16.

Documentation for Samuel Clarence Older

(1837 to Btw 1870 and 1896)
father of James Grant Older
(Mar 14, 1864 to Mar 31, 1946)
Samuel Clarence Older was born in 1837 in Ontario, Canada, the son of George
Older and Sarah (Gilbert) Older.(1) George Older of Wisborough Green, Sussex,
England, immigrated to Ontario, Canada, in 1835 with his wife and two children as part
of what became known as the Petworth Immigration Scheme.(2) Samuel Older and
Thomas Older, assumed to be brothers of George Older, had boarded the ship England
at Portsmouth, England, on May 8, 1832, and disembarked on June 15, 1832, in Quebec,
Canada.(3) Samuel and Thomas Older proceeded to Athens County, Ohio.(4)
The following information was provided by the authors of English Immigrant
Voices immediately after the Sarah (Redman) Knight passage:

"Some of the emigrants who went to Knight's settlement at Nelsonville

must have reported unfavourable. The Hampshire Telegraph of 3 March 1834
printed part of a letter from Knight explaining that the first part, which was
omitted, contained Knight's refutation of 'malignant charges' made by people
who had emigrated from Wisborough Green and Pulborough.
James Knight died on 26 August 1836 of a 'nervous fever.' Sarah remarried
and out lived her second husband. She spent her last years in Athens County,
recording in 1863 that she was the last surviving member of the party of 1821
immigrants from England still living there. She continued to write in her journal
until July 1867, one month before she died."(5)

George Older, the father of Samuel Clarence Older, was born about 1804 in Sussex,
England. Sarah Gilbert, the mother of Samuel Clarence Older, was the first of two wives
of George Older. George Older and Sarah Gilbert also were the parents of Emily Older,
born October 11, 1833, in England, George Older Junior, born September 13, 1835, in
England (1870 Illinois census lists Canada - son Samuel Older was born 1864 - may be
same Samuel C. Older in 1930 Illinois census - Illinois Masonic Home - George Older
(First_Last), Regiment Name 135 Illinois Infantry (100 Days, 1864), Side Union,
Company K, Soldier's Rank_In Pvt., Soldier's Rank_Out Pvt., Alternate Name,
Notes, Film Number M539 roll 68),
First husband of Alice ? who married George Older after death of Lewis N.
Bissonett: American Civil War Soldiers Record about Lewis N Bissonett, Name: Lewis
N Bissonett, Enlistment Date: 08 November 1862, Distinguished Service:
DISTINGUISHED SERVICE, Side Served: Union, State Served: Minnesota, Unit
Numbers: 1143 1143, Service Record: Enlisted as a Private on 08 November 1862 at the
age of 21, Enlisted in Company I, 1st Cavalry Regiment Minnesota on 08 November
1862. Received a disability discharge Company I, 1st Cavalry Regiment Minnesota on
07 May 1863.

Name: Lewis Bissonett, Enlistment Date: 22 March 1865, Distinguished Service:

DISTINGUISHED SERVICE, Side Served: Union, State Served: Minnesota, Unit
Numbers: 3385 3385, Service Record: Enlisted as a Private on 22 March 1865 at the age
of 23, Enlisted in Company F, 1st Battn Infantry Regiment Minnesota on 22 March 1865.
Mustered out Company F, 1st Battn Infantry Regiment Minnesota on 14 July 1865.

1920 United States Federal Census Record about Alice G Bissonett, Name: Alice G
Bissonett [Alice G B??neth], Age: 29years, Estimated birth year: abt 1891, Birthplace:
Minnesota, Race: White, Home in 1920: Portland, Multnomah, Oregon, Sex: Female,
Marital status: Single, Relation to Head of House: Daughter, Able to read: Yes, Able to
Write: Yes, Mother's Birth Place: Canada, Father's Birth Place: Canada, Image: 769.

Mary Jane Older born 1840 in Ohio, and Frances "Fanny" Elizabeth Older born
August 12, 1843, in Ohio.(6)
The second wife of George Older was Deborah (Boyer) Nye, whom he married
on October 2, 1847, in Ross County, Ohio.(7) George Older and Deborah Nye were the
parents of Margaret Louisa Ann Older born May 1849, in Cincinnati, Ohio.(8) George
Older died July 3, 1849, in Cincinnati, Ohio.(9) Deborah A. (Older) Nye then married
William Price on September 10, 1854.
Emily Older, the older sister of Samuel Clarence Older, married Andrew Jackson
Arrington on August 28, 1853, in Ross County, Ohio.(10) Andrew and Emily and their
family were living in Oregon in 1870.(11) The obituary of Emily (Older) Arrington gives
a good summary of her life and family:(12)

Death Closes Long Life of Woman Here

After 92 years of active life, Mrs. Emily Arrington, resident of Portland for
40 years died Sunday at the home of her daughter, Mrs. M. A. Teuscher. No 1303
Wilbur Street. The body is at the J. P. Finley & Sons parlors awaiting funeral
arrangements.
Mrs. Arrington reached the 92 year mark on October 11, her hair was only
partially gray and she was exceptionally active until three days ago, when she
became ill with la grippe, finally succumbing to the ailment.
She was born near London, England, in 1833, and when 3 years old,
moved to Canada with her parents. They later moved to Ohio, where she spent
her girlhood days, and was married to Andrew J. Arrington when only 18.
They newly married couple were among those included in the rush westward for
gold, and in 1861 they arrived in Placerville, Cal. Five years later they came by
the overland route to Oregon, settling near Woodburn. Following her husband's
death shortly afterward, Mrs. Arrington came to Portland and spent her last
years here.
Mrs. Arrington is survived by her four children: E. J. Arrington, Mrs. L. H.
Wells and Mrs. M. A. Teuscher, both of Portland and Mrs. Emma Kirkham,
Marysville, Cal.

