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2017/03/21, 09:31 PM
Mad Manny
Ultimate Trail Master

Introduction:

The idea behind developing Ultimate Trail Master (UTM) was to try stimulate
interest in 4x4'íng whilst also recognising those who are active & who
achieve more than the average Off Road user.

A by-product would be increasing interest in 4x4-related topics on this


Forum.

ANYONE who abides by the rules of the competition & participates in the
spirit in which the competition is run, is welcome to participate.

Disclaimer: I needed a website, a bank account & support in order to


launch UTM.
Attempts to garner support were largely unsuccessful, so I had to tap into
my existing infastructure.
I have therefore, with permission, used 4x4AG's site & account.
I'd like to thank Rudi Oost for the massive amount of help he has given me.

Thanks Rudi....

2017/03/21, 09:32 PM
Mad Manny
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

ROLL OF HONOUR:
Ultimate Trail Masters
Cinquenta Conquistadors

1st Engel (Herman Engelbrecht).


2nd Jurgen Steyn
3rd Ben Van Dyk
4th Flipside (Flip Kotze)
5th NEON DEON (Deon Smith)
6th 4RNRRON (Ron Hairbottle)
7th Grips (Christo Van Vuuren)
8th DanieK (Danie Kotze)
9th Mad Manny (Manny De Freitas)
10th Bush Nomad (Chas Dean)

Dos Sete Diablos (The 7 Devils)

First Francois Herbst


2nd ?

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2017/03/21, 09:34 PM
Mad Manny
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Ultimate Trail Master

There are THREE challenges in which participants can undertake:


I. Dos Sete Diablos (The 7 Devils)
II. Cinco Extremos (5 Extreme Challenges)
III. Cinquenta Desafios (50 Trails Challenge)

You can enter anyone of them, you can even enter two, or all three.

Here are the details of each:

I. Dos Sete Diablos


(The Seven Devils Challenge)

The challenge involves completing 7 trails/obstacles within 24 months.


A competitor must successfully complete any 7 of the 10 listed
trails/obstacles:

# 1. WC - Atlantis Dunes (Under guidance of a FAC member)


# 2. Lesotho - Baboons Pass
# 3. FS - Moolman's Hoek's Horse Guided Trail
# 4. NW - Koos se klim at Moegatle ...up and down, not the detour up
# 5. NW - Briekmerk (Up & Rt at top only) @ Att Se Gat
# 6. LP - A Giyani River Trip (Molototsi, Klien Letaba, Letaba)
# 7. MP - HellsHoogte @ 3 Provinces
# 8. EC - Brakkeduine – The entire trail incl the figure 8 loop @ the end
# 9. NC - Lang Duin (at least 1/2 way *) @ Waterford
#10. NC/Namibia - Road to Hell Pass

A board will be erected at Lang Duin in due course to mark the point you
must reach on the dune.

Rules:
1. You must complete all 7 challenges within 24 months of completing the
1st one.
2. Only Challenges done after 1 January 2017 qualify.
3. You must submit proof (photos or video etc.) within 7 days of
completion.
4. Vehicle Specifications:
• No restrictions to vehicle mods, but the vehicle must be road legal,
licensed & registered.
• The vehicle must be owned by the competitor
• Different vehicles may be used, providing the competitor can prove they
owned the vehicle at the time.
• The vehicle must be driven to the challenge, not taken on a flatbed or
trailer or towed.

How it Works:
1. Complete the first of the challenges above.
2. Complete the online registration form on [www.4x4actiongroup.co.za,
click on Event Calendar.]
3. Pay the Registration Fee of R177.77 using your name, followed by DSD
(Dos Sete Diablos) as the reference.
4. Submit your evidence & documentation to
[madmannydefreitas@yebo.co.za (drop the mad)].
5. The competitor will then be sent a Competitor Number.
6. After each successive obstacle is successfully completed, proof must be
submitted, within 7 days.
7. Once all 7 are completed, it will be announced & a Certificate will be
issued.
Prizes:
All successful competitors (all those who successfully complete 7 of the
listed challenges within 24 months will receive a gel domed sticker & a
certificate “Conquistador Dos Sete Diablos”

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The first competitor to qualify will be given a winch with a synthetic rope –
including fitment.

2017/03/21, 09:35 PM
Mad Manny
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

II. Cinco Extremos


(5 Extreme Challenges)
The Extreme challenge requires competitors to complete the 5 Extreme
challenges below:

# 1. NW - The Complete Briekmerk (Up, then Left & all the way down)
# 2. FS - Rhino Challenge @ Berakah (this will be an organised event)
# 3. NW - God Se Pad @ Moegatle (Guided only)
# 4. LP - Superman @ Rust De Winter (This is a guided Trail)
# 5. MP - Carnage Canyon

Rules:
1. You must complete all 5 challenges within 24 months of completing the
1st one.
2. Only Challenges done after 1 January 2017 qualify.
3. You must submit proof (photos or video etc.) within 7 days of
completion.
4. Vehicle Specifications:
• No restrictions to vehicle mods, but the vehicle must be road legal,
licensed & registered.
• The vehicle must be owned by the competitor
• Different vehicles may be used, providing the competitor can prove they
owned the vehicle at the time.
• The vehicle must be driven to the challenge, not taken on a flatbed or
trailer or towed.

How it Works:
1. Complete the first of the challenges above.
2. Complete the online registration form on [www.4x4actiongroup.co.za,
click on Event Calendar]
3. Pay the Registration Fee of R155.55 using your name, followed by CX
(Cinco Extremos) as the reference.
4. Submit your evidence & documentation to
[madmannydefreitas@yebo.co.za (drop the mad)].
5. The competitor will then be sent a Competitor Number.
6. After each successive obstacle is successfully completed, proof must be
submitted, within 7 days.
7. Once all 5 are completed, it will be announced & a Certificate will be
issued.

2017/03/21, 09:36 PM
Mad Manny
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

III. Cinquenta Desafios


(50 Trails Challenge)
The 50 Trails Challenge is simple, you must just have completed 50 Trails or
Overlanding trips, where you were the principle driver, at any time in your
lifetime.

Please Note: You can only list a place ONCE, no matter how many times
you have done it.
Between Hennops, De Wildt, Moegatle & Att Se Gat I have over 25 visits.
But those will only count as 4 'venues'.

WARNING: I will pick 3 or 4 of the 50 & ask you to prove you were there.
Inconclusively.
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What Trails/Trips Qualify:


Any 4x4 Trail like; De Wildt, Hennops, Atlantis Dunes, Brakkeduine etc.
Any overlanding trip in Southern Africa; Richtersveld, Kalagadi, Zambia,
Namibia etc.
Note:The competitor must have been the principle driver, in his/her own
vehicle & accommodation must have been (largely) camping (Ground Tent,
TTT or RTT).
A trip to Botswana in a tour group using hired vehicles & staying in pre-
erected tented camps & cabins does not qualify.
How it Works:
1. Complete the online registration form on [www.4x4actiongroup.co.za,
click on Event Calendar]
2. Pay the Registration Fee of R50.00 using your name, followed by 50
(Cinquecento) as the reference.
3. Submit your evidence & documentation [madmannydefreitas@yebo.co.za
(drop the mad)].
4. The competitor will then be sent a Competitor Number.
5. Once 50 are completed, it will be announced & a Certificate will be
issued.

2017/03/21, 09:37 PM
Mad Manny
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

[Please send a mail to madmannydefreitas@yebo.co.za (drop the mad)


until such time as the Website & links are live...]

2017/03/21, 09:56 PM
Fluffy
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Somebody is going to ask, so I may as well play Devils advocate and ask.

What is the registration fee for.

2017/03/21, 09:58 PM
JohanSlabbert
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fluffy


Somebody is going to ask, so I may as well play Devils
advocate and ask.

What is the registration fee for.

It's for registering.

2017/03/21, 10:02 PM
Mad Manny
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Sponsors:

Ink Monkey (Marius Jnr) - stickers & Certificates


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Autoline (Sidestep) - The Winch for 1st competitor to complete Dos Setes
Diablos
Goloso (Johan Slabbert) - R2000 meal voucher for first competitor to
complete Dos Sete Diablos.
Goloso (Johan Slabbert) - R5000 meal voucher for first competitor to
complete Cinco Extremos.
Goloso (Johan Slabbert) - R1000 meal voucher for the first person to
complete Cinquenta Desafios
Reenen (Kritzinger) - Free camping for a weekend to any entrant (lets limit
is to 10).

2017/03/21, 10:07 PM
Mad Manny
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fluffy


Somebody is going to ask, so I may as well play Devils
advocate and ask.

What is the registration fee for.

Costs, like admin, some fool will leave a message & I'll have to call him
back etc.
We'd have to set up a Rhino challenge, that's admin, trips to Berakah, calls
etc...
We may incur costs for designing the 3 logos.

We might have to set up days at Briekmerk & Koos se Klim to host


members from the colonies.

But the money is purely symbolic & on the amount of entrants I envisage
over two years, insignificant.

2017/03/21, 10:23 PM
Anthony Forgey
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quite the call to action this is....

Perhaps time for some to dust of the old 4x4 and take it out for an
adventure...

Of course no-one has anything to prove here... its simply a challenge to


conquer... maybe, maybe not...

A great initiative...

2017/03/21, 11:07 PM
OwenD
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Manny

We may incur costs for designing the 3 logos.

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Can't believe you didn't take the backslappers one. Here is another free of
charge. This is different to ultimate bushmaster right?

Attachment 439483

Thank me later ::)

2017/03/22, 08:03 AM
KurtG
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

This sounds awesome, will try do the last one (I can't pronounce the
French)

2017/03/22, 03:12 PM
Mad Manny
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

We already have about a dozen people who qualify for the Cinquenta
Challenge.
They are busy drawing up their lists.

I'll be submitting mine too.

2017/03/22, 03:17 PM
JohanSlabbert
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Manny


We already have about a dozen people who qualify for the
Cinquecento Challenge.
They are busy drawing up their lists.

I'll be submitting mine too.

Can you stick to English please? I find the Porra lingo very confusing. ::)

2017/03/22, 03:28 PM
rechardt
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Manny


We already have about a dozen people who qualify for the
Cinquecento Challenge.
They are busy drawing up their lists.

I'll be submitting mine too.

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So who do we submit this too.?


E mail address??
Name of person?

2017/03/22, 03:30 PM
KurtG
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Manny. For the last one (the 50 thingy majiggy challenge):

Does Sani Pass count?


