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elementary three.
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Answers the Why of a subject.
Provides the How of a subject.
Discovering and ordering facts of reality
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valid [i.e., non-contradictory] relationships
among facts is systematic understanding.
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words, it is systematically useable knowledge
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For if you [the rulers] suffer your people to be

ill-educated, and their manners to be corrupted
from their infancy, and then punish them for
those crimes to which their first education
disposed them, what else is to be concluded
from this, but that you first make thieves [and
outlaws] and then punish them.-Sir Thomas
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(START HERE) Gene Odening interview, Part
1 The TRIVIUM Method #049 (+ video)
by TriviumEducation October 25, 2009
Tonight's show is an important one. Without it,

it's hard to build on the information presented in
the other shows. Here we begin to learn about
learning, logic, critical thinking, Hegelian
dialectics, Plato, the Trivium, the Quadrivium,
the 7 liberal arts, and many other facets of
human cognizance.
Gnostic Medias 1 Year anniversary show!
Tonights show is an important one. Without it,

its hard to build on the information presented in
the other shows. Here we begin to learn about
learning, logic, critical thinking, Hegelian
dialectics, Plato, the Trivium, the Quadrivium,
the 7 liberal arts, and many other facets of
human cognizance.
My guest is Gene Odening.

This is the story of the 3 successive stages of the
Philosophic Life which almost all of us live.
Some of us live it consciously, others, not so
much.
Genes story is one of good fortune. Early in
adolescence he was given the tools to recognize
and to pursue the Philosophic Life, which he
undertook to do, not as a vocation but as a
serious hobbyist. This is part of what the talk is
about, defining those tools and following time-
tested ways of applying them.
Gene lived through the first part, the Stage of

Preparing For Life, in a fashion which the
ancient Vedic Sages called: Learning by
grazing through the fields of the Brahma (the
Creator God), in sobriety, and with a guru. He
even had his own guru!
When he was 20 years old, he began the second

part, the Stage of Receiving From Life. This is
when he began his vocational career and started
his family life. Life was good. He and his wife
traveled many parts of the English speaking
world scouring the libraries in particular; she
reading her beloved fiction; he in the reference
and antiquarian sections. His quest was to find
out what Money was. Money is a very elusive
thing. As ghostly as it is, it takes up much of our
lifes time and energy. By happenstance, in
pursuit of its secrets, almost all other known
topics come into view for a closer examination,
including Philosophy, a treasure beyond
measure.
As he reached the age of about 56, he had the

realization that he was now in the final stage,
the Stage of Giving Back To Life. This is when
one should properly become the elder advisor,
not offering advise, but giving of it freely
when asked. It is also the time of beginning
ones journey through mentality. This is the
time of: Examining a life which has been worth
living, as the Greek sage Socrates counceled.
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Robert Paquette
February 20, 2013 at 9:49 pm
First of all, Id like to thank you for sharing this
learning system. I think its very interesting and
exciting.
But, secondly, Id like to call you out on your

use of a straw man argument to dismiss people
who believe in Jesus because of the witness of,
as you said: one book. The bible (which
means books), regardless of which version (or
perversion) you may be referencing, is
comprised of more than one book. Most
protestant bibles contain 66 (a curious number)
books; the Tyndale, 74 books; and the catholick
(spelling on purpose) 73 books. All of the books
in the Old Testament section prophesy of and or
display types and shadows of the Messiah to
come. All of the books in the New Testament
testify that Jesus (actually Yeshua) fulfilled
those prophesies. Whether or not you believe
the testimony of the 66, 74, or 73 books, is
irrelevant to me. But, that you violated the straw
man principle which you taught me, is what I
dislike. Now, I will not, as they say, throw out
the baby with the bath water, and dismiss
everything you say, thereby being guilty of an
Ad Hominem Tu Quoque fallacy again, thanks
to you.
Keep up the good work, and thanks again.
Robert
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Adam
December 20, 2014 at 9:50 pm
Thank you. seriously thank you.
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daniel.tarbuck@yahoo.com
January 2, 2015 at 9:48 am
Liked your talk regarding straw man, just
wanted to ask if you have read up on gerald
massey a hetrodox poet and auther of light of
this world?
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Sandy Brown
February 6, 2015 at 11:35 am
This is a reply to the presentation on the trivium
rather than to the last comment.
Of course it can help people to consider the way

in which they think and it may help them think
and read more critically up to a point.
However, if we are to commit deeply to critical

thinking then the trivium itself must be brought
into question, to which end I would like to make
the following points:
1. You spoke about paradoxes and the natural/

man made distinctions and said
that all man made knowledge is contradictory. Is
this all man made knowledge including the
trivium? Or is the trivium a miraculous
exception to this rule?
2. If part of the value of the trivium is that it

reflects how the mind works (a grossly
reductive account of how the mind works, some
might say), then what is the point? If that is
actually how the mind work, then we apply the
trivium whether we like it, know it, or not
because it is how the mind works. If it is how
the mind works, then why arent we already all
on the same page? (To use your phrase).
3. You make an assumption that nature is not
contradictory how could you possibly know
this? Isnt this another man made view (and
therefore contradictory)
4. If we apply logic to remove contradictions