After the death of George Older in 1849 from cholera, his children were split-up
and each child was sent to live in a different household.(13) Samuel Clarence Older is
mistakenly listed as Solomon Older in the 1850 U. S. Census for Ohio, Ross County,
Chillicothe Scioto Township. He is listed as age 12, male, and born in Ohio. He appears
in the household of John J. Bangs who was a jeweler.(14)
Emily Older was sent to live with her uncle, Thomas Older.(15) Frances Elizabeth
Older was sent to live with a Parker I. Gardner, age 36, a merchant, and his wife
Elizabeth H. Gardner.(16) Upon the death of Elizabeth H. Gardner in the 1850s, Frances
Older received real estate that was listed as worth $6,000 in the 1860 Ohio census.(17)
Louisa Ann Older was living in the household of her mother's parents, Richard and
Rachael Boyer, according to the 1850 census record.(18) Mary Jane Older was living in
the household of her aunt Mary who had married John Burberry.(19) No census record
was found for George Older Junior in the 1850 census.
Samuel Clarence Older married Jane Eliza Baird on August 14, 1856, in Ross
County, Ohio.(20) Jane Eliza Baird was born August 10, 1835, in Ohio.(21) Jane Eliza
Baird appears to have been an only child. She possibly was a daughter of a James Baird
Junior and perhaps an Eliza Anderson. A James Baird was born July 28, 1802, in Adams
County, Ohio, and died November 19, 1872, in Minonk, Woodford County, Illinois.(22)
An Eliza Elizabeth Anderson was born in 1805 in Adams County, Ohio. A marriage
between a James Baird and an Eliza Anderson took place on July 16, 1827, in Adams
County, Ohio.(23) There is a cemetery record in Minonk, Woodford County, Illinois, for
a James Baird and an Eliza Baird.(24) The 1870 census for Woodford County, Illinois,
lists a James Baird, age 68, without occupation, born in Ohio, and an Eliza Baird, age 66,
born in Pennsylvania.(25) Living with them was an Inger Stephenson who was age 18,
female, white, a school teacher, born in Illinois, and who attended school during the
year.
Samuel Clarence Older and Jane Eliza Baird were the parents of Rose Older and
James Grant Older.(26) Anna Rosebelle Older was born July 26, 1862, in Illinois. She
married John H. Butner, February 27, 1883, in Vermilion County, Illinois.(27) She died
February 28, 1942. James Grant Older was born March 14, 1864, in Mechanicsburg,
Illinois, and died March 31, 1946, in Dearborn, Michigan. He married Wilhelmina
(Minnie) Fredericka Lorenz May 21, 1885, in Danville, Vermilion County, Illinois.(28)
Samuel is listed as S. C. Older in the 1860 Illinois Federal Census for Sangamon
County, Mechanicsburg Post Office. His age is shown as 23, place of birth is given as
Canada, and his occupation is that of broom maker. Also residing in the household are
J. E. Older, age 24, who was born in Ohio, and Jane's parents, James and Eliza Baird.
Albert (Myers in 1850 census) Baird and Henrietta Drury also are listed in the
household. Henretta Drury was born about 1843 or 1844 in Oho. She is listed in the 1850
Ross County, Twin Township, Ohio census in the William Drury household.(29)
There was an 1862-1863 Military Census of Sangamon County, Illinois, and
Samuel C. Older was listed in that census. His age appears as 25, a farmer, and his
nativity is listed as Canada. For the list in which Samuel appeared, there were 377 men
enrolled and 121 already had volunteered for military service. Samuel appears to never
have been in the military during the American Civil War.(30)
James Baird and his wife Eliza, the parents of Eliza (Baird) Older, Samuel's wife,
do not appear in the 1870 census along with Samuel and Eliza Older. Research has not
been able to find them in Sangamon County, Illinois, after the 1860 census nor
anywhere else. It is possible the parents of Eliza (Baird) Older, wife of Samuel C. Older,
are the James and Eliza Baird who are buried at Minonk, Illinois. Whether the James
and Eliza Baird who are buried in Minonk, Illinois, are the relatives of Samuel and Eliza
Older has not been proven.
The 1870 Illinois Federal Census, Vermilion County, Danville Township, dated
July 4, by James A. Davis, lists Samuel Older as age 34, a broom maker who was born in
Canada. His wife, Eliza, is listed as age 36, a housekeeper born in Ohio. Two children,
Rose, age 8, born in Illinois, and James, age 6, born in Illinois, also are listed in the
household.(31)
 The 1880 Illinois Federal Census, Vermilion County, Germantown, Post Office
Danville, enumeration district 208, lists Samuel Older as age 43, a painter who was born
in Canada. Both of his parents are listed as born in England. Eliza Older is listed as age
46, born in Ohio. Her father is listed as born in Ohio and her mother is listed as born in
Virginia. Rosa, age 17, a daughter, is shown as born in Illinois, her father is listed as
born in Canada and her mother as born in Ohio. James, age 16, a son, is listed as an
apprentice painter who was born in Illinois. His father was born in Canada and his
mother was born in Ohio.(32)
The 1890 Federal Census records were lost in a fire and cannot help identify the
whereabouts of Samuel C. Older in 1890. The Peoria, Illinois City Directory lists a
Samuel Older at 2019 S. Adams, Peoria, Illinois, a painter, for the years 1890 and
1891.(33) James Grant Older, a son of Samuel Clarence and Jane Eliza Older, is listed in
the 1889 Danville, Illinois, City Directory, living in Germantown. James is listed as a
painter who worked for the Chicago & Eastern Illinois (C&EI) Railroad shops.(34)
James Grant Older later became a supervisor for the painting of trolley cars in Detroit,
Michigan.
The date of death for Samuel Clarence Older, the location of his death, and place
where he is buried is not known. He apparently died before 1896 because Jane Eliza
Baird Older married a David B. Wire on February 18, 1896, in Vermilion County,
Illinois.(35) David B. Wire apparently died by 1900 since Jane Eliza Baird Older Wire
was living in Terre Haute, Vigo County, Indiana, in the home of her son, James Grant
Older.(36) Jane Eliza Baird Older died May 3, 1914. Her place of death and place of
burial is not known.

Children (Older), born in Illinois:

i. Anna Rosebelle, born July 26, 1862; died February 28, 1942
ii. James Grant, born March 14, 1864, in Mechanicsburg; died March 31, 1946

REFERENCES
1. Samuel Older of Sussex, England and His descendants in America by Susan L. Bingler,
CGRS, June 2005, p. 7.

2 . Passenger and Immigration Lists Index 1997 Supplement by Filby. Also note the
following: Family Tree Maker CD #118, Canadian Genealogy Index, 1835, George
Older, Living, Upper Canada, Source: Petworth Emigration Scheme, Vol./page 16.
Also: George Older, aft 1835, living - Wisborough Green, West Sussex, England. (also
see England); Family Tree Maker CD #354, Passenger and Immigration Lists Index
1538-1940: Place: Canada; Year: 1835; Primary Individual: George Older; Family
Members: Wife, 2 children; Source Code: 1088:10; Source Name: Cameron, Wendy, and
Mary McDougall Maude. The Petworth Emigration Scheme: A Preliminary List of
Emigrants from Sussex and Neighboring Counties in England to Upper Canada, 1832-
1837. Toronto, Ontario: Wordforce, 1990, 25 p. Source page #16. Also: 1836, Canada,
George Older, Source Code: 4915.5; Source page #7; E-mail from
records.office@westsussex.gov.uk, Alison McCann, Assistant County Archivist, to
Curtis Older regarding Petworth Immigration Records AMM/AV.38, dated Aug 26,
2005 5:24 AM.
" Thank you for your enquiry concerning George Older and his family. One
sentence of a letter from him, written in 1836, was published in Continuation of letters
from Sussex Emigrants... written in 1836, which was published in 1837. There is also a
mention of him in a letter of 1836 to Rev. Thomas Socket, chairman of the Petworth
Emigration Committee, from William Robinson, for whom George was working. The
family are also mentioned in the journal of Sarah Knight, who had emigrated in 1821 to
Nelsonville, Ohio.
All the above are published in English Immigrant Voices, ed. Cameron, Haines,
and McDougall Maude, published in 2000 by McGill-Queen's University Press. A list of
all emigrants under the Petworth scheme, with all the information about them, and the
sources, was published in the companion volume Assisting Emigration to Upper Canada,
The Petworth Project 1832-1837, by Wendy Cameron and Mary McDougall Maude. These
volumes were the fruit of a ten year research project in Canada and England, funded by
the Jackson Foundation, the Jacksons themselves being descended from a family who
emigrated under the Petworth scheme."

