good afternoon everybody I'm miss Cara I

said four triples sort of sink back deep

into them guru I'm going to just start
by asking you a question that I think
I've asked you innumerable times in the
book but it's one of those questions
that I've found Satguru has a new answer
for almost every time I ask him the
question so I'm going to start with that
which is really why why this book at
this point in time what for you was the
urgency of our the yogi at this
particular juncture and is it it seems I
think to many of us that Shiva has
become a figure of iconic an iconic
figure in many ways for this century he
seems to be a figure that resurfaces in
fiction on television in every possible
way in one way or the other why does he
seem to be in vogue.

> human race has come to a point in time

where human intellect is firing like
never before more people can think for
themselves today than ever before in the
history of humanity. For a long time if
there was a village or a town little one
pundit or a priest or a guru or a
scripture a book would think for you I
know I'm sorry many of you writers but
today for the first time a large part of
humanity has begun to think for itself
well we can debate whether they're
thinking right or not that's another
matter but they're beginning to think
for themselves once people begin to
think for themselves it's inevitable
questions will arise if questions arise
for a long time because of our elegance
to scriptures and concepts and dogmas we
had a very effective way of handling
questions that has killed a questioner
question did not die at least for that
generation it was handled till another
generation popped up and asked the same
question so for a long time we've been
handling questions like this just kill
the questioner and it seems to be gone
for some time those times are gone now
because there are too many questions
happening too many people asking
questions you have to kill half the
population if you want to kill the
question and if you kill half the
population the other half will ask
inevitably why so whatever dogmas
ideologies belief systems scriptural
adherence we have had if you really ask
three questions basic questions
above all all the three heavens will
fall apart there's not a small thing
Heaven's falling apart is not a small
thing isn't it
but heavens will fall apart I think I
should tell you what's in heaven
hello you would like to know what's in
heaven you want to know he wants to go
in Hindu heaven food is very good
you know the heaven there are these
white ground ladies floating around in
the clouds if you like that kind of
ambience you need to go there in another
heaven you will encounter virgin
problems but what is the qualification
for you to go to heaven well you have to
die first if you want to go to heaven
first thing is you must die isn't it
when you die fortunately we will either
bury your body or burn it or cut it into
pieces and throw it to the birds one of
these things we will do or in other
words if you have not done anything
eco-friendly in your life one thing you
will do for sure that is you put this
body back into the soil it's a very good
thing to do you should not go with it
okay so you left your body here if you
can settle down sir if you can make up
your mind hello which seat to sit in if
you can make up your mind please so you
went to heaven without your body now
what do you do with good food and
virgins you have no body how will you
eat the good food and what are you going
to do with the virgins you know in
heaven in Hindu heaven there are vessels
where it doesn't matter how many people
eat still there will be food
fool obviously when you don't have a
body
and in other place there are virgins and
virgins yes of course they will remain
virgins because no man went there with a
body so I'm saying if you ask three
questions all heavens will collapse 90%
of the scripture will collapse
so that time is coming soon
if you don't dare to still ask questions
your children for sure will ask
questions when they ask questions your
heavens that you've been promising for
ages will collapse and scriptures will
collapse already it's collapsing in a
big way in most people's minds heavens
have already collapsed that is why they
are on drink and drug because they know
there is no better place to go but if
you are dead sure that there is a better
place to go you must go today isn't it
hello if you are so sure that there is a
better place to go you must live today
so that time has come when empty
promises
weird explanations belief systems will
not work so time for Adi yogi has come
because a scientific approach to the
very basis of who we are the very nature
of our existence this is the feedback is
coming back two months can you take care
of this please somebody wherever is the
audio the very basis okay for you it's
good for you then I think it's only
these two things if you can control it a
bit
the very basis of your existence which
is unanswered it's very natural for
human intelligence to ask this question
what is the nature of my existence where
do I come from where do I go what is
this all about
ready-made answers you will go to heaven
you will go and sit in God's lap he's
not going to work for future generations
if you are so sure you have an
appointment with God I think you should
not postpone it so because human
intellect is firing like this at last
after thousands of years time for our do
ghee has come how do get belongs to the
future not to the past because you will
see he will live and dance in future
generations because it needed a certain
fertile intellect to be able to absorb
what he had to offer it took nearly
15,000 years but he is patient because
you have heard he either still
absolutely still timelessly still or
exuberantly dancing he still he dances
here and there but you will see he will
dance in a big way on this planet the
coming generations guru you speak of him
very often as a dimension that which is
not at the same time you speak of him as
the very first yogi who walked this
planet and in the book you speak of him
in a bewildering variety of ways you
speak of him as your 50% partner you
speak of him as your sidekick you speak
of him most recently in a poem called
profoundly alone you speak of him as the
companion who abandoned you
who is Adi yogi I'm trying to find some
dignity to myself instead of just saying
I'm a slave I'm trying to put it in many
words to make it dignified for myself so
as the name suggests the first yogi
let's understand this a yogi means not a
man yogi means Yoga means union yogi
means one who's found that union right
now as you sit here it is you versus the
universe in a way isn't it hello you may
not always be fighting but it is
actually you versus the rest of the
universe you versus the universe is a
hopeless fight a hopeless competition so
when one's intelligence grasps this that
you versus cosmos is a hopeless way to
exist you look for ways in which either
you can become the universe or uris
universe can become you when you manage
that we say you're a yogi so it is that
dimension which we are referring to as
the yogi now we're talking about the
first yogi maybe maybe I am saying maybe
there were Yogi's before him but they
never bothered to teach us so out of our
vengeance we don't give them the credit
he took the time to offer the entire
science and possibility to us so we
acknowledge him as a first yogi maybe
there were others we don't know but we
don't want to acknowledge those guys who
didn't bother about us we are
acknowledging him because he sat down
and thoughts
idiots who couldn't grasp a thing there
were wonderful men but more wonderful
you are more difficult it is to work
with you but he took the time and the
patience and the trouble to offer it to
us so we are acknowledging him as the
first yogi and when you say profoundly
alone and you speak of him as the
companion who abandoned you
if you we're not talking about
loneliness we're talking about being
alone I'm alone in this existence means
in some way the existence has become a
part of me
only I exist when only I exist obviously
I will be alone so but it's very
profound usually when people are alone
they become depressed they become lonely
they feel abandoned by the world or
people around them
it doesn't matter people feel alone even
if they lose their money if they lose
their phone they'll feel terribly alone
today
so we're not talking about that kind of
aloneness we are talking about aloneness
that's come out of Union so it's very
profoundly alone in the book you make a
distinction between spirituality and
mysticism we use the word mystic quite
liberally we introduced you as a mystic
but I think for many of us some of these
distinctions between the word mystic st.