and thereby arrive at some kind of truth of a
subject are we not ignoring part of the truth of
the subject? Who is to say that the contradiction
is not part of the truth of the subject? Who is to
say that contradiction is not the truth of every
subject? You come close to saying this.
4. Aristoltle is probably the most influential

thinker in western history but philosophy has
moved on. The work of Russell (after Frege)
proves that Aristotles logical syllogism is
actually wrong because he confused subjects
and predicates. Then Russells own
attempt at logical elaboration runs into its own
paradoxes.
5. Kants Critique of Pure Reason changed
philosophy addressing a similar question of how
the mind works in a much more sophisticated
way, i.e. We need to understand the mind works
and what it can know because this will
determine the limits of possible knowledge/
what kind of knowledge is possible (see Dan
Robinsons lecture How is nature possible).
6. Hegels dialectic is an account of how reason

works within this Kantian framework.
7. Genealogy (Nietzsche), deconstruction

(Heidegger/Derrida) and discourse/ power
knowledge (Foucault)
all look at knowledge as originating in
discursive, historical, socio political contexts.
Truth, rationality, logic etc themselves are
features of western philosophical discourse and
not truths as such.
8. Knowledge does not exist outside of a

context. Where is context in Aristotles trivium?
What is Aristotles context?
9. There seems to be an assumption underlying

all of this that it is possible to know the truth by
applying a systematic
approach to knowledge, are you not making the
assumption 1. That truth exists rather than being
a function of human discourse? 2. That the
individual human agent is able to access these
truths and come to something approximating
perfect knowledge? Are we perfectly permeable
knowledge membranes that can understand the
universe in which we are embedded while
simultaneously being able to understand
ourselves from the outside? Would not we have
to be able to understand our own subjectivity
and how this conditions our own knowledge?
How is this possible?
10. Another way of thinking about knowledge is

simply to make sure that as far as possible
opinions are supported by facts, but then we run
into another paradox that we are prone to
select facts according to our pre existing
interpretation.
Maybe the truth of human discourse as you