3. Source: This record is compiled from "A List of Petworth Emigrants, 1832--1837," Part
Two of Assisting Emigration to Upper Canada: The Petworth Project 1832--1837 by Wendy
Cameron and Mary McDougall Maude (Montreal and Kingston: McGill-Queen's
University Press 2000). The list summarizes available sources for information on
families and individuals. See also the companion volume English Immigrant Voices:
Labourers' Letters from Upper Canada in the 1830s. 1832, England, brig, A1, 320 tons,
master Captain Lewis; superintendent J.C. Hale; sailed from Portsmouth (Spithead) 8
May 1832; arrived at Quebec 15 June 1832. In 1832, this ship was chartered by people in
Wisborough Green working very closely with the Petworth Committee. Barberry
(Burberry) Burchell French Goldring Graffam (Grantham) Hook Joyce (Joice) Mann
Older Oler (Older) Saunders Smart Smithers Southerton Thaire (Thayre) Tribe; also see
Bingler, Susan L., Samuel Older of Sussex, England, pp. 1-9.

4. English Immigrant Voices, Labourers' Letters from Upper Canada in the 1830s, edited by
Wendy Cameron, Sheila Haines, Mary McDougall Mauge, McGill-Queen's University
Press, Montreal, 2000, page 396; WSRO, MP1790, Sarah Redman, "Epitome of the Life of
Sarah Redman" (typescript copy).

5. Ibid, page 397.

6. Bingler, Susan L., Samuel Older of Sussex, England, p. 7.

7. Ross County, Ohio, marriage records, George Older and Deborah A. Nye, October 2,
1847.

8. Bingler, Susan L., Samuel Older of Sussex, England, p. 7.

9. George Older obituary, in newspaper obituary abstracts, Fairfield Trace (Winter 1990):
11.

10. Andrew Arrington entry, Ross County, Ohio, marriage index, August 28, 1853.

11. 1870 U. S. Census for Oregon, Clackamas County, Lower Molalla Precinct, Post
Office - Needy, enumerated June 27, 1870, Roll M593_1285, Page 171, Image 344, A. J.
Arrington household.
12. Unnamed paper in Portland, Multnomah County, Oregon, November 2, 1925,
obituary for Emily (Older) Arrington.

13. 1850 U. S. Census for Ohio, Fairfield County, Lancaster Township, Page 305, Roll
M432_677, Dwelling #486, Family #497, Thomas Older, age 40, male, plasturer, real
estate = $600, born in England, Mary A. Older, age 50, female, born in England, Sarah
A. M. Older, age 3, female, born in Ohio, Emila Older, age 18, female, born in England.;
1850 U. S. Census for Ohio, Ross County, Chillicothe Township, Page 58, Roll
M432_725, Dwelling #897, Family #897, Parker I. Gardner, age 36, male, merchant, real
estate = $2,800, born in Ohio, Elizabeth H. Gardner, age 35, female, born in Ohio,
Frances Older, age 6, female, born in Ohio, attended school during the year, Catharine
Smith, age 21, female, born in Germany, John J. Gardner, age 21, male, clerk, born in
Ohio; 1850 U. S. Census for Ohio, Ross County, Huntington Township, Page 313, Roll
M432_725, Dwelling #134, Family #136, Richard Boyer, age 58, male, farmer, real estate
= $1,800, born in Pennsylvania, Rachael Boyer, age 52, female, born in Pennsylvania,
cannot read and write, George Boyer, age 22, male, cooper, born in Ohio, Henry Boyer,
age 16, male, laborer, born in Ohio, Rachael Boyer, age 14, female, born in Ohio, John
Boyer, age 10, male, born in Ohio, Ann Older, age 1, female, born in Ohio; 1850 U. S.
Census for Ohio, Athens County, York Township, Page 215, Roll M432_660, Dwelling
#625, Family #635, John Burberry, age 38, male, clerk, born in England, Mary Burberry,
age 27, female, born in England, Mary J. Older, age 11, female, born in Ohio, attended
school during the year.

14. 1850 U. S. Census for Ohio, Ross County, Chillicothe Scioto Township, Page 6, Roll
M432_725, Dwelling #85, Family #85, John J. Bangs, age 41, male, jeweler, real estate =
$2,500, born in Maine, H. Augusta Bangs, age 30, female, born in Canada, Florence
Bangs, age 4, female, born in Ohio, Harry Bangs, age 2, male, born in Ohio, John W.
Bangs, age 1, male, born in Ohio, Ellen. M. Williams, age 32, female, born in Canada,
Solomon Older, age 12, male, born in Ohio.

15. 1850 U. S. Census for Ohio, Fairfield County, Lancaster Township, Page 305, Roll
M432_677, Dwelling #486, Family #497, Thomas Older, age 40, Emila Older, age 18,
female, born in England.

16. 1850 U. S. Census for Ohio, Ross County, Chillicothe Township, Page 58, Roll
M432_725, Dwelling #897, Family #897, Parker I. Gardner, age 36, male, Frances Older,
age 6, female, born in Ohio, attended school during the year.

17. 1860 U. S. Census for Ohio, Adams County, Tiffin Township, Post Office - West
Union, enumerated July 6, 1860, Roll M653_928, Page 48, Image 97, Dwelling #674,
Family #679, E. M. Debruin household, E. M. Debruin, age 30, male, white, lawyer, real
estate = $700, personal property = $800, born in Kentucky, B. C. Debruin, age 27, female,
white, born in Ohio, N. M. Debruin, age 1, male, white, born in Ohio, Francis Older, age
15, female, white, domestic, real estate = $6,000, personal property = $500,born in Ohio,
attended school during year.
18. 1850 U. S. Census for Ohio, Ross County, Huntington Township, Page 313, Roll
M432_725, Dwelling #134, Family #136, Richard Boyer, age 58, male, Ann Older, age 1,
female, born in Ohio.
19. 1850 U. S. Census for Ohio, Athens County, York Township, Page 215, Roll
M432_660, Dwelling #625, Family #635, John Burberry, age 38, male, Mary J. Older, age
11, female, born in Ohio, attended school during the year.

20. Ross County, Ohio, marriage records, Samuel Older and Jane Eliza Baird, August 14,
1856.

21. Bingler, Susan L., Samuel Older of Sussex, England, p. 35.

22. Source: "The Baird Family of Guernsey county, Ohio," 1989, by Stewart Baldwin,
Division of Mathematics - Parker Hall, Auburn University, Auburn, AL, 36849 (which
includes the following sources): Information from Jackie Little, Crestwood, KY; Baird &
Beard Families, by Fermine Baird Catchings; 1820 Census, Adams co., OH, p 82; 1830
Census, Adams co., OH, p 72; Our Pioneer Ancestors, by Henry Earle Riggs, 1942, p 34;
Note: BIRTH:etc: James Baird, b. 1764, Lancaster co., PA, d. 1831, Adams co., OH, md.
(ca 1788?), Washington co., PA, Mary Robinson, d. 1849, OH. He moved ca 1797 from
PA to Adams co., OH, settling five milees below West Union on the waters of Eagle
Creek.; NOTE REGARDING CHILDREN: "Baird & Beard Families" by Fermine Baird
Catchings also gives the two children James Baird, b. 1789, d. 1846, Blackford co., IL,
and Margaret Baird, b. 1791, d. 1848. Both of these seem incorrect. There are other
difficulties with the children of James Baird besides these two, and this list should be
considered tentative. ! source; L.J. BAIRD "BAIRD Genealogy" by Stewart BALDWIN,
pub 1989...he moved ca 1797 from PA. to Adams co., OH., settling five miles below
West Union on the waters of Eagle Creek. There is some question as to the correctness
of the list of children of James BAIRD and Mary ROBINSON.