Do the eastern cape passes (Lundean's Neck, Naude's Neck, Tiffendel)
count?
What about Die Hel in the Gamkaskloof?
Baviaanskloof?

2017/03/22, 03:32 PM
JohanSlabbert
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Also, whoever gets a meal voucher, you have one last challenge: Finding
parking in Sea Point >:D ;D

2017/03/22, 03:38 PM
Mad Manny
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by KurtG


Manny. For the last one (the 50 thingy majiggy challenge):

Does Sani Pass count?


Do the eastern cape passes (Lundean's Neck, Naude's Neck,
Tiffendel) count?
What about Die Hel in the Gamkaskloof?
Baviaanskloof?

If it is a route that would require the use of Low Range & 4WD then it
qualifies.
But if it is 'Do-able' in High or if you could do it in RWD then no.

And please, no mails from Amarok Auto owners saying they don't have Low
Range...

2017/03/22, 03:58 PM
Mad Manny
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by rechardt


So who do we submit this too.?
E mail address??

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Name of person?

For now, just pop a mail to me, they are still busy setting up the tabs &
forms for me.

madmannydefreitas@yebo.co.za.

Just drop the 'mad'.

Then I'll send you the links.

2017/03/22, 04:26 PM
Su-SWYS-ki
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

MSG sent for registration...... let the games begin

2017/03/22, 05:08 PM
KurtG
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Manny


If it is a route that would require the use of Low Range &
4WD then it qualifies.
But if it is 'Do-able' in High or if you could do it in RWD then
no.

And please, no mails from Amarok Auto owners saying they


don't have Low Range...

Thanks, I will remove all four from my list then :D

2017/03/22, 05:29 PM
Engel
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

I dont have low range, or reverse.

2017/03/22, 05:40 PM
Mad Manny
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by Engel


I dont have low range, or reverse.

Mis jy aspris my punt... ;D

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2017/03/22, 06:02 PM
Apocalypse
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Manny


If it is a route that would require the use of Low Range &
4WD then it qualifies.
But if it is 'Do-able' in High or if you could do it in RWD then
no.

And please, no mails from Amarok Auto owners saying they


don't have Low Range...

what if a Duster can do it?

2017/03/22, 06:06 PM
Engel
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

I will start my list of trails done and think Im over the 50 trails. Also done 7
of the 10 devils but long ago. Maybe just a reason to do it again. Im
finished with the extreme stuff.

2017/03/22, 06:28 PM
Mad Manny
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by Apocalypse


what if a Duster can do it?

"A Duster Can Do It" is a phrase which emanated from the Cape Area.
It is filed alongside phrases like;
"I saw the Yeti"
"There is a monster in Loch Ness"
"All Hilux's are stolen".
"A Fortuner can't beat a Wrangler"
"There is photographic evidence of BigFoot"
"Trump is competent"

Over a year ago we asked for evidence of this mythical Duster doing stuff.

Still waiting...

2017/03/22, 07:22 PM
Engel
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Done and dusted. Got my 50 trails and 4x4trips. That excludes driving
every possible route through botswana and namibia in the month I spent

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there.

2017/03/22, 07:30 PM
Mad Manny
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by Engel


Done and dusted. Got my 50 trails and 4x4trips. That
excludes driving every possible route through botswana and
namibia in the month I spent there.

You need to sign up.


Pay.
Send proof to me.
I'll pick 3 to verify.

If you move fast you can eat for free at Goloso when you are in Cape Town
next week...

2017/03/22, 07:40 PM
Reenen
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Manny


If it is a route that would require the use of Low Range &
4WD then it qualifies.
But if it is 'Do-able' in High or if you could do it in RWD then
no.

And please, no mails from Amarok Auto owners saying they


don't have Low Range...

Tel sossosvlei?

2017/03/22, 07:56 PM
Prof
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Manny


Mis jy aspris my punt... ;D

Hy is nou 50jr oud...hy gaan nou al jou punte mis....aspris>:D

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2017/03/22, 08:01 PM
Mad Manny
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reenen


Tel sossosvlei?

Yes.

Tell me, where did you stay when you did Sossosvlei ?

2017/03/22, 08:08 PM
Reenen
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Manny


Yes.

Tell me, where did you stay when you did Sossosvlei ?

Once at the national parks campsite, next time on a farm with campsites
about 20km to walvis side....

But luckily I got proof of sossosvlei, and confirmed that it counts...


https://youtu.be/vXZX_B4Lqw8

2017/03/22, 08:10 PM
Reenen
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Tel die top van Duin 5?

Tel pelican point?

2017/03/22, 08:14 PM
Prof
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

1 Attachment(s)
Attachment 439650

2017/03/22, 08:25 PM
LdLL
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Manny

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You need to sign up.


Pay.
Send proof to me.
I'll pick 3 to verify.

If you move fast you can eat for free at Goloso when you
are in Cape Town next week...

..... and if he can get parking[emoji12]

2017/03/22, 08:37 PM
outlaw shaun
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

once u qualify , does ur signature or name change to the challenge uve


completed ?

2017/03/22, 08:38 PM
KurtG
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by outlaw shaun


once u qualify , does ur signature or name change to the
challenge uve completed ?

Only on the Portuguese version of the Forum

2017/03/22, 08:39 PM
Frans Reichert
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by outlaw shaun


once u qualify , does ur signature or name change to the
challenge uve completed ?

Kwaai idee.

2017/03/22, 08:45 PM
Fluffy
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Manny

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You need to sign up.


Pay.
Send proof to me.
I'll pick 3 to verify.

If you move fast you can eat for free at Goloso when you
are in Cape Town next week...

Johan will go bankrupt.

2017/03/22, 08:47 PM
Mad Manny
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by outlaw shaun


once u qualify , does ur signature or name change to the
challenge uve completed ?

It was suggested on the original Thread.

I think it's a great idea.

If a Nooby joins, doesn't know who, say Engel is, he might give Engel lip.
But if he sees "Ultimate Trail Master' or "Dos Sete Diablos" (or whichever
one he's completed) beneath his name he at least knows the guys Bona
Fides.

Would be nice to see;

Engel
UTM - Cinquenta

or...

Joe Blogg
UTM - Dos Sete Diablos

2017/03/22, 08:52 PM
Mad Manny
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fluffy


Johan will go bankrupt.

Read post #9 again.

Goloso is in for a very generous R8 000.00. No more.

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2017/03/22, 08:57 PM
Fluffy
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Manny


Read post #9 again.

Goloso is in for a very generous R8 000.00. No more.

Read my post again - Its Herman.;D

2017/03/22, 08:58 PM
Reenen
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Ek sal n gratis kamp naweek sponser vir elke ou wat net inskryf vir enige
van die challenges...., by my gratis kampterein.

2017/03/22, 08:59 PM
Mad Manny
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fluffy


Read my post again - Its Herman.;D

Are you saying he is fat? ;D

2017/03/22, 09:01 PM
Mad Manny
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reenen


Ek sal n gratis kamp naweek sponser vir elke ou wat net
inskryf vir enige van die challenges...., by my gratis
kampterein.

Dankie!

I've added you to the list of sponsors.

Id like to stay there just to learn out to fix cars....;D

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2017/03/22, 09:05 PM
Fluffy
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Manny


Are you saying he is fat? ;D

Nooo, never. He just has expensive tastes.

2017/03/22, 09:16 PM
grips
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

1 Attachment(s)
Thanks Manny, once again the great organizer. Some
keyboardisds will hate this. I might qualify for the 50`s
trails done. But now to dig out evidence.

Would like to compete in the Seven devils. Hope I can finish that.;D;D

You really got something going here. ;D;D

I belong to a few forums and they do reward your Avatar. Guess it is up to


Dirk.

2017/03/22, 09:23 PM
Dirk
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Some keyboardisds will hate this

I think it is time this word is removed from this forum, so from now
onwards all posts will that will be deleted.

Quote:

I belong to a few forums and they do reward your Avatar.


Guess it is up to Dirk.

It is an Action Group event, so no not up to me.

2017/03/22, 09:24 PM
Jeanvn
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Not being able to tow the tjiep with an a frame is going to make this a
whole lot more time consuming for me. But adds to the challenge will have
to see if I can make a plan. Might be up to 50 trails/ trips will start
counting.

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2017/03/22, 09:36 PM
grips
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirk


I think it is time this word is removed from this forum, so
from now onwards all posts will that will be deleted.

It is an Action Group event, so no not up to me.

Dirk sorry for the insult on keyboard...... Did not know it was a 4x4AG
event only. Think that this idea will really show who get their wheels dirty.
Think there is a chance for everyone to participate even overlanders.

I see this as fun so maybe this will encourage a few of us to put some dust
on our 4x4`s. I mean this is a 4x4 forum after all.;D;D

2017/03/22, 09:41 PM
Fluffy
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirk


I think it is time this word is removed from this forum, so
from now onwards all posts will that will be deleted.

It is an Action Group event, so no not up to me.

Maybe I am a little naive.

Please bare with me in all honesty.

I am battling to undrstand or see what is so wrong or offensive with that


word.

2017/03/22, 09:42 PM
Mad Manny
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

I stress this event is open to all.

If anyone is prepared to help me with:


* A Website
* A Bank Account.
* Their time

I'm more than happy to run this as a free-standing event.

I've probably given 12 hours of my time over the past few weeks & have
had many hours of assistence.

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All I want is to turn around the decline in Off Road activity & to create some
fun.

The massive response shows that there are 'green shoots' of interest slowly
emerging.

2017/03/22, 09:43 PM
Mad Manny
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by grips


Did not know it was a 4x4AG event only.

It is not.

2017/03/22, 09:53 PM
Dirk
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fluffy


Maybe I am a little naive.

Please bare with me in all honesty.

I am battling to undrstand or see what is so wrong or


offensive with that word.

Elsewhere and another day, not going to derail this thread.

2017/03/22, 10:08 PM
Fluffy
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirk


Elsewhere and another day, not going to derail this thread.

Respect, understand.

2017/03/22, 10:16 PM
rechardt
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

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Originally Posted by JohanSlabbert


Also, whoever gets a meal voucher, you have one last
challenge: Finding parking in Sea Point >:D ;D

Not a problem at all.just climb up on the first pavement you find.

2017/03/22, 10:16 PM
Flipside
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reenen


Once at the national parks campsite, next time on a farm
with campsites about 20km to walvis side....

But luckily I got proof of sossosvlei, and confirmed that it


counts...
https://youtu.be/vXZX_B4Lqw8

Oulik Reenen,
Weet jy hoeveel ouens gaan nou hulle oupa se Merc deur hulle alies gaan
trek in Sossusvlei?