say yourself lies in the contradictions, not the
elimination of these contradictions.
Contradictions are indeed part of our reality.
7.
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James
March 7, 2015 at 2:20 am
3/6/2015
Jewish thought is criticized on the internet a lot
on the basis of this notion
of context. While the traditional culture of
Europe had ethics based on what was right or
true, and implicit in this is the knowledge or
belief that one can know what is morally or
factually right or true.
With the ever increasing dominance of Jewry
over culture in America and the West, the
Jewish notions, sometimes ascribed to an
Eastern mode of thought, of right and true are
emerging as prominent and are contrary to the
traditions of the West in this notion that what is
right depends on the context. For Jewry, or so I
have read, the question is always What is good
for the Jews? i.e. what favors Jewish interests.
This has led to attempts by organized, powerful
Jewry to determine what is right by a consensus
of agreement among the preeminent Jews
concerned with a given question.
By this manner, Jewry, once fierce and vocal
proponents of the Constitutionally protected
God given right to freedom of speech because it
served Jewish interests during the period of
secret, and open, scheming and plotting to push
for a communist style of political organization
to be imposed on the West including America.
Also, this belief that what is true is relative to
context has led to a falsification of various
academic disciplines such as cultural
anthropology and history. Some power group
determines the truth. a truth that is deemed good
for the Jews, and that truth is vigorously
enforced, and dissenters ejected, and perhaps
punished.
Instructive to consider is the elderly Jewish
couple in Chicago who a few years ago wrote a
book, which was published , in which their love
story in the midst of a putative Nazi
concentration camp garnered good
financial reward and fame; he even was brought
onto the Oprah show. When it was exposed that
his story was a fraud and the events recounted
were false, he insisted, even while
acknowledging that the story was
a fabrication, that for him the story/the book,
was true. He appeared quite sincere in this
protestation.
[This filmed interchange with a TV reporter is
on the internet.]
Perhaps Jewish philosophy and European
generated philosophy are like apples and
oranges and are best examined and understood
separately.
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Bo Nilsson
August 2, 2016 at 8:03 pm
Good one!
But are we good for the world?
In any manner of thinking.
/bo
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jp
November 10, 2015 at 3:29 pm
at least about 1, he said that man-made
knowledge CAN have contradictions, not that it
always does. so nature cant have contradictions
(cus it is what it is), and mans thoughts can
(cus we have to think about it first, creating an
opportunity to make a mistake).
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TriviumEducation
December 19, 2015 at 7:07 am
The trivium is how we identify contradictions
and do our best to always self correct and
identify such situations. Its being ignorant of
such things were the issue comes in. There are
no contradictions in nature.
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H. Hanson
June 1, 2016 at 12:58 am
This is a very superficial attempt at delving into
areas that demand many years of study. The
Trivium is a time-tested system of freeing the
mind of certain shackles that hinder it from
working efficiently and effectively. Grammar is
the study of language, and its mastery enables
us to understand what we read well and to
communicate with the least amount of
confusion. Language does not have the
precision of the symbolic language of numbers;
hence, language must be mastered to a high
degree to be as precise at possible. For instance,
many words today are misused due to a loss of
nuance. I could give many examples, but
perhaps a simple one is the difference between a
republic and a democracy. The Founding
Fathers of America understood the distinction,
but it is lost on most people today. Logic has
two branches: formal and material. Both are
important and both necessary, but today most
people who study critical thinking at school
receive only a welter of so-called fallacies. The
mind needs to be disciplined in order to
function, just as a child needs to learn to walk,
talk, and take care of itself to be independent.
Russell never denied the effectiveness of Term
Logic, despite his helping to create
Propositional Logic so popular in schools today.
The truth is, however, that our entire legal
system is based upon classical logic. Beyond a
reasonable doubt means just that: reasonable is
what the intellect accepts as reasonable. All of
us have intuitive knowledge of what is or is not
reasonable; logic simply enables us to avoid the
snares of loose thinking. Finally, rhetoric is at
the means of persuasion afforded people who
want to argue intelligently their points as
opposed to fighting to prove that might makes
right. Hence, this was the most important
subject in the classical periods of Greece and
Rome, two civilizations that believed in the rule
of law, at least for themselves.
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M. Ali
April 2, 2017 at 10:28 pm
Thank you for commenting Sh. Hamza.
Youre the reason Im aware of the trivium.
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Nini dePenne
March 14, 2015 at 6:34 pm
Beautifully said! Thank you, Robert, for putting
such clear thought into your response. I, too, am
concerned by the 66 books of the Queen Jimmy
Bibbleand have wondered since childhood at
the discrepancies between the text adored and
worshipped by the scrambled Protestant masses,
the Catholicks grotto version and Tyndales.
Yeshua taught directly from Torah, whilst
referrencing well-known/respected books like
Jasher, Jubillees and Enoch no longer extant
to our current cannon of scriptures. What Bozos
thought it a bright idea to scour the scriptures of
these texts, burnt down the Library at
Alexandria, squirrelling more really excellent,
revelatory stuff to their deep underground
Vatican processing plant, are likely the same
Bozos who reduced Grammer to mean
Grades K-5 and expunged
Trivium/Qudrivium from their flocks of sheeple.
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Richard Webb
January 14, 2016 at 6:10 pm
Thanks for confirming my misgivings. I was
looking for some guidance on the philosophical
worldview undergirding this author.
Science is a search for TRUTH. Unless it is
built on Gods word, the Bible, they labour in
vain that build it.
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TriviumEducation
January 16, 2016 at 11:59 pm
You seem to make a lot of circular arguments
rather than learning and studying the material. It
seems youre only looking for confirmation of
what you already believe, rather than thinking.
There are lots of things that search for truth, and
not just science. The trivium is a systematic way
for keeping consistent with reality, to know and
understand the world around you. How do you
know the Bible is true? Because it says so right
here in the Bible. All of your arguments are
covered if you study the material here. This is
PART 1 you havent even gotten past the
INTRODUCTION.
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Dennis Crane
Some consider science the search and
confirmation of what works. We probably dont
know the truth of why electricity flows through
a copper wire but we know it does and how.
Truth is not a proper subject for science.
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Jeff
March 15, 2017 at 4:11 pm
Maybe you should re-listen to the part about
emotion vs. reason? Any argument over the
bible is emotional, as he clearly states. You
spent 90% of your (thanks message) showing
why you are upset.
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Michael
July 3, 2013 at 2:00 am
fascinating STUFF,
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Barry
August 23, 2013 at 1:36 am
I would add to Paquettes point that not only is
the Bible made up of multiple books, but that
those books are also written by multiple authors
from different nations, different time periods
and who spoke different languages. Despite the
varying and seemingly uncoordinated
viewpoints with distance between them in
location and time the varying accounts taken
together present a theme consistent enough to be
considered as one viewpoint, or one book as
you put it.
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Richard Webb
I would like to add to Barrys point that the
heptadic (7s) structure of the Bible and
gemetria show that nothing less than
supernatural intelligence could have written the
Bible. Google mathmetician Dr. Ivan Panin and
physist Missler for details.
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TriviumEducation
January 16, 2016 at 11:56 pm
This is the trivium website. First and foremost,
there are no contradictions in nature. When you
look into nature, you dont see books growing
off trees. When you go to a library, you dont
think all of these are written by man, but no,
this one, is written by supernaturals. Youre
appealing to magic and one authority. Please
study the trivium and the logical fallacies.
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Attila Lendvai
February 13, 2014 at 5:09 pm
Id like to call you out on your use of a straw
man [] The bible [] is comprised of more
than one book.
why does that matter? the idea is the same:

something is true because its written
somewhere, in one, or in 66 books, doesnt
matter.
But, that you violated the straw man principle

[] I will not [] dismiss everything you say,
thereby being guilty of an Ad Hominem Tu
Quoque fallacy
no, thats a fallacy fallacy: dismissing an entire

position as false because the opponent has made
a logical fallacy in one of his arguments.
an ad hominem would be you saying that hes

wrong about god because he stinks.
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john miller N.H.

