw funds youve stolen from subsequent investors has no
bearing on BeOnPush being a Ponzi scheme. Its business model does, and that
places BeOnPush squarely in scam territory.
55.
#55
mickael
Feb 3rd, 2016 at 12:11 pm (Q)
i want to give them a link . about high frequency trading in RTB (Ozedit: Paying
existing investors with newly invested funds has nothing to do with RTB trading.
Offtopic derail attempts removed.)
56.
#56
NPandey
Feb 6th, 2016 at 7:39 pm (Q)
@ Terrence B , @Oz,@ ksp7653,
i am not making anybody join me, its like simple i get the profits in the shares i
make by investing here the money.
well my well wishers, u all have told me not to go in this and it has tickled me to go
in , and i know i will prove u wrong,
I have not that good english like u all good people their,,, so i wont be able to
answer to ur all question in right manner,I am sorry for that.
Let me clear you one at any cost iam in that is the fact and its no money from my
downline, i will not make anyone of them and i will show the first withddrawals i
make okay ,,,, and the amount i made in my bankstatement not the virtual board of
my company site
So you all are here and providing me with different story to help me out, iam very
thank full for that.
(Ozedit: recruitment spam removed)
57.
#57
SD
Feb 6th, 2016 at 8:36 pm (Q)
58.
#58
Terrence B
Feb 6th, 2016 at 10:47 pm (Q)
NPandey:
@ Terrence B , @Oz,@ ksp7653,
i am not making anybody join me, its like simple i get the profits in the shares i
make by investing here the money.
well my well wishers, u all have told me not to go in this and it has tickled me to go
in , and i know i will prove u wrong,
If you were intelligent enough to read up on all the failed ponzi schemes posted
here you would have learned to avoid them at all costs.
Seeing as you posted a link here you have shown yet another sign of not being so
smart.
You have nothing to prove here most ponzi schemes pay for a time yet long term
they do more damage than good.
Seems you are just making a weak attempt to prove you will get paid a few times.
This does not prove that it is legal or a good thing to join.
Many more will lose money than will be getting paid.
You cant just think about yourself and your earnings.
Where do you think your profits come from in the first place?
Sooner or later it will come to a crawl from no one spending.
Dont waste your time or anyone else here time by posting proof you got paid.
You were told it was a ponzi and why. IF you refuse to see that then you will have to
learn that the hard way.
We dont need your referral link posted here no one plans to join from your ponzi
link.
59.
#59
Oz
Feb 6th, 2016 at 11:07 pm (Q)
Let me clear you one at any cost iam in that is the fact and its no money from my
downline
What are you talking about? Its a Ponzi scheme chief, you steal funds from
subsequent investors. Theres no sugar-coating it.
60.
#60
yo
61.
#61
K Chang
Feb 7th, 2016 at 1:09 am (Q)
NPandey: i get the profits in the shares i make by investing here the money.
Ah, the juicy steak argument. Dont ask if its real or not, if it tastes good its fine
(REF: The Matrix, Cipher)
But there are two questions you are not asking:
1) Is the company authorized to market this investment opportunity in your
jurisdiction? Financial investments are closely regulated.
2) How are they making the extra money they are paying everybody with? Real
investment places have traders making money on real markets.
62.
#62
K Chang
Feb 7th, 2016 at 2:46 am (Q)
NPandey: i will update weekly earnings
1) Its not yours until its in your bank account or in your pocket, not some webpage
that says you have this much
2) Even then, if you dont care about *where* did the money come from, there are
much more lucrative opportunities than this, albeit there are risks involved. But
then, you dont even know the risk profile of this venture, do you?
i am not making anybody join me,
Good idea. Would hate to have your friends and family coming after you if this thing
fails, either crying we trusted you! or enraged.
63.
#63
jeffrey
Feb 8th, 2016 at 1:38 am (Q)
PONZI IS JUST ONE PART OF OUR BUSINESS WORLD WHERE UNINFORMED LAZY US
GOES FOR BUSSINESS.
64.
#64
Npandey
Feb 15th, 2016 at 3:51 am (Q)
Well all here so the update of the first week, i have made just $65 and its going
good so well informed please frens here.
Well who is benefitting is not the important. important is that how the business
making me what i am thinking about, I know i have not that good words for all
here , point is how i am making money even when iam writing these words.
Its not that iam intellingent or not, as said u can take a horse to the water but u
cant make it to drink it. So was good start for me.
65.
#65
Oz
66.
#66
Hank
Feb 21st, 2016 at 4:49 am (Q)
Amazing, You dismiss this business model yet advertise, stock, Forex trading
platforms, seems to me this is not a credible review.
You say you guarantee that 150% cannot be met but what is your guarantee? Based
on what? Another blogger looking for website hits with inaccurate information this
gets really tiring to research legitimate companies
I just wish these reviews were done by qualified people who know the market. You
dont even know what the bidding for ads market involves.
Ahhh I said enough. This review is just hype and Sh ite.
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#67
Oz
Feb 21st, 2016 at 6:49 am (Q)
You dismiss this business model
Whos dismissing it? Investors pumping $20 to $10,000 on the promise of
advertised ROIs paid out of newly invested funds is a Ponzi scheme.
Theres a difference between calling out financial fraud and dismissal.
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#68
Jim
Feb 24th, 2016 at 1:30 am (Q)
i will like to ask the admin to tell readers on his website which programs people
must join to make extra income. its good to expose scams but exposing alone does
not solve our problems.
i am certain there good programs out there, so pleas do help us by telling us the
good ones or else we get rather confused by leaving us halfway.
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#69
Oz
Feb 24th, 2016 at 8:22 am (Q)
i will like to ask the admin to tell readers on his website which programs people
must join to make extra income.
Thats not what BehindMLM is about. Your due diligence is up to you, were not here
to make personally tailored recommendations.
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#70
mangkanor
Feb 24th, 2016 at 7:44 pm (Q)
I am not an investor, but I can feel that OZ has so much bitterness with such way of
earning money.
I agree ponzi is like stealing money from other people, but the problem is were not
even sure if its ponzi. OZ just claimed it is ponzi scheme lol.
And one more thing, something was brought up about why would beonpush need
your money if they could generate such income daily. I guess you guys should
search the meaning of the word bidding to understand why we need money. You
might be thinking why doesnt beonpush ask a friend in real life to invest for
him/her.
Why make it online? Well another research you need guys, search meaning of Real
time bidding online.
May be youll understand why. I am not an investor, I am saying this out of logic and
fairness.
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#71
Oz
Feb 24th, 2016 at 10:14 pm (Q)
but I can feel that OZ has so much bitterness with such way of earning money.
I agree ponzi is like stealing money from other people
Im just going to leave that there to sink in. Honestly, we get some of the most
dumbass Ponzi cheerleaders posting here sometimes
something was brought up about why would beonpush need your money if they
could generate such income daily. I guess you guys should search the meaning of
the word bidding
Nah, still a Ponzi scheme. Bidding has nothing to do with using newly invested
funds to pay off existing investors.
Well another research you need guys, search meaning of Real time bidding online.
Nah, still a Ponzi scheme. Real time bidding has nothing to do with using newly
invested funds to pay off existing investors.
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#72
mangkanor
Feb 25th, 2016 at 4:27 am (Q)
Hahaha,why do you keep on saying to pay off existing investors when you dont
have proof?
It is ponzi when they use new investors money to pay the old investors, thats
correct. But then, youre the one saying its ponzi, and youre the one saying they
use newly invested funds to payoff existing investors.
Dude get your head up, everything came from you.. Its ponzi because you say they
use newly invested funds to pay off existing investors. And then, they use newly
invested funds to pay off existing investors, thats why its ponzi LOL!!!
Everything came from you.. it really will be ponzi if u say they use newly invested
funds to pay off existing investors.. and they will really be using newly invested
funds to pay off existing investors because its ponzi.. EVERYTHING CAME FROM
YOU, YOU ARE JUSTIFYING YOUR OWN CLAIM LOL..
Stop claiming its ponzi and give me one proof they are using newly invested funds
to pay off existing investors and then Ill reconsider turning down my friends offer
of referral..
Thank you.. pls be open minded, you are so biased.. bop might really be a scam, but
everybody can feel your huge bitterness in this matter hahaha.
Poor guy.. may be you were scared before hahaha.. good for u coz youre an idiot
and a close minded person.. u dont accept others opinion coz u only believe in
what u think is right even if its wrong..
I pity u bro/sis.. live your life another way. Youre not a critic. Stop acting like youre
such a professional business man.. Stop posting or blogging coz it doest fit a close
minded person like you..
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#73
K Chang
Feb 25th, 2016 at 7:32 am (Q)
mangkanor: youre the one saying they use newly invested funds to payoff existing
investors. Dude get your head up,everything came from you
So do you have proof that have OTHER income other than member dues?
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#74
Oz
Feb 25th, 2016 at 8:43 am (Q)
Hahaha,why do you keep on saying to pay off existing investors when you dont
have proof?
What are you talking about? Its right there in BeOnPushs business model.
BeOnPush solicits thousands of dollars in investment from affiliates, and uses that
to pay off existing investors.
Its not rocket science where the ROI funds come from. Once again, the only people
in denial are BeOnPush investors.
But yeah, hope against hope this isnt a Ponzi when the obvious truth is staring you
in the face. Good luck with that.
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#75
JB
Feb 26th, 2016 at 5:51 am (Q)
Just to be clear, i completely get the whole Ponzi thing and how they make money
etc. but if you were to put money in whats the lifeline on these things?
i heard about this from a friend of mine who has been suckered into loads of them
Trafficmonsoon was another he mentioned that i didnt bother going in for. but he
has made some money doing it (albeit not a huge amount)
but i am now just thinking selfishly, if i did plough money in, how long till i stopped
getting a return (whether that return is gained rightly or wrongly) or am i simply
asking about how long bits of string are??
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#76
Oz
Feb 26th, 2016 at 6:23 am (Q)
if you were to put money in whats the lifeline on these things?
Online Ponzis schemes usually crash in about two years. There are of course
exceptions.
Ultimately a Ponzi scheme crashes when new investment dries up. Which yes, is a
bit like asking how long is a bit of string.
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#77
Timbo
Feb 27th, 2016 at 2:38 am (Q)
Ponzi or not, the new investors are lining up to throw their money away.
Many of the big leaders with hundreds of followers under them are doing a mass
exodus from the dying Ponzi scheme Traffic Monsoon. And guess what they are
pimping to their loyal devotees now?
Beonpush.
Its been going 3 years! No daily tasks required! Even a child could make money!
So, if you are a career Ponzi opportunist, beonpush is the next big thing to get in
and get out with some easy money.
Not saying if thats right or wrong, but beonpush popularity is rising and theres s
whole lot of money being dumped into it right now.
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#78
Darren Frost
Mar 1st, 2016 at 9:29 pm (Q)
There was a program sometime back with similar claims called Briscofunds that
lasted 6 months before it disappeared with everyones money. It was registered in
the UK with a bought address.
The full details of Beonpush are here:
companydb.uk/09714406-beonpush-ltd#.VtWRScfa6ek
With Ferki registered at a Macedonian address.
To mention the word investment in any marketing material available to UK
residents the organisation has to be registered with the FSA:
register.fca.org.uk
and display their registration number on all their marketing materials (including
websites). Nothing relating to any name related to Beonpush is registered at the
FSA and as they are not displaying a registration number the FSA have confirmed by
telephone that the Beonpush website is operating illegally in relation to offering
services in the UK.
All this is very similar to Briscofunds so time will tell when the site disappears in
June 2016.
well that is unless they get registered with the FSA and publish their registration
number that is
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#79
James
Mar 5th, 2016 at 1:13 am (Q)
The question remains to be seen as to whether it is a ponzi or not.
Surely if it were illegal to mention investments then will the FSA not take action
against false claims.
(OZedit: Spam removed)
is many here involved and what is experience
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#80
Oz
Mar 5th, 2016 at 7:30 am (Q)
@James
The question remains to be seen as to whether it is a ponzi or not.
The business model is known, so why does the Ponzi question remain?
Surely if it were illegal to mention investments then will the FSA not take action
against false claims.
Thats the old if we were illegal theyd had shut us down argument. Ponzi
regulation, particularly in the EU lags. This is no secret.
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#81
tom
Mar 5th, 2016 at 11:00 pm (Q)
beonpush is widely talked about on the internet .would there not be already an
agency checking it out by now if it is a legit business or not.
who wants to set up a group to find out if it is a scam or not. we can visit them,
maybe bring a an expert in. or ask a journalist to do a story about it.
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#82
Oz
Mar 5th, 2016 at 11:25 pm (Q)
would there not be already an agency checking it out by now if it is a legit business
or not.