sage these are blurred distinctions we
use them interchangeably what
you say is spirituality what is
mysticism how is the mystic particularly
in a conference devoted to mystical
literature who is a mystic one who is
not a mystic nothing special about a
mystic
very ordinary in fact we used to have a
brochure which we have removed now it
used to say ether yoga from ordinary to
extraordinary after two days of the
program somebody asked me
Sadhguru you said we will become very
special nothing happened and I said I
never said that
anything special will happen to you
because being specially the sickness in
my perception people wanting to be
special is the kind of sickness they'll
do the weirdest things possible to be
special then they said no no you said
extraordinary yes I said extraordinary
more ordinary than others you will
become everybody is trying to be special
you become just ordinary just life
nothing more and if you become simply
ordinary just as life is you didn't make
anything of yourself you just remained
as creator intended you to be simply
then people think you're a mystic that's
their problem that's their mistake
simply because you're able to see things
as they are and they are seeing things
which don't exist because they are
seeing everything through their
psychological drama of thought and
emotion you are seeing everything just
the way it is so suddenly they think you
domestic that's not my problem it's
their mistake say I told you you will
feel very lonely without your phone
if you what you think is a mystic
suppose I sit here with my eyes closed
and somebody walks into this Hall I can
tell you what sort of person has walked
into the Hall right now I'm sure you
would think that's very mystical
listening but what you don't understand
is your dog can do it your dog is
sitting under this chair somebody comes
at the door he knows who has come yes or
no so it's a bit doggy it's just that
you have made sure nothing comes between
you and your perception you have harmed
your faculties of perception in such a
way it's not interrupted by thought or
emotion or situations that are going
around you
drama is happening all the time but you
are untouched by the drama and both the
outside social drama and the
psychological drama you are untouched by
this you are able to perceive everything
just the way it is that means without
making mistakes you're perceiving
everything as it is so you become a
mistake
mysticism means it is just a longing to
know this is not something that happens
by intent it's a natural consequence of
human intelligence this evolution has
delivered us at a certain place where we
cannot be without knowing yes if there
is something that you do not know and
you realize you do not know the very
innate nature of your intelligence is
such it wants to know now when you want
to know if you do not have
neither the commitment nor the courage
to seek that which you do not know you
will believe something well all you're
looking for is an authority the
authority maybe a guru maybe a scripture
maybe a messiah
or maybe an unseen God somewhere in the
clouds but essentially you're looking
for an authority so that what you do not
know you can pretend that you know you
will arrive at it in so many different
ways this happened you know until you
choked
I eight-year-old boy in York City came
home from school in the afternoon he had
a very progressive mother obviously she
was single I said it's only a joke oh he
came home and asked his mother mama is
God a man or a woman she thought through
this all these gender politics that are
going on in the country just now in the
last election they tried to settle it
they didn't work after much thinking she
said both the boy went into profound
thought then he came back after some
time and asked mama is God black or
white she thought about all the racial
politics that are going on in the nation
in the previous election they tried to
handle it
didn't work after much thinking she said
both then the boy went into very deep
thought then he came back and asked mama
is God gay or straight
she thought about all the politics
involved with that aspect of life and
then she said both the boy jumped in joy
I got it I got it it's Michael Jackson I
don't know how you are at at yours it's
just that it has to be spoken usually
you know at least a dice two feet higher
than your chair or from a mount or from
the cloud always like this he's never
transmitted like this you see hello
always like this Cooper Cooper well
talking so much about oh poor Walla I
want to tell you in this cosmos you do
not know what is up and what is done are
you capable of knowing you're an around
planet and the damn thing is spinning
all the time
inevitably you're looking up in the
wrong direction aren't you hello what do
you think Australians are looking apart
so the moment you ask a few questions
all the fake authorities that you have
created in your life and try to sustain
yourself on seeking this is all your
tricks to see that your intelligence
doesn't bother you and freak the hell
out of you that you don't know the
fundamentals of life you know everything
you know everything you know where God
lives you know his name you know his
wife's name you know how many children
he has you know when his birthdays you
just know you even know what he likes
for dinner this incredible knowledge
about everything about the Creator we
must understand this is the only culture
on the planet which has been a land of
seekers the people that you worshiped
did not fall from the top they were
normal birth for their mothers one day
you're Rama you're Krishna you Shiva
everybody works its yog Rafi went
through all the trials and tribulations
that you go through
much more we bow down to them not
because they were gods we bow down to
them because of the freedom with which
they existed if you take one example
we'll take Rama because he still has
real-estate problems from then to now
then he was born as a prince went
through the finest education possible in
those days grew up into a very gentle
wonderful wise young man married a
beautiful princess but something went
wrong and he was banished to the jungles
well maybe in your Ramanand Sagar's
television serial you saw Rama Sita
doing romance but that's not how it is
I've lived in jungles for weeks on end
by myself after 3-4 weeks in the jungle
when I come back home you and my parents
wouldn't recognize me it would be like
that insect bites from head to toe most
of the ladies I'm telling you if we take
you to the jungle in two weeks time
nobody in the town will recognize you
you will become like that
so Sita is not a divorcee woman she's a
princess not not made for the jungle I'm
saying
obviously they were not sent out on a
safari into the punishment as if that
was not enough
I hear the Buddha sure people have been