May 16, 2014 at 6:07 pm
thank you very much, Im 30 and very smart
learn very much listening and following the
links of pateo.nl
http://youtu.be/R3Ovrhrf9BQ
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Robert Hass
Paquette and Barry Heres why the argument
regarding logic fallacy in support of the Bible is
actually a logical fallacy in your argument
your understanding and acceptance of the Bible
as Truth or the word of God is based
entirely on FAITH there is no irrefutable,
concrete evidence that proves the Bible to be the
TRUTH. Thats not to say that the Bible is
not the Truth or the word of God but, its
all based on ones faith to believe the Bile to be
the truth there;s no way to prove that. Faith is
NOT reason i.e. reason is the employment of
logic in the application of critical
thought/questioning. Even though I believe our
ability to reason is a gift from God reason still
does not and cannot prove the Bible to be truth
although I have faith that it is the truth with a
grain of salt. God Bless
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Robin
October 21, 2014 at 9:58 pm
Thanks for posting this information.
To Robert and Christians in general:
Writing from a Christian view point, I used to

believe that Christianity was all about faith, that
nothing about God could be proven, only
believed. I know longer see it that way.
God can be tested and proven. He tells us to
taste the Lord and see that He is good. He also
asks us the reason with him. He says he reveals
his wrath for those who hold the truth of his
existence (hold meaning suppress). His wrath
is revealed because he makes it very obvious
that he exists in creation, but there are those
who are willingly ignorant. Just as a beautiful
work of art has an obvious artist behind it (it
would not be logical to assume it painted itself),
creation has an obvious creator. The reason for
their ignorance is that by acknowledging his
existence, they by default become accountable
to him. You are very right to assume that your
ability to be logical comes from him. He is not
only logical, but very wise. He says that a fool
says in his heart there is no God.
One way to prove God exists is to seek him. He

says that those who seek him will find him. It
also is true that some who do not seek him find
him. Another way to prove God is try the spirits.
The Bible says to try the spirits and see if they
be of God. There are clear definitions of the
spirit of God and the spirit of anti-God. Given
those clear definitions, one can logically assume
which spirits originate from him and which do
not.
Lastly, God promises to give us his spirit. God

says everyone who receives the spirit of God is
born again. When you are born again, you give
evidence of this. In the book of Acts, those who
received the spirit gave a birth cry and spoke a
new language that they had been given
supernaturally. If you would like to prove if this
scripture is true, you just follow the steps given.
The steps are very simple. If you repent and are
baptized in the name of Jesus Christ, you will
receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. Thats it. If it
happens, you can prove that receiving the spirit
is possible. If not, you can assume that it may
not be possible, or that you did not fully apply
the steps.
Everyone I know who has applied the first 2

steps always receives the spirit of God, thereby
proving that it is possible to receive Gods
spirit. The evidence is that they are given the
ability to speak languages they have not learned
in the natural way. The fruit of the spirit is love.
Prove God. Hes provable. I dare you. Double

