MisterEason 4/5/11 8:22 PM Top-Down Reform vs Classroom Autonomy: http://t.

co/rvzxoDi #edchat #sschat zgporter 4/5/11 8:23 PM Hoping the interview went well and looking forward to a phone call instead of a form letter. #edchat #HSEnglish krisferg22 4/5/11 8:23 PM RT @jleung10: Just saw this on a student's profile: "H.O.M.E.W.O.R.K. = Half Of My Energy Wasted On Random Crap" Hmm. #edchat LYRichardson 4/5/11 8:24 PM @AJBianco @MarjieKnudsen Is the teacher bully proof? Is the school bullet and bully proof. There's the rub. #edchat BillEduTheater 4/5/11 8:24 PM Check these kids out. Help support them. Spread the word. http://bit.ly/dZsyUB #edchat, #education, #creativity, #robotics, #edreform zgporter 4/5/11 8:24 PM RT @mikevigilant: OMG... RT @jleung10: Just saw this on a student's profile: "H.O.M.E.W.O.R.K. = Half Of My Energy Wasted On Random Crap" Hmm. #edchat echos23 4/5/11 8:24 PM RT @jleung10: Just saw this on a student's profile: "H.O.M.E.W.O.R.K. = Half Of My Energy Wasted On Random Crap" Hmm. #edchat teacherjake 4/5/11 8:25 PM RT @twilhelmus: #edchat Talking with pre-service teachers about the future classroom. What will it look like? Please share your ideas. teacherdebra 4/5/11 8:25 PM 7. We need to work 2ward the idea of transparency; 8. ask, Are your Ss cre8ing real products for a real audience? #edchat #elemchat twilhelmus 4/5/11 8:25 PM #edchat Talking with pre-service teachers about the future classroom. What will it look like? Please share your ideas. teach1tech 4/5/11 8:25 PM http://bit.ly/gt26b4 The Google Blooms Taxonomy Nice way to lay it out for everyone! #edtech #edchat teacherdebra 4/5/11 8:26 PM Lastly, Ss should show/tell us what they know rather than just be tested on what they know. #edchat gret 4/5/11 8:26 PM Sharing is contagious! by @L_Hilt http://me.lt/207c4 #edchat #cpchat Mrs_P_teaches 4/5/11 8:27 PM RT @Nunavut_Teacher: you need to talk to colleagues and admin about change. #edchat

Marlise6 4/5/11 8:27 PM RT @mbteach: Did u enjoy #edchat? Looking 4 other discussions on Twitter? Check out this awesome resource http://bit.ly/7w7P59 #newellfonda gret 4/5/11 8:27 PM http://me.lt/6N4Ue #edchat Please read: Seth Godin by @joe_bower

Mrs_P_teaches 4/5/11 8:28 PM RT @Matt_Gomez: I feel SM can help engage parents in school & gain the support of the change we want. That support is crucial #edchat LYRichardson 4/5/11 8:28 PM .@twilhelmus Classroom reflects the interior thought process of the teacher; factory model-static, compliant, global, interactive #edchat PreKPages 4/5/11 8:28 PM RT @LAMHRainbow: 3rd grade math scares me. http://t.co/3UOVKc0 #kinderchat #edchat #elemchat #ntchat #preschool #classroom #ece davidwees 4/5/11 8:28 PM Asked to find recommendations for a tablet laptop. Any suggestions? Budget: $1700. #edtech #edchat GaryM 4/5/11 8:29 PM Role of Science Learning Outside of School Grows http://t.co/iE3xL3H via @educationweek or even taking a walk. #scichat #edchat gmbondi 4/5/11 8:29 PM VSB - WOW! Without a doubt, best Gr. 5 Blog I've seen within District 39 (Vancouver): http://bit.ly/egUNUp #edchat #cpchat #bced #elemchat markbethune 4/5/11 8:29 PM @davidwees not for 1700. Best one in my opinion is Fujitsu lifebook but will run you closer to 2Gs #edtech #edchat Akee123 4/5/11 8:29 PM The lack of exemplar schedules for elementary schools is because no one can agree on priorities #edchat GWoodJCG 4/5/11 8:29 PM We need to develop students who are open to searching for answers #edchat #nospoonfeeding AJBianco 4/5/11 8:30 PM @GWoodJCG I find that so much is given to them already, they feel that the teacher should do the same! We need to break the habit #edchat Shaybert 4/5/11 8:30 PM Yes! RT @thenerdyteacher: #edchat The goal is to give the power to the passionate and let them be force behind the change.

coasterkaren 4/5/11 8:30 PM RT @thenerdyteacher: Without resistance, the stone would never become smooth. #change #edchat #fixed username date time status

davidwees 5/31/11 12:00 PM Every teacher's college should include some preparation for educational technology. #edchat rliberni 5/31/11 12:00 PM RT @USCTeacher: Great topic: What additions/changes can college make to better prep teacher candidates? Excited to hear what everyone has to say! #edchat bnleez 5/31/11 12:00 PM RT @ShellTerrell: For the next hour my tweets dedicated to #edchat plz join us! Your moderators are @cybraryman1 @rliberni & me in case you need any help! USCTeacher 5/31/11 12:00 PM Great topic: What additions/changes can college make to better prep teacher candidates? Excited to hear what everyone has to say! #edchat ShellTerrell 5/31/11 12:00 PM RT @cybraryman1: #edchat Topic: What additions or changes can college make to better prepare teacher candidates? cybraryman1 5/31/11 12:00 PM #edchat Topic: What additions or changes can college make to better prepare teacher candidates? ISD20 5/31/11 12:00 PM #elearnchat guest David Kelly aka @lnddave recapping #ASTD2011 Today @ 10am PT www.justin.tv/relatecorp #lrnchat #astd #edchat #elearning dancallahan 5/31/11 12:00 PM RT @nesticos: Fantastic #edcampphilly reflection by @lectograph "Sure, you get a cool t-shirt" http://t.co/mRmykZt Can edcamp model work 4 clssrm? #edchat delta_dc 5/31/11 12:00 PM RT @TheEdBoard: Edboard.com is currently seeking guest bloggers, please DM for details, student teachers welcome! PLS RT #EdChat #Education ShellTerrell 5/31/11 12:00 PM RT @cybraryman1: Welcome and thanks for joining us. Please remember to use the hashtag #edchat for each tweet. #edchat juandoming 5/31/11 12:00 PM Un encuentro, una solucin: Recursos para la formacin http://t.co/1s35jyc #web20 #socialmedia #educacin #web20 #edtech #edchat #eltchat

cybraryman1 5/31/11 12:00 PM Welcome and thanks for joining us. Please remember to use the hashtag #edchat for each tweet. #edchat rliberni 5/31/11 12:00 PM Here at last thinking it's Monday (we had a public holiday yesterday :-D #edchat rliberni 5/31/11 12:01 PM topics in their preparation! I think include many of our #edchat

davidwees 5/31/11 12:01 PM Philosophy of education, "why do we do this?" should be in every teacher's college. #edchat patysavage 5/31/11 12:01 PM RT @EDUTOPIA: New! Encouraging Your Students to Engage in Deeper Thinking http://bit.ly/kQTEiJ #edchat #k12 #ntchat cybraryman1 5/31/11 12:01 PM @davidwees I agree and feel they are not doing enough in terms of ed tech #edchat juandoming 5/31/11 12:01 PM How not to lead a #collaborative teamwork http://bit.ly/h3EIyH #elearning #socialmedia #edtech #edchat #education #odite #puntogov #web20 SadlierSchool 5/31/11 12:01 PM Use Joliprint to convert online articles into a printer-friendly format! http://bit.ly/g7DOpN #edchat #edtech mbfxc 5/31/11 12:01 PM RT @TheEdBoard: Edboard.com is currently seeking guest bloggers, please DM for details, student teachers welcome! PLS RT #EdChat #Education ShellTerrell 5/31/11 12:01 PM RT @davidwees: Every teacher's college should include some preparation for educational technology. #edchat davidwees 5/31/11 12:01 PM Every teacher's college should spend some time talking alternative education systems. #edchat rliberni 5/31/11 12:01 PM RT @davidwees: Every teacher's college should include some preparation for educational technology. #edchat cybraryman1 5/31/11 12:01 PM RT @davidwees: Every teacher's college should include some preparation for educational technology. #edchat cybraryman1 5/31/11 12:01 PM College juniors in Performance-Based Undergrad program (School of Ed) at Bklyn College used to observe me teach once a week #edchat davidwees 5/31/11 12:02 PM I think that the practicum system needs to be reformed. Would prefer an apprenticeship model. See http://bit.ly/keM5dQ #edchat

CTuckerEnglish 5/31/11 12:02 PM Time in classroom w/students is crucial, but colleges need to provide opportunities to experiment w/variety of teaching models #edchat rliberni 5/31/11 12:02 PM @MZimmer557 so how to get the balance between real world learning and the 'academic' preparation? #edchat delta_dc 5/31/11 12:02 PM Only w/ real kids in mind >> MT @jsumnersmith: I've heard of profs making candidates write lesson plans for a whole school year. #edchat npf007 5/31/11 12:02 PM RT @cybraryman1: Welcome and thanks for joining us. Please remember to use the hashtag #edchat for each tweet. #edchat USCTeacher 5/31/11 12:02 PM Our students are required to complete 20 weeks of Guided Practice (student teaching) - 4-days a week in a classroom bell-to-bell #edchat DelaneyKirk 5/31/11 12:02 PM Need to teach students professionalism & impression mgt. Yes, this also means papers should be stapled, not dogeared. #edchat rkiker 5/31/11 12:02 PM http://bit.ly/iU8INU Researchers to study effects of teacher stress on the classroom #edchat readywriting 5/31/11 12:02 PM Tenured Radical: Are Students A Captive Audience? Constructive Dis... http://t.co/WaMHEAk #highered #edchat inquirebook 5/31/11 12:02 PM RT @shellterrell: @cybraryman1: #edchat Topic: What additions or changes can college make to better prepare teacher candidates? ShellTerrell 5/31/11 12:02 PM Agree! RT @rliberni: I think include many of our #edchat topics in their preparation! rliberni 5/31/11 12:02 PM RT @MZimmer557: After 1st year of teaching, I barely used anything from edu classes in college. Nothing applied to me. Real world experience did #edchat mbfxc 5/31/11 12:02 PM So excited to hear from teachers what we can do in higher ed to better prepare our teacher candidates! #edchat rliberni 5/31/11 12:02 PM RT @davidwees: Philosophy of education, "why do we do this?" should be in every teacher's college. #edchat stefras 5/31/11 12:02 PM @jsumnersmith My prof encouraged us to write unit plans, but only some lesson plans. #edchat

ShellTerrell 5/31/11 12:02 PM Would love to see college classes model good instructional practices vs mostly lecturing #Edchat MZimmer557 5/31/11 12:02 PM After 1st year of teaching, I barely used anything from edu classes in college. Nothing applied to me. Real world experience did #edchat davidwees 5/31/11 12:03 PM At least one course in a teacher's college should be seminar based w/ feedback from peers. #edchat DelaneyKirk 5/31/11 12:03 PM I agree! RT @davidwees Every teacher's college should include some preparation for educational technology. #edchat danolsonbc 5/31/11 12:03 PM RT @starleigh_grass: Solidarity playlist for teachers negotiating their contracts http://t.co/76Red2Y #bctf #bcpoli Saskatchewan teachers #fem2 #edchat Digin4ed 5/31/11 12:03 PM RT @rliberni: @MZimmer557 so how to get the balance between real world learning and the 'academic' preparation? #edchat rliberni 5/31/11 12:03 PM RT @CTuckerEnglish: Time in classroom w/students is crucial, but colleges need to provide opportunities to experiment w/variety of teaching models #edchat mbfxc 5/31/11 12:03 PM @rliberni This breaks my heart! #edchat

stefras 5/31/11 12:03 PM RT @davidwees: Every teacher's college should spend some time talking alternative education systems. #edchat cybraryman1 5/31/11 12:03 PM RT @ShellTerrell: Would love to see college classes model good instructional practices vs mostly lecturing #Edchat cybraryman1 5/31/11 12:03 PM They just taught theories #edchat @MZimmer557 I found the same.

CTuckerEnglish 5/31/11 12:04 PM I felt really prepared for teaching, but not for teaching in an increasingly digital society. #edchat stefras 5/31/11 12:04 PM @MZimmer557 I found the same thing. re prep from ed college. But Dip.Ed. helped that. I chose my courses. #edchat npf007 5/31/11 12:04 PM RT @davidwees: Every teacher's college should spend some time talking alternative education systems. #edchat mbfxc 5/31/11 12:04 PM i wish that student teaching was year long! Candidates need to experience the beginning & end of a school year! #edchat

rliberni 5/31/11 12:04 PM RT @MZimmer557: Educational Technology and Integrating Technology should be a REQUIRED class. Introduce grading software, testing software, etc #edchat SDucharme 5/31/11 12:04 PM #edchat At least a lesson or two on how to deal with difficult people - you're bound to run into one! Wld be good to have some strategies rliberni 5/31/11 12:04 PM RT @CTuckerEnglish: Pedagogy are important but application is also crucial. Students must apply the ideas they learn RT @rliberni: @MZimmer557 #edchat CTuckerEnglish 5/31/11 12:04 PM Pedagogy are important but application is also crucial. Students must apply the ideas they learn RT @rliberni: @MZimmer557 #edchat jsumnersmith 5/31/11 12:04 PM @stefras same here. I can count on one hand the # of plan I wrote in my program. #edchat MZimmer557 5/31/11 12:04 PM Educational Technology and Integrating Technology should be a REQUIRED class. Introduce grading software, testing software, etc #edchat eLearningGuild 5/31/11 12:04 PM RT @missnoor28: The #eLearning Guild's Handbook of e-Learning Strategy http://bit.ly/lnISTC #edtech #edchat USCTeacher 5/31/11 12:04 PM @cybraryman1 A blend of theory and practice is a necessity to prepare our future teachers #edchat USCTeacher 5/31/11 12:05 PM @MZimmer557 great perspective! Definitely a great asset for teachers to know & utilize technology in the classroom -it's the future! #edchat jsumnersmith 5/31/11 12:05 PM @delta_dc true. I think building the discipline is a nice take away. That's been one of my hang ups this year. #edchat EduTweetTech 5/31/11 12:05 PM Carson-Newman College Seeks Social Networking with New LMS: A 2,260-student private college in Jefferson... http://bit.ly/lz3ZbL #edchat blairteach 5/31/11 12:05 PM Worried that tech integration classes would focus too much on specific "tools" instead of process & ways to tch self new tools. #edchat maryannesacco 5/31/11 12:05 PM More time with practical inclass experiences with cooperating teacher--PT conferences, lesson planning, teacher pd meetings #edchat

davidwees 5/31/11 12:05 PM Teacher education programs should talk about alternatives to standard percent based grading. #edchat txlibraryguy 5/31/11 12:05 PM Teachers need to go to "boot camp" and get pumped up to be assertive leaders of classrooms over and above the classes. #edchat SDucharme 5/31/11 12:05 PM YES! RT @CTuckerEnglish: I felt really prepared for teaching, but not for teaching in an increasingly digital society. #edchat rliberni 5/31/11 12:05 PM RT @teachersnet: It can't be repeated too often: pre-teaching programs must include more classroom management training #edchat CTuckerEnglish 5/31/11 12:05 PM Word processing, excel sheets and power point were the extent of my "technology" training, which did not prepare me adequately #edchat rliberni 5/31/11 on the syllabus! #edchat 12:05 PM We need to ensure critical thinking is

teachersnet 5/31/11 12:05 PM It can't be repeated too often: preteaching programs must include more classroom management training #edchat hoosjon 5/31/11 12:05 PM @MZimmer557 YES!Student-teaching helped a TON, & jumping in & teaching helped the most! Classes about ed philosophy,etc? Not so much #edchat ShellTerrell 5/31/11 12:05 PM Agree! RT @MZimmer557: Colleges need less focus on educational theory and practices. More real world application. #edchat mbfxc 5/31/11 12:05 PM RT @davidwees: At least one course in a teacher's college should be seminar based w/ feedback from peers. #edchat cschools 5/31/11 12:05 PM Video/blog post on an apprenticeship that took our kids from minimal medical knowledge to young surgeons! http://bit.ly/klubgA #edchat cybraryman1 5/31/11 12:05 PM @sducharme Very important to learn how to communicate with those difficult people. #edchat ShellTerrell 5/31/11 12:05 PM RT @CTuckerEnglish: I felt really prepared for teaching, but not for teaching in an increasingly digital society. #edchat

davidwees 5/31/11 12:05 PM @TripMackay Exactly. It is a travesty that teacher education systems don't talk about alternatives to traditional schools. #edchat rliberni 5/31/11 12:05 PM RT @npf007: RT @davidwees: Every teacher's college should spend some time talking alternative education systems. #edchat MZimmer557 5/31/11 12:05 PM Colleges need less focus on educational theory and practices. More real world application. #edchat maryannesacco 5/31/11 12:06 PM More special ed courses and variety of instructional approaches is needed, even for gen ed candidates #edchat rliberni 5/31/11 12:06 PM Giving student teachers tech tools to create their PLN before they get into a job will help them from the start #edchat cybraryman1 5/31/11 12:06 PM @MZimmer557 I spoke in 1 class & students thanked me as they were hearing directly from practicing teacher & what to expect #edchat teachersnet 5/31/11 12:06 PM ...AND veteran teachers with weakness in classroom management need training and support #edchat cliffmanning 5/31/11 12:06 PM Audacity Guide - fun video tutorials ideal for classroom use - http://bit.ly/jLTIuj #ukedchat #edchat #edtech davidwees 5/31/11 12:06 PM Assessment FOR learning. Hello, why did I need to wait until I was 4 years into teaching to learn about this? #edchat NathanSandberg 5/31/11 12:06 PM RT @MZimmer557: Educational Technology and Integrating Technology should be a REQUIRED class. Introduce grading software, testing software, etc #edchat hoosjon 5/31/11 12:06 PM @davidwees But we need more than philosophy! LOVE your point about apprenticeship! Real world experience with a mentor is key! #edchat d_martin05 5/31/11 12:06 PM How do you Assess Creativity http://t.co/VVttqRo #abed #edreform #edchat #creativity #reddeernews #mathchat CTuckerEnglish 5/31/11 12:06 PM True, but virtual community building & "management" are key too RT @TeachersNet: more classroom management training #edchat

Write_To_Learn 5/31/11 12:06 PM How do you create a classroom library that is both organized and enticing to young readers? @readingrockets http://bit.ly/le0wh3 #edchat eLearningGuild 5/31/11 12:06 PM RT @missnoor28: 162 Tips and Tricks for Working with #eLearning Tools http://bit.ly/jH5IXU #edtech #edchat teachersnet 5/31/11 12:06 PM ...and new teachers need on site support with classroom management #edchat MZimmer557 5/31/11 12:06 PM Colleges and universities need to invite principals, teachers, Tech staff, CIA's, etc, into the classroom as guest speakers #edchat MZimmer557 5/31/11 12:06 PM Colleges and universities need to invite principals, teachers, Tech staff, CIA's, etc, into the classroom as guest speakers #edchat mbfxc 5/31/11 12:07 PM I'm all about teacher candidates taking ownership of their learning. This is what I'm doing in higher ed: http://t.co/V1csZ63 #edchat iteach4change 5/31/11 12:07 PM teacher ed programs need more on tech, special needs, and politics/finance of education; also more on culturally responsive teaching #edchat kegluskin 5/31/11 12:07 PM Excited for this week's #edchat as a recent college grad from a teach prep program!! davidwees 5/31/11 12:07 PM Teacher education systems should spend time focusing on building people who expect to learn continuously, rather than sporadically. #edchat CTuckerEnglish 5/31/11 12:07 PM Absolutely! If we stop learning, doesn't matter how good credential school was RT @luc_germain: #edchat cybraryman1 5/31/11 12:07 PM @maryannesacco Yes teachers should be prepared for all different types of learners #edchat patysavage 5/31/11 12:07 PM I'll use this in my workshop thnx! RT @missnoor28 Improving Education with free Web 2.0 tools http://bit.ly/gdM9Xd #edtech #edchat #EduJo kegluskin 5/31/11 12:07 PM @davidwees I completely agree. I had some classes in technology but not very useful! #edchat npf007 5/31/11 12:07 PM Alternative Assessments! RT @MZimmer557: Colleges need less focus on educational theory and practices. More real world application. #edchat

CTuckerEnglish 5/31/11 12:07 PM I'd love to see universities draw in their graduates who mastered some tech skills to "teach" cuz college feels 10 steps behind #edchat luc_germain 5/31/11 12:07 PM school on a regular basis ! #edchat Teachers should go back to

delta_dc 5/31/11 12:07 PM Teacher education ought to include significant time in a lab school - for both candidate and professors. MZimmer557 5/31/11 12:07 PM Edu students should be allowed into the classroom to actually teach a lesson they prepare with students, not with college classmates #edchat DelaneyKirk 5/31/11 12:07 PM RT @teachersnet: It can't be repeated too often: pre-teaching programs must include more classroom management training #edchat eyespeakbrasil 5/31/11 12:08 PM RT @mbfxc: I'm all about teacher candidates taking ownership of their learning. This is what I'm doing in higher ed: http://t.co/V1csZ63 #edchat ePaceonline 5/31/11 12:08 PM RT @teachersnet: It can't be repeated too often: pre-teaching programs must include more classroom management training #edchat mbfxc 5/31/11 12:08 PM start, but not the end! #edchat @bwasson I was the reverse! All set for the

ShellTerrell 5/31/11 12:08 PM RT @stumpteacher: IMO teacher ed programs I have been in and worked with miss the boat. Teaching kids how to teach 30-50 years ago. Not current. #edchat eLearning_softw 5/31/11 12:08 PM Six Social Media Trends for 2011 : http://goo.gl/PHSay #lrnchat #edchat #web20 #SMB Thanks2Teachers 5/31/11 12:08 PM RT @DianeRavitch DarlingHammond on our testing obsession & why other nations don't do it: http://tinyurl.com/3fz88l5 #edchat #edreform stefras 5/31/11 12:08 PM @davidwees I like the apprenticeship model idea. Never got much out of my practicums, particularly my advanced one. Intro one great. #edchat rliberni 5/31/11 12:08 PM RT @blairteach: @kegluskin Share w/us how well you feel your tchr prep program prepared you for reality. #edchat

GerryatLakeside 5/31/11 12:08 PM RT @teachersnet: ...AND veteran teachers with weakness in classroom management need training and support #edchat stumpteacher 5/31/11 12:08 PM IMO teacher ed programs I have been in and worked with miss the boat. Teaching kids how to teach 30-50 years ago. Not current. #edchat TutaPoint 5/31/11 12:08 PM RT @davidwees: Every teacher's college should include some preparation for educational technology. #edchat cybraryman1 5/31/11 #edchat 12:08 PM @kegluskin We need to hear from you.

rliberni 5/31/11 12:08 PM Have great mentors (My ESL teacher Mentoring programme started today http://bit.ly/mukGOF) #edchat teachersnet 5/31/11 12:08 PM @twoodwar classroom management makes delivery of interesting content possible #edchat blairteach 5/31/11 12:08 PM @kegluskin Share w/us how well you feel your tchr prep program prepared you for reality. #edchat jyasinchuk 5/31/11 12:08 PM For the word nreds Online Etymology dictionary: http://bit.ly/laYniF #edchat #bcltra #casl #cla cybraryman1 5/31/11 12:08 PM parts of your teacher training? #edchat @kegluskin What were the best/worst

ShellTerrell 5/31/11 12:08 PM RT @mbfxc: I'm all about teacher candidates taking ownership of their learning. This is what I'm doing in higher ed: http://t.co/V1csZ63 #edchat mbfxc 5/31/11 12:08 PM RT @delta_dc: Teacher education ought to include significant time in a lab school - for both candidate and professors. Jeff_shoemaker 5/31/11 12:09 PM RT @iteach4change: teacher ed programs need more on tech, special needs, and politics/finance of education; also more on culturally responsive teaching #edchat rliberni 5/31/11 12:09 PM RT @stefras: @davidwees I like the apprenticeship model idea. Never got much out of my practicums, particularly my advanced one. Intro one great. #edchat mbfxc 5/31/11 12:09 PM @stumpteacher Totally agree! Faculty must be in schools to know what is current! #edchat

rliberni 5/31/11 12:09 PM RT @stumpteacher: IMO teacher ed programs I have been in and worked with miss the boat. Teaching kids how to teach 30-50 years ago. Not current. #edchat donapie 5/31/11 12:09 PM RT @EDUTOPIA: New! Encouraging Your Students to Engage in Deeper Thinking http://bit.ly/kQTEiJ #edchat #k12 #ntchat cybraryman1 5/31/11 12:09 PM @USCTeacher I only got theory and little actual classroom preparation. Some theory is okay #edchat ShellTerrell 5/31/11 12:09 PM RT @davidwees: At least one course in a teacher's college should be seminar based w/ feedback from peers. #edchat B_Porlier 5/31/11 12:09 PM RT @eLearning_softw: Six Social Media Trends for 2011 : http://goo.gl/PHSay #lrnchat #edchat #web20 #SMB TeacherLola 5/31/11 12:09 PM RT @stumpteacher: IMO teacher ed programs I have been in and worked with miss the boat. Teaching kids how to teach 30-50 years ago. Not current. #edchat TutorMe_Online 5/31/11 12:09 PM RT @mbfxc: I'm all about teacher candidates taking ownership of their learning. This is what I'm doing in higher ed: http://t.co/V1csZ63 #edchat jdthomas7 5/31/11 12:09 PM RT @DGalpert: RT@web20classroom 5 Online Tools for School Administrators http://bit.ly/m8pyww #edtech #edchat #cpchat #jed21 ShellTerrell 5/31/11 12:09 PM RT @davidwees: Teacher education systems should spend time focusing on building people who expect to learn continuously, rather than sporadically. #edchat stumpteacher 5/31/11 12:09 PM @stefras @davidwees Practicums are often to short and you never develop a relationship with kids which is the key piece of teaching. #edchat TutaPoint 5/31/11 12:09 PM RT @eSchoolNews: Did you miss it? Five ways readers are using iPads in the classroom http://ow.ly/56Ji8 #ipad #elearning #edtech #edchat rliberni 5/31/11 12:09 PM RT @iteach4change: teacher ed programs need more on tech, special needs, and politics/finance of education; also more on culturally responsive teaching #edchat CTuckerEnglish 5/31/11 12:09 PM Wish professional dev was more consistently rewarding so teacher were more inspired to pursue opportunities to learn RT @davidwees: #edchat

cybraryman1 5/31/11 12:09 PM apprenticeship model. #edchat

@stefras I am also a fan of

rliberni 5/31/11 12:09 PM RT @mbfxc: I'm all about teacher candidates taking ownership of their learning. This is what I'm doing in higher ed: http://t.co/V1csZ63 #edchat Tina_Barr 5/31/11 12:10 PM Sorry I am late! Hello #edchat

stumpteacher 5/31/11 12:10 PM One change would be to have a coop with schools and universities. Have prof in schools where students are observing/teaching #edchat kegluskin 5/31/11 12:10 PM Learning strategies to differentiate instruction was helpful and extensively planned lessons. One downfall was lack of technology #edchat cybraryman1 5/31/11 12:10 PM @MZimmer557 Wrightslaw is very important: http://tinyurl.com/4xwkqws #edchat GaryM 5/31/11 12:10 PM The Science of Hitting a Baseball or a Softball http://t.co/snhRp3o #scichat #edchat carneysandoe 5/31/11 12:10 PM RT @cybraryman1: #edchat Topic: What additions or changes can college make to better prepare teacher candidates? USCTeacher 5/31/11 12:10 PM Would love feedback- What is more important for Stud Teacher? Guiding teacher with ton of experience or tech savvy with large PLN? #edchat HPTeachExchange 5/31/11 12:10 PM VIDEO - How to encourage collaboration with digital content. http://budurl.com/r47e #edtech #edchat kegluskin 5/31/11 12:10 PM I had many field placements in different grades &urban & suburban environments which helped me feel comfortable in all settings #edchat NETC_Travel 5/31/11 12:10 PM Motivation in numbers. RT @luc_germain: Encouraging Your Students to Engage in Deeper Thinking http://bit.ly/kQTEiJ (via @edutopia) #edchat pamwesely 5/31/11 12:10 PM How to create a plan for teaching tech tools every year in a teach ed prog, given rapid change and resource disparities? #edchat stefras 5/31/11 12:10 PM @stumpteacher That is why @davidwees idea of apprenticeship makes sense. #edchat

MZimmer557 5/31/11 12:10 PM undergrad teachers need classes on school law prior to graduate courses. Lots to know in relation to Money and Special Ed. #edchat cybraryman1 5/31/11 12:10 PM #edchat Topic: What additions or changes can college make to better prepare teacher candidates? sinetpd360 5/31/11 12:11 PM RT @mbfxc: I also feel that tech ed should be integrated into all courses not just a tech ed course! #edchat kegluskin 5/31/11 12:11 PM Agree-need to use all the time RT @mbfxc: I also feel that tech ed should be integrated into all courses not just a tech ed course! #edchat AFTTeach 5/31/11 12:11 PM Join #edchat now to discuss changes colleges could make to better prepare teacher candidates! #sschat #edtech #engchat #eltchat #langchat cpoole27 5/31/11 12:11 PM RT @davidwees: Teacher education systems should spend time focusing on building people who expect to learn continuously, rather than sporadically. #edchat mrwejr 5/31/11 12:11 PM I have to say that I have been so impressed with the teacher ed program at University of Fraser Valley porogressive, current #edchat #bced cybraryman1 5/31/11 12:11 PM RT @mbfxc: I also feel that tech ed should be integrated into all courses not just a tech ed course! #edchat phillynina 5/31/11 12:11 PM RT @eSchoolNews: Who needs a bulky textbook? http://ow.ly/56I5s #textbook #edchat #teachers cybraryman1 5/31/11 you receive? #edchat 12:11 PM @kegluskin What tech training did

inquirebook 5/31/11 12:11 PM Nice! RT @mbfxc: I'm all about teacher candidates taking ownership of their learning. This is what I'm doing: http://t.co/V1csZ63 #edchat mbfxc 5/31/11 12:11 PM I also feel that tech ed should be integrated into all courses not just a tech ed course! #edchat twoodwar 5/31/11 12:11 PM @TeachersNet I'd also argue that "delivery" of content and classroom mngmt go hand in hand for a reason #edchat CTuckerEnglish 5/31/11 12:11 PM Build in project based learning assessments into student teaching experiences. Design, facilitate&reflect RT @stefras: @stumpteacher #edchat

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kegluskin 5/31/11 12:11 PM I wish I had experimented with a smartboard because think would be very beneficial this day and age #edchat stumpteacher 5/31/11 agree with that. #edchat 12:11 PM @stefras @davidwees And I would

cybraryman1 5/31/11 12:11 PM RT @kegluskin: I had many field placements in different grades &urban & suburban environments which helped me feel comfortable ... #edchat maryannesacco 5/31/11 12:11 PM Now more than ever. And large class sizes RT @cybraryman1 Yes teachers should be prepared for all different types of learners #edchat Hibbottneiszner 5/31/11 12:12 PM should focus on the craft of teaching. #edchat RT @drtimony: Teacher prep

rliberni 5/31/11 12:12 PM RT @USCTeacher: Would love feedback- What is more important for Stud Teacher? Guiding teacher with ton of experience or tech savvy with large PLN? #edchat kjpmeyer 5/31/11 12:12 PM RT @stumpteacher: IMO teacher ed programs I have been in and worked with miss the boat. Teaching kids how to teach 30-50 years ago. Not current. #edchat Digin4ed 5/31/11 12:12 PM Perhaps colleges need more ongoing integrated support programs to K-12 schools to involve student teachers throughout education #edchat yonaa 5/31/11 12:12 PM RT @davidwees: Philosophy of education, "why do we do this?" should be in every teacher's college. #edchat stefras 5/31/11 12:12 PM @davidwees @TripMackay Also a travesty they don't teach alternative styles inside the classroom. #technology #inquiry #problemsolvin #edchat kjpmeyer 5/31/11 12:12 PM RT @davidwees: Teacher education systems should spend time focusing on building people who expect to learn continuously, rather than sporadically. #edchat rliberni 5/31/11 12:12 PM RT @kegluskin: I had many field placements in different grades &urban & suburban environments which helped me feel comfortable in all settings #edchat cybraryman1 5/31/11 12:12 PM focus on the craft of teaching. #edchat RT @drtimony: Teacher prep should

pamwesely 5/31/11 12:12 PM What tech ed is the responsibility of teacher ed programs, what tech ed is responsibility of schools? #edchat drtimony 5/31/11 of teaching. #edchat 12:12 PM Teacher prep should focus on the craft

kegluskin 5/31/11 12:12 PM @cybraryman1 We were shown some assistive technologies, created wikis, and shown basics but would've liked more hands-on experience #edchat NewsHourExtra 5/31/11 12:12 PM New videos from student reporting labs on the #dropout rate: http://bit.ly/98rHgO #edchat carneysandoe 5/31/11 12:12 PM Why would a college need 2 "better prepare teacher candidates" if its not part of wht they R designed 2 do? #edchat leonormes 5/31/11 12:12 PM RT @CTuckerEnglish: Wish professional dev was more consistently rewarding so teacher were more inspired to pursue opportunities to learn RT @davidwees: #edchat rliberni 5/31/11 12:12 PM I did much of my initial training 'on the job' with a great mentor #edchat then I got the certificate - makes you think differently #edchat cybraryman1 5/31/11 progressive? #edchat npf007 5/31/11 Diigo group for #edchat ? 12:12 PM 12:12 PM @MrWejr What makes it impressive & How about setting up a Delicious /

CTuckerEnglish 5/31/11 12:12 PM Expand view of teaching beyond verbal to appeal to multiple intelligences & engage more students. #edchat stumpteacher 5/31/11 12:12 PM I did not have one class on technology in the classroom prior to being hired to teach. #edchat cybraryman1 5/31/11 12:13 PM @kegluskin Yes hands-on is how you really learn. Need more of that in training and when you teach #edchat ericjuli5/31/11 12:13 PM Teacher Ed programs should teach high school teachers to believe they teach kids first, not content #edchat stumpteacher 5/31/11 12:13 PM much content driven... #edchat @DrTimony Couldn't agree more. Too

SDucharme 5/31/11 12:13 PM @pamwesely Profs should consult their librarians for cutting-edge tech tools and best ways to use them #edchat

johnpassantino 5/31/11 12:13 PM Teacher prep should focus on assuring quality and value in what we ask students to do . It's about learning. #edchat leonormes 5/31/11 12:13 PM RT @davidwees: Teacher education systems should spend time focusing on building people who expect to learn continuously, rather than sporadically. #edchat mrwejr 5/31/11 12:13 PM @cybraryman1 focus on formative assessment and PBL- challenges their students to be critcal of the current system #edchat cpoole27 5/31/11 12:13 PM RT @AFTTeach: Join #edchat now to discuss changes colleges could make to better prepare teacher candidates! #sschat #edtech #engchat #eltchat #langchat pamwesely 5/31/11 12:13 PM Ex: in teacher ed, we can teach SmartBoards from A to Z, but what about new teachers with no Smartboards? Wasted time #edchat daveandcori 5/31/11 12:13 PM LearnBoost - free online grade book and lesson planner and more http://goo.gl/LevQH #edtech #edadmin #edchat #free #gradebook inquirebook 5/31/11 12:13 PM Would drama training help teachers? The plays and improv I've done onstage help me feel at home in front of a class. #edchat ruthabuck 5/31/11 12:13 PM RT @AFTTeach: Join #edchat now to discuss changes colleges could make to better prepare teacher candidates! #sschat #edtech #engchat #eltchat #langchat CTuckerEnglish 5/31/11 12:13 PM Colleges need professors who are progressive & proficient in using tech in creative ways. #edchat MmeVachon 5/31/11 12:13 PM #edchat I was paired with a phenomenal mentor but cannot say the same for a lot of my classmates ericjuli5/31/11 12:13 PM Teacher Ed Programs should teach new t's to use content as the vehicle to learn skills instead of facts/content as only outcome #edchat taniasterling 5/31/11 12:13 PM Pre-service institutions need 2 teach how to ask good thick questions and promote oral language in clsrm. Key to #criticalthinking #edchat cybraryman1 5/31/11 12:13 PM Who should be teaching these programs on the college level to prepare teachers? #edchat

rliberni 5/31/11 12:13 PM RT @cybraryman1: @MZimmer557 Wrightslaw is very important: http://tinyurl.com/4xwkqws #edchat rliberni 5/31/11 12:13 PM RT @kegluskin: Learning strategies to differentiate instruction was helpful and extensively planned lessons. One downfall was lack of technology #edchat maryannesacco 5/31/11 12:13 PM @kegluskin Yes, a variety of settings - private, public, urban, suburban if possible is key #edchat stumpteacher 5/31/11 12:13 PM Too much time is spent hammering content and not on the art/craft of what we do. Tough to put that in a textbook #edchat web20education 5/31/11 12:13 PM Hi #edchat #PLN Next hour my tweets ... What additions or changes can college make to better prepare teacher candidates? for awesome #edchat maryannesacco 5/31/11 12:14 PM If and when possible, colleges need to work at placing students with experienced and willing teachers #edchat stefras 5/31/11 12:14 PM My bane. RT @TeachersNet: It can't be repeated too often: pre-teaching programs must include more classroom management training #edchat tomwhitby 5/31/11 12:14 PM teacher prep might improve if cooperating teachers were trained as to what to do w/student teachers. #Edchat stumpteacher 5/31/11 12:14 PM Is content knowledge the most important part of our jobs? Seems that is the focus in more degree programs. #edchat Digin4ed 5/31/11 12:14 PM need cycle ->RT @cybraryman1: @kegluskin Yes hands-on is how you really learn. Need more of that in training and when you teach #edchat rliberni 5/31/11 12:14 PM @stumpteacher I agree get all the profs into school now and then gr8 idea! #edchat spicyteaching 5/31/11 12:14 PM Practical training is important but professionals must immerse themslvs in theory and new research too; teachers as intellectuals #edchat AshleyWalther 5/31/11 12:14 PM How to implement discovery/inquiry based learning regularly #edchat QZLPatriotHawk 5/31/11 12:14 PM I feel bad for those that should hv been counseled out of the profession. I wish the colleges would do a better job of this. #edchat