navigating their way down to Sri Lanka
and going for a long time the maritime
history says so the Sri Lankan people
came and kidnapped Sita Rama is a king
he could have found some local solutions
for himself but he's not that kind he
loves his wife he follows and goes down
builds a Tamil army now after six
thousand years the American scientists
are telling us actually there is a
bridge and he fought a battle
killed many people many of his people
died burn down a beautiful city and
brings his wife back then little time
she's fully pregnant again something
goes wrong and he sends her to the
jungle once again if something truly
terrible has to happen to you in your
life knowingly or unknowingly you killed
your own children this is the worst
thing that can happen to you Rama almost
killed his own children because he did
not know when she went as a pregnant
woman to the jungle
no sonogram he did not know whether it
is girl or boy or girls or boys or what
the hell he fought with these boys
tried to kill them in every possible way
but fortunately he did not succeed and
in the end she dies in the jungle
without him ever seeing her you don't
call this a successful life do you
hello if anyone of these incidents
happen in your life most people would be
broken but the man did not become bitter
did not become angry did not become
hateful
he conducted his his duty of being a
king with that most balance to a point
when we are fighting for our freedom
when we want to talk about a nation
well-managed we say ROM Raj when his
entire personal life was a continuous
disastrous drama the man was not that he
did not have any pain not that he did
not go through what every human being
goes through her such situations but he
did not let those things affect anything
that he was doing this freedom we called
Jeevan Mukti it is for that freedom that
we bow down to him not because he was a
king not because he was a success
because in this culture the highest
value has always been Mukti or moksha
never God or heaven even when so called
the divine entities came we freaked them
with questions didn't we
nobody could give us a commandment so
the best thing about Adi Yogi's he never
attempted to give any kind of
commandment questions and questions and
questions from Marathi and the seven
sages endless number of questions every
question he did not answer in poetry I
am saying this because not just making
it beautiful making it very technical
scientific and logically correct
at the same time touching a dimension
which logic never can never touch
Hornung your logic in such a way that
your logic will not trap you to a
mundane way of living Horning your logic
in such a way that it becomes the
stairway to the magical dimension of
life you speak in the book Satguru about
ardha yogi as the one who is the very
source of yoga which is a science but
you also speak of him as the one who
offered another science the science of
Tantra and for various reasons I think
Tantra is a word that many of us have
perhaps our own set of have drawn our
own conclusions about it's a word that
many of us approach with some weariness
sometimes it's a word that is regarded
pejoratively we have reached a point
when we can talk of an international
yoga day but it seems unlikely that
we'll ever talk about an International
Tantra day
what is Thundra
see this kept some peppermint for you
not for me there must be some good
reason isn't it so today unfortunately
both yoga and Tantra that you're reading
about and you're hearing about generally
he's a rebound from the American Coast
so there is dog yoga there is aquatic
yoga this beer yoga there is gun yoga
okay people are doing yoga with guns
people are doing yoga with a full glass
of beer so both yoga and Tantra are
rebound from the American Coast once it
bounces off that coast
it changes complexion in a huge way the
word Tantra literally means a technique
or a technology I think even now in
Hindi would you say for technology no no
that is the English word mispronounced
done what do you say for whatever
okay this seemed to be multiple okay
in Sanskrit language I think because in
Kannada and Telugu these words are their
tantrika means technology but somewhere
tantric became a weird man the word
Tantra literally means technology or
technique there is no yoga without
Tantra but as I said because it comes
from the American coast we have begun to
understand Tantra as unriddle
promiscuity if we have to separate yoga
and Tantra which is not correct it is
like let me put it in modern terms there
is science and there is technology
science is just an exploration
technology is practical usage of a few
things that we have understood science
is a pure seeking which is a natural
quest within human intelligence
technology is of social consequence more
today in in the name India if you say
science people think it's only computer
science which is just technology even if
there is no computer still there is
science because technology brings
benefit people are more ordinary devoted
to technology than to science nobody
would fund science no funding for
science would happen if they did not
come up with some technology because
everybody who invests they want some
result how can we use it so when
governments invest or when universities
invest or when companies invest they are
not investing in science they are only
looking for technology newer ways of
exploiting the world so Yoga is
a dimension of that science where it's
completely internalized when something
is so totally absolutely internalized it
needs a certain capability if I ask you
right now many of you some of you will
be able to do this something very simple
that if you are speaking you also be
conscious about your breath and be
conscious about the various aspects of
your body and then speak you will see
the speech won't come out or you will
forget about the breath or you will
forget about the body something will
happen it needs a certain amount of
effort and sharpening of one's mental
faculties because today in modern terms
because of the nature of the education
the people are receiving their idea of
mind is just their thought process or
their intellect no mind has many other
dimensions because those aspects have
not been cultivated in most human beings
it looks like it's impossible to do
things - it's impossible to do two
different things at the same time people
are always asking me sir oh how is that
so many things you keep it going at the
same time well I have 12 to 14 tracks
running in my mind all the time and if I
initiate something and limit it it works
itself out every human being is capable
of this it is just that because of the
nature of Education that we are
receiving we are just focused on thought
process we think thought is the biggest
thing no no thought is only recycling of