dare you.
Love, joy, and peace to all.
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Lee
November 14, 2014 at 11:04 am
God said these things? So please tell me why
people from the past had all these
communications with God? Anyway these
people you speak of were more than likely
enlightened, but through this interpretation of
enlightenment the information becomes
confused. Jesus was not the God. He was
manifested just as you and I are.
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Dennis Crane
I accept that you can prove God to yourself but
can you judge anothers heart and thereby prove
God for them?
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Jeff
October 25, 2014 at 7:02 pm
I love reading peoples posts about faith,
religion, and/or related truth. All of these
abstract subjects are up to the individual. Truth
in the abstract is nothing more than what we
choose to believe Most TRUTH is subject
to conditions (perceptions) which we may
interpret differently as individuals. The even
more important/influential TRUTHS of
ideological, philosophical, and moral standings
are often clouded by emotion and are typically
not in fact TRUTH.
For example, The Bible states that theft is bad.
Therefore, is a thief good or bad? If someone
steals necessities from you is it bad? Is theft
good or bad? Is a thief who steals for starving
children bad? If someone places themselves in
harms way for others, with nothing to gain for
themselves is it good or bad?
Are multinational biotech companies creating
possibly toxic GMO crops that may alter the
natural genome of existing crops? Can GMO
crops create a dangerous spread of invasive
species resistant to herbicide? Should GMOs be
stopped?
Can Biotech firms create GMO crops that may
grow with less water? Can GMO crops be
created with added nutritional values? Could
GMO crops be used to help curve starving
populations? Could GMO crops be responsibly
grown and harvested to feed malnourished
populations?
Can situation, perception, or outside influence
change truth? A definition of truth summarized
is Truth=Fact. Ultimate facts cannot change.
Truth however, usually does or can very easily.
Is the world flat? The truth to this question is
different depending on who and/or when you
ask it. Ultimately, logic may be used to find
truths. However, with limited perception we all
can find but only limited truth. Some areas we
are well equipped to perceive. Did the ball
bounce..? Did Tim lie when he told me his
dog was as big as a bear? Did I just get hit with
a rock? We can easily perceive these answers.
Was Jesus an amazing man who taught a
righteous lifestyle? Was Jesus a divine
messenger of god? Was Jesus the son of the
almighty creator? Was Jesus the living breathing
form of the one true god on planet earth sent
here to guide his creations to the kingdom of
heaven for an eventual war against the forces of
evil? Is Jesus the god? No person alive today
can prove the truth to these questions either
way We simply dont have the perspective,
perception, or abilities However we can
decide to believe whatever we want in these
regards and even accept them as TRUTH if
we wish I will say this though people as a
whole, as a group dont know sh-t. there is lots
more to our world that we cannot perceive than
we are able to acknowledge.
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Diana
GMO crops are genetically modified with
pesticides built in. If you understand that, you
have the answer to your questions. The answer
is as long as they are using pesticides built into
an organism to modify it it is not food. It is
frankenfood and go ahead and eat it if you
want
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Dennis Crane
Well thought Robert. It is vital to distinguish
between truth and faith. Faith involves certainty
of view and any one person may attain certainty.
Truth is a completely illusive element. You
could state the truth of your conviction for that
is only internal. To state the truth of the universe
requires validation through the universe. This is
not easily transmitted from one person to
another or from one subject to another. Truth in
short can easily exist within one subject or
person but not easily between subjects. One can
agree with certainty but that is still personal,
from each side of the agreement. People often
use faith to impugn the certainty of others. I
think this is the judgement that Christ eschewed.
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Robert Hass
I might add my understanding of God is a
force of goodness, that some of us call God, that
exists in opposition to evil and intervenes in life
to that end i.e. to push back against evil using us
as the weapon. Evil is created via the
misapplication of our ability to reason. I have no
idea what form this force of goodness takes
whether it be a supreme-being, a supreme-
intelligence, extraterrestrial, extra-dimensional,
or ? I just dont know I do know that a force
of evil exists so, therefore a force of goodness
exists and I am on its side. From my research of
the history of the Bibles existence, Ive
discovered that during the dark-ages the Bible
went missing for 400 years (est). Its hard to
believe that the Bible has not been man-
ipulated, by men with the desire to control
mankind. The modern Bible mostly used in the
western world is called the King James Version
question: how many versions of the truth is
there or can there possibly be? I tend to use
the Bible to learn how to navigate life to act on
the side of that force of goodness. If I first and
foremost live to do no harm to another I will be
rewarded in the end with some sort of further
existence if thats possible. The only thing that
I see that the Bible proves is that there is a force
of goodness that many of us call God and that
force of goodness is most powerful all about
knowledge and exists everywhere.
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Dennis Crane
Hi Robert: This is reminiscent of Kant in his
proof of God as the Moral Will. You might
appreciate it. The will to right action is the only
proof of God that Kant accepts as universal.
Also his two Categorical Imperatives are
instructive.
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Paul
January 13, 2015 at 10:15 pm
It is in accordance with Mans nature to need,
and to seek an explanation for the natural world
he found himself in, along with all the other
creatures he shared it with. We have sought to
understand who created all we see and why it
was created since the dawn of man, and for
millennia ever since. When it comes to God,
the spirit of all life or the creator, I believe,
Man simply does not posses the intellectual
capacity to understand who and why the world
was created any more than a super computer can
understand the person who created the super
computer, the reason for creating it or the
technician who assembled it.
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Darryl
May 25, 2015 at 12:45 pm
Hoooooly! What an Awesome talk All of my
life, I have been using these ideas,
unwittingly When Gene started listing off the
Assumptions along with their Latin definition,
the lights came on for me The Science is
settled is a famous quote from Al Gore The
IPCC says its so, therefore the World should
just accept it and the idea that 5 Million
Frenchmen cant be wrong Gaud, I could go
on What excites me the most lies in the idea
that I am just learning about what I have held to
all of my life, but simply havent been able to
put it into context Thank you for giving me
the meaning, understanding and definitions I
was lacking Recently, Ive been
encountering one synchronicity after another
The right knowledge comes along, when I
wasnt looking for it Recently, Ive been
blown away and Im loving it Being
straight and sober, Im having an Ayahuasca
experience, according to people who have
experienced it I cant wait to see what
synchronicity happens next This one is very
special for me I feel totally vindicated from
hundreds of useless arguments Thanks again
For years and years, I thought there might be
something wrong with me A close friend
jokingly tells me that I am a magnet for
Controversy, mainly because I rip apart many
arguments, without so much as an apology
But, when I am presented with a BS point of
view, I have the brains and balls to say so I
guess some people dont like that lol Its great
to find like-minded people in this world
Reply
fred
December 16, 2015 at 1:21 pm
For those who would like to play with the
various toys- logic, belief, contradiction,
paradox, truth may I provide some scenario?
With apologies to Zeno.
Most people would assert they live in present
time; they dont live in the future and they dont
live in the past.; they live in present time.
However all periods of time, even one trillionth
of a second can be divided into past and future-
any period of real time can thus be divided so
that logically present time does not exist. Do we
then exist?
For those who would claim The Bible
(including the Gospels) present a generally
unified view I suggest you read on line
Shredding the Gospels and evil Bible.com
Reply
John
May 20, 2016 at 7:50 am
Jan, I cannot thank you enough for sharing this
information with the World. I was not aware of
this method of teaching and critical thinking,
until recently, and although I became aware of
it, it had never been explained to me in any
depth. The first two talks with Gene have
offered more knowledge regarding thinking,
than all of my education previously and I am 49
years old.
Blessings to you both.
Reply
TriviumEducation
August 31, 2016 at 11:36 pm
Youre welcome, John.
Reply
HanzP
August 28, 2016 at 7:42 am
Unfortunately, this type of causal conversation
only does a disservice to the foundational
trivium knowledge required for the quadrivium
both are preparatory study for any serious
discussion of philosophy. The Allegory of the
Cave is a simple dialogue and perhaps the
most important philosophical teaching in
Western Civilization its meaning completely
destroyed and invalidated in short order.
Perennial Tradition Embodiments of Philosophy
The Hermetic Writings