As I understand it its only recently promotion has ramped up, following the relative
collapse of a few ad-credit schemes.
Either way, thats the if it was illegal authorities would have shut it down
argument. Doesnt hold water as its the business model that determines legitimacy.
who wants to set up a group to find out if it is a scam or not. we can visit them,
maybe bring a an expert in. or ask a journalist to do a story about it.
None of that addresses whats right in front of you, BeOnPushs business model. All
you need to do is follow the funds, and its pretty obvious thousands of dollars in
newly invested funds are being used to pay off existing investors.
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#83
Ewa
Mar 7th, 2016 at 2:21 am (Q)
Thanks for all your comments. I got here while researching the Beonpush company
and decided not to trust them.
It is not about RTB; it is about recruitment and the structure (MLM). I will stay away
from this venture.
Cheers all!
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#84
anjali
Mar 7th, 2016 at 12:33 pm (Q)
jerome: Waw ok i will leave you last comment for yourself, and the headquarter of
Beonpush opened in Dubai is Dubai also a a trashi place made for Ponzi?
Achiever: Let us just all wait for the Opening of BeOnPush Dubai Office
the so called beonpush headquarter/office in dubai turns out to be just a PO box
number, according to taratalks:
tara talks: PO BOX in Dubai:
Concord Tower
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#85
NPandey
Mar 10th, 2016 at 7:50 am (Q)
@ anjali say me one thing who is this Tara talks pls tell me about this person if
u dont know then ask me. I have some fans here as promised i come here to say
about my earnings in Beonpush.
Made raise in my earnings still money coming..
Pls dont use people who are Sued okay for saying other as scam or sponzi . to
good info Tara talks is being sued and here articles or blog has being completely
shut down . when tara talks looses the case then i will let you all know here.
So please without proof dont blame any company, as and when the company will or
take actions.
thank you very much.
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#86
Oz
Mar 10th, 2016 at 8:05 am (Q)
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#87
Gary
Mar 11th, 2016 at 1:46 am (Q)
OZ I would like to introduce you to a new social platform and its affiliate program.
Can you email me?
Gary
Thanks, You can call the owner here in the US and talk. the company is a US
company 100% legal.
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#88
Oz
Mar 11th, 2016 at 5:53 am (Q)
@Gary If you want to request a review, contact button is on the top right of every
BehindMLM webpage.
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#89
Whip
Mar 11th, 2016 at 6:35 am (Q)
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#90
MindSilver
Mar 11th, 2016 at 10:36 pm (Q)
As a man with over 18 of web development an internet marketing experience, plus
countless hours of researching and studying MLM, I would like to chime in for a
moment.
I have heard of BeOnPush for a few months now, but Ive only started examining
their website today. As far as people on Earth using false identities is concerned;
how many people really believe that the presidents real (Ozedit: Completelly and
utterly offtopic derail attempts removed)
Now, as far as you jumping the gun to call this a Ponzi Scheme, heres how youre
very very wrong.
People who are seriously uneducated by todays sophisticated business models
claim that all Multi-tiered Affiliate marketing and MLM are Pyramids, or Ponzi
Schemes.
The definition of a Ponzi is when a company uses money from new investors to
pay the dividends to older investors.
BeOnPush, and all other ad rev-shares are not Investments. Customers are not
buying shares to a share of a certain company or commodity, but rather they are
customers (mainly marketers) that are buying advertisement packages, and
because we are talking about digital advertisement (no ink and paper to buy, no
film or broadcasting equipment and crews to rent) we are talking about adpacks/packages that carry very little overhead, so the companies can afford to
share profits from their revenues, and unlike Ponzis theyll never collapse as
long as marketers have a demand to buy their products.
Like the telephone, the internet is here to stay. The telephone change business by
the way of telemarketing, and the internet has transformed business by the way of
internet marketing, so there is no argument to prove that ad-pack rev share
should collapse like pyramid or ponzi schemes.
This is not likely and to understand the reason lets use Traffic Monsoon as a prime
example. So-called watchdogs were saying they were going to take the money
and split, but when is it going to happen?
It hasnt and thats because members agree to withhold about 40% of their revshare profits to repurchase more ad packs and this leads to the long sustainability
of the ad rev-share business model, but most important is the reason why
customers do this this in the first place; that reason is because THEY understand
the business model, and THEY are making decent money!
Now, why has PayPal and you so-called watchdogs been legally cleared to slander
and attack so many honest businessmen and companies without a shred of
evidence or even probable cause is a topic that I would like to have discussed.
This is the total ignorance behind your bogus expert opinion:
Theyre ALL Ponzi Schemes because the only reason they are able to continue
paying revenues is because people keep buying those damn ad-packs!
OR
Hey Google is (Ozedit: not an MLM company. Derail attempts removed.)
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#91
Oz
Mar 11th, 2016 at 10:52 pm (Q)
As far as people on Earth using false identities is concerned
In MLM (or any legitimate business for that matter), there is no justification for the
use of false names.
Its fraud, and goes hand in hand with the running of a Ponzi scheme.
BeOnPush, and all other ad rev-shares are not Investments. Customers are not
buying shares to a share of a certain company or commodity, but rather they are
customers (mainly marketers) that are buying advertisement packages
Purchasing advertising packages doesnt pay a ROI, investments do.
You arent seriously going to contend the oldest pseudo-compliance bullshit in the
book are you?
AdSurfDaily tried that years ago. It didnt work and their founder is now in jail.
BeOnPush use newly invested funds to pay off existing investors. That makes it a
Ponzi scheme.
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#92
Terrence B
Mar 11th, 2016 at 11:23 pm (Q)
MindSilver:
As a man with over 18 of web development an internet marketing experience, plus
countless hours of researching and studying MLM
You mean in 18 years you have no seen the dozens of ad-pack ponzi schemes come
and go over the years?
You sound just like an owner that wants to justify his own agenda in his own
scheme. You put up all the excuses yet the poof is non of these ad-pack schemes
are sustainable.
Unlike a real business providing a service you dont expect to be paid by the
phone company for paying your bill.
This is where these schemes go off the rails each time.
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#93
K Chang
Mar 12th, 2016 at 1:30 am (Q)
MindSilver: ad rev-shares are not Investments. Customers are not buying
shares to a share of a certain company or commodity, but rather they are
customers (mainly marketers) that are buying advertisement packages
You better go look up Ad Surf Daily case then, since you clearly did NOT study past
case laws before sharing your uneducated opinion.
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#94
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#95
Dirk
Mar 23rd, 2016 at 5:34 pm (Q)
You should do better researches before publishing
What do you think why his address is from Brussels, Belgium ?
He is member of the european parliament, and latest since yesterday (bomb terror)
all people should know that the european parliament is located in Brussels.
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#96
Oz
Mar 23rd, 2016 at 5:56 pm (Q)
What do you think why his address is from Brussels, Belgium ?
He is member of the european parliament
Right, because anyone who lives in Brussels, Belgium is a member of European
parliament. No worries.
Why do he need money from Investors ?
All companies need money
Perhaps, but they dont source investment from new investors to pay off existing
investors.
Paying out Ponzi ROIs is not capital growth, is an ever-expanding liability that will
eventually see the company collapse.
So, before posting something like that, do your researches and try to understand
marketing..
The BS marketing videos Ponzi schemes put out tend to make a lot less sense when
you lay off the koolaid chief.
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#97
Whip
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#98
K. Chang
Mar 24th, 2016 at 12:50 am (Q)
Dirk: He is member of the european parliament the european parliament is
located in Brussels.
Two problems.
1) Espace Leopold in Brussels Belgium is a SECONDARY location for the European
Parliament. Primary location is Louise Weiss in Strasbourg France.
2) The names of European Parliament members are easily found online at
europarl.europa.eu/meps/en/full-list.html It does not have anybody named Ferki.
Kinda do your own research before repeating nonsense relayed to you and accuse
others of doing no research.
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#99
Noname
Mar 24th, 2016 at 7:35 am (Q)
@OZ
I am still wondering why people are still dumb enough to think that Beonpush is not
a scam, just by looking at their unknown money exchanger (Payza and Payeer), you
can tell its a fraud.
Since when a money exchanger company hasnt got a phone number. Moreover
what they are actually doing is exactly what you said, they are using the money of
the investors to pay the other investors. This exactly the Madoff scam Idea.
Finally that @Jerome guy is probably part of the scam, since he is doing videos to
promote the scam: vimeo.com/user48839460
This is ridiculous and has to stop NOW!!
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#100
Doggy81
Mar 24th, 2016 at 10:57 pm (Q)
Hey guys,
Look what I just found from a german website
A woman made a screenshot from the website beonpush.com on 17th february
2016.
Beonpush copied the terms and conditions from the well known fraud AdBrook and
forgot to change one time Adbrook into Beonpush. LOOOL
fs5.directupload.net/images/160227/goav34b6.jpg
We must do something.. We must warn the government. In Gemrany we had in
2015 a ponzi fraud with 23 million euro taken from investors and never payed back.
101.
#101
Doggy81
Mar 25th, 2016 at 12:08 am (Q)
Hey guys,
Look what I just found from a german website
A woman made a screenshot from the website beonpush.com on 17th february
2016.
Beonpush copied the terms and conditions from the well known fraud AdBrook and
forgot to change one time Adbrook into Beonpush. LOOOL
fs5.directupload.net/images/160227/goav34b6.jpg
We must do something.. We must warn the government. In Gemrany we had in
2015 a ponzi fraud with 23 million euro taken from investors and never payed back.
102.
#102
NPandey
Apr 3rd, 2016 at 6:22 pm (Q)
So hi.. everyone ..iam still here earning in beonpush. my $20 invesment has paid
to out till now $11.75 .. going good .. having in account till now .. will withdraw
when i get $30 in myaccount
Iam simply testing it and Nothing else iam doing.. Well when iam successfull here to
get this money i will show my account pic here too
idont come under any pressure investing small amount is okay to give a try
I am aware of what are sponzi and scam i dont want to prove this is scam and that
is not iam just to prove myself what iam happy with challenge.
Ihave challenged myself to prove that Beonpush is good place to make money. I had
done this before in year 2015 in Feb When taratalks said about My advertising pays
is scam
What is the endeffect TARA TALKS IS SUED IN USA NOW and all her blog have being
forced to come down.. and what i got from this challenge iam earning from My
advertising pays monthly around 4.5k
That is what i have won. Similar manner i will win again.
Say alll my friends against BEONPUSH that will make me more stronger to believe in
it .. find out more about negative points that makes me more to grow.
iam experienced and well known to win the challenge. Wait all my good friends who
can write against Beonpush write it
iam back after a month here to write on my progress till then happy SPRING TIME
IAM LOVING MY TIME WITH MY FAMILY AND my success.
bye friends
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#103
Oz
Apr 3rd, 2016 at 7:41 pm (Q)
What is the endeffect TARA TALKS IS SUED IN USA NOW
Case number please.
And for the love of god spend some of that stolen Ponzi money on a grammar lesson
or two.
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#104
littleroundman
Apr 3rd, 2016 at 8:05 pm (Q)
NPandey: What is the endeffect TARA TALKS IS SUED IN USA NOW and all her blog
have being forced to come down
REALLY ????
It sure looks like the Tara Talks blog is still up to me.
Perhaps youd like to give us some proof.
You know, like case numbers, screen grabs of an empty webpage stuff like that
Oh, and one other thing.
That $4500 a month, is that the amount in your back office or the amount you
withdraw to your bank ???
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#105
ksp7653
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#106
ksp7653
Apr 3rd, 2016 at 9:50 pm (Q)
@NPandeyHere, go look.
taratalkstoday.blogspot.com/2016/03/beonpush
You will need to look on the right for beonpush scamits there.
107.
#107
K. Chang
Apr 4th, 2016 at 12:32 am (Q)
NPandey: I am aware of what are sponzi and scam i dont want to prove this is
scam and that is not iam just to prove myself what iam happy with challenge.
You are happy of being a knowing participant in a Ponzi scheme and a scam. That
makes you a co-conspirator.
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#108
Terrence B
Apr 4th, 2016 at 5:50 am (Q)
NPandey:
So hi.. everyone ..iam still here earning in beonpush. my $20 invesment has paid
to out till now $11.75 .. going good .. having in account till now ..will withdraw when
i get $30 in myaccount.
iam just to prove myself what iam happy with challenge.
iam experienced and well known to win the challenge.
So you want to prove you can withdraw from a scam?
Some people have way too much time on their hands.
I have to wonder who us being challenged here.
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#109
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#110
pp
Apr 4th, 2016 at 2:53 pm (Q)
Guys i am using beonpush from three months invested $200. Got till now $210
back from direct and commission income.