Name: Mary BAIRD

Birth: 28 DEC 1806 in West Union area,Adams Co., OH
Death: 7 MAY 1840 in ,Adams prob, OH prob
Father: James BAIRD b: 1764 in Bart/Strsbrg twp,Lancaster Co., PA
Mother: Mary ROBINSON b: ABT 1767 in ,Washington maybe, PA prob
Marriage 1 James ANDERSON b: ABT 1803 in ,Adams maybe, OH maybe
Married: 2 JUN 1831 in ,Adams Co., OH

Name: Margaret BAIRD

Birth: 1808 in West Union area,Adams,OH
Death: 1 MAY 1853 in ,Adams,OH
Father: James BAIRD b: 1764 in Bart/Strsbrg twp,Lancaster Co.,PA
Mother: Mary ROBINSON b: ABT 1767 in ,Washington maybe,PA prob

23. Marriage record for James Baird and Eliza Anderson, July 16, 1827, Adams
County, Ohio. (TO DO)

24. TO DO - Minonk Illinois Cemetery, Bairds?

25. 1870 U. S. Census for Illinois, Woodford County, Ward 4 City of Minonk,
enumerated June 7, 1870, Roll M593_295, Page 380, Image 278, Dwelling #46, Family
#41, James Baird, age 68, male, white, without occupation, real estate = $1,000, personal
property = $1,600, born in Ohio, male citizen of the U. S. over age 21, Eliza Baird, age 66,
female, white, keeping house, born in Pennsylvania, Inger Stephenson, age 18, female,
white, school teacher, born in Illinois, attended school during the year.

26. 1870 Illinois Federal Census, Vermilion County, Danville Township.

27. Vermilion Co., Illinois, marriage records, Volume 5.

28. Vermilion County, Illinois, marriage records.

29. 1860 Illinois Federal Census for Mechanicsburg, Sangamon County.

30. 1862 and 1863 Military Census for Sangamon County, Illinois, page 68, Town of
Mechanicsburg, County of Sangamon, Illinois, page 73, #256. Older, Samuel C. is listed
as age 25, born in Canada, a farmer. Page 76 shows the total Enrolled for the town as
377 with 121 already Volunteered for service. The census probably listed male citizens
between the ages of 18 and 45.

31. 1870 Illinois Federal Census for Danville Township, Vermilion County.

32. 1880 Illinois Federal Census for Germantown, Vermilion County, (Danville Post
Office).

33. Peoria, Illinois Directory, 1890 Record, Name: Samuel Older, Location 2: 2019 S.
Adams, Occupation: painter, Year: 1890, 1891, City: Peoria, State: IL.

34. Danville, Illinois, City Directory, 1889, Jas. Older.

35. Jane Eliza Baird Older Entry, Vermilion County, Illinois, marriages, volume 3, page
100.

36. 1900 U. S. Census for Indiana, Vigo County, Terre Haute, Harrison Township, Ward
#8, enumerated June 2, 1900, house number 1658, dwelling number 51, and family
number 52.
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Butner Pace Martin Monroe. _er
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Anna Older Butner Mcdonald
Roby who lived at Tabernacle
near Covington, Tennessee.
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Older (Wire) came to Tennessee
with Anna and lived with the
couple until she died from a
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1 convinced
Jewell :;tlcets, form~<! t l10 , oynote In thnt sec tion of 't he city and a n-
of the n eed ot a church Y
Th ere were s pecial ~<>rv lccs In the Mr. nnd ::\h'R. Miller are t 11e pa.r-
l f the a nnl\;<rs11ry celebra tion lleld nounced at t h E' close of that f ir"t morning, ttfternoon and f'Venlng, with P~ o f "Mrs. "I,Ve lls. wife of fue pres-
I ll dny ::!und<LY in tho c hurch. s en lce thnt we would continue a basket dinne r In the basement, a t <'n ~ past or. ~[1. \Vc!ls is ed itor o f
'fhe i'C werf' 20 p eorlc !li'Csent at pr~n.chln"" In that grove until ,old which 60 p~ople ute, and n pic nic n10 Sublett e Monitor. With tl'em
.hat tlr~t m eeting In "the grove, dur- wea ther ~nme, the ,services to be on supper was also served in t h e busc- were 11.lso :Mr. nn<l Mrs. Robert Mll-
ug whic h Rev. Purkct Shie lds, then Sunday afternoons. 1nent, t here . being n number of for- .tc r. of Mineola, I<..'\ns., and Mr. and
nn.sto1 of the Lincoln l\1. E. chutch, Bought Lumber tor Gl'IICC, mer m embers present tront out of IMrs. w~nlter P 1eedY, of Sublette,
<POI'o from a pla tfol'llt consisting of "The following week, accompa- the city, the anniversary celebration iK c.r.s . . Mr. Miller and Mrs. Preedy
lhe wa;;on be d of an old oprlng nled by S. e. Dobbins, of snintly n.lso being a h ome-coming for ->HI 'a re brother and slater of Mrs. Wells.
;ni!:Oil. memory, a class leader of Lincoln m emliers. \,. liTho J<:nnsus party came b:; a.ut omo-
(.lla ce M. :!!,. chtirch, completed In church, we went to Lamb Bros.' Rc\' J . L. l\fcGUtin Spcn1ts Jbile Saturday n ight and w11~ flpend
189->, Its er ection being due to thnt lumber yard and secured sutrlcient 'nev. J. L. McGlffln, now ot D e t h e w eek h~re, ~obert Miller, mak
mee tin"" in the g rove in 1 89 2, now h eavy lumber tor l!leal~ a n d pulpit catur, who w:ts n. pastor ot GrtLCe inz t buslnes~ trip to Detroit, ~rich.;
IIDUBes "u. m em bership of 200 and is platr.:.rm, Brother Dobbins and my- church in 1917 when (he c hurch was this w eel<.
a n important community church In self signing the note for same. All remodeled, was "the guest of honor ~l'he cl\urch was beautifully dec-
Dnnvlll<'. of the collections taken during the at all thre~ services, gave a short o rated and the rf)sular choir sang at
Sun<lny evening. Rev. R. L. Wells, remainder of the ser vlct>s In the tall;: In the mor ning and afternoon a ll three sen lces. In t h e ev ening
tlle pa stor, rea <l an lnte~estlns gl".>Ve were applied to the payment nnd d elivered the evening se_rmon, Z.lrs. 1\!a bel Wolf, former pianist,
greetlnE; from R l' alkel' l:lhl ld : of thl8 lumber blll a nd the last with nll his old time fire and now a m embe1 of St. James church,
who !s ~nov su ei lth service In the grove we 11rinounced enthusiasm. , gav e 1, R!)CClrtl p\r.no number.
Te~ c - orr--rtlllgll' w we had sold the lumber for a ~uf- Rev. R. L. VI' ells , the Jlnstor, <lc 'l' h e six p iece orchestra. !rom the
l1~iiTflftfii. m " 1 e, '!-'enn., llclent amouut to ll(!uldate the debt. livered the mor~~ng s ermon, a nd Goap~l ~rnbrrnac!e, plnyed several
wh!~h had been sent to J. H. Smith, "The llttle church was organized Revs. Thurman 1'. Shouse, al~". a special n v m b('ra at t h o even in!r ~crv
SO S Shet'ma n street. n. 1ne1]1~er of with about ten members, l-1rs. ButL former tto.stor, a~d ~lev. llf.lr. Me( ,!!- k c. :\J.rs. l'ld Burow, form er s uper-
Uncoln <:burc h when .- R c. Mr. ner Louis Blunk :<nd wlfe ~!!ifig"Tn Jln spoke. H . W. linlentlne . m e m- inten<len t or the N!)worth loag1e,
Sh ields was pa to1. . ft- number . we 1recall John T l mm ber of th e b on-d of trustees for .nn n yl had har~>"o o f th e ser v lc<>R e>f " thn.t
TJ1ta lcttm. \\ hlch gives nn lnt~ - and his wife, Het;!r:; Bredehoft and yea rs, gave a s h ott htstoL-y o f thcl s; ic~ ntG 30 o'clock sunday n ight.
estlnr: account of t h e founding of other n1ombera of the German. church n.nd Its ~truif.G"I~s. or ot R ev . T h u;mml F . Shouse ll"ave ::1
Grace churc!J. r endR as f ollows :., Metho(list and United Brethren Re v. Thomas :u . :E:w1ng, past . t t tl k Sundav evening In whc!iJ
;My D ear Brothe r Smith: First, churches giving us v.u luable assist- St J a mes M E. church ga,v~ the o:>ur 1 t L!
l~t me express my regret over tho ance. . ' . . principal talk n.t the o.tternoon serv - h e t old of ltls com ing o nco1n
".urnl!fa.. . o,f, .r.ln..'l!ll~1 .. ,?!,1 ~r:.~ :- ""!"
_.,c ''An old boyhood friend, AI Funk, ic~ dwelling upon the Import a nt church 20 years aGO, wheiJ the Grnc-e
t~ IDP"..r:: _... ..... - ~ ... don:uc...:c c&. l:O l"D'II:!t" lot. J u:at a.o rvoa; t.ho Jlla.'t;e occ~pt~d b:y C t'U.CQ church i n chu!ch " ?O.S 10 vea rs old. n.nd o f ~':.:
lice will be er ~cte<l for that eectto~ ~treet from where the church was the community. Re v. 1\ir. :>IIcGi!Tin h :w m g b een lll\stor of Grnoe chul c l .
ot D<Lmille desN-ves a church bulldd built. We sollclted o. load of brlclt gave a brief tall' n.nd Harley Col- in 1912 and In l9U, tho church
lng with rLll modern cq~ipmenthan a from every brick fact ory a1ound n'ngs, repr~scntl~g the Betban~ m or t gage l1avin~ been burnccl dur-
we feel contlden t that sue Dn nv11Je for the foundation. Louis Presbyterian c h ut c h , . a nd Mrs In;:- his lnst n nstorate. He gave th<
b ullcUng will be e rected. a Blunk gave much of his t ime in p au 1 Ho.rdenbro olt , repres~ntln . Ladles Aid socletv cred1~ !or t he
"Wo not e t h n.t you t equest tt going with me sol!citlnK f unds. the Centrnl Plll'k 1\f. E. t'i)ur~hJ hare\ worlt t h e m embe~ did In WlP
J.In eoln church took in the hu 1 n~ one Mr. Funk ~ravo us, and got the pect.ive chu rch ee.
~tntement !rom n 1e as to whn\ ~r " \Ve bought the lot, tradln~ In tbe brought greetings !rom their r e ing o ut t h e church in de btedness.