The Pythagorean System
Oriental Perennialist Systems
Platos Philosophy
Esoteric Christianity
Neo-Platonism
Esoteric Wisdom Teachings
Authentic Sufism
Gothic Cathedral Philosophy
The Cambridge Platonists
Renaissance and Enlightenment
The Perennial Tradition
Reply
TriviumEducation
August 31, 2016 at 11:34 pm
Thats nonsense. You clearly havent studied
the trivium method and are confusing it with the
classical trivium. Gene is the very person who
put the Trivium Method out and this is the very
first talk about it!
You also apparently didnt bother to study the

study notes or go through the study materials,
and youre spreading Huxleyan propaganda like
the Perennial Tradition, then you spread occult
like Hermeticism and have confused the whole
thing entirely though that was probably your
point of posting such misleading material
apparently attempting to confuse those
interested in a real study of it which you
clearly havent done. Also, Platos Cave, et al, is
covered extensively. So learn to use the trivium
and gather all your grammar before you
misspeak and mislead others into your own
sophist confusion.
Reply
Duwain Hans Powell

September 1, 2016 at 5:27 am
Speaking of sophistry, you sound awful lot like
Jan Irwin.
Reply
TriviumEducation
September 1, 2016 at 10:08 pm
Please, Id like you to point out the sophistry,
Duwain, by quoting it with consideration of
all of the occult, Huxleyan material youre
trying to misdirect people with. You come in
here posting everything weve already exposed
in the last several years and are clearly trying to
mislead people about the trivium method. At
least try to spell the name correctly. You
misrepresent everything the trivium method is.
What have you even studied of it? From the
looks of it, only the sophist form ironically
which you poorly attempt to spin onto Irvin.
Reply
TriviumEducation
September 1, 2016 at 10:27 pm
For those whod like to know more about the
twisted Hermetic occultism that Duwain is
trying to promote here, see the Brain Database,
where we see the like of CIA/MI6 MKULTRA
architect Aldous Huxley promoting it, along
with the other agents out of the Esalen Institute,
et al. People are free to study the citations and
all so that they can see how Duwain here is
trying to fool them. Obviously if Duwain had
any citations, hed have already provided them:
https://webbrain.com/brainpage/brain/6FBA86B
0-0C57-9FCA-5CF9-D742DA541AAA#-3344
0-0C57-9FCA-5CF9-D742DA541AAA#-4949
We can see how this goes directly into the

CIAs operation:
0-0C57-9FCA-5CF9-D742DA541AAA#-671
0-0C57-9FCA-5CF9-D742DA541AAA#-168
Into transpersonal psychology:

0-0C57-9FCA-5CF9-D742DA541AAA#-4682
And right into Harvard with all the key

MKULTRA players:
0-0C57-9FCA-5CF9-D742DA541AAA#-2861
0-0C57-9FCA-5CF9-D742DA541AAA#-4669
Which then exposes Duwains poor attempt at

sophistry, and his typical use of spin to try to
put it onto me, when he clearly doesnt know
the difference between the trivium method, and
the Classical Trivium which is mind control
or maybe he does know the difference..?
Obviously since hes promoting CIAs crap on
my site, he cant be trusted.
What hes promoting is the exact antithesis to

the trivium method.
These guys hate getting caught and the trivium

method is the #01 way they always get busted.
Of course theyre going to be on here posting
gibberish to confuse people.
Just be careful out there, folks, there are

occultists and Satanists all over the place trying
to mislead you into more magical thinking and
mind control.
Duwain Powell, your further spin and nonsense