My money back into my pocket. Rest is bonus everyday coming into my pack I did
it and make it .u guys just scratch ur back
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#111
Oz
Apr 4th, 2016 at 3:47 pm (Q)
Stole $210 from people who joined after me. My money back into my pocket. Rest is
bonus everyday I steal from more people.
Fixed that for you. Something to be real proud about.
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#112
scamy
Apr 7th, 2016 at 2:50 am (Q)
is there a way to post some screenshots in here? i got some nice evidence about his
beonpush scam.
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#113
Oz
Apr 7th, 2016 at 6:45 am (Q)
You can upload images to a hosting website and then post a link to the image here.
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#114
Doggy81
Apr 7th, 2016 at 11:31 am (Q)
Scamy, upload it here and post the link postimage.org
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#115
scamy
Apr 7th, 2016 at 11:31 pm (Q)
Thanks OZ & Doggy81 for your reply I will keep my info offline for now.. The
collapse will come anyway.
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#116
scamy
Apr 8th, 2016 at 4:45 am (Q)
If my source is right > thats it for beonpush. Last nail has been put in the coffin.
GAME OVER.
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#117
Doggy81
Apr 8th, 2016 at 4:53 am (Q)
What are these last nails ?
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#118
scamy
Apr 8th, 2016 at 5:03 am (Q)
Doggy81 ..I may post a full report in the near future ..not now. not taking any risk.
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#119
Doggy81
Apr 8th, 2016 at 5:23 am (Q)
Sounds great.
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#120
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#121
Oz
Apr 8th, 2016 at 10:12 am (Q)
everything is a scam and or ponzi scheme.. I dont care if they call it legal or not,
just words. Whatever works works period.
Spoken like a true scammer. Props however for owning your dishonesty at the
expense of others.
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#122
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#123
Polar
Apr 8th, 2016 at 1:00 pm (Q)
I am just shocked at the number of ppl doubting this review, my suggestion to the
ppl who think theyre onto the deal of the century, read the comments on Zeek
rewards.
First are the doubters of the review then the cheerleaders then the angry insults
and finally the crying. (Im sure Im missing a few steps, thats K.Changs expertise).
Do yourself a favor and read the Zeek review comments, and youll find the
comments there are the same as the ones being posted here. At the very least you
can research some of the pro-ponzi arguments an try to put your twist on them.
I love hearing OZ call b.s. on this ponzi nonsense.
Kent you definitely need to read up, everything is a ponzi line has been over used,
can I suggest using social security, or the US government as a lame assed
comparison to your Ponzi scheme next time.
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#124
Kent Marketing
Apr 8th, 2016 at 1:11 pm (Q)
Indoctrinated people blinded by the system would be shocked by this, this is
understandable. So just stay in a a state of shock Polar, you are obviously to slow
and scared, and that is fine too.
BTW nobody said this was the deal of the century other then you! Just a good way
to make a few extra bucks, and there is nothing wrong with that.
No insults and anger allowed from anyone on either side..
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#125
Oz
Apr 8th, 2016 at 1:24 pm (Q)
Indoctrinated people blinded by the system
stay in a a state of shock
Theres some more of those Ponzi cliches Polar was talking about.
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#126
Kent Marketing
Apr 8th, 2016 at 1:38 pm (Q)
Okay, have it your way. Makes no difference to me.
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#127
littleroundman
Apr 8th, 2016 at 2:09 pm (Q)
Kent Marketing: Makes no difference to me
Yet, here you are rationalizing and justifying your participation in a deliberately
fraudulent illegal and immoral scheme.
Hypocritical, much ???
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#128
Kent Marketing
Apr 8th, 2016 at 2:36 pm (Q)
Im not rationalizing or justifying anything. There is nothing illegal about anything
that I and so many are doing (it is called investing)!
That is you rationalizing much.. and to even mention immoral makes me want to
LOL!
Since you asked, I will now answer your last question,,, yes you are very
hypocritical!
Does not really bother me, just funny littleroundman, because it is always the ones
who use words like you do, that are the biggest fraudsters.
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#129
Oz
Apr 8th, 2016 at 3:01 pm (Q)
There is nothing illegal about anything that I and so many are doing (it is called
investing)!
Cut the crap, Ponzi schemes are illegal the world over.
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#130
littleroundman
Apr 8th, 2016 at 3:24 pm (Q)
Kent Marketing: because it is always the ones who use words like you do, that are
the biggest fraudsters.
Oh-bloody-dear
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#131
Whip
Apr 8th, 2016 at 8:40 pm (Q)
Kent Marketing: Does not really bother me
lol. if it didnt, you wouldnt be here.
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#132
Julian
Apr 9th, 2016 at 6:57 pm (Q)
so how does RTB actually work? When they say bidding are they/we bidding for
position? Ive seen it as an option (I think) with Google Adwords?
AND Im sure it has no relation to the Forex market as mentioned above.
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#133
aarees50
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#134
Oz
Apr 11th, 2016 at 6:10 am (Q)
@aarees50
What if BeonPush takes the money they get from the packs people buy to buy
advertising spots on the internet and that the more spots they buy at a time the
cheaper they can get those spots.
Then they wouldnt need to solicit thousands of dollars in investment from affiliates.
Theyd get a small loan for $10,000 from a bank and over time scale up their
investment to make bajillions.
Now lets just say they are able to always auction these spots they have purchased,
for at least double what they bought them for. Now we are also going to assume
there is an unlimited number of spots to buy and unlimited demand for these spots.
Thats a lot of assumption, without any proof. And 200% ROI on bought advertising
with an infinite source of sucker buyers willing to pay a 200% grossly inflated price?
Please.
The bottom-line: The advertising world isnt full of idiots and quite obviously doesnt
pay the ROIs BeOnPush provide.
Youre talking about a multi-billion dollar industry in which BeOnPush isnt even a
blip on the radar.
Look, no doubt a fraction of a percentage of newly invested funds is put into
advertising.
This is so BeOnPush investors can run around the internet going SEE,
advertising! But lets cut the crap, for a $10,000 a pop Ponzi scheme offering 150%
ROIs, theyre obviously shuffling the majority of newly invested funds to pay off
existing investors.
The only condition anyone should even consider BeOnPush are providing ROIs
through advertising is if they submit to a public audit and/or register themselves
with the SEC and provide detailed financials showing so.
We both know thats not going to happen though, because Ponzi.
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#135
beonpusher
Apr 11th, 2016 at 5:25 pm (Q)
There is an audit report from PWC
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#136
Oz
Apr 11th, 2016 at 7:35 pm (Q)
There is an audit report from PWC
That shows dollar for dollar every ROI paid out funded by advertising?
Yeah, right. Pull the other one.
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#137
MoQueTe
Apr 11th, 2016 at 9:20 pm (Q)
Hello people, well I will give my personal opinion.
Beonpuh does not seem to be legit at all, you put money on it and it grows thanks
to the real time bidding?? What is that? As you said: why would they need poor
souls money to do that?
And also you are dealing with money, so why dont you even have a trusted server
certificate? Or maybe a strong protocol version or cipher suite? not, you just put
your user name, password and you are in
There are many things that dont fit to me but anyway on February 24th I put $50
on it and on April 8th I got $20 which I reinvested, now I just checked it and I have
$1.24.
I have no intentions of withdraw that money, I just want to see how it turns out, I
will keep you guys in touch.
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#138
beonpusher
Apr 12th, 2016 at 8:26 pm (Q)
It is an audit report from Price Waterhouse Cooperso you will have to ask them.
Dubai operates under Shariah Law so any business there has to comply to Islamic
principles. One of the pillars of Islamic business is transparency which means every
dollar earned has to be verified, it cannot come from an unknown source and
Interest is a strict No-No so what comes out as payouts have to come from ACTUAL
earnings and has to be verifiable.
As BeOnPush is operating out of Dubai under Shariah, it cannot be a ponzi period.
139.
#139
Doggy81
Apr 12th, 2016 at 9:01 pm (Q)
@ Beonpusher
Well, nice. But there is no official Beonpush registred in Dubai. For more
informations just ask dubaichamber.com
There is no company called Beonpush in Dubai. I checked this 2 weeks ago.
You dont need to have a registred company in Dubai to rent a office it cossts you
150 to rent a virtual office in Dubai. eoffice.net/en/dubai-media-city-virtual-officepremium.html
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#140
Whip
Apr 12th, 2016 at 9:34 pm (Q)
beonpusher: It is an audit report from Price Waterhouse Cooper
lmao! by all means.post it.
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#141
John
Apr 12th, 2016 at 10:06 pm (Q)
Haha yes the max business loan they could pay is 8% but they are soooo good at
advertising that they are happy to pay 150% returns AND manage thousands of
these small loans as well.
Does this make sense to you?
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#142
Chris Bailey
Apr 12th, 2016 at 10:28 pm (Q)
Kent Invest LLC.: everything is a scam and or ponzi scheme.. I dont care if they
call it legal or not, just words
Wow, and were often called negative, lol.
Nice way to try and rationalize criminal behavior. Might as well go club some little
old ladies over the head and steal their retirement funds while your at it.
Oh wait, its much easier and more civilized to smooth talk people out of their
money or let others do it for you in order to earn a profit.
143.
#143
Oz
Apr 12th, 2016 at 10:36 pm (Q)
@beonpusher
It is an audit report from Price Waterhouse Cooperso you will have to ask them.
No I dont. You mentioned the report. As far as Im concerned the audit claim is
bullshit until proven otherwise.
As BeOnPush is operating out of Dubai under Shariah, it cannot be a ponziperiod
Right. Thats some pretty dumbass logic fail right there.
Shariah has nothing to do with BeOnPush being a Ponzi scheme or not, BeOnPush
is a Ponzi scheme because of it uses newly invested funds to pay off
existing investors.
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#144
aarees50
Apr 13th, 2016 at 12:00 am (Q)
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#145
Oz
Apr 13th, 2016 at 12:05 am (Q)
If you wish to discuss the stock market, doubler scams you stole money in, oil and
the banks, do it elsewhere.
They have nothing to do with BeOnPush using newly invested funds to pay off
existing investors and being a Ponzi scheme.
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#146
Chrisstone
Apr 13th, 2016 at 1:03 am (Q)
beonpusher:
Dubai operates under Shariah Law so any business there has to comply to Islamic
principles. One of the pillars of Islamic business is transparency which means every
dollar earned has to be verified, it cannot come from an unknown source and
Interest is a strict No-No so what comes out as payouts have to come from ACTUAL
earnings and has to be verifiable.
How do banks charge interest then in the UAE ?
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#147
DJ
Apr 13th, 2016 at 2:44 am (Q)
All of the usual suspects (Ponzi Pimps) are participating: Ari Maccabi, Ian Michael
Bigg, Rob Fraser, etc.
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#148
K. Chang
Apr 13th, 2016 at 3:13 am (Q)
beonpusher: It is an audit report from Price Waterhouse Cooperso you will have
to ask them.
You claimed it exists, its up to YOU to prove it exists. Else, you are just full of hot air.
Are you?
beonpusher: Dubai operates under Shariah Law so any business there has to
comply to Islamic principles.
Then this scam cant possibly exist, yet it did:
NOLINK://www.thenational.ae/uae/investors-warned-over-double-your-cash-scamsin-dubai
Got any more uninformed opinions you care to share?
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#149
beonpusher
Apr 13th, 2016 at 10:29 pm (Q)
Just because you do not understand it does not mean it does not existwhat it does
mean very clearly is that you do not have the capacity to understand it.
Shariah compliance means no shuffling around of moneyprofits have to be earned
before it can be distributed.
islamic-banking.com/prohibition_of_interest.aspx
150.
#150
Oz
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#151
K. Chang
Apr 13th, 2016 at 11:22 pm (Q)
beonpusher: Just because you do not understand it does not mean it does not
existwhat it does mean very clearly is that you do not have the capacity to
understand it.
No, it just means you cant explain it properly, so you decided to use condescending
language, which suggests you dont understand it either.
Shariah compliance means no shuffling around of money
Nope, Shariah compliance means a lot more than that. Better look up the terms
gharar and riba.
In any case, theres no proof that BeOnPush is Shariah-compliant other than they
supposedly have an office in Dubai. Assumption is unwarranted.
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#152
Chrisstone
Apr 14th, 2016 at 12:49 am (Q)
Onecoin has/had an office in Dubai also. I suppose that means they are legit now
as well
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#153
edwin
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#154
Oz
Apr 14th, 2016 at 4:19 pm (Q)
What a compelling argument. You totally negated the fact that BeOnPush use newly
invested funds to pay off existing investors.
And what does risk have to do with anything?
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#155
beonpusher
Apr 14th, 2016 at 5:41 pm (Q)
How do you know that newly invested funds are used to pay off investors?? It is
just an assumption on your part.