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1 .\. <!UUrtet cons lstin!l o f Mr. !Ul(
o! Gr>~Ce church n_nd the me~ be~:> 0
1brlelt !oundatl'bn in which the great I Mrs. Hardenbrool<. a forqter mem ::ltrs. J.'. E. K a gv, M1s. RoY Anderson l
tn:Lt went from Lmcoln cln nch <:On! miners' stlike rome and a tew ber of Grace church , a lso gave ' formcr !y Miss ::-le ll!e Camb rlds e, !1-IIC
drnce cln!r eh. . weeks latet the l)ebs railroad strike solo nt the afternoon servic e. R ev Mls!l Myrtle Camb1idge, r e nder ed !
Cllllll of IJ!ncoln Ctmr~~ tied up the roads and the shopa all Mr. 1\fcGitfln In IIi~ ta11t in t he after rlnulng Eeleetlon at the evenliU
'"her~ >Ire m a ny lnt.-res 1 ~1 ~ 1~- a bout Danville and we lost two- noon told of his coming to Crac sc;:y!ce, with Mrs. 'Berry a t -the pt
d tle nts that come to ~11 ?' nl 11' 1 ~ th!rde of our subscriptions, making church 11 ye!l.rs ngo and o! hi a.no. .
c:onn~ctlo n with the ongln n~t ~' conditions most <llsheartenlng. struggles to rettull<l t h e church. R oy Belang<>, r npresentlng L lncol1
'"anlza.tlon o! Gra ce c hurch.\ t was "All the ra!lrpad men who bad Letters of. g~aetlng were r<'ad a cln.. r c h brour!ht greetiue;s from t})a
1; 1 the late summer of nw f rs year gone out on strike were perma- the afternoon service by Rev. :M.1 church ' In th~ even ing and a.pp eal@l!
nt Lincoln church,~nbout~-~~~ n ently discharged and It )Oooked al- Wells !rom the f ollowing !orme to G rnce church to belt> In the ra.ls
18!>~ . that :\.l1;ii: R~.--~~' most hopeless tor the little churcl!. pasto1s and rno>mbcrs : . ln!l' of funds to build a n ..w c h.ar.cl
o! ." c . & l'!.'t ~o uctor;. "ho h~~ T~ls was the dose of 1ny second Re\. A. i\1. W ells , now d1strlct s~ 1 by talt lng .. .tlckets t o " The ~~
11 r cviousl~ h vcd ln thenel., hhorho_ ye,tr,
of Lincoln ehur~ h. but who had 10" Scrlmger was tl1e presiding elder
1894, and R ev .. George E. . L_
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moved O\'e t to the section where He !elt that, owlnw tb. mv wide e.c~ ~; . ~~i H~ u rJtJctl ~ t ti
r;mco chu rch . Is n r.w located, Lnfd quFtlntance in the c ity and the con .:J. -~.. . ide ,
~Y. ; ~ - .;'c;bn M&~lede J~
1., ,1 ,etttln ~d h <'r men1b"r~h\J> In n- dltlon In which the Gtace church ' .,_ If .
'' 1n ch ur~h C' llne "to me 11t the clol'le project round Itself that no change -~ _('~' . ~.,.. c lus, h~h has pled ged $1,0
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. nic ~ ;nd sited if I would or pastors woul~ be consider-ed
~at np~~ach. In 1 e 'gr0 ,-~. where the
. -t 0 n "ello ol hu lldln.<: n ow f<tnnds
l
~ll urc\~.
I BnUiling Fun d Raised.
"D1 David H. MoorE' editor of.
same bloc!' wil h 0race the West<!rn Christian Advocat~ und
arterwaril a bishop In our ch~rch,
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J! _':I to the buildlnJ"' fun<l.
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The Gra~? Epwo~~h lea_g ue, h
lll.edged Its k l<l m h .~pmg n uso, t .
Lm<!oln c hurc h bulldmg fu nd, !U
plans_ wer e !orm u lnt e<l at ~ s pcc i
B~{(~~~~~~~l~~~~~~e~:,~~~ee l~~~~vl~Y.s
i1m-oT1T ,.prin;; wagon a nd
s f::~ng~~
tih'":e
l)renche~ Aervice was at the morning hour In
fl~~~n..,te 8~er~~~s f~~:~ 1
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r: ~~~:~~m;;a~~~d"v r~ght
( ';' 1
to ca r,ry o
Brief .History of Church.
to nbout twenty pnople gaJ~er:l~ the First :M. E. church, Rev. S. 71. f~ . . _ In bri ef t h e .h istorv of G rn
nround . R ei'. ,V, H. W~bst T h ornton being the pastor. The aft- ' . chm'Ch Is as f ollnws:
wuys m y pNsonul f riend and 118 ernoon service was a.t Grace church, , ' P r ch" b ,., _ , . _ . .
rrto--.,...~ (lr c.v'"1v ~fort to e~tc.nd t he JI.J'Irl the evanlna service was a.t th'! \ .( '! . en ln l)' ~ l. t.: ~~ . 1 n1 l\.c1 S l w J
f!~~~~i~~ !~~~:~~~~~~nd''t~vla.re~"~n~"nt~; ~~~~~~;~~of~ ~~~..~~~v~n~h! 1;~~un~~ ~. ~ ~ ~- ~~~~!~g~i~n}:~~ ~~pt~~~~~~~~. G~~;
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prov~c\ a loyal and h elpful friend to anoe a.t the Kimber chutch the tl- ,.,~ lnu.dmg begu n JL<n~. 1 894 ; h ulldi
~:~:t l~t~~n~~~ft~~ na~~~~l f~~::;~:~o~~ew~~~~~~\~i~n .._~,: ~~~~~~~~d b;,~::~~'iJ.l'ff.l ~f~~.;;u~!~t\
that spra ng up In
"In t hat li.ttle gath ~rlng ~tood It
rna n who t ot man~ yeas ' llad
with
a two wee-ks' revival meetil\.!1' nrtd on
the lnst night or these servlc s an
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wo rk('d a t nig ht a n<l felt lle caul~
not a ttend the servlc~s or the c hurc d
hut w h en cold weather cam e an
we wer o f otccd t o glve UJ> ~h o out-
door senlccs an d hdd 'Ihursdn y
n i~ht act\"lces in hom,?s ab~ut __~nd
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lng r e modeled In . 191 7: I"Cdcdica t
by Re\', J . J, , ) ,cGlf!ln ; m ortgoa
old m a n , with lon~r white beard, ~ burned July, 19 2 ~ . dul'ing !"lttStorn
came down the a isle to the altar , .... -, ~ or Rev. Thurma n F . S h ouse.
r nnd- protessed conversion and united ~ ' i, '\', F orm ers oa stor s of the <'h u r
with the church, making a total ot -;- . wer e : Parker Shield~. E . A. Wa.nle
exact!:; 100 Chllt' ter members s.nd
lsomf!thfngo 1\kl) ~r. l'rnnrco"" '""o 1": ' E. - ~ _Ca_r~, ~ :~ l~et:tter, J . S . Bic
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MRS. ROoy DIES:" . ~ .