USCTeacher 5/31/11 12:14 PM Couldn't agree more! RT @CTuckerEnglish: Colleges need professors who are progressive & proficient in using tech in creative ways. #edchat stefras 5/31/11 12:14 PM And problem solving., creativity. RT @rliberni: We need to ensure critical thinking is on the syllabus! #edchat leonormes 5/31/11 12:14 PM RT @patysavage: I'll use this in my workshop thnx! RT @missnoor28 Improving Education with free Web 2.0 tools http://bit.ly/gdM9Xd #edtech #edchat #EduJo mbfxc 5/31/11 12:14 PM @kegluskin It should be like water & air! Available all the time no matter where you r, what class you r taking or field experience #edchat nancyrubin 5/31/11 12:14 PM RT @kegluskin: Learning strategies to differentiate instruction was helpful and extensively planned lessons. One downfall was lack of technology #edchat CTuckerEnglish 5/31/11 12:14 PM Good point! Get a feel for different edu environments RT @maryannesacco: @kegluskin a variety of settings #edchat PILARtheMOON 5/31/11 12:14 PM RT @HPTeachExchange: Try these webtools. Video tour of online mindmapping sites. http://budurl.com/vemt #edchat #k12 yonaa 5/31/11 12:14 PM RT @rliberni: We need to ensure critical thinking is on the syllabus! #edchat npf007 5/31/11 12:14 PM Students engaged in practice teaching or practicum should blog more about their experiences. #edchat stefras 5/31/11 12:14 PM @hoosjon Classes about ed philosophy,etc came before practical so did not mean anything. No context. #edchat ggatin 5/31/11 12:14 PM RT @davidwees: Teacher education systems should spend time focusing on building people who expect to learn continuously, rather than sporadically. #edchat billgcta 5/31/11 12:14 PM RT @EDUTOPIA: New! Encouraging Your Students to Engage in Deeper Thinking http://bit.ly/kQTEiJ #edchat #k12 #ntchat rliberni 5/31/11 12:14 PM @Tina_Barr Hi Tina welcome we're talking about initial teacher ed programmes & what they should include #edchat

Tina_Barr 5/31/11 12:14 PM generate a better teacher? #edchat summersk0 5/31/11 #edchat 12:15 PM

Does a more expensive degree @DrTimony is that true to all grades?

malcolmbellamy 5/31/11 12:15 PM i would say an essential skill to learn for new teachers is to listen to their students #edchat kegluskin 5/31/11 12:15 PM @cybraryman1 People with teaching knowledge and experience should be teaching. Need to learn from "experts in the field" #edchat leonormes 5/31/11 12:15 PM I fully agree!RT @luc_germain: #edchat Teachers should go back to school on a regular basis ! cybraryman1 5/31/11 12:15 PM RT @Tina_Barr: More mentoring in the classroom as part of the college curriculum could prove effective #edchat npf007 5/31/11 12:15 PM RT @CTuckerEnglish: Blogging would be an effective way to build in reflection which is often neglected in the craziness of college setting RT @npf007: #edchat cybraryman1 5/31/11 12:15 PM @mbfxc No, I would like it to take place in schools in different settings #edchat Tina_Barr 5/31/11 12:15 PM More mentoring in the classroom as part of the college curriculum could prove effective #edchat MZimmer557 5/31/11 12:15 PM Developing detailed LP's is great for Intern year. Not done that much after first year, but so much emphasis in college #edchat stumpteacher 5/31/11 12:15 PM RT @davidwees: If our classrooms are supposed to be student centred, so too should our teacher colleges. #edchat MsHnub 5/31/11 12:15 PM Scott Walker should take the bulls-eye off the backs of teachers http://bit.ly/jlvkDR #edchat #wiunion rkiker 5/31/11 12:15 PM RT @davidwees: If our classrooms are supposed to be student centred, so too should our teacher colleges. #edchat rliberni 5/31/11 12:15 PM RT @inquirebook: Nice! RT @mbfxc: I'm all about teacher candidates taking ownership of their learning. This is what I'm doing: http://t.co/V1csZ63 #edchat stumpteacher 5/31/11 12:15 PM @rliberni I am just thinking if we had a "resident" prof in the building that was a liaison between college and school. #edchat

malinkaiva 5/31/11 12:15 PM RT @eLearningGuild @missnoor28: 162 Tips and Tricks for Working with #eLearning Tools http://bit.ly/jH5IXU #edtech #edchat davidwees 5/31/11 12:15 PM If our classrooms are supposed to be student centred, so too should our teacher colleges. #edchat librarykittie 5/31/11 from the college? 12:15 PM #edchat How about continuing PD

rliberni 5/31/11 12:15 PM RT @mbfxc: I also feel that tech ed should be integrated into all courses not just a tech ed course! #edchat EdOptionsInc 5/31/11 12:15 PM Different Ways to Look at Bloom's Taxonomy http://zite.to/iIoqZK (via @Ziteapp @thenerdyteacher) #edtech #edchat ashleydburleson 5/31/11 12:15 PM Different Ways to Look at Bloom's Taxonomy http://zite.to/iIoqZK (via @Ziteapp @thenerdyteacher) #edtech #edchat cybraryman1 5/31/11 12:15 PM RT @tomwhitby: teacher prep might improve if cooperating teachers were trained as to what to do w/student teachers. #Edchat daveandcori 5/31/11 12:15 PM LearnBoost - free online grade book and lesson planner and more http://goo.gl/fb/khp7C #edtech, #edchat cpoole27 5/31/11 12:15 PM Colleges need to embrace the need for training teachers how to use tech to enhance the learning process #edchat eclassroomnews 5/31/11 12:15 PM Struggle to learn mathematics, your child may have dyscalculia http://ow.ly/56GKN #edchat #mathchat rliberni 5/31/11 12:15 PM RT @kegluskin: I wish I had experimented with a smartboard because think would be very beneficial this day and age #edchat USCTeacher 5/31/11 12:15 PM anyone have any feedback? #edchat @rliberni thanks for the retweet -

ShellTerrell 5/31/11 12:15 PM RT @tomwhitby: teacher prep might improve if cooperating teachers were trained as to what to do w/student teachers. #Edchat CTuckerEnglish 5/31/11 12:15 PM Blogging would be an effective way to build in reflection which is often neglected in the craziness of college setting RT @npf007: #edchat

mbfxc 5/31/11 12:15 PM @cybraryman1 Great question! And does it have to be on a college campus? #edchat web20education 5/31/11 12:16 PM #Protonotes add notes to your prototype to collaborate with your team #edtech20 #elearning #edchat #ukedchat #elemchat http://t.co/r0RxI0c CTuckerEnglish 5/31/11 12:16 PM Great point! Choose mentors based on interest & knowledge. Many don't even apply but are forced. RT @tomwhitby: #Edchat carneysandoe 5/31/11 12:16 PM RT @inquirebook: Would drama training help teachers? The plays and improv I've done really help me in front of a class. #edchat AntLak 5/31/11 12:16 PM RT @tomwhitby: teacher prep might improve if cooperating teachers were trained as to what to do w/student teachers. #Edchat #epsb mbfxc 5/31/11 12:16 PM @tomwhitby Completely agree! #edchat

USCTeacher 5/31/11 12:16 PM @Tina_Barr Totally agree - our students have a significant blend of theory and practice (20 weeks of Stud Teaching 4 days per week) #edchat EarlSamuelson 5/31/11 12:16 PM RT @stefras: Hear, hear. RT @blairteach: Worried that tech integration classes would focus too much on specific "tools" instead of process. #edchat johnpassantino 5/31/11 12:16 PM Get beyond tech integration. Tech exists. Must be considered integral part of toolbox. #edchat rliberni 5/31/11 12:16 PM RT @pamwesely: What tech ed is the responsibility of teacher ed programs, what tech ed is responsibility of schools? #edchat ericjuli5/31/11 12:16 PM I find new t's focus on "what" to teach, rather than "why" and how to meet needs of specific students sitting in front of them #edchat cybraryman1 5/31/11 12:16 PM @kegluskin That is exactly how I feel. Teachers should be the ones who have recent teaching experience #edchat drtimony 5/31/11 12:16 PM @stumpteacher lots to be learned from urban prgrms. practice in real life. Walk in, teach, we don't need not stinking materials! #edchat

davidwees 5/31/11 12:16 PM Grading teachers in teacher college? Productive? Do the people with the best grades become the best teachers? #edchat maryannesacco 5/31/11 12:16 PM Also, my experience has been that colleges vary in terms of student teacher supervision. A strong advisory model is necessary #edchat inquirebook 5/31/11 12:16 PM Would drama training help teachers? The plays and improv I've done really help me in front of a class. #edchat ShellTerrell 5/31/11 12:16 PM RT @tomwhitby: student teaching would be improved if cooperating teachers were picked with some criteria other than just volunteering. #Edchat ShellTerrell 5/31/11 12:16 PM RT @kegluskin: RT @taniasterling: Pre-service institutions need 2 teach how to ask good thick questions and promote oral language in classroom #edchat tomwhitby 5/31/11 12:16 PM student teaching would be improved if cooperating teachers were picked with some criteria other than just volunteering. #Edchat CTuckerEnglish 5/31/11 12:16 PM I was surprised when contacted local colleges to present on blended learning for free w/ no reply RT @USCTeacher: #edchat kegluskin 5/31/11 12:16 PM RT @taniasterling: Pre-service institutions need 2 teach how to ask good thick questions and promote oral language in classroom #edchat Lic_Celis 5/31/11 12:16 PM RT @kegluskin: Learning strategies to differentiate instruction was helpful and extensively planned lessons. One downfall was lack of technology #edchat cybraryman1 5/31/11 12:16 PM RT @kegluskin: @cybraryman1 People with teaching knowledge and experience should be teaching. Need to learn from "experts in the field" #edchat rliberni 5/31/11 12:16 PM RT @cybraryman1: Who should be teaching these programs on the college level to prepare teachers? #edchat teachersnet 5/31/11 12:16 PM RT @davidwees: Teacher education systems should spend time focusing on building people who expect to learn continuously, rather than sporadically. #edchat stefras 5/31/11 12:16 PM Hear, hear. RT @blairteach: Worried that tech integration classes would focus too much on specific "tools" instead of process. #edchat

jsumnersmith 5/31/11 12:16 PM Wish I had learned about mapping learning pathways. So much was generalized about ordering student mastery of content. #edchat mbfxc 5/31/11 12:17 PM @cybraryman1 My dissertation focused on the ideal teacher prep & it was in schools collaborating with higher ed, teachers and admins #edchat ronnieburt 5/31/11 12:17 PM It's sad that much of #edchat discussion about teacher prep programs are so negative - there are good ones! See @uteachinstitute stefras 5/31/11 12:17 PM Already do that. ;-) RT @luc_germain: #edchat Teachers should go back to school on a regular basis ! CTuckerEnglish 5/31/11 12:17 PM So true! Instructional strategies makes content you know something students can access! RT @kegluskin: @stumpteacher #edchat markbarnes19 5/31/11 12:17 PM RT @EDUTOPIA: New! Encouraging Your Students to Engage in Deeper Thinking http://bit.ly/kQTEiJ #edchat #k12 #ntchat rliberni 5/31/11 12:17 PM RT @johnpassantino: Teacher prep should focus on assuring quality and value in what we ask students to do . It's about learning. #edchat librarykittie 5/31/11 12:17 PM @cybraryman Which experts: college profs who haven't been in a classroom in years, or local mentor teachers? #edchat drtimony 5/31/11 12:17 PM Not sure of your question. All grade level teachers? RT @summersk0: is that true to all grades? #edchat johnpassantino 5/31/11 12:17 PM Focus on moving learning process to students' hands as much as possible. #edchat ShellTerrell 5/31/11 12:17 PM Teacher Ed programs really need to have an entire course dedicated to online/offline prof developmt including presentation skills #edchat ktenkely 5/31/11 12:17 PM I think every teacher prep program should include the art of storytelling-my best teachers were master story tellers. #edchat cpoole27 5/31/11 12:17 PM RT @rkiker: RT @davidwees: If our classrooms are supposed to be student centred, so too should our teacher colleges. #edchat

cybraryman1 5/31/11 12:17 PM It's not all about tech. Teachers need classroom management, communication, organization skills first #edchat rliberni 5/31/11 12:17 PM RT @inquirebook: Would drama training help teachers? The plays and improv I've done onstage help me feel at home in front of a class. #edchat rliberni 5/31/11 12:17 PM RT @inquirebook: Would drama training help teachers? The plays and improv I've done onstage help me feel at home in front of a class. #edchat lariboutme 5/31/11 12:17 PM RT @davidwees: Teacher education systems should spend time focusing on building people who expect to learn continuously, rather than sporadically. #edchat lariboutme 5/31/11 12:17 PM RT @davidwees: Teacher education systems should spend time focusing on building people who expect to learn continuously, rather than sporadically. #edchat cpoole27 5/31/11 12:17 PM RT @mbfxc: I also feel that tech ed should be integrated into all courses not just a tech ed course! #edchat cpoole27 5/31/11 12:17 PM RT @mbfxc: I also feel that tech ed should be integrated into all courses not just a tech ed course! #edchat SandraVanWinkle 5/31/11 12:17 PM RT @AshleyWalther: How to implement discovery/inquiry based learning regularly #edchat SandraVanWinkle 5/31/11 12:17 PM RT @AshleyWalther: How to implement discovery/inquiry based learning regularly #edchat rliberni 5/31/11 12:17 PM RT @MmeVachon: #edchat I was paired with a phenomenal mentor but cannot say the same for a lot of my classmates davidwees 5/31/11 12:17 PM RT @mrwejr: I have to say that I have been so impressed with the teacher ed program at University of Fraser Valley porogressive, current #edchat #bced kegluskin 5/31/11 12:17 PM @stumpteacher Content knowledge is important but instructional strategies as well as ways to find information are important too! #edchat stumpteacher 5/31/11 12:17 PM @DrTimony Agreed. Best learning I ever did was summer school teaching of an inner city chicago class. #edchat

rliberni 5/31/11 12:17 PM RT @taniasterling: Pre-service institutions need 2 teach how to ask good thick questions and promote oral language in clsrm. Key to #criticalthinking #edchat wcet_info 5/31/11 12:18 PM RT @ecampusnews: The iPad has some catching up to do in the eBook market. http://ow.ly/56CkN #edtech #college #edchat #highered ShellTerrell 5/31/11 12:18 PM Teacher Ed programs should have a course designed on effective communication w/ parents, admin, students! Not enough comm in edu #edchat rliberni 5/31/11 12:18 PM RT @rkiker: RT @davidwees: If our classrooms are supposed to be student centred, so too should our teacher colleges. #edchat inquirebook 5/31/11 12:18 PM RT @rkiker: @davidwees: If our classrooms are supposed to be student centered, so too should our teacher colleges. #edchat Digin4ed 5/31/11 12:18 PM I see lots of additions to teaching programs, what should be given up to make space for them? #edchat (no can't have everything) kegluskin 5/31/11 12:18 PM Veteran educators: what are some things you wish you had learned in college? #edchat drtimony 5/31/11 12:18 PM @davidwees If you view grades from the right perspective, yes. They should paint a whole picture across content. Use to calibrate. #edchat stumpteacher 5/31/11 12:18 PM teaching to hide behind tech. #edchat @cybraryman1 Too easy for mediocre

cybraryman1 5/31/11 12:18 PM RT @kegluskin: @cybraryman1 I was lucky that most of my teachers were still involved in schools or actively researching! #edchat USCTeacher 5/31/11 12:18 PM @CTuckerEnglish That's disappointing - we should connect on that topic #edchat ktenkely 5/31/11 12:18 PM @cybraryman1 @kegluskin I had similar experience taught all 6 grades in a mix of social and economic environments- so important! #edchat rliberni 5/31/11 12:18 PM RT @Digin4ed: need cycle ->RT @cybraryman1: @kegluskin Yes hands-on is how you really learn. Need more of that in training and when you teach #edchat

kegluskin 5/31/11 12:18 PM @cybraryman1 I was lucky that most of my teachers were still involved in schools or actively researching! #edchat Hibbottneiszner 5/31/11 12:18 PM @cybraryman1 I added comments on a per-service teacher's blog yesterday regarding tech integration in tchr prep, will look for link #edchat cybraryman1 5/31/11 12:18 PM @librarykittie I want to learn from people who actually do the things they teach #edchat tomwhitby 5/31/11 12:18 PM Teaching programs should include a course specifially for Educational technology tools and social media awareness. #Edchat hoosjon 5/31/11 12:18 PM @stefras I think after student teaching ed phlsphy classes with real teachers arguing for "their philosophy" would be great #edchat MmeVachon 5/31/11 12:18 PM RT @tomwhitby: student teaching would be improved if cooperating teachers were picked with some criteria other than just volunteering. #Edchat pamwesely 5/31/11 12:18 PM I hear - more practical, more tech tools, less practical, less tech tools, more mentoring, less mentoring...help! #edchat luc_germain 5/31/11 12:18 PM an intermediate "pre-teacher" status #edchat longer practicing periods and

npf007 5/31/11 12:18 PM Teachers especially the senior ones should be required to be involved in research about education to get permanent status. #edchat QZLPatriotHawk 5/31/11 12:18 PM I don't think U can put preservice tchers in enough real world situation - more practicums, less lecture from retired adm. #edchat drtimony 5/31/11 12:19 PM Arts teachers expected to be artists. Why no other content areas? I think I like the idea of content specialist before teacher prep #edchat CTuckerEnglish 5/31/11 12:19 PM I'd love to! Seems a shame to be presenting around country at edu tech conf but can't help teachers in college RT @USCTeacher: #edchat rliberni 5/31/11 12:19 PM RT @kegluskin: @cybraryman1 People with teaching knowledge and experience should be teaching. Need to learn from "experts in the field" #edchat

chrisemdin 5/31/11 12:19 PM RT @ShellTerrell: Teacher Ed programs should have a course designed on effective communication w/ parents, admin, students! Not enough comm in edu #edchat ktenkely 5/31/11 12:19 PM @ShellTerrell Parent engagement was not focused on enough in my college experience- would have been helpful! #edchat rliberni 5/31/11 12:19 PM RT @leonormes: I fully agree!RT @luc_germain: #edchat Teachers should go back to school on a regular basis ! davidwees 5/31/11 12:19 PM How many teacher colleges invite alumni back to talk about their experiences? Share their ideas? #edchat rliberni 5/31/11 12:19 PM RT @Tina_Barr: More mentoring in the classroom as part of the college curriculum could prove effective #edchat MZimmer557 5/31/11 12:19 PM @rliberni Must be more integrating teacher education into classrooms. "observations" is not a deep enough impact into classroom #edchat ericjuli5/31/11 12:19 PM Preparing T's for urban settings should look different than suburban. Some good instructional practices are universal but not all #edchat johnpassantino 5/31/11 12:19 PM It's not all about the tech; the tech is here. Must teach in the 21st century. Digital natives and all. #edchat stumpteacher 5/31/11 12:19 PM @DrTimony @davidwees It comes down to what the grade on the paper represents and how you determine what/how you grade #edchat rliberni 5/31/11 12:19 PM @stumpteacher sounds like a good idea I think 'academics' in edu are often too far away from the chalk face #edchat pamwesely 5/31/11 12:19 PM YES! RT @Digin4ed: I see lots of additions to teaching programs, what should be given up to make space for them? #edchat CTuckerEnglish 5/31/11 12:19 PM Right! If we want to steer new teachers away from lecture based approach, DON'T make them sit in lectures RT @QZLPatriotHawk: #edchat summersk0 5/31/11 12:19 PM @ktenkely I agree with that! even my favorite MATH teacher was a best storyteller! #edchat davidwees 5/31/11 12:19 PM How many people here would volunteer to teach a workshop on social media at your local teacher's college? #edchat

cybraryman1 5/31/11 12:19 PM We are lucky to have @kegluskin a recent college grad here today. Thanks for your sharing #edchat LeaksEdToys 5/31/11 12:19 PM RT @ShellTerrell: Teacher Ed programs really need to have an entire course dedicated to online/offline prof developmt including presentation skills #edchat vickyloras 5/31/11 12:19 PM RT @Ilotimo: RT @apuustin: NEW BLOG READ Leadership Think tank http://bit.ly/iZBe3s #finnedchat #leadership #edchat kegluskin 5/31/11 12:19 PM Definitiely RT @cybraryman1: It's not all about tech. Teachers need classroom management, communication, organization skills first #edchat rliberni 5/31/11 12:20 PM RT @cybraryman1: How can relationships between teacher colleges & school systems be formed so they can to communicate & share with one another #edchat Tina_Barr 5/31/11 12:20 PM RT @cybraryman1: How can relationships between teacher colleges & school systems be formed so they can to communicate & share with one another #edchat malcolmbellamy 5/31/11 12:20 PM I would have a large input on Assessment For Learning which is often poorly understood and practiced #edchat delta_dc 5/31/11 12:20 PM #edchat Cooperating teachers need to be trained in instructional coaching techniques. rliberni 5/31/11 12:20 PM RT @inquirebook: I like what people are saying about teaching teachers to be lifelong learners--models of learning for their students. #edchat PLANETPALS 5/31/11 12:20 PM Have an end of the year school swap A gr8 way to #recycle http://bit.ly/fAsaFX #teachers #edchat #ece #earlyed #preschool cybraryman1 5/31/11 12:20 PM How can relationships between teacher colleges & school systems be formed so they can to communicate & share with one another #edchat taniasterling 5/31/11 12:20 PM @tomwhitby 4 me, the ideal tchr candidate/associate tchr relationship would involve active persnl prof inquiry on part of both ppl #edchat

MZimmer557 5/31/11 12:20 PM More emphasis and preparation for dealing with parents of students with discipline issues and those with 4.0's. different spectrums #edchat rliberni 5/31/11 12:20 PM RT @luc_germain: #edchat Agreed w. @ShellTerrell teachers are supposed to be communicators and receive (in Belgium) no communication courses inquirebook 5/31/11 12:20 PM I like what people are saying about teaching teachers to be lifelong learners--models of learning for their students. #edchat mbfxc 5/31/11 12:20 PM RT @davidwees: How many teacher colleges invite alumni back to talk about their experiences? Share their ideas? #edchat luc_germain 5/31/11 12:20 PM #edchat Agreed w. @ShellTerrell teachers are supposed to be communicators and receive (in Belgium) no communication courses rliberni 5/31/11 12:20 PM RT @cybraryman1: It's not all about tech. Teachers need classroom management, communication, organization skills first #edchat rkiker 5/31/11 12:20 PM RT @DrTimony: Arts teachers expected to be artists. Why no other content areas? I think I like the idea of content specialist #edchat ktenkely 5/31/11 12:20 PM @summersk0 Mine too. Didn't matter which subject, if they could tell a story I was engaged! #edchat summersk0 5/31/11 12:20 PM @ShellTerrell this is why I think incorporation of technology wil help Ed programs #edchat carneysandoe 5/31/11 12:20 PM Do you believe there is an innate drive or ability for teaching hampering the levels of success in college for some? #edchat stumpteacher 5/31/11 12:20 PM @davidwees I go back and speak to edu 101 classes about the first years. #edchat davidwees 5/31/11 12:20 PM UBC Science sends me information ALL the time on what's going on and invites me back to alumni events, for example. #edchat maryannesacco 5/31/11 12:20 PM @davidwees The graduate school I attended didn't have a traditional grading system. I learned most from hands-on, practical exp. #edchat

Digin4ed 5/31/11 12:20 PM RT @pamwesely: YES! RT @Digin4ed: I see lots of additions to teaching programs, what should be given up to make space for them? #edchat QZLPatriotHawk 5/31/11 12:21 PM U cannot teach how to effectively teach w/out putting them in the real world situation. #edchat rliberni 5/31/11 12:21 PM RT @cybraryman1: RT @kegluskin: It's also important to give students time 2 talk with each other & share their experiences-learn from others ..! #edchat vlc_csd 5/31/11 12:21 PM RT @ktenkely: I think every teacher prep program should include the art of storytelling-my best teachers were master story tellers. #edchat Hibbottneiszner 5/31/11 http://bit.ly/kox6Pq #edchat 12:21 PM @cybraryman1: found it

web20education 5/31/11 12:21 PM RT @ktenkely: @ShellTerrell Parent engagement was not focused on enough in my college experience- would have been helpful! #edchat Tina_Barr 5/31/11 12:21 PM @cybraryman1 That is a tough. Much reform wld B needed 2 build stronger relationships. Perhaps colleges cn reach out 2 skools. #edchat rliberni 5/31/11 12:21 PM @MZimmer557 do you not have actual 'hands on' teaching practice integrated into course as in the UK? #edchat ShellTerrell 5/31/11 12:21 PM focus on the craft of teaching. #edchat RT @drtimony: Teacher prep should

MZimmer557 5/31/11 12:21 PM Must be a focus on special education law and requirements in the undergraduate setting. #edchat Learning how to collaborate cybraryman1 5/31/11 12:21 PM RT @kegluskin: It's also important to give students time 2 talk with each other & share their experiences-learn from others ..! #edchat H_Alabdulhadi 5/31/11 12:21 PM RT @almodaires: RT

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@cybraryman1 Get professors in

ShellTerrell 5/31/11 12:21 PM RT @kegluskin: It's also important to give students time 2 talk with each other & share their experiences-learn from others going thu same program! #edchat

Mr_Johansson5/31/11 12:21 PM RT @cybraryman1: It's not all about tech. Teachers need classroom management, communication, organization skills first #edchat mr_casal 5/31/11 12:21 PM Problem w/teacher ed prgrms is they are generally taught by PhD theorists, actual classroom practitioners as profs are rare imho #edchat ShellTerrell 5/31/11 12:21 PM RT @malcolmbellamy: I would have a large input on Assessment For Learning which is often poorly understood and practiced #edchat stefras 5/31/11 12:21 PM @USCTeacher Guiding teacher to begin with. Can get tech through PD. #edchat CTuckerEnglish 5/31/11 12:21 PM That is an interesting Q. Most teachers I know have latent artists inside, but are so overworked they can't access RT @DrTimony: #edchat web20education 5/31/11 12:21 PM RT @rliberni: RT @rkiker: RT @davidwees: If our classrooms are supposed to be student centred, so too should our teacher colleges. #edchat kegluskin 5/31/11 12:21 PM It's also important to give students time 2 talk with each other & share their experiences-learn from others going thu same program! #edchat rliberni 5/31/11 12:21 PM RT @malcolmbellamy: I would have a large input on Assessment For Learning which is often poorly understood and practiced #edchat ShellTerrell 5/31/11 12:21 PM RT @luc_germain: #edchat Agreed w. @ShellTerrell teachers are supposed to be communicators and receive (in Belgium) no communication courses USCTeacher 5/31/11 12:22 PM Good point! RT @QZLPatriotHawk: U cannot teach how to effectively teach w/out putting them in the real world situation. #edchat cpoole27 5/31/11 12:22 PM Shouldn't focus on the "ideal" classroom always but also the classroom with reluctant students and how to inspire them as well #edchat angwe 5/31/11 12:22 PM @USCTeacher And that was possibly the most helpful part of the curriculum @ that moment. #edchat rliberni 5/31/11 12:22 PM RT @MZimmer557: Allow more teachers with Master's in education and administration to teach the courses...not professors far removed from classroom #edchat

maryannesacco 5/31/11 12:22 PM @davidwees Good question.Inviting alumni back would be smart. Many colleges do place students w cooperating teachers who are alumns #edchat stefras 5/31/11 12:22 PM @stumpteacher That happens in Canada. Or at least in ALberta. Coop teacher. #edchat ShellTerrell 5/31/11 12:22 PM RT @ktenkely: Parent engagement was not focused on enough in my college experience- would have been helpful! #edchat rliberni 5/31/11 12:22 PM RT @ShellTerrell: RT @chrisemdin: Communication with parents/guardians & admin is a major part of the class I teach to future teachers #edchat iteach4change 5/31/11 12:22 PM Tcher ed prgrms need more involvment from "practitioners" than just field obsrvn & stud tchng- guest tch class sessions @ the coll #edchat mbfxc 5/31/11 12:22 PM @cybraryman1 Same argument we hear btwn transitions from elem 2 middle 2 high school. We need more time to meet & plan transitions #edchat cybraryman1 5/31/11 12:22 PM @stumpteacher Get actual practicing teachers in college education programs or at least have them as guests #edchat ShellTerrell 5/31/11 12:22 PM RT @summersk0: this is why I think incorporation of technology wil help Ed programs #edchat Tina_Barr 5/31/11 12:22 PM RT @CarneySandoe: Do u believe there is an innate drive or ability for teaching hampering the levels of success in college for some? #edchat CTuckerEnglish 5/31/11 12:22 PM Great point. Theory is interesting, but must be linked 2 instructional strategies or won't help teachers in classroom RT @Mr_Casal: #edchat knolinfos 5/31/11 12:22 PM RT @ktenkely: I think every teacher prep program should include the art of storytelling-my best teachers were master story tellers. #edchat rliberni 5/31/11 12:22 PM RT @web20education: RT @ktenkely: @ShellTerrell Parent engagement was not focused on enough in my college experience- would have been helpful! #edchat Write_To_Learn 5/31/11 12:22 PM WriteToLearn comes together with Common Core Standards in 4 key areas! http://bit.ly/iAKcZF #edchat #edtech #commoncore

johnpassantino 5/31/11 12:22 PM Content specialists are valuable if they're lifelong learners and willing to turn over learning to students. #edchat MZimmer557 5/31/11 12:22 PM Allow more teachers with Master's in education and administration to teach the courses...not professors far removed from classroom #edchat ShellTerrell 5/31/11 12:22 PM RT @chrisemdin: Communication with parents/guardians & admin is a major part of the class I teach to future teachers #edchat drtimony 5/31/11 12:23 PM @ctuckerenglish I don't mean that everyone should be artists. Rather, everyone should be a practitioner of their field. #edchat johnpassantino 5/31/11 12:23 PM Student engagement is key. Best teaching techniques will not reach the disengaged student. #edchat itslearningUSA 5/31/11 12:23 PM Three #free online tools to enhance your teaching from @itslearning http://ow.ly/56BVL #edtech #elearning #learning #k12 #school #edchat USCTeacher 5/31/11 12:23 PM @angwe great to hear that! #edchat

stumpteacher 5/31/11 12:23 PM @mbfxc @cybraryman1 Too many prof are too far removed from a "real" classroom to provide valid input/direction. #edchat juandoming 5/31/11 12:23 PM http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/15074709 paula_om y clases con #TIC y #PLE #PLN #socialmedia #web20 #educacin #edchat carneysandoe 5/31/11 #edchat 12:23 PM But what makes a good teacher?

cpoole27 5/31/11 12:23 PM RT @kegluskin: It's also important to give students time 2 talk with each other & share their experiences-learn from others going thu same program! #edchat tomwhitby 5/31/11 12:23 PM Teacher prep needs a better balance of Content in the subject area and methods and Pedagogy. Too much emphasis on content now. #Edchat npf007 5/31/11 12:23 PM RT @CTuckerEnglish: Right! If we want to steer new teachers away from lecture based approach, DON'T make them sit in lectures #edchat

inquirebook 5/31/11 12:23 PM RT @cybraryman1: How can relationships between teacher colleges & school systems be formed to communicate & share with one another #edchat CTuckerEnglish 5/31/11 12:23 PM Tech integration is essential given changing landscape that students are entering after HS/college RT @ShellTerrell: RT @summersk0: #edchat ShellTerrell 5/31/11 12:23 PM RT @MZimmer557: Allow more teachers with Master's in education and administration to teach the courses...not professors far removed from classroom #edchat cybraryman1 5/31/11 12:23 PM @mbfxc That is what is really missing on all levels. I so agree and never have seen it successfully done. #edchat ShellTerrell 5/31/11 12:23 PM @chrisemdin Do you have a syllabus or post in which you describe this for others to learn from? #edchat pamwesely 5/31/11 12:23 PM I'm saddened by the fact that no one seems to think that teacher ed profs are qualified or doing a good job. #edchat rliberni 5/31/11 12:23 PM RT @iteach4change: Tcher ed prgrms need more involvment from "practitioners" than just field obsrvn & stud tchngguest tch class sessions @ the coll #edchat mbfxc 5/31/11 in too! #edchat 12:23 PM @cybraryman1 @stumpteacher Skype them

Mike_Kiely 5/31/11 12:23 PM RT @tomwhitby: Teaching programs should include a course specifially for Educational technology tools and social media awareness. #Edchat Dista11 5/31/11 12:24 PM focus on the craft of teaching. #edchat RT @drtimony: Teacher prep should

delta_dc 5/31/11 12:24 PM #edchat Teacher education does not have the time to teach all that new teachers need to know. Focus on life-long learning & problem solving CTuckerEnglish 5/31/11 12:24 PM I understand. I think continued practice in one's area of interest is key to long-term passion in teaching RT @DrTimony: #edchat rliberni 5/31/11 12:24 PM @pamwesely I'm sure some are but we seem to 'go through the motions' so much in education #edchat cpoole27 5/31/11 12:24 PM RT @cybraryman1: @stumpteacher Get actual practicing teachers in college education programs or at least have them as guests #edchat

Dista11 5/31/11 12:24 PM RT @MZimmer557: Allow more teachers with Master's in education and administration to teach the courses...not professors far removed from classroom #edchat maryannesacco 5/31/11 12:24 PM @maryannesacco @davidwees Correction: "some" do, "many" more should #edchat Chrissy_Kelly 5/31/11 12:24 PM RT @MZimmer557: Allow more teachers with Master's in education and administration to teach the courses...not professors far removed from classroom #edchat cybraryman1 5/31/11 12:24 PM @pamwesely There are excellent college profs. @tomwhitby is a shining example #edchat billgcta 5/31/11 12:24 PM RT @ToddWhitaker: If one test can determine our ability to succeed, then why don't all employers give their applicants that one test? #edchat #leadership mr_casal 5/31/11 12:24 PM Want to improve teacher ed programs? Hire competent classroom teachers as profs. Most of my profs had never taught a class #edchat carneysandoe 5/31/11 12:24 PM RT @JohnPassantino: Student engagement is key. Best teaching techniques will not reach the disengaged student. #edchat Sharvey85 5/31/11 12:24 PM @MZimmer557 I always thought edu profs should go back to the classroom for two years every five years #edchat rliberni 5/31/11 12:25 PM RT @johnpassantino: Student engagement is key. Best teaching techniques will not reach the disengaged student. #edchat cybraryman1 5/31/11 12:25 PM No one prepared me for what I faced when I first starting teaching. Best prep came from my school PLN & observing other teachers #edchat johnpassantino 5/31/11 12:25 PM @MZimmer557 Can those traits be taught in teacher prep programs or are they inherent? #edchat CTuckerEnglish 5/31/11 12:25 PM If teachers are given a chance to explore tech in college, then they will be more open to using in the future #edchat rliberni 5/31/11 good teacher? #edchat 12:25 PM RT @carneysandoe: But what makes a

summersk0 5/31/11 12:25 PM @DrTimony For example, does this apply to both 8th grade teacher AND 11th grade teacher? #edchat luc_germain 5/31/11 12:25 PM #edchat young teacher I see are often not deeply involved enough - they should be trained for that (but how ?) QZLPatriotHawk 5/31/11 12:25 PM What I find that most new tchers r missing is classroom management skills that can only b taught through experience. #edchat laurakkess 5/31/11 12:25 PM RT @EDUTOPIA: New! Encouraging Your Students to Engage in Deeper Thinking http://bit.ly/kQTEiJ #edchat #k12 #ntchat stumpteacher 5/31/11 #edchat Qwizdom 5/31/11 obstacles? #edchat 12:25 PM 12:25 PM @DrTimony Can those be defined? What are your end-of-school year

after_school 5/31/11 12:25 PM How about if edtech grad students at teacher colleges help schools & afterschool programs integrate digital learning? #edchat iteach4change 5/31/11 12:25 PM Why not do it like docs? What do they call it? residencies, attendings, rotations, etc. as part of the tchr ed program? #edchat MZimmer557 5/31/11 12:25 PM @Sharvey85 Or focus should be grad courses. I had edu profs who had been out of the classroom for 15 years. no real world there #edchat rliberni 5/31/11 12:25 PM RT @tomwhitby: Teacher prep needs a better balance of Content in the subject area and methods and Pedagogy. Too much emphasis on content now. #Edchat blairteach 5/31/11 12:25 PM @tomwhitby It's that "swinging pendulum" thing. Thanks to "highly qualified" requirements, (sadly) content is king right now. #edchat rliberni 5/31/11 12:25 PM RT @npf007: RT @CTuckerEnglish: Right! If we want to steer new teachers away from lecture based approach, DON'T make them sit in lectures #edchat drtimony 5/31/11 12:25 PM A 'master craftsman' of a teacher has traits. They show the second they enter the room. #edchat mbfxc 5/31/11 12:25 PM mean I'm out of a job? :( #edchat @MZimmer557 I totally agree, but does this

rliberni 5/31/11 12:25 PM RT @inquirebook: RT @cybraryman1: How can relationships between teacher colleges & school systems be formed to communicate & share with one another #edchat stefras 5/31/11 12:26 PM @Digin4ed A cycle through practical and theory makes sense. Particularly if each is responsive to circumstance and student teacher. #edchat maryannesacco 5/31/11 12:26 PM RT @tomwhitby: Teacher prep needs a better balance of Content in the subject area and methods and Pedagogy. Too much emphasis on content now. #Edchat ShellTerrell 5/31/11 12:26 PM Learned about theories fr Vygotsky, Friere, etc. & never saw it in action or modeled by my profs even at Masters level #Edchat Sharvey85 5/31/11 12:26 PM @MZimmer557 I agree, they have no idea what it is like to be in the classroom with all the changes #edchat snakel7 5/31/11 12:26 PM RT @npf007: RT @CTuckerEnglish: Right! If we want to steer new teachers away from lecture based approach, DON'T make them sit in lectures #edchat malcolmbellamy 5/31/11 12:26 PM I was watching a John Wooden talk this morning .. the ability to get your charges to achieve to their potential is key #edchat cybraryman1 5/31/11 12:26 PM have hands-on tech training #edchat @CTuckerEnglish Yes, they should Theory is good but it isn't going

QZLPatriotHawk 5/31/11 12:26 PM to get them through the 1st yr. #edchat

MZimmer557 5/31/11 12:26 PM @mbfxc not necessarily...focus should be on grad courses. Or least teach the advanced edu courses. Others teach intro? #edchat mbfxc 5/31/11 12:26 PM @stumpteacher @cybraryman1 <3ed when I was an adjunct and head of a ms at the same time b/c every class I had real stories to share #edchat JulieMushing 5/31/11 12:26 PM 7 obvious things in education that are ignored - http://wapo.st/mQ5k7Y #edchat #edreform #SOS inquirebook 5/31/11 12:26 PM RT @knolinfos @ktenkely: Teacher prep programs should include the art of storytelling-my best teachers were master storytellers. #edchat