2017/03/22, 10:19 PM
grips
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prof


Attachment 439650

Please explain. I do not get it.

2017/03/22, 10:24 PM
Rainier Vermaak
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by grips


Please explain. I do not get it.

A can of worms. Almal wat nou wil weet van verskillende roetes...

2017/03/22, 10:26 PM
Reenen
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Quote:

Originally Posted by Flipside


Oulik Reenen,
Weet jy hoeveel ouens gaan nou hulle oupa se Merc deur
hulle alies gaan trek in Sossusvlei?

Cool, so hulle gaan uit kom uit suburbia, en actually bietjie leef.

Die merc gaan skielik weer lewe en waarde kry, en na 5 jaar nog net so
perfek, behalwe by meer loved wees.

En na sossosvlei, kan hulle hul ouma se peugeot saam nooi, en gaan duine
ry

https://youtu.be/TWVWqqUAELI

2017/03/22, 10:44 PM
grips
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rainier Vermaak


A can of worms. Almal wat nou wil weet van verskillende
roetes...

Ok gedag `n can of worms beteken iets oneties.

2017/03/23, 10:20 AM
Mad Manny
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

We have a Winner!!!
Herman 'Engel' is the first person to sign up, pay & submit his list for the
Cinquenta (50 Trails) Challenge...

50 Routes and trails by Herman Engelbrecht

1 Hennops
2 Hennops pride
3 Dewildt
4 Moletots river
5 Klein letaba river
6 Hobby park
7 Naboomspruit trail [new trail development]
8 Erroa 4x4
9 Chimes
10 Bapsfontein 4x4
11 Kungweni
12 Lichtenburg 4x4
13 Groenkloof 4x4
14 Gelandenwagen club 4x4 trail
15 Baboons pass
16 Chloorkop
17 Sandwani

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18 Berakka
19 Mogatle
20 Brakkenduine
21 Off Chamber
22 Kershout Laagte
23 Vleesbaai dune route
24 Atlantis
25 Melkbos strand
26 Hunters road Botswana
27 Guma lagoon maun/caprivi
28 Kalagadi Transfrontier
29 Base 4
30 Lethele Lesotho
31 Kruger National Park 4x4
32 Moolmans hoek
33 Rebellie
34 Mahem
35 Moz Route Pemba, Palma, Lighthouse
36 Moz Afungi Pinensula
37 Palma 4x4 training venue
38 Quionga to ravuma river Tanzania
39 Huntersroad Hunting area South Ngwahla
40 Swakop / walvis Dunes route
41 PMB Mountain route
I have used the following Vehicles: Nissan HB, Jeep wrangler, Iveco 4x4,
Toyota Landcruiser, Triton,
Amarok auto and manual, 4 motion transporter, Datsun Safari, Nissan
Patrol.
42 Pinetown 4x4 route
43 Landrover experience Kyalami
44 Gerotec 4x4 trail
45 African Offroad
46 AAHD training grounds
47 Springs 4x4
48 Bass lake
49 Bosvark 4x4
50 Gariep trip
51 Babelonstorin
52 Kama Rhino/ elephant sands/ Nata / Pans/ lekhubu
53 At se Gat
54 Zambia /Ndola
55 Diggers hole
56 Jobedi
57 Riverwilde
58 Zookamma
59 Rust de winter
60 Serendipity
61 Koranna getaway
62 Baviaans
63 Rhino Park
64 Greytown/ mooirivier origin trail
65 Tswane crater
66 Savuti
Moremi
3rd bridge
Xakanaxa
Nxai Pans
Makgadigadi Pans
East to west, north to south Namibia

Herman will be enjoying R1 000 of Goloso food soon.

Herman is also going to tackle Dos Sete Diablos with gusto soon...

PS #6 & #49 are the same place, the name just changed...

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2017/03/23, 10:26 AM
KurtG
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Baviaanskloof does not require low range, try again Herman [emoji23]. I
did it in a Forester.

2017/03/23, 10:47 AM
Quack
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Manny

We have a Winner!!!
Herman 'Engel' is the first person to sign up, pay & submit
his list for the Cinquecento (50 Trails) Challenge...

50 Routes and trails by Herman Engelbrecht

1 Hennops
2 Hennops pride
3 Dewildt
4 Moletots river
5 Klein letaba river
6 Hobby park
7 Naboomspruit trail [new trail development]
8 Erroa 4x4
9 Chimes
10 Bapsfontein 4x4
11 Kungweni
12 Lichtenburg 4x4
13 Groenkloof 4x4
14 Gelandenwagen club 4x4 trail
15 Baboons pass
16 Chloorkop
17 Sandwani
18 Berakka
19 Mogatle
20 Brakkenduine
21 Off Chamber
22 Kershout Laagte
23 Vleesbaai dune route
24 Atlantis
25 Melkbos strand
26 Hunters road Botswana
27 Guma lagoon maun/caprivi
28 Kalagadi Transfrontier
29 Base 4
30 Lethele Lesotho
31 Kruger National Park 4x4
32 Moolmans hoek
33 Rebellie
34 Mahem
35 Moz Route Pemba, Palma, Lighthouse
36 Moz Afungi Pinensula

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37 Palma 4x4 training venue


38 Quionga to ravuma river Tanzania
39 Huntersroad Hunting area South Ngwahla
40 Swakop / walvis Dunes route
41 PMB Mountain route
I have used the following Vehicles: Nissan HB, Jeep
wrangler, Iveco 4x4, Toyota Landcruiser, Triton,
Amarok auto and manual, 4 motion transporter, Datsun
Safari, Nissan Patrol.
42 Pinetown 4x4 route
43 Landrover experience Kyalami
44 Gerotec 4x4 trail
45 African Offroad
46 AAHD training grounds
47 Springs 4x4
48 Bass lake
49 Bosvark 4x4
50 Gariep trip
51 Babelonstorin
52 Kama Rhino/ elephant sands/ Nata / Pans/ lekhubu
53 At se Gat
54 Zambia /Ndola
55 Diggers hole
56 Jobedi
57 Riverwilde
58 Zookamma
59 Rust de winter
60 Serendipity
61 Koranna getaway
62 Baviaans
63 Rhino Park
64 Greytown/ mooirivier origin trail
65 Tswane crater
66 Savuti
Moremi
3rd bridge
Xakanaxa
Nxai Pans
Makgadigadi Pans
East to west, north to south Namibia

Herman will be enjoying R1 000 of Goloso food soon.

Herman is also going to tackle Dos Sete Diablos with gusto


soon...

Without low range?[emoji33][emoji12]

2017/03/23, 10:51 AM
Mad Manny
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quack


Without low range?[emoji33][emoji12]

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Look between #41 & #42.
He lists the vehicles...

I have used the following Vehicles: Nissan HB, Jeep wrangler, Iveco 4x4,
Toyota Landcruiser, Triton,
Amarok auto and manual, 4 motion transporter, Datsun Safari, Nissan
Patrol

2017/03/23, 10:55 AM
Quack
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Manny


Look between #41 & #42.
He lists the vehicles...

I have used the following Vehicles: Nissan HB, Jeep


wrangler, Iveco 4x4, Toyota Landcruiser, Triton,
Amarok auto and manual, 4 motion transporter, Datsun
Safari, Nissan Patrol

Let me draw you pictja[emoji12]https://uploads.tapatalk-


cdn.com/201...6faaab75fd.png

2017/03/23, 03:22 PM
gualter
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Well done Herman well done

2017/03/23, 03:26 PM
Mad Manny
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Our 2nd Cinquenta qualifier is on his way...

2017/03/23, 03:48 PM
Mad Manny
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Our 3rd Cinquenta qualifier is also on his way...

Remembering all the trails & providing proof are causing the delays.

2017/03/23, 05:49 PM
Engel
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Thank you thank you! I have done quite a bit more than on the list. There
is some "private trails" in the moolmanshoek area we have done. Then also
stuff in Lesotho. Driving in Moz in the rural areas were the most fun. All
bridges would be damaged after rains and repaired in extremely primitive
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ways. There is quite a few trails I have done but cannot remember the
names.

So next would be the luderitz to walvis this year.

2017/03/23, 05:52 PM
Engel
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by KurtG


Baviaanskloof does not require low range, try again Herman
[emoji23]. I did it in a Forester.

Kurt, there is about 5 trails that do require lowrange. I did in once many
years ago where all the roads were washed away and the adventure bikes
could not make it. We had a patrol with a explorer that had a very hard
time.

2017/03/23, 05:56 PM
Rainier Vermaak
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Fortunately winning the challenge did not require successfully driving over a
log bridge.... :-)

2017/03/23, 05:57 PM
Engel
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rainier Vermaak


Fortunately winning the challenge did not require
successfully driving over a log bridge.... :-)

nope.

2017/03/23, 06:03 PM
JohanSlabbert
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by Engel


Thank you thank you! I have done quite a bit more than on
the list. There is some "private trails" in the moolmanshoek
area we have done. Then also stuff in Lesotho. Driving in
Moz in the rural areas were the most fun. All bridges would
be damaged after rains and repaired in extremely primitive
ways. There is quite a few trails I have done but cannot
remember the names.
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So next would be the luderitz to walvis this year.

Congrats Oom! Your voucher is on the way!

2017/03/23, 06:25 PM
rabbiddog
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rainier Vermaak


Fortunately winning the challenge did not require
successfully driving over a log bridge.... :-)

Hahahaha...;D forgot this.

This thread made me check up on what photos I still have, and think about
where we used to drive.

I can only get to around 30+ trails/mountain passes/dune driving etc with
proof (didn't have a camera prior).

Must still check if there are pic's from Nam, Bot's, Lesotho, and the farms,
private land, rivers and roads we used to drive on.

Guess it is time to re-visit some of the routs less traveled.

2017/03/23, 06:31 PM
Engel
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohanSlabbert


Congrats Oom! Your voucher is on the way!

Johan
1]oom se gat
2]Ek kom oor 2 weke. Ons kom nationals IPSC skiet in die kaap. So ek
gaan kyk of ek die hele spartan keboedel kan saambring as jy naby genoeg
is. Ek kom wel deur om te kom kuier.

2017/03/23, 06:46 PM
Hooly
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Net 'n voorstel wat van 'n kompetissie om die beste "logo" "kenteken" te
ontwerp vir elkeen van die uitdagings.... nie dat ek baie kreatief is nie maar
'n noemenswaardige uitdaging verdien 'n kenteken om op trots te wees!