In any case, BeOnPush is halal certified that means it is Shariah compliant.
Shariah compliant means that every dollar paid out must not be an interest
element, it has to have been earned, verified and accounted for.
It does not matter even if new investors money are used to pay off investors
money is fungible !!as long as investors are not paid in the form of interest but
from ACTUAL earnings from business activities, if it is not then it will no longer be
Halal and thus not Shariah compliant
As long as it is Shariah compliant and Halal it is not and can never be a ponzi.
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#156
Oz
Apr 14th, 2016 at 5:44 pm (Q)
How do you know that newly invested funds are used to pay off investors?? It is
just an assumption on your part.
Because newly invested funds are the only verifiable revenue source of funds going
into BeOnPush.
Ergo newly invested funds are being used to pay off existing investors.
Nevermind the fact that advertising and 150% ROIs are do we really need to have
this conversation.
as long as it is Shariah compliant and Halal it is not and can never be a ponzi
Using newly invested funds to pay off existing investors is all thats relevant here.
The assertion that BeOnPush operate from Dubai and therefore cannot be a Ponzi
scheme is a joke.
Im going to start marking comments waffling on about shariah law as offtopic.
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#157
Chris Stone
Apr 14th, 2016 at 8:58 pm (Q)
Halal Certified ? Are you eating beonpush ?
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#158
beonpusher
Apr 14th, 2016 at 9:15 pm (Q)
Halal and Haram do not just refer to food. Ignorance reigns.
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#159
Whip
Apr 14th, 2016 at 9:41 pm (Q)
beonpusher: Ignorance reigns
As proven by every one of your posts trying to legitimize a scam so you can get
your money back.
160.
#160
Chris Stone
Apr 14th, 2016 at 11:33 pm (Q)
beonpusher:
Halal and Haram do not just refer to food. Ignorance reigns.
IT refers also to foods, cosmetic , lotions, vitamins basically items applied into or on
the body etc. Although I have not ever seen it referred to Advertising etc..
Please feel free to show me other companies. nolink:ifanca.org/pages/certifiedproducts.aspx T
he reason for this is because of the supposed cleanliness of the product based off
the religious believe. I would have to say though via all the reading on here I have
not seen anything that would disprove that the company is not a ponzi.
If it using other peoples payments to pay off previously registered members then it
is a ponzi and any certificate from any law would not change that fact.
161.
#161
beonpusher
Apr 15th, 2016 at 6:14 am (Q)
Ha ha I dont need to get my money back. I happen to own it.
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#162
Earnwithgrant
Apr 16th, 2016 at 2:00 am (Q)
So a one year deal has been done with Lufthansa, Im confident they will do Due
Diligence.
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#163
Oz
Apr 16th, 2016 at 7:10 am (Q)
So a one year deal has been done with Lufthansa
According to who, BeOnPush or Lufthansa?
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#164
Funny that your company said their headquarters were in London, BeonPush was
not registered with Companies House as required by law. As soon as this was made
public almost immediately the headquarters moved to Dubai, where you still are not
registered as a business. Please explain why the sudden move?
But please answer all my questions instead of ducking them like you have for the
past 3 weeks when asked. Yep a real business here my assets.
165.
#165
beonpusher
Apr 20th, 2016 at 12:44 pm (Q)
What is your user id ?
166.
#166
Oz
Apr 20th, 2016 at 1:38 pm (Q)
^^ Offtopic. If youre not going to answer Lynndels questions just say so.
Not surprised
167.
#167
Sucks doesnt it when you got called out and cant respond for all to see. But prove
me wrong and answer them.
168.
#168
K. Chang
Apr 20th, 2016 at 4:03 pm (Q)
Lynndel "Lynn" Edgington: beonpusher: Why would I need an user ID for you to
answer my questions?
Probably so they enforce some sort of non-disclosure buried in the membership fine
print, and if any of the exchange is made public, theyll claim they changed it, and
revoke that members membership for violating AUP.
169.
#169
beonpusher
Apr 20th, 2016 at 8:40 pm (Q)
If you are not a partner you are not entitled to any answers
170.
#170
Oz
Apr 20th, 2016 at 8:47 pm (Q)
If you are not a partner you are not entitled to any answers
And there you have it folks, confirmation BeOnPush is a Ponzi scheme.
171.
#171
beonpusher
Apr 20th, 2016 at 9:56 pm (Q)
Yes it is a ponzi scheme please run for the hills.
172.
#172
K. Chang
Apr 21st, 2016 at 12:24 am (Q)
beonpusher:
If you are not a partner you are not entitled to any answers
So you have to join to learn about the scheme.
Are you aware that non-disclosure can make a contract unenforceable, which
renders membership agreement null and avoid?
Are you authorized by corporate to make such a decision? Or are you just trolling us
here?
173.
#173
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#174
ksp7653
Apr 21st, 2016 at 3:49 am (Q)
@beonpusher- Stupidity never wins.
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#175
Jon Walsh
Apr 21st, 2016 at 9:30 pm (Q)
@Beonpusher/Ferki, I have asked you over and over again to simply clarify what
your company does in RTB and you have been UNABLE to do that.
Let me explain as clearly as I can why there is overwhelming evidence that BOP is a
ponzi:
In RTB, 100% of the money for the ad space comes from the client, and the RTB
trader buys that media on the exchanges for cheaper than they are being paid for it
(on any metric). Someone could give me $1million but without an advertiser, there
is no space to buy with that make sense?
You could shut Lyndell, Oz, and everyone else up with just couple of sentences
saying which tech you use, or which exchanges you use I happen to be friendly
with seniors at all of the major RTB tech business and could easily verify what you
say.
I promise you, that I would be your biggest affiliate and would put $50k in tomorrow
and recruit everyone I know if you could simply verify something that is in no way a
business secret. I would also be able to put north of $100k worth of advertiser
spend a month with you if you could provide some credible answers.
I expect you to ignore this comment as you have done my emails. If you were a
credible CEO running a legitimate business you would answer this now and put to
bed this scurrilous opinions.
Again, I look forward to your response.
176.
#176
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#177
beonpusher
Apr 22nd, 2016 at 6:11 am (Q)
(Ozedit: Offtopic derail attempts removed)
Lets be totally outright here, I get anything from 3500 to 8000 signups a day even
at $20 a piece it is more money a day then you can tease me with lol your tiny
north of $100,000 will excite me ??? hahaha.
I will close this very soon, I dont need much more. I will take the program Private
and you all should know what that means.
You cannot get in so you cannot lose your money.Simple.
178.
#178
Oz
Apr 22nd, 2016 at 7:16 am (Q)
I will close this very soon, I dont need much more. I will take the program Private
and you all should know what that means.
It means youre about to run out of newly invested funds and were going to be
hearing from a whole lot of your victims
179.
#179
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#180
K. Chang
Apr 22nd, 2016 at 7:34 am (Q)
beonpusher: I dont need much more.
sheeple to fleece, then Ill retire to an island under an alias, suckers!
181.
#181
182.
#182
beonpusher
Apr 22nd, 2016 at 8:25 am (Q)
Yep this ponzi will closed down err.. I mean go private and I will have the next
ponzi in (Ozedit: recruitment spam removed)
183.
#183
But then it really doesnt make any difference if it is you or Ferki posting here it
doesnt change the fact this is still a Ponzi.
184.
#184
Martin
Apr 28th, 2016 at 9:59 pm (Q)
Thank you, now I m sure beonpush is just a ponzi.
185.
#185
Jay Carey
May 3rd, 2016 at 12:03 am (Q)
Oz: UK Take it from someone whos reviewed hundreds of Indian scams registered
in the UK. Its the perfect place for foreign national scammers to set up shop.
Amazing5 was registered as a company in the UK and look what happened to them!
Not even 5 months in they just disappear.
186.
#186
Harold
May 4th, 2016 at 2:12 am (Q)
Where is the real time bidding done? Where do bidders go to bid? Can Beonpush
show where this is?
If an advertiser wants to use the real time bidding how do they find it? What is the
website for the real time bidding?
187.
#187
SS2
May 4th, 2016 at 6:25 pm (Q)
I want to thank behindmlm.com for this review, which has confirmed my doubts
about this beonpush stuff:
It is curious and funny that this beonpusher guy has rejected in many occations the
chance to prove his business right. This also left me more skeptical.
Having failed in a similar project, I have learned a good lesson and my Number 1
Test question is this:
What legitimate product does your business offer for my money?
beonpush cannot answer this
no more people innocently joining there will no longer be any inbound cash flow, so
the scamming must, and will stop.
Letshavecash was a similar example/model: They were offering a nice profit for your
money, however, No Products were given
Until one morning people type letshavecash.com to be redirected to Twitter.com!
I challenge you both, beonpusher, and the other fellow, to prove me wrong on that.
Moreover, a good friend of mine who has invested money in beonpush told me you
guys went to Dubai to establish the business because the U.S. and Paypal were
not willing to trust you. What is your answer to that?
@NPandey this does not compare with MAP. MAP is legitimate business and they
have a valuable product for your money (you already know, right). My advice. Dont
spend another penny on this because it is going to crash soon.
188.
#188
Oz
May 4th, 2016 at 8:48 pm (Q)
this does not compare with MAP. MAP is legitimate business and they have a
valuable product
Oh dear god no.
MAP is a Ponzi scheme because newly invested funds are used to pay off existing
investors. Hate to break it to you but every modern Ponzi scheme has an attached
product.
The AdSurfDaily shutdown busted the ad-credit/Ponzi marriage. It doesnt matter
what product or service you attach to a Ponzi scheme.
189.
#189
The Fonz
May 5th, 2016 at 6:20 pm (Q)
Dear Oz,
A co-worker is gently pushing this on to me, and after looking into their website
several red flags popped up. Whats the product, Why is there such emphasis on
recruiting?, how come the website looks off compared to regular businesses?
I cant help noticing many staunch defenders in this thread seem to use the same
type of poor English (leaving out words, typical for people with an Eastern European
background).
It is also interesting to see how YOU keep repeating simple facts, whereas THEY
consistently try to undermine your authority (You know nothing! RTB is genius!,
Why should we believe you?, We have proof! BBC, etc.)
Thank you for an expert debunk and getting the word out!
190.
#190
Oz
May 5th, 2016 at 7:14 pm (Q)
No worries Fonz, hope things work out with your co-worker (report him to whoevers
in charge?).
191.
#191
James
May 6th, 2016 at 10:21 pm (Q)
Ok,.. sorry my englisch is not the best! My Question, look the Police in England
after beonpush?
the same like amazing5?
I believe that beonpus is one of the biggest ponzi system bigger like Onecoin,
and I dont understand that the Police do nothing,.. it is so clear, that beonpush
have no RTB Buisness, only but the money from the new people to pay the money
for the provision for the old people
help that this buisness stopping.
192.
#192
arik
May 8th, 2016 at 5:43 am (Q)
This is bullshit!! I am in Beonpush, and I can attest that you will make money in this,
and it is not a Ponzi Scheme. (OZedit: Offtopic derail attempt removed)
Look into this for yourself..(Ozedit: Attempt to take discussion offsite removed)
I get paid every dayand I am very happy with the results. May the blogger of
this site work for someone else for the rest of his life..slave. LOL.
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#193
Oz
May 8th, 2016 at 7:12 am (Q)
I am in Beonpush, and I can attest that you will make money in this, and it is not a
Ponzi Scheme.
I get paid every dayand I am very happy with the results.
194.
#194
K. Chang
May 8th, 2016 at 10:31 am (Q)
arik: I can attest that you will make money in this, and it is not a Ponzi Scheme
You can prove the first part, but you have NO proof for the second part.
First part does NOT disprove 2nd part. Every ponzi scheme pay until it collapses or
were closed down by authorities.
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#195
Whip
May 8th, 2016 at 10:44 am (Q)
arik: May the blogger of this site work for someone else for the rest of his
life..slave. LOL
My money is on hes far more well off than you to begin with.
196.
#196
Chris Bailey
May 8th, 2016 at 11:08 am (Q)
arik:
This is bullshit!! I am in Beonpush, and I can attest that you will make money in this,
and it is not a Ponzi Scheme. (OZedit: Offtopic derail attempt removed)
Look into this for yourself..(Ozedit: Attempt to take discussion offsite removed)
I get paid every dayand I am very happy with the results. May the blogger of
this site work for someone else for the rest of his life..slave. LOL.
Well, it looks like youve been in multiple ponzis/pyramids, so please forgive us if we
question your expertise.
Getting paid by a ponzi doesnt make it any less of a ponzi.
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#197
K. Chang
May 8th, 2016 at 12:55 pm (Q)
Whip: My money is on hes far more well off than you to begin with.
Scam fighting does not pay, scam does, so scamfighters *have* to be better off
than scammers to start with.