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today's #edchat feels like a lot of

mr_casal 5/31/11 12:26 PM Student teaching would be effective if student teachers were prepared for the reality of teaching, not just the theoretical #edchat SadlierSchool 5/31/11 12:26 PM Summer Professional Development Blog Series via @edutopia http://bit.ly/k8Xmi3 #edchat #teacher #classroom NewsHour 5/31/11 12:26 PM RT @NewsHourExtra: New videos from student reporting labs on the #dropout rate: http://bit.ly/98rHgO #edchat rliberni 5/31/11 12:27 PM RT @luc_germain: #edchat young teacher I see are often not deeply involved enough - they should be trained for that (but how ?) drtimony 5/31/11 12:27 PM @summersk0 yes, definitely, and the necessary components of the craft change especially across dev levels. #edchat cpoole27 5/31/11 12:27 PM @pamwesely they r qualified but can be out of touch if they have been out of clssrm for yrs to be effective they must remain current #edchat carneysandoe 5/31/11 12:27 PM RT @lhoog: Knowing students as ind. & bringing real world in2 the classrm. We need 2 connect stud. w/others arnd the globe. #edchat :-) cybraryman1 5/31/11 12:27 PM RT @Whtevri4c: Faculty should go back to the classroom for a semester every three years to stay current. #edchat bri12580 5/31/11 12:27 PM @cybraryman1 I have introduced my methods students to #edchat. Reaction? 'Wow, twitter isn't just for celebrity crap?' Digin4ed 5/31/11 12:27 PM Agreed -> RT @tomwhitby: College classes can make good teachers. Great teachers are made from their own classes. #Edchat blairteach 5/31/11 12:27 PM If I were prioritizing: importance of relationships w/stds (& how they affect discipline & effort) would be near top. #edchat Whtevri4c 5/31/11 12:27 PM Faculty should go back to the classroom for a semester every three years to stay current. #edchat JonHalvorsen 5/31/11 12:27 PM RT @eSchoolNews: Who needs a bulky textbook? http://ow.ly/56I5s #textbook #edchat #teachers

epaopao 5/31/11 12:27 PM student tchrs shld also learn to use tech effectively as a supplement of the curriculum, some use 2 much that it washes out content #edchat kataaron 5/31/11 12:27 PM By youth of @followPPH! RT @NewsHourExtra: New videos from student reporting labs on the #dropout rate: http://bit.ly/98rHgO #edchat web20education 5/31/11 12:27 PM It is also important to learn our students how to collaborate eSafety with students worldwide in a online and open world using #sm #edchat jyasinchuk 5/31/11 12:27 PM The fight for the brightest? Top tech mogul pays students NOT to go the college: http://bit.ly/ku6neO #bcedtech #edchat #techchat #bced CTuckerEnglish 5/31/11 12:27 PM I didn't engage w/tech much in college beyond typing...it was like a time warp. Only typed papers & I grad in 2000 RT @edublogs: #edchat rliberni 5/31/11 12:27 PM RT @cybraryman1: @pamwesely There are excellent college profs. @tomwhitby is a shining example #edchat tomwhitby 5/31/11 12:27 PM College classes can make good teachers. Great teachers are made from their own classes. #Edchat Chrissy_Kelly 5/31/11 12:27 PM RT @ShellTerrell: Learned about theories fr Vygotsky, Friere, etc. & never saw it in action or modeled by my profs even at Masters level #Edchat mbfxc 5/31/11 12:27 PM @MZimmer557 What I'd really like is to coteach with a teacher in their school system! that would be the best of the best! #edchat rliberni 5/31/11 12:27 PM RT @mr_casal: Want to improve teacher ed programs? Hire competent classroom teachers as profs. Most of my profs had never taught a class #edchat cybraryman1 5/31/11 hear. #edchat 12:27 PM @mbfxc That is what they need to

rliberni 5/31/11 12:27 PM @DrTimony there is great value in mixing 'pure educationists' with those who have knowledge from other walks of life I think #edchat USCTeacher 5/31/11 12:27 PM @angwe Love that your Guiding Tchr was so helpful! Did you find their experience to be the biggest asset? or something else? #edchat

carneysandoe 5/31/11 12:27 PM @delta_dc Agree,even at grad level. Should colleges teach general for more coverage or determine what specifics are needed? #edchat blairteach 5/31/11 12:28 PM RT @ShellTerrell: How about a problem-solving course for edus entirely dedicated to finding collaborative solutions plaguing schs? #edchat megnorris 5/31/11 12:28 PM RT @ShellTerrell: Would have really enjoyed a course in grant writing & finding funding to obtain resources for students #Edchat stefras 5/31/11 12:28 PM Nice. Model our job. RT @davidwees: If our classrooms are supposed to be student centred, so too should our teacher colleges. #edchat FarmGirl44615 moment! 5/31/11 12:28 PM Hi! Just stopping in for a

zecool 5/31/11 12:28 PM RT @ShellTerrell: Learned about theories fr Vygotsky, Friere etc. & never saw it in action or modeled by profs even at Masters level #Edchat cybraryman1 5/31/11 12:28 PM @bri12580 Introduce to the great subject area chats in the area they are interested in. Wonderful sharing & connecting #edchat wjputt 5/31/11 12:28 PM #edchat we debated something similar in #addcym last week. IMHO teachers need real grounding in understanding child & adolescent cognition. delta_dc 5/31/11 12:28 PM @johnpassantino Cambourne says that engagement requires potential (I can), purpose (I want to), & protection (I feel safe trying) #edchat ShellTerrell 5/31/11 12:28 PM Would have really enjoyed a course in grant writing & finding funding to obtain resources for students #Edchat Tina_Barr 5/31/11 12:28 PM RT @ShellTerrell: How abt a problemsolving course 4 educators dedicated 2 finding collaborative solutions plaguing schools? #edchat inquirebook 5/31/11 12:28 PM Interesting. RT @sharvey85: @MZimmer557 I always thought edu profs should go back to the classroom for two years every five years #edchat kegluskin 5/31/11 12:28 PM @Whtevri4c or schools should host workshops to keep faculty up to date on new technology and ideas! #edchat

drtimony 5/31/11 12:28 PM @stumpteacher Yes, and I think that there are some common traits that must be defined. #edchat CTuckerEnglish 5/31/11 12:28 PM Agreed, but requires teachers who are confident as online "facilitators" who can teach this online collab RT @web20education: #sm #edchat cpoole27 5/31/11 12:28 PM RT @cybraryman1: No one prepared me for what I faced when I first starting teaching. Best prep came from my school PLN & observing other teachers #edchat rliberni 5/31/11 12:28 PM RT @cybraryman1: No one prepared me for what I faced when I first starting teaching. Best prep came from my school PLN & observing other teachers #edchat pamwesely 5/31/11 12:28 PM Whose job will I be taking when I return back to the HS classroom for 2 years every 5 years? Yours? #edchat cybraryman1 5/31/11 12:28 PM RT @bri12580: @cybraryman1 I have introduced my methods students to #edchat. Reaction? 'Wow, twitter isn't just for celebrity crap?' LHoog 5/31/11 12:28 PM Tchrs should also be given time to study edu. research to inform personal practice. #edchat ShellTerrell 5/31/11 12:28 PM How about a problem-solving course for educators entirely dedicated to finding collaborative solutions plaguing schools? #edchat stefras 5/31/11 12:28 PM @maryannesacco Alberta does this. re placing students with experienced and willing teachers. Some great. Some nightmare. #edchat JonHalvorsen 5/31/11 12:28 PM RT @eSchoolNews: Did you miss it? Five ways readers are using iPads in the classroom http://ow.ly/56Ji8 #ipad #elearning #edtech #edchat stefras 5/31/11 12:29 PM @davidwees Do the people with the best grades become the best teachers? No. I think grades and ability are inversely related. #edchat ronnieburt 5/31/11 12:29 PM @CTuckerEnglish I made embarrassing tweet deck mistake (edublogs)! Agree with more hands on needed - I was spoiled in my programs :) #edchat johnpassantino 5/31/11 12:29 PM Focus on building capacity for every kid. All will not acquire content as we'd like; all will learn...something. #edchat

maryannesacco 5/31/11 12:29 PM @QZLPatriotHawk Yes, classroom management techniques are learned thru exp/also exp setting up systems and routines for consistency #edchat MmeVachon 5/31/11 12:29 PM @pamwesely thankfully I am not one of those because I have had awesome profs with a lot of classroom experience who are qualified. #Edchat ericjuli5/31/11 12:29 PM New t's in urban settings have so much to unlearn-but the yr is fast, s's needs are vast-we lose too many new t's w/gr8 potential #edchat rliberni 5/31/11 12:29 PM RT @inquirebook: RT @knolinfos @ktenkely: Teacher prep programs should include the art of storytelling-my best teachers were master storytellers. #edchat ShellTerrell 5/31/11 12:29 PM @davidwees I'm thinking you should've moderated this discussion! You're full of gr8 ideas #edchat blairteach 5/31/11 12:29 PM @ShellTerrell EXCELLENT idea, Shelly! Would also work as a sch PD exploration on site-specific issues. #edchat MZimmer557 5/31/11 12:29 PM RT @tomwhitby: Educational Law should be part of teacher training. #Edchat tomwhitby 5/31/11 teacher training. #Edchat 12:29 PM Educational Law should be part of

QZLPatriotHawk 5/31/11 12:29 PM Should b taught more abt diversity (Social academic) & poverty. Big shock 2 many newbies. #edchat CTuckerEnglish 5/31/11 12:29 PM Who is teaching teachers in classroom now how to navigate student work online? Most teachers are scared of taking work online #edchat plnaugle 5/31/11 12:29 PM In grad school now and know more through my own PD than most pro abt tech in my classroom. Need to to own PD on tech integration. #edchat inquirebook 5/31/11 12:29 PM RT @qzlpatriothawk: Theory is good but it isn't going to get them through the 1st yr. #edchat That's the toughest year. ShellTerrell 5/31/11 12:29 PM RT @davidwees: Idea: 1 year of preparation followed by 1 year of teaching, followed by a summer (at least) back in teacher college. #edchat mbfxc 5/31/11 12:29 PM RT @Whtevri4c: Faculty should go back to the classroom for a semester every three years to stay current. #edchat

rliberni 5/31/11 12:29 PM @cybraryman1 I agree we get a lot from sharing experience, successes and failures too - like here! #edchat davidwees 5/31/11 12:29 PM Idea: 1 year of preparation followed by 1 year of teaching, followed by a summer (at least) back in teacher college. #edchat ShellTerrell 5/31/11 12:30 PM #Edchat @blairteach If only #edchat folks ran teacher education programs?! Possibilities, possibilities... teach2connect 5/31/11 12:30 PM RT @LHoog: Tchrs should also be given time to study edu. research to inform personal practice. #edchat malcolmbellamy essential #edchat 5/31/11 12:30 PM interpersonal skills are

carneysandoe 5/31/11 12:30 PM The mechanics of teaching can be overlooked in education schools. #edchat juandoming 5/31/11 12:30 PM RT @cybraryman1: @MZimmer557 Wrightslaw is very important: http://tinyurl.com/4xwkqws #edchat Kiwi_Commons 5/31/11 12:30 PM See what happens when students are allowed to embrace free range learning http://cot.ag/ktG3pK #edchat #edtech YearofScienceBC 5/31/11 12:30 PM Who has more than 50 reseach centres? #BC! >>You want to study #science here. http://ow.ly/54BdR #scichat #edchat #k12online #nafsa11 blairteach 5/31/11 12:30 PM @tomwhitby Whoo-hoo, Tom. That one belongs on a poster (or a pillow or sampler). #edchat plnaugle 5/31/11 12:30 PM New teachers need an onsite mentor for at least first year. Someone who integrates tech in their classroom would be great. #edchat inquirebook 5/31/11 12:30 PM Yep. RT @snakel7 @npf00:@CTuckerEnglish: To steer new teachers away from lecture based approach, DON'T make them sit in lectures #edchat teach2connect 5/31/11 12:30 PM RT @epaopao: student tchrs shld also learn to use tech effectively as a supplement of the curriculum, some use 2 much that it washes out content #edchat cybraryman1 5/31/11 12:30 PM RT @wjputt: #edchat IMHO teachers need real grounding in understanding child & adolescent cognition.

rliberni 5/31/11 12:30 PM RT @tomwhitby: College classes can make good teachers. Great teachers are made from their own classes. #Edchat johnpassantino 5/31/11 12:30 PM @stefras Grades tell a different story. Usually who understands and complies with the rules of the game. #edchat LiquidLearn 5/31/11 12:30 PM #elearnchat guest David Kelly aka @lnddave recapping #ASTD2011 Today @ 10am PT www.justin.tv/relatecorp #lrnchat #astd #edchat #elearning rliberni 5/31/11 12:30 PM RT @USCTeacher: @angwe Love that your Guiding Tchr was so helpful! Did you find their experience to be the biggest asset? or something else? #edchat MisterEason 5/31/11 12:30 PM RT @ShellTerrell: Would love to see college classes model good instructional practices vs mostly lecturing #Edchat teach2connect 5/31/11 12:30 PM @ShellTerrell agreed. I have rarely seen the higher ed profs model proper instructional strategy. #edchat npf007 5/31/11 12:30 PM If you're a student teacher, you should be exposed to PLNs (like #edchat) to get to know more strategies in teaching. alleyoop 5/31/11 12:30 PM It's never too late to pick up a #newspaper and start learning about #currentevents! http://allyp.co/56GOn #edchat (via @nytimes) Easter_Robin 5/31/11 12:30 PM Empowering teachers and learners, not walls. Mobile Interactive Whiteboard product review http://bit.ly/lIV7DL #edtech #edchat FarmGirl44615 5/31/11 12:31 PM @web20education Our problem is, the county is so afraid of #technology, that the students are not permitted to use their own. #edchat ktenkely 5/31/11 12:31 PM would have been fantastic! #edchat @ShellTerrell Grant writing course

teach2connect 5/31/11 12:31 PM RT @stefras: Nice. Model our job. RT @davidwees: If our classrooms are supposed to be student centred, so too should our teacher colleges. #edchat snakel7 5/31/11 12:31 PM Every student teacher I have come across this year is not ready to use tech effectively in the classroom. Afraid to be different #edchat MZimmer557 5/31/11 12:31 PM Edu prep needs to also look at how in this day and age, and unfortunately, teaching is more than just "teaching" and how to cope #edchat

tomwhitby 5/31/11 12:31 PM #Edchat Tip: If you find interesting people in #Edchat, follow them on TWITTER. It will expand & Enhance your Personal Learning Network Digin4ed 5/31/11 12:31 PM @stefras Perhaps then you vary the cycle segments (how much teaching to learning) through teaching career. #edchat. stefras 5/31/11 #edchat 12:31 PM @davidwees I would if I could do it online.

maryannesacco 5/31/11 12:31 PM @tomwhitby Very much agree. And great teachers are made from the mentors they find in their first years in the classroom #edchat cybraryman1 5/31/11 12:31 PM RT @MisterEason: More time and support in the classroom. Heard about a school that pays Ss to work on Sat so tchrs can practice. #Edchat mbfxc 5/31/11 12:31 PM RT @davidwees: Idea: 1 year of preparation followed by 1 year of teaching, followed by a summer (at least) back in teacher college. #edchat megbertapelle 5/31/11 12:31 PM RT @ShellTerrell: Would have really enjoyed a course in grant writing & finding funding to obtain resources for students #Edchat MisterEason 5/31/11 12:31 PM More time and support in the classroom. Heard about a school that pays Ss to work on Sat so tchrs can practice. #Edchat megbertapelle 5/31/11 12:31 PM RT @ShellTerrell: How about a problem-solving course for educators entirely dedicated to finding collaborative solutions plaguing schools? #edchat rliberni 5/31/11 12:31 PM RT @johnpassantino: Focus on building capacity for every kid. All will not acquire content as we'd like; all will learn...something. #edchat Elle_Gifted 5/31/11 12:31 PM RT @cybraryman1: @stumpteacher Get actual practicing teachers in college education programs or at least have them as guests #edchat ShellTerrell 5/31/11 12:31 PM RT @tomwhitby: College classes can make good teachers. Great teachers are made from their own classes. #Edchat

jmfbrooks 5/31/11 12:31 PM By youth of @followPPH! RT @NewsHourExtra: New videos from student reporting labs on the #dropout rate: http://bit.ly/98rHgO #edchat CTuckerEnglish 5/31/11 12:31 PM Me too! Some trial & error in college setting would have helped. RT @ronnieburt: #edchat kegluskin 5/31/11 12:31 PM RT @plnaugle: New teachers need onsite mentor for at least 1st year. Someone who integrates tech in their classroom would be great. #edchat johnpassantino 5/31/11 12:31 PM interpersonal skills are essential #edchat RT @malcolmbellamy:

urban_teacher 5/31/11 12:31 PM Saw a sign in the library that said "Today a reader, tomorrow a leader" #edchat USCTeacher 5/31/11 12:31 PM Good point!RT @npf007: If you're a student teacher, you should be exposed to PLNs (like #edchat) to get to know more strategies in teaching. mrwejr 5/31/11 12:31 PM @davidwees I have offered to teach some classes at UFV (teacher ed) for next year on assessment, social media, motivation #edchat ktenkely 5/31/11 12:31 PM @blairteach Yes! I wish for the interrelationship between topics too. So needed in higher ed and lower ed as well! #edchat juandoming 5/31/11 12:31 PM RT @jdthomas7: My Twitter Anniversary Gift to my PLN Tech the Plunge - http://t.co/B4aC72G #edtech #edchat drtimony 5/31/11 12:31 PM @davepugh 1: We need to tease those out 2: Yes. 3: We aren't looking b/c we don't know what we're looking for. #edchat stefras 5/31/11 12:31 PM Cultural. RT @JohnPassantino: Grades tell a different story. Usually who understands and complies with the rules of the game. #edchat rliberni 5/31/11 12:32 PM RT @mbfxc: I would welcome anyone to Skype in with my graduate classes for the real teaching perspective! #edchat Berylaube 5/31/11 12:32 PM RT @rscapin: Practical Guidelines for Using Technology Tools in Classroom Teaching http://bit.ly/j5vCHx (via @missnoor28) #edtech #edchat

epaopao 5/31/11 effective #edchat

12:32 PM

mentors are gr8, only if they are

megbertapelle 5/31/11 12:32 PM RT @kegluskin: It's also important to give students time 2 talk with each other & share their experienceslearn from others going thu same program! #edchat QZLPatriotHawk 5/31/11 12:32 PM RT @tomwhitby: Educational Law should be part of teacher training. #Edchat kegluskin 5/31/11 12:32 PM @Whtevri4c definitely-one of the battles between new, young teachers and veterans! #edchat JBEducation 5/31/11 12:32 PM RT @EDUTOPIA: New! Encouraging Your Students to Engage in Deeper Thinking http://bit.ly/kQTEiJ #edchat #k12 #ntchat mbfxc 5/31/11 12:32 PM I would welcome anyone to Skype in with my graduate classes for the real teaching perspective! #edchat carneysandoe 5/31/11 12:32 PM RT @CTuckerEnglish: I luv that idea of long-term mentor. Better than admin doing once a yr observations RT @kegluskin: RT @plnaugle: #edchat delta_dc 5/31/11 12:32 PM @CarneySandoe I would say use theory as curriculum but model teaching process in instruction. We focus on teaching-learning cycle. #edchat BethCagnol 5/31/11 12:32 PM RT @ShellTerrell: Teacher Ed programs should have a course designed on effective communication w/ parents, admin, students! Not enough comm in edu #edchat QZLPatriotHawk 5/31/11 12:32 PM Big factor 4 success for all tchers esp new 1s is how 2 effectively communicate 2 adults (parent, peers, adm) #edchat younglisa811 5/31/11 12:32 PM RT @MisterEason: More time and support in the classroom. Heard about a school that pays Ss to work on Sat so tchrs can practice. #Edchat davidwees 5/31/11 12:32 PM So at the very least, people teaching in a teachers college should have experience teaching. #edchat megbertapelle 5/31/11 12:32 PM RT @ShellTerrell: RT @chrisemdin: Communication with parents/guardians & admin is a major part of the class I teach to future teachers #edchat

Teachhub 5/31/11 12:32 PM Share what made your Summer reading list on our virtual bulletin board! http://bit.ly/i8Fl1a #teachertuesday #edchat USCTeacher 5/31/11 12:32 PM @MrsCindyTorres Very true! Hopefully a guiding teaching would want to help and collaborate with their student #edchat npf007 5/31/11 12:32 PM Well... RT @ShellTerrell: #Edchat @blairteach If only #edchat folks ran teacher education programs?! Possibilities, possibilities... stefras 5/31/11 12:32 PM @davidwees That last comment re volunteer to teach a workshop on social media at your local teacher's college #edchat CTuckerEnglish 5/31/11 12:32 PM I love that idea of long-term mentor. Better than admin doing once a yr observations RT @kegluskin: RT @plnaugle: #edchat rliberni 5/31/11 12:32 PM RT @davidwees: One of my MOST important courses (teaching learners with additional needs) was taught by a researcher w/ NO teaching experience. #edchat ShellTerrell 5/31/11 12:32 PM Me too! RT @librarykittie: I'd have found that course quite useful as I spent $$$ funding students' needs my1st few yrs of teaching #edchat cybraryman1 5/31/11 12:32 PM #edchat Topic: What additions or changes can college make to better prepare teacher candidates? plnaugle 5/31/11 12:32 PM Mentor a new teacher and give them a pre populated Twitter acct so they have an online PLN to get started. #edchat davidwees 5/31/11 12:32 PM One of my MOST important courses (teaching learners with additional needs) was taught by a researcher w/ NO teaching experience. #edchat rliberni 5/31/11 12:32 PM RT @tomwhitby: #Edchat Tip: If you find interesting people in #Edchat, follow them on TWITTER. It will expand & Enhance your Personal Learning Network Whtevri4c 5/31/11 12:32 PM @kegluskin probably a much more realistic solution! Some just seem out of touch with what is happening in schools. #edchat MZimmer557 5/31/11 12:32 PM RT @tomwhitby: #Edchat Tip: If you find interesting people in #Edchat, follow them on TWITTER. It will expand & Enhance your Personal Learning Network

carneysandoe 5/31/11 12:33 PM @delta_dc Including a mentor as well is important during student teaching! #edchat MMeLearn 5/31/11 12:33 PM RT @eLearningGuild: RT @missnoor28: 162 Tips and Tricks for Working with #eLearning Tools http://bit.ly/jH5IXU #edtech #edchat mrwejr 5/31/11 12:33 PM @davidwees the porfs said they would love it at UFV and will let me know after they meet. #fingerscrossed #edchat LeighAnnCaldwel 5/31/11 12:33 PM Great youth reports @followpph RT @NewsHourExtra: New videos from student reporting labs on the #dropout rate: http://bit.ly/98rHgO #edchat teach2connect 5/31/11 12:33 PM RT @johnpassantino: @stefras Grades tell a different story. Usually who understands and complies with the rules of the game. #edchat RushaSams 5/31/11 12:33 PM RT @inquirebook: Interesting. RT @sharvey85: @MZimmer557 I always thought edu profs should go back to the classroom for two years every five years #edchat kevcreutz 5/31/11 12:33 PM Bring your own device catching on in schools: http://bit.ly/my8Z5a #edtech #edchat kileigh7 #edchat 5/31/11 12:33 PM @mbfxc when? I'd love, love, love to!

domi75P 5/31/11 12:33 PM RT @rliberni: RT @tomwhitby: College classes can make good teachers. Great teachers are made from their own classes. #Edchat #edchat rliberni 5/31/11 12:33 PM RT @kegluskin: @CTuckerEnglish @plnaugle as a new teacher, I will definitely be relying on a mentor to help me adjust to the new environment #edchat angwe 5/31/11 12:33 PM @USCTeacher Recent memory of stu tchng made his comments more focused & particular to situation = easier to engage reflective cycle #edchat kegluskin 5/31/11 12:33 PM @CTuckerEnglish @plnaugle as a new teacher, I will definitely be relying on a mentor to help me adjust to the new environment #edchat rliberni 5/31/11 12:33 PM RT @cybraryman1: @QZLPatriotHawk My Communicating with Children page: http://tinyurl.com/4s87ukb #edchat

stefras 5/31/11 12:33 PM from college #edchat

@davidwees Same here as well as UofA. news

ShellTerrell 5/31/11 12:33 PM RT @c_marsh35: I would like to see all college level ed courses taught using learning stategies. Professors should model what good teachers do #edchat helenhamill 5/31/11 12:33 PM RT @teachersnet: It can't be repeated too often: pre-teaching programs must include more classroom management training #edchat cybraryman1 5/31/11 12:33 PM @QZLPatriotHawk My Communicating with Children page: http://tinyurl.com/4s87ukb #edchat carneysandoe 5/31/11 12:33 PM RT @delta_dc: I wld say use theory as curriculum but model teaching process in instruction. We focus on teachinglearning cycle. #edchat stumpteacher 5/31/11 12:33 PM @DrTimony Agreed, be curious to see what would be on that list and how to "teach" them. Can they be taught? Any inherent traits? #edchat c_marsh35 5/31/11 12:33 PM I would like to see all college level ed courses taught using learning stategies. Professors should model what good teachers do #edchat teach2connect 5/31/11 12:33 PM @tomwhitby EdLaw was part of my masters prog but it focused on history rather than application #edchat davidwees 5/31/11 12:33 PM @MrWejr I offered at UBC, but was rebuffed. "Our student teachers are too busy to learn about that." #edchat MZimmer557 5/31/11 12:33 PM I have been pushing the local community college for an educational tech course, but they don't want to devote the funds... #edchat serendipityds 5/31/11 12:33 PM Student teaching should happen before the jr year when in college for education. It should happen sooner and continue on. #edchat ShellTerrell 5/31/11 12:34 PM RT @QZLPatriotHawk: My assumption when hiring is they know their content, I'm more worried abt the other skills they bring 2 the table. #edchat Tina_Barr 5/31/11 12:34 PM key, what about mentoring? #edchat @USCTeacher Theory and practice is

cybraryman1 5/31/11 12:34 PM RT @delta_dc: We have our student teachers team teach to break cycle of isolation and as added support. #GVSU #edchat ShellTerrell 5/31/11 12:34 PM Agree! RT @Akevy613: I think edu. currently in schools should help form the syl. and curriculum for teacher ed programs #edchat stefras 5/31/11 12:34 PM @Mr_Casal At UofA, teachers or retired teachers asked to teach student teachers. #edchat rliberni 5/31/11 12:34 PM RT @Akevy613: @ShellTerrell @blairteach I think edu. currently in schools should help form the syl. and curriculum for teacher ed programs #edchat MZimmer557 5/31/11 12:34 PM .....That was not beneficial at all...especially since the class was about 12 students #edchat wjputt 5/31/11 12:34 PM RT @ShellTerrell: #Edchat @blairteach If only #edchat folks ran teacher education programs?! Possibilities, possibilities... QZLPatriotHawk 5/31/11 12:34 PM My assumption when hiring is they know their content, I'm more worried abt the other skills they bring 2 the table. #edchat debbyk 5/31/11 12:34 PM @davidwees I agree. sadly, seems like most universities look more at content experts than teaching experience :/ #edchat delta_dc 5/31/11 12:34 PM We have our student teachers team teach to break cycle of isolation and as added support. #GVSU #edchat ShellTerrell 5/31/11 again LOL #Edchat 12:34 PM @peoplegogy Looks like we disagree

Akevy613 5/31/11 12:34 PM @ShellTerrell @blairteach I think edu. currently in schools should help form the syl. and curriculum for teacher ed programs #edchat MZimmer557 5/31/11 12:34 PM I remember in my teacher ed program I had to "teach a lesson" to fellow classmates as they "role played" a particular behavior #edchat ..... CTuckerEnglish 5/31/11 12:34 PM Professors should absolutely model the teaching methodology they want future teachers to use RT @stumpteacher: @DrTimony #edchat davidwees 5/31/11 12:34 PM @MrWejr Nice! Even an hour introduction would be valuable. #edchat

cybraryman1 5/31/11 12:34 PM RT @pamwesely: Iowa law: every person responsible for teaching K-12 teacher ed students has to do 60 hrs of teaching every 5 years. #edchat mbfxc 5/31/11 12:34 PM The more partnerships we create between schools and colleges the better! #edchat pamwesely 5/31/11 12:34 PM Iowa law: every person responsible for teaching K-12 teacher ed students has to do 60 hrs of teaching every 5 years. #edchat USCTeacher 5/31/11 12:35 PM @Tina_Barr Hopefully mentoring is part of the "practice" aspect of the blend of theory and practice #Edchat Giftedkidsie 5/31/11 12:35 PM RT @ShellTerrell: Fantastic List of 2011 #education conferences worldwide http://bit.ly/mdY1Ha by @seburnt #eltchat #edchat #edchatie #ukedchat #elearning stefras 5/31/11 12:35 PM @pamwesely I think they are teaching from a this is what works POV rather than this is how to teach POV. #edchat rliberni 5/31/11 12:35 PM RT @cybraryman1: How do we get the changes mentioned here to be accomplished in teacher ed programs? #edchat SUHSD_tech 5/31/11 12:35 PM RT @markbrumley: Needs for Education: Multi User iPads #edtech #edchat http://j.mp/jR5QUF -- This is why #chromebooks may well win. maleamy 5/31/11 12:35 PM RT @markbrumley: Needs for Education: Multi User iPads #edtech #edchat http://j.mp/jR5QUF -- This is why #chromebooks may well win. teach2connect 5/31/11 12:35 PM @snakel7 Do you think they aren't prepared b/c their teach prep programs teach them like its 1984? #edchat juandoming 5/31/11 12:35 PM Google Traductor | @scoopit http://bit.ly/m94iYT #elearning #web20 #twitter #socialmedia #education #edtech #edchat #puntogov #odite maryannesacco 5/31/11 12:35 PM @stefras The "nightmare" ones should be avoided in the future. New teachers are good too, but might have too much on their plate #edchat web20education 5/31/11 12:35 PM @rliberni A good teacher is a teacher who teach because he love students not for money and want to bring #edreform using #edtech20 #edchat

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cybraryman1 5/31/11 12:35 PM How do we get the changes mentioned here to be accomplished in teacher ed programs? #edchat mbfxc 5/31/11 12:35 PM @kileigh7 @plnaugle Fabulous! We're off 4 the summer, but will be teaching 2 grad classes & a 1st yr seminar 2 freshmen in the fall #edchat NathansVoice 5/31/11 12:35 PM RT @ParentingSPD: From play dates to social stories, check out 9 Ways to Boost Your Childs Social Skills http://wp.me/p1l3K9-vg #autism #SPDBN #edchat rliberni 5/31/11 12:35 PM RT @Tina_Barr: @USCTeacher Theory and practice is key, what about mentoring? #edchat I think mentoring is essential txlibraryguy 5/31/11 12:35 PM Tech skills, theory and practice are great, but young teachers need confidence and coping skills or they won't stay in profession. #edchat ShellTerrell 5/31/11 12:35 PM RT @CTuckerEnglish: Ironically, it's harder to design opportunities for students to discover knowledge than it is to tell a lecture hall what u know. #edchat MZimmer557 5/31/11 12:35 PM @ShellTerrell @Akevy613 With common core standards...soon all syllabus will be the same...unfortunately... #edchat CTuckerEnglish 5/31/11 12:35 PM Ironically, it's harder to design opportunities for students to discover knowledge than it is to tell a lecture hall what u know. #edchat c_marsh35 5/31/11 12:35 PM Davidwees, I agree. If you haven't actually taught in the classroom, how can you help others become classroom teachers? #edchat StewboCup 5/31/11 12:35 PM @ktenkely: I think every teacher prep program should include the art of storytelling-my best teachers were master story tellers. #edchat plnaugle 5/31/11 12:35 PM Teacher trainer at my school. Many are so unwill to change and use any tech other then presentation on IWB. #edchat brainflips 5/31/11 12:35 PM Bonjour. Parlez-vous le franais? Non? #brainflips does. Try our French language decks - http://ow.ly/56ce8 #edchat #education

cpoole27 5/31/11 12:35 PM RT @tomwhitby: #Edchat Tip: If you find interesting people in #Edchat, follow them on TWITTER. It will expand & Enhance your Personal Learning Network teadira 5/31/11 12:35 PM RT @ozge: RT @missnoor28

AuntyTech 5/31/11 12:35 PM RT @c_marsh35: I would like all college level ed courses taught using learning stategies. Profes should model what good teachers do #edchat rliberni 5/31/11 12:35 PM RT @QZLPatriotHawk: My assumption when hiring is they know their content, I'm more worried abt the other skills they bring 2 the table. #edchat USCTeacher 5/31/11 12:35 PM Agree! Networks are key! RT @mbfxc: The more partnerships we create between schools and colleges the better! #edchat FarmGirl44615 5/31/11 12:35 PM @Elle_Gifted @cybraryman1 @stumpteacher I agree! I would have loved to hear from a practicing teacher, getting their perspective! #edchat ShellTerrell 5/31/11 12:35 PM RT @delta_dc: We have our student teachers team teach to break cycle of isolation and as added support. #GVSU #edchat epaopao 5/31/11 12:36 PM We implement http://bit.ly/luSoER and connected w/college for their education courses. Live stream of our tchrs in action #edchat carneysandoe 5/31/11 12:36 PM could very effective #edchat @delta_dc That seems as though it

teach2connect 5/31/11 12:36 PM RT @delta_dc: @CarneySandoe I would say use theory as curriculum but model teaching process in instruction. We focus on teaching-learning cycle. #edchat stefras 5/31/11 point. #edchat 12:36 PM @melissaenderle @davidwees That was my

KatieMaier 5/31/11 12:36 PM So true!RT @tomwhitby College classes can make good teachers. Great teachers are made from their own classes. #Edchat wjputt 5/31/11 12:36 PM #edchat all teacher courses should be two years long at least. Huge emphasis on the cognition bit then. #edchat & #ukedchat ppl as mentors!

cybraryman1 5/31/11 12:36 PM RT @MisterEason: Why aren't teachers taught how to establish relationships with students? Similar to psychologists. #edchat carneysandoe 5/31/11 12:36 PM What about reevaluating the requirements of teachers of teachers? What profile should they fit? #edchat MisterEason 5/31/11 12:36 PM Why aren't teachers taught how to establish relationships with students? Similar to psychologists. #edchat johnpassantino 5/31/11 12:36 PM @FarmGirl44615 @web20education This must change. We will not be viable if we fear tech. #edchat girlgeeks 5/31/11 12:36 PM RT @ShellTerrell: Fantastic List of 2011 #education conferences worldwide http://bit.ly/mdY1Ha by @seburnt #eltchat #edchat #edchatie #ukedchat #elearning librarykittie 5/31/11 12:36 PM I went to college in late 80's - all I rembr was whole lang and tchg from textbks. I became a subversive teacher my very 1st year! #edchat Write_To_Learn 5/31/11 12:36 PM 1. Text Types and Purposes, including argument writing, explanatory texts, and narratives! #writetolearn #edtech #edchat CTuckerEnglish 5/31/11 @plnaugle #edchat 12:36 PM That's great! RT @kegluskin:

delta_dc 5/31/11 12:36 PM @CarneySandoe We also use an instructional coaching model (instead of an evaluation model) in our observations. #edchat symphily 5/31/11 12:37 PM RT @darcymullin: A HS example of Rethinking awards ceremonies. RT @MrWejr http://bit.ly/iVnDXO #cpchat #bced #edchat virtual_teach 5/31/11 12:37 PM What's today's topic? #Edchat

rliberni 5/31/11 12:37 PM RT @unseenflirt: @wjputt A lot of the quality of your training depends on where you end up... #edchat Elle_Gifted 5/31/11 12:37 PM RT @cybraryman1: No one prepared me for what I faced when I first starting teaching. Best prep came from my school PLN & observing other teachers #edchat MisterEason 5/31/11 12:37 PM Too much emphasis on content areas and not enough emphasis on pedagogy. #edchat

megbertapelle 5/31/11 12:37 PM RT @davidwees: Teacher education systems should spend time focusing on building people who expect to learn continuously, rather than sporadically. #edchat MisterD 5/31/11 12:37 PM I'm looking for recommendations for Portfolio software. Anyone have a favorite? rliberni 5/31/11 12:37 PM RT @cybraryman1: RT @wjputt: #edchat all teacher courses should be 2years long at least. Huge emphasis on cognition bit #edchat & #ukedchat ppl as mentors! unseenflirt 5/31/11 12:37 PM @wjputt A lot of the quality of your training depends on where you end up... #edchat ShellTerrell 5/31/11 12:37 PM @peoplegogy I do agree we need more diversity & recruitmt of candidates that r models for their stdt populations but I c as 1 prob #edchat c_marsh35 5/31/11 12:37 PM QZL, what type of skills r u looking for teachers to bring to the table besides content? #edchat CTuckerEnglish 5/31/11 12:37 PM Absolutely! RT @CarneySandoe: What about reevaluating the requirements of teachers of teachers? #edchat rliberni 5/31/11 12:37 PM @web20education true but so many teachers end up there for other reasons and then sit it out - don't you think? #edchat tkanold 5/31/11 12:37 PM D9 conference this week. All things digital and a windows tablet? http://bit.ly/mSmjMA could impact the future of textbooks #edchat cybraryman1 5/31/11 12:37 PM RT @wjputt: #edchat all teacher courses should be 2years long at least. Huge emphasis on cognition bit #edchat & #ukedchat ppl as mentors! stefras 5/31/11 12:37 PM RT @melissaenderle: I think it's more difficult for those whose learning comes easy to break things down for others to understand.#edchat MmeVachon 5/31/11 12:37 PM #edchat when in edu prog. so many classmates were not engaged and didn't seem interested though opportunity was present to be engaged, scary c_marsh35 5/31/11 12:38 PM MrEason, People shy away from relationship building in education cuz they fear law suits. #edchat