the data that you already have that will
not lead you to any greater possibility
than just recycling and going into
permutations and combinations of what
you can do with the existing data but if
something new has to come there are
penetrating dimensions of your
intelligence which has to be employed so
yoga needs a surface
educated mind when I say yoga I'm
talking about the yoga not the American
Western form of yoga we're twisting and
turning and hanging upside down is
considered yoga if you want to do
classical yoga you need to develop a
sophisticated mind it needs a certain
amount of effort certain amount of
internalization so for those who are not
who have not worked upon themselves in
that sense for such people they brought
in other dimensions where they could use
their body and things around them where
the other substances are used to create
a similar effect in India you have this
Yogi's and ritualists these rituals are
all different aspects of Tantra
generally gone bad today but there is a
certain dimension to it this is for
people people who don't know anything
they also want to experience something
so you create a mass process where
everybody experiences something even
though they themselves don't have the
necessary sadhana or necessary
sophistication within themselves to make
it happen within themselves so you do an
outward thing so generally this is how
today today's classification this is not
appropriate in today's understanding
Yoga means internal Tantra means
external Yoga means you don't do
anything with anything or anybody just
with yourself Tantra means you do things
with people and stuff around you many
things are used tree soil water all
kinds of things are used Yoga means
totally internalized this is the modern
understanding not absolutely wrong but
not technically correct either because
Tantra means technology a certain
capability
science is not a capability it is just
annoying technology is a capability
without capability you cannot impart
anything you cannot spread anything you
cannot make it happen for anybody so in
every aspect of yoga there is a certain
amount of Tantra but as I said in
today's understanding we can divide it
this way if it is coming from within we
call this yoga if you are using external
substances then it is called Tantra does
Tantra take intimacy because in the book
another thing we discussed is are the
Yogi's mode of transmission through to
three sets of disciples for the sapta
rishis he imparts yoga and you say there
that he tells the sapta rishis the seven
sages there is an infinite distance
between you and enlightenment to Parvati
his beloved he imparts Tantra and he
says there is no distance between you
and enlightenment and to the ganas who
were his cronies he invites them to
drink and dance and he says there is no
enlightenment what does that mean
where there is intellect there is in
finite distance because intellect is
both a possibility and a trap it depends
how you use it
intellect does not function by itself it
needs data depending on what kind of
data you have and what kind of identity
you hold accordingly your intellect
functions you must see this as an
observer you must just watch two people
arguing vehemently with each other both
of them obviously believe they are being
very logical but you think the other
person is a fool but the other person
thinks you're a fool and it just goes on
endlessly and it can go on forever it's
gone on for thousands of years the same
things because intellect is a knife I'm
asking all of you would you like a sharp
intellect or a dull intellect you must
choose I'm going to bless you right now
sharp so it is a cutting instrument it's
like a knife knife is good if you want
to cut something open intellect helps
you to dissect things and know maybe
many of you who went to school and
college you dissected that frog or a
cockroach and you looked inside its
heart was still beating and you thought
you were learning something and the Frog
was looking at you get you idiot you
also have a heart beating inside of you
what are you looking at mine I don't
think you the Frog I enjoyed the
dissection hello no don't think the
heart was beating for you so
dissection is one way of knowing things
if I want to really know you shall I
dissect you hello if I dissect you I may
know something about your liver kidney
heart spleen but I will not know you
isn't it maybe by embracing you I will
know something more about you then
dissecting you isn't it
but intellect is a knife it can only
dissect whatever you put it to intellect
it will cut it open and look and analyze
and look at it the more intellectual you
become the more you cannot get along
with anybody just see unless they drink
with you or smoke with you or do
something with you you can't get along
with them because this is the nature of
the intellect now you want to stitch
something but only instrument you got is
your intellect so with a knife you
stitch you will leave everything in
tatters I had this experience you know
there was a time when I criss cross
India on my motorcycle I was riding
somewhere between I don't know whether I
was in Madhya Pradesh Uttar Pradesh
somewhere in the border area then I have
a little bit of trouble with my
motorcycle I have all the tools because
I don't trust any mechanic on the road
I'd fix it myself but I stopped and I
saw Mubarak mechanical works so I parked
and I told him this what I want and I
thought let him fix it I'll have my
breakfast all night I've been writing
then Mubarak mechanical works a very
enthusiastic enterprising young man then
he brings out his tools the only two
tools he has is chisel and hammer with
this he does everything but once he is
done with your machine that's the end of
it
after that nobody can work on it anymore
because none of the spanners or anything
will fit on it because you stop talk
talk everything you opens like this so
today unfortunately educated people have
become like this the only instrument
they have is a cutting instrument with
this they try to do everything and no
wonder people are becoming so grave
looking when I see people walking on the
street I'm just wondering are they
practicing their last pose no those of
you practicing I'm telling you it'll
come to you naturally you don't have to
practice when you're dead you get it
actually it comes free not with practice
this has happened to you simply because
you're applying a cutting instrument on
everything and life becomes slowly
painful not knowing why because you have
the only tool that you have is a knife
with that you try to handle everything
and everything hurts that's how it is
you know I had a terrible job but I
looked at you and then I saw you were
terrified so I live it I think we should
have it we prepare a young lady was
complaining her entire body's hurting