.LODGE lEADER . .

End Comes at the Home ' Of

Daughter in Covington
A practical nurse, ardent Meth:l
odist, organizer for West Tennes-
see for Woodmen of the World
auxiliaries, and a. leading officer in
the Rebekah Lodge, auxiliary to
the Odd Fellows. .
These were the high points of an 1
active life which ende.d for Mrs.
Anna R. Roby at 2:30 a.m. yester-
.day at the home of her daughter,
Mrs: J. E. Culbreathllt, Covington,
Tenn. She was 81. t; "J...
Her busy lih beg n in Meehan
icsburg, Ill., where she was born,
the daughter of Jane Baird a.nd
Sam J. Older. :Moving to Danville,
Ill., 3he was educated there, a:c.t.i in
her young womu.nho>d helped or-
ganite a .Method.i&t: :.;burch there.
To Terre Ha~te~ l11d., she went,
rearing her ch ildren and beco.m mg
a practica.l nurse. Mr~. H.oby con-
tinued h~t ~.nterest in nursing al-
most thrut>l!t her iiie, and livll'lg in
the uountrv nenr Covington, ~he
did much social serviM.
She first movect to Covington t
years ago, organizing Woodmen
auxiliaries over \Vest Tennessee,
and heading the Rebekah Lodge in
Covington. She went back to Terre
Haute, remained there 12 years,
worked with R.' L. Polk & Co. com-
piling city directories thruout Indi-
ana, Dlinois and Missouri.
She returned to Covington in
1933. She had been in ill health the
last 10 years.
She leaves another daughter, Mrs.
James Harris, Indianapolis, Iq.d.;
her brother, J. G. Older, Detroit,
Mich., and three grandchildren,
Mrs. Kemmet Woo~, Covington,
Floyd E. Culbreath and Mrs. J. E.
Hamer of Memphis.
Funeral services were held at 11
aJD. today at the family residence
five miles east .of Covington, with
burial in Munford Cemetery at Cov-
ington.
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 Gran fat er Sam Older's brother, George
0 de , and wi e ry u phry 0 der,
daug ter Jennie a db other. (Au . t Mary
Q ,.. er was a cousin to cv War General
obe Le o Vi g a. ,. er brothe Ru s
was close iend of -. na Older he-, yo 'ng
and t y we e once e gaged. - est . :ie to be
a preac e r& lived near . na's fami y -may
ha e be , Grove ity, 1:inois (Geo ge R.
Older, J . a d .a ry, Sam Older,
rank 01 -er, o- ~ is Oll der, William
~~ ;1 Older, C:h arle,s _. Older,
Jeannette Alice Older (b. 1869 - Orego ,
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Mrs. 14"dnily Arrington. s
5
F\Ul'era.l servlc~s witt be held this s
afternoon at 2 o'clock from the New s
Christian church (Swedenborgtan), s
603 Spr~e street. for Mrs. Emily
s
s
Arrington, 92 \vho died at her resl- 'f
cien.ce, 1303 '\Vllbur street, Sunday T
~
morning. Mrs. Arrington cr-.'ssed the '\
plains to Calltorn~a. with her late
husband In 1861. They came t.o
Ore8on In 186 and since that t lnie
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1.

she bad been a resident of tbls stat~. !,

The later years she had spent ln -
Portland.
She is su-r'Vlved by one son and a
three daughters as follows: Mn .L. 1
H. Wells qf Portland,. E. J. Arring
ton of Warrenton, Mrs. M. A. t
Teuscbet- of Portland and Mrs. Em 1
ma Klrkha1n of Marysville", Cal.
1\l rs. Geotge Carpy