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CCedJWhite 5/31/11 12:38 PM RT @Digin4ed: Agreed -> RT @tomwhitby: College classes can make good teachers. Great teachers are made from their own classes. #Edchat stefras 5/31/11 12:38 PM @maryannesacco The "nightmare" ones are usually near retirement and focussed more on that than on kids. #edchat duckdeux 5/31/11 12:38 PM RT @unseenflirt: @wjputt A lot of the quality of your training depends on where you end up... #edchat mbfxc 5/31/11 12:38 PM @virtual_teach How do we prepare our teacher candidates better #edchat rliberni 5/31/11 12:38 PM RT @tomwhitby: Authentic learning for tchr prep comes at stdnt tchng. Perfection of the craft comes on the job with a lifelong learning perspective #Edchat rliberni 5/31/11 12:38 PM RT @malcolmbellamy: I wish that I had learnt coaching skills when I trained as a teacher #edchat unseenflirt 5/31/11 12:38 PM @wjputt Hence why GTPs and Teach First schemes are slightly suspect. Sink or Swim shouldn't really apply to teaching. #edchat tomwhitby 5/31/11 12:38 PM Authentic learning for tchr prep comes at stdnt tchng. Perfection of the craft comes on the job with a lifelong learning perspective #Edchat rliberni 5/31/11 12:38 PM @inquirebook Waht changes colleges could make to better prepare teacher candidates #edchat teach2connect 5/31/11 12:38 PM Tchr Prep programs need to prep tchrs for 21st C not 20th. But this must be embraced by higher ed admins. Embrace forward thinking. #edchat delta_dc 5/31/11 12:38 PM @npf007 @shellterrell @blairteach Many #edchat are involved with teacher preparation already. Be careful of painting e/ too broad a brush. malcolmbellamy 5/31/11 12:38 PM I wish that I had learnt coaching skills when I trained as a teacher #edchat MisterEason 5/31/11 12:38 PM RT @MmeVachon: #edchat also believe that the more hands on experiences available the better

RushaSams 5/31/11 12:38 PM RT @tomwhitby Univ of TN requires School Law -- or at least they used to! #edchat carneysandoe 5/31/11 12:38 PM @virtual_teach What additions or changes can colleges make to better prepare teacher candidates? #edchat Akevy613 5/31/11 12:38 PM @MZimmer557 @ShellTerrell also if we have more progr. edu programs but schools R more "old style or visa versa we still have a prob.#edchat plnaugle 5/31/11 12:38 PM @mbfxc I definitely want to invite your students into my class in the fall via Skype. Keep me mind. #edchat mbfxc 5/31/11 12:38 PM @cybraryman1 We start by collaborating & getting teachers into UG & G courses! I'd <3 2 include more global connections 4 my stdents #edchat MmeVachon 5/31/11 12:38 PM #edchat also believe that the more hands on experiences available the better inquirebook 5/31/11 12:38 PM I learned this pacing model: 10 minutes of instruction, 10 minutes of application, 10 minutes of discussion. #edchat serendipityds 5/31/11 12:39 PM Could teaching colleges have a consultant committee made up of current teachers (all grade levels) that help advise them on courses? #edchat ShellTerrell 5/31/11 12:39 PM RT @cybraryman1: It was helpful for college juniors to observe in our school to see if teaching was really for them. #edchat RushaSams 5/31/11 12:39 PM Univ of TN ed majors have to go 5 yrs 5th yr is internship. Lots of experience w/classrom lrning. #edchat cybraryman1 5/31/11 12:39 PM RT @LHoog: @CarneySandoe Demonstrate proper teaching methods & have stu. practice them #edchat LHoog 5/31/11 12:39 PM @CarneySandoe Demonstrate proper teaching methods & have stu. practice them #edchat michaelfski 5/31/11 12:39 PM RT @ktenkely: I think every teacher prep program should include the art of storytelling-my best teachers were master story tellers. #edchat mbfxc 5/31/11 #edchat 12:39 PM @teach2connect Fantastic! Consider it done!

cybraryman1 5/31/11 12:39 PM It was helpful for college juniors to observe in our school to see if teaching was really for them. #edchat rliberni 5/31/11 12:39 PM RT @MZimmer557: @Akevy613 @ShellTerrell Start with the teachers and the progressive reforms will reach the schools. never expect it from top down #edchat carneysandoe 5/31/11 12:39 PM @CTuckerEnglish You agree it would make sense to closer regulate teachers or teachers? #edchat pamwesely 5/31/11 12:39 PM Thx- feeling a little beat up. RT @delta_dc: Many #edchat are involved with teacher prep. Be careful of painting e/ too broad a brush. DenizAtesok 5/31/11 12:39 PM novice teachers gain practice #edchat Having demo lessons would help

ShellTerrell 5/31/11 12:39 PM RT @CTuckerEnglish: I could not agree more! RT @teach2connect: Embrace forward thinking. #edchat maryannesacco 5/31/11 12:39 PM How do we help students eager to be creative in classroom, hold on to the excitement if they work in a school that follows a script?#edchat teach2connect 5/31/11 12:39 PM @stefras @Mr_Casal But what if retired teachers are not ready to teach for 21st C? #edchat stefras 5/31/11 12:39 PM What is not always the case? RT @earlsamuelson: @stefras That's not always the case #edchat FarmGirl44615 5/31/11 12:39 PM @cybraryman1 @delta_dc I love that idea. Its kind of like our mentoring program for entry level teachers. Isolation is bad! ShellTerrell 5/31/11 12:39 PM RT @npf007: Student demo teaching should undergo peer assessment and sharing of ideas / strategies with other student teachers as well. #edchat MZimmer557 5/31/11 12:39 PM @Akevy613 @ShellTerrell Start with the teachers and the progressive reforms will reach the schools. never expect it from top down #edchat CTuckerEnglish 5/31/11 12:39 PM I could not agree more! RT @teach2connect: Embrace forward thinking. #edchat npf007 5/31/11 12:39 PM Student demo teaching should undergo peer assessment and sharing of ideas / strategies with other student teachers as well. #edchat

drtimony 5/31/11 12:39 PM @stumpteacher I research behaviors of #Expert teachers from the students' perspective. Craft is another construct I'd love to crack. #edchat delta_dc 5/31/11 12:39 PM @CarneySandoe We think so. #edchat

virtual_teach 5/31/11 12:40 PM Each semester tchr cand should shadow one tchr, so by tine done they have a pool of mentors #Edchat luc_germain 5/31/11 12:40 PM +1 RT @tomwhitby: #Edchat Tip: If you find interesting people in #Edchat,follow them on TWITTER.It will expand&Enhance your P L N rliberni 5/31/11 12:40 PM RT @cybraryman1: It was helpful for college juniors to observe in our school to see if teaching was really for them. #edchat good idea! MZimmer557 5/31/11 12:40 PM @RushaSams Intern year is perfect...it was what led up to that year that I think is the issue. Little prepared me for intern year #edchat cybraryman1 5/31/11 12:40 PM expertise is essential #edchat @CTuckerEnglish Exactly. Skill set and

teachersnet 5/31/11 12:40 PM RT @ktenkely: @ShellTerrell Grant writing course would have been fantastic! #edchat CTuckerEnglish 5/31/11 12:40 PM i'm less concerned with "regulation" & more concerned with how someone is selected. RT @CarneySandoe: #edchat stefras 5/31/11 12:40 PM @teach2connect Are any of us really? Retired teacher bring great experience to student teaching. Others pick up the tech slack. #edchat sram_socrates 5/31/11 12:40 PM RT @pamwesely: I'd like to know what your BEST teacher ed profs did...not what your worst ones did #edchat teacherdebra 5/31/11 12:40 PM @davidwees I think ppl in admin position in a schl or 1 who is tchg tchrs, needs the classrom experience b4 telling others what 2do #edchat plnaugle 5/31/11 12:40 PM Preservice tchers should be asked to blog, create digital stories, webquests, Glogsters, Prezi etc. for their class projects. #edchat 4thGrdTeach 5/31/11 12:40 PM Blogging: http://bit.ly/knuqqC #edchat 14 Steps to Meaningful Student

pamwesely 5/31/11 12:40 PM I'd like to know what your BEST teacher ed profs did...not what your worst ones did #edchat unseenflirt 5/31/11 12:40 PM There are so many skills in teaching that are being increasingly overlooked - pragmatism and creativity among the most important.#edchat sram_socrates - what did i miss 5/31/11 12:40 PM sorry I am late - issues #edchat

SDucharme 5/31/11 12:40 PM @CTuckerEnglish @teach2connect Yes, and healthy risk-taking - let's move ahead! #edchat rliberni 5/31/11 12:40 PM @FarmGirl44615 any new ESL teachers are welcome to join my programme http://bit.ly/mukGOF #edchat CTuckerEnglish 5/31/11 12:40 PM Teachers of teachers should be chosen carefully for skill set & expertise. Not who raises their hand 1st. RT @cybraryman1: #edchat virtual_teach 5/31/11 12:40 PM One thing that would definitely be helpful is if we required more time w/students & a variety of tchrs #Edchat EarlSamuelson 5/31/11 12:40 PM @stefras .....not always true that grades and ability are inversely related #edchat wjputt 5/31/11 12:40 PM #edchat No assignments.Initial learning teachers need to create videos or story boards or presentations on key pedagogy & present1/2 mbfxc 5/31/11 12:40 PM experience! #edchat mbfxc 5/31/11 12:40 PM experience! #edchat @plnaugle Thank you! It will be an invaluable @plnaugle Thank you! It will be an invaluable

cybraryman1 5/31/11 12:40 PM RT @RushaSams: Univ of TN ed majors have to go 5 yrs - 5th yr is internship. Lots of experience w/classrom lrning. #edchat inquirebook 5/31/11 12:40 PM Nice! RT @cybraryman1: RT @delta_dc: We have our student teachers team teach to break cycle of isolation and as added support. #GVSU #edchat USCTeacher 5/31/11 12:41 PM @virtual_teach That's an idea! Multiple guiding teachers -our students work with at least 2 different teachers during Stud. Teaching #edchat

inquirebook 5/31/11 12:41 PM RT @mistereason: Why aren't teachers taught how to establish relationships with students? Similar to psychologists. #edchat SDucharme 5/31/11 12:41 PM @pamwesely They gave me a good framework for shaping my own educational philosophy #edchat MZimmer557 5/31/11 12:41 PM I had a prof who had an agenda against male teachers who "were only in the profession to coach" made it tough to learn from her #edchat willycard 5/31/11 12:41 PM RT @davidwees: Philosophy of education, "why do we do this?" should be in every teacher's college. #edchat stumpteacher 5/31/11 12:41 PM @DrTimony I would love to crack that one as well... Good convo for edubloggercon possibly. #edchat tomwhitby 5/31/11 12:41 PM Colleges need to collaborate on the successes of their programs to create the best programs from the best ideas w/o prof jealousy. #edchat LectureTools 5/31/11 12:41 PM From @UMich_CRLT RT @rscapin: Practical Guidelines for Using Technology Tools in Classroom Teaching http://bit.ly/j5vCHx #edtech #edchat sram_socrates 5/31/11 12:41 PM @teacherdebra I think as many admin do that they are there to work with teachers not tell them how to #edchat Digin4ed 5/31/11 12:41 PM RT @cybraryman1: RT @virtual_teach: Each semester tchr cand should shadow 1tchr, so by tine done they have a pool of mentors #Edchat Good way to build PLN mbfxc 5/31/11 12:41 PM @sram_socrates I'm learning so much on what to include in my grad classes in the fall! You up to skyping in with my classes? #edchat rliberni 5/31/11 12:41 PM RT @serendipityds: Could teaching colleges have a consultant committee made up of current teachers (all grade levels) that help advise them on courses? #edchat wjputt 5/31/11 12:41 PM #edchat then judgements are made by continuous learning teachers [experienced ones], maybe using TeachMeet model. Sd b heaps of discussion CTuckerEnglish 5/31/11 12:41 PM Yes, let's stretch, grow & pass it onto our students! RT @sducharme: @teach2connect Yes, and healthy risktaking - let's move ahead! #edchat

cybraryman1 5/31/11 12:41 PM RT @virtual_teach: Each semester tchr cand should shadow 1tchr, so by tine done they have a pool of mentors #Edchat Good way to build PLN unseenflirt 5/31/11 12:41 PM The assumption that staying in the classroom is 'stagnating' is at worst insulting and at best dangerous... #edchat stefras 5/31/11 12:41 PM RT @npf007: If you're a student teacher, you should be exposed to PLNs (like #edchat) to get to know more strategies in teaching. rliberni 5/31/11 12:41 PM RT @RushaSams: Univ of TN ed majors have to go 5 yrs - 5th yr is internship. Lots of experience w/classrom lrning. #edchat delta_dc 5/31/11 12:41 PM @cybraryman1 Which changes? #GVSU already incorporates many of these. Please work w/ #highered. #edchat MisterEason 5/31/11 12:41 PM Teachers also need more support in the first year. Medical students have residency programs. Something similar for teachers? #edchat ShellTerrell 5/31/11 12:41 PM Gr8 idea! RT @serendipityds: Could teaching colleges have a consultant committee made of current tchrs who help advise on courses? #edchat DenizAtesok 5/31/11 12:41 PM A collection of video obs on problematic class issues might b created. Ts watch'em & analyse how T handles the situation #edchat npf007 5/31/11 12:41 PM Modeling it first in classes? RT @cybraryman1: How do we get the changes mentioned here to be accomplished in teacher ed programs? #edchat c_marsh35 5/31/11 12:41 PM Some UNIs use adjunct to teach education courses. That can't be good for future teachers unless adjuncts are teachers themselves #edchat MZimmer557 5/31/11 12:42 PM RT @QZLPatriotHawk: School admin hv 2 be more vocal w/ univ. & provide feedback when they hv a concern. #edchat DenizAtesok 5/31/11 trainings #edchat 12:42 PM #dogme must be included in all

mbfxc 5/31/11 12:42 PM RT @plnaugle: Preservice teachers should have to attend online webinars like Classroom 2.0 Live on their own. #edchat physicstweet 5/31/11 comment 8 #edchat 12:42 PM Presence - http://bit.ly/l23qZb - see

cybraryman1 5/31/11 12:42 PM @ronnieburt Yes, it is never too early to get them started but you don't want to scare them off either. I agree #edchat rliberni 5/31/11 12:42 PM RT @luc_germain: RT @davidwees: So at the very least, people teaching in a teachers college s... #edchat [experience at the level their students will teach!] rliberni 5/31/11 12:42 PM RT @QZLPatriotHawk: School admin hv 2 be more vocal w/ univ. & provide feedback when they hv a concern. #edchat CTuckerEnglish 5/31/11 12:42 PM Let me know if u want a voice to speak to integrating online discussions to increase participation & improve engagement RT @mbfxc: #edchat luc_germain 5/31/11 12:42 PM RT @davidwees: So at the very least, people teaching in a teachers college s... #edchat [experience at the level their students will teach!] mrbarranca 5/31/11 12:42 PM Teaching a video broadcasting class this fall. I have no experience. Any resources out there that you can recommend?? TIA! #edchat #ntchat QZLPatriotHawk 5/31/11 12:42 PM School admin hv 2 be more vocal w/ univ. & provide feedback when they hv a concern. #edchat FarmGirl44615 5/31/11 12:42 PM @virtual_teach From what I can gather, how to help student teachers get a clearer idea of our profession (before in the schools) #edchat mbfxc 5/31/11 12:42 PM @ShellTerrell @serendipityds Love this idea! It could start with the alums and could network through many schools and districts #edchat MisterEason 5/31/11 12:42 PM RT @ktenkely: I think every teacher prep program should include the art of storytelling-my best teachers were master story tellers. #edchat virtual_teach 5/31/11 12:42 PM a pln, not everyone as fortune. #Edchat @cybraryman1 I think that's gr8 u had

drtimony 5/31/11 12:42 PM @stumpteacher I don't buy into 'inherent' traits but, sure, some could have been learned early in life and dont require training. #edchat teachersnet 5/31/11 12:42 PM RT @davidwees: Idea: 1 year of preparation followed by 1 year of teaching, followed by a summer (at least) back in teacher college. #edchat

RushaSams 5/31/11 12:42 PM Loved the idea of grant writing course (@shellterrell). What other practical courses should a univ req of ed majors? #edchat plnaugle 5/31/11 12:42 PM Preservice teachers should have to attend online webinars like Classroom 2.0 Live on their own. #edchat maryannesacco 5/31/11 12:42 PM How do we help students eager to be creative in classroom, hold on to the excitement if they work in a school that follows a script? #edchat rliberni 5/31/11 help? #edchat 12:42 PM Would better selection of candidates

EDTECHHULK 5/31/11 12:42 PM @davidwees PROFS TEACHING IN TEACHERS COLLEGE DO HAVE EXPERIENCE TEACHING! TEACHING ADULTS! SAME THING, RIGHT?! (HULK USE SARCASM!) #EDCHAT unseenflirt 5/31/11 12:42 PM ...because an experienced teacher has a lot to offer and undertsands the job better than a deer in the headlinghts NQT #edchat ronnieburt 5/31/11 12:42 PM @cybraryman1 I say even better get them in often observing (and try a small group tutoring session) when freshmen! :) #edchat malcolmbellamy 5/31/11 12:43 PM another thing I didn't do enough of was psychology when I was a student teacher #edchat mbfxc 5/31/11 12:43 PM @sram_socrates Will send you my teaching schedule through DM for the fall #edchat mistergesl 5/31/11 12:43 PM @plnaugle Agreed-If I had started that way my first 4 years would have been completely different #edchat stefras 5/31/11 12:43 PM @Mr_Casal I was trying not to generalize. Agreed re retired & not all teaching is 21C, quality best-practices transcend time. #edchat sguiney 5/31/11 12:43 PM RT @EDUTOPIA: New! Encouraging Your Students to Engage in Deeper Thinking http://bit.ly/kQTEiJ #edchat #k12 #ntchat web20education 5/31/11 12:43 PM New blog post #curation #edtech20 #edtools of the day #bagtheweb awesome for #education20 #iste11 #edreform #edchat #sm http://t.co/0aVdNtC

glamrat 5/31/11 12:43 PM @MisterEason Agreed, but I do think too much money is wasted on district level teacher orientation programs. #edchat rliberni 5/31/11 12:43 PM RT @cybraryman1: @DenizAtesok My Dogme page (for those not familiar with Dogme): http://tinyurl.com/4aa72lm #edchat sram_socrates 5/31/11 excellent idea #edchat 12:43 PM @virtual_teach that is an

unseenflirt 5/31/11 12:43 PM It worries me that there is an assumption/ unwritten rule that after 5 yrs max, you should be looking to get out of the classroom #edchat cybraryman1 5/31/11 12:43 PM @DenizAtesok My Dogme page (for those not familiar with Dogme): http://tinyurl.com/4aa72lm #edchat usamimi74 5/31/11 12:43 PM RT @kevcreutz: Bring your own device catching on in schools: http://bit.ly/my8Z5a #edtech #edchat virtual_teach 5/31/11 12:43 PM was immensely beneficial #Edchat @npf007 we did that in my college & it

kegluskin 5/31/11 12:43 PM RT @web20education: @rliberni A good teacher is one who teaches bc he love students not for money #edtech wjputt 5/31/11 12:43 PM RT @MisterEason: Too much emphasis on content areas and not enough emphasis on pedagogy. #edchat << absolutely. Cognition too. blairteach 5/31/11 12:43 PM @delta_dc Speaking of "too broad a brush," I suspect "many" (in relation to the #edchat "whole") might be a tad overstated. (@shellterrell) LHoog 5/31/11 12:43 PM RT @QZLPatriotHawk: School admin hv 2 be more vocal w/ univ. & provide feedback when they hv a concern. #edchat Amen! reflectivemaths 5/31/11 12:43 PM RT @tomwhitby: Teaching programs should include a course specifially for Educational technology tools and social media awareness. #Edchat MisterEason 5/31/11 12:43 PM Stop the Lecture. If I hear another lecture about why teachers shouldn't lecture, I'll explode! #edchat sram_socrates 5/31/11 12:43 PM @mbfxc i would love to skype with your class. would be great talking to them what day are you thinking? #edchat

davidwees 5/31/11 12:43 PM I'm focusing in today on what colleges should do rather than being too negative. Remember that everyone works really hard! #edchat mbfxc 5/31/11 12:44 PM @sram_socrates @virtual_teach I also assign a shadow assignment but I ask teacher candidates to shadow a student #edchat carneysandoe 5/31/11 12:44 PM RT @cybraryman1: What are essential courses prospective teachers should take if they want to teach? #edchat c_marsh35 5/31/11 12:44 PM PLNs & PLCs r designed for Teach to stay current & cont lifelong ed. Teachers should be exposed to this idea during under grad work #edchat teacherdebra 5/31/11 12:44 PM @davidwees I was in an excelent tchr program @ UPenn. We were in classroom 9 months. #edchat cybraryman1 5/31/11 12:44 PM What are essential courses prospective teachers should take if they want to teach? #edchat DavidAshworth16 5/31/11 12:44 PM RT @cliffmanning: Audacity Guide - fun video tutorials ideal for classroom use - http://bit.ly/jLTIuj #ukedchat #edchat #edtech stefras 5/31/11 12:44 PM RT @Mr_Casal: I know a lot of tech savvy retired teachers. Plus, not all teaching is 21C, quality best-practices transcend time #edchat inquirebook 5/31/11 12:44 PM @rliberni Yes, I was thinking that teaching that pacing model would help teachers break from the lecture approach. #edchat virtual_teach 5/31/11 12:44 PM Theory is all well good, but we need to get candidates in classrooms, w/stu & exp tchrs early & often to build experience #Edchat rliberni 5/31/11 12:44 PM RT @delta_dc: @pamwesely No problem #edchat participants can check out my blog to see what we are doing at #GVSU unseenflirt 5/31/11 12:44 PM Yes, you can't keep the energy levels up indefinitely, but it takes a few years to actually figure out what the job is #edchat Komos72 5/31/11 12:44 PM @plnaugle: Preservice tchers should be asked to blog, create digital stories, webquests, Glogsters, Prezi etc. for class projects. #edchat

MisterEason 5/31/11 12:44 PM @tomwhitby I did take a course of edtech but it did not consist of social media. #edchat CTuckerEnglish 5/31/11 Definitely! #edchat 12:44 PM Great! I'd love that. RT @mbfxc:

carneysandoe 5/31/11 12:44 PM @CTuckerEnglish So focusing on the hiring process and not necessarily a specific profile? #edchat rliberni 5/31/11 12:44 PM RT @malcolmbellamy: another thing I didn't do enough of was psychology when I was a student teacher #edchat delta_dc 5/31/11 12:44 PM @pamwesely No problem #edchat participants can check out my blog to see what we are doing at #GVSU kegluskin 5/31/11 12:44 PM @cybraryman1 prospective teachers should observe in a classroom as early as possible to decide if teaching is for them #edchat davidwees 5/31/11 12:44 PM @symphily I have not actually. I wonder if they are presenting on the changes they are making? Seeking feedback from alumni? #edchat bethanyvsmith 5/31/11 12:45 PM residency = student teaching? #edchat @MisterEason doesn't medical

4thGrdTeach 5/31/11 12:45 PM my best professors sought the human connection and made themselves available #edchat librarykittie 5/31/11 12:45 PM classroom mgmt & design ... #edchat @cybraryman1 Ed. Advocacy,

rliberni 5/31/11 12:45 PM @RushaSams why not? Is your course very different from the mainstream? #edchat queenaddie 5/31/11 12:45 PM RT @stefras: RT @npf007: If you're a student teacher, you should be exposed to PLNs (like #edchat) to get to know more strategies in teaching. johnpassantino 5/31/11 12:45 PM @maryannesacco We must find room to deviate from the script. Script will not reach traditional non-learner. #edchat blairteach 5/31/11 12:45 PM Keep in mind there are some EXCELLENT tchr prep prgrms Just as all admins are not out-of-touch, neither are all prep prgms. #edchat delta_dc 5/31/11 12:45 PM @davidwees But some colleges are already doing these things and more. #edreform #edchat

CTuckerEnglish 5/31/11 12:45 PM Interesting perspective shift! RT @mbfxc: @sram_socrates @virtual_teach I ask teacher candidates to shadow a student #edchat unseenflirt 5/31/11 12:45 PM I've been on the anti-academies frontline recently and it's clear that many Heads do not value experienced classroom teachers at all #edchat glamrat 5/31/11 12:45 PM Exactly! RT@MisterEason: Stop the Lecture. If I hear another lecture about why teachers shouldn't lecture, I'll explode! #edchat cheryltice 5/31/11 12:45 PM @ktenkely they should also be good at analogy - comparing the stuff students learn with stuff they already know... #edchat MZimmer557 5/31/11 12:45 PM @librarykittie another issue with teacher edu. Not enough emphasis on understanding the extra duties teachers need to be ready for #edchat pamwesely 5/31/11 12:45 PM The roster of gen ed courses in teacher ed programs can't change too much - state regs #edchat npf007 5/31/11 12:45 PM @serendipityds every college or area should have a committee that reviews the curriculum / courses in a semestral basis (at least) #edchat virtual_teach 5/31/11 12:45 PM @plnaugle I completely agree! There is an art to reflection & tchng gr8ly depends upon it #Edchat rliberni 5/31/11 12:45 PM RT @cybraryman1: What are essential courses prospective teachers should take if they want to teach? #edchat MisterEason 5/31/11 12:45 PM @glamrat Never heard of them. What do teacher orientation programs do? #edchat sram_socrates 5/31/11 12:45 PM @mbfxc sounds perfect I will also DM you my Email might make it easier #edchat TEDxSFED 5/31/11 12:45 PM We are releasing our #TEDxSFED talks one at a time. The @thefreezesf is up first. Enjoy the talk. http://bit.ly/k6QV3b #TEDx #SF #edchat NextGenLC 5/31/11 12:45 PM Academics, in New Move, Begin to Work With Wikipedia http://ow.ly/56Lzt #edtech #edchat

katrocada 5/31/11 12:45 PM RT @EDUTOPIA: New! Encouraging Your Students to Engage in Deeper Thinking http://bit.ly/kQTEiJ #edchat #k12 #ntchat USCTeacher 5/31/11 12:45 PM @unseenflirt Very true - commitment to staying in the classroom will help us build a better network of experience teachers #edchat CTuckerEnglish 5/31/11 12:45 PM i'm thinking about how teachers are chosen for student-teacher assignments. Are we picking strongest mentors? RT @CarneySandoe: #edchat sram_socrates 5/31/11 12:46 PM @mbfxc wow that is an amazing idea, I think that would be immensely helpful #edchat rliberni 5/31/11 12:46 PM RT @cheryltice: @ktenkely they should also be good at analogy - comparing the stuff students learn with stuff they already know... #edchat rliberni 5/31/11 12:46 PM RT @MZimmer557: @librarykittie another issue with teacher edu. Not enough emphasis on understanding the extra duties teachers need to be ready for #edchat c_marsh35 5/31/11 12:46 PM me as an educator & student. #edchat a course on Learning Styles. it helped

juandoming 5/31/11 12:46 PM Twitter Reading List http://bit.ly/4hNNz Resources of #Twitter by @c4LPT @jdthomas7 .@juandoming #edchat #lrnchat #education #web20 #odite web20education 5/31/11 12:46 PM My eSafety4eTwinners project where EU students collaborate #eSafety http://www.jogtheweb.com/run/SEKct53X9ORD/e-Safety4eTwinners#1 #edchat unseenflirt 5/31/11 12:46 PM RT @tomwhitby: Authentic learning for tchr prep comes at stdnt tchng. Perfection of the craft comes on the job with a lifelong learning perspective #Edchat librarykittie 5/31/11 12:46 PM info when student teaching... #edchat @MZimmer557 Should be included

tomaltepeter 5/31/11 12:46 PM Sharing Targets (Tom's Posterous) http://bit.ly/lok6sV #cpchat #edchat #tsdr2j MisterEason 5/31/11 12:46 PM @bethanyvsmith My student teaching was only 4 months long. As I understand it, a residency is a couple of years, right? #edchat

virtual_teach 5/31/11 12:46 PM @mistereason not everyone sees stutchr relationship as valuable, but fluff #Edchat maryannesacco 5/31/11 12:46 PM @pamwesely The Best teacher ed profs knew their content well, & guided class by using & sharing their experiences in teaching/admin #edchat tomwhitby 5/31/11 12:46 PM Maybe ALL student tchrs regardless of Subj area, should spend a few weeks on a special Ed assigned class as further teaching Prep. #edchat CTuckerEnglish 5/31/11 12:46 PM Classes don't necessarily need to change, but way they are taught could mirror innovative ways to teach in classroom RT @pamwesely: #edchat cybraryman1 5/31/11 12:46 PM @librarykittie Yes. I asked that because that is what should be incorpated in teacher prep. #edchat Kination 5/31/11 12:46 PM RT @ParentingSPD: From play dates to social stories, check out 9 Ways to Boost Your Childs Social Skills http://wp.me/p1l3K9-vg #autism #SPDBN #edchat mjmontagne 5/31/11 12:46 PM RT @TEDxSFED: We are releasing our #TEDxSFED talks one at a time. The @thefreezesf is up first. Enjoy the talk. http://bit.ly/k6QV3b #TEDx #SF #edchat rliberni 5/31/11 12:46 PM RT @CTuckerEnglish: i'm thinking about how teachers are chosen for student-teacher assignments. Are we picking strongest mentors? RT @CarneySandoe: #edchat c_marsh35 5/31/11 12:47 PM I agree tomwhitby: It was a requirement for my education program to go on a spec ed field exp. Very valuable. #edchat mbfxc 5/31/11 12:47 PM @cybraryman1 ed psych w/ a focus on reflection. U can't undstnd urself as a teacher until u undstnd urself as a learner #edchat kegluskin 5/31/11 12:47 PM RT @tomwhitby: Teaching programs should include a course specifially for Educational technology tools and social media awareness. #edchat TutorMe_Online 5/31/11 12:47 PM RT @CTuckerEnglish: Interesting perspective shift! RT @mbfxc: @sram_socrates @virtual_teach I ask teacher candidates to shadow a student #edchat cybraryman1 5/31/11 12:47 PM RT @malcolmbellamy: teacher ed is just the start I'm still learning how to teach! #edchat

rliberni 5/31/11 12:47 PM RT @blairteach: Keep in mind there are some EXCELLENT tchr prep prgrms Just as all admins are not out-of-touch, neither are all prep prgms. #edchat CTuckerEnglish 5/31/11 12:47 PM It's as good as 2 individuals involved. If u put a lot into stud-teach relationship, u get alot out RT @virtual_teach: @mistereason #Edchat malcolmbellamy 5/31/11 12:47 PM still learning how to teach! #edchat teacher ed is just the start I'm

rliberni 5/31/11 12:47 PM RT @CTuckerEnglish: Interesting perspective shift! RT @mbfxc: @sram_socrates @virtual_teach I ask teacher candidates to shadow a student #edchat MisterEason 5/31/11 12:47 PM @virtual_teach Well, maybe we should show what a good relationship can do for student outcomes first. #edchat pamwesely 5/31/11 12:47 PM Practical concerns do enter into mentor selection - don't assume all teacher ed programs are in/near highly populated areas! #edchat woodsidebiology 5/31/11 12:47 PM RT @davidwees: If our classrooms are supposed to be student centred, so too should our teacher colleges. #edchat plnaugle 5/31/11 12:47 PM I like how Dr. John Strange U of South Alabama teaches preservice teachers http://bit.ly/axCYx5 #edchat cybraryman1 5/31/11 12:47 PM ELL, ESL, Gifted.... #edchat @tomwhitby Not only Special Ed, but

rliberni 5/31/11 12:48 PM RT @mbfxc: @cybraryman1 ed psych w/ a focus on reflection. U can't undstnd urself as a teacher until u undstnd urself as a learner #edchat carneysandoe 5/31/11 12:48 PM your school choose mentors? #edchat @CTuckerEnglish Got it! How does

USCTeacher 5/31/11 12:48 PM @MrsCindyTorres Unfortunate that she was not more of a mentor, hopefully you had a better experience with other GT's? #edchat MisterEason 5/31/11 12:48 PM @glamrat Well maybe a mentor program can offer a more individualized approach and help the new teacher in areas they need help. #edchat cybraryman1 5/31/11 12:48 PM Now, we need to take all those great recommendations & build them into teacher prep programs #edchat

pamwesely 5/31/11 12:48 PM Doing 4 yrs of improv helped me! RT @Mamacita: Secondary level teachers, at least, could benefit from a course or two in stand-up. #edchat CTuckerEnglish 5/31/11 12:48 PM Agreed! I picked up a learning platform & learned through trial and error. It's transformed my approach RT @malcolmbellamy: #edchat MmeVachon 5/31/11 12:48 PM @tomwhitby sp.ed. class was required in my teaching deg. and it was a great thought provoking class #Edchat MZimmer557 5/31/11 12:48 PM RT @teacherdebra: @cybraryman1 integr8ing tech, clssrm mgmt, differenti8ing instr, wrking w/IEPs, how 2 talk 2 parents, using lit across curric. #edchat chrisemdin 5/31/11 12:48 PM Teacher prep is missing metacognitive reflection. Teachers must learn to think about how & why they teach the way they do #edchat rliberni 5/31/11 12:48 PM RT @plnaugle: I like how Dr. John Strange U of South Alabama teaches preservice teachers http://bit.ly/axCYx5 #edchat Mamacita 5/31/11 12:48 PM Secondary level teachers, at least, could certainly benefit from a course or two in stand-up. #edchat juanigncastro 5/31/11 12:48 PM RT @juandoming: Twitter Reading List http://bit.ly/4hNNz Resources of #Twitter by @c4LPT @jdthomas7 #edchat #education #web20 #odite cybraryman1 5/31/11 12:48 PM @Davy_Parkin Definitely as well as classroom management, organization. #edchat stefras 5/31/11 12:48 PM @teach2connect It also stands that teaching 21C skills should also be embraced by schools and their admin. #edchat teacherdebra 5/31/11 12:48 PM @cybraryman1 integr8ing tech, clssrm mgmt, differenti8ing instr, wrking w/IEPs, how 2 talk 2 parents, using lit across curric. #edchat plnaugle 5/31/11 12:49 PM Teachers should contact nearest college of ed and offer to Skype with ed students. I have Skyped with some from U of South AL. #edchat Jared_Ritz 5/31/11 12:49 PM RT @QZLPatriotHawk The classes I remember & think back made me better were the 1s that made me think differently. #edchat

debbyk 5/31/11 12:49 PM @FarmGirl44615 @davidwees yes, but sometimes you can learn much about good teaching from bad teachers (what NOT to do!) #edchat Rekaloan 5/31/11 12:49 PM Moreno Valley school switches to virtual frog dissections: http://t.co/s3MJXWn #edchat #science #education #edu cybraryman1 5/31/11 12:49 PM @kegluskin I know because I encountered all of them at one time or another in my classes #edchat carneysandoe 5/31/11 12:49 PM RT @c_marsh35: It would be nice to see Universities do away with electives for future teachers and replace them w/ extra field work. #edchat USCTeacher 5/31/11 12:49 PM @MrsCindyTorres Glad you were able to turn it into a more positive experience! #edchat web20education 5/31/11 12:49 PM #chirpstory a complete #edtech20 #curation experience for creating and sharing twitter stories #socialmedia #edchat http://bit.ly/m26Ut8 #sm npf007 5/31/11 12:49 PM RT @Komos72: @plnaugle: Preservice tchers should be asked to blog, create digital stories, webquests, Glogsters, Prezi etc. for class projects. #edchat rliberni 5/31/11 12:49 PM RT @cybraryman1: Now, we need to take all those great recommendations & build them into teacher prep programs #edchat kegluskin 5/31/11 12:49 PM RT @mbfxc: @cybraryman1 ed psych w/ a focus on reflection. U can't undstnd urself as a teacher until u undstnd urself as a learner #edchat jdgudger 5/31/11 12:49 PM RT @chrisemdin: Teacher prep is missing metacognitive reflection. Teachers must learn to think about how & why they teach the way they do #edchat CriticalSkills1 5/31/11 12:49 PM Just joining the #edchat (late) 'cause I'm grading papers- I teach preservice teachers. Picked a bad day to be late! #Edchat Tina_Barr 5/31/11 12:49 PM RT @kegluskin: @cybraryman1 @tomwhitby definitely agree-teachers need to be prepared to teach ALL students of ALL abilities! #edchat QZLPatriotHawk 5/31/11 12:49 PM The classes I remember & think back made me better were the 1s that made me think differently. #edchat

c_marsh35 5/31/11 12:49 PM It would be nice to see Universities do away with electives for future teachers and replace them w/ extra field work. #edchat mbfxc 5/31/11 12:49 PM @sram_socrates this is my idea - i go in2 schools sub for u while u shadow student. continue 2 do this 4 the team & moderator convo #edchat mbfxc 5/31/11 12:49 PM @sram_socrates this is my idea - i go in2 schools sub for u while u shadow student. continue 2 do this 4 the team & moderator convo #edchat rliberni 5/31/11 12:49 PM RT @Mamacita: Secondary level teachers, at least, could certainly benefit from a course or two in stand-up. #edchat kegluskin 5/31/11 12:49 PM @cybraryman1 @tomwhitby definitely agree-teachers need to be prepared to teach ALL students of ALL abilities! #edchat stefras 5/31/11 12:49 PM @earlsamuelson Did not mean any insult. I did use usually and in my experience and those I have associated with this holds. #edchat teachersnet 5/31/11 12:49 PM What's in your toolbox [educators]? http://bit.ly/lMoL62 #edchat #edadmin delta_dc 5/31/11 12:49 PM @blairteach @shellterrell You don't think that many of the #edchat participants are involved in teacher prep? #edchat CriticalSkills1 5/31/11 12:50 PM @rliberni @CTuckerEnglish @CarneySandoe That's always the hardest part- good mentors are scarce as hen's teeth coolcatteacher 5/31/11 12:50 PM RT @cybraryman1: What are essential courses prospective teachers should take if they want to teach? #edchat bethanyvsmith 5/31/11 12:50 PM we've implemented a field experience in every year - can't wait until senior year to decide you hate teaching (or aren't good at it) #edchat plnaugle 5/31/11 12:50 PM Are each of us willing to mentor one new teacher here on Twiter? We have so much to share. #edchat QZLPatriotHawk 5/31/11 12:50 PM RT @cybraryman1: What were your best memories or learnings in your teacher preparation courses? #edchat

kegluskin 5/31/11 12:50 PM Teachers need to reflect on their favorite teachers and remember why they want to be teachers to incorporate these techniques! #edchat CTuckerEnglish 5/31/11 12:50 PM As an exper teacher, it's nice to get some inspiration & idealism from fresh teachers w/ fresh ideas RT @sram_socrates: #edchat CriticalSkills1 5/31/11 already at my IHE 12:50 PM @ davidwees- we do a lot of this stuff

sram_socrates 5/31/11 12:50 PM @mbfxc wow, I am becoming a little envious of your students. my studies were a little different (traditional) #edchat cybraryman1 5/31/11 12:50 PM What were your best memories or learnings in your teacher preparation courses? #edchat RushaSams 5/31/11 12:50 PM @CTuckerEnglish @mbfxc @sram_socrates @virtual_teach Love the idea of shadowing a student! You learn about learning! #edchat stefras 5/31/11 12:50 PM @npf007 The problem with peer critique is that peers are not kids. You are not responsible for peers' learning. #pressuredowell #edchat juanjomoar 5/31/11 12:50 PM RT @cybraryman1: Now, we need to take all those great recommendations & build them into teacher prep programs #edchat Write_To_Learn 5/31/11 12:50 PM 2. Production & Distribution of writing with an emphasis on development, organization & style appropriate to the task! #writetolearn #edchat MisterEason 5/31/11 rematch! #edchat 12:50 PM @jdgudger I look forward to the

eclassroomnews 5/31/11 12:50 PM Did you miss it? Five ways readers are using iPads in the classroom http://ow.ly/56Jod #ipad #elearning #edtech #edchat CIW_Instructor 5/31/11 12:50 PM Stud-teachers could learn a lot from Twitter PLN working in new environment. Only 4% of teachers use SoMe, that has got to change. #edchat stefras 5/31/11 12:51 PM issues #edchat - what did i miss Ha! RT @sram_socrates: sorry I am late -

mistergesl 5/31/11 12:51 PM can we get started? #edchat

@plnaugle That would be great-how

mbfxc 5/31/11 12:51 PM @sram_socrates Shadowing std as a team allows u 2 see what is happening from a std perspective & provides opp 2 see what is missing #edchat plnaugle 5/31/11 12:51 PM Preservice tchers need to be assigned a master teacher and do field experiences with that person. #edchat rliberni 5/31/11 12:51 PM RT @QZLPatriotHawk: The classes I remember & think back made me better were the 1s that made me think differently. #edchat carneysandoe 5/31/11 norm for many... #edchat 12:51 PM @CTuckerEnglish That is, sadly, the

chrisemdin 5/31/11 12:51 PM Teachers of teachers MUST have be required to have experience in the classroom. You can't teach what you haven't lived #edchat CriticalSkills1 5/31/11 12:51 PM @CTuckerEnglish @pamwesely Yes! we teach the way we were taught, so our teacher ed programs need to model good practice #Edchat zbpipe 5/31/11 12:51 PM Absolutely!! @plnaugle: Teachers should contact nearest college of ed- offer Skype w/ed students..... #edchat drtimony 5/31/11 12:51 PM @stumpteacher blogged about a few items here: http://drtimony.com/?p=112 as well as here: http://drtimony.com/?p=115 #edchat sram_socrates 5/31/11 12:51 PM @RushaSams I think this would also be an interesting concept even for students in high-school with teachers seeing theother side #edchat kegluskin 5/31/11 12:51 PM @cybraryman1 and in this day and age, more teachers are encountering students of different abilities and nationalities #edchat TBilich 5/31/11 12:51 PM RT @tomwhitby: College classes can make good teachers. Great teachers are made from their own classes. #Edchat USCTeacher 5/31/11 12:51 PM @kegluskin Good idea! There is probably a reason they were your favorite teacher #edchat DenizAtesok 5/31/11 12:51 PM @cybraryman1: @DenizAtesok My Dogme page (for those not familiar with Dogme): http://t.co/kbNdzlP #edchat