198.
#198
ponzi-killer
May 9th, 2016 at 3:03 am (Q)
Why is this ponzi still not dead yet?? At 175% returns this cannot last anything more
than 2 months why is it still alive??
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#199
ponzi-killer
May 10th, 2016 at 7:37 am (Q)
What is this? I dont understand. I make Magistrate Report on Beonpush in London.
They tell me it is legal business?? Ponzi is legal?
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#200
Oz
May 10th, 2016 at 7:41 am (Q)
Doesnt sound like the right avenue for securities fraud. They might have only
checked for a corporate registration, which costs 20 GBP and requires a PO Box.
201.
#201
ponzi-killer
May 10th, 2016 at 5:33 pm (Q)
Ponzi is ponzi is ponzi
This is a Magistrate how can he say beonpush is legal.
202.
#202
Oz
May 10th, 2016 at 6:27 pm (Q)
Their 20 GBP registration might be legal. Doubt the magistrate looked at their
business model, thats generally not how things work.
203.
#203
ponzi-killer
May 10th, 2016 at 8:48 pm (Q)
The Magistrate is not stupid..how come he can say it is not illegal??
It is a ponziwtf
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#204
Jane
May 10th, 2016 at 10:18 pm (Q)
Looks like the site is down, could that mean the UK authorities have got him lol?
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#205
Will
May 11th, 2016 at 12:33 am (Q)
Great reading. I have a contact on Facebook who keeps posting articles about the
latest MLM and HYIP. I cant work out if he knows hes scamming people or not.
I feel he, and the majority of people defending beonpush here are people who are
down on their luck who have been truly suckered by a con artist.
Even if you convince yourself that somehow the payments you receive are legit, just
stop and think: if you could earn 150% returns on your investment in a day, why
would you ask other people for their money?
You dont need it, your pot will continue to grow. Anything in life that seems too
good to be true generally turns out to be that way.
I read Ozs early posts and I really hoped he would help those people who are
looking to or have invested. But alas, it would appear they can not be saved.
Oz is not trying to shatter your dreams and make you look stupid, he is trying to
save you from wasting your hard fought money.
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#206
ponzi-killer
May 11th, 2016 at 7:55 am (Q)
Yes great. Finally the ponzi has been killed and is dead for good.
207.
#207
Mr. Czech
May 11th, 2016 at 3:30 pm (Q)
The site is still online for me. Maybe a temporary glitch or a local blocking?
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#208
DeluXe
May 11th, 2016 at 4:37 pm (Q)
@Will
Why do you say, that you can earn 150% a day? Thats wrong. Its 0,5-3,5% earning
a day.
In addition, there were published new features in backoffice yesterday. Classic and
premium membership. It not seems that the system will collapse soon.
209.
#209
ponzi-killer
May 12th, 2016 at 3:48 am (Q)
The site is not accessable anymore. The ponzi has run off.
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#210
DeluXe
May 12th, 2016 at 6:44 am (Q)
Are you serious? Theyre just integrate new updates.
These days, there is a lot work at the page, so it is sometimes slow for a while.. But
this has nothing to do with run off
211.
#211
ponzi-killer
May 12th, 2016 at 8:10 am (Q)
Hahaha they are introducing a cellphone for Africa??wtfit is new evidence that
it is a ponzi
It will be dead in a week
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#212
K. Chang
May 12th, 2016 at 11:36 am (Q)
DeluXe: Its 0,5-3,5% earning a day.
And its STILL stupidly high.
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#213
Alex
May 12th, 2016 at 2:41 pm (Q)
I invested 100 dollars yesterday and I cant buy packs today, it gives an error , do
you think it is the end and I just lost my money ?
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#214
DeluXe
May 12th, 2016 at 4:05 pm (Q)
@K. Chang
Its not the rate of return, just the payout of the package, there is a long distance to
reach the break even point.
@Alex
Why should it collapse today? There is just a lot work at the page these days, try it
later in some hours.
I came here to read real news/facto and not to follow conspiracy theorists..
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#215
littleroundman
May 12th, 2016 at 4:39 pm (Q)
DeluXe: @K. Chang
Its not the rate of return, just the payout of the package, there is a long distance to
reach the break even point.
Of course there is, thats how ponzis work.
At .5% per day, the fraudsters have your money for 200 days before you get back
your initial deposit.
So, youve sent your money off to someone you dont know, somewhere youve
never been and trusted he or she wont disappear before the 200 days are up and
that he / she is, in fact, depositing real money in your account.
Recipe for disaster.
216.
#216
DeluXe
May 12th, 2016 at 7:10 pm (Q)
@littleroundman
What you say about ponzi schemes is right. But why do you assume that Beonpush
is only a ponzi without own earnings? Any proofs?
I prefer to discuss about facts.
The said that when there are enough users, the binary bonus will be cancelled.
217.
#217
littleroundman
May 12th, 2016 at 7:57 pm (Q)
DeluXe: Any proofs?
I prefer to discuss about facts.
Good news,
how about you go away and find a business which can offer between .5% and 3.5%
a DAY without being a ponzi, a pyramid or a combination of both.
(Oh, in this world, please, not some alternative universe where returns of over
1270% annually are possible)
If you want to believe, fine, go ahead and throw your money at BoP.
But, please dont expect to be able to come here and spout nonsense about 1200%
plus annual returns and expect to go unchallenged
218.
#218
ponzi-killer
May 12th, 2016 at 8:24 pm (Q)
Someone just withdrew 19,000 Euros !! the ponzi is dead for sure now. They will
have no more money to pay out.
219.
#219
K. Chang
May 12th, 2016 at 11:20 pm (Q)
DeluXe: why do you assume that Beonpush is only a ponzi without own earnings?
Because such rate is impossible with a legitimate business. Do you have any idea
what sort of return can be generated if it can generate 0.5% DAILY, if you
compounded for 6 months?
220.
#220
Will
May 13th, 2016 at 12:40 am (Q)
DeluXe: Why do you say, that you can earn 150% a day? Thats wrong. Its 0,5-3,5%
earning a day.
In addition, there were published new features in backoffice yesterday. Classic and
premium membership. It not seems that the system will collapse soon.
Sorry for my mistake DeluXe. But as the others have pointed out, thats still
incredibly high.
Im no banker or accountant but I know that if I want to invest my money then 3.5%
a day is insanely high returns! If I put in $10,000 then Id be earning $350 a day! If I
were to put that back in each day, I would be earning nearly $1,000 a day with
$26,000 in there to withdraw!
Dont you think anyone with with $10,000 in the bank would do this? I could earn
$1,000 a day after a month with zero effort. And this would grow and grow, no-one
would ever have to work again!
Im not just saying this because I want to be right. Im saying it because I believe
that you are NOT a con man. I believe you have been tricked by an offer that is too
good to be true yet you desperately want it to be true.
The people who sold you this incredible offer know that you will feel this way and so
they have surrounded their lie with all the information that you are seeking to
confirm to yourself that you are right and the doubters are wrong.
Step back and look at BoP with respects to all the other investment opportunities.
Why dont others offer the same rates?
How can they survive when such great opportunities as BoP exist? Without having
to know any of the facts surrounding how BoP make money and how they pay
people, surely you can see from this that something isnt right.
I genuinely hope that anyone reading this who is already caught up in this scam
realizes what is happening and gets out. And please, please, pleasedont just
search google for the next one!
221.
#221
Gautier
May 13th, 2016 at 2:28 am (Q)
Is anybody here even serious for 3s ? Does anybody know anything about RTB here?
Ponzi-killer, even by your name you are a troll. I know the people who withdraw 19k
and it was mid-April, your information is outdated and guess what Bop is still alive
and pay me $250 everyday.
There are 2 sites : benonpush.com and beonpush.pro, the two sites underwent big
changes lastly cause Bop is about to release an Android/IOS application for Mobile
RTB and a complete mobile phone specially for Africa and India.
There is actually no real RTB leader in Africa mainly cause they use way more
Internet mobile, so we are going there with a complete working phone with mobile
RTB integration.
I think everybody here is juste a little too much tight-minded (if this word even
exist).
2009 straight after the subprimes, was one of the more profitable year for traders
all around the world and they made billions OUT OF NOTHING, just speculation!
So, making 150% after 4 months is easy. The fact that making money is hard is
something you think cause we are all brainwashed by rich people and society, but
believe me, making money is way easier that it seems.
Us here, are on a totally new market which is expanding very very fast.
If this market was possessed by few leaders, making them rich like never and you
would see in the news Ferki Demirovski, ceo of Beonpush is now on the list of
richest people on earth, Im pretty sure you would say Yeah, right time, right
place, I guess..
What is disturbing you here is that anybody can be successful too, me, you, Jerome,
anybody.
Peace my friend and never forget making money is easy as hell.
222.
#222
Gautier
May 13th, 2016 at 2:31 am (Q)
I forgot to say that I have actually 0 affiliates on any of my business. Im just
managing my money.
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#223
Oz
May 13th, 2016 at 7:45 am (Q)
Does anybody know anything about RTB here?
making 150% after 4 months is easy.
Right. And you can account dollar for dollar for all funds flowing into BeOnPush and
prove ROIs are paid from RTB revenue and not affiliate investment?
224.
#224
Terrence B
May 13th, 2016 at 11:44 am (Q)
Gautier:
There is actually no real RTB leader in Africa mainly cause they use way
more Internet mobile, so we are going there with a complete working
phone with mobile RTB integration.
Lets just dupe people in Africa that know nothing about this at all.
Its so easy to get rich that way.
I am sure the same effort wont go over so well in USA.
Epic fail.
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#225
James
May 13th, 2016 at 4:53 pm (Q)
Here something about Ferki it sounds not good:-)
transparency.mk/en/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=124&Itemid=4
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#226
James
May 15th, 2016 at 4:02 am (Q)
and from the telegraph:
Investors are being warned to be wary of a new online advertising investment
scheme that promises returns of up to 150pc. Launched last year, Beonpush, which
is frequently promoted by Facebook users, claims to offer individual investors a way
into a potentially huge market for online advertising.
It promises investors daily interest of between 0.5pc and 3.5pc, as well as income
for referring others.
telegraph.co.uk/investing/news/beonpush-the-new-ponzi-scheme-thats-sweepingfacebook/
227.
#227
K. Chang
May 15th, 2016 at 6:22 am (Q)
Its pretty obvious that there is no RTB at all. This is just good old investment
autosurf Ponzi (i.e. Ad Surf Daily) with a fresh coat of paint.
When you throw away all the buzzwords, all that remained is buy packs ->
profit. There is nothing else relevant.
228.
#228
Jon Walsh
May 17th, 2016 at 10:59 pm (Q)
@Gautier. Im pretty well versed in RTB, having run $millions of campaigns using
various DSPs and SSPs.
A good friend of mine was the founder of Admeld (an early SSP) that was sold to
Google for $400 million in cash. I know people at Board level at all of the major RTB
players (Appnexus, Rubicon Project, Pubmatic, Infectious Media, MediaIQ, BrightRoll,
Adap.tv etc).
For Beonpush to be legitimate, they would have to be working with at least one of
these tech companies. In addition, they would have to be getting demand,
predominantly via the Agency Trading Desks (ATDs) which is where the
overwhelming majority of RTB demand emenates.
BeonPush does not have any form of relationship with any of the RTB pipes/tech.
they have no connection to the demand side, and further to that, they have no
advertiser/industry facing marketing dont you think thats very strange?
Beonpush describes the way they make money like the stock market i.e. they use
affiliates money to buy impressions en masse upfront and therefore buy it cheaper
to then sell it to advertisers later at a profit this is a total falsehood.
RTB is performed in real time Every impression is treated as a single entity due to
its timing, position, and most importantly, who is viewing it! You simply cant buy
upfront that which is traded in real time.
If I was the CEO of BeonPush and there was so much negativity swirling around my
business, I would be quick to come out with backend screenshots of the DSP Im
using showing live campaigns, quotes attributed to both advertisers and tech
companies about how great we are to work with, interviews with the relevant
industry press (AdExchanger or ExchangeWire). None of this is commercially
sensitive and would shut up any naysayers.
BeonPush is a very obvious Ponzi scheme.
229.
#229
MoQueTe
May 19th, 2016 at 2:08 am (Q)
Hello everyone, first let me say: beonpush has never paid 150% of revenue, they
had just paid 50%, i mean: if you invested $100, after SIX MONTHS (long time) they
would give you $150 TOTAL, meaning that they had just paid 50% of your
investment.
Also they have made some changes recently, now you dont even get 50%, now its
just 30%, if you add $100 after 6 months ull get $130.
the 150% was just a propaganda to get more people, i mean: if a business gives you
150% of revenue, it should be 150% besides your investment.