terribly she went to the doctor so
doctor said where does it hurt
anywhere I touch doctor ah then the
doctor looked at her and said ok you
come here and he took a splice and put a
splice on her finger
and then he said now you touch oh it's
cured it's cured it's cured everything
ok
the problem was the finger was fractured
so if you approach it with your
intellect there's an infinite distance
because you're cutting it into pieces
and making it more and more complex
endlessly it goes on so he said that to
the seven sages because they're men and
they're highly intellectual so when he
spoke to his wife she got inspired by
looking at the seven men they asking
fantastic questions and he's talking and
he's not talking to her issues so she
also want to be spoken like that so I
the yogi said come sit here good no
that's not what I want I want to know
like them I said it's okay come and sit
here see things as a usual trick man
wants him once around the lab says
that's not it come and sit here with
great hesitation and pride and she comes
and sits there then he slowly draws her
in and makes her a part of himself one
part of him becomes a woman and she
knows through that so he says there is
no distance it's right here because it's
not true intellect and looking at this
that these two became one and those guys
are getting enlightened the ganas who
are just an extension of his energy they
said we want enlightenment too we also
want to know
they said you idiots just sit with me
there's nothing to be done there's no
enlightenment you are just an extension
of me these are called Chavannes today
you know we have southern ecology one
has c1 Kassadin is going on in the
center in the Yoga Center right now you
just become an extension of this energy
there is nothing to do there's no
enlightenment there's no nonsense only
those say you have to turn on the light
only if it's dark isn't it if you are
sitting in the sunlight why do you turn
on the light what does it mean it
doesn't mean anything
he said you're one with me what the hell
are you talking about Enlai
I mean there's no such thing so if you
work through your intellect there's an
infinite distance if you work through
your emotion it's very close if you work
with your energy there's no such thing
it's all the same thing
Satguru also talks in the book of Mount
Kailash and he speaks of it as the
greatest mystical archive on the planet
and there's a point in the in the in the
course of our conversation when I asked
him what does it feel like to actually
be in the presence of Kailash and I
remember you said sir guru you said when
I seek eyelash I go blind and I wasn't
quite sure what you meant but I think
that sense of curiosity remains what
does it really mean for a mystic to
encounter this prodigious archive is it
the way some of us might feel when we
encounter I think the library library
what does it feel like to encounter a
library a mystical library what does it
mean Sun has not set yet it's at 4:30
okay not set yet if you go out and look
at the Sun do you see things better or
go blind when something is of
overwhelming presence you kind of go
blind but in a very beautifully go blank
go blind means everything that you were
saying till now is gone and you start
seeing something else altogether which
you never imagined possible
so collage
I'm not a pilgrim type I never went on
pilgrimages nor do I visit temples or
sacred spaces it if I close my eyes I'm
taken care of so I don't do those things
everybody was talking Kyle asked and I
said okay let's go and see what the hell
anyway I'm traveling around the world
what's wrong going to Kailash so I
thought one trip we will make one trip
and one trip and one trip I have made 13
trips in the last 13 years I am again
going in 2018 because it's kind of
mind-boggling me quite a bit
it is
it's all whelming presence is something
that you cannot miss but if you stay
there for 100 years you may still not
know it in its entirety because it's too
phenomenally huge to to be grasped to be
understood are they coming to take me
I'm just nasty it's okay like that so
it's a phenomena beyond any kind of
understanding that one can have it can
unveil itself forever and still still
everything is fresh and new even if you
have no such faculty to perceive nobody
can miss the immensity of the presence
it's just overwhelming presence well the
Chinese have main highways and all kinds
of accommodations coming up so people I
fear that people will start going there
like tourists take of course they'll
take a selfie with Kailash and come back
that'll be the tragedy that you go there
and you don't experience anything and
come back that day is not too far away
but it's been so immense that 13 years
on
I've been going every year and apart
from the natural beauty it's incredible
beauty naturally it is
it is not a cup that you can ever fully
drink one sip blows you away by the time
you take the next digesters and take the
next step it is too long before we throw
this open Satguru to the audience I just
want to ask you to share if you'd like I
would love it if you did in the book you
talk about a particular anecdote in my
soul you talk about the very word the
syllable shape and the sound shape for
Shiva you talk about the significance of
that sound the way you're saying it the
young people understand it differently
that's precisely what the anecdote is
about so I wonder if you could say
something about sound sound you talk
about nada Yoga to some degree mantra as
well what is the significance of this
particular syllable for you
what is the significance
say I'm not the mantra kind for me and I
just sit still and that's about it it's
like people appreciate if you paint this
canvas people will appreciate the
painting and the many colors upon it but
very few people grasp the nature of the
canvas so Shiva means that which is not
which is the canvas of the existence not
the painting it is a empty space which
is what is holding this creation in
place but creation doesn't even amount
to one percent of the cosmic space that
is there even within an atom over 95% is
just empty so it is with the larger
creation probably the proportion is same
nobody's here to prove it but probably
the proportion in the atom and the
proportion in the cosmos of emptiness
and substance is about the same so the
word Shiva means just that that which is
not you're talking about this you know
this was many years ago a guest came
from Australia and I'm driving this
person around on a motorcycle
of course I write in a certain way I
don't know how to ride at half throttle
I always drive at full moon both my life
and my motorcycle and whatever else I
drive so if I ride fast in my years I
hear
that's okay then if I break if they
see something beautiful they don't
like something the food is good
it's too hard then I think