CTuckerEnglish 5/31/11 12:51 PM To be honest, it comes down to 1st person to cave. Most can't be bothered RT @CarneySandoe: How does your school choose mentors? #edchat Rekaloan 5/31/11 12:51 PM Teachers give a gold star to a free-forall education camp - Philly.com: http://t.co/EsDJCzM #edchat #education #mathchat #edu #teaching rliberni 5/31/11 12:51 PM Don't forget to follow @jswiatek for the archive of this chat and summaries can be found here http://bit.ly/1aB6bx #edchat DenizAtesok 5/31/11 12:51 PM @cybraryman1 that's quite a collecrion of links. Very well-done! #edchat ckoos1 5/31/11 12:51 PM RT @plnaugle: I like how Dr. John Strange U of South Alabama teaches preservice teachers http://bit.ly/axCYx5 #edchat wjputt 5/31/11 12:51 PM #edchat Teachers must continue to be learners & thus be continually re-energised thus reducing burn out. epaopao 5/31/11 12:51 PM RT @kegluskin: Teachers need to reflect on their favorite teachers and remember why they want to be teachers to incorporate these techniques! #edchat 1Jockamo 5/31/11 12:52 PM RT @carneysandoe: Even an employee at Mcdonald's goes through training and has someone to watch over...first year teachers often have less than that #edchat tomwhitby 5/31/11 12:52 PM Media Literacy should be at the very least incorporated int a Literacy course for teachers. #Edchat chrisemdin 5/31/11 12:52 PM share. I'll dig it up #edchat @ShellTerrell I have a syllabus I can

QZLPatriotHawk 5/31/11 12:52 PM Debating @alfiekohn book RT @cybraryman1: What were your best memories or learnings in your teacher preparation courses? #edchat CriticalSkills1 5/31/11 12:52 PM @rliberni @blairteach I agree. THe program I teach in is very different from the one I attended #Edchat kegluskin 5/31/11 12:52 PM @plnaugle I'm looking for a full-time teaching job. Finding other educators on Twitter has been inspiring for sharing & discussing #edchat

pritaylor 5/31/11 12:52 PM RT @plnaugle: Preservice tchers need to be assigned a master teacher and do field experiences with that person. #edchat carneysandoe 5/31/11 12:52 PM Even an employee at Mcdonald's goes through training and has someone to watch over...first year teachers often have less than that #edchat sram_socrates 5/31/11 12:52 PM RT @CTuckerEnglish: As an exper teacher, it's nice to get some inspiration & idealism from fresh teachers w/ fresh ideas - I agree #edchat RushaSams 5/31/11 12:52 PM RT @CTuckerEnglish @CarneySandoe RE: how stdnt tchrs r assigned: Some are given to teachers who need help themselves! #edchat cybraryman1 5/31/11 12:52 PM RT @inquirebook: I like this. RT @4thgrdteach: my best professors sought the human connection and made themselves available #edchat zbpipe 5/31/11 12:52 PM @plnaugle: I had my preservice student attend webinars as part of an assignment. authentic, real time learning. #edchat rliberni 5/31/11 on the topic? #edchat 12:52 PM @CriticalSkills1 what is your opinion

cybraryman1 5/31/11 12:52 PM Next #edchat (7 pm EST) How do we change the perception, promoted by many that the education system is riddled with incompetent teachers? epaopao 5/31/11 12:52 PM @CTuckerEnglish by experience. In hopes that the vet learns from the noob, and vice versa. They also PD with tech evry Wed nite #edchat Rekaloan 5/31/11 12:52 PM Common-Standards Supports for Teachers Eyed- #Education : http://t.co/5V2oXVQ #edu #edchat #IOT1 inquirebook 5/31/11 12:52 PM I like this. RT @4thgrdteach: my best professors sought the human connection and made themselves available #edchat CriticalSkills1 5/31/11 12:52 PM of a time finding good mentors #Edchat @pamwesely My rural IHE has a heck

rliberni 5/31/11 12:52 PM RT @CriticalSkills1: Just joining the #edchat (late) 'cause I'm grading papers- I teach preservice teachers. Picked a bad day to be late! #Edchat

specialteaching 5/31/11 12:52 PM RT @tomwhitby: Maybe ALL student tchrs regardless of Subj area, should spend a few weeks on a special Ed assigned class. #edchat ShellTerrell 5/31/11 12:52 PM RT @plnaugle: Preservice tchers need to be assigned a master teacher and do field experiences with that person. #edchat CTuckerEnglish 5/31/11 12:52 PM True. It takes time & energy to mentor...both are scarce in teaching profession RT @CriticalSkills1: @rliberni @CarneySandoe #Edchat RushaSams 5/31/11 12:53 PM We emphasize real-life learning for students -- shouldn't we do the same for prospective teachers? #edchat CriticalSkills1 5/31/11 12:53 PM @MmeVachon @tomwhitby Instead of a SpEd class, we should model what good co-teaching and differentiation look like in every class #Edchat delta_dc 5/31/11 12:53 PM Off to a meeting w/ my College of Ed colleagues on an iP@d2 study we're developing for preservice teachers. I'll pass on your ideas. #edchat rliberni 5/31/11 12:53 PM RT @Caro_lann: #edchat I've been trying to get my trainee tchrs to engage with Twitter all year. Complete failure. Any ideas? cybraryman1 5/31/11 12:53 PM RT @wjputt: #edchat Teachers must continue to be learners & thus be continually re-energised thus reducing burn out. CTuckerEnglish 5/31/11 12:53 PM This yr my goal to put students in role of teacher guiding their learning. Awesome experience http://bit.ly/k0esSq #edchat pritaylor 5/31/11 12:53 PM New Blog Post-- My Ultimate Productivity Tool: StayFocusd http://bit.ly/jsJA0I #edchat #chrome #productivity ShellTerrell 5/31/11 12:53 PM RT @snakel7: Education programs do not promote "new" "fresh ideas" like in other fields. #edchat NAFCareerAcads 5/31/11 12:53 PM RT @tomwhitby: Media Literacy should be at the very least incorporated int a Literacy course for teachers. #Edchat rliberni 5/31/11 12:53 PM RT @malcolmbellamy: my favourite moment in my training course was learning to teach dance and understanding it by doing it #edchat

kegluskin 5/31/11 12:53 PM RT @wjputt: #edchat Teachers must continue to be learners & thus be continually re-energised thus reducing burn out. ShellTerrell 5/31/11 12:53 PM Me too! RT @plnaugle: I like how Dr. John Strange @drjohnhadley teaches preservice teachers http://bit.ly/axCYx5 #edchat mbfxc 5/31/11 12:53 PM @sram_socrates Call me a rule breaker - I definitely break tradition! :) I consider myself a teacher 1st and then a professor #edchat bonniebird 5/31/11 12:53 PM RT @tomwhitby: Media Literacy should be at the very least incorporated int a Literacy course for teachers. #Edchat --> totally agree! sram_socrates 5/31/11 12:53 PM @mbfxc I think I am going to purpose that one day next year as a PD for myself. #edchat snakel7 5/31/11 12:53 PM Education programs do not promote "new" "fresh ideas" like in other fields. #edchat Caro_lann 5/31/11 12:53 PM #edchat I've been trying to get my trainee tchrs to engage with Twitter all year. Complete failure. Any ideas? mrwejr 5/31/11 12:53 PM Our future is in good hands | The Wejr Board http://bit.ly/f1LJ3v @rvdemerchant #bced #ufv #edchat carneysandoe 5/31/11 12:53 PM RT @CTuckerEnglish @CarneySandoe RE: how stdnt tchrs r assigned: Some are given to teachers who need help themselves! #edchat Agree kegluskin 5/31/11 12:53 PM @bethanyvsmith that's what I had too. And by the time I student taught sr. year, I was prepared and ready to go! #edchat malcolmbellamy 5/31/11 12:53 PM my favourite moment in my training course was learning to teach dance and understanding it by doing it #edchat MisterEason 5/31/11 12:53 PM At the end of the day, if anybody wants to be a good tcher, they will find ways to do so regardless of the adequacy of a prep prgrm. #edchat drtimony 5/31/11 12:53 PM @stumpteacher I'll be speaking about it at the Dropout Prevention Conference in Chicago in the Fall. #edchat

rliberni 5/31/11 12:53 PM RT @tomwhitby: Media Literacy should be at the very least incorporated int a Literacy course for teachers. #Edchat stefras 5/31/11 12:53 PM @pamwesely That would take a post or two. Also learn as much from worst as from best. #edchat wjputt 5/31/11 12:54 PM #edchat half term here in the UK so catching #edchat for the first time. Really enjoying it. luc_germain 5/31/11 12:54 PM RT @rliberni: Would better selection of candidates help? #edchat [Are there enough candidates to do it in UK & elsewhere ?] specialteaching 5/31/11 12:54 PM RT @cybraryman1: Now, we need to take all those great recommendations & build them into teacher prep programs #edchat CriticalSkills1 5/31/11 12:54 PM @c_marsh35 I disagree- the electives are so important in creating creative educators! #Edchat drtimony 5/31/11 12:54 PM Any #edcampchicago tweeple going to this? http://ow.ly/56Pk8 I'll be looking for some tweetups or maybe an impromptu #edcamp?! #edchat maryannesacco 5/31/11 12:54 PM Every teaching candidate in a primary/secondary program should have a student teach exp. in a kindergarten class. So much learning! #edchat CTuckerEnglish 5/31/11 12:54 PM So is that blind leading the blind? Or do they both benefit? RT @CarneySandoe: @CarneySandoe #edchat juandoming 5/31/11 12:54 PM #Teaching With #Twitter http://t.co/rdSLdf1 #elearning #web20 #pln #ple #socialmedia @c4LPT @.juandoming @jaycross #edtech #edchat c_marsh35 5/31/11 12:54 PM Stud teach w/ mentor who pushed me 2 take over her class ASAP. She said best way 2 learn 2 teach is by teaching THX Mrs Karen Rubio! #edchat Elle_Gifted 5/31/11 12:54 PM RT @mbfxc: I would welcome anyone to Skype in with my graduate classes for the real teaching perspective! #edchat kegluskin 5/31/11 12:54 PM @chrisemdin not only experience, but recent experience. Having taught 20 years ago isn't the same as schools today! #edchat

kalinagoenglish 5/31/11 12:54 PM RT @rliberni: Don't forget to follow @jswiatek for the archive of this chat and summaries can be found here http://bit.ly/1aB6bx #edchat Tina_Barr 5/31/11 12:54 PM RT @CTuckerEnglish: This yr my goal to put students in role of teacher guiding learning. Awesome experience http://bit.ly/k0esSq #edchat MisterEason 5/31/11 12:54 PM You can have the best prep program in the world but still produce mediocre teachers if teachers are unwilling to work. #edchat cybraryman1 5/31/11 12:54 PM RT @CTuckerEnglish: This yr my goal put students in role of teacher guiding their learning. Awesome experience http://bit.ly/k0esSq #edchat mrwejr 5/31/11 12:54 PM Anyone remember the story of the softball team that was blowing out another team and stopped the game to help coach/teach? #edchat ashwinram 5/31/11 12:54 PM Academics, in New Move, Begin to Work With Wikipedia http://ow.ly/56Lzt by @jfischman in The @Chronicle #edtech #edchat #in via @NextGenLC rliberni 5/31/11 12:54 PM RT @CTuckerEnglish: This yr my goal to put students in role of teacher guiding their learning. Awesome experience http://bit.ly/k0esSq #edchat 4thGrdTeach 5/31/11 12:55 PM @caro_lann don't give up, keep showing them the benefits of Twitter #edchat wjputt 5/31/11 12:55 PM RT @mbfxc: @cybraryman1 ed psych w/ a focus on reflection. U can't undstnd urself as a teacher until u undstnd urself as a learner #edchat maryannesacco 5/31/11 12:55 PM RT @CTuckerEnglish: IThat would be so interesting & challenging! RT @maryannesacco: Every teaching candidate should exp. in a kindergarten class. #edchat Tina_Barr 5/31/11 12:55 PM RT @bethanyvsmith: @CarneySandoe but is first year teaching & needing a mentor a school district issue or a teacher prep issue? #edchat cybraryman1 5/31/11 12:55 PM @librarykittie It is so helpful to learn these things and be able to utilize them in your career. #edchat juanjomoar 5/31/11 12:55 PM RT @cybraryman1: RT @wjputt: #edchat Teachers must continue to be learners & thus be continually reenergised thus reducing burn out.

pamwesely 5/31/11 12:55 PM (1/2) Are we using an antiquated way of looking at teacher prep - teachers getting knowledge poured into their heads... #edchat MisterEason 5/31/11 12:55 PM @bethanyvsmith That's a shame. It's hard to be in school for that long with little or no rent money. #edchat npf007 5/31/11 12:55 PM @delta_dc @blairteach @shellterrell perhaps the reason for this is that not all #edchat participants are necessarily involved in preps. bethanyvsmith 5/31/11 12:55 PM @CarneySandoe but is first year teaching & needing a mentor a school district issue or a teacher prep issue? #edchat web20education 5/31/11 12:55 PM Let's integrate toghether #semanticweb and #curation in the classrom, join free #edtech20 #PLN and fill up this http://is.gd/gRonGd #edchat RushaSams 5/31/11 12:55 PM RT @Eduflack I've found that not all tchrs know stndrds 4 crses they tch! And have not looked at common stndrds! #edchat wjputt 5/31/11 12:55 PM RT @malcolmbellamy: teacher ed is just the start I'm still learning how to teach! #edchat stefras 5/31/11 12:55 PM @virtual_teach Not just with students and experienced teachers but with inexperienced teachers as well. What is different? #Edchat rliberni 5/31/11 12:55 PM @delta_dc thank you let us know what they say - thanks for your input #edchat #teachertuesday plnaugle 5/31/11 12:55 PM @mistergesl Attend #ntchat (New Teacher) on Twitter http://bit.ly/ejENJF #edchat zbpipe 5/31/11 12:55 PM Big part of problem in Teacher Ed programs is that they are generally not modeled inquiry based learning. #edchat CTuckerEnglish 5/31/11 12:55 PM IThat would be so interesting & challenging! RT @maryannesacco: Every teaching candidate should exp. in a kindergarten class. #edchat chaddq 5/31/11 12:55 PM @MisterEason You're right, but I think good prep programs give teachers a variety of tools to use. #edchat

sram_socrates 5/31/11 12:55 PM @mbfxc and i am sure your students love you for it and for the great experiences. #edchat - it will be great connecting with u on Skype carneysandoe 5/31/11 12:55 PM Some of both I would assume RT @CTuckerEnglish: So is that blind leading the blind? Or do they both benefit? #edchat EducationSector 5/31/11 12:56 PM RT @tomwhitby: Authentic learning for tchr prep comes at stdnt tchng. Perfection of the craft comes on the job with a lifelong learning perspective #Edchat MisterEason 5/31/11 12:56 PM @chaddq Yes! They definitely help and are more likely to produce more great teachers and are needed #edchat stefras 5/31/11 12:56 PM Hard. All essential. But ineffective. No context. RT @cybraryman1: essential courses if they want to teach? #edchat AndyCobley 5/31/11 12:56 PM RT @ShellTerrell: Fantastic List of 2011 #education conferences worldwide http://bit.ly/mdY1Ha by @seburnt #eltchat #edchat #edchatie #ukedchat #elearning epaopao Good day! 5/31/11 12:56 PM thanks all for the gr8 convo. #edchat

ConservTeachers 5/31/11 12:56 PM @RepJohnKline Statement on Secretary Arne Duncans Visit to Minnesota | http://awe.sm/5LeGB #edchat #education rliberni 5/31/11 12:56 PM @luc_germain I don't know to be honest there is dross (spking as a parent here rater than teacher) but how to change this? #edchat TruthfulTeacher 5/31/11 12:56 PM high rate of attrition 4 new tchrs due 2 lack of opportunity. Not lack of training. New tchrs often stuck in low paying jobs. #edchat. ShellTerrell 5/31/11 12:56 PM @chrisemdin Cool! #edchat

mbfxc 5/31/11 12:56 PM @sram_socrates I'm psyched! Will meet you in person at #iste11 so we'll definitely make the connection! #edchat web20classroom 5/31/11 12:56 PM RT @cybraryman1: Next #edchat (7 pm EST) How do we change the perception, promoted by many that the education system is riddled with incompetent teachers? pamwesely 5/31/11 12:56 PM (2/2) I want to encourage all teachers to always challenge themselves and explore? It can't just be the program's responsibility! #edchat

USCTeacher 5/31/11 12:56 PM @snakel7 The landscape is chnging a bit-we offer an online prgm on an innovative platform - learners all over the world can connect #edchat carneysandoe 5/31/11 12:56 PM @bethanyvsmith Another question worth exploring....who should be responsible for mentoring #edchat brandonhebert 5/31/11 12:56 PM I was an alt cert tchr. Teach Baton Rouge, set up by TNTP. Was prepared as possible. Gr8 network of support! Honest brutal feedback. #edchat urbanschool 5/31/11 12:56 PM RT @TEDxSFED: We are releasing our #TEDxSFED talks one at a time. The @thefreezesf is up first. Enjoy the talk. http://bit.ly/k6QV3b #TEDx #SF #edchat carneysandoe 5/31/11 12:57 PM To cap off a great #edchat Building a Better Teacher: http://nyti.ms/cOqO2A A very long read but a very insightful one as well! sram_socrates 5/31/11 12:57 PM @mbfxc that is great - I can't wait it will be great chatting and planning at #ISTE11 it is going to be amazing #edchat and having fun willrich45 5/31/11 12:57 PM Re: previous LDH quote...how do we get better teaching if we don't redefine what better teaching is first? #chickenandegg #edreform #edchat elenischool 5/31/11 12:57 PM RT @eSchoolNews: Did you miss it? Five ways readers are using iPads in the classroom http://ow.ly/56Ji8 #ipad #elearning #edtech #edchat tomwhitby 5/31/11 12:57 PM Stdnt Tchrs: You can't learn to swim in a gym, you need a swimming Pool. To improve tchrs, we need to improve the student teaching.#Edchat stefras 5/31/11 12:57 PM @mbfxc I like the shadow a student idea. Also shadow a teacher who is not your coop teacher. #edchat B_Porlier 5/31/11 12:57 PM RT @ShellTerrell: Fantastic List of 2011 #education conferences worldwide http://bit.ly/mdY1Ha by @seburnt #eltchat #edchat #edchatie #ukedchat #elearning elenischool 5/31/11 12:57 PM RT @eSchoolNews: Short-throw projectors going extreme in education http://ow.ly/56HCD #edchat #edtech

plnaugle 5/31/11 12:57 PM @zbpipe Hi Zoe. I attend CR 2.0 Live almost every Saturday. Invaluable experience and I have increased my tech integration skills. #edchat epaopao 5/31/11 12:57 PM RT @tomwhitby tip: If you find interesting people in #Edchat, follow them on TWITTER.It will expand & Enhance your Personal Learning Network kegluskin 5/31/11 12:57 PM Hey @SUSchoolofEd RT @cybraryman1: To supplement teacher prep classes encourage all educators to join us on Twitter #edchat MZimmer557 5/31/11 12:57 PM @librarykittie @Akevy613 @mbfxc @NathanSandberg @hoosjon @USCTeacher @stefras @ShellTerrell @CTuckerEnglish @rliberni Great #edchat today stkalcevich 5/31/11 12:57 PM RT @snakel7: Education programs do not promote "new" "fresh ideas" like in other fields. #edchat rliberni 5/31/11 12:57 PM RT @CriticalSkills1: @MmeVachon @tomwhitby Instead of a SpEd class, we should model what good co-teaching and differentiation look like in every class #Edchat inhabitots 5/31/11 12:57 PM RT @PLANETPALS: Have an end of the year school swap - A gr8 way to #recycle http://bit.ly/fAsaFX #teachers #edchat #ece #earlyed #preschool blairteach 5/31/11 12:57 PM @delta_dc Don't know how we can really determine participation, but when I look at profiles/talk to groups, seems like %age very low.#edchat rliberni 5/31/11 12:57 PM RT @RushaSams: We emphasize reallife learning for students -- shouldn't we do the same for prospective teachers? #edchat cybraryman1 5/31/11 12:57 PM To supplement teacher prep classes encourage all educators to join us on Twitter #edchat bethanyvsmith 5/31/11 12:57 PM @rliberni i think we have to be more selective about who becomes a teacher - because not everyone can and should do it. #edchat JulieMushing 5/31/11 12:58 PM Five myths about Americas schools - http://t.co/pJ73JP6 via @washingtonpost #mieducation #edchat rliberni 5/31/11 12:58 PM RT @CTuckerEnglish: So is that blind leading the blind? Or do they both benefit? RT @CarneySandoe: @CarneySandoe #edchat

npf007 5/31/11 12:58 PM RT @cybraryman1: Next #edchat (7 pm EST) How do we change the perception, promoted by many that the education system is riddled with incompetent teachers? rliberni 5/31/11 12:58 PM RT @MisterEason: You can have the best prep program in the world but still produce mediocre teachers if teachers are unwilling to work. #edchat MissKitchener 5/31/11 12:58 PM RT @cliffmanning: Audacity Guide - fun video tutorials ideal for classroom use - http://bit.ly/jLTIuj #ukedchat #edchat #edtech Revenaugh 5/31/11 12:58 PM Check out what students from San Saba High School have to say about #MyBigCampus: http://mbcurl.me/TR #edchat #mbc4all stefras 5/31/11 12:58 PM RT @librarykittie: @cybraryman1 Ed. Advocacy, classroom mgmt & design ... #edchat wjputt 5/31/11 12:58 PM RT @kegluskin: @plnaugle I'm looking for a full-time teaching job. Finding other educators on Twitter has been inspiring for sharing & discussing #edchat web20education 5/31/11 12:58 PM #scoopit the best #curation #edtech20 #edtools in #education20 4 me #elearning #semanticweb #edchat #ukedchat #semtech http://bit.ly/m6fiX7 rliberni 5/31/11 12:58 PM @bethanyvsmith I agree there is much more to being a good teacher than training and turning up - some just can't do the job #edchat rapsa 5/31/11 12:58 PM Robot battles drawing students to high-tech manufacturing: http://ow.ly/56PyP #teacher #edchat #rapsa RushaSams 5/31/11 12:58 PM Thanks for engaging #edchat session today. Compluter is so slow today; thus, so am I!!! MmeVachon 5/31/11 12:58 PM @CriticalSkills1 @tomwhitby hard to summarize an entire course in 140 characters differentiated instr. included #Edchat Tina_Barr 5/31/11 12:58 PM RT @npf007: Let student-teachers remember that teachers should be life-long learners as well. #edchat mbfxc 5/31/11 12:58 PM This hour went by so quickly! Thank you all for some amazing suggestions! I'm on it to make change in higher ed! #edchat npf007 5/31/11 12:58 PM Let student-teachers remember that teachers should be life-long learners as well. #edchat

inquirebook 5/31/11 12:58 PM RT @tomwhitby: Media Literacy should be at the very least incorporated int a Literacy course for teachers. #Edchat MisterEason 5/31/11 12:58 PM RT @tomwhitby: You can't learn to swim in a gym, you need a swimming Pool. To improve tchrs, we need to improve the student teaching.#Edchat epaopao 5/31/11 12:59 PM RT @CTuckerEnglish: http://bit.ly/dLEGJc Teacher designed & facilitated prof dev opportunity for teachers interested in integrating online discussions #edchat QZLPatriotHawk 5/31/11 12:59 PM Time 2 quit procrastinating & get back 2 my paperwork that I'm avoiding or I'll be here all night. Thx 4 another great #edchat. CTuckerEnglish 5/31/11 12:59 PM http://bit.ly/dLEGJc Teacher designed & facilitated prof dev opportunity for teachers interested in integrating online discussions #edchat plnaugle 5/31/11 12:59 PM @kegluskin cngrts on yr graduation. Lived in Syracuse when I went 2 elem sch. gd luck w/ job hunt. Glad U understand power of twttr #edchat specialteaching 5/31/11 12:59 PM RT @CriticalSkills1: @MmeVachon @tomwhitby Instead of a SpEd class, we should model what good co-teaching and differentiation look like in every class #Edchat MisterEason 5/31/11 12:59 PM RT @cybraryman1: Thnx to my wonderful co-mods @rliberni @ShellTerrell & @tomwhitby & all the great participants 4 anthr stimulating #edchat tomwhitby 5/31/11 12:59 PM As always we need to thank @ShellTerrell @rliberni and @cybraryman1 for their #edchat moderation. Thanks to All mbfxc 5/31/11 12:59 PM @stefras Definitely! Its all about perspective. The more you have, the more informed you'll be! #edchat mistergesl 5/31/11 12:59 PM @plnaugle Got it-thank you #edchat

epaopao 5/31/11 12:59 PM RT @cybraryman1: To supplement teacher prep classes encourage all educators to join us on Twitter #edchat USCTeacher 5/31/11 12:59 PM Thanks all - loved the topic. It's so great to hear real/live opinions on this topic! #edchat

rliberni 5/31/11 12:59 PM RT @kegluskin: @chrisemdin not only experience, but recent experience. Having taught 20 years ago isn't the same as schools today! #edchat blairteach 5/31/11 12:59 PM @delta_dc Also may be affected by the #edchat topic. There are more tchr prep ppl participating today than I've ever seen. cybraryman1 5/31/11 12:59 PM Thanks to my wonderful comoderators @rliberni @ShellTerrell & @tomwhitby & all the great participants for another stimulating #edchat maryannesacco 5/31/11 1:00 PM Great for them! RT @CTuckerEnglish This yr my goal to put students in role of teacher guiding their learning. http://bit.ly/k0esSq #edchat knolinfos 5/31/11 1:00 PM RT @web20education: #scoopit the best #curation #edtech20 #edtools in #education20 4 me #elearning #semanticweb #edchat #ukedchat #semtech http://bit.ly/m6fiX7 bethanyvsmith 5/31/11 1:00 PM @CarneySandoe exactly are unis responsible for the teachers they produce or the schools responsible for the teachers they hire #edchat jdthomas7 5/31/11 1:00 PM RT @cliffmanning: Audacity Guide fun video tutorials ideal for classroom use - http://bit.ly/jLTIuj #ukedchat #edchat #edtech mbfxc 5/31/11 1:00 PM @tomwhitby @ShellTerrell @rliberni @cybraryman1 I feel empowered! Thank you for the wonderful #edchat! blairteach 5/31/11 1:00 PM @cybraryman1 Plz give us a reminder. What's the topic for tonight's #edchat going to be? chrisemdin 5/31/11 1:00 PM Many teacher prep courses on innovation & inquiry are delivered via lecture. #oxymoronic #edchat stefras 5/31/11 1:00 PM @tomwhitby I took a sp ed theory class, but again without experience and context, it means nothing. Theory after practical? #edchat USCTeacher 5/31/11 1:00 PM Thanks! RT @tomwhitby: As always we need to thank @ShellTerrell @rliberni and @cybraryman1 for their #edchat moderation. MisterEason 5/31/11 1:00 PM provoking, and intense #edchat Wow! What a great, thought-

carneysandoe 5/31/11 1:00 PM Special thanks to @bethanyvsmith @CTuckerEnglish @RushaSams @CriticalSkills1 @lhoog @delta_dc for the #edchat today wjputt 5/31/11 1:00 PM now as debate is on that. @KnikiDavies You sd be following #edchat

kegluskin 5/31/11 1:00 PM Enjoyed participating in #edchat today. Thanks for the great ideas everyone! BirdLadyatWWK 5/31/11 1:04 PM RT @eLearningGuild: RT @missnoor28: The #eLearning Guild's Handbook of e-Learning Strategy http://bit.ly/lnISTC #edtech #edchat JulieMushing 5/31/11 1:04 PM The Highly Engaged Classroom Webinar (free) http://bit.ly/milf5E from the Marzano Research Laboratory #edchat dbates479 5/31/11 1:04 PM RT @jdthomas7 Audacity Guide Video Tutorials - Look very interesting! http://ow.ly/56PW3 #edchat usamimi74 5/31/11 1:04 PM RT @pschoolsystems: Great blog post about QR Codes in the Classroom! http://bit.ly/ejq1gF #edchat #edtech SAT_GPS 5/31/11 1:04 PM RT @eSchoolNews: Did you miss it? Five ways readers are using iPads in the classroom http://ow.ly/56Ji8 #ipad #elearning #edtech #edchat FCMichigan 5/31/11 1:04 PM RT @ParentingSPD: From play dates to social stories, check out 9 Ways to Boost Your Childs Social Skills http://wp.me/p1l3K9-vg #autism #SPDBN #edchat CELeadership 5/31/11 1:04 PM How does your school encourage students to read during the summer? #edchat #reading LadyElenaUK 5/31/11 1:04 PM Learning #English - Speaking Practice #ESOL from the comfort of your home http://esol.yolasite.com/speakingpractice #esl #edchat #language Mamacita 5/31/11 1:04 PM Too many teachers teach the same thing in the same way, even when the bell rings & the audience changes. Standup would help w. that. #edchat chrisemdin 5/31/11 1:05 PM Teachers, particularly in the early grades, should also focus on the content areas. Early childhood education doesn't mean no STEM #edchat ShellTerrell 5/31/11 1:05 PM Thank you for another thoughtprovoking #edchat & the leadership of @cybraryman1 @rliberni @tomwhitby

PeteCHall 5/31/11 1:05 PM RT @tomwhitby: Teaching programs should include a course specifially for Educational technology tools and social media awareness. #Edchat patysavage 5/31/11 1:05 PM RT @eclassroomnews: Did you miss it? Five ways readers are using iPads in the classroom http://ow.ly/56Jod #ipad #elearning #edtech #edchat pamwesely 5/31/11 1:05 PM Parallel between how the public sees incompetent teachers, and how teachers see incompetent teacher educators? #edchat jdgudger 5/31/11 1:05 PM Need good tweet sorter for iPhone like seesmic or tweetdeck. I like phone better & work comp is blocker/slow #hashtagmafia #edtech #Edchat blairteach 5/31/11 1:05 PM @QZLPatriotHawk At least #edchat provided you w/productive procrastination instead of just wasting your time. :-) ICTEvangelist 5/31/11 1:05 PM RT @missnoor28: Improving Education with free Web 2.0 tools http://bit.ly/gdM9Xd #edtech #edchat #EduJo symphily 5/31/11 1:05 PM RT @davidwees: Philosophy of education, "why do we do this?" should be in every teacher's college. #edchat Mamacita 5/31/11 1:05 PM Standup "experience" would also help teachers deal with the inevitable hecklers. #edchat bethanyvsmith 5/31/11 1:06 PM RT @CarneySandoe: Special thanks to @bethanyvsmith @RushaSams @CriticalSkills1 @lhoog @delta_dc for the #edchat today * Likewise! npf007 5/31/11 1:06 PM RT @ShellTerrell: Thank you for another thought-provoking #edchat & the leadership of @cybraryman1 @rliberni @tomwhitby npf007 5/31/11 1:06 PM 'Twas my first time to be more active in #edchat today! Impressive ideas worth spreading! :D stefras 5/31/11 1:07 PM Yep! RT @MisterEason: If anybody wants to be a good tcher, they will find ways to do so regardless of the adequacy of a prep prgrm. #edchat clikman 5/31/11 1:07 PM RT @davidwees: Every teacher's college should include some preparation for educational technology. #edchat

SadlierSchool 5/31/11 1:07 PM RT @edutopia: New! Encouraging Your Students to Engage in Deeper Thinking http://bit.ly/kQTEiJ #edchat #k12 #ntchat Matt_Arguello5/31/11 1:07 PM The Isle of Tune web site is totally cool: http://bit.ly/eKxNKT Thanks for the link @dancallahan. #edchat #music Ilotimo 5/31/11 1:08 PM web 3.0 The way forward by Steve Wheeler http://slidesha.re/dkBUse #edchat #edtech WeAreTeachers 5/31/11 1:08 PM RT @jdthomas7 & @cliffmanning: Audacity Guide - fun video tutorials ideal for classroom use http://bit.ly/jLTIuj #ukedchat #edchat #edtech mbteach 5/31/11 1:08 PM Join us at 7pm EST for #edchat: How do we change the perception that the education system is riddled w/incompetent teachers? bhsprincipal 5/31/11 1:09 PM RT @tomwhitby: RT @mbteach: Join us at 7 EST for #edchat: How do we change the perception that ed. system is riddled w/incompetent teachers? thecleversheep 5/31/11 1:09 PM @zbpipe Same is true for PD. How many workshops truly engage participants in product creation or authentic inquiry. #edchat SAT_GPS 5/31/11 1:09 PM RT @markbrumley: Needs for Education: Multi User iPads #edtech #edchat http://tiny.ly/mzOn tomwhitby 5/31/11 1:09 PM RT @mbteach: Join us at 7pm EST for #edchat: How do we change the perception that the education system is riddled w/incompetent teachers? SAT_GPS 5/31/11 1:09 PM RT @markbrumley: Student Designed E-books: Challenge Based Learning #edtech #edchat http://tiny.ly/UOIr stefras 5/31/11 #edchat. 1:09 PM @Caro_lann Get bak to you. Have ideas but in