posts will be blocked.
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When and Where Knowledge Matters
Showcase
1.2 August 16, 2012
The
Schewe
Editors: Brittney Thomas, MLS; Eileen Doyle,
BA Editor-in-Chief: Jan Figa
Cheers
,
It has been a busy month getting ready for the
new and returning students
and faculty. The reference team is excited about
upcoming workshops and in
-class information literacy & fluency
instruction. I have been busy with cali-
brating Schewes collections, and developing
and deploying broad and deep
assessment tools. As a start to fine-tuning the
collection, please consider the
VHS collection for weeding. That collection
will be available for inspection on
the Faculty Review Shelves, just inside to the
right of the library, beginning Friday August 17
th
and ending September 10
th
. This weeding of an outdated format anticipates
ICs shift from ac-
cumulating Audio-Visual materials which are
infrequently to never circulated materials to
streaming video that allows anywhere, anytime
access in alignment with current user expec-
tations.
The following two graphs describe the checkout
rates for the 1007 item VHS collection (note
the exponential decay). Figure 1 shows the
checkout rate distribution (e.g., about 33% of
the
VHS collection has never been
checked out, while 5% have
been checked out exactly 5
times). Figure 2 shows the per-
centage of checkouts for a giv-
en year (e.g., about 80% of the
collection circulated before
2003, and zero checkouts in
2012). Similar analysis was
recently performed on the
print book collection.
Fig. 1: Distribution of checkout rates.
Fig. 2: Distribution of checkouts by calendar
year.
Please let me know if there
are resources or services you
think we should have.
Jan
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Schewes New Books section has
accumulated quite a few books over
the summer, and I invite you to visit
that section as you perambulate the
library. In fact, I found a delightful volume
titled, Quadrivium:
The Four Classical Liberal Arts of Number,
Geometry, Music, &
Cosmology (call number: 516.22 L962). Yes, I
know it was
called astrology thenand, you know there is a
difference
between astrology and astronomy. This book
reminded me
of my recent visit to the Block Museum
[www.blockmuseum.northwestern.edu] for their
exhibit
titled Prints and the Pursuit of Knowledge in
Early Modern
Europe. The exhibit examines how celebrated
Northern
Renaissance artists contributed to scientific
inquiries of the
16th century. Rare and treasured prints,
drawings, books,
maps, and scientific instruments demonstrate
that artists were
not just illustrators in the service of scientists
but that their
work played an active role in facilitating the
understanding of
new concepts in astronomy, geography, natural
history, and
anatomy. One particular series of images
caught my eyeit
showed the Seven Liberal Arts as personified
female figures
with specific attributes and companions (see
below). This
tradition of artistic representation of the Seven
Liberal Arts can
be traced to the fifth-century work of Martianus
Capella in his
allegorial treatise titled, De Nuptiis Philologiae
et Mercurii
Libri Novem.
And just in case you are wondering, the seven
Liberal Arts
were divided into the Trivium ("the three
roads") and the
Quadrivium ("the four roads"). The Trivium
consisted of
Grammar, Rhetoric and Dialectic (Logic).
Schewe also has a
book on this latter topic, titled, The trivium:
the liberal arts
of logic, grammar, and rhetoric : understanding
the nature
and funcfion of language (call number 808.042
M675). The
images are from URL:
bibliodyssey.blogspot.com/2009/12/seven-
liberal-arts.html
Mus
ica
Geometria
Arithmeti
ca
Astr
olog
ia
Dialectica
Grammati
ca
Rhetorica
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Sept 12 at 11 am
Learn about the ACRL information literacy
standards and please the assessment
gods by creating a standards outcome rubric for
your upcoming embedded
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Making Time for ResearchMon Oct 1 at
noon
Encourage your students to attend this
workshop. We will introduce students to the
research process and help them plan a schedule
that will keep them on the right
track to a scholarly paper!
Copyright and YouMon Oct 22 at noon
Is copyright looking over your shoulder while