Source: im a beonpush member.
Opinion about it: yes, even though im on it, i think its a scam, it will eventually
collapse.
230.
#230
Doggy
May 19th, 2016 at 4:47 pm (Q)
MoQueTe: Opinion about it: yes, even though im on it, i think its a scam, it will
eventually collapse.
Wow, so you think its scam, you know its scam but you earn from the people who
are under you in the pyramid. Can you go to police and tell them that please ?
231.
#231
Mr. Czech
May 19th, 2016 at 6:24 pm (Q)
Doggy: thats a usual way of a mindset control of some participants in these
scams:
I am undergoing the same risk as others. Nobody forces me and the others to
join.
232.
#232
MoQueTe
233.
#233
Char
May 20th, 2016 at 12:45 am (Q)
MoQueTe: hehehehehehehehe, who told u i have people under me?
So youre just an accessory to the crime? Would you lend your friend your gun to
rob a bank?
I know you were trying to appease your friend. I get that. But seriously folks, we
need a change of attitude!
We have got to get to the point where there is accountability to PARTICIPATE in
these things. If there was, I think more people would refrain and not feed the beast.
234.
#234
boper
May 21st, 2016 at 12:42 pm (Q)
Beonpush has paid $71 million to investors since inception.
This is a very rich ponzi and a very rich scammeror..
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#235
Oz
May 21st, 2016 at 1:02 pm (Q)
Beonpush has paid $71 million to investors since inception.
Says who, your upline?
Cmon man
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#236
boper
May 21st, 2016 at 9:46 pm (Q)
I guess you are not in the know..
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#237
Oz
May 21st, 2016 at 9:56 pm (Q)
If by in the know you mean what your upline told you, then no.
Meanwhile back in reality
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#238
boper
May 23rd, 2016 at 3:05 am (Q)
The reality is that Ferki has some very strong credentialsmostly from social ngos
and United Nations.THAT is the reality.
What are yours??
239.
#239
Oz
May 23rd, 2016 at 4:43 am (Q)
What are yours??
That thing between my ears does a pretty good job of sussing out whether newly
invested funds are being used to pay off existing investors.
Yours meanwhile seems to be making excuses for Ponzi schemes.
240.
#240
K. Chang
May 23rd, 2016 at 4:55 am (Q)
boper: Ferki has some very strong credentialsmostly from social ngos and United
Nations.THAT is the reality.
You got proof of that thats NOT from BOP or Ferki himself? Or is it just a bunch of
bogus titles he bestowed on himself?
241.
#241
Olga
May 26th, 2016 at 4:41 am (Q)
money is not received on payeer!!!! SCAM
242.
#242
fast by private jet BUT THIS WILL certainly affect the daily rate SO NO we will keep
it as it is!
we will work hard and even harder. we will even see to increase margins by cutting
some costs that we could afford.
I dont need luxury I prefer to invest all profits i make in the new project comings
and in the future of Beonpush.
I know that soon support will be fine. update is finished and all little bugs will be
corrected and we will show the world what is it to be a beonpusher!
many successful companies started in a garage! our garage might be big thanx to
all of you but wait for the days we show that this was the right way to do things.
NOW as CEO of BEONPUSH , me Ferki DEMIROVSKI i have to say tomorow is a new
day. and tomorow i will work even harder and better and i will remember who
from you has the same spirit and wake up and do the best HE/SHE CAN to make this
company GREAT!
because sitting, waiting and complaining never did make things go on higher level.
this is not my company BUT OUR COMPANY !
thank you all my friends for our nice messages and have a good night !
Ferki DEMIROVSKI
PS: i just did need to take out all this from my mind and to tell it to you because im
happy that company finished with updates that company finance and
organisational is stronger than ever for us to go on to China and sign all for Beontel
and all new super features for beonpush
Interesting isnt it that this CEO of this great company cant use proper grammar
and punctuation. But at least Ferki did admit that BeonPush is a Ponzi.
There is no way in Hades that he can pay those kind of returns when he himself
stated the profit margins were very thin. In short, he is blowing smoke up your skirts
claiming he can pay those kind of returns with such thin profit margins.
Now what was this again about BOP paying out over $71 Million Dollars?
243.
#243
Oz
May 26th, 2016 at 7:39 am (Q)
Putting aside the investment amount required to pay out $71 million dollars on thin
profit margins, anytime a suspected Ponzi scheme that operates in English claims
theyre targeting China watch out.
Only one reason to operate there, they cant sell their business model in the west.
244.
#244
julien
May 26th, 2016 at 5:28 pm (Q)
Please explain me why they dont have any accounting and auditored accounting
(obligatory ), and why luxembourg doesnt recognize beonpush and they say
beonpush was never registered (because if they take deposit they have to register
themselve)?
Right answer is because it is a scam.
245.
#245
James
May 27th, 2016 at 7:05 pm (Q)
nobody knows something about Ferki in the EU parlament, why???? it is a fake.
246.
#246
boper
May 28th, 2016 at 10:05 pm (Q)
BeOnTel smartphone manufacturing contract is finalised in China and going into
production.
Will be released soon.
247.
#247
boper
May 29th, 2016 at 10:37 am (Q)
Google Ferki and President of Albania Parliament and you see pictures of his
meeting with the President of Albania Parliament.
The Albania Parliament supports ponzi ??.must be I guess.
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#248
Oz
May 29th, 2016 at 10:39 am (Q)
The Albania Parliament supports ponzi ??.must be I guess.
Only if the Albanian Parliament has invested in BeOnPush.
Your amateur-hour attempts at legitimacy by association otherwise fall flat.
249.
#249
James
May 29th, 2016 at 4:58 pm (Q)
where can i Advertise with Beonpush? show me, please!!!
250.
#250
boper
251.
#251
Oz
May 30th, 2016 at 11:26 am (Q)
Obvious troll is obvious.
Source or permanent spambin.
252.
#252
K. Chang
May 30th, 2016 at 12:23 pm (Q)
Right, and Obama is my uncle.
253.
#253
littleroundman
May 30th, 2016 at 12:55 pm (Q)
boper: Goldman Sachs has taken a 20% stake in Beonpush.
That would be the Fred Goldman-Sachs who owns a deli in East Los Angeles.
254.
#254
James
May 30th, 2016 at 2:43 pm (Q)
@boper
Please bring the proof that goldman sachs invest fr 20%.. :-))) you are grazy.
255.
#255
Adobe
May 31st, 2016 at 10:10 am (Q)
Thank you very much for the sound reasonings Oz. Best regards!
256.
#256
Oz
May 31st, 2016 at 10:58 am (Q)
Glad you found the information of use.
257.
#257
VG
May 31st, 2016 at 3:37 pm (Q)
RTB?? Real Time Bidding? Where do these companies do this online bidding, if they
do it for themselves, then why wold they buy any time from BoP?
What BoP sells to the advertisers? no proof!
and what about this ?
learnhowtoearnfromhome.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/BeOnPush-ScamScandel-revealed-1.jpg
SELF help!
258.
#258
WatTruth
Jun 1st, 2016 at 3:37 am (Q)
I have been following this sites advice with regards to Beonpush now for several
months and have been convinced by the experts here that this is truly a ponzi and a
scam.
I have seen so many people being paid out great amounts of money by beonpush
and now just seen another payout in excess of $20,000
This is his 63rd payout and all have been big.
What REALLY is the truth here?
Is this a scam or are we being led to lose BIG TIME ??
259.
#259
Oz
Jun 1st, 2016 at 7:10 am (Q)
I have seen so many people being paid out great amounts of money by beonpush
and now just seen another payout in excess of $20,000
This is his 63rd payout and all have been big.
As long as new investment rolls in, existing investors will get paid. Thats how a
Ponzi scheme works.
260.
#260
WatTruth
261.
#261
Oz
Jun 1st, 2016 at 9:11 am (Q)
No. Only Ponzi schemes.
262.
#262
WatTruth
Jun 3rd, 2016 at 7:58 am (Q)
Big impressive event in Paris. Now big event in Brusselsnext will be London and
New York?? Factory in China. Launching of Beonpush Smartphone.
This does not look like a dying ponzi.
This looks like a flourishing Multi National.
Are ponzis supposed to behave this way??
263.
#263
Oz
Jun 3rd, 2016 at 8:06 am (Q)
This does not look like a dying ponzi.
This looks like a flourishing Multi National.
If you ignore the business model and pay attention to stuff that doesnt matter,
sure.
Recruitment events, claims that have nothing to do with using newly invested funds
to pay off existing investors pretty standard Ponzi behaviour
264.
#264
WatTruth
Jun 3rd, 2016 at 1:00 pm (Q)
Hmmmare you then saying that recruitment is required to continue to make
money on beonpush?
Do you really know what beonpush is abouthave you got an account to see what
happens internally?
265.
#265
littleroundman
Jun 3rd, 2016 at 1:34 pm (Q)
WatTruth: Hmmmare you then saying that recruitment is required to continue to
make money on beonpush?
Oh no !!!!
Not the old Are you then saying waffle, waffle, waffle pyramid schemers
nonsense.
You obviously have comprehension problems, so Ill type this really slowly,
In MULTI LEVEL MARKETING if it is possible to make the majority of any income
earned by recruitment and NOT from sales to those not directly involved in the
opportunity i.e. retail customers and / or it is a requirement that members payto-play then you are in pyramid / endless chain recruitment territory which is both
illegal AND more importantly, from a potential members point of view,
mathematically guaranteed to fail once recruitment slows
266.
#266
Oz
Jun 3rd, 2016 at 1:35 pm (Q)
are you then saying that recruitment is required to continue to make money on
beonpush?
Nope.
Do you really know what beonpush is about
Sure. Invest money and collect a ROI from newly invested funds. At least thats
whats in the compensation plan.
267.
#267
Mr. Czech
Jun 3rd, 2016 at 8:27 pm (Q)
WatTruth:
Big impressive event in Paris. Now big event in Brusselsnext will be London and
New York??
.
This does not look like a dying ponzi.
Good joke. International events, conferences, meetings are the engine and
feeders for pyramid and Ponzi scams. Their purpose is obvious:
a) Give a feeling and impression of legitimacy to the current members
b) Harvest some new members
What next?
Factory in China. Launching of Beonpush Smartphone.
Are ponzis supposed to behave this way??
Yes, some do it this way. World GN, Kairos they use some cheap re-branded
phones from China and include this stuff in their business packages.
This business model is close to dropshipping. You dont produce and develop
anything, but you can buy cheap no-name stuff from Asia, put you brand on it, and
sell it with higher margin and ship it with aid of the high level logistic provided by
Amazon etc.
A false impression of your brand is essential there. Works fine on some specific
markets (like MLM enthusiasts and scam promoters). Added value is closed to nil.
Reason why to do that?
a) To legalize business scammer can shout: Hey, we have physical products in our
packages! or We have a factory in China we are real!
b) To provide false impression to affiliates they bought something valuable and
physical in their packages.
Well, phone for 110 USD in package for 2777 USD (Kairos) is a nice example.
268.
#268
Mr. Czech
Jun 3rd, 2016 at 8:31 pm (Q)
WatTruth:
This does not look like a dying ponzi.
This looks like a flourishing Multi National.
This looks like a flourishing Ponzi.
BTW, how is a branded phone related to RTB?
269.
#269
Jay Carey
Jun 3rd, 2016 at 8:44 pm (Q)
Im sick of trying to educate idiots into saving their money. All i get is the same
bloody responses.
IT IS NOT A PONZI BECAUSE I AM GETTING PAID!
Wake up morons. You are only getting paid because some other poor sucker has
come in and invested some money with the same expectations that another sucker
will come and they will get paid.
That is not a business, nor are you an entrepreneur. Its just plain stealing and
throughout the process you are stealing money the people below you are likely to
never see again.
If you are happy to take money then that says a lot for your personal ethics and
morals. Remember: whatever you are stealing, the owner is stealing 10 or 100
times more than this and laughing at you.
If you make it big and become a top affiliate then be prepared to show up in court to
justify your earnings. You could try the Faith Sloan approach and claim ignorance I
never knew i was stealing money. I didnt know it was a ponzi!
You can see how well that has worked out for her.
Real marketers actually build something with substance and work their asses off to
do it. The difference is you know it will not just disappear within a few months.
People who have no idea and just want to get along by stealing join
Revshares/Ponzis.
Which are you? I am pretty disappointed with a friend of mine at the moment
because all they do now is promote revshares despite building a reputation in the
legitimate advertising industry.
I keep saying to them you do realize that as each site shuts down your own
reputation is being diminished to the point where no one will join you in anything
again?
Maybe one day they will listen. Heres hoping.