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2017/03/23, 07:04 PM
Mad Manny
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hooly


Net 'n voorstel wat van 'n kompetissie om die beste "logo"
"kenteken" te ontwerp vir elkeen van die uitdagings.... nie
dat ek baie kreatief is nie maar 'n noemenswaardige
uitdaging verdien 'n kenteken om op trots te wees!

I asked Ink Monkey to come up with designs - I might as well have asked
Jollywood Productions.:o

The certificate must have two logos:

The 4x4 Community Forum one & the one for the specific challenge, be it
Dos Sete Diablos, Cento Extremos or Cinqencento.

Top Center must have "Utimate Trail Master"

The rest in pretty much standard, the persons name 'has successfully
completed' the nameof the one they've done etc...

2017/03/23, 07:08 PM
Fluffy
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Manny


[COLOR="#0000CD"]I asked Ink Monkey to come up with
designs - I might as well have asked Jollywood
Productions.:o

COLOR]

That's not very nice.

2017/03/23, 08:03 PM
KurtG
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by Engel


Kurt, there is about 5 trails that do require lowrange. I did in
once many years ago where all the roads were washed away
and the adventure bikes could not make it. We had a patrol
with a explorer that had a very hard time.

Ok Oom

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2017/03/23, 08:16 PM
Rainier Vermaak
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Manny


I asked Ink Monkey to come up with designs - I might as
well have asked Jollywood Productions.:o

The certificate must have two logos:

The 4x4 Community Forum one & the one for the specific
challenge, be it Dos Sete Diablos, Cento Extremos or
Cinqencento.

Top Center must have "Utimate Trail Master"

The rest in pretty much standard, the persons name 'has


successfully completed' the nameof the one they've done
etc...

You okes kill me, Jolly is NOT on the web and NOT using a keyboard and
now that is not good enough either....

2017/03/23, 08:19 PM
Mad Manny
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Seems lke these 3 challenges will be dominated by upcountry folk.


The Western Cape is suspiciously quiet...

2017/03/23, 08:23 PM
Rainier Vermaak
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Manny


Seems lke these 3 challenges will be dominated by
upcountry folk.
The Western Cape is suspiciously quiet...

Ratios Manny, ratios....

2017/03/23, 08:24 PM
Mad Manny
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rainier Vermaak

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You okes kill me, Jolly is NOT on the web and NOT using a
keyboard and now that is not good enough either....

So... are you designing a Certificate?

2017/03/23, 08:25 PM
Rainier Vermaak
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Manny


So... are you designing a Certificate?

Are you paying me out of that exorbitant registration fee?

2017/03/23, 08:27 PM
Mad Manny
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rainier Vermaak


Ratios Manny, ratios....

Are you implying the WC guys never engage Low Ratio?;D;D;D

2017/03/23, 08:31 PM
johannes14
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fluffy


That's not very nice.

It is called "promoting 4x4 ""

Calling people names and their vechiles is a good start ;D;D;D

2017/03/23, 08:32 PM
Mad Manny
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rainier Vermaak


Are you paying me out of that exorbitant registration fee?

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We've taken in R250 so far.
How much of it do you want?

2017/03/23, 08:36 PM
Mad Manny
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by johannes14


It is called "promoting 4x4 ""

Calling people names and their vechiles is a good start


;D;D;D

I'm not a fan of ignored mails.

But perhaps they were busy, so I've re-mailed them.

But anyone can submit suggestions & I look forward to seeing yours....

Hope it's as good as Rainier Vermaak's...:)

2017/03/23, 08:42 PM
johannes14
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Manny


I'm not a fan of ignored mails.

But perhaps they were busy, so I've re-mailed them.

But anyone can submit suggestions & I look forward to


seeing yours....

Hope it's as good as Rainier Vermaak's...:)

Some people actually have to work !! ;D

I still do not understand ?? When did this competition start ? If I


understand ,January 2017 ? Right ?? So , people have to work ???

Now you already have a winner ?? Is he employed ?? Is he SELF employed


???

Might not make a difference to you !! But think about it !!

2017/03/23, 08:42 PM
NEON DEON
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

I am in for the. 50 Trails as well as the extreme challenge, manny could I


suggest that a list of entries be posted.
I wold think that their would be a good couple of guys that have done or
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nearly done 50 trails , but i think we will be a hand full that will register to
take on the extreme challenge.
Think guys like Sakkie , DVR , Engel , Myself ...... Could be the only takers
, and arrangements would have to be made in order to facilitate the
challeges .

2017/03/23, 08:44 PM
NEON DEON
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Question , do we post the 50 Trails list here or mail it to you?

2017/03/23, 08:47 PM
johannes14
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by NEON DEON


I am in for the. 50 Trails as well as the extreme challenge,
manny could I suggest that a list of entries be posted.
I wold think that their would be a good couple of guys that
have done or nearly done 50 trails , but i think we will be a
hand full that will register to take on the extreme challenge.
Think guys like Sakkie , DVR , Engel , Myself ...... Could be
the only takers , and arrangements would have to be made
in order to facilitate the challeges .

Except for Sakkie , you are all self employed >:D Manny would also join !!

Not being nasty at all !! PLEASE , do not take it wrong !!! Just saying !!

2017/03/23, 08:47 PM
KurtG
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by NEON DEON


Question , do we post the 50 Trails list here or mail it to
you?

Mail it first, then it gets moderated and then posted (I think?)

2017/03/23, 08:47 PM
Mad Manny
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by johannes14


Some people actually have to work !! ;D

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I still do not understand ?? When did this competition start ?


If I understand ,January 2017 ? Right ?? So , people have to
work ???

Now you already have a winner ?? Is he employed ?? Is he


SELF employed ???

Might not make a difference to you !! But think about it !!

Maybe put the drink down & read the first 6 posts again.
Because you've got it so wrong I can't begin to correct you.

But if you have any positive comments, I'll welcome them.


But if you are just here to criticise then I suggest you go read a pool care
Thread, or something.

2017/03/23, 08:59 PM
JohanSlabbert
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by Engel


Johan
1]oom se gat
2]Ek kom oor 2 weke. Ons kom nationals IPSC skiet in die
kaap. So ek gaan kyk of ek die hele spartan keboedel kan
saambring as jy naby genoeg is. Ek kom wel deur om te
kom kuier.

Julle is welkom, ek is weg tot die 7de April maar my mensies sal mooi na
oom se gat kyk :)

2017/03/23, 08:59 PM
NEON DEON
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Being self employed does not make it any easier to go offroading , no work
no pay, no paid leave , and I am a hard boss to work for. But lets leave it
their, this is about going to out to play , and I am in .

2017/03/23, 09:16 PM
Engel
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohanSlabbert


Julle is welkom, ek is weg tot die 7de April maar my mensies
sal mooi na oom se gat kyk :)

.
ek is tussen 6 en 9 april daar.

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2017/03/23, 09:17 PM
Rainier Vermaak
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Manny

We have a Winner!!!
Herman 'Engel' is the first person to sign up, pay & submit
his list for the Cinquecento (50 Trails) Challenge...

50 Routes and trails by Herman Engelbrecht

1 Hennops
2 Hennops pride
3 Dewildt
4 Moletots river
5 Klein letaba river
6 Hobby park
7 Naboomspruit trail [new trail development]
8 Erroa 4x4
9 Chimes
10 Bapsfontein 4x4
11 Kungweni
12 Lichtenburg 4x4
13 Groenkloof 4x4
14 Gelandenwagen club 4x4 trail
15 Baboons pass
16 Chloorkop
17 Sandwani
18 Berakka
19 Mogatle
20 Brakkenduine
21 Off Chamber
22 Kershout Laagte
23 Vleesbaai dune route
24 Atlantis
25 Melkbos strand
26 Hunters road Botswana
27 Guma lagoon maun/caprivi
28 Kalagadi Transfrontier
29 Base 4
30 Lethele Lesotho
31 Kruger National Park 4x4
32 Moolmans hoek
33 Rebellie
34 Mahem
35 Moz Route Pemba, Palma, Lighthouse
36 Moz Afungi Pinensula
37 Palma 4x4 training venue
38 Quionga to ravuma river Tanzania
39 Huntersroad Hunting area South Ngwahla
40 Swakop / walvis Dunes route
41 PMB Mountain route
I have used the following Vehicles: Nissan HB, Jeep
wrangler, Iveco 4x4, Toyota Landcruiser, Triton,

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Amarok auto and manual, 4 motion transporter, Datsun


Safari, Nissan Patrol.
42 Pinetown 4x4 route
43 Landrover experience Kyalami
44 Gerotec 4x4 trail
45 African Offroad
46 AAHD training grounds
47 Springs 4x4
48 Bass lake
49 Bosvark 4x4
50 Gariep trip
51 Babelonstorin
52 Kama Rhino/ elephant sands/ Nata / Pans/ lekhubu
53 At se Gat
54 Zambia /Ndola
55 Diggers hole
56 Jobedi
57 Riverwilde
58 Zookamma
59 Rust de winter
60 Serendipity
61 Koranna getaway
62 Baviaans
63 Rhino Park
64 Greytown/ mooirivier origin trail
65 Tswane crater
66 Savuti
Moremi
3rd bridge
Xakanaxa
Nxai Pans
Makgadigadi Pans
East to west, north to south Namibia

Herman will be enjoying R1 000 of Goloso food soon.

Herman is also going to tackle Dos Sete Diablos with gusto


soon...

PS #6 & #49 are the same place, the name just changed...

I wish to lodge a formal protest against Herman being awarded the first
prize.

According to his list he has only submitted 73 trails, whereas the name of
the challenge clearly states that 500 trails is a minimum requirement to
earn this title.

The challenge is obviously more "challenging" than previously thought.

It might take 20 years to complete at 25 trails per year....

2017/03/23, 09:18 PM
JohanSlabbert
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

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Originally Posted by Engel


.
ek is tussen 6 en 9 april daar.

Ek hou vir oom 'n parking, maar dis 'n steil bult en mens moet in reverse...

2017/03/23, 09:22 PM
Rainier Vermaak
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohanSlabbert


Ek hou vir oom 'n parking, maar dis 'n steil bult en mens
moet in reverse...

Hy gaan eers in 2037 kwalifiseer.

Hoop jou plek is dan nog oop....

2017/03/23, 09:23 PM
Mad Manny
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Deon,
The procedures are in the relevant posts at the biginning of the Thread.

We have had 5 entries so far - all for the Cinquenta Desafios

I will certainly publish the names of those entering Dos Sete Diablos &
Cento Extremos if I get any...

2017/03/23, 09:24 PM
JohanSlabbert
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rainier Vermaak


Hy gaan eers in 2037 kwalifiseer.