you plan your courses? Join the
discussion and learn the copyright dos and
donts.
Schewe Library is a proud member of Portico
[www.portico.org]
-- one of the largest digital archives in the world
working with
libraries and publishers to preserve e-journals,
e-books, and
other electronic scholarly works. Portico
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the event of a
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Take advantage of Schewes Patio
this fall. Hold a class, hold a
meeting, or just come yourself!
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Mike Westbrook
Reference Librarian
LIBRARY
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Brittney Thomas
Public Services Librarian
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Connie Lee
Acquisitions Assistant
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Eileen Doyle
Circulation Manager
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Jo Ellen Marsh
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Jan Figa
Library Director
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Public Services Report
Collaboration is the name of the game
for the Public Services Department. First
off, we have begun collaborating with Dr.
Genetin-Pilawa and Dr. Porter to host a
few Library Movie Nights. We are also
working with the Center for Academic
Excellence and the Writing Center to
provide a series of research help
sessions for IC students. Look for dates and
times in the next newsletter!
We are also working closely with the Reference
Department in order to provide a strong
support system for IC faculty, students, and
staff. We are providing support for the new in-
formation literacy embedded experience and we
are also developing and disseminating li-
brary subject guides and online tutorials. We are
also planning a few Brown Bag Lunch
workshops this fall for both faculty and
students.
Schewe Library is looking for a bright and
creative student intern to help with our new
mar-
keting initiative. In order to obtain a better idea
of how we can better support our students
we are starting up a Library Club. Last but not
least, Schewe
Library has been having a blast meeting new
and potential
students at the IC Preview Days and Student
Summer Orienta-
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Brittney Thomas
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Web 2.0 in the Classroom
Payne, Georgina. Engage or Enrage: the Blog
as an Assessment Tool. Informafion Litera-
cy in Library 2.0. Godwin, Peter and Jo Parker.
London: Facet Publishing, 2008. 77-85.
Print.
Markey, Karen, Christopher Leeder and Amy
Hofer. BiblioBouts: Whats in a Game?
C&RL News 72.11 (2011): 632-645.
Bobish, G. Participation and Pedagogy:
Connecting the Social Web to ACRL Learning
Outcomes. The Journal of Academic
Librarianship 37:1 (2010): 54-63.
Kassens-Noor, Eva. Twitter as a Teaching
Practice to Enhance Active and Informal
Learning in Higher Education: The Case of
Sustainable Tweets. Acfive Learning in Higher
Educafion 13.1 (2012): 9-21. Academic Search
Premier.
Niedbala, M.A. Taking Library 2.0 to the
Next
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Journal of Library Administrafion 50.7/8
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Robin, Kay and Ilona Kletskin. Evaluating
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Mathematics in Higher Education. Computers
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Search Premier.
The Journal Reading Alcove (pictured to the
right) offers additional
reading area for enjoying back issues of print
journals before they go
downstairs onto compact shelving. The current
issues are still near the
entrance of the library. Over time the print
collection will shrink as we
transition to mostly digital format, potentially
allowing redevelopment
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It has been a tumultuous summer here at the
refer-
ence desk. Mike Westbrook, Brittney Thomas,
and
Pat Headen taught the last of the Mellon
Foundation
Faculty Technology Workshops. This program
began
in 2010, and has taught technology to a group of
fac-
ulty each summer. The faculty members were
eager,
excited, and often boisterous. Good technology
will
do that to people. The group also ate incredibly
well,
thanks entirely to Mr. Westbrook. He knew it
was time for Mellon to end when his belt went
out a
notch.
Many changes are occurring in the library,
disturbing Mr. Westbrooks usual Zen-like
peace at the
reference desk. He continues to dispense
wisdom on demand, however. It is clear that the
refer-
ence collection will be moving to more
electronic resources, so if there is a paper
reference work
that you want kept, or an electronic tool that you
want added, please let Mr. Westbrook know.
In even more exciting news, Mr. Westbrook has
begun cleaning his desk. This process may not
be
completed until after our current entering
freshmen graduate, but the process is already
bearing
fruit. There is good reason to believe that Jimmy
Hoffa may be buried somewhere in Mr. West-
brooks stuff, and that Judge Crater may be
found in an even more subterranean layer.
Mike Westbrook
Reference Librarian
LIBRARY
Word clouds are artistic
expressions repre-
senting frequency
counts of text. There
are several sites that
allow you to create
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Below is the word cloud
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gram Handbook:
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Trivium Education.

The Trivium method: (pertains to mind) the

[1] General Grammar

For if you [the rulers] suffer your people to be

Art Websters International Dictionary,

Tonight's show is an important one. Without it,

Gnostic Medias 1 Year anniversary show!

Tonights show is an important one. Without it,

My guest is Gene Odening.

Gene lived through the first part, the Stage of

When he was 20 years old, he began the second

As he reached the age of about 56, he had the

Or play / download the audio only:

Post navigationGene Odening interview, Part 2

But, secondly, Id like to call you out on your

Keep up the good work, and thanks again.

Of course it can help people to consider the way

However, if we are to commit deeply to critical

1. You spoke about paradoxes and the natural/

2. If part of the value of the trivium is that it

4. If we apply logic to remove contradictions

4. Aristoltle is probably the most influential

6. Hegels dialectic is an account of how reason

7. Genealogy (Nietzsche), deconstruction

8. Knowledge does not exist outside of a

9. There seems to be an assumption underlying

10. Another way of thinking about knowledge is

Maybe the truth of human discourse as you

why does that matter? the idea is the same:

But, that you violated the straw man principle

no, thats a fallacy fallacy: dismissing an entire

an ad hominem would be you saying that hes

john miller N.H.

To Robert and Christians in general:

Writing from a Christian view point, I used to

One way to prove God exists is to seek him. He

Lastly, God promises to give us his spirit. God

Everyone I know who has applied the first 2

Prove God. Hes provable. I dare you. Double

Love, joy, and peace to all.

Blessings to you both.

Perennial Tradition Embodiments of Philosophy

The Hermetic Writings

You also apparently didnt bother to study the

Duwain Hans Powell

We can see how this goes directly into the

Into transpersonal psychology:

And right into Harvard with all the key

Which then exposes Duwains poor attempt at

What hes promoting is the exact antithesis to

These guys hate getting caught and the trivium

Just be careful out there, folks, there are

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