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BILL: A hot new autobiography by Jerry Hall, ex-wife of Rolling Stones' Mick Jagger, says weekend escapes!
the rock star’s first addiction was to gambling. His love of poker was so intense that he GO NOW!
lost the family home.
WHY ST ARS FAIL REHAB
DR. DAVE: Bill, that’s news to me. Mostly what I ever heard about him was his relentless
pursuit of women. Money can't buy sobriety

BILL: According to Hall's book,"My Life In Pictures", Jagger’s gambling led to a suicide These celebs have waged public
attempt, but he "succeeded only in breaking almost every bone in his body and losing a battles against addiction. Here's
kidney. That left Mama with five children to raise, no home and a husband destined to why the odds are stacked
spend a long time in hospital." against them.

DR. DAVE: That's when she says he tried to substitute an addiction to sex for drugs and
the card table? EDIT ORS' PICKS
BILL: The Jaggers split in 1990 after model Luciana Giminez announced that she was Hamster? Gerbil? No, it's
pregnant with Mick's baby. You know, Dave, something in me understands what Jagger Snooki inside that ball!
was trying to do. When I got out of rehab, I substituted chocolate for gin, gaining 50
Reality TV 'star' practices for
pounds before I let myself realize what was happening.
tonight's ball drop (love the
plastic cup, Snooks!)
DR. DAVE: But when you did, you cut out the chocolate and lost the 50 pounds right back.
You may've been self-indulgent. You were not addicted.
Happy Stinkin' New Y ear:
BILL: Can you become addicted to something positive, like playing chess, maybe No trash pickup til Monday
volunteering for the Red Cross or even going to the gym?
Garbage removal, street
DR. DAVE: An eminent psychologist, William Glasser, did some very good research on sweeping still days away, says
exactly that – on what addict's seek in their drug of choice. NYC sanitation boss.

BILL: And found ways of getting there that were "positive" and not self-destructive? Russell Brand likely in t he
doghouse for t weeting
DR. DAVE: That’s the name of Glasser’s 1976 book—Positive Addiction. One blogger THIS pic
captured Glasser's theme very well: when you reach the PA state, your mind drifts,
wandering effortlessly from random thought to observation to idea. This "free spinning" The funnyman posted this photo
state is creative and relaxed, unforced, and difficult to intentionally maintain. of wife Katy Perry with no make-
up on and quickly deleted it.
BILL: In my day, I did a lot of "free spinning" in the White Horse bar and the San Remo
too. I ended up drinking my way into two hospitals in ten days. Hard for me to see any of What is she 'do-ing?!
that as a Positive Addiction. Kardashian sports braids
Reality TV starlet is
DR. DAVE: The two PA processes that Glasser found are now embedded in popular photographed wearing tight
health culture. The first is running, and surely everyone knows by now that a runner’s cornrows. VOTE: Hot or not?
high is caused by the flood of endorphins into the brain.

BILL: Does Glaser’s second PA path require hours of exercise as well? The most notorious
Twitt er moment s of 2010
DR. DAVE: That brings us to what was once thought to be merely the frou-frou of Demi Moore tweeting of pics
Maharishi Yogi and the antic remnants of the Berkeley flower children. herself in a bikini was a
milestone in stupidity.
BILL: You’re speaking of the art of Meditation found in Yoga, Tai Chi and Transcendental
Meditation, right? I seem to remember that the Scripps cardiac, cancer and pulmonary
physicians were starting to use those ideas as part of their post-operative recovery Mom, daughter accused of
programs. molesting same teen boy
for 3 y ears
DR. DAVE: Meditation (more commonly called "Mindfulness" in the medical world), is Police say the pair did it without
indeed a Positive Addiction. knowing about each other’s
relationship with him.
BILL: A proven medical practice, and actually prescribed by doctors and surgeons who
probably never sat in a Lotus position chanting “Ommmm” in their life?

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DR. DAVE: In La Jolla, Ca., right down the street from the Scripps, is what is often seen
as the national center for Mindfulness.

BILL: The one led by Depak Chopra?

DR.DAVE: Exactly right, Bill. In fact, anyone reading us right now can click [here ] for
Depak's four-minute introduction to Mindfulness.

BILL: Which leads back to Mick Jagger and his many addictions, as chronicled by Jerry
Hall. Certainly our readers must wonder, as they see 67 year-old Mick prancing across
the stage on his world tour, how he ever got through the gambling, women, and sexual
addiction that Hall's picture of his life conjures up.

DR. DAVE: Not when you learn that his search for personal recovery led him to be one of
the most ardent practitioners of Transcendental Meditation. Someone Depak, the
Maharishi and others point to as leading a Mindfulness life.

BILL: So it is medically true-- addiction can be positive?

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3:18:32 PM Oh yes indeed such a thing! How bout reading? ALWAYS telling the IN MEMORIAM - Remembering
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10:01:23 PM Bill, Dave - are you guys brain-damaged? It was Jerry Hall's father, not Elmo... what a year!
Sep 20, 2010 **** Jagger, who had a gambling problem and attempted suicide.
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8:35:30 AM So then I guess AA is just a switched addication then? Sure seems addicted to love?
Sep 22, 2010 that way, the AA junkie gets all twitchy if they miss a meeting. Some Addictions & Answers: Narcotics Anonymous
have to start the day with a meeting, just to function. took my daughter away
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11:31:20 PM AA is not an addiction. It's a journey towards a better life. Some Most Read Most Discussed Most Emailed
Sep 22, 2010 people start their days with a meeting because it helps with Serenity
and restraint of pen and tongue. The meeting can make the day's 1. How does Helena Bonham Carter cope with a
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people can get "squirrely" without a meeting. They can get squirrely in rows
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meeting helps keep the "not feeling right" emotions in check. The
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1:46:10 AM Sure you can trade one addiction for another. For exanple, you can
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11:33:12 AM Oh sure, AA can be an addiction. I recall going to an AA meeting early

Sep 24, 2010 on in my sobriety where a woman with 17 years or so shared about
how she had gone to a meeting a few days earlier during a terrible
snowstorm. She was actually proud to describe how she had dug her
car out of several feet of snow because she HAD to make the
meeting: even after all those years of abstinence, she NEEDED a
daily meeting. She couldn't go one night without an AA meeting, even
if it meant risking her safety to get there. She held herself up as an
example--as did other longtimers at the meeting--of a truly dedicated
AA member, but it was obvious to me that she was addicted to AA,
jonesing for a meeting the same way she'd once craved alcohol. It
was a pitiful sight, and over the many years I went to AA I saw many
examples of this sick behavior, of people who had literally substituted
AA for alcohol, who put AA ahead of everything else in life or who had
no lives at all outside AA. Is this behavior he

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