THE DA.LLES.. Or,. v. 3.- ( Spe -
cia )- ~1rs. George Carpy, forn1erly
ol La Grande, died at a local hospi-
tal this n1orntng. Mrs. Carpy is sur-
vi" e'd by her husband, who was re-
ceutly transferred to The Dalles
land office from La GrandA, nnd 1
four sons, Willard and Stan ley of '
Tacoma nd Kenneth and Harold of '
Portland. The body will be sent to
the Flnley parlors In Portland for
I Jurl~ Kr.. C&rll waa & aiate~ ot
1850 U. S. Census for Ohio, Ross County, Chillicothe Scioto Township, Page 6, Roll M432_725

Dwelling #85, Family #85

1850 U. S. Census for Ohio, Ross County, Chillicothe Scioto Township, Page 6, Roll M432_725

Dwelling #85, Family #85

John J. Bangs, age 41, male, jeweler, real estate = $2,500, born in Maine

H. Augusta Bangs, age 30, female, born in Canada

Florence Bangs, age 4, female, born in Ohio

Harry Bangs, age 2, male, born in Ohio

John W. Bangs, age 1, male, born in Ohio

Ellen. M. Williams, age 32, female, born in Canada

Solomon Older, age 12, male, born in Ohio

 . . ....
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';' :::..... . . , ... , . 'IWlJ;~A~ll_w ~m~~ m~;; IO~n'~~p ;;,
~. .. ~v '. J,_ . -- ' I oo e~'TIFY, that on the dOAJ of

IY~a-/?~:.
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1860 U. S. Census for Illinois, Sangamon County, Post Office - Mechanicsburg, Page 347,
District No. 16, enumerated August 6, 1860, by J. H. Currier
Dwelling #2467, Family #2467
1860 U. S. Census for Illinois, Sangamon County, Post Office - Mechanicsburg, Page 347,
District No. 16, enumerated August 6, 1860, by J. H. Currier
Dwelling #2467, Family #2467
S. C. Older, age 23, male, Broom Maker, personal property = $100, born in Canada
J. E. Older, age 24, female, born in Ohio, over 20 years of age and cannot read or write
James Baird, age 54, male, Butcher, real estate = $75, born in Ohio, over 20 years of age and cannot
read or write
Eliza Baird, age 58, female, born in Virginia
Henrietta Drury, age 17, female, born in Ohio
Albert Baird, age 14, male, born in Ohio
Page 68, Town of Mechanicsburg, County of Sangamon, Illinois, 1862 - 1863 Military Census
1862 and 1863 Military Census for Sangamon County, Illinois, page 73:

256. Older, Samuel C. is listed as age 25, born in Canada, a farmer.

Page 76 shows the total Enrolled for the town as 377 with 121 already Volunteered for service.

The census probably listed male citizens between the ages of 18 and 45.
1870 U. S. Census for Illinois, Vermilion County, Danville Township, Post Office - Danville,
page number 15, enumerated July 4, 1870, by James A. Davis

Dwelling 124, Family 123

Samuel Older, age 34, male, white, Broom Maker, born in Canada, male citizen of U. S. 21 years old
Eliza Older, age 36, female, white, keeping house, born in Ohio
Rose Older, age 8, female, white, born in Illinois, father foreign born
James Older, age 6, male, white, born in Illinois, father foreign born
1880 U. S. Census for Illinois, Vermilion County, Germantown, Roll T9_255,
Family History Film 1254255, Page 290D, Enumeration District 208, Image 0069

Dwelling 284, Family 305

1880 U. S. Census for Illinois, Vermilion County, Village of Germantown, Roll T9_255,
Family History Film 1254255, Page 290D, Enumeration District 208, Image 0069

Dwelling 284, Family 305

Samuel Older, white, male, age 43, married, painter, born in Canada, parents born in England
Eliza Older, white, female, age 46, wife, married, at home, born in Ohio, father born in Ohio,
mother born in Virginia
Rose Older, white, female, age 17, daughter, single, at home, born in Illinois, father born in
Canada, mother born in Ohio
James Older, white, male, age 16, son, apprentice to painter, born in Illinois, father born in Canada,
mother born in Ohio
1870 U. S. Census for Oregon, Clackamas County, Lower Molalla Precinct, Post Office - Needy,
enumerated June 27, 1870, Roll M593_1285, Page 171, Image 344

Dwelling #533, Family #529

A. J. Arrington household
1870 U. S. Census for Oregon, Clackamas County, Lower Molalla Precinct, Post Office - Needy,
enumerated June 27, 1870, Roll M593_1285, Page 171, Image 344

Dwelling #533, Family #529

A. J. Arrington household

A. J. Arrington, age 40, male, white, school teacher, personal property = $500, born in Ohio, male
citizen 21 years of age and upwards

Emily Arrington, age 35, female, white, keeping house, born in England, father of foreign birth,
mother of foreign birth,

Alice Arrington, age 14, female, white, at house, born in Illinois, mother of foreign birth,
attended school during year

Edwin Arrington, age 11, male, white, at house, born in Iowa, mother of foreign birth,
attended school during year

Fanny Arrington, age 8, female, white, at house, born in California

Emma Arrington, age 3, female, white, at house, born in California

State c;>fTiltnot
VERMILION CouNT
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'iLLINOIS ;lr~~E ~OARD OF HE~LTH.

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8, Num6er 4 gnx11n'.s lntJTri'age, ~-;: J :~
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Ma~rlm name, fl a vn~ . .. ..~ / /~ .... .d,4 - . ..
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11 A.tt lli'XI6irlhday, /f )'tars. Co/11r, . . .R,f.e, ...
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6i'rth, . ~_.-
18. Ft.~tlw-' s na11u,. -&-" 'fi'f1'~' .
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14- Motlur' s ma1il~n n~rme, ~J>V ~ L ........
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From: records.office@westsussex.gov.uk

To: curtolder@earthlink.net
Subject:Re: Petworth Immigration Records AMM/AV.38
Date: Aug 26, 2005 5:24 AM

Dear Mr. Older,

Thank you for your enquiry concerning George Older and his family. One sentence of a
letter from him, written in 1836, was published in Continuation of letters from Sussex
Emigrants... written in 1836, which was published in 1837. There is also a mention of him
in a letter of 1836 to Rev. Thomas Socket, chairman of the Petworth Emigration
Committee, from William Robinson, for whom George was working. The family are
also mentioned in the journal of Sarah Knight, who had emigrated in 1821 to
Nelsonville, Ohio.

All the above are published in English Immigrant Voices, ed. Cameron, Haines, and
McDougall Maude, published in 2000 by McGill-Queen's University Press. A list of all
emigrants under the Petworth scheme, with all the information about them, and the
sources, was published in the companion volume Assisting Emigration to Upper Canada,
The Petworth Project 1832-1837, by Wendy Cameron and Mary McDougall Maude. These
volumes were the fruit of a ten year research project in Canada and England, funded by
the Jackson Foundation, the Jacksons themselves being descended from a family who
emigrated under the Petworth scheme.