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#270
mlmpro
Jun 5th, 2016 at 7:10 am (Q)
Beonpush will be closing down soon. It will stop taking new members when it
reaches its goal of 500,000.
This ponzi is going down soonpoof!!! It cannot survive without new members.
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#271
K. Chang
Jun 5th, 2016 at 9:39 am (Q)
WatTruth: Launching of Beonpush Smartphone.
Get on Alibaba. If you order 1000 units you can get it for $31 USD each.
NOLINK://wholesaler.alibaba.com/product-detail/Android-smart-mobile-phone3Gmanufacturer-hotselling_60498350481.html
There is no BeOnPush factory. Stop dreaming.
272.
#272
Adbrook
Jun 7th, 2016 at 10:06 am (Q)
jajaja this ponzi is such a joke, just copy/pasting other ponzi terms and conditions
without even changing the names.
nitram02.free.fr/bop.png
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#273
Mr. Czech
Jun 7th, 2016 at 8:21 pm (Q)
Adbrook:
just copy/pasting other ponzi terms and conditions without even changing the
names.
nitram02.free.fr/bop.png
Bingo! The structure and the levels of BOPs compensation plan sounds familiar too.
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#274
Mr. Czech
Jun 7th, 2016 at 8:29 pm (Q)
AdBrooks terms and conditions: goo.gl/6RB0gw
BOPs terms and conditions: beonpush.com/conditions
Many clauses are the same. BOP is a restart of AdBrook.
275.
#275
mlmpro
Jun 8th, 2016 at 3:44 pm (Q)
Yes it is a restart of Adbrook and making lots of moneygreat ponzi but dont join
nowyou missed the boatyou can only lose money now if you join.
276.
#276
mlmpro
Jun 9th, 2016 at 7:52 am (Q)
It looks like beonpush has stopped paying.
It is bye bye.
277.
#277
The interview itself is in english but it is intended for german speaking audience
(investment-network.eu/2016/06/03/invenet-zu-besuch-bei-beonpush-interview-mitceo-ferki-demirovski/).
278.
#278
Oz
Jun 11th, 2016 at 8:24 am (Q)
@Its not an interview its a promo piece from Igor Horst, who is obviously BeOnPush
affiliate.
Horsts website was only created in April, 2016. Other schemes promoted on it
include the Ponzi schemes BitClub Network and FutureAdPro.
BeOnPush is right at home there.
279.
#279
mlmpro
Jun 13th, 2016 at 4:25 pm (Q)
Beonpush is going to die soon.
It just paid out more than $120,000.00 to a member. It cannot survive after this
already.
280.
#280
Oz
Jun 13th, 2016 at 6:42 pm (Q)
Itll survive for as long as new investors continue to pump money into it.
281.
#281
mlmpro
Jun 13th, 2016 at 9:11 pm (Q)
OMGthey just paid out $200,000 to one of the leaders. They will disappear after
this for sure
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#282
James
Jun 13th, 2016 at 9:22 pm (Q)
they have the $ 200,000 paid to a MIM Leader, or to an investor?
there is a difference, because the MLM only get up to $ 3000 so a day, and an
investor most 15,000 $ which he has earned from the $ 10,000?
283.
#283
mlmpro
Jun 15th, 2016 at 9:23 am (Q)
They gave out career gifts to a few leaders from $50,000 to $200,000
This proves it is a pozi scam.
284.
#284
Oz
285.
#285
Terrence B
Jun 15th, 2016 at 10:05 am (Q)
Many ponzi schemes are known for handing money out to key players just to keep
up the front they are paying out big money.
When the truth is the money really never leaves the system.
286.
#286
mlmpro
Jun 15th, 2016 at 1:03 pm (Q)
Right so this is a ponzi scam for sure no???
287.
#287
Oz
Jun 15th, 2016 at 4:56 pm (Q)
If BeOnPush had anything to do with advertising, they wouldnt need affiliate funds.
Those ROIs have to come from somewhere, and in the absence of any verifiable
revenue source, that leaves newly invested affiliate funds.
288.
#288
mlmpro
Jun 15th, 2016 at 9:48 pm (Q)
So it is definitely a ponzi scam right??..It is a 100% thing no?
289.
#289
Char
Jun 15th, 2016 at 11:17 pm (Q)
YES!!!!!!
290.
#290
James
Jun 15th, 2016 at 11:40 pm (Q)
Yes!!!
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#291
Minsdsilver
Jun 16th, 2016 at 5:33 am (Q)
Allow me to combat the admin for one minute please because I dont quite
understand his rant. First, let me say that I am NOT a member of BeonPush, or any
other RevShare program; however, I am HOPEFUL that eventually some CEO will get
it right and create a fair, legal, sustainable, and profitable way for poor, working
class people or have-nots to make a living using the internet like all (Ozedit:
Offtopic derail attempts removed)
Lets take the admins argument against RTB. He says so what if RTB does make
profits or its doubtful that RTB does make profits because Beonpush would NOT
need $20 -$10,000 from investors.
Thats NOT wise or intelligent logic because Google (Ozedit: Google is not an MLM
company soliciting up to $10,000 in investment on the promise of an advertised
ROI, offtopic derail attempts removed)
Conclusion: If you dont know what RTB actually is then how can you slander a
mans business and reputation.
RTB could actually be generating millions of dollars in revenues that is actually used
to pay members and sustain the program and Beonpush could be using the capital
generated from their MLM to develop software, cloud based servers, and advertising
campaigns. HOW WOUL YOU KNOW?
Many people are relying on the success of Beonpush and they dont feel too kindly
about publishers scaring or turning people away with slander.
Let me ask: could you make these attacks in court and win?
(Just MY two cents, please dont block, edit or censor any of my words) Mindsilver
292.
#292
Oz
Jun 16th, 2016 at 7:49 am (Q)
RTB could actually be generating millions of dollars in revenues
In which case thered be no reason to solicit investment revenue from affiliates.
HOW WOUL YOU KNOW?
Because obvious Ponzi is obvious.
Advertising isnt some magic money hole, where you deposit $x and get back a
fixed 1.5x ROI.
Let me ask: could you make these attacks in court and win?
Yup. Ponzi schemes dont file lawsuits, because all the plaintiff has to do is serve
discovery on verifiable revenue sources.
Ponzi scheme either runs or provides documents that demonstrate all the revenue is
sourced from affiliate investment.
293.
#293
mlmpro
Jun 16th, 2016 at 7:56 am (Q)
For the 2 that claim that beonpush is a scam. I would like you to answer just 3
questions.
(Ozedit: Offtopic derail attempts removed)
294.
#294
Oz
Jun 16th, 2016 at 7:58 am (Q)
@mlmpro
Both of those questions (you only posted 2) have nothing to do with BeOnPush
using newly invested funds to pay off existing investors.
295.
#295
K. Chang
Jun 16th, 2016 at 10:28 am (Q)
296.
#296
Jon Walsh
Jun 18th, 2016 at 12:41 am (Q)
I know precisely what RTB is, know senior directors at dozens of companies in the
UK, US, and Eastern Europe that are involved in RTB (advertisers, agencies, RTB
tech businesses etc.), and I can guarantee you that BeonPush is not in the space.
Even the way that BOP describes how they use affiliates funds simply cant be true.
For claritys sake, YOU CANNOT BUY A POSITION IN RTB ITS REAL TIME FFS!
Im very happy to have an open conversation with anyone from the company, and
Im even happy to introduce them directly to advertisers that spend $millions per
month on RTB. They will never do it, as they arent able to have a conversation with
someone who actually understands it.
297.
#297
James
Jun 18th, 2016 at 3:15 am (Q)
made no RTB advertising on weekends, or why pay Beonpush only from Monday to
Friday . :-))), are you thinking what to ..:-)
It is a Ponzi system
298.
#298
Daniel
Jun 20th, 2016 at 1:20 am (Q)
Hello there, Ive read alot of comments now You know what banks (Ozedit:
Offtopic derail attempt removed)
Oz Ive read around 10000 times now that Beonpush is a ponzi, because they use
the money of new investors, to pay out others. Your missing a proof that RTB is
generating profit, which I can understand. This is secret company data to not share
their customers with others which I can understand.
@Jon Walsh I think Beonpush is just using this description buy positions because
most of the people are stupid and wouldnt even understand, its just for the ease.
Anyways, Beonpush is ONLY their investment sector, they work with companies
investing in RTB, they dont do it themselves. Thats why Beonpush is not named
directly in combination with RTB.
Kind Regards.
299.
#299
Daniel
Jun 20th, 2016 at 1:26 am (Q)
Oh Oz I forgot just to get your things right. Beonpush is generating 130% 150%
only for premium members (who actually invest into the company pay
25$/month).
The calculation behind their system is very good in my opinion.
You never get a fixed value every day. It is between 1% and 1,8% most of the days,
depending on how their trading worked on this day.
(Ozedit: Offtopic derail attempt removed)
300.
#300
Oz
Jun 20th, 2016 at 6:32 am (Q)
@Daniel
Your missing a proof that RTB is generating profit, which I can understand. This is
secret company data to not share their customers with others which I can
understand.
Advertising doesnt pay a fixed (1% to 1.8%) daily ROI like BeOnPush are
advertising.
Beonpush is generating 130% 150% only for premium members (who actually
invest into the company pay 25$/month).
You never get a fixed value every day. It is between 1% and 1,8% most of the days,
depending on how their trading worked on this day.
Using newly invested funds to pay off existing investors does though
Face it, the only verifiable source of revenue into BeOnPush is affiliate investment. It
doesnt take a genius to figure out whats happening here.
301.
#301
K. Chang
Jun 20th, 2016 at 7:02 am (Q)
Daniel: Beonpush is generating 130% 150% only for premium members (who
actually invest into the company pay 25$/month)
And the source of this information is Beonpush, which is NOT verifiable via a thirdparty.
Other words, youre going around in circles.
A: I earn 130-150% profit
B: Is there proof?
302.
#302
Daniel
Jun 20th, 2016 at 8:03 am (Q)
@Oz a fixed 1% to 1,8%???? i dont get it or you dont get it. Lets say I buy an
advertisment space for 100$. I sell this space via RTB (since these are auctions, its
always sold for more as in every auction house) for 140$ Ive a profit of 40$.
The next day the same auction goes out for 130$ so ofcourse there are
differences daily. It even went down to 0,8% 1 day on 100$ pack.
@K. Chang I dont understand your nonsense. 130% for normal members, 150% for
premium members. I started with 150$ on Beonpush and after ~2 months I had 13
people in my direct line and 900$ profit (which I completely reinvested).
Now I paid out my 150$ so all I get is +++ Anyways, there are dozens of people
who can proof that you get your 130%. But its not the topic here, the big question is
if there is a product (RTB) behind Beonpush or not.
I ve seen a live video of Sergej Heck sitting in a presentation about RTB from
Beonpush. Ofcourse you can say the video is fake.
@Oz you know the falsification? Its the only truth. So if you want your theory
verified, falcificate it. Give me a proof that its a scam. You cant. Can we proof its
not a scam? How could we?
So ofcourse we are turning circles here, no?
Kind Regards
303.
#303
Oz
Jun 20th, 2016 at 8:09 am (Q)
@Daniel
Lets say I buy an advertisment space for 100$. I sell this space via RTB
Thats a cute story.
1. BeOnPush has nothing to do with RTB until you can independently verify that it
does.
2. Advertising does not pay consistent ROIs daily. Investments do, advertising does
not.
3. If BeOnPush was able to consistently generate fixed ROIs from advertising, theyd
have no reason to solicit thousands of dollars of investment from affiliates.
Go to a bank, take out a small loan for $1000 and retire as the richest people on the
planet in a few years. Yet here we are
you know the falsification? Its the only truth. So if you want your theory verified,
falcificate it. Give me a proof that its a scam.
The only verifiable source of revenue entering BeOnPush is affiliate investment.
Ergo new affiliate investment is being used to pay off existing investors.
Now its your turn to provide proof BeOnPush has anything to do with
advertising.
304.
#304
Whip
Jun 20th, 2016 at 8:55 am (Q)
Daniel: Give me a proof that its a scam. You cant.
the onus is on you to prove its legit as you are asking people for money. you cant
as its a scam.
305.
#305
K. Chang
Jun 20th, 2016 at 9:06 am (Q)
306.
#306
mlmpro
Jun 20th, 2016 at 1:22 pm (Q)
It seems everyone says a lot about how beonpush can be a ponzi and a scam but no
one dare say it is for sure.
307.
#307
littleroundman
Jun 20th, 2016 at 1:35 pm (Q)
mlmpro: It seems everyone says a lot about how beonpush can be a ponzi and a
scam but no one dare say it is for sure
It would be a pretty poor fraudster who left evidence laying around the net for
anyone to find.