what's happening
this person constipated or something I
thought is over in the morning
whole day you're saying maybe
you're trying to invoke yourself then I
look at this person they're getting
agitated and they say kind of
settle down if something is working for
somebody I don't intend to disturb it if
is working for them what's my
problem
there's an entire science as to the
structure the geometrical structure of
the sound Shiva when I say geometrical
structure and he came and sat down on
this chair I said this is made for
cripples because this is for people who
can fold the legs who can't sit down
properly they're not made for crippled
people why I'm saying this is in many
ways you're crippled your perception and
your faculties simply because of the way
you sit the way you said the way you
breathe because physical existence how
efficiently it functions is just a
question of perfection of geometry
geometrically how perfect something is
that is how efficiently it will work if
you take a machine let's say you take
the engine of your car
how geometrically well aligned it is
that is how smooth and friction-free it
functions little disalignment in its
geometry lot of friction lot of friction
means inefficient function life span is
less above all it will not live to its
optimal capability so to be able to sit
properly is important that you have the
right kind of geometry so that
perception happens unhindered in a way
whether you say yoga or tantra it's all
about geometry you have seen people are
drawing on the you know geometric
patterns and the floor and everywhere
geometry geometry because existence is
geometry physical existence is entirely
geometric only what is geometrically
perfect sustains itself what is not
geometrically perfect will fall apart
the very solar system that we are living
in right now the planet Earth is going
around the Sun not because there is a
cable attached and it's swinging just
geometrical perfection if it loses its
pathway even a little bit that's the end
of it it will go away I want you to
understand what I'm saying it's spinning
and rotating with some geometrical
perfection even a mild deflection from
its path it's finished so if you want to
function at your best you need to be in
a geometrically a sustainable geometry
only then all your faculties will
function at its best if you sit like
this the only thing that will function
is your thought and emotion nothing else
will function that different dimensions
the immensity of being human will not
function this is why how to sit we spend
years to teach people how to sit
just sitting just how to sit so when you
are to the word Shiva the geometric
patterns that come out of that sound are
such it represents the emptiness it
represents that nothingness which if you
develop a mathematic for it it would
represent the empty space that is what
the sound is
so we arrived it with the enormous
perception with profound perception and
a very deep understanding of the science
somehow these people in the West
accidentally stumbled on this
business sitting standing there
I see it's working at least
half the science they got somehow I said
Shiva they said it's working so I
said okay let them say it was at least
half way there coming only wow we have
to add some time later we'll do that now
the devotees will get very angry are you
trying to say and Shiva are same no
no they cannot be same but in your mind
if Shiva is only you you react in such
ways because it is just something that
you believe if it was reality for you
what I am speaking of as a limitless
emptiness which is what the sound Shiva
represents if that was an experience
already
you don't care if somebody said and
she were together but you just believe
Shiva is my god now you feel insulted
because you feel insulted you react but
I will let me ask you a simple question
in your mind I don't know how you store
the different words but in case you're
storing it alphabetically xi1 xi2
definitely next to each other isn't it
are you capable of storing Shiva on top
of your mind and at the bottom
hello
I'm asking you
so this is why when we look at the yogi
or the man Shiva we make him so complex
everything he's the filthiest man that
you can think of he's the most beautiful
man that you can think of he is a
profound yogi absolutely still at the
same time he is a violent densha like
this every contradiction because to give
you an impression nothing is excluded
everything is a part of him everything
is a part of him and if you accept this
one man you will not have any trouble
with anybody who is sitting next to you
right now including yourself I think
this is the point at which we'd like to
pause and invite some of you to join
this discussion if there are questions
we have about 10 minutes for them 10 to
microphone to him please
Austin's but now if audio you arrived
here and give you a chance to ask him a
question what question you are going to
ask him what makes you think he is not
arrived please transfer the microphone
quickly yeah I would like to ask
something
Shiva is very limited and confide word
if you'll use be they evolve EB is more
applicable for the Ender system the
human species as a whole I believe can
you just explain le elaborate about my
perception I didn't get that we the B
being should be instead of using Shiva
being me should be more apt and
elaborate for the human species as a
whole I believe are you agree with the
word be evolving being we IND
capitulated I use being should we use
you later
para namitha you will be me instead of
Shiva is confined to be a region
regional aspiration or something like
that if you la put applicable the B is
for the wider application for the human
species as a whole I believe can you
just use some insights on this so you're
essentially saying we should stick to
English language which we are doing
right now when we say Shiva we are not
talking about some fanciful man floating
somewhere we're talking about a
limitless dimension we are not just
talking about the meaning of the word
the word has no meaning we are talking
about the structure and the geometry of
the sound you must understand this
meaning exists only in human mind
nowhere else there is any meaning in
this existence is there hello what is
the meaning of the sunrise what is the
meaning of the sunset what is the
meaning of the flowers blossoming what
is the meaning of the sky what is the
meaning of the earth there is no meaning
to anything
meaning exists only in human mind so in
yoga we don't give any importance to
whatever nonsensical meanings you
arrived at because it has no existence
of significance it has only
psychological significance but sound is
of existence of significance so we are
looking at the sound Shiva as a sound
not for the meaning you can make up any
meaning somebody thinks if I was a yogi