If you are unable to obtain the books, we could copy the relevant sources for you, either
by photocopying or scanning. I can let you have an estimate of the cost should it be
necessary.

Yours sincerely,

Alison McCann
Assistant County Archivist
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_REPOKr FOR CURl' OLDER

TH.ltfili PlLBS: DANIEL ALEXANDER FOX, ELIZABETH JAN~

RICKETI'S, SA.MU8L CLARENCE OLDER (remaindet crt CD#-'j)

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Curtis L. Older
618 T.tyon Place
Gastonia. NC 2805.p6o66

Dear Curt,

I\! last, J h<wea few days to play ~catch up' ' a nd aualyte theJast th~ee Iiles from
CD 113.

# 14! DANlRI, AL"EXANDER FOX

Just' for interest and narrative's s<1ke, in the first J)arap.raph you nrightjustadu
IVb<:!!'C- DanieJ and UJjza,peth weremanied .. Jf you have a ce~p_y ofthcir wedding
certifkare, it would be nice to scan it and put it with their wedding photo on yohT
c~ .

RegardinS your references for D;miel and f11mily1. #5. In this note, you oite
yQurself, which is generallv not considered acce ptableproof. You woultl need
instead. to cite tbe sout,ce fro m which you obtained the informati0n (for example,
the family Bible).
# t G: SAMUEl. CLAR.ENCEOI:OER

Hown1terestJ;1g to l.ell.l:'ll ahvttt an.cestors !'rom othO' eOUI,trlcs. ill this ease
f>amuel from Canailaand his parents from EJ1glaudJ t bave no farniHadty with
imllligration record..:; to Canada..so it iS difficult for me to-evaluate tha~ part of
Samuel's patent1 n:rigins.

'You arc fQrtunate lo have the marriagereeord fO<P S>)musl Olde~ and .Jane.Bh't:l
!41rd. Tllqvcn't see:n this reconl, so .agaf:n, it is difficult fov me ttlmowwhat is
contained in tbe document. Does-it list his parents' names? What other d&h; ls-
Listed?

i tr:ioi:l tn lind the Olders in tb.nSso ce~. an(i. !Nil$. unsuecassful. l wonder
wl1ere-theywere during that ueusus year?

Why dojioillhink thatthe S>11nUel <!;,Older in the :t890 l'emia city dll-eoto~~
migbt not bethe cotrer.t'Samucl?- ttt! is ~ib.<teti as.a painter in the 1880 C<lllStiS at~d.
the 1890 listing as a painter would s~m :to he t.QnSiste.nt. thiSiwould seem H>
place ~\\ll\.Uel Old~ as being alive a."i late a& t8yiJ aod 1891. in Peoria. Mi.gb.t tFior~
be.so)lle so;l't gf pro.bat:tt rt:,\ords t~ regarding bis fiStB,te?

Tivn:a werenlt !llany do~:ument:s'for me to cv<iluate.olber than census report:E. For

Samucl; the im.m:igration r~cords CirpW,S and the city Jire~1Ql)' oo~ies would be
gpc1d to-saan aDd add to your database. t\ls0, if would be a.good ide~ to pursue
f\lrtbencsC!aroh iu the PeGria area for the later years aotl deaths of both Samuel
.ij.l:Jd his wife.

Yon h<1ve$ 2o.oo credit remaining.

Sinoerc.ly,

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 SAMUEL CLARENCE OLDER, FATHER OF JAMES GRANT OLDER;

Curt, I had planned to do four files today. Unfortunately, I did Janes file first,
coming to some conclusions that I wouldnt have come to, if I had read Samuels
file first. Therefore, I had to do some re-evaluating. This is because some of the
data relating to Janes possible BAIRD parents were in Samuels file, instead of
Janes.

Therefore, my first suggestion is that your footnotes in Samuels file relating to

the BAIRD research, should be moved to Janes file. Here I am referring
specifically to footnotes 22, 23, 24, and 25. These relate not to Samuel Clarence
Older, but to Jane Eliza Baird, his wife, and much of the material is not in her file
at all. I will talk more about Janes parents in her file later in this report.

SAMUEL CLARENCE OLDER (#16), RE-DO FROM EARLIER FILE

In the first paragraph, you refer to a book by Susan L. Bingler, CGRS. Certified
researchers are held to a very high standard of proof and so this book, if properly
documented (and I suspect it is!), is a good source. What is her source for the
birth date and parentage of Samuel Clarence Older? This is very important in
proving Samuels parentage. (See conclusions at end of Samuels report.)

I am confused by the references to Sarah Redman Knight and her husband

James Knight. What does this have to do with Samuel Clarence Older and his
parents? What was the Petworth Immigration Scheme? What was
unfavorable? Where were the malignant charges? I think this needs more
explanation, because I couldnt figure out what was going on from the lengthy
quote.

Footnote #2 refers to some mention of George Olders family in the journal of

Sarah Knight, but doesnt say what it was. This could all be an interesting part of
Samuels file, but not knowing what the scheme was or what the mentions of
the Older family said -- makes it frustrating to the reader.

Footnote #7: Have you seen the marriage record? Does it name the parents of
George Older?

Footnote #9: Its always wonderful to locate an obituary. Does it name Georges
wife and children? What information is given in it?

Footnote #14: How is it known that Samuel and Solomon Older are the same
person? Are there any guardianship, orphan court or apprenticeship papers
available in Ross County? Certainly, the age is right, the surname is right and
the children are split among different families, but it would be very nice to have
the additional document to show how he ended up with the Bangs. (It certainly
looks like the luckiest child was Frances, who was left real estate by the family
that took her in!)

Regarding the paragraph beginning Samuel Clarence Older married Jane Eliza
Baird. Here we get into the matter of her parentage and whether there is one
set of James and Eliza Bairds or possibly two, based on cemetery records, etc.
Again, this is much better suited to Jane Elizas file. I would move it, as it greatly
distracts from the narrative about Samuel and Eliza as a married couple and
involves her parentage, not Samuels. (See Jane Elizas file for more on her
parentage issues.)

I am fascinated that Samuel Older did not serve in the military, but appeared on
the local military census. Perhaps he was not a citizen of the US at that time, still
held Canadian citizenship, and therefore was not required to serve. He is listed
as a citizen in the 1870 census. The military census does say all able bodied
male citizens, but if they tried to draft Samuel, he might have gone to court and
sworn he was not yet an American citizen and therefore been exempt. Certainly
Samuel Older favored the Northern Cause his sons middle name was Grant!

The City Directory entries (1889-1891) for Samuel and son James Grant Older
are nice additions, in the absence of the 1890 census report. How wonderful to
have confirmation of an exact street address.

CONCLUSIONS: There is a lot of circumstantial evidence for the parentage of

Samuel Clarence Older. Censuses state his birthplace as Canada and his
parents birthplaces as England. George Older and wife are on the 1835
immigration list along with two children born earlier in England. Unfortunately,
both Samuels parents were dead by the time of the 1850 census, and his name
is miswritten as Solomon Older. (John Bangs wife was born in Canada. I
wonder if she was a kinswoman of the Older family?) Samuel Olders marriage
record does not give his parents names.

Therefore, circumstances suggest strongly that Samuel Clarence Older was the
son of George and Sarah Older, but this file does not, at this point, prove it,
through any document giving his parents name.