Tell you what, why dont you sell the farm, access your parents savings and cash in
your life insurance and invest the lot in BeOnPush ???
Dont believe what youre being told ????
Fine, go ahead and sink your money into BoP.
Theres no compulsion to believe a word that has been said
Believe or dont believe, no one here is going to lose money, either way.
308.
#308
K. Chang
Jun 20th, 2016 at 1:49 pm (Q)
mlmpro: It seems everyone says a lot about how beonpush can be a ponzi and a
scam but no one dare say it is for sure
Theres no for sure until BoPs books are audited, but then, what fraudster would
do that?
Remember, Madoffs ponzi lasted decades, involved tens of BILLIONS of dollars, and
was signed off by multiple accountants and even routine SEC inquiries. And some
have repeated warned that Madoffs numbers dont add up.
Did we listen to him? Nope.
It is entirely up to you to believe the evidence or not. But there is no smoking gun.
The entire point of Ponzi is to NOT show you all the numbers. If its that obvious, its
not much of a scam, is it?
Instead, take the cockroach effect If theres one roach, there is bound to be
more. And how many hmmm signs have you seen? You can ignore one or two,
sure, but there are too many.
309.
#309
Oz
Jun 20th, 2016 at 1:50 pm (Q)
It seems everyone says a lot about how beonpush has something to do with
advertising but no one dare say it is for sure.
FTFY.
310.
#310
James
Jun 20th, 2016 at 2:47 pm (Q)
@Daniel, the video of Sergei Heck was a fake, and was then taken straight out
again, please where is the video now???
If beonpush is so good, why does not use any other company this model?
311.
#311
TimTayshun
Jun 20th, 2016 at 4:36 pm (Q)
I just visited Juha Pariahs FB page (#1 onecoin pimp/ $4 trillion a month top earner,
or whatever) and he appears to also be pimping this now! Telling sign??
312.
#312
Daniel Armbrster
Jun 20th, 2016 at 5:19 pm (Q)
@James the video of Sergej Heck is still online in the Dropbox. It was never
uploaded because its showing company data. They gave us the link intern with the
request to not share it. Maybe because its a scamm?
You guys might missunderstand me. Why am I here? To clarify. I would not be here if
I had no sceptisism.
The point is, it is very easy to say its scam coz it sounds unreal. Thats exactly what
you d have said to bitcoins. And yet we all would be millionaires.
@littleroundman only one very stupid would invest more than you are able to lose.
Since everything, EVERYTHING can have a crash nowdays. Even Facebook will not
last forever.
The point is. Even if it is a ponzi, it is generating profit if you participate or not. So
Im not quite sure what to do, but believe me Im very glad to have a discussion
about beonpush here.
Even though its not neutral, and yet, @Oz you dont bring up any arguments
except: fixed ROI (whatever u mean with fixed since its variable) is not possible
with adverts so its a ponzi.
Kind Regards
313.
#313
Chris Bailey
Jun 20th, 2016 at 5:27 pm (Q)
mlmpro:
It seems everyone says a lot about how beonpush can be a ponzi and a scam but no
one dare say it is for sure.
It seems to be stated quite clearly in the review.
Just in case you missed this part:
Thus the only logical explanation as to where the funds BeOnPush pay out are
sourced from is new affiliate investment, making BeOnPush just another Euro taxhaven Ponzi scheme.
314.
#314
Chris Bailey
Jun 20th, 2016 at 5:35 pm (Q)
TimTayshun:
I just visited Juha Pariahs FB page (#1 onecoin pimp/ $4 trillion a month top earner,
or whatever) and he appears to also be pimping this now! Telling sign??
I dont see that anywhere Tim. Care to share a link or screenshot?
315.
#315
316.
#316
Onecapita
Jun 20th, 2016 at 6:27 pm (Q)
TimTayshun:
I just visited Juha Pariahs FB page (#1 onecoin pimp/ $4 trillion a month top earner,
or whatever) and he appears to also be pimping this now! Telling sign??
It might be a copycat who tries to exploit Parhialas name to build a downline in
Onecoin and now in BeOnPush as well.
317.
#317
Jon Walsh
Jun 20th, 2016 at 7:05 pm (Q)
YOU, I, ANYONE CANNOT BUY ADVERTISING SPACE FOR $100 (OR ANY AMOUNT)
AND THEN RESELL IT VIA RTB.
Apologies for the caps, but I need to shout this point. Online ad space is ephemeral,
as it is all boils down to ad impressions.
318.
#318
Chris Bailey
Jun 20th, 2016 at 7:14 pm (Q)
Thanks MLM Broken Model.
319.
#319
tmfp
Jun 20th, 2016 at 8:17 pm (Q)
Two different accounts:
facebook.com/juha.parhiala is the real one
facebook.com/juha.parhiala.1 is the referral scammer siofelcapo
320.
#320
Oz
Jun 20th, 2016 at 9:39 pm (Q)
@Oz you dont bring up any arguments except: fixed ROI
False. BeOnPush is a Ponzi scheme because it uses newly invested funds to pay off
existing investors.
You cannot show any evidence advertising has anything to do with BeOnPush. The
only verifiable source of revenue is affiliate investment, ergo ROIs are paid with
invested funds.
321.
#321
James
Jun 22nd, 2016 at 6:49 pm (Q)
is it true Beonpush stopped the payouts! allegedly because too many partners had
multiple accounts?
200000 accounts and apparently only 35,000 partners, funny .
322.
#322
Daniel
Jun 24th, 2016 at 1:59 am (Q)
@James too many people abused the system yep. So why would a ponzi or
scam have troubles with this?
They stopped the payouts and transfers until friday or sunday.
I dont know where you guys get your information from.
1. There are alot more than 200.000 Accounts.
2. 50.000 different payments registered though.
THAT DOES NOT MEAN there are only 35.000 or 50.000 partners Several people
manage the accounts of their investors.
People leave too much shitstorm and spread rumors because they are not informed.
Funny
323.
#323
James
Jun 24th, 2016 at 4:19 pm (Q)
@Daniel:
here are the information from the CEO Hey it is a Ponzi, ferki say in this Video:
now we are making adverdising with the mobilphone :-))
and before ???? ha ha ha.. not..
youtube.com/watch?v=TFGs_GFhLLI
324.
#324
Guru
Jun 25th, 2016 at 1:33 pm (Q)
Reading this I recall all the hate I got when I told people that ZeekRewards was a
ponzi. I have been getting hammered with this for months and its 100% a ponzi.
Fact is weve seen ponzis have legit businesses and still fail. A big one is PIPS from
about 12 years ago. They had offices around the world, etc..etc. Fact is unless you
can look at the books, you dont know.
Ive read reports that advertising companies have tried contacting Beonpush and
havent heard back. So, are they so successful that they dont need more business?
This thing is a ponzi, it will die. Just because its paying you or has paid you doesnt
mean that its not a ponzi.
A lot of the people in these threads online cant see the truth until it slaps them in
the face. Then they decide that anything MLM is a scam. When in reality its
because they get to emotionally attached to earning money the EASY way that they
cant accept their own screw ups.
Dont let this happen to you. Theres way to many ways to make an honest dollar,
working for it. To chase these golden dreams, that should sound to good to be true.
Now, that being said, if you like to gamble, these things can be fun, but dont BS
people and tell them its real. Its a ponzi!
This guy didnt find some secret advertising business model and decide he would
share it with thousands of strangers around the world. He could have borrowed 10k
from a bank and retired by now.
He came up with a good story, found a bunch of idiots to invest in it and hes
skimming off the top.
325.
#325
James
Jun 29th, 2016 at 2:52 am (Q)
beonpush is closed. it is over.:-)))))
326.
#326
Hrnshn
Jun 29th, 2016 at 4:51 am (Q)
They didnt close but they stopped the entire mlm system. People are not longer
allowed to recruit new people.
You can still invest up to 50k and get 150% of your investment. Doesnt look like a
ponzi anymore.
327.
#327
Oz
Jun 29th, 2016 at 7:07 am (Q)
You can still invest up to 50k and get 150% of your investment. Doesnt look like a
ponzi anymore.
HYIP scams are still Ponzi schemes.
328.
#328
James
Jun 29th, 2016 at 5:20 pm (Q)
it is over you will never get money back. that is only for winning time:-)
329.
#329
Melanie
Jun 30th, 2016 at 6:37 pm (Q)
If someone need the private address from Ferki Demirovski:
(Ozedit: removed)
Its from NOLINK: companieshouse.gov.uk/company/09714406/officers
330.
#330
Oz
Jun 30th, 2016 at 6:41 pm (Q)
That link is 404, removed the information.
331.
#331
Dmitriy
Jul 2nd, 2016 at 1:00 am (Q)
Here is his address according to beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/: 2a, Goce Delcev,
Delcevo, Trabotiviste, Macedonia (Fyr), 2325
But I dont think its real.
332.
#332
mlmpro
Jul 11th, 2016 at 9:45 am (Q)
It is realthe just had a leaders meeting there.
Beonpush is now a totally private program accepting NO MORE members its
profits are totally self generated and pays out for life.
What kind of a ponzi is that ??
333.
#333
Oz
Jul 11th, 2016 at 10:06 am (Q)
What kind of a ponzi is that ??
One that still has a sign up page on their website and still uses newly invested funds
to pay off existing investors.
Weve been hearing about accepting no more members for months. Smoke and
mirrors, smoke and mirrors.
334.
#334
335.
#335
Scamsniffer
Jul 21st, 2016 at 8:09 pm (Q)
That is it for BeonPush, one more Scam is game over. Ferki explains in a video (on
youtube 19.07) they lost over 100 mio $ .. I hope this guy ends up in Jail.
336.
#336
James
Jul 21st, 2016 at 8:29 pm (Q)
337.
#337
Oz
Jul 21st, 2016 at 8:49 pm (Q)
Ferki explains in a video (on youtube 19.07) they lost over 100 mio $
This is called an exit strategy.
They didnt lose anything, the money is sitting in an offshore account somewhere.
338.
#338
Scamsniffer
Jul 21st, 2016 at 11:22 pm (Q)
@Oz Of course that is how they put the money in their pockets .. Actually the video
has been taken off youtube just moments ago It was also available on the
Facebook Group: BeonPush WinGroup.
339.
#339
James
Jul 21st, 2016 at 11:32 pm (Q)
ok, clear.. the poeple have no chance to get the money back crazy.
But ferki promise, that hey pay back the money to the people who will it:-)
340.
#340
Scamsniffer
Jul 22nd, 2016 at 12:19 am (Q)
@ James you are right ..unfortunately for all the believers and investors but that
money is gone.
Sad for the people but it is a life experience for them to be carful with all these onlin
e. scams Ferki has to be very careful because there have been many Russian
Investors and they do not joke if one screws them
341.
#341
Terrence B
Jul 22nd, 2016 at 3:10 am (Q)
mlmpro:
For the 2 that claim that beonpush is a scam. I would like you to answer just 3
questions.
What have you learned in just over a month since you posted that comment?
It really was one the whole time!!
342.
#342
343.
#343
James
Jul 24th, 2016 at 1:56 am (Q)
Melanie whats means this that the company is from the goverment cloesd?
344.
#344
Mr. Czech
Jul 24th, 2016 at 7:48 am (Q)
@James:
No. It means, that Ferki Demirovsky has packed all his bags with participants money
and is ready to fly away.
There is an application to close down (strike off) the company BeOnPush from UK
companies register. An application was filled and signed by Ferki himself.
345.
#345
Be Son
Jul 27th, 2016 at 7:05 pm (Q)
The game actually ends.
346.
#346
Chipo
Oct 19th, 2016 at 9:04 pm (Q)
I had an account with beonpush and was sent a refund form.
I filled it in and sent it back in September but up to now I havent heard from them.
How can I get my refund back?
347.
#347
littleroundman
Oct 20th, 2016 at 12:03 am (Q)
Chipo:
I had an account with beonpush and was sent a refund form.
I filled it in and sent it back in September but up to now I havent heard from them.
How can I get my refund back?
Unless an agency intervenes and a receiver is appointed, your chances of obtaining
a refund are negligible.
Youve been defrauded and the money is gone.
348.
#348
Roger
Oct 27th, 2016 at 9:32 am (Q)
What can be done to report beonpush efficiently?
They stole a lot of money and kicking out complaining members form social media,
a group should be made, this ferki demerivoki must be in jail!
349.
#349
Oz
Oct 27th, 2016 at 10:04 am (Q)
Local authorities are your best bet. Dont expect much though, this Ponzi went
under some time ago.
350.
#350
Gary Wood
Oct 27th, 2016 at 11:42 am (Q)
yeah I think the whole refund thing was just a TIME STALLER/ SAVER for the
company.
they blocked my account and have no response to me regarding why???
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