ShellTerrell 5/31/11 1:10 PM RT @tomwhitby: RT @mbteach: Join us at 7pm EST for #edchat: How do we change the perception that the education system is riddled w/incompetent teachers? cuevash 5/31/11 1:10 PM @bethanyvsmith Tchr prep is the issue. Can u imagine a stdnt in med school not being exposed to tech that assists w diagnosis #edchat

ljconrad 5/31/11 1:10 PM 'The Never-ending Questions' post from Alina Adams #gted #gtchat #edchat #ptchat #parenting http://fb.me/YNME88Ph juandoming 5/31/11 1:10 PM RT @juanigncastro: RT @juandoming: Twitter Reading List http://bit.ly/4hNNz Resources of #Twitter by @c4LPT @jdthomas7 #edchat #education #web20 #odite pschoolsystems 5/31/11 1:10 PM Common-Standards States Building Online Resource Site for Teachers http://bit.ly/m3aV5K #edchat #edweek #edtech #commoncorestandards Write_To_Learn 5/31/11 1:10 PM 4. Range of Writing from extended time frames to a single sitting. #WritetoLearn #edchat #commoncorestandards TheBooksource 5/31/11 1:10 PM We searched, we scored! Our blog of the day "Summer Professional Development" #edchat http://ow.ly/56Msy DanaArthurs 5/31/11 1:11 PM #edchat teacher colleges needs to include strategies for regular, ongoing, effective, engaged communication with the students home eLearning_softw 5/31/11 1:11 PM Back to School with Web 2.0 Part 2 : http://goo.gl/tgdW #lms #web20 #edchat web20education 5/31/11 1:11 PM Thanks wonderful moderators @rliberni @ShellTerrell @cybraryman1 @tomwhitby Do you want scoopit invitations :) http://bit.ly/m6fiX7 #edchat MWeser 5/31/11 1:12 PM Will My 3rd Graders Be Educated When They Grow Up? | Powerful Learning Practice http://bit.ly/kSCL82 #edtech #edchat #elementary damiendeakes 5/31/11 1:12 PM RT @missnoor28: Improving Education with free Web 2.0 tools http://bit.ly/gdM9Xd #edtech #edchat #EduJo cuevash 5/31/11 1:12 PM @CarneySandoe Mentoring is useful only if the mentor is a master teacher. But longevity does not equal master teacher. #edchat EduTechNerd 5/31/11 1:12 PM RT @pschoolsystems: CommonStandards States Building Online Resource Site for Teachers http://bit.ly/m3aV5K #edchat #edweek #edtech #commoncorestandards

stefras 5/31/11 1:12 PM @bethanyvsmith 1st year mentor should be both school and teacher prep issue. Part of teacher prep. Can't prep in isol of schools. #edchat pamwesely 5/31/11 1:12 PM Thanks for #edchat today - lots of great ideas (and things to think about) for this new(ish) teacher educator. plnaugle 5/31/11 1:12 PM @zbpipe vry willing 2 Skype w/ any of yr students at any time 2. Tell them abt #rscon3 happening end of July. Gr8 online conf. #edchat rileylark 5/31/11 1:13 PM RT @mbteach: Join us at 7pm EST for #edchat: How do we change the perception that the education system is riddled w/incompetent teachers? ransomtech 5/31/11 1:13 PM @zbpipe Inquiry is not compatible with passive information consumption and "covering the content" #edchat VideoAmy 5/31/11 1:14 PM RT @WeAreTeachers: RT @jdthomas7 & @cliffmanning: Audacity Guide - fun video tutorials ideal for classroom use http://bit.ly/jLTIuj #ukedchat #edchat #edtech cuevash 5/31/11 1:14 PM @bethanyvsmith Some teachers are just truly gifted. They get it, they're passionate, empathetic, and can teach almost any subject. #edchat davidwees 5/31/11 1:14 PM New post: People who do evil things in the world http://wees.it/px #edchat #BCed AaahtheGreat 5/31/11 1:14 PM RT @chrisemdin: Teacher prep is missing metacognitive reflection. Teachers must learn to think about how & why they teach the way they do #edchat stefras 5/31/11 1:14 PM @pamwesely Yes, but I know of no alternative way to replace antiquated prep. Tech is a tool not a prep. #edchat zbpipe 5/31/11 1:15 PM #brocktechies @plnaugle:vry willing 2 Skype w/ any of yr students any time 2. Tell them abt #rscon3 end of July. Gr8 online conf. #edchat MisterEason 5/31/11 1:15 PM Is there a way to sync tweetdeck on the many devices that I have it on? #edchat jenmardunc 5/31/11 1:15 PM RT @eclassroomnews: 5 ways readers are using iPads in the classroom http://ow.ly/56Jod #ipad #edtech #edchat educationdebate 5/31/11 1:15 PM #Teachers implement change from the ground up http://allyp.co/56Io5 #edchat (via @educationweek)

SublimeLearning 5/31/11 1:15 PM A guide to effective team #teaching http://ht.ly/56MNM (via @edutopia) #edchat #teachers #profdev kristoferrios 5/31/11 1:15 PM By youth of @followPPH! RT @NewsHourExtra: New videos from student reporting labs on the #dropout rate: http://bit.ly/98rHgO #edchat andycinek 5/31/11 1:16 PM Wikipedia improves students' work http://t.co/Be6JDty via @physorg_com #edchat MisterEason 5/31/11 1:16 PM My New Interest in Alfie Kohn: http://t.co/fdzrV3u #edchat #ecosys #sschat #edreform followpph 5/31/11 1:16 PM Check out this piece by RadioRootz @NewsHourExtra: New videos from student reporting labs on the #dropout rate: http://bit.ly/98rHgO #edchat SaraBelliveau 5/31/11 1:16 PM RT @teachersnet: What's in your toolbox [educators]? http://bit.ly/lMoL62 #edchat #edadmin Rekaloan 5/31/11 1:16 PM Assessment in Game-Based Learning: http://t.co/2hraFGf #elearning #edtech #IOT1 #education #edu #teaching #edchat #math #maths #mathchat lizjmeyer 5/31/11 1:17 PM MT @tomwhitby teacher prep might improve if coop teachers were trained on what 2 do w/student teachers. #Edchat - mentor programs needed! Rekaloan 5/31/11 1:17 PM Where There's Power in Numbers: http://t.co/d6pCWFi #math #maths #mathchat #IOT1 #teaching #education #edu #edtech #edchat CanuckEduS 5/31/11 1:17 PM via @daivdwees People who do evil things in the world http://bit.ly/mzKYc2 #edchat McGough3R 5/31/11 1:17 PM PLS RT. Sorry #SPNchat ppl...here is a new link 4 our reading 4 tonight's session @9pm(EST.) http://tinyurl.com/446hhyt D_Macionis 5/31/11 1:17 PM RT @c_marsh35: I would like to see all college level ed courses taught using learning stategies. Professors should model what good teachers do #edchat mmittels 5/31/11 1:17 PM RT @cliffmanning: Audacity Guide fun video tutorials ideal for classroom use - http://bit.ly/jLTIuj #ukedchat #edchat #edtech

Thanks2Teachers 5/31/11 1:18 PM Firing teachers & hiring temps won't fix an economy nearly destroyed by wealthy financial hucksters. But it'll destroy public ed! #edchat MisterEason 5/31/11 1:18 PM Adventures in online teaching: Trusting students to learn http://t.co/iMWa4Di #edchat bringingupboys 5/31/11 1:18 PM RT @tomwhitby: College classes can make good teachers. Great teachers are made from their own classes. #Edchat edutopiahubert 5/31/11 1:18 PM RT @edutopia: New wkly giveaway: Online vocabulary development bundle: http://bit.ly/cjzaqe #ntchat #edchat #education stefras 5/31/11 1:18 PM What is better teaching? Who decides? I think it should be combo of kids and society. What criteria should measure? #edchat firstborn_ocean 5/31/11 1:18 PM Lkg for decent sites for info related to Red River Resistance/Louis Riel, etc that would work for gr 7? #pwsd #edchat #mptc cb717 5/31/11 1:18 PM Reading thru #edchat re: teacher prep & thankful for @skajder --- such an awesome teacher/mentor sondralongo 5/31/11 1:23 PM @ericjuli Speaks to teaching from a socio-econ strata unfamiliar to s's. Be middle-class for 7hrs a day, half the year? Make sense? #edchat stefras 5/31/11 1:23 PM @earlsamuelson I also misunderstood what you were referring to. "nightmare" coop teachers vs grades & ability #edchat brooker1015 5/31/11 1:23 PM #edtech http://t.co/vWxDncx Picture of the day. Circa....? #edchat

deborahrecord 5/31/11 1:23 PM RT @cliffmanning: Audacity Guide - fun video tutorials ideal for classroom use - http://bit.ly/jLTIuj #ukedchat #edchat #edtech ginrob_pt 5/31/11 1:23 PM Hours of fun!? --RT @missnoor28: RT @daveandcori: The Periodic Table of Videos - great resource! http://goo.gl/fb/LqI9O #edtech, #edchat LearnBoost 5/31/11 1:23 PM [guest post] 10 reasons to teach financial literacy in schools by @EmergingEdTech http://cot.ag/iW2NZC #edchat Weesau 5/31/11 1:24 PM RT @Ilotimo: web 3.0 The way forward by Steve Wheeler http://slidesha.re/dkBUse #edchat #edtech

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inquirebook 5/31/11 1:25 PM Thanks for a great #edchat @QZLPatriotHawk @CTuckerEnglish @ShellTerrell @pamweseley @rkiker @knolinfos @Sharvey85 @MZimmer557 @snakel7 LesLinks 5/31/11 1:25 PM http://tinyurl.com/4yb3ky6 This is neat... #gtchat #gtvoice #gifted #edchat #edchatie McGough3R 5/31/11 1:25 PM @LesLinks Would like 2 invite U 2 join #SPNchat tonight @9pm(EST.) We R reading and discussing http://tinyurl.com/446hhyt stefras 5/31/11 1:25 PM @QZLPatriotHawk That was a very fast #edchat. Everytime I typed something I fell two screens behind. Never did catch up! cbell619 5/31/11 1:25 PM RT @plnaugle: Preservice teachers should have to attend online webinars like Classroom 2.0 Live on their own. #edchat stefras 5/31/11 1:26 PM exemplars? #edchat @cybraryman1 Nice topic. Advertise with

TeachMoore 5/31/11 1:26 PM RT @bhsprincipal: RT @tomwhitby: RT @mbteach: Join us at 7 EST for #edchat: How do we change the perception that ed. system is riddled w/incompetent teachers? summersk0 5/31/11 1:27 PM RT @Thanks2Teachers: Firing teachers & hiring temps won't fix an economy nearly destroyed by wealthy financial hucksters. But it'll destroy public ed! #edchat ChanealDenise 5/31/11 1:27 PM RT @chrisemdin: Teachers of teachers MUST have be required to have experience in the classroom. You can't teach what you haven't lived #edchat McGough3R 5/31/11 1:27 PM @DrTimony Hope 2 see U tonight at #SPNchat. We R discussing the recent Thiel anti-college scholarships. http://tinyurl.com/446hhyt #edchat firstborn_ocean 5/31/11 1:28 PM RT @carneysandoe: RT @lhoog: Knowing students as ind. & bringing real world in2 the classrm. We need 2 connect stud. w/others arnd the globe. #edchat :-) allisonletts 5/31/11 1:28 PM RT @hglasser: Why Twitter Is a Teacher's Best Tool http://ow.ly/50kYw How do you & your colleagues use Twitter in your work? #edchat #mathed

txtnlrn 5/31/11 1:28 PM RT @inquirebook: I learned this pacing model: 10 minutes of instruction, 10 minutes of application, 10 minutes of discussion. #edchat McGough3R 5/31/11 1:29 PM @nesticos I have a notion that really good teachers are born with a proclivity to reach students. #edchat #SPNchat kaminskiterry 5/31/11 1:29 PM RT @davidwees: Every teacher's college should include some preparation for educational technology. #edchat mmenne 5/31/11 1:29 PM RT @tomwhitby: College classes can make good teachers. Great teachers are made from their own classes. #Edchat mattspaur 5/31/11 1:29 PM RT @NextGenLC: Academics, in New Move, Begin to Work With Wikipedia http://ow.ly/56Lzt #edtech #edchat stefras 5/31/11 1:29 PM I hope I'm not one of them. ;-) RT @davidwees: New post: People who do evil things in the world http://wees.it/px #edchat #BCed firstborn_ocean 5/31/11 1:29 PM RT @carneysandoe: RT @JohnPassantino: Student engagement is key. Best teaching techniques will not reach the disengaged student. #edchat nesticos 5/31/11 1:29 PM Absolutely! RT @MisterEason: If anybody wants to be a good tcher, they'll find ways to do so regardless of adequacy of prep prgrm. #edchat firstborn_ocean 5/31/11 1:30 PM RT @davidwees: If our classrooms are supposed to be student centred, so too should our teacher colleges. #edchat McGough3R 5/31/11 1:30 PM @mmenne Could use your unique P.O.V. over at #SPNchat at 9pm tonight. We are reading http://tinyurl.com/446hhyt #edchat pschoolsystems 5/31/11 1:30 PM We are announcing to our customers (and the world) the release date of PowerSchool 7.0: Friday, June 24th! http://bit.ly/jG4zdR #edchat username date time status

JorgeSampaio79 2/22/11 7:00 PM RT @stumpteacher Anyone new to #edchat or #tweetdeck , this might be a good start for you http://bit.ly/fxnHRQ

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mikevigilant 2/22/11 7:00 PM #edchat I think one of the real issues isn't school-level supprort, it's DISTRICT-level. Especially for lager districts like mine. reasoningmind 2/22/11 7:00 PM @isteconnects so what is stopping a city like Detroit from implementing real education reform? #Edchat briankotts 2/22/11 7:00 PM 10 Reasons You Should Be Teaching Online http://bit.ly/fFnunV /via @Edudemic #edtech #elearning #edchat mmarotta 2/22/11 7:00 PM RT @tomwhitby: Teachers need to model for their students. If we are using Blogs to teach, we should be blogging. It gives value to what we do. #Edchat hshawjr 2/22/11 7:00 PM Have to decide on #edchat or webinar on Google sites, what is #edchat topic tonight? kylepace 2/22/11 7:00 PM Welcome to #edchat. Thanks for being here! Tonight's topic: What are the real issues surrounding Education Reform? 2footgiraffe 2/22/11 7:01 PM RT @k2quiere: Biggest issue??? The wrong people in charge of the debate. Teachers need to stand up and become the leading voices #edchat kylepace 2/22/11 7:01 PM just change in general? #edchat @2footgiraffe To change anything or

isteconnects 2/22/11 7:01 PM Support for teachers. Imagine if we questioned drs, lawyers, corp. types the way we do public school teachers #edchat k2quiere 2/22/11 7:01 PM Biggest issue??? The wrong people in charge of the debate. Teachers need to stand up and become the leading voices #edchat 2footgiraffe 2/22/11 7:01 PM Bigwigs are not willing to admit what they have been pushing doesn't work #edchat jakramer2 2/22/11 7:01 PM #edchat Educational Reform issue: Getting "experienced" teachers to buy into trying new things (ie. technology, team teaching, etc) wlweber 2/22/11 7:01 PM Do the people responsible for reforming education actually understand how it works? #edchat

makeafuture 2/22/11 7:01 PM Hot Job in Public Schools! Superintendent, Qualicum School District http://bit.ly/eZshF1 #BCed #edchat #cpchat #jobs mikevigilant 2/22/11 7:01 PM #edchat You can only do so much in your school, but if the central office doesn't buy in, you might get slapped down. stumpteacher 2/22/11 7:01 PM Also tough to reform when teachers are being blamed for the problems in the world #edchat stumpteacher 2/22/11 7:01 PM Personally, I think the news/media/government is a big problem. Tough to reform education without support and funding #edchat mikevigilant 2/22/11 7:02 PM Our district is highly-structured and very top-driven, so opportunities for change are limited without higher support #edchat rjwassink 2/22/11 7:02 PM Trying to convince voting taxpayers and school boards that the world has changed; cursive and keyboarding aren't cutting edge. #edchat web20classroom 2/22/11 7:02 PM is little poverty no reform is need? #edchat @fliegs So in areas where there

2footgiraffe 2/22/11 7:02 PM @kylepace a little of both i think. ppl like to stick with what they know even if it is not effective #edchat kylepace 2/22/11 7:02 PM RT @fliegs: The real issue for Ed reform is poverty. Everything else is commentary. #edchat 1nbm 2/22/11 7:02 PM One of the most significant issues is the open vs controlled debate. Who decides what "education" is, and what it is for? #edchat techsavvyed 2/22/11 7:02 PM @isteconnects We do question lawyers, Drs, and Corporate types, we just don't have the same control over them as teachers #edchat fliegs 2/22/11 7:02 PM The real issue for Ed reform is poverty. Everything else is commentary. #edchat stumpteacher 2/22/11 7:02 PM @isteconnects Exactly...and questioned every thing they did and blamed them for problems in the world... #edchat mikevigilant 2/22/11 7:03 PM #edchat The ship moves more slowly when there are more people on it. It's a chance for small districts to really lead the way on reform.

davidwees 2/22/11 7:03 PM The Singularity is coming... IBM Watson Jeopardy Full Episode (Day 1) http://t.co/5E68M94 #edchat markbarnes19 2/22/11 7:03 PM And Ohio

edtechsteve 2/22/11 7:03 PM I think the real issue in education (and all other kinds of) reform is poverty. #edchat cspiezio 2/22/11 7:03 PM RT @erinneo: I think part of the problem is no communication between the practitioners and the theorists #edchat jrwolfe 2/22/11 7:03 PM @techsavvyed lawyers, Dcts etc. are not employed by the public, either. Do not have to respond to public demands #edchat TechCzech 2/22/11 7:03 PM Tinkering toward Utopia great read on the challenges facing educational reform going back over a century http://ow.ly/41uNP #edchat stumpteacher 2/22/11 7:03 PM @web20classroom @fliegs Exactly, while poverty is an issue...reform is needed everywhere. Some more than others. #edchat erinneo 2/22/11 7:03 PM I think part of the problem is no communication between the practitioners and the theorists #edchat markbarnes19 2/22/11 7:03 PM Some states like Wisconsin are in crisis. I'm all about reform, but for now we have to ward off elimination of collective bargaining #edchat MiddleGrdReads 2/22/11 7:03 PM RT @isteconnects: Detroit ordered to close half their schools. High school class sizes will jump to 60 kids. This is crazy. http://huff.to/eBRcry #edchat kylepace 2/22/11 7:04 PM @edtechsteve You and @fliegs both mentioned poverty. I do agree it's an issue but can you say more? #edchat 2footgiraffe 2/22/11 7:04 PM poverty affect reform? #edchat @edtechsteve Clue me in. how does

WendyE40 2/22/11 7:04 PM RT @ambikadani: the quality of teacher certification programs is another HUGE issue in edcuation #edchat rjwassink 2/22/11 7:04 PM .@mikevigilant The best way to get the central office on board is to show them a successful attempt in a smaller setting #edchat

web20classroom 2/22/11 7:04 PM Maybe the problem in Education Reform is that we don't know what needs reforming... #edchat ambikadani 2/22/11 7:04 PM the quality of teacher certification programs is another HUGE issue in edcuation #edchat fliegs 2/22/11 7:04 PM @web20classroom @fliegs In wealthier areas, schools are not failing the same way. They dont need reform. #edchat hshawjr 2/22/11 7:04 PM Is EdReform about labor or education - it seems today it is about labor relations #edchat jrwolfe 2/22/11 7:04 PM RT @1nbm: One of the most significant issues is the open vs controlled debate. Who decides what "education" is, and what it is for? #edchat reasoningmind 2/22/11 7:04 PM I'd like to hear more about this RT @edtechsteve: I think the real issue in education (and all other kinds of) reform is poverty. #edchat 2footgiraffe 2/22/11 7:04 PM RT @mikevigilant: #edchat The ship moves more slowly when thr R more ppl on it. It's a chance 4 small district (cont) http://deck.ly/~BZWGM ppoulin 2/22/11 7:05 PM RT @erinneo: I think part of the problem is no communication between the practitioners and the theorists #edchat kylepace 2/22/11 7:05 PM RT @web20classroom: Maybe the problem in Education Reform is that we don't know what needs reforming... #edchat fliegs 2/22/11 7:05 PM @kylepace Poverty causes students to get to school less prepared in every way. #edchat neilstephenson 2/22/11 7:05 PM @web20classroom agree.. too many conflicting ideas about what the whole shooting match is actually for #edchat web20classroom 2/22/11 7:05 PM @fliegs Hum. Not sure I see it that way. I do believe poverty is a problem but I think its only part of the problem. #edchat TheTechEducator 2/22/11 7:05 PM RT @stumpteacher: Anyone new to #edchat or #tweetdeck , this might be a good start for you http://bit.ly/fxnHRQ tim_yocum 2/22/11 7:05 PM RT @stumpteacher: Anyone new to #edchat or #tweetdeck , this might be a good start for you http://bit.ly/fxnHRQ

ksivick2/22/11 7:05 PM money/power #edchat

real issue? doesn't it always come down to

stumpteacher 2/22/11 7:05 PM I think that the level of reform needed is not universal. Some need more/different than others. #edchat j_allen 2/22/11 7:05 PM @web20classroom Not that we don't know, it's we can't agree. Like, I love @fliegs, but can't fully agree that "poverty" is the prob. #edchat m_hattaway 2/22/11 7:05 PM RT @isteconnects: Support for teachers. Imagine if we questioned drs, lawyers, corp. types the way we do public school teachers #edchat brianDowd 2/22/11 7:05 PM education reform begins with administration. They must see the value which begins with successes in the classroom #edchat mrarakaki 2/22/11 7:05 PM RT @web20classroom: Maybe the problem in Education Reform is that we don't know what needs reforming... #edchat erinneo 2/22/11 7:05 PM RT @web20classroom: Maybe the problem in Education Reform is that we don't know what needs reforming... #edchat reasoningmind 2/22/11 7:05 PM RT @web20classroom: Maybe the problem in Education Reform is that we don't know what needs reforming... #edchat markbarnes19 in some states 2/22/11 7:05 PM sadly it's about labor relations

mikevigilant 2/22/11 7:05 PM RT @web20classroom: Maybe the problem in Education Reform is that we don't know what needs reforming... #edchat fliegs 2/22/11 7:05 PM @stumpteacher I do not think Ed reform of the political type is needed in most wealthy or even middle class districts. #edchat edtechsteve 2/22/11 7:06 PM @2footgiraffe If we could attack the issue of generational poverty, we could actually teach the 25+% of students that are worst off #edchat jakramer2 2/22/11 of the biggest obstacles. 7:06 PM #edchat The fear of change can be one

bkuhn 2/22/11 7:06 PM @davidwees Watson isn't quite "the singularity" - that is set for 2049 according to others #edchat web20classroom 2/22/11 7:06 PM @Neilstephenson And I think that goes back to whats broken here might not be there. Manying trying to lump all problems together. #edchat stumpteacher 2/22/11 7:06 PM @fliegs I see what you are saying but is poverty the problem or just another symptom? #edchat fliegs 2/22/11 7:06 PM @j_allen I love you too. Look at test scores. Find me a failing school that is in a wealthy district. Doesnt exist. #edchat mrami2 2/22/11 7:06 PM answer that is clear, simple, and wrong. For every complex problem there is an

Akevy613 2/22/11 7:06 PM Personally I think we could only change what is in our control. One class/one school at a time #edchat (1of2) kylepace 2/22/11 7:06 PM @stumpteacher I think the more we try to cookie cutter #edreform, the worse off we'll be. #edchat mikevigilant 2/22/11 7:06 PM @RjWassink But you have to get that smaller setting to begin with--if you're in a highly structured district that might be difficult #edchat reasoningmind 2/22/11 7:06 PM RT @fliegs: @kylepace Poverty causes students to get to school less prepared in every way. #edchat so what do we do? WendyE40 2/22/11 7:06 PM RT @B_Wagoner: Maybe the real problem is that most reform is simply tinkering around the edges of a broken system. That's not going to work. #edchat d_martin05 2/22/11 7:06 PM What kind of teacher are you? http://t.co/Cx6OEx4 #edchat #abed #mathchat WendyE40 2/22/11 7:06 PM another issue in ed reform is divergent ideas about what the ideal should look like #edchat. B_Wagoner 2/22/11 7:06 PM Maybe the real problem is that most reform is simply tinkering around the edges of a broken system. That's not going to work. #edchat rjwassink 2/22/11 7:06 PM .@web20classroom Good point. Are we focusing too much on the end product and less on the procedure?

jrwolfe 2/22/11 7:06 PM @ambikadani I completely agree how do we expect #edreform when we don't change the way we educate our teachers? #edchat j_allen 2/22/11 7:07 PM @fliegs Then maybe our disagreement revolves around what "failing" means? #edchat I do see your point. Taught in one of those schools. ambikadani 2/22/11 7:07 PM poverty may be an issue, but the pedagogy of poverty is an even bigger one #edchat ksivick2/22/11 7:07 PM we could attack many of the issues if we had parent support, is anyone at home paying attention? #edchat mbteach 2/22/11 7:07 PM RT @kylepace: @stumpteacher I think the more we try to cookie cutter #edreform, the worse off we'll be. #edchat reasoningmind 2/22/11 7:07 PM @kylepace there are some issues that are fairly common across the nation, no? #Edchat jrwolfe 2/22/11 7:07 PM @hshawjr There is definitely a need to look at the rights of teachers and their control over their own classroom #edchat B_Wagoner 2/22/11 7:07 PM I think a factor that slows us down is our fear of harming kids while we make major changes. Progress is messy. Kids are at stake. #edchat web20classroom #edchat 2/22/11 7:07 PM @darcymullin @fliegs Agreed.

rjwassink 2/22/11 7:07 PM I refuse to blame it on the unions; however it can't be argued that they sometimes do limit the creativeness of school programs #edchat markbarnes19 2/22/11 7:07 PM until we stop standardized testing, there is no real teaching and learning #edchat ShellTerrell 2/22/11 7:07 PM via @profesortbaker Connectivism and English Language Teaching: Why Do We Connect? #CCK11 #ELTchat http://bit.ly/hEVAku #edchat Blog4Edu 2/22/11 7:07 PM via @profesortbaker Connectivism and English Language Teaching: Why Do We Connect? #CCK11 #ELTchat http://bit.ly/hEVAku #edchat web20classroom 2/22/11 7:07 PM @RjWassink I think so. We all want the same goal. The problem comes when trying to apply one model everywhere to get there. #edchat

fliegs 2/22/11 7:07 PM @stumpteacher Poverty is the problem (maybe also a symptom of non-ed things too) #edchat mbteach 2/22/11 7:07 PM Sorry I'm late everyone. Tonight's topic is so broad, let's start at the National Level and then zoom in #edchat mbteach 2/22/11 7:07 PM Sorry I'm late everyone. Tonight's topic is so broad, let's start at the National Level and then zoom in #edchat TechCzech 2/22/11 7:07 PM One of the factors hindering reforms according to Tyack&Cuban is the persistence of the "grammar of schooling" http://ow.ly/41uQt #edchat stumpteacher 2/22/11 7:07 PM @kylepace Yes, which is why country/state wide decisions often miss the mark #edchat tim_yocum 2/22/11 7:08 PM Reform is taking the sage on the stage and helping them create a collaborative, problem solving learning community in the classroom #edchat hshawjr 2/22/11 7:08 PM turned out pretty reasonably #edchat @B_Wagoner look at most of us, we

sammorra 2/22/11 7:08 PM Ed reform has become twisted into a political issue where grandstanding overshadows the needs of our students. #edchat rjwassink 2/22/11 7:08 PM @mbteach even trying to define "Ed Reform" is tough - there are so many angles to take at it. #edchat neilstephenson 2/22/11 7:08 PM .@web20classroom example.. I was part of an amazing planning session for math a week ago. Required no tech/no 21stC blah blah blah.. #edchat WendyE40 2/22/11 7:08 PM @mbteach @kylepace @stumpteacher and yet everyone is looking for AN answer or copying sthing that worked. not best plan, but happens #edchat hshawjr 2/22/11 7:08 PM What educational reforms are in teachers control at this time? Just what we actually do with our students in our classrooms #edchat B_Wagoner 2/22/11 7:08 PM But the truth is that most kids will be fine in spite of us. They have been for a long time. #edchat wendyuow 2/22/11 7:08 PM RT @oerglue: RT @geoffcain: OER University: history in the making: http://bit.ly/gDmWfV

krusesclassroom 2/22/11 7:08 PM Isn't one of the issues is that we try to impose 1 type of "reform" to evry school without looking at the issues that school has? #edchat kylepace 2/22/11 7:08 PM RT @B_Wagoner: I think a factor that slows us down is our fear of harming kids while we make major changes. Progress is messy. Kids are at stake. #edchat elephantsgerald 2/22/11 7:08 PM 4 the next hr my tweets r dedicated 2 #edchat, a free live professional development w some of the world's most enthusiastic & cool educators cspiezio 2/22/11 7:08 PM @ksivick I think most of them are, but just dont know how to participate, help, or even learn they new literacies! #edchat web20classroom 2/22/11 7:08 PM @j_allen @fliegs Yep me too :) Poverty is a problem. Definitely part of it in some places. But I dont think its the end all be all. #edchat stumpteacher 2/22/11 7:08 PM @fliegs I will agree that it is "A" problem but not "THE" problem. Many problems - teacher burnout, standardized testing, funding #edchat tearoof 2/22/11 7:08 PM RT @ambikadani: poverty may be an issue, but the pedagogy of poverty is an even bigger one #edchat j_allen 2/22/11 7:08 PM RT @B_Wagoner: I think a factor that slows us down is our fear of harming kids while we make major changes. Progress is messy. Kids are at stake. #edchat malynmawby 2/22/11 7:08 PM @web20classroom actually we do & it's gargantuan comprising socio-cultural & economic evn political issues. flip to too-hard-basket #edchat mbteach 2/22/11 7:08 PM Can #edreform be a National effort or does it need to be localized? Happy medium? #edchat k2quiere 2/22/11 7:08 PM But just placing blame on poverty is like throwing up our hands...I think we can do better than that #edchat jakramer2 2/22/11 7:08 PM #edchat Reform is possible, but it needs to not happen with companies wining and dining admin to buy their product. fliegs 2/22/11 7:08 PM @reasoningmind We vote for folks who will tackle the important issues such as ending poverty. Make living in USA easier #edchat

mikevigilant 2/22/11 7:09 PM #edchat A high-stakes test in GA determines whether our kids pass--if WE make an error THEY are hurt; knowing that, how do we make change? web20classroom 2/22/11 7:09 PM @malynmawby But because it is gargantuan isn't it easy to loose focus and not really know what needs changing? #edchat fliegs 2/22/11 7:09 PM @stumpteacher Sure those things are tough. But, the impact of them in a wealthy school is miniscule. Impact in a poor school huge #edchat stumpteacher 2/22/11 7:09 PM question but a good one. #edchat jrwolfe 2/22/11 7:09 PM @jrwolfe @mbteach @kylepace tough @k2quiere #amen #edchat

k2quiere 2/22/11 7:09 PM Like someone said, the cookie cutter, factory mentality is not working anymore...the world is too big for that #edchat j_allen 2/22/11 7:09 PM @fliegs Just because a school passes state test doesn't make it "model" school. Just because one doesn't- can still be "successful." #edchat edtechsteve 2/22/11 7:09 PM @WendyE40 @mbteach @kylepace @stumpteacher Always beware of anyone selling "scaleability" #edchat B_Wagoner 2/22/11 7:09 PM And the students who haven't been fine in spite of us won't be fine until we overhaul the system. #edchat MarkMNW 2/22/11 7:09 PM The fact that we can no longer afford the current system will drive change as much as anything else--technology is more efficient #edchat jakramer2 2/22/11 7:09 PM parents I haven't even met this year! @ksivick #edchat So true! Some of my

ktenkely 2/22/11 7:09 PM @web20classroom Or maybe that there is so much that needs reforming? Like the whole system? #edchat helpourschools 2/22/11 7:09 PM if poverty the main issue, let's learn from high poverty / high performing schools. it's happening. #edchat erinneo 2/22/11 7:09 PM RT @markbarnes19: until we stop standardized testing, there is no real teaching and learning #edchat AVMaltese 2/22/11 7:09 PM RT @ManoMarks: From the Google Earth Blog, Resources for the latest Christchurch earthquake: http://goo.gl/tal5t #scichat #edchat

jrwolfe 2/22/11 7:09 PM @mbteach @kylepace @stumpteacher At which level is consistency in #edreform expected? District level? #edreform #edchat Tekkietalk 2/22/11 7:10 PM @web20classroom @malynmawby Exactly! Too large of a concept-small steps are the answer #edchat kylepace 2/22/11 7:10 PM @hshawjr Some may know what locally needs reforming but don't we have to start somewhere? #edchat malynmawby 2/22/11 7:10 PM @web20classroom Ed Reform is "demanded" w/in and outside the ed industry. it is in a way multi-focus and that's a problem in itself #edchat TechCzech 2/22/11 7:10 PM @lousylinguist Agree. But even the impact of tools is often overstated. Videos in the classroom, computers, CDROMs, iPads, ...? #edchat jakramer2 2/22/11 7:10 PM is chatting on here in #edchat ! I think one part of educational reform

stumpteacher 2/22/11 7:10 PM @ktenkely @mbteach @kylepace There is not one single thing wrong so we can't look for one single solution #edchat fliegs 2/22/11 7:10 PM @j_allen Clearly. State tests are a poor indicator of learning or quality schooling. But, we are stuck with them for now. #edchat web20classroom 2/22/11 7:10 PM @ktenkely Maybe. But I think there are bright spots that don't get the focus they need or deserve. #edchat smcclements 2/22/11 7:10 PM RT @sammorra: Ed reform has become twisted into a political issue where grandstanding overshadows the needs of our students. #edchat profejh 2/22/11 7:10 PM RT @CATeachersAssoc: RT @coopmike48: Unbelievable Outpouring of Solidarity http://bit.ly/hsTbDi #edchat #wiunion #1u elephantsgerald 2/22/11 7:10 PM after watching 17 yrs of 'reform', what works is admin dedication & buy in. What doesn't- glossy shallow w/out training. #edchat WendyE40 2/22/11 7:10 PM @edtechsteve agreed. And folks are legitimately looking at what worked 1 place to use as a model. It's messy. #edchat

rjwassink 2/22/11 7:10 PM @hshawjr @B_Wagoner "We" turned out reasonable indeed... But past success can't point to promised future successes. #edchat YearofScienceBC 2/22/11 7:10 PM All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. http://ow.ly/40sZK #scichat #edchat #elemchat 40201791471763456 stumpteacher 2/22/2011 7:10 PM @fliegs It just depends on the school/area. Problems are everywhere, they just look different. #edchat 40201784190439424 ktenkely 2/22/2011 7:10 PM @mbteach @kylepace @stumpteacher Seems to me that #edreform is hard to narrow down because so contributing to the problems #edchat 40201784450355200 schoolnet 2/22/2011 7:10 PM Autistic Children Help at Coffee Shop in NJ School from @nytimes #edchat #sped http://ow.ly/415jT 40201767287267328 markbarnes19 2/22/2011 7:10 PM Change has to come one piece at a time; eliminate testing, and one hurdle is down #edchat 40201753735593984 jrwolfe 2/22/2011 7:10 PM @stumpteacher @fliegs I agree, esp. teacher burnout. How can we find more creative ways (than pay) to spark motivation? #edchat 40201750812172288 hshawjr 2/22/2011 7:10 PM It does come down to economics in the end, in this era of shrinking budgets where do we taxpayers get the biggest bang for our bucks #edchat 40201750828941312 sfillner 2/22/2011 7:10 PM @B_Wagoner absolutely agree! Many stokers in the fire doesn't always make it burn brighter #edchat 40201732906553344 mrami2 2/22/2011 7:10 PM Maybe we should look at ideas that are working in education and learn from them. #edreform #edchat 40201727395233792 web20classroom 2/22/2011 7:10 PM @Neilstephenson Sure. And I think there is a lot of that going on all over. #edchat 40201721833721856 cspiezio 2/22/2011 7:10 PM RT @Tekkietalk: Education reform will never happen in one major step. Everyday some teacher makes a step in a new direction-that's ed reform #edchat #edchat 40201671736823808 Tekkietalk 2/22/2011 7:10 PM Education reform will never happen in one major step. Everyday some teacher makes a step in a new direction-that's ed reform #edchat #edchat 40201649368743936 mikevigilant 2/22/2011 7:09 PM RT @ksivick: we could attack many of the issues if we had parent support, is anyone at home paying attention? #edchat 40201631286960128 ksivick2/22/2011 7:09 PM If social media can run Gaddafi out of Libya can't we band together and demand change? #edchat 40201631500869632 1nbm 2/22/2011 7:09 PM Is part of the problem that your world is too small? Education happens outside the USA too! #edchat

40201628413988864 kylepace 2/22/2011 7:09 PM @reasoningmind Sure. I've seen several tweets that poverty is a big common issue. What are some others? #edchat 40201609950670848 cspiezio 2/22/2011 7:09 PM dear #edchat you made my #tweetdeck Throttle" ..... huh? tkraz 2/22/11 7:11 PM One obstacle is the perception that any reform is just another example of the latest fad. How to change that perception is imp. #edchat j_allen 2/22/11 7:11 PM @fliegs I do agree. Those schools (like mine) that do well on the state test don't see the need to change how kids learn. #edchat web20classroom 2/22/11 7:11 PM @malynmawby @Tekkietalk But then that begs the question what should the vision be? #edchat reasoningmind 2/22/11 7:11 PM @c_macd what kind of individualized resources are you looking for? #Edchat tim_yocum 2/22/11 7:11 PM Reform also needs to be adapted community by community depending on the needs of that community #edchat CarpTracy 2/22/11 7:11 PM edreform as teachers/admins. #edchat fliegs 2/22/11 7:11 PM successful in USA. #edchat fliegs 2/22/11 7:11 PM successful in USA. #edchat Parents have just as much of a stake in

@stumpteacher and when it comes to being @stumpteacher and when it comes to being

techsavvyed 2/22/11 7:11 PM @isteconnects Disgree all you want, until most Lawyers, Drs, and other professionals are paid with tax dollars, nothing will change #edchat JoelFoner 2/22/11 7:11 PM Without consensus on edu goals and outcome metrics, how can the need for, or best path, to ed reform be decided? #edchat web20classroom 2/22/11 7:11 PM @mbteach Local. All problems are local. Sure there is a national aspect to it but it is going to take districts stepping up. #edchat malynmawby 2/22/11 7:11 PM @Tekkietalk @web20classroom Clear vision and small steps perhaps? #edchat

ljhardin 2/22/11 7:11 PM RT @jrwolfe: @hshawjr There is definitely a need to look at the rights of teachers and their control over their own classroom #edchat stumpteacher 2/22/11 7:11 PM @jrwolfe @edtechsteve @WendyE40 @mbteach @kylepace I would agree. #edchat ambikadani 2/22/11 7:11 PM narrow this topic down? #edchat @markbarnes19 agreed, can we

fliegs 2/22/11 7:11 PM @stumpteacher Sure. Wealthy schools have problems. But wealthy kids have huge advantages over poor kids when it comes to learning... #edchat PLANETPALS 2/22/11 7:11 PM Over a dozen adorable recycle crafts for kids! http://plpls.com/fQHwl8 #ece #edchat #elemchat #homeEd #moms #teachertuesday k2quiere 2/22/11 7:11 PM We need to stop looking at "research" (that is paid for and biased) and start looking at schools, districts, and countries that work #edchat edtechsteve 2/22/11 7:11 PM I think the way educators/teachers are being easily targeted right now suggests we have to amplify student voices #edchat mbteach 2/22/11 7:11 PM @jrwolfe @kylepace @stumpteacher depends on who you talk to. Is it consistency in the 'how' or consistency in the results? #edchat drewbender 2/22/11 our topic for tonight? 7:11 PM Hey #edchat, just checking in. What is

reasoningmind 2/22/11 7:11 PM @kylepace I think those common issues (that influence education) pretty much stem from poverty generally. Maybe rural v urban. #Edchat jrwolfe 2/22/11 7:11 PM @edtechsteve @WendyE40 @mbteach @kylepace @stumpteacher I think technology has the ability to tackle the scalability problem #edchat c_macd 2/22/11 7:11 PM Where's the individualized resources for schools instead of blanketed and bandaged funding? #edchat #edreform markbarnes19 2/22/11 7:11 PM we should use one or two of these chats to actually brainstorm ideas to solve one problem #edchat

mikevigilant 2/22/11 7:11 PM RT @Tekkietalk: Education reform will never happen in one major step. Everyday some teacher makes a step in a new direction-that's ed reform #edchat #edchat jrwolfe 2/22/11 7:12 PM @mbteach @kylepace @stumpteacher For me, = in results > important than = in results. not all districts are equally as needy #edchat j_allen 2/22/11 7:12 PM still evolving? #edchat @RjWassink I think the question is, are we

reasoningmind 2/22/11 7:12 PM @web20classroom: @mbteach so what does the nat'l govt need to provide so that districts can implement effective reform locally? #Edchat neilstephenson 2/22/11 7:12 PM #2 post of our inquiry book study is live! http://bit.ly/gEpKtv Huge thx to @YvonneDenomy 4 the very thoughtful post! #edchat #edtech #abed ian23505 #edchat 2/22/11 7:12 PM Late getting in tonight. Topic please!