somebody thinks he's a bola Baba
somebody thinks he is something else
they can think whatever they want that
is the meanings that they attach but the
sound Shiva geometrically signifies
sound has geometry geometrically
signifies a limitless space that is what
we are looking at because it is
intrinsic for a human being to seek
freedom doesn't matter where you are you
want to be something more why if that
something more happens you want to be
something more essentially you're trying
to expand your horizons or if you look
at this carefully you will see there is
something within you which does not like
boundaries you want to be boundless so
Shiva represents that boundlessness
pronounces Guruji I want to ask you one
question only how to find my spiritual
guru why should I tell you you are the
only person can answer dear then I think
you answered your question
if you can wait for the microphone take
the mic good evening Sadhguru G what
according to you is the greatest lesson
that you have learnt till today from
your life I don't learn anything else
really I'm quite incorrigible I don't
learn anything
I see everything just the way it is I
don't learn anything because learning
means making some conclusions and
keeping it in your goodie bag to use it
somewhere else
no I don't want to use anything because
I have my faculties on if tomorrow's
situation or the next moment situation
is different from everything that ever
happened I will still be at home with it
because I don't go with my learnings I
am NOT learned anything from this life
I'm just living this life absolutely
fully knowing fully well next moment can
be entirely different from anything
that's happened till now if you if you
have goodie bag full of learnings
suppose tomorrow's situation is very
different from yesterday what are you
going to do with the stupid goodie bag
so don't carry the past with you I know
everybody is telling you you must learn
all the time learn all the time well if
you are learning engineering of
mathematics or science please learn but
life you just have to live you don't
have to learn and anyway let me tell you
this whether you learned or you did not
learn anyway in the end you shall pass
please take the microphone
wherever Namaskar Sadhguru my question
is that if if you can if knowing the
ultimate is our the topmost thing which
we can do okay and for that if you guy
is the only way and for yoga if my
clarity of mind or my longing to that is
the thing which which can makes the
thing works and for me everything is
going like in a circle means I don't
know you don't have to worry even the
planet is doing the same thing means
where to start and how to start and
means if there is no longing then there
is no yoga if there is no clarity there
is no longing and
and everything is any confusion no no
you're just making equations which
cannot be equated if I hang you upside
down from the ceiling would you want to
come out of it after some time hello yes
just today's wheat off your phone next
go sit on the beach don't look here and
there low don't look at the local girls
or maybe on the beach just simply sit
there and after some time initially you
will enjoy the scenery after sometimes
life will bother you simply nothing need
to have simply bother you allow it to
bother you sufficiently it'll bother you
and freak you to such a place most
people are busy texting not because they
have something to say just to dodge the
bothering they're bothering somebody
else if you simply sit there you will
see you're actually hanging upside down
in this universe without knowing a damn
thing when it bothers you enough you
naturally become a seeker you want to
know when you want to know please come
and
please you must take the microphone
whoever good evening Sadhguru gee yeah
microphone microphone yes
good evening security I have a question
person has manifold interests in his
life now if one person tries to perceive
one interest and the other interest they
reach that person from pursuing that
interest so how to balancing how to do a
balance or strike a balance between
pursuing manifold interests you sit in
one place and don't do the both then you
will be in balance what is this is it
true that right now that you're sitting
here for whatever reason you can't be in
a cinema theater right now or can you be
you you've been watching something on
the phone now so you're listening to me
so you can't be in the cinema theater if
you're in the cinema theater you can't
be on the beach if you're on the beach
you can't be somewhere else this is not
just for you this is for everybody isn't
it hello but if you pursue any one thing
with absoluteness everything else is
included in that one thing you don't
have to do many things if you do one
thing absolutely you will see it
contains the whole life in it tell me
one thing which is exclusive of the
other if you become absolutely involved
with something you will see it includes
everything just about anything this is
what mysticism means Kabir is a we were
just weaving cloth he realizes things
somebody just sweeping the floor realize
things because absolute involvement is
what is missing right now now you're
already thinking if I do this if I go
west I can't go east if I go east I
can't go west so what will you do you
will not go anywhere sit here and think
about this and that endlessly that is
just psychological drama nothing happens
so whatever it's not about what you do
whatever nonsense you do if you do it
with absolute involvement that becomes
an all inclusive tremendous divine
possibility Namaskar Sadhguru okay yes
you can speak please can meditation and
Yogi's and evolved people like you help
mentally challenged people I mean people
who have certain mental illnesses you
having known yoga and meditation
apart from the medical science that if
you just stick to the question yeah
apart from the medical science can can
meditation and yoga be an alternative or
an additive complementary form of help
for such people when we talk about
somebody being mentally challenged on a
lighter vein everybody is mentally
challenged in some way no no please
please please but when somebody has a
situation which is gone beyond a certain
point where it's become painful both for
them and everybody around them that is
when we label it as mentally challenged
you are mentally challenged but you're
okay you're managing yourself then we
say you're normal but you're challenged
to such a place where it's become
painful both for you and for people
around you now this is not something
that we can do
standard prescription right here because
as every human being who is here nobody
is mentally same or physically same it's
a unique body and a unique mind so there
is no one common prescription for all
these problems that human beings may
face somebody may be so by birth