Hoop jou plek is dan nog oop....

Teen daai tyd gaan R1000 hom nie eers vol maak nie

2017/03/23, 09:25 PM
Engel
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

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Originally Posted by Rainier Vermaak


I wish to lodge a formal protest against Herman being
awarded the first prize.

According to his list he has only submitted 73 trails, whereas


the name of the challenge clearly states that 500 trails is a
minimum requirement to earn this title.

The challenge is obviously more "challenging" than


previously thought.

It might take 20 years to complete at 25 trails per year....

I did a training count that excluded my trail trips, and that landed up at
around 400 trips that included 4x4 low range, and high speed gravel control
as well as lane changes and emergency maneuvers [moose test]. In moz it
was called miss the cyclist!

2017/03/23, 09:26 PM
Rainier Vermaak
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohanSlabbert


Teen daai tyd gaan R1000 hom nie eers vol maak nie

Het jy hom gesien, dit sal moontlik nou al 'n probleem wees.

2017/03/23, 09:27 PM
JohanSlabbert
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rainier Vermaak


Het jy hom gesien, dit sal moontlik nou al 'n probleem wees.

I like it when I open a door and someone notices ;D

2017/03/23, 09:28 PM
Engel
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohanSlabbert


Ek hou vir oom 'n parking, maar dis 'n steil bult en mens
moet in reverse...

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grapjas. Ek kom met 'n RX, nie n amarok nie ok

2017/03/23, 09:29 PM
Fluffy
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by Engel


.

grapjas. Ek kom met 'n RX, nie n amarok nie ok

Whats an RX

2017/03/23, 09:29 PM
Rainier Vermaak
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by Engel


.

grapjas. Ek kom met 'n RX, nie n amarok nie ok

Wanneer ry jy die ander 427 trails?

2017/03/23, 09:31 PM
Engel
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fluffy


Whats an RX

rx8 mazda. google oom

2017/03/23, 09:31 PM
JohanSlabbert
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fluffy


Whats an RX

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A fancy appliance that can reverse

2017/03/23, 09:34 PM
Engel
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohanSlabbert


A fancy appliance that can reverse

.
IOW its not as green as a prius.

2017/03/23, 09:35 PM
JohanSlabbert
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by Engel


.
IOW its not as green as a prius.

So the winner of Mannys ultimate 4x4 challenge goes and mentions a Prius.

*slits wrists

2017/03/23, 09:38 PM
Fluffy
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by Engel


rx8 mazda. google oom

Doubt the pizza boy will be able to parallel park a RX8 outside his soup
kitchen.

I was thinking the Lexus RX.

Serious consideration for the near future.

2017/03/24, 08:49 AM
Engel
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fluffy

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Lexus RX.

like a prius...

2017/03/24, 09:41 AM
grips
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by Engel


I did a training count that excluded my trail trips, and that
landed up at around 400 trips that included 4x4 low range,
and high speed gravel control as well as lane changes and
emergency maneuvers [moose test]. In moz it was called
miss the cyclist!

Geluk Engel. ;D;D

I am busy with my list of 50. More difficult than I thought. Did lots of trips
before the age of the digital cameras. Need to work through boxes of old
photo`s for evidence. Then there are still a lot I have done without a single
photo taken:mad::mad:

2017/03/24, 09:50 AM
Rainier Vermaak
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by grips


Geluk Engel. ;D;D

I am busy with my list of 50. More difficult than I thought.


Did lots of trips before the age of the digital cameras. Need
to work through boxes of old photo`s for evidence. Then
there are still a lot I have done without a single photo
taken:mad::mad:

500 Grips, 500....

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2017/03/24, 09:52 AM
Engel
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

must be cinquento then....

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2017/03/24, 10:07 AM
Rainier Vermaak
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by Engel


must be cinquento then....

Ek sien die Porra het die naam reggemaak, dit moet Cinquenta wees.

En ten minste is dit nou nie meer Italiaans nie.

2017/03/24, 10:12 AM
Mad Manny
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rainier Vermaak


500 Grips, 500....

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...6a202f9c62.png

You can carry on & on & on like an old women with a wet pantie.;D
Gualter told me it was Cinquecento, I've edited my posts to show
Cinquento.

Now, have you designed a certificate?


Have you entered any of the 3 Challenges?
Do you remember how to engage 'Laebestek'?

2017/03/24, 10:14 AM
MARIUSJNR
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Manny


You can carry on & on & on like an old women with a wet
pantie.;D
Gualter told me it was Cinquecento, I've edited my posts to
show Cinquento.

Now, have you designed a certificate?


Have you entered any of the 3 Challenges?
Do you remember how to engage 'Laebestek'?

We got the mail last night so the design is being done today for all of the
logos certificates and stickers will have it done later today.

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2017/03/24, 10:29 AM
Rainier Vermaak
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Manny


You can carry on & on & on like an old women with a wet
pantie.;D
Gualter told me it was Cinquecento, I've edited my posts to
show Cinquento.

Now, have you designed a certificate?


Have you entered any of the 3 Challenges?
Do you remember how to engage 'Laebestek'?

At least I am an old woman that knows the difference between 50 and


500....[emoji55]

2017/03/24, 10:31 AM
grips
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rainier Vermaak


500 Grips, 500....

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Dankie tog dis 50 en nie 500 nie. Sukkel reeds met my 50;D;D

2017/03/24, 02:42 PM
gualter
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Manny


You can carry on & on & on like an old women with a wet
pantie.;D
Gualter told me it was Cinquecento, I've edited my posts to
show Cinquento.

You're a special kind aren't you?

And its cinquent(A)


With a A!!!! forfivesix

You're the God of "Igetitwrong50timesbeforeigetitrite"

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2017/03/24, 04:04 PM
Gympee
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by gualter


You're a special kind aren't you?

And its cinquent(A)


With a A!!!! forfivesix

You're the God of "Igetitwrong50timesbeforeigetitrite"

Brilliant...

Kind Regards
Gympee

2017/03/24, 05:29 PM
rechardt
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rainier Vermaak


Ek sien die Porra het die naam reggemaak, dit moet
Cinquenta wees.

En ten minste is dit nou nie meer Italiaans nie.

Wat n skande.....ñ porra wat nie eers Portuguees kan praat nie...

2017/03/24, 06:58 PM
JohanSlabbert
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by rechardt


Wat n skande.....ñ porra wat nie eers Portuguees kan praat
nie...

Die arme man het nie eers 'n 4x4 nie en nou kom beledig jy nog sy afkoms
ook :-\

2017/03/24, 07:29 PM
Apocalypse
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Can we give Manny the Jacob Zuma award for accounting?

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2017/03/24, 07:55 PM
rechardt
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohanSlabbert


Die arme man het nie eers 'n 4x4 nie en nou kom beledig jy
nog sy afkoms ook :-\

Sorrieeee[emoji17]

2017/03/24, 08:00 PM
JohanSlabbert
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by Apocalypse


Can we give Manny the Jacob Zuma award for accounting?

You're just jealous you didn't get a meal voucher

2017/03/24, 08:17 PM
KurtG
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by Apocalypse


Can we give Manny the Jacob Zuma award for accounting?

Which challenge(s) have you entered?

2017/03/24, 08:18 PM
Apocalypse
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by KurtG


Which challenge(s) have you entered?

None .

I'm unlikely to be in jhb in the next couple of years , so it's kinda pointless
as it's by and large a jhb event...

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2017/03/24, 08:22 PM
JohanSlabbert
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by Apocalypse


None .

I'm unlikely to be in jhb in the next couple of years , so it's


kinda pointless as it's by and large a jhb event...

If I get a fake beard I'll pass as you, but what will you do to pass ass me?

2017/03/24, 08:23 PM
Apocalypse
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohanSlabbert


If I get a fake beard I'll pass as you, but what will you do to
pass ass me?

Rest assured

I'll pass on your ass.

2017/03/24, 08:39 PM
JohanSlabbert
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by Apocalypse


Rest assured

I'll pass on your ass.

I am very relieved

2017/03/24, 10:56 PM
Rainier Vermaak
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by Apocalypse


Can we give Manny the Jacob Zuma award for accounting?

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That is not fair. He got it right on the five million and ten one hundred thirty
thousand 6 billionth time....

2017/03/25, 07:36 AM
KurtG
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by Apocalypse


None .

I'm unlikely to be in jhb in the next couple of years , so it's


kinda pointless as it's by and large a jhb event...

Oh yes, it's across the border for you capies, completely impassable
[emoji23]

2017/03/26, 10:46 AM
Rainier Vermaak
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Do we have an updated list of entries?

2017/03/26, 02:04 PM
Mad Manny
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by gualter


You're a special kind aren't you?

And its cinquent(A)


With a A!!!! forfivesix

You're the God of "Igetitwrong50timesbeforeigetitrite"

Yes, but you sent me Cinquoenta, not Cinquenta, so autocorrect changed


Cinquoenta to Cinquecento...
Capish?

2017/03/26, 02:11 PM
Mad Manny
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by Apocalypse


I'm unlikely to be in jhb in the next couple of years , so it's
kinda pointless as it's by and large a jhb event...

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Yes, I'm not aware of much 4x4'ing taking place amongst out coastal
brethren.
It's largely an 'UpCountry' activity...

2017/03/26, 02:12 PM
JohanSlabbert
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Manny


Yes, but you sent me Cinquoenta, not Cinquenta, so
autocorrect changed Cinquoenta to Cinquecento...
Capish?

On that point.

We want our own special local event based award.

You know, us Capies don't travel, because we already have paradise here,
this side of the pretty mountains.

Please Oom? I'll throw in a R50 meal voucher ;D

2017/03/26, 02:20 PM
Jeanvn
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohanSlabbert


On that point.

We want our own special local event based award.

You know, us Capies don't travel, because we already have


paradise here, this side of the pretty mountains.

Please Oom? I'll throw in a R50 meal voucher ;D

What does that buy you 1 craft beer? [emoji106]

2017/03/26, 02:21 PM
JohanSlabbert
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeanvn


What does that buy you 1 craft beer? [emoji106]

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With enough change for a tip ;D

2017/03/26, 02:22 PM
Jeanvn
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohanSlabbert


With enough change for a tip ;D

Well played.

2017/03/26, 02:42 PM
Mad Manny
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rainier Vermaak


Do we have an updated list of entries?

I'll check, I was away camping at Sondela & I did Bridgestone Challenge on
Saturday.
So I've been neglecting my keyboard (much as you haven't).