isteconnects 2/22/11 7:12 PM @techsavvyed True, but doctors make much of their $ off medicare (i.e. - taxpayer funded). We just don't see them the same way #edchat ascensiontucson 2/22/11 7:12 PM Check out the next stop on our Skype Across America trip! http://bit.ly/SkypeAlabama #edchat WendyE40 2/22/11 7:12 PM @jrwolfe @edtechsteve @mbteach @kylepace @stumpteacher Tech can be part of a solution, but it can't save the day alone #edchat mbteach 2/22/11 7:12 PM @mrami2 yes, we should be learning from what works, but not just copying it and applying it broadly #edchat edtechsteve 2/22/11 7:12 PM @jrwolfe Gotta say I disagree there. It's the people that make programs work, and you can't scale the people. #edchat esinglet 2/22/11 7:12 PM What's the question? #edchat

suzannecarawan 2/22/11 7:12 PM RT @ksivick: as long as school budgets are tied to property taxes will we ever have reform where it's most needed? #edchat markbarnes19 parents #edchat 2/22/11 7:12 PM @CarpTracy hard to control

azjd 2/22/11 7:12 PM 5 Steps to Successful Learning. Anyone? Anyone? http://bit.ly/gdZoF8 #edchat stumpteacher 2/22/11 7:12 PM @fliegs That is very true. I am just not willing to throw everything in that boat. Money will help but not solve problems. #edchat brianDowd 2/22/11 7:12 PM @hshawjr labor only has to do with employment, not about education. Politics are degrading what we do... #edchat ksivick2/22/11 7:12 PM as long as school budgets are tied to property taxes will we ever have reform where it's most needed? #edchat rjwassink 2/22/11 7:12 PM Education has evolved since the ancient times. All of a sudden we have to stop evolving and completely change our DNA? #edchat pdickson713 2/22/11 7:12 PM #edchat

mrami2 2/22/11 7:13 PM @mbteach yes! embolden schools to make decisions that work best for their students #edchat ljhardin 2/22/11 7:13 PM RT @ksivick: If social media can run Gaddafi out of Libya can't we band together and demand change? #edchat TechCzech 2/22/11 7:13 PM @lousylinguist Historically the problems with ed-tech has been that they only improved a fraction of the overall learning process. #edchat mbteach 2/22/11 7:13 PM @web20classroom so perhaps the hardest issue is figuring out how we know what we are doing locally is working #edchat fliegs 2/22/11 7:13 PM @stumpteacher Tossing money to schools will help in the short run. Tossing money into solving poverty-related problems will work #edchat combi31 2/22/11 7:13 PM Prime Time Learning and Objectives Setting http://bit.ly/hlmPDE #Learning #Edchat #Memory #LLL #Education #Objectives scfuhs 2/22/11 7:13 PM RT @joe_bower: Teachers who blame students for being bored is the equivalent to yelling at the hammer after you strike your own thumb. #abed #edchat tshreve 2/22/11 7:13 PM Poverty is an issue because of its effect on so many areas of child/student development. Solutions are complex and politically tough #edchat

jakramer2 2/22/11 7:13 PM The vision at my school: "We prepare today's students for tomorrow's challenges." I don't always agree with this. #edchat ksivick2/22/11 7:13 PM what's works is largely individual, must take into account demographics #edchat ktenkely 2/22/11 7:13 PM @web20classroom @j_allen @fliegs Spend a little time in affluent schools and you start to see roots of the same problem. #edchat Tekkietalk 2/22/11 7:13 PM RT @jakramer2: I think one part of educational reform is chatting on here in #edchat ! #edchat kylepace 2/22/11 7:13 PM @esinglet Here is our topic for #edchat: What are the real issues surrounding Education Reform? stumpteacher 2/22/11 7:13 PM @WendyE40 @jrwolfe @edtechsteve @mbteach @kylepace Technology is a tool...not an answer. But can be huge + if used properly. #edchat MWeser 2/22/11 7:13 PM RT @Tekkietalk: Education reform will never happen in one major step. Everyday some teacher makes a step in a new direction-that's ed reform #edchat #edchat AVMaltese 2/22/11 7:13 PM RT @ewrobelen: House OKs cuts to array of education programs, from literacy to teaching STEM: http://bit.ly/hvLM4S #scichat #edchat fliegs 2/22/11 7:13 PM @jrwolfe The work of Dan Pink can lead us to ways to spark motivation that dont include merit pay. Autonomy, Purpose, Mastery #edchat techsavvyed 2/22/11 7:13 PM Warning #edchat people, feeling super grumpy this evening, in a combative mood #grrrrrrrrrrr stumpteacher 2/22/11 7:14 PM @kylepace @mbteach @jrwolfe I agree. Consistency in results smells like standardized testing to me... #edchat MWeser 2/22/11 7:14 PM RT @joe_bower: Teachers who blame students for being bored is the equivalent to yelling at the hammer after you strike your own thumb. #abed #edchat JoAnnJ68 2/22/11 7:14 PM There are some similarities but each school is it's own community with it's own problems to solve. #edchat 1nbm 2/22/11 7:14 PM Poverty is a relative term. How many schools in the USA are 'poor' on a global scale? #edchat

mbteach 2/22/11 7:14 PM results > = in how? #edchat

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tkraz 2/22/11 7:14 PM @fliegs @jrwolfe all of which require teacher having more autonomy in classroom which is heading in the opposite direction #edchat gatorbonBC 2/22/11 7:14 PM #FLORIDA - HELP needed .Please pick up a PHONE and call tonight. Numbers below. education/pensions http://wp.me/pWHfU-4o #edchat #edreform markbarnes19 2/22/11 7:14 PM @mbteach @web20classroom what works for me is doing a lot of my own things, without permission of admin #edchat ktenkely 2/22/11 7:14 PM @web20classroom That is true, are definitely problems that deserve more and more immediate attention. #edchat budtheteacher 2/22/11 7:14 PM I smell #edchat.

gfreducation 2/22/11 7:14 PM measure success. #edchat

A big obstacle is agreeing on how we

MarkMNW 2/22/11 7:14 PM Is Wisconsin a sign of rebirth or the death throes of an outdated system we can't afford? #edchat ktenkely 2/22/11 7:14 PM @stumpteacher @mbteach @kylepace Yes, have to focus on root causes that lead to the other problems in education. #edchat malynmawby 2/22/11 7:14 PM @web20classroom @Tekkietalk biggest question that. I think diff stakeholders have diff visions. No consensus in vision is an issue #edchat c_macd 2/22/11 7:14 PM @reasoningmind looking at what an individual school needs instead of rolling out resources to districts ect. #edchat techsavvyed 2/22/11 7:14 PM @isteconnects That's an over generalization about medicare, only part of what doctors make. In education ALL money comes from govt #edchat stumpteacher 2/22/11 7:14 PM @mbteach @web20classroom Focus on what is working and share it. #edchat fliegs 2/22/11 7:14 PM @ktenkely I have worked in both pretty poor, working class and very wealthy districts. I see similar probs, but very diff impact #edchat

edtechsteve 2/22/11 7:14 PM I think "real" reform might only be possible if students lead the way. #edchat ian23505 2/22/11 7:14 PM Phew. That's a big one. #edchat Real issues surrounding edreform.

jrwolfe 2/22/11 7:14 PM @edtechsteve Agreed, but streamlining time consuming work to allow teachers to focus on substantive work is a major benefit of tech #edchat Interactyx 2/22/11 7:14 PM Check out an award-winning LMS with a 100% customer renewal rate in 2010 http://goo.gl/xSDhb #elearning #edchat esinglet 2/22/11 7:14 PM hard to know where to start. #edchat @kylepace thanks. so many issues,

kylepace 2/22/11 7:14 PM @mbteach @jrwolfe @stumpteacher I think expecting consistency in the results is scary. #edchat ksivick2/22/11 7:14 PM RT @mrami2: @mbteach yes! embolden schools to make decisions that work best for their students #edchat fliegs 2/22/11 7:15 PM @tkraz Agreed. I would argue that current Ed reform is going in the absolute wrong direction. #edchat 2ndgradetchr 2/22/11 7:15 PM RT @fliegs: The real issue for Ed reform is poverty. Everything else is commentary. #edchat web20classroom 2/22/11 7:15 PM @mbteach Bingo and many districts aren't reflective. They are reactive. Don't know how or want to look inward. #edchat tshreve 2/22/11 7:15 PM Another issue is the purpose of ed. This becomes a political football. #edchat sammorra 2/22/11 7:15 PM Ed reform should look at how we assess, plan, implement & evaluate what needs to change at the town state, national & global level. #edchat reasoningmind 2/22/11 7:15 PM @stumpteacher: @kylepace @mbteach @jrwolfe but then how do you know kids are learning? #Edchat hbarlaam 2/22/11 7:15 PM RT @web20classroom: Maybe the problem in Education Reform is that we don't know what needs reforming... #edchat mikevigilant 2/22/11 7:15 PM RT @markbarnes19: @mbteach @web20classroom what works for me is doing a lot of my own things, without permission of admin #edchat

stumpteacher 2/22/11 7:15 PM I will admit that education needs reform. But my 4 months on twitter has confirmed to me that change is possible and happening #edchat Edu_Traveler 2/22/11 7:15 PM RT @gfreducation: A big obstacle is agreeing on how we measure success>>and a common definition of success! #edchat mikevigilant 2/22/11 7:15 PM RT @tkraz: @fliegs @jrwolfe all of which require teacher having more autonomy in classroom which is heading in the opposite direction #edchat ChuckBaggett 2/22/11 7:15 PM @JoelFoner Perhaps a variety of paths could be pursued, instead of trying to select only one path, thus allowing for choices. #edchat mbteach 2/22/11 7:15 PM @kylepace @jrwolfe @stumpteacher consistency is the wrong word. I would say 'knowing it works" #edchat web20classroom 2/22/11 7:15 PM @reasoningmind @mbteach Honestly nothing. Well money is always nice. Definitely not tied to policy or law. #edchat TechCzech 2/22/11 7:15 PM RT @fliegs: Tossing money to schools will help in the short run. Tossing money into solving poverty-related problems will work #edchat stumpteacher 2/22/11 7:15 PM @ktenkely @mbteach @kylepace Yes, there are a lot of problem...not just one. #edchat palmeram 2/22/11 7:15 PM #edchat An issue I C is little time 4 teachers 2 discuss ed reform during contract time. Tchers care, but w (cont) http://deck.ly/~uIlbg k2quiere 2/22/11 7:15 PM RT @1nbm: "Poverty" is a relative term. How many schools in the USA are 'poor' on a global scale? #edchat <~~AMEN techsavvyed 2/22/11 7:15 PM @hshawjr WOuld be very interesting since the fruits of teachers labors probably won't bear until far down the road #edchat WendyE40 2/22/11 7:15 PM @mbteach @web20classroom and how to we celebrate, learn from example w/o expecting perfection or tearing down over any neg. outcome #edchat

fliegs 2/22/11 7:15 PM @j_allen Common problem. No one in the community really sees the need to change many of the high performers #edchat charkin 2/22/11 7:15 PM RT @CATeachersAssoc: RT @coopmike48: Unbelievable Outpouring of Solidarity http://bit.ly/hsTbDi #edchat #wiunion #1u web20classroom 2/22/11 7:16 PM @markbarnes19 @mbteach A Rebel. I like. But honestly that is what you have to do sometimes to change minds. #edchat erinneo 2/22/11 7:16 PM today's challenges? #edchat reasoningmind #Edchat 2/22/11 @jakramer2 I ageee- what about @tamurray yep. reform

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stumpteacher 2/22/11 7:16 PM @markbarnes19 All of the resources and examples of changes being made right now in classrooms/schools #edchat reasoningmind 2/22/11 7:16 PM @web20classroom but we see districts getting money with not enough strings attached and it goes in the wrong pockets. #Edchat ian23505 2/22/11 7:16 PM Ed reform is attempting to reform an antiquated system. We need to talk about the purpose of education and build from there. #edchat gfreducation 2/22/11 7:16 PM The local community should decide whether or not a school is successful #edchat ljhardin 2/22/11 7:16 PM Ed is (should be) in a constant state of reform. Problem today is the political nature of the discussion & scape-coating of teachers #edchat B_Wagoner 2/22/11 7:16 PM Systems don't change on their own. Economic, social, and political forces are converging and may push us to real transformation. #edchat mbteach 2/22/11 7:16 PM @jrwolfe @kylepace @stumpteacher consistency can mean measuring, which leads to where we are now #edchat web20classroom 2/22/11 7:16 PM @malynmawby @Tekkietalk Exactly so what needs reform here might not in the next district. Reform should be local. #edchat

kylepace 2/22/11 7:16 PM @esinglet Agreed. We are on a pretty general topic tonight but that's ok. Please feel free to jump in with some folks. :) #edchat Tekkietalk 2/22/11 7:16 PM @web20classroom @malynmawby The vision?Where learning is relevant,engaging, rewarding &challenging-for both teacher & student#edchat #edchat ambikadani 2/22/11 7:16 PM what about making cultural connections to our students..are teachers making the efforts to KNOW their students? #edchat jrwolfe 2/22/11 7:16 PM @stumpteacher @kylepace @mbteach Thx for challenging me on this 1. I think you're right, it can easily lead to standardized testing #edchat markbarnes19 2/22/11 7:16 PM @stumpteacher what have you seen change in education due to twitter? #edchat tamurray 2/22/11 correct? joining late. 7:16 PM #edchat topic appears to be reform -

stumpteacher 2/22/11 7:16 PM @reasoningmind @kylepace @mbteach @jrwolfe I don't need standardized tests to tell me kids are learning. It is but one measure. #edchat jottingmatt 2/22/11 7:16 PM RT @stumpteacher: I will admit that education needs reform. But my 4 months on twitter has confirmed to me that change is possible and happening #edchat gatorbonBC 2/22/11 7:16 PM Awake the State - that is right Florida: Make some noise!! http://bit.ly/i7rfsX. #edchat #edreform #florida #awakethestate #wearredfored readworksorg 2/22/11 7:16 PM A strong opinion in the Huffington Post about school testing #education #edchat http://cot.ag/fp9vu5 mrsenorhill 2/22/11 7:17 PM RT @joe_bower: Teachers who blame students for being bored is the equivalent to yelling at the hammer after you strike your own thumb. #abed #edchat WendyE40 2/22/11 7:17 PM Totally agree. Gets tied to political agenda RT @tshreve: Another issue is the purpose of ed. This becomes a political football. #edchat westwilliamm 2/22/11 7:17 PM #edchat

stumpteacher 2/22/11 7:17 PM @reasoningmind @kylepace @mbteach @jrwolfe How would we know what? that kids are learning? #edchat

web20classroom 2/22/11 7:17 PM @WendyE40 @mbteach That takes a cultural shift. Teachers should learn to share with eachother, grow together, fail together. #edchat krusesclassroom 2/22/11 7:17 PM @ljhardin You are exactly right about education needing to be in constant reform! #edchat rdlln 2/22/11 7:17 PM What makes education in Finland that good? 10 reform principles behind the success.: http://t.co/Sl0eXtq #edchat We need to be doing this. esinglet #edchat 2/22/11 7:17 PM @WendyE40 who are those "experts?" @tomwhitby I think it starts by getting

gfreducation 2/22/11 7:17 PM college programs up to speed. #edchat

mikevigilant 2/22/11 7:17 PM #edchat I think if we talk about reforming whole schools/districts it sounds overwhelming. What about reforming *teachers*? Just an idea. ktenkely 2/22/11 7:17 PM @fliegs Yes, but was problem JUST poverty or were there other, related problems? Parent involvement, resources, school model. #edchat jakramer2 2/22/11 7:17 PM Every school has its own problems to reform: quality teachers, money, parent involvement, socio-economics. #edchat Look individually at each wbarboza 2/22/11 7:17 PM RT @edtechsteve: I think the real issue in education (and all other kinds of) reform is poverty. #edchat edtechsteve 2/22/11 7:17 PM @web20classroom @malynmawby @Tekkietalk Agreed- all ed policy should be local. #edchat reasoningmind 2/22/11 7:17 PM @stumpteacher: @reasoningmind @kylepace @mbteach @jrwolfe i would hope not. but what about everyone else. how would we know? #Edchat TechCzech 2/22/11 7:17 PM Perhaps we should read The Manufactured Crisis before launching into full-scale reform. http://ow.ly/41vaX #edchat andreapoca 2/22/11 7:17 PM RT @rafael_parente: RT @briankotts: 10 Reasons You Should Be Teaching Online http://bit.ly/fFnunV /via @Edudemic #edtech #elearning #edchat

tkraz 2/22/11 7:17 PM @markbarnes19 @stumpteacher the fact that a conversation like this is even taking place. This must ignite something, somewhere. #edchat markbarnes19 2/22/11 7:17 PM starting from what works #edchat @ian23505 good point about

JoelFoner 2/22/11 7:17 PM @ChuckBaggett Agreed... Goals and metrics, but forgot to say "paths." #edchat ksivick2/22/11 #edchat j_allen 2/22/11 #edchat 7:17 PM 7:17 PM purpose of ed? has it changed? should it? @ktenkely Yep. Rich parents can suck, too :) http://mises.org/daily/2226 #edchat

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cusilleee 2/22/11 7:17 PM RT @edtechsteve: I think "real" reform might only be possible if students lead the way. #edchat rjwassink 2/22/11 7:17 PM Every school should have a Mission/Vision statement. Base your success or failure on meeting those ideals. (or else update them) #edchat WendyE40 2/22/11 7:17 PM are schools afraid to trust themselves and their teachers? Do they then go looking for outside *experts* who don't know the issues? #edchat techsavvyed 2/22/11 7:18 PM Maybe the problem with "education reform" is that we've let other people dictate it to us? #edchat ktenkely 2/22/11 7:18 PM @fliegs Got it, same! #edchat

smcclements 2/22/11 7:18 PM RT @Digin4ed: Check out the new portal launch by Higher Ed Teaching & Learning Org http://hetl.org/ #highered #edchat #lrnchat isteconnects 2/22/11 7:18 PM @techsavvyed I think we can agree to see this issue & comparison differently. #edchat ktenkely 2/22/11 7:18 PM @j_allen As can rich school pedagogy, teachers, and working resources. #edchat #reality reasoningmind 2/22/11 7:18 PM @stumpteacher: @reasoningmind @kylepace @mbteach @jrwolfe exactly. by we I mean everyone who isn't in your classroom. #Edchat

fliegs 2/22/11 7:18 PM @ktenkely When I write poverty, please read The whole range of poverty related societal problems. #edchat Tekkietalk 2/22/11 7:18 PM @web20classroom @mbteach You both have created #edreform-small, consistent, role modeling, examples. #edchat #edchat amichetti 2/22/11 7:18 PM RT @1nbm: "Poverty" is a relative term. How many schools in the USA are 'poor' on a global scale? #edchat WendyE40 2/22/11 7:18 PM @web20classroom @mbteach That shift can be hard. At larger district level have to be allowed to be different school to school #edchat jrwolfe 2/22/11 7:18 PM @fliegs I am not familiar enough with his work. Do you have a favorite book by Pink? Would be interested in your recommendation #edchat MarkMNW 2/22/11 7:18 PM RT @tamurray: it seems to me that state budget cuts will force reform whether good or bad....it's making all look at what we do and make choices #edchat mbteach 2/22/11 7:18 PM @stumpteacher @reasoningmind @kylepace @jrwolfe yes. How do we know that we are doing what we set out to do? #edchat mrsenorhill 2/22/11 7:18 PM forward to the conversation. Evening, #edchat friend@s. Looking

wietski 2/22/11 7:18 PM RT @web20classroom: Maybe the problem in Education Reform is that we don't know what needs reforming... #edchat erinneo 2/22/11 7:18 PM Does reform have to be a grand sweeping gesture? I reform my class every time I try something new or do something different, right? #edchat markbarnes19 2/22/11 7:18 PM @stumpteacher I don't see so many changes in schools; maybe in individual classrooms EarlSamuelson 2/22/11 7:18 PM Samuelson Mathxp: Solving Quadratic Equations from a different? perspective http://t.co/4u6GEgd #edchat #education #math #blendedlearning jakramer2 2/22/11 7:18 PM RT @stumpteacher: I will admit that education needs reform. But my 4 months on twitter has confirmed to me that change is possible and happening #edchat

tamurray 2/22/11 7:18 PM it seems to me that state budget cuts will force reform whether good or bad....it's making all look at what we do and make choices #edchat westwilliamm 2/22/11 7:18 PM #Edchat

jessievaz12 2/22/11 7:18 PM @j_allen Yep, I hear you. The independent/ private schools aren't any better when it comes to reform #edchat APolehna 2/22/11 7:18 PM RT @joe_bower: Teachers who blame students for being bored is the equivalent to yelling at the hammer after you strike your own thumb. #abed #edchat ktenkely 2/22/11 7:18 PM @fliegs (I have worked in both too, very different and yet at the root, very similar.) #edchat fliegs 2/22/11 7:18 PM @gfreducation Except nothing is local in USA anymore. Local kids leave and live all over the country. I have an interest in your sch #edchat stumpteacher 2/22/11 7:19 PM @mbteach @reasoningmind @kylepace @jrwolfe I don't like the standards but some level of accountability is not bad. #edchat markbarnes19 2/22/11 7:19 PM @stumpteacher wow! where do you teach? our principals are nothing more than the super's puppets #edchat fliegs 2/22/11 7:19 PM @jrwolfe Drive is his book on the subject. Here is my blog post summary http://bit.ly/eJzR4p #edchat reasoningmind 2/22/11 7:19 PM @web20classroom the govt puts as many guidelines as they feel they can. it's generally the local admin who we need to hold acctable. #Edchat JoAnnJ68 2/22/11 7:19 PM @ambikadani Totally agree but not only to KNOW the students but KNOW their families #edchat ian23505 2/22/11 7:19 PM @MKGoindi We also need to do a better job displaying all of the good that is happening. #edchat mrsenorhill 2/22/11 7:19 PM effort in your classroom #edchat @erinneo If you're already leading an

jrwolfe 2/22/11 7:19 PM @mbteach @stumpteacher @reasoningmind @kylepace So maybe its consistency in goal setting? Not necessarily quantitative goals #edchat esinglet 2/22/11 7:19 PM @WendyE40 You're right! Those "experts" have little knowledge of sound pedagogy. #edchat

TechCzech 2/22/11 7:19 PM We should try to solve proximate rather than ultimate problems with reforms. Feed the poor. Don't teach them fishing. #edchat stumpteacher 2/22/11 7:19 PM @mbteach @reasoningmind @kylepace @jrwolfe For me I still use my learning standards. I just go about them "differently" #edchat web20classroom 2/22/11 7:19 PM @WendyE40 @mbteach Sure. Having the ability to try and do things others don't need to is important. #edchat JoelFoner 2/22/11 7:19 PM RT @ian23505 Ed reform is attempting to reform an antiquated system. We need to talk about purpose of education, build from there. #edchat helpourschools 2/22/11 7:19 PM real problem in ed is us vs them mentality. new vs old teachers. chrter vs non chrter. 4kids, let's identify and keep what works #edchat mrsenorhill 2/22/11 7:19 PM @erinneo That's great! I don't think it needs to be a grand sweeping gesture, but I do think it's ur responsibility to spread it #edchat Akevy613 2/22/11 7:19 PM RT @stumpteacher: @mbteach @web20classroom Focus on what is working and share it. #edchat brianDowd 2/22/11 7:19 PM @hshawjr exactly, tired of politics and the impact that people who don't get it make all the decisions. #edchat erinneo 2/22/11 7:19 PM @rdlln Finland is a special circumstance though. Small country, distinct culture... #edchat MKGoindi 2/22/11 7:19 PM I like the suggestion that the way 2 bolster public confidence in the education system is 2 amplify the student voice. #edchat @edtechsteve markbarnes19 2/22/11 7:19 PM ending collective bargaining? #edchat @tamurray are you in favor of

tkraz 2/22/11 7:19 PM @jessievaz12 @j_allen They have a slightly different issue to contend with as far as reform #edchat WendyE40 2/22/11 7:19 PM @esinglet Often it seems that they are actually sales people selling a "program" to grasp at #edchat stumpteacher 2/22/11 7:19 PM @markbarnes19 I do though...I have met a ton of principals that are modeling and "doing" change now #edchat

jessievaz12 2/22/11 7:20 PM @gfreducation Yes! I absolutely agree! We need to start reforming the teacher prep programs! #edchat isteconnects 2/22/11 7:20 PM Would be interested in what people think of Race to the Top. Is that having an impact on ed reform? #edchat mrsenorhill 2/22/11 7:20 PM @helpourschools I think problem is many things work. To me that is why these binaries exist, to struggle over the prevailing idea #edchat rdlln 2/22/11 7:20 PM @markbarnes19 @tamurray Collective bargaining is part of the problem. I'm not for eliminating it, but that too needs reform. #edchat web20classroom 2/22/11 7:20 PM @reasoningmind Totally agree. Which is why more communities need to get involved with what their districts are doing. #edchat ljhardin 2/22/11 7:20 PM @mikevigilant Reforming teachers - is that assuming that teachers are the stumbling block to reform? Can't agree w/ that. #edchat padgets #edchat 2/22/11 7:20 PM @jaysonengland Yep I am here!

markbarnes19 2/22/11 7:20 PM @stumpteacher who do we have to be accountable to, other than our students? #edchat techsavvyed 2/22/11 disagreement #edchat 7:20 PM @isteconnects Totally, agreed on the

malynmawby 2/22/11 7:20 PM @web20classroom @tekkitalk @edtechsteve can't be all just local because - global citizenship has implications beyond the local. #edchat tborash 2/22/11 7:20 PM @web20classroom Re: reflective vs reactive orgs- seen Senge's Fifth Discipline? All abt how to be a learning organization @mbteach #edchat erinneo 2/22/11 7:20 PM @mrsenorhill I'm always trying to improve, is that what you mean? #edchat ambikadani 2/22/11 7:20 PM @JoAnnJ68 right but knwing families can be harder due to instability, we aren't even making the first step of knowing our students #edchat esinglet 2/22/11 7:20 PM @helpourschools many times the "us" feels "them" have no idea or knowledge of what's right for education. #edchat

k2quiere 2/22/11 7:20 PM We need to redefine ed and teaching for today, else we keep putting bandaids on the dyke of our out-dated system. #edchat mrami2 2/22/11 7:20 PM One concrete #edreform I'd like to see in my teaching lifetime would be to update our learning spaces/infrastructure #edchat stumpteacher 2/22/11 7:20 PM @kylepace @reasoningmind @mbteach @jrwolfe Choice is powerful motivator for kids. #edchat Goal is learning not formatting. krains 2/22/11 7:20 PM Hard to believe that school environment is more restrictive today than 30 years ago. #edchat alexinman97 2/22/11 7:20 PM RT @web20classroom: Maybe the problem in Education Reform is that we don't know what needs reforming... #edchat mbteach 2/22/11 7:20 PM @WendyE40 @web20classroom Philly used to have 'Small Learning Communities" of schools that shared geographic boundaries. Worked well #edchat budtheteacher 2/22/11 7:20 PM Yes. @garystager on IWBs. http://www.techlearning.com/blogs/36842 #edchat reasoningmind 2/22/11 7:20 PM @tamurray re state budget cuts. See Texas and for an extreme example Detroit. #Edchat techsavvyed 2/22/11 7:20 PM like an old school AOL chat room? Why is it that #edchat always seems

MarkMNW 2/22/11 7:20 PM RT @JoelFoner: RT @ian23505 Ed reform is attempting to reform an antiquated system. We need to talk about purpose of education, build from there. #edchat yourkidsteacher 2/22/11 7:20 PM RT @MKGoindi: I like the suggestion that the way 2 bolster public confidence in the education system is 2 amplify the student voice. #edchat @edtechsteve web20classroom 2/22/11 7:20 PM @Dorish Same here. Yet we want to create competitive, global citizens, with less and less resources. #edchat mikevigilant 2/22/11 7:20 PM #edchat I say we have to start from the bottom-up instead of top-down...if we make changes in all our teachers will that filter to the top? ian23505 2/22/11 7:20 PM Headlines are dominated by all that is wrong, which is a small % of the whole of education. #edchat

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kylepace 2/22/11 7:20 PM @reasoningmind @stumpteacher @mbteach @jrwolfe We can't have an attitude of "there's only 1 way to show mastery". #edchat tshreve 2/22/11 7:21 PM Another issue, what is a teacher is in the 21st century. Are they an anyone with a modicum of training or skilled professionals? #edchat ljhardin 2/22/11 7:21 PM RT @krains: Hard to believe that school environment is more restrictive today than 30 years ago. #edchat markbarnes19 2/22/11 reforming CB? #edchat 7:21 PM @rdlln got any suggestions for

mbteach 2/22/11 7:21 PM @stumpteacher @reasoningmind @kylepace @jrwolfe I think standards/goals are important. It's how we get kids 2 reach them that counts #edchat ian23505 2/22/11 7:21 PM How do we work as a profession to change the public image of our schools and steer the reform based upon what is good. #edchat esinglet 2/22/11 7:21 PM @isteconnects i think not. i think states were quick to put something on paper for R2T to get the $$$. #edchat k2quiere 2/22/11 7:21 PM Like I said on my blog description, we have to talk about what we do right because others will always say what we do wrong. #edchat elephantsgerald 2/22/11 7:21 PM for free! he's a great speaker. @danpink web20classroom 2/22/11 7:21 PM but I will check it out. Thanks! #edchat Watch his videos on youtube @tborash @mbteach Have not

ambikadani 2/22/11 7:21 PM TFA - putting the most inexperienced teachers in the highest-risk schools, definitely a problem #edchat mrsenorhill 2/22/11 7:21 PM selling yourself short : ) #edchat JoAnnJ68 2/22/11 7:21 PM @erinneo I guess I thought you were @ambikadani You are right #edchat

ktenkely 2/22/11 7:21 PM @web20classroom @mbteach And even more than that, the schools within the districts are reactive. Need more proactive action in edu. #edchat jakramer2 2/22/11 7:21 PM @DrTimony Or politicians who haven't been in a school since their senior year knows the best way to spend money and teach kids! #edchat reasoningmind 2/22/11 7:21 PM @jrwolfe: @mbteach @stumpteacher @kylepace consistency in goal setting. I like that! #edchat web20classroom 2/22/11 7:21 PM @malynmawby @tekkitalk @edtechsteve Oh sure. But where is that balance? And how does the larger not exert too much control? #edchat mrsenorhill 2/22/11 7:21 PM @erinneo No, I mean just by participating in something like this you are taking part of a "grand sweeping gesture". #edchat Tekkietalk 2/22/11 7:21 PM RT @erinneo:Does reform hve 2 b grand sweeping gesture?I reform my class every time I try smethng new/do something different, right? #edchat ksivick2/22/11 7:21 PM RT @mbteach: @WendyE40 @web20classroom Philly used to have 'Small Learning Communities" of schools that shared geographic boundaries. Worked well #edchat stumpteacher 2/22/11 7:21 PM @markbarnes19 Community, parents, school board, administration, etc...but bottom line is the kids. #edchat TechCzech 2/22/11 7:21 PM RT @ian23505: Headlines are dominated by all that is wrong, which is a small % of the whole of education. #edchat teachersharetp 2/22/11 7:22 PM @ktenkely I agree schools have been reactive in regards to social media making up policies as we go #edchat fliegs 2/22/11 7:22 PM great video. @jrwolfe #edchat @elephantsgerald Yeah, I embedded one

rjwassink 2/22/11 7:22 PM @isteconnects RttT has really helped fuel the fire, causing a lot of extra (unneeded) friction w/unions and taxpayers. #edchat krains 2/22/11 7:22 PM Ed reform--today classes are smaller, teachers are better educated, food is better; what's the problem? #edchat

JoelFoner 2/22/11 7:22 PM @mrsenorhill I think it is different - in past memory and knowing facts were top. Now, using info srcs, learning, evaluating are key #edchat rdlln 2/22/11 applied. #edchat 7:22 PM @erinneo Yes, but the same principles can be

ian23505 2/22/11 7:22 PM @tomschimmer A trajectory yes. My question is always, a trajectory towards what end? #edchat aleaness 2/22/11 7:22 PM @mrami2 me too! #edchat

tomschimmer 2/22/11 7:22 PM Ed reform is not all about the economics...kids will still sing, dance, paint, act, draw, sculp, and write in the 21st Century. #edchat erinneo 2/22/11 7:22 PM @stumpteacher @markbarnes19 I agree- so often we lose our way and forget the real reason any of us have jobs: students. #edchat web20classroom 2/22/11 7:22 PM @ktenkely @mbteach YES! Too many are reactive rather than proactive. But is that the fault of the district or circumstance? #edchat reasoningmind 2/22/11 7:22 PM yes! and not just education RT @ian23505 Headlines are dominated by all that is wrong, which is a small % of the whole of education. #edchat ericjuli2/22/11 7:22 PM @ambikadani We have TFA t's in our high risk schools-they're doing great-we have much larger issues to address than them #edchat esinglet 2/22/11 7:22 PM @isteconnects what they put on paper may not have been sound policy to develop. #edchat helpourschools 2/22/11 7:22 PM we pass buck a lot. high school blames middle, middle elementary. elmntry blames parents. let's own results 4 kids in our classes #edchat WendyE40 2/22/11 7:22 PM @mbteach @web20classroom Great to have a bit of a PLN like that. Also need time to really grapple with options as group #edchat mtechman 2/22/11 7:22 PM RT @MKGoindi: I like the suggestion that the way 2 bolster public confidence in the education system is 2 amplify the student voice. #edchat @edtechsteve

mtechman 2/22/11 7:22 PM RT @MKGoindi: I like the suggestion that the way 2 bolster public confidence in the education system is 2 amplify the student voice. #edchat @edtechsteve edtechsteve 2/22/11 7:22 PM @isteconnects It's having an impact all right- more testing in more areas, now delivered online, tying up comps from quality use #edchat tamurray 2/22/11 7:22 PM great pt, not always easy-->RT @web20classroom .....Teachers should learn to share with each other, grow together, fail together. #edchat jrwolfe 2/22/11 7:22 PM @mikevigilant It's a good place to start. Grassroots movements can be VERY powerful - just look at Twitter #edchat hshawjr 2/22/11 7:23 PM RT @edtechsteve: Would be interesting to get students nationwide to collaborate on a "Student's Bill of Rights"...could help change some minds #edchat ian23505 2/22/11 7:23 PM @yourkidsteacher I would buy your paper. And so would others. Never know until we try. #edchat 1nbm 2/22/11 7:23 PM In a web 2.0 world the distinction between teacher and learner no longer exists. How does this make you feel? #edchat mikevigilant 2/22/11 7:23 PM @ljhardin #edchat True, but the top hears you better if you speak in mass--if we can get everyone on the same page it might be more powerful TechCzech 2/22/11 7:23 PM Education doesn't happen before life but alongside life. Don't try to reform it to solve societal problems. Reform society instead! #edchat kylepace 2/22/11 7:23 PM @mbteach @stumpteacher @reasoningmind @jrwolfe I think that's what I was trying to say. :) #edchat ambikadani 2/22/11 7:23 PM @ericjuli i'm not saying that there aren't great teachers n there, but training needs to be more than a summer long #edchat stumpteacher 2/22/11 #edchat 7:23 PM @edtechsteve I would love to see that!

JoelFoner 2/22/11 7:23 PM @mrsenorhill In consulting, for instance, "knowing something that others do not" is far less important than execution these days. #edchat

jdanish 2/22/11 7:23 PM RT @AVMaltese: RT @ewrobelen: House OKs cuts to array of education programs, from literacy to teaching STEM: http://bit.ly/hvLM4S #scichat #edchat esinglet 2/22/11 7:23 PM RT @rjwassink: @isteconnects RttT has really helped fuel the fire, causing a lot of extra (unneeded) friction w/unions and taxpayers #edchat tomschimmer 2/22/11 7:23 PM @ian23505 First capitalize on what's working and continue to adjust toward what's needed. #edchat malynmawby 2/22/11 7:23 PM @web20classroom @tekkitalk @edtechsteve I don't know. But a govt spending money on education will def want to have a say. #edchat teachersharetp 2/22/11 always looking ahead #edchat 7:23 PM @ktenkely proactive and @krains ahh, the eternal

markbarnes19 2/22/11 7:23 PM optimist. We need more like you. #edchat

edtechsteve 2/22/11 7:23 PM Would be interesting to get students nationwide to collaborate on a "Student's Bill of Rights"...could help change some minds #edchat brandtschneider 2/22/11 7:23 PM RT @budtheteacher: Yes. @garystager on IWBs. http://www.techlearning.com/blogs/36842 #edchat jrwolfe 2/22/11 7:23 PM @JoelFoner @mrsenorhill Agreed. We're no longer in an information based economy - anyone can Google. Ability to analyze is key #edchat stumpteacher 2/22/11 7:23 PM @mbteach @reasoningmind @kylepace @jrwolfe Yes...and I believe in giving a destination but no turn by turn directions #edchat mbteach 2/22/11 7:23 PM @mrami2 buildings are really holding some changes back. Hard to be 21st Century in a building from 1908 #edchat elephantsgerald 2/22/11 7:23 PM RT @mikevigilant: #edchat we have to start from the bottom-up instead of top-down.if we make changes in all our teachers will that filter up mrsenorhill 2/22/11 7:23 PM @ian23505 Indeed. Are there reasons of that shift other than historical context? #edchat ambikadani 2/22/11 7:23 PM @ericjuli right but look at the stats of how many TFA t's leave after 2-5 years, its def a problem #edchat

jessievaz12 2/22/11 7:23 PM Yes. Good ?? RT @krains: Ed reform-today classes are smaller, teachers are better educated, food is better; what's the problem? #edchat tkraz 2/22/11 7:23 PM @jessievaz12 @gfreducation Will reforming the teacher prep prgms help when experienced teachers have difficulty bringing reform? #edchat krusesclassroom #edchat 2/22/11 7:23 PM Is reflection a form of reform?