somebody may be so because of genetic
reason somebody may be so because of
situational pressures we don't know how
they've gotten into that place so saying
something general and saying okay this
is the solution it's going to be
responsible but if it is because of
situations that people have become
mentally disturbed or broken definitely
with yoga and meditation we can fix it
but if it is because of pathological
reasons then medication may be must
because your chemistry may be so
volatile that it can't be just fixed
like that but once people go on direct
required medicine then working with them
if they are willing we have helped
thousands of people like this some have
completely come off medication and
become normal
some are moved to from severe medication
to more milder doses of medication and
managing themselves there is no one
magic wand for this it all depends on
variety of factors I don't think anybody
has figured all the factors many times
we hit that lucky spot when for somebody
miraculously it works but another person
just doesn't respond this is my
experience I have seen hundreds of
people coming out of such situations
miraculously by doing simple processes
at the same time some simple problem
somebody has do what you want they will
not come out of it there are various
factors involved
this but if somebody is already on
medication it is good to try to balance
the system with the right kind of
practices it will definitely assist one
thing I can tell you definitely very
easily with little bit of work 25 to 50
percent of the medication can be brought
down which itself is a great help for
that person that much can be done but we
need special circumstances to handle
such people we can't handle them among
common people it may be too much
pressure for the ordinary people and for
them to be in those situations that is
the challenge can we create that ideal
situation needed for that particular
person that itself is a very big
challenge which most of the time we are
not able to create so if there is such a
situation it's best that complete detail
of what is the situation is written down
accordingly we can take a judgement
whether it is possible to help them or
not good way to ask this sure to come on
stage because there may be one or two
questions from the media that she'll
facilitate not more than 10 minutes all
right well we quickly just take a couple
of questions from the media there's any
from the media there are any questions
sir because we have a time constraint
here yes sir
okay please speak it's alright hello
your honor what is the difference
between Brahmin and Assam ah forget this
param Brahma and Paramatma but what is
the difference between Brahmin and
asthma number one question and the
number two question is so one question
so there's so many waiting we will have
to take one question from a chihuahua
I'm not given to comment on any
individual so let's leave the second
question Atma is a of life Brahman is
the bee of life I'm not trying to
belittle the question I want you to I
want you to understand in the name of
spirituality what has happened to most
people is they have just enhanced their
vocabulary this is a consequence of
living in a culture where there used to
be thousands of enlightened beings in
every generation at one time because of
that all these words became common
conversation in the society but since
then that has receded the significance
of those words are gone but the words
are still floating around in the society
and in the languages that we use let us
go with this you exist you exist that's
a reality you don't know whether Atman
exists or not you as a person exist you
as a life exist you don't know whether
Brahman exists or not but you know there
is a larger creation you just a small
happening in this creation now the
longing of the human being is because
our intelligence has come to a certain
place if you ever like any other
creature stomachful we would be settled
now that we become
human stomach empty only one problem
stomach full 100 problems not only of
life here we even want to know
Brahman but do not enhance you
vocabulary because the enhancement of
vocabulary will keep you in deception
for a lifetime don't use those big words
you are there so much is there you don't
know the nature of this so there is no
way to know the nature of that and the
reality is this right now you don't even
know if there is a world there you don't
even know if there is a universe
you only know it the way it happens
within you isn't it right now you think
you're seeing me but the fact of the
matter is this light is falling upon me
reflecting going through your lenses
inverted image in the retina everything
is happening within you that's how you
know so you only know what's happening
within you today technologies have come
where you're projecting something on the
screen like this they can project it
into your retina okay multiple
projectors which will project it into
your retina and it's real real if you
you know kids are wearing glasses and
going through the Samsung phone if you
have you put it on its full 3d
experience it's more real than the real
so what you know as reality is just the
way it's projected in your mental scape
so let us just focus on this one thing
that we know because we can only work
with what is on our hands we cannot work
with what's on our minds we can only
work with what's in our hands what's in
our hands is a life there is a life here
to know the nature of this life because
it is the way this life is experiencing
we are knowing everything so what is the
nature of this life if you know you
actually know the entire universe by
inference
because you know the way this experience
is being created so just you is enough
don't create another guy called Earthman
because once you create Atman then you
will create ego then you will create
another thing another thing if there is
more than one person in your body right
now this means you're either
schizophrenic or possessed but I am NOT
a psychiatrist nor I'm an exorcist so -
you just have to be satisfied with that
one and so thank you so much alright do
we we take one last question from the
media if there's a question from the
media one last question
yes yes if you're from the media raise
your hands and we can take one last
question all right none from from from
the media are you from the media sir
from which which organisation are you
from
connect me all right we'll just take one
question so you can have the mic sir yes
sir do you have any plan to spread your
these religious things your foundation
works
in addition that's that's typically a
journalist question so anyway I don't
have any intention of spreading my own
religion to anybody
I think I am in odisha right now you're
the media if you think it's valuable you
must predict