2017/03/26, 02:46 PM
Rainier Vermaak
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Manny


I'll check, I was away camping at Sondela & I did
Bridgestone Challenge on Saturday.
So I've been neglecting my keyboard (much as you
haven't).

I have your back wrt keyboard usage.

You're welcome.

2017/03/26, 05:17 PM
Mad Manny
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Another four Cinquenta qualifiers coming through later tonight...

2017/03/26, 05:32 PM
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Quote:

Originally Posted by Reenen


Tel die top van Duin 5?

Tel pelican point?

Glo nie ....


N bmw was ook al daar .... 2 bmw's .... nou dat ek daaraan dink

2017/03/26, 08:31 PM
Reenen
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Maar ek gaan oktober waterford duine ook aandurf met einste merc...,
gaan dit dan ook afgehaal word...

En selfde merc het al heel lekker gespeel in atlantis... wat ook op lys is...
en sossosvlei.... En wat is daai pad tussen swakop en windhoek? C28??

2017/03/26, 09:37 PM
Mad Manny
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Our first Cinquenta Qualifier was Engel.

Our 2nd is Jurgen Steyn

1 Nxai pans NP
2 Moremi NP
3 Chobe NP
4 Hwange NP
5 Vic Falls both sides
6 Limpopo NP
7 Sani pass
8 Bastervoetpat pass
9 Lundeons nek pass
10 Gamkap canyon riverbed
11 Sossusvlei
12 Sandwich habour
13 Naukluft 4x4 trail
14 Daredevil dunes 4x4 playground
15 Ruacana to Epupa next to Kunene
16 Van Zyls Pass
17 Marienfluss up to Kunene
18 Ondau mountain
19 Hartmanns up to Serra Caferma
20 All 4 Drums of Kaokoland
21 Khumib riverbed
22 Horusib riverbed
23 Hoanib riverbed
24 Khowarib riverbed
25 Beesvlakte
26 Doros crater
27 Kahn riverbed
28 Maitland mines 4x4 trail
29 Offcamber 4x4 trail
30 Brakkeduine 4x4 trail

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31 Zookama 4x4 trail
32 Meadows 4x4 trail
33 Bundu 4x4 trail
34 Ferndale 4x4 trail
35 Hennops 4x4 trail
36 Moegatle 4x4 trail
37 Rhino park 4x4 trail
38 Malabar 4x4 playground
39 UPE fence 4x4 playground
40 Jagtvlakte 4x4 playground
41 Chloorkop 4x4 playground
42 Baviaans
43 Die Hel
44 Doornkloof 4x4 trail
45 Makkedaat 4x4 trail
46 Gonjah 4x4 trail
47 De Wildt 4x4 trail
48 Karoo NP 4x4 trail
49 Bosvark 4x4 trail
50 Mikes pass
51 Otto du Plessis pass
52 Volunteers Hoek pass
53 Ganamub riverbed
54 Red Drum pass
55 Bokloof 4x4 trail
56 Dans Den 4x4 playground
57 Central Kalahari NP
58 Bedrogsfontein 4x4 trail
59 Groenkloof 4x4 trail
60 Kalagadi NP
61 Mahem
62 Gerotec 4x4 trail
63 Baines Boababs
64 Makgadigadi pans
65 Fishing spots North of Henties

2017/03/26, 09:40 PM
Mad Manny
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Our first Cinquenta Qualifier was Engel.


Our 2nd was Jurgen Steyn.
The 3rd is Ben Van Dyk.

Ben's list
1. Tala Game Reserve
2. Ithala Game Reserve
3. Nothingham Road Snow
4. Nokaneng to Dobe
5. Holboom
6. West Pan Handle - Delta
7. CKGR
8. Kubu Island
9. Khama Rhino Sanctuary
10. Amatikulu
11. Toti Waterfal Trip
12. Thaba Moia
13. Klein Letaba River
14. Molotots River
15. Berakah
16. Nata Bird Sanctuary
17. Kukonje Island
18. Hennops
19. Bainage
20. Kungwini
21. Gerotek

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22. Soetdoring
23. Sani Pass
24. Rampai Pass
25. Letele Pass
26. Baboons Pass
27. Solane
28. Mafefe
29. Wolkberge
30. Lekgalameetse
31. Mozambique - Ponta
32. Sosusvlei
33. Swakop Dunes
34. Old Railway Formation Track
35. Rebellie
36. Rhino & Lion Reserve
37. Rust de Winter Bundu Trail
38. Rust de Winter Gymkana
39. Shongweni Waterfal
40. Black Rock
41. Kosi Bay
42. Kranspoort
43. Lake Eland
44. Groenkloof
45. Killarney 4x4
46. Vernon Crookes
47. Highstakes
48. Gwahumbe
49. Moegatle
50. De Wildt
51. Rhino Park
52. Addo Elephant Park
53. Mabalingwe
54. Zambia Ndola
55. Various Giyani River Trips

2017/03/26, 09:45 PM
Mad Manny
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Summary (as @ 26 March 22:00):


Currently we have 3 Cenquenta Qualifiers:
Engel, Jurgen Steyn & Ben Van Dyk.

Flipside has submitted his list of 50, it's verified, but I'm waiting for
payment before I can post.

Two people have entered Sete Dos Diablos: Grips & Francois Herbst.

No one has entered Cinco Extremos, but I know of two or three who say
they will.

2017/03/27, 06:28 AM
NEON DEON
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Manny I have mailed my list to you and have completed the entry form ,
please let me know if you received them. If not then I will re submit .

2017/03/27, 09:40 AM
Mad Manny
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

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Our first Cinquenta Qualifier was Engel.


Our 2nd was Jurgen Steyn.
The 3rd was Ben Van Dyk.

The 4th Cinquenta Qualifier is Flipside...

Flipside 4x4 trails


1. Chimes
2. Chloorkop
3. Groenkloof 4x4
4. De Wildt 4x4
5. Sandwani
6. 4x4 Kungwini
7. Rust de Winter
8. Hennops 4x4
9. Hennops Pride
10. Moegatle
11. At se gat
12. Jobedi
13. Otto du Plessis Pass
14. Piet se pad(Baberton)
15. Riverwild
16. Nzikazi River (near Kruger gate)
17. Paradise dunes (Wildernis)
18. Vleesbaai dunes
19. Bonniedale Outeniqua Mountains
20. Steynsrus 4x4
21. Lichtenburg 4x4
22. Gerotek 4x4
23. Hobby Park
24. Berakah eco Trail
25. Base4 Trail
26. Badplaas nature reserve 4x4 route
27. Bass Lake
28. Serendipity
29. Tswain crater
30. Iquana (Dinokeng, does it count?)
31. Trompie 4x4 (Wolwekloof)
32. Rhino Park
33. Olifantsrivier Lodge 4x4 (nature reserve)
34. Heidelberg 4x4
35. Spookspruit (Heidelberg)
36. Zilkaatsnek Quarry & Trail( Harties)
37. Leeuwenkloof
38. De Rust (African Outdoor Group)
39. Kameel 4x4 (kameeldrif) :)
40. Rosslyn Quarry
41. Voortrekkerhoogte Skietbaan hills
42. Kamonande Game Park 4x4 Trail (Vaalwater)
43. André de Villiers Game Farm 4x4 Trail (Waterberg)
44. Modderrivier/ Krugerdrift Bloemfontein
45. Pta East/ Menlyn LA Sport 4x4 track
46. LA Sport Voortrekker rd track
47. Krugersdorp Nature reserve 4x4 trail
48. Springs to Cullinan Railway trail
49. Beestekraal 4x4 Track
50. Meiringskloof 4x4 Trail (Fouriesburg)
51. Naude's Nek Pass
52. Lundin's Nek Pass
53. Perdenek
54. Joubert's Pass
55. Greylings Pass
56. Waschbank Pass (now called Barker's Nek)
57. Prince Alfreds Pass
58. Montagu Pass

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was not the princial driver, we did not submit them.

2017/03/27, 03:59 PM
Sakkie
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

I've lost track of many of these routes.....but here are some memorable
ones

1. Schamach!!!!!!! Rooi Koos was in 'n klas van sy eie, en JP se skuins hang
2. Battle of the Dunes (Lifetime event!!)
3. Carnage Canyon - Kom Ronald..wanneer weer?
4. Lethaba River route. Nooit dieselfde sonder Willem
5. Swazi Erg Lekker route!!!!! (PUIK Castos, puik)
6. Henties to Kunene (dankie oom Jannie)
7. Inanda river route (daai een het ek voor gery)
8. Zevenfontein se eienaar wat die kinders op die sleepwa rondgery het was
spesiaal (en sy sinktank toilet)
9. Bass Lake nat in die nag (Jeep en GWagon gerol daai nag)
10. ATLANTIS!!!!!! saam met die Friday AVI malletjies....en daai spesiale
onnoembare een saam met Hein en die boys

Dan is daar natuurlik die klip in die oos Transvaal wat nog net twee mense
gery het, en een is nie meer met ons nie (RIP my groot maat)

Ek het so vinnig op 84 uitgekom wat ek kan onthou...van Walvis se Battle


of the Dunes tot by Umkumaas se rivier roete af tot by Ostrich in die suid
kaap.

Edit!!! (En nou dink ek skielik......ek maak die eienaars ryk!!!! en die petrol
maatskappye ook)!!!!

2017/03/27, 05:26 PM
Engel
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

nou dat ek na Jurgen en Flip se lys kyk besef n mens hoeveel jy entlik
vergeet. Ek update my eie lysie en raak nou aan 100. Maar dit is iets wat
maar oor die jare bygekom het. Daar was ook n hele hoop roetes wat ek
gladnie die naam van kon onthou nie. Ek het nog baie min in KZN gedoen,
en ek weet daar is n klompie.

2017/03/27, 05:29 PM
grips
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by Engel


nou dat ek na Jurgen en Flip se lys kyk besef n mens
hoeveel jy entlik vergeet. Ek update my eie lysie en raak
nou aan 100. Maar dit is iets wat maar oor die jare bygekom
het. Daar was ook n hele hoop roetes wat ek gladnie die
naam van kon onthou nie. Ek het nog baie min in KZN
gedoen, en ek weet daar is n klompie.

Yip ek soek ook na name van vergete roetes. En dan die blerrie foto
evidence.;D;D
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2017/03/27, 07:15 PM
NEON DEON
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Sakkie daai roete waar daai klip is wat jy en Willie gery het is toe, nuwe
eienaars wat nie wil he daar moet op hul grond gery word nie. So daai klip
sal vir altyd net twee oorwinnaars he. Jy en Willie.
Carnage canyon , daai een moet jy nog klaar maak , hy jou elke keer
geknie halter met iets wat breek , as daar n paar mense is wat hom wil
gaan probeer dan maak ons so.

2017/03/27, 08:12 PM
Flipside
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

I have also realised how many destinations and trails are still on my bucket
list.
An unintended benefit of this thread is that it will also become a fantastic
reference point of where else to go for the next outing.
And some great ones should be revisited.
For example I see there is now a challenge to do the BEN 10 passes in the
Eastern Cape highlands in 7 days. This could be an excellent long weekend
excursion too.

2017/03/28, 07:42 AM
Sakkie
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by NEON DEON


Sakkie daai roete waar daai klip is wat jy en Willie gery het
is toe, nuwe eienaars wat nie wil he daar moet op hul grond
gery word nie. So daai klip sal vir altyd net twee
oorwinnaars he. Jy en Willie.

Ek hoor die naweek nadat ons daar was, was daar 'n ander klub met 'n
paar manne wat van vêr af gekom het om daai klip aan te vat, en almal het
maar net weer om gedraai toe hulle sien wat hy rerig is.

Quote:

Originally Posted by NEON DEON


Carnage canyon , daai een moet jy nog klaar maak , hy jou
elke keer geknie halter met iets wat breek , as daar n paar
mense is wat hom wil gaan probeer dan maak ons so.

Aikona, die eerste keer was Granny op die "strand" nadat ek en Willie die
steering tierod geweld het. Die enigste voertuig wat daai keer verder
gegaan het was daai wille pypkar met die 44s op. Die tweede keer moes ek
opgee oor die side shaft. Adele treur nou nog daar oor. Sy vra my kort-kort
wanneer gaan ons weer.

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2017/03/28, 09:41 AM
4RNRRON
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sakkie


I've lost track of many of these routes.....but here are some
memorable ones

1. Schamach!!!!!!! Rooi Koos was in 'n klas van sy eie, en JP


se skuins hang
2. Battle of the Dunes (Lifetime event!!)
3. Carnage Canyon - Kom Ronald..wanneer weer?
4. Lethaba River route. Nooit dieselfde sonder Willem
5. Swazi Erg Lekker route!!!!! (PUIK Castos, puik)
6. Henties to Kunene (dankie oom Jannie)
7. Inanda river route (daai een het ek voor gery)
8. Zevenfontein se eienaar wat die kinders op die sleepwa
rondgery het was spesiaal (en sy sinktank toilet)
9. Bass Lake nat in die nag (Jeep en GWagon gerol daai
nag)
10. ATLANTIS!!!!!! saam met die Friday AVI malletjies....en
daai spesiale onnoembare een saam met Hein en die boys

Dan is daar natuurlik die klip in die oos Transvaal wat nog
net twee mense gery het, en een is nie meer met ons nie
(RIP my groot maat)

Ek het so vinnig op 84 uitgekom wat ek kan onthou...van


Walvis se Battle of the Dunes tot by Umkumaas se rivier
roete af tot by Ostrich in die suid kaap.

Edit!!! (En nou dink ek skielik......ek maak die eienaars


ryk!!!! en die petrol maatskappye ook)!!!!

Ek het so pas my lys ingestuur en betaal.

Het maar min bewyse vir al die roetes, het in elk geval nie tyd om alles te
gaan soek nie, net die breinkrag wat nodig was om alles te onthou, was
uitputtend genoeg! ;D

Sakkie, Carnage Canyon is weer aan, die naweek van die 16/17 Junie, sal
lekker wees as jy dit kan maak!

Sien jy het ook Schamach in Nylstroom op, dit was 'n baie lekker roete!
Jammer die nuwe eienaars wou nie aangaan met die roete nie!

2017/03/28, 09:46 AM
Engel
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flipside


I have also realised how many destinations and trails are
still on my bucket list.
An unintended benefit of this thread is that it will also
become a fantastic reference point of where else to go for
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the next outing.


And some great ones should be revisited.
For example I see there is now a challenge to do the BEN 10
passes in the Eastern Cape highlands in 7 days. This could
be an excellent long weekend excursion too.

.
tell me more!

2017/03/28, 10:58 AM
Sakkie
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4RNRRON

Sakkie, Carnage Canyon is weer aan, die naweek van die


16/17 Junie, sal lekker wees as jy dit kan maak!

SIT MY NAAM OP DIE LYS ASB RON!!!!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4RNRRON

Sien jy het ook Schamach in Nylstroom op, dit was 'n baie
lekker roete! Jammer die nuwe eienaars wou nie aangaan
met die roete nie!

BAIE jammer. Min roetes wat soveel toetsertjies in het. Ons sit een oggend
nog in die kamp toe 'n outjie daar aankom, alleen, en toe nie eers die
toegang tot die roete kon op kom nie.

Jy sal die onthou....Bliksem, As af, Rooi Ribbok Rant....en natuurlik Rooi


Koos se ou Cruzer waarvan die diffs vas geweld was!!!!

2017/03/28, 11:14 AM
JP
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sakkie


SIT MY NAAM OP DIE LYS ASB RON!!!!!

BAIE jammer. Min roetes wat soveel toetsertjies in het. Ons


sit een oggend nog in die kamp toe 'n outjie daar aankom,
alleen, en toe nie eers die toegang tot die roete kon op kom
nie.

Jy sal die onthou....Bliksem, As af, Rooi Ribbok Rant....


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Sakkie, jy moet ook nie van Poer vergeet nie ;)

Daai skuinshang . . . . . . ;D ;D EISH !!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sakkie


en natuurlik Rooi Koos se ou Cruzer waarvan die diffs vas
geweld was!!!!

Kameel !! Hy gebruik hom nou nog om sy geel skippie te launch op Port


Edward ;)

2017/03/28, 11:16 AM
4RNRRON
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sakkie


SIT MY NAAM OP DIE LYS ASB RON!!!!!

BAIE jammer. Min roetes wat soveel toetsertjies in het. Ons


sit een oggend nog in die kamp toe 'n outjie daar aankom,
alleen, en toe nie eers die toegang tot die roete kon op kom
nie.

Jy sal die onthou....Bliksem, As af, Rooi Ribbok Rant....en


natuurlik Rooi Koos se ou Cruzer waarvan die diffs vas
geweld was!!!!

Sal jou opsit, gaan lekker wees...

Ja, ou Rooi Koos se Cruiser was 'n Legend!

2017/03/28, 12:14 PM
NEON DEON
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Ronald kan jy my ook op jou lys sit en die details pm .

2017/03/28, 01:13 PM
grips
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Dis nou lekker om te sien die Groot Kanonne is ook in hier by die groot
goed.;D;D

Hoop die Ultra Trial Master kry meer 4x4`s vol stof;D

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2017/03/28, 01:55 PM
Flipside
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by Engel


.
tell me more!

Have a look here:


https://www.mountainpassessouthafric...ass/ben10.html
Looks like a lovely outing and a trip in a largely forgotten part of the
country with views to remember.

2017/03/28, 05:06 PM
Engel
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

ek wonder of die kombi dit sal kan doen...

2017/03/28, 05:13 PM
JurgenSteyn
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by Engel


ek wonder of die kombi dit sal kan doen...

Engel ek reken so. Ekt meeste vd passe gery en het nog vir my pa gese hy
moet sy california bring volgende keer.

Daai Rhodes huisies in die winter met die sneeu en kaggelvuur is darem
maar 'n lekker stopover!

Ek sal wel bastervoetpad in die afwaartse rigting ry dus van wes na oos net
omdat 'n T5 se clutch maar swaar sal leef as mens daai pas op ry omdat
mens dikwels stadiger as idle 1ste moet ry.

Pragtige wereld daai! Ek kan nie wag om self weer daar uit te kom nie!

2017/03/28, 05:17 PM
4RNRRON
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by NEON DEON


Ronald kan jy my ook op jou lys sit en die details pm .

Sal so maak Deon.

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2017/03/28, 05:38 PM
Flipside
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by Engel


ek wonder of die kombi dit sal kan doen...

Kan ek die Jimny inlaai?


Sal hom gebruik om die bus teen die bulte op te sleep - a la Haailux

2017/03/28, 06:26 PM
Reenen
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4RNRRON


Ek het so pas my lys ingestuur en betaal.

Het maar min bewyse vir al die roetes, het in elk geval nie
tyd om alles te gaan soek nie, net die breinkrag wat nodig
was om alles te onthou, was uitputtend genoeg! ;D

Sakkie, Carnage Canyon is weer aan, die naweek van die


16/17 Junie, sal lekker wees as jy dit kan maak!

Sien jy het ook Schamach in Nylstroom op, dit was 'n baie
lekker roete! Jammer die nuwe eienaars wou nie aangaan
met die roete nie!

Asb, kan ek en my plat Datsun ook kom?

2017/03/28, 06:38 PM
Jeanvn
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reenen


Asb, kan ek en my plat Datsun ook kom?

Dit gaan te vinnig vir my wees om my tjiep op daai vlak te kry maar ek kan
petrol geld gee vir n seat as jy mag saamgaan. [emoji1]

2017/03/28, 06:42 PM
Daniek
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

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Originally Posted by Mad Manny


III. Cinquenta Desafios
(50 Trails Challenge)
The 50 Trails Challenge is simple, you must just have
completed 50 Trails or Overlanding trips, where you were
the principle driver, at any time in your lifetime.

Please Note: You can only list a place ONCE, no matter


how many times you have done it.
Between Hennops, De Wildt, Moegatle & Att Se Gat I have
over 25 visits. But those will only count as 4 'venues'.

WARNING: I will pick 3 or 4 of the 50 & ask you to prove


you were there. Inconclusively.

What Trails/Trips Qualify:


Any 4x4 Trail like; De Wildt, Hennops, Atlantis Dunes,
Brakkeduine etc.
Any overlanding trip in Southern Africa; Richtersveld,
Kalagadi, Zambia, Namibia etc.
Note:The competitor must have been the principle driver, in
his/her own vehicle & accommodation must have been
(largely) camping (Ground Tent, TTT or RTT).
A trip to Botswana in a tour group using hired vehicles &
staying in pre-erected tented camps & cabins does not
qualify.
How it Works:
1. Complete the online registration form on
[www.4x4actiongroup.co.za, click on Event Calendar]
2. Pay the Registration Fee of R50.00 using your name,
followed by 50 (Cinquecento) as the reference.
3. Submit your evidence & documentation
[madmannydefreitas@yebo.co.za (drop the mad)].
4. The competitor will then be sent a Competitor Number.
5. Once 50 are completed, it will be announced & a
Certificate will be issued.