PrincipalDiff 2/22/11 7:23 PM RT @matthewktabor: Should we shame kids? FL mom makes son hold sign on street corner touting 1.22 GPA: http://bit.ly/fwxkTA #edreform #education #edchat padgets 2/22/11 7:23 PM #edchat Hi everyone! my name is Sharon and I am a HS science teacher from Iowa, catching up reasoningmind 2/22/11 7:23 PM @web20classroom Right. so how can we encourage that community involvement? Too many people just dont know/care. #Edchat tborash 2/22/11 7:23 PM @web20classroom

jrussellteacher 2/22/11 7:24 PM RT @web20classroom: @mbteach Bingo and many districts aren't reflective. They are reactive. Don't know how or want to look inward. #edchat yourkidsteacher 2/22/11 7:24 PM #edchat The positive headlines from my classroom don't sell as many papers. RT @ian23505 Headlines are dominat (cont) http://deck.ly/~Njx1l mikevigilant 2/22/11 7:24 PM A really good point: RT @FrankBeard: RT @fliegs: The real issue for Ed reform is poverty. Everything else is commentary. #edchat LousyLinguist 2/22/11 7:24 PM @techczech: ed-tech only improved a fraction of overall learning. #edchat TOTALLY agree! Good Ed starts and ends with good human beings reasoningmind 2/22/11 7:24 PM @kylepace: @mbteach @stumpteacher @jrwolfe so in those that get you there faster, do we reward for that? (tchr incentives) #edchat ian23505 2/22/11 7:24 PM @mrsenorhill I think we are preparing them to live and work in a job market that is so much more competitive and fluid than ever. #edchat

ericjuli2/22/11 7:24 PM @ambikadani It's a problem only if we consider TFA teachers reformers-I think of them as first yr teachers, not reformers #edchat web20classroom 2/22/11 7:24 PM @reasoningmind Districts have to want them to be involved and many don't because they are afraid of what they will hear. #edchat DeputyMitchell 2/22/11 tonight? missed the beginning!! 7:24 PM What's this #edchat about

kricel11 2/22/11 7:24 PM RT @isteconnects: Support for teachers. Imagine if we questioned drs, lawyers, corp. types the way we do public school teachers #edchat esinglet 2/22/11 7:24 PM RT @RjWassink: too many people have taken pedagogy out of the social mindset and into the economic one. #PredictablyIrrational #edchat jrwolfe 2/22/11 7:24 PM @fliegs @elephantsgerald Thx! I'll look in to these post-edchat. Tuesday nights are always my biggest research nights :) #edchat mrami2 2/22/11 7:24 PM @mbteach learning spaces impact all interactions in the classroom, they make a BIG difference. #edchat FrankBeard 2/22/11 7:24 PM RT @fliegs: The real issue for Ed reform is poverty. Everything else is commentary. #edchat math2go 2/22/11 7:24 PM @elephantsgerald - we have to start from everywhere - bottom, center, top - we have a long way to go! #edchat rjwassink 2/22/11 7:24 PM too many people have taken pedagogy out of the social mindset and into the economic one. #PredictablyIrrational #edchat fliegs 2/22/11 7:24 PM @isteconnects RttT has brought out the worst aspects of NCLB - it is anti-teacher, anti-union, anti-learning. #edchat stumpteacher 2/22/11 7:24 PM @Akevy613 @mbteach @web20classroom @atime Change can/will start in one classroom and spread... #edchat Swanny203 2/22/11 #edchat 7:24 PM @tamurray sounds like PLC to me

mrsenorhill 2/22/11 7:24 PM @JoelFoner But was that true for farmer's kids? Or apprentices? I feel like balance was there before industrial ed #edchat

padgets 2/22/11 7:25 PM #edchat We are all first year teachers, everyday we step in to a new classroom some like me just have done it more often, so learn from me HansenLaurie 2/22/11 7:25 PM Sorry, a little late here- #edchat topic?

PrincipalDiff 2/22/11 7:25 PM RT @matthewktabor: Great post by @RobertTalbert - Is tech used effectively in University of South Florida math classes? http://bit.ly/hOUSIO #edreform #edchat fliegs 2/22/11 7:25 PM @dovemerson Exactly. We were tweeting that very idea a little while ago. Thanks. #edchat reasoningmind 2/22/11 7:25 PM @web20classroom right, and many parents only get involved when they feel their child is being wronged, which causes the friction. #Edchat QZLPatriotHawk 2/22/11 7:25 PM Parents want us to try new things but don't want their kids to be the test subject either. #edchat palmeram 2/22/11 7:25 PM @techsavvyed Absolutely agree-we've let others dictate policy to us. Well said. #edchat tkraz 2/22/11 7:25 PM @1nbm I still believe the distinction exists. Even the top athletes/musicians in the world need a coach/teacher. So do ALL students. #edchat stumpteacher 2/22/11 7:25 PM @reasoningmind @kylepace @mbteach @jrwolfe Not a fan of incentives. When my students reach destination I push them farther #edchat elephantsgerald 2/22/11 7:25 PM @math2go We all can control whatever it is that we can control. That's my reform. I share a lot, too #edchat math2go 2/22/11 7:25 PM RT @krains: @techczech @ian23505 We in education need to fill the news with all that is right! #edchat ktenkely 2/22/11 7:25 PM @web20classroom @mbteach I think it is oversight- if you are a leader of a district your job is to be proactive. #edchat gfreducation 2/22/11 7:25 PM @tkraz@JudyArzt To start, be very selective where you place student teachers. #edchat mrsenorhill 2/22/11 7:25 PM @ian23505 But that's just scale right? job market was super competitive when your world was a small town in 17th century germany #edchat

krains 2/22/11 7:25 PM @techczech @ian23505 We in education need to fill the news with all that is right! #edchat ambikadani 2/22/11 7:25 PM @ericjuli well true, but isn't the goal of TFA to ensure educational equality implying that they are meant to be reformers #edchat teachersharetp #edchat 2/22/11 7:25 PM @BrianDowd it's like a race

dovemerson 2/22/11 7:25 PM @fliegs don't the problems exist across the board, just are more intense in poverty stricken areas? #edchat k2quiere 2/22/11 keep up with #edchat!!! 7:25 PM RT @BrianDowd: ok, who can really

math2go 2/22/11 7:25 PM RT @isteconnects: Support for **educators** Imagine if we questioned drs, lawyers, corp. types the way we do public school teachers #edchat malynmawby 2/22/11 7:25 PM @Edu_Traveler @gfreducation there are camps that argue "why measure anything to do with education/learning at all?" #edchat #42c brianDowd #edchat!!! 2/22/11 7:25 PM 7:25 PM ok, who can really keep up with @kylepace hey Kyle new to twitter

northeagles 2/22/11 first timer #edchat

erinneo 2/22/11 7:26 PM @stumpteacher I agree, incentives turn knowledge into a commodity.. not the point of learning. #edchat ericjuli2/22/11 7:26 PM @ambikadani I think the program is trying to get t's inter schools that need more t's. My point is we have bigger problems to solve #edchat ian23505 2/22/11 7:26 PM @math2go So. What are the headlines that should be coming from our schools and classrooms? #edchat ljhardin 2/22/11 7:26 PM @1nbm I like it! I want to be in a community of learners & doesn't matter if they are 8th gr! I can facilitate & guide & learn. #edchat mrsenorhill 2/22/11 #edchat 7:26 PM @erinneo @ian23505 Or do both.

mrsenorhill 2/22/11 7:26 PM @erinneo @ian23505 I don't think is there any one future. But I think now we have the choice to either compete or collaborate. #edchat web20classroom 2/22/11 7:26 PM @ktenkely @mbteach And thinking ahead is a key piece of leadership but we can only be proactive if we are reflective. #edchat padgets 2/22/11 7:26 PM the 21st century is still new? #edchat why do we keep talking like

DelaneyKirk 2/22/11 7:26 PM RT @padgets: #edchat We are all first year teachers, everyday we step in to a new classroom some like me just have done it more often, so learn from me rjwassink 2/22/11 7:26 PM I am not a technology teacher - I am a man who **teaches children** (the study of technology) #edchat djgallagher 2/22/11 in education #edchat 7:26 PM We need to promote what is working

fliegs 2/22/11 7:26 PM NCLB and RttT have lead directly to current crisis in Wisconsin and elsewhere #edchat k2quiere 2/22/11 7:26 PM We do need to make a more concerted effort to educate our parents too. They can be our biggest allies or our biggest enemies. #edchat brianDowd 2/22/11 7:26 PM RT @teachersharetp: @BrianDowd it's like a race #edchat// no kidding, getting dizzy! Nunavut_Teacher 2/22/11 7:26 PM RT @stumpteacher: @reasoningmind @kylepace @mbteach @jrwolfe Not a fan of incentives. When my students reach destination I push them farther #edchat rdlln 2/22/11 7:26 PM We need to eliminate #NCLB + all interference at the fed level + replace w CCS. Let local communities decide what is best for them. #edchat tshreve 2/22/11 7:26 PM @ambikadani TFA itself is a problem. Says teachers are not professionals #edchat ian23505 2/22/11 7:26 PM @mrsenorhill Some of it is scale . Some of it is the nature of the learning students will have to engage in to remain competitive. #edchat ksivick2/22/11 7:26 PM Despite the fact that I have these kids for > 1/2 of their awake hours , they still go home for validation, need family reform #edchat

JoelFoner 2/22/11 7:26 PM Ever this test q: "Use all resources (google etc) to find best answer to 'question x.' Provide written defense"? :) #edchat teachersharetp 2/22/11 7:26 PM @ktenkely I agree eyes down the road constantly learning and looking ahead #edchat kylepace 2/22/11 7:26 PM @northeagles Welcome! We've got a lively #edchat discussion happening right now. Talking about what the real issues are in edreform. ericjuli2/22/11 7:26 PM @ambikadani they kill them during that summer-but they are no more or less prepared to teach in a city than teacher prep graduate #edchat krains 2/22/11 7:26 PM @ian23505 @mrsenorhill Unfortunately, many "paths" have not changed. #edchat erinneo 2/22/11 7:26 PM @ian23505 @mrsenorhill But competition is a problem. Sometimes I feel that it's at odds with collaborationisn't that the future? #edchat gfreducation 2/22/11 7:26 PM @malynmawby That would be fine by me but taxpayers want accountability. #edchat QZLPatriotHawk 2/22/11 7:27 PM goal is changing all the time. #edchat Hard to reform when the end

jrwolfe 2/22/11 7:27 PM @mikevigilant Isn't that what ppl in #edchat R doing? Accepting that tools we're given by leadership aren't sufficient, & seeking alt. ansrs reasoningmind 2/22/11 7:27 PM RT @mbteach @kylepace @stumpteacher @jrwolfe but many students aren't meeting those basic objectives. lower standards? #edchat markbarnes19 2/22/11 promote ourselves? #edchat 7:27 PM @bethetigger how do we

jrussellteacher 2/22/11 7:27 PM RT @edtechsteve: I think "real" reform might only be possible if students lead the way. #edchat mbteach 2/22/11 7:27 PM @ktenkely @web20classroom it gets harder as districts get larger. W/budget cuts, many districts are being combined :( #edchat erinneo 2/22/11 7:27 PM @mrsenorhill @ian23505 Well said. (Still prefer collaboration though!) =) #edchat

fliegs 2/22/11 7:27 PM @rdlln Of course, it was fed interference that has forced desegregation. Hmm. #edchat web20classroom 2/22/11 7:27 PM @WendyE40 @ktenkely @mbteach But the status quo is so easy so many stay in that comfortable place which is why we are where we are. #edchat ambikadani 2/22/11 7:27 PM @ericjuli i think we have many problems to solve, one of them being teacher training, which is a BIG problem too #edchat JoelFoner 2/22/11 7:27 PM Fix - Ever seen this test q: "Use all resources (google etc) to find best answer to 'question x.' Provide written defense"? :) #edchat yourkidsteacher 2/22/11 7:27 PM Hold on tight its flying tonight RT @northeagles @kylepace hey Kyle new to twitter first timer #edchat ksivick2/22/11 7:27 PM ed reform -> need majority of parents on board, are they too busy to notice? #edchat malynmawby 2/22/11 7:27 PM @gfreducation my point exactly that there r demands, in and out of ed system, sometimes conflicting, making reform a huge challenge. #edchat bethetigger 2/22/11 7:27 PM I agree about the news. We must promote ourselves and show that we are getting results. Too much negativity in the news. #edchat gfreducation 2/22/11 7:27 PM @fliegs How about a survey of parents asking them if they are satisfied with the school/programs #edchat jessievaz12 2/22/11 7:27 PM Yes, why?! When we will see it's here?!RT @padgets: #edchat why do we keep talking like the 21st century is still new? 1nbm 2/22/11 7:27 PM @tkraz all teachers need a coach/teacher as well. Actually, more than one. #edchat math2go 2/22/11 7:27 PM RT @djgallagher: We need to promote what is working in education #edchat <& support web20classroom 2/22/11 7:27 PM @reasoningmind Yep. Many don't see schools as welcoming places to begin with so why would they want to be involved. #edchat

elephantsgerald 2/22/11 7:27 PM @erinneo A great teacher told me there's 2 kinds of competition. Oneupmanship, and the kind that inspires others to be better. #edchat scfuhs 2/22/11 7:27 PM @ericjuli why not reformers? #edchat

krains 2/22/11 7:27 PM Ed reform? It's like looking for the best medicine to take for an illness. #edchat WendyE40 2/22/11 7:27 PM @ktenkely @web20classroom @mbteach agreed. leadership does not mean maintaining status quo. #edchat TechCzech 2/22/11 7:27 PM Alison Wolf showed that having had a job is more important to getting a job than education. What to reform, then? http://ow.ly/41vpk #edchat tamurray 2/22/11 7:27 PM @reasoningmind NY is doing a pretty ugly cut as well.....some are losing 22% of aid . . . #edchat JoAnnJ68 2/22/11 7:27 PM RT @padgets: #edchat why do we keep talking like the 21st century is still new? mbteach 2/22/11 7:27 PM @reasoningmind @kylepace @stumpteacher @jrwolfe would agree-no incentives. If students meet basic goals, have them cr8 their own #edchat padgets 2/22/11 7:28 PM #edchat the end goal has always been the same, we have just tried too many ways to get there, little more togetherness? hshawjr 2/22/11 7:28 PM RT @FrankBeard: Much of today's #edreform is silver-bullet solutions to low-income schools, and yet it's being pushed everywhere. #edchat #politics stumpteacher 2/22/11 7:28 PM @tomschimmer @erinneo Yes, but that is through learning. i don't believe in giving Jolly Ranchers for turning work in on time :) #edchat ian23505 2/22/11 7:28 PM @krains Paths are a huge problem. Different end, same path. Not getting them there. #edchat Swanny203 2/22/11 #edchat 7:28 PM came in late - what's the topic?

JasonFlom 2/22/11 7:28 PM I'm not sure that they do, currently, 'cept as testing subjects. RT @mbteach: How do students play into the issues of #edreform? #edchat

math2go 2/22/11 7:28 PM @ian23505 teachers and administrators are innovating; kids are learning; I see it every day, not perfect, but... #edchat kylepace 2/22/11 7:28 PM We must listen to them! RT @mbteach: How do students play into the issues of #edreform? #edchat ktenkely 2/22/11 7:28 PM @web20classroom @mbteach That is a HUGE key, if we aren't reflective makes it hard to be effectively proactive. Hit on something. #edchat danielespejo 2/22/11 7:28 PM #edchat - we need to distinguish between lobbying for ourselves and lobbying for education - perception is we are always in it for ourselves web20classroom 2/22/11 7:28 PM RT @bethetigger: Having parents sit in on our classes is important, too! Show them what we are doing to make education great. #edchat mrsenorhill 2/22/11 7:28 PM @erinneo @ian23505 Oh me too, believe me. I was never good enough at anything to compete. #edchat mikevigilant 2/22/11 7:28 PM #edchat As a first year teacher I can tell you that ed reform needs to include teacher prep in college. Was *nowhere* near ready for this. krusesclassroom 2/22/11 7:28 PM @JoelFoner That's a great question. Forces the student to analyze and think! #edchat bethetigger 2/22/11 7:28 PM Having parents sit in on our classes is important, too! Show them what we are doing to make education great. #edchat WendyE40 2/22/11 7:28 PM @web20classroom @ktenkely @mbteach exactly b/c as long as status quo is better than some, easy to feel better than someone #edchat fliegs 2/22/11 7:28 PM @gfreducation Surveys are powerful tools. Unfortunately, many parents are satisfied if their kids get what they got 25 yrs ago #edchat brianDowd 2/22/11 7:28 PM RT @gfreducation: @tkraz Let's put student teachers with only the best teachers. #edchat erinneo 2/22/11 7:28 PM @elephantsgerald I've never thought as inspiration and competition as being complementary.. food for thought! #edchat

LouMeethongsai 2/22/11 7:28 PM @DeputyMitchell @LouMeethongsai Transcript can be found here when posted http://edchat.pbworks.com/w/page/219908/FrontPage #edchat elephantsgerald 2/22/11 7:28 PM @ian23505 @math2go I get emails from england etc that like my stuff. It's my admins who don't know what i'm doing. #edchat tomschimmer 2/22/11 7:28 PM @erinneo @stumpteacher Isn't the incentive for a better future valid? #edchat jakramer2 2/22/11 7:28 PM @ktenkely I would love to be more proactive, but everytime I am, co workers look down at me and refer to me as arrogant. #edchat stumpteacher 2/22/11 7:28 PM @mbteach @reasoningmind @kylepace @jrwolfe I help kids frame their goals if needed but learning is in their hands. I guide #edchat FrankBeard 2/22/11 7:28 PM Much of today's #edreform is silverbullet solutions to low-income schools, and yet it's being pushed everywhere. #edchat #politics ian23505 2/22/11 convo. #edchat 7:28 PM @ToughLoveforX I'll take a look after

ktenkely 2/22/11 7:28 PM @teachersharetp Exactly, happening but it is in small pockets. Should be more widespread. #edchat edtechsteve 2/22/11 7:28 PM I'm also starting to see that stand. testing allows low poverty schools "off the hook" too much- they can skate by because of scores #edchat TechCzech 2/22/11 7:28 PM RT @edtechsteve: I think "real" reform might only be possible if students lead the way. #edchat mbteach 2/22/11 of #edreform? #edchat 7:28 PM How do students play into the issues @tkraz Let's put student teachers with @krusesclassroom Thanks! #edchat

gfreducation 2/22/11 7:28 PM only the best teachers. #edchat JoelFoner 2/22/11 7:29 PM

web20classroom 2/22/11 7:29 PM @jakramer2 Be a rebel. Be different. Do what works. Worry about your teaching and your kids. That's what's important. #edchat

fliegs 2/22/11 7:29 PM RT @QZLPatriotHawk: I heard one of my teachers say "if it aint broke, dont fix it" - many ppl think its not broke #edchat mbteach 2/22/11 7:29 PM @edtechsteve also, parents don't see any problems w/the way things are b/c kids are 'performing' #edchat erinneo 2/22/11 7:29 PM @tomschimmer @stumpteacher Of course... I meant like, do this and I'll give you %100.. or a chocolate bar... or less homework. #edchat mikevigilant 2/22/11 7:29 PM @jrwolfe Sure. But I teach in a huge, highly structured district. Largely, my hands are tied--want to keep my job, but make change 2 #edchat Nunavut_Teacher 2/22/11 7:29 PM @stumpteacher @reasoningmind @kylepace @mbteach @jrwolfe Incentive is another word for bribe to me. #edchat ktenkely 2/22/11 7:29 PM @mbteach @web20classroom Yes, that does make harder, I don't think impossible with right leadership in districts/schools. #edchat mrsenorhill 2/22/11 7:29 PM Shameless plug, but I blogged on a mindset change @thedisruptdept yesterday: http://t.co/DxtdUFd #edchat davidwees 2/22/11 7:29 PM @ksivick The evidence I've heard is that retaining students doesn't help them, it reduces their probability of graduating. #edchat stumpteacher 2/22/11 7:29 PM @mbteach @reasoningmind @kylepace @jrwolfe that is why my grades are fluid, kids can redo all work until end of term. #edchat ZeniaMc79 2/22/11 7:29 PM RT @joe_bower: Teachers who blame students for being bored is the equivalent to yelling at the hammer after you strike your own thumb. #abed #edchat ian23505 2/22/11 7:29 PM @mrsenorhill Isn't it about giving them a chance. Many are disadvantanged, they deserve the opportunity to fight. #edchat JoelFoner 2/22/11 7:29 PM @mrsenorhill Good point - I've wondered if having experienced something should count as learning in ways not shown by test rslts #edchat azjd 2/22/11 7:29 PM Twas the Night Before Conferences: A Parents Perspective on Parent-Teacher Conferences http://bit.ly/fE4WiG #edchat

rjwassink 2/22/11 7:29 PM @mbteach At some point we've got to let them choose content and we choose context. But many students don't know what they don't know #edchat dovemerson 2/22/11 7:29 PM @mikevigilant do u feel like u have good support now in your role as new teacher? mentor, etc? #edchat #edchat palmeram 2/22/11 7:29 PM @ian23505 Headlines shld B "Local district has consistently improved from year 2 year" #edchat QZLPatriotHawk 2/22/11 7:29 PM I heard one of my teachers say "if it aint broke, don't fix it" - many ppl think its not broke #edchat gfreducation 2/22/11 7:29 PM @JudyArzt If they are declining placements maybe they aren't the best teachers #edchat JoAnnJ68 2/22/11 7:29 PM RT @mikevigilant: #edchat As a first year teacher I can tell you ed reform needs to include teacher prep in co (cont) http://deck.ly/~340Ff ktenkely 2/22/11 7:29 PM @WendyE40 @web20classroom @mbteach Unfortunately in many cases leadership and status quo are synonymous. More #linchpins! #edchat kostadimer 2/22/11 7:29 PM RT @budtheteacher: Yes. @garystager on IWBs. http://www.techlearning.com/blogs/36842 #edchat FrankBeard 2/22/11 7:29 PM RT @erinneo: @stumpteacher I agree, incentives turn knowledge into a commodity.. not the point of learning. #edchat mbteach 2/22/11 7:29 PM @reasoningmind @kylepace @stumpteacher @jrwolfe b/c students r given a limited time 2 complete goals. All can reach standards w/time #edchat jessievaz12 2/22/11 7:29 PM @mrsenorhill Exactly what I believe! Reform the teacher prep and then we're getting somewhere! #edchat teachersharetp 2/22/11 7:29 PM @ktenkely That's the beauty of the internet we can find out what everyone is doing and hopefully bring about more change #edchat jakramer2 2/22/11 7:29 PM @web20classroom Status quo is easy way to go. As I stated in another tweet, I am looked down at for trying out new things! #edchat mtoran 2/22/11 7:29 PM RT @joe_bower: Teachers who blame students for being bored is the equivalent to yelling at the hammer after you strike your own thumb. #abed #edchat

reasoningmind 2/22/11 7:29 PM So if we aren't happy overall with what TFA is doing for #ed, what #edreform groups are good? #Edchat Tekkietalk 2/22/11 7:29 PM What is ed reform? And, how do you know WHEN or IF it is happening? #edchat ksivick2/22/11 7:29 PM eduction system? #edchat isn't social promotion sabotage for today's

tkraz 2/22/11 7:29 PM @1nbm Exactly. I am not ready to write off my profession just yet just b/c we can find info on Google. #edchat mmarotta 2/22/11 7:30 PM RT @web20classroom: @jakramer2 Be a rebel. Be different. Do what works. Worry about your teaching and your kids. That's what's important. #edchat ksivick2/22/11 7:30 PM will a move to objective to demonstrate specific competencies for grade promotion help? #edchat kylepace 2/22/11 7:30 PM RT @edtechsteve: I think "real" reform might only be possible if students lead the way. #edchat ktenkely 2/22/11 7:30 PM @teachersharetp Absolutely, spread what is working and encourage those #linchpins to keep doing it. #edchat brianDowd 2/22/11 7:30 PM RT @mikevigilant: @jrwolfe Sure. But I teach in a huge, highly structured district. Largely, my hands are tied--want to keep my job, but make change 2 #edchat mbteach 2/22/11 7:30 PM @kylepace @JasonFlom what about the 17yr old in Wisconsin who told it like it is? They understand what's going on #edchat reasoningmind 2/22/11 7:30 PM @tshreve meant that literally. #Edchat @scfuhs: I don't think

edtechsteve 2/22/11 7:30 PM @mbteach Exactly- you'll see some of the WORST teaching in the schools with best scores...worksheets, same ole same ole, etc. #edchat mrsenorhill 2/22/11 7:30 PM @jrwolfe We no longer have to "wholesale" prep kids for industries by what is most efficient, only what is more effective #edchat jessievaz12 2/22/11 7:30 PM love to see that TED! #edchat @markbarnes19 Great point! I would

ian23505 2/22/11 7:30 PM @palmeram That's a great start! What else might we want to publicize about our schools? #edchat

WendyE40 2/22/11 7:30 PM @ktenkely @web20classroom Definitely need more #linchpins. sometimes seems that education eats its rising stars #edchat ktenkely 2/22/11 7:30 PM @jakramer2 yeah you learn to ignore that and stop caring! ;) Seriously, people groan when I walk into meeting- I challenge them. #edchat mrsenorhill 2/22/11 7:30 PM @jrwolfe But what if what is valued in other sectors is wrong? we have the chance to start those changes, no longer follow them #edchat jrwolfe 2/22/11 7:30 PM approach, I like that #edchat @stumpteacher That's a great

HansenLaurie 2/22/11 7:30 PM RT @edtechsteve: I think "real" reform might only be possible if students lead the way. #edchat helpourschools 2/22/11 7:30 PM @mrsenorhill good point. we should keep the teachers, programs, schools that work and lose the ideology #edchat seburnt 2/22/11 7:30 PM RT @ShellTerrell: via @profesortbaker Connectivism and English Language Teaching: Why Do We Connect? #CCK11 #ELTchat http://bit.ly/hEVAku #edchat JasonFlom 2/22/11 7:30 PM @mbteach But they should. Their engagement, insights, & reflections could help restructure & fine tune programs to meet their needs. #edchat tamurray 2/22/11 7:30 PM RT @elephantsgerald: @math2go We all can control whatever it is that we can control. That's my reform. I share a lot, too #edchat <--good pt bethetigger 2/22/11 7:30 PM Board meetings, newspapers, newsletters, promotion in the local news. The uneducated about what we do need buy-in! #edchat @markbarnes19 teachersharetp 2/22/11 7:30 PM and leaders have to keep up #edchat @BrianDowd I agree teachers

padgets 2/22/11 7:30 PM #edchat edrefrom has happened just ask those that have been around more than 10 yrs teach way different now 17yrs later than now djgallagher 2/22/11 7:31 PM @ksivick Parents are non existed in my district can get them in for a meeting when their child iis failinh #edchat

ToughLoveforX 2/22/11 7:31 PM @mbteach A focus on what is working makes so much sense. It's a Positive Deviance approach. Just common sense. #edchat @web20classroom AyaAcademy 2/22/11 7:31 PM Wondering how the same forces can advocate collaborative planning and denounce collective bargaining #edchat mrsenorhill 2/22/11 7:31 PM @ian23505 Of course it's about that. We're already fighting, but we're bringing spoons to a knife fight #edchat reasoningmind 2/22/11 7:31 PM RT @jrwolfe: @Nunavut_Teacher @stumpteacher @reasoningmind @kylepace @mbteach Incentive is another word for "motivate" to me #edchat krains 2/22/11 7:31 PM Look at classroom pictures from the '60s; 37+ students in a class; no special ed; no aides; no funding; how'd they do it? #edchat coopmike48 2/22/11 7:31 PM Read The EdTech Early Edition today's top stories via @bb_mobile http://t.co/J9JVWYC #edtech #edchat hshawjr 2/22/11 7:31 PM RT @mikevigilant: @jrwolfe Sure. But I teach in a huge, highly structured district. Largely, my hands are tied--want to keep my job, but make change 2 #edchat azjd 2/22/11 7:31 PM Distributing Leadership http://bit.ly/gEwPQb #edchat #cpchat erinneo 2/22/11 7:31 PM @kylepace @edtechsteve Optimistic, but realistic? Do students even know what they want? Do teachers? #edchat JasonFlom 2/22/11 7:31 PM Exactly. RT @mbteach: @kylepace what about the 17yr old in Wisconsin who told it like it is? They understand what's going on #edchat Tekkietalk 2/22/11 7:31 PM @web20classroom @bethetigger Just spent a day w/ my daughter, 17 & really see her classes, day different. Wonderful experience #edchat fliegs 2/22/11 7:31 PM @web20classroom @jakramer2 For crying out loud, do not just worry about what is happening in your room. You MUST leave the room #edchat ian23505 2/22/11 7:31 PM @mrsenorhill If you weren't good enough, what was it that gave you the drive or support you needed? #edchat palmeram 2/22/11 7:31 PM Tchers need 2 consider current practice. ie, do we rlly need 2 spend so much time on preparing 4 tests & celebrating scores? #edchat

Edu_Traveler 2/22/11 7:31 PM @malynmawby @gfreducation I don't think it's the measuring that's the issue. It's what's measured ajd value placement #edchat #42c jakramer2 2/22/11 7:31 PM @web20classroom Honestly, I do. Unfortunately I have few friends in the building... because I want to go above and beyond. #edchat mbteach 2/22/11 7:31 PM @ksivick yes! We understand kids develop differently, but once they enter school we forget #edchat tkraz 2/22/11 7:31 PM Does what every teacher does need edreform? What specifically needs to change? #edchat padgets 2/22/11 7:31 PM #edchat have you ever seen the dancer on YouTube? if you start eventually others so, so are you going to start the dance? web20classroom 2/22/11 7:31 PM @WendyE40 @ktenkely And why is that? Why push out those that do right for kids? #edchat ktenkely 2/22/11 7:31 PM @markbarnes19 I think that is exactly what I have in mind. Showing off what works, inviting people to add more of what works. #edchat bethetigger 2/22/11 7:31 PM I love the Three A's of Awesome TED. Positivity is such an important thing! #edchat brophycat 2/22/11 7:31 PM @RjWassink what about blending student passion and curiosity w big essential question? many ways to get at content #edchat jrwolfe 2/22/11 7:31 PM @Nunavut_Teacher @stumpteacher @reasoningmind @kylepace @mbteach Incentive is another word for "motivate" to me #edchat mtechman 2/22/11 7:31 PM .@mbteach wonderful articulate young teens spoke at budget hearings last yr. Wld lv to see students writing for pub re their lrng #edchat jessievaz12 2/22/11 7:31 PM Let's promote that teachers are dedicate and on the cutting edge. That we move the world forward through the students. #edchat TechCzech 2/22/11 7:31 PM RT @metaphorhacker: I like the idea of leveling up in games as a model for an alternative to grading. http://ow.ly/41tVb #edchat

mikevigilant 2/22/11 7:31 PM @dovemerson I have mentors for SpEd but I don't really feel supported for teaching--I have no idea what I'm supposed to be doing #edchat erinneo 2/22/11 7:31 PM But if a computer CAN do your job, you're doing something wrong. Or you're a robot. #edchat stumpteacher 2/22/11 7:31 PM I would like to see teachers in the news more but for the "good" stuff. Too much bad press for our profession right now #edchat ktenkely 2/22/11 7:32 PM @mbteach @wendye40 @web20classroom That is true too, try to sell bad somewhere else to people who don't know better. #edchat web20classroom 2/22/11 7:32 PM @fliegs @jakramer2 Of course you must leave the room. Being networked helps. Bring the outside in. #edchat palmeram 2/22/11 7:32 PM @Heathrb25 It seems test prep has become our culture. I plan to keep that in check this year! #edchat gfreducation 2/22/11 7:32 PM @debbiefuco You are right. Everyone has a different idea of what reform is. #edchat 21stprincipal 2/22/11 7:32 PM If you walk in classroom and it is arranged like it would have been 70 to 100 years ago, has reform occurred? #edchat padgets 2/22/11 7:32 PM #edchat I think we all know what we want our students to be we just have different views on how to get there that is awesome! tomschimmer 2/22/11 7:32 PM @Nunavut_Teacher A bribe is about coercing people 2 be immoral or unethical...too strong a word for me. #edchat TheHelpGroup 2/22/11 7:32 PM Sorry to miss #edchat today. Still counting reservations for Rudy Simone's #AdvanceLA lecture on the 24th. Will catch up tonight! stumpteacher 2/22/11 7:32 PM @Nunavut_Teacher Agree, which is why relationships is more important that the content it self. #edchat edtechsteve 2/22/11 7:32 PM @erinneo @kylepace They might not know what they want, but they'll sure enough tell you exactly what they DON'T want #edchat WendyE40 2/22/11 7:32 PM @web20classroom @ktenkely I don't get it, but I feel like it happens. Maybe it makes others look bad and shows potential for all? #edchat

ktenkely 2/22/11 7:32 PM @WendyE40 @web20classroom I would agree with that, happens in every area...people who challenge "good enough" are not always popular #edchat malynmawby 2/22/11 7:32 PM @Edu_Traveler @gfreducation But there are some who argue measuring is an issue. It's indicative of the complexity of the problem. #edchat mrsenorhill 2/22/11 7:32 PM @ian23505 And thankfully adults that respected my desire for a diverse existence. #edchat 1nbm 2/22/11 7:32 PM Is the _Education_ better in schools with more $$/resources? That's the implication of your 'it's all about poverty' argument. #edchat wbarboza 2/22/11 7:32 PM RT @edtechsteve: I think "real" reform might only be possible if students lead the way. #edchat jakramer2 #edchat 2/22/11 7:32 PM @padgets so true. You guys are great!

mbteach 2/22/11 7:32 PM @ktenkely @WendyE40 @web20classroom or leaders move from city to city with the same failed programs #edchat Heathrb25 2/22/11 7:32 PM @palmeram #edchat I hate that teaching has become preparing to for testing...it used to be so much more fun! rjwassink 2/22/11 7:32 PM We need more unstructured(?) time for the kids. How about a weekly "TED" talk featuring kids? Or a Smackdown? Fun and important. #edchat wbarboza 2/22/11 7:32 PM RT @edtechsteve: I think the way educators/teachers are being easily targeted right now suggests we have to amplify student voices #edchat helpourschools 2/22/11 7:32 PM @esinglet sometimes the us knows not what the rest of the "usses" are up to. good teachers don't always see how bad awful tchrs are #edchat mrsenorhill 2/22/11 7:32 PM @ian23505 Being average at many things, rather than exceptional at one #edchat debbiefuco 2/22/11 7:32 PM The real issues in ed reform is that different people have different views of what the purpose of education is #edchat

fliegs 2/22/11 7:32 PM RT @jessievaz12: @fliegs Yes! We all need to get out there more...including the net! #edchat stumpteacher 2/22/11 7:32 PM @erinneo @kylepace @edtechsteve ONly way to know for sure is to ask... #edchat kylepace 2/22/11 7:32 PM @JasonFlom @mbteach Here's the link to that: http://youtu.be/93n8RZjkCgE #edchat web20classroom 2/22/11 7:32 PM @jakramer2 I was just like you. No one bought it to what I was doing at first. Minds changed and the culture changed. #edchat onlinesavvy 2/22/11 7:32 PM Inspirational #Teacher: @Matt_Gomez Shares Tips to Set Up A #Facebook Classroom Page: http://bit.ly/fNGMbJ #edchat #education #kinderchat jessievaz12 2/22/11 7:32 PM there more...including the net! #edchat @fliegs Yes! We all need to get out

mtechman 2/22/11 7:33 PM @krains my son, legally blind honor student, would not have been in the room in those pictures fr 60's schls, probably not in schl #edchat ktenkely 2/22/11 7:33 PM @teachersharetp Often not popular at the time. Benefit now is we have people who support us virtually! #edchat tkraz 2/22/11 7:33 PM RT @tomwhitby: If we need to change the culture to lead to reform, how do we involve parents/taxpayers? #edchat mrsenorhill 2/22/11 #edchat 7:33 PM @jrwolfe Can you give me examples?

21stprincipal 2/22/11 7:33 PM Is the teacher's desk still located at the front of the room with a podium? Has reform happened in that room #edchat web20classroom 2/22/11 7:33 PM @ktenkely @mbteach @wendye40 And that is why we are where we are. #edchat reasoningmind 2/22/11 7:33 PM get them involved to do what? RT @scfuhs: #edchat we need to get communities involved. It takes a village :-) mbteach 2/22/11 7:33 PM @ToughLoveforX @web20classroom yes, focus on what works, but don't just try to replicate it elsewhere verbatim #edchat ToughLoveforX 2/22/11 7:33 PM @fliegs Might not have to go further than your community. Schools are just communities in communities. @web20classroom @jakramer2 #edchat

fliegs 2/22/11 7:33 PM the debate out in public. #edchat

@web20classroom But also get involved in

kylepace 2/22/11 7:33 PM @edtechsteve I had an awesome experience with this last Friday. http://bit.ly/aRot9V #edchat danielespejo 2/22/11 7:33 PM SO TRUE RT @debbiefuco: The real iss. in ed reform is that different people have different views of what the purpose of education is #edchat jrwolfe 2/22/11 right? #edchat 7:33 PM @mrsenorhill Yeah, but what if they're

reasoningmind 2/22/11 7:33 PM RT @nunavut_teacher: @jrwolfe @stumpteacher @kylepace @mbteach so do we need to consider nonmonetary incentives? #edchat WendyE40 2/22/11 7:33 PM @mbteach that's no good! Or they go city to city with their 1 idea that was good at first, but not so much 10yrs later #edchat ksivick2/22/11 7:33 PM @padgets #edchat http://youtu.be/fW8amMCVAJQ the importance of the first follower mtoran 2/22/11 7:33 PM @padgets Hey Sharon, just plugged into #edchat for the first time, wow, intense. How do you keep up with it? Where are the topics posted? ZeniaMc79 2/22/11 7:33 PM @brophycat is the best way in my classroom. Gets to the root of what they need to know, while building on their curiosity. #edchat brianDowd 2/22/11 7:33 PM to say Im sorry than approval...#edchat mlessons 2/22/11 #edtech #teacher 7:33 PM I usually find the adage true its easier Are teachers overpaid?? #edchat

jessievaz12 2/22/11 7:33 PM @Heathrb25 That's why we should reform the teacher prep courses. Let's get back to what matters...the spirit of learning. #edchat mbteach 2/22/11 7:33 PM @RjWassink they also might not know what they want to know w/out guidance #edchat scfuhs 2/22/11 7:34 PM @reasoningmind we need to first