Will track logs count as evidence?


Attachment 440527

2017/03/28, 06:44 PM
Reenen
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeanvn


Dit gaan te vinnig vir my wees om my tjiep op daai vlak te
kry maar ek kan petrol geld gee vir n seat as jy mag
saamgaan. [emoji1]

Niks fout met jou tjiep. Selfde as myne.

Ek gaan myne net nog so n 2" lift gee.

Maar jy is welkom om in te klim...

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Ons behoort darem seker daar te kom met 2 dae se ry... die nuwe kleiner
engine behoort ons daar te kry...

2017/03/28, 06:49 PM
Flipside
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daniek


Will track logs count as evidence?
Attachment 440527

Nice! :)

2017/03/28, 06:59 PM
Reenen
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeanvn


Dit gaan te vinnig vir my wees om my tjiep op daai vlak te
kry maar ek kan petrol geld gee vir n seat as jy mag
saamgaan. [emoji1]

Niks fout met jou tjiep. Selfde as myne.

Ek gaan myne net nog so n 2" lift gee.

Maar jy is welkom om in te klim...


Ons behoort darem seker daar te kom met 2 dae se ry... die nuwe kleiner
engine behoort ons daar te kry...

2017/03/28, 10:04 PM
Jeanvn
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reenen


Niks fout met jou tjiep. Selfde as myne.

Ek gaan myne net nog so n 2" lift gee.

Maar jy is welkom om in te klim...


Ons behoort darem seker daar te kom met 2 dae se ry... die
nuwe kleiner engine behoort ons daar te kry...

Haha nee hy het 2 minder diff locks en is nou 30mm laer onder die pens na
ek die spacers uitgehaal het [emoji85] ons ken ook nie die manne nie en
nooi klaar ons self, wil nou nie vas sit heeltyd en hulle om krap ook nie!

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2017/03/29, 06:55 AM
NEON DEON
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Jean , Ek wil nie laat dit klink of ek groot praat nie , maar as jy nie goeie
ground clearance en ten minste 33 op jou tj het nie gaan jy sukkel in
Carnage , skade gaan jy beslis he , ek het op ons laaste aanslag n skok
breker afgery op n klip . En my jeep ry op 35s met 4.5 duim lift . Ek moet
by se dat ek Carnage al twee keer met my JK gery het en oorweeg om dalk
my TJ te vat, TJ darem ook nie standaart nie , 4.5 lift , 33s met lockers .
Kan dalk die pyp rook .
Dit gese , oortuig vir Reenen en kom kuier hier bo by ons, Ek het al vir
Reenen ontmoet by Honingklip so julle darem nie heeltemal vreemd nie en
ons is almal BROTHERS IN ARMS hier op die forum .

2017/03/29, 07:13 AM
Reenen
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by NEON DEON


Jean , Ek wil nie laat dit klink of ek groot praat nie , maar as
jy nie goeie ground clearance en ten minste 33 op jou tj het
nie gaan jy sukkel in Carnage , skade gaan jy beslis he , ek
het op ons laaste aanslag n skok breker afgery op n klip . En
my jeep ry op 35s met 4.5 duim lift . Ek moet by se dat ek
Carnage al twee keer met my JK gery het en oorweeg om
dalk my TJ te vat, TJ darem ook nie standaart nie , 4.5 lift ,
33s met lockers . Kan dalk die pyp rook .
Dit gese , oortuig vir Reenen en kom kuier hier bo by ons,
Ek het al vir Reenen ontmoet by Honingklip so julle darem
nie heeltemal vreemd nie en ons is almal BROTHERS IN
ARMS hier op die forum .

Ek is in...

Gaan hoeka vandag of more n stel 35" kry...

Wat werk beter daar: 33" muds of 35" AT?

Ek het darem so 12-14" lift op die stasiewa. En n lockertjie of 2

2017/03/29, 07:17 AM
Reenen
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Jean het darem ook baie lift en 33"..., hy kort net nog n locker.

2017/03/29, 07:52 AM
NEON DEON
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

35s werk beter , het nog nie At gery nie so kan jou nie antwoord nie . maar
laat weet of julle op kom .

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2017/03/29, 08:05 AM
Sakkie
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reenen


Jean het darem ook baie lift en 33"..., hy kort net nog n
locker.

Reenen, praat met Ronald. Hy lei die "toer", en hy het voorwaardes en


minimum standaarde. Met baie goeie rede. Ek was twee keer saam. Eerste
keer tierod gebreek wat ons kon weld, en klaar maak. Tweede keer side
shaft minder as 500m in die trail in. Nou moet ek by sê...dit was net 'n
Isuzu.

2017/03/29, 09:11 AM
Jeanvn
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by NEON DEON


Jean , Ek wil nie laat dit klink of ek groot praat nie , maar as
jy nie goeie ground clearance en ten minste 33 op jou tj het
nie gaan jy sukkel in Carnage , skade gaan jy beslis he , ek
het op ons laaste aanslag n skok breker afgery op n klip . En
my jeep ry op 35s met 4.5 duim lift . Ek moet by se dat ek
Carnage al twee keer met my JK gery het en oorweeg om
dalk my TJ te vat, TJ darem ook nie standaart nie , 4.5 lift ,
33s met lockers . Kan dalk die pyp rook .
Dit gese , oortuig vir Reenen en kom kuier hier bo by ons,
Ek het al vir Reenen ontmoet by Honingklip so julle darem
nie heeltemal vreemd nie en ons is almal BROTHERS IN
ARMS hier op die forum .

Dankie Deon

Ek en Reenen het altwee rubber arms as dit by 4x4 kom, as ons mag sal
ons daar wees ;D

My softroadertjie het dam 33" bande, 2" lift en 2" body lift, ek kan seker
weer die spacers (2") ook terugsit maar dit ry baie ongemaklik so.
Nadat ek die spacers uitgehaal het is my pens clearance so 310mm wat
seker te laag gaan wees vir Carnage, plus die oop diffs.
Ek is nogals lus om die TJ te verkoop en 'n SWB Rubi aan te skaf, as ek dit
betyds doen ry ek self. :)

2017/03/29, 09:16 AM
Jeanvn
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reenen

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Ek is in...

Gaan hoeka vandag of more n stel 35" kry...

Wat werk beter daar: 33" muds of 35" AT?

Ek het darem so 12-14" lift op die stasiewa. En n lockertjie


of 2

Gaan jy vir Ronald kontak?

As ons aan vereistes voldoen ry ek dan voorlopig saam met jou behalwe as
ek my gat roer en 'n rubi koop of lockertjies in softroadertjie sit.

2017/03/29, 09:36 AM
NEON DEON
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Payment made for cinco extremos & cinquencento 50 trails . Now I should
also be on the list

2017/03/29, 10:28 AM
DVR
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Daar het groot name met groot 4x4's al hard aarde toe gekom by Garnage
Canyon.
As ons onder begin was daar gewoonlik omtrend 20 voertuie en daar stop
net so 5 daar by die Beach. Tot die camera crew hardloop weg .
Ek sal maar met my plat Jeep met 33" op weer gaan probeer as ek
toegelaat word , daai Jeep van my is mos die groot pes.

2017/03/29, 10:49 AM
Reenen
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Asb asb, ons wil in wees

2017/03/29, 11:26 AM
4RNRRON
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

OK manne,

Sakkie en Reenen, julle uitnodigings vir Carnage Canyon 16-18 Junie


2017 is ge-epos.

As daar nog manne is wat wil kom, stuur asb vir my julle epos adresse, dan
stuur ek die uitnodiging aan.

Ek kan bogenoemde vir die rooibaarde in Engels vertaal, sê maar as julle


sukkel met die boeretaal. ;D

2017/03/29, 11:44 AM
NEON DEON
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Ronald ek het op jou epos geantwoord , maar indien jy nie gekyr het nie ,
dmc@absamail.co.za

2017/03/29, 02:20 PM
Sakkie
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

het hom Ron!!!!!


yes...yes ...yes!!!

2017/03/30, 06:24 AM
Naas le Roux
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4RNRRON


OK manne,

Sakkie en Reenen, julle uitnodigings vir Carnage Canyon


16-18 Junie 2017 is ge-epos.

As daar nog manne is wat wil kom, stuur asb vir my julle
epos adresse, dan stuur ek die uitnodiging aan.

Ek kan bogenoemde vir die rooibaarde in Engels vertaal, sê


maar as julle sukkel met die boeretaal. ;D

PM gestuur

2017/03/30, 12:27 PM
NEON DEON
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

I may be wrong and assuming things , and as the saying goes assuming
makes and ass out you and me , but since the mention of CARNAGE
CANYON all the possible trail masters have gone into hiding , this thread
has over 7000 views and has come to an abrupt stop .
I have entered two of the option in this tread , they easy 50 trails and the
CENQUE XTREMOS , think at this stage the only person to enter , no biggie
, and carnage comes as if on order so that we can tick it off , Jeep club is
going to Rust de winter so maybe a trip to superman , did KOOS SE KLIP
three weeks ago with the jeep club , Alex my witness that I completed it up
and down , carnage makes it 2 out of 5 , three to go , Manny put my name
on that winch ;D;D;D;D

2017/03/30, 12:35 PM
DVR
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Jy sien wat het ek gese in my post !!;D

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2017/03/30, 01:00 PM
NEON DEON
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Ek sien Dirk ,dit hoekom ek die kaste probeer rattle .

2017/03/30, 01:10 PM
Flipside
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

My kit is nog nie Carnage proof nie, maar my tong hang uit om by hom uit
te kom.
Miskien moet ek uitvind of ek iewers kan links voor of innie boot sit om dit
saam te beleef.

2017/03/30, 01:41 PM
NEON DEON
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Flip ek is amper seker daar sal vir jou n jump seat wees om saam te gaan ,
stuur jou details vir Ronald en vra vir n jump seat , Ons gaan die
donderdag aand by SOuth gate oor slaap . miskien kan jy jouself daar kry
en dan saam iemand ry .
sal ook vir jou probeer uit vind.

2017/03/30, 04:38 PM
Jeanvn
Re: Ultimate Trail Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flipside


My kit is nog nie Carnage proof nie, maar my tong hang uit
om by hom uit te kom.
Miskien moet ek uitvind of ek iewers kan links voor of innie
boot sit om dit saam te beleef.

Sit self en wonder, gaan my 'n klein karretjie se geld kos om my TJtjie reg
te kry.
Maar die trip wil ek baie graag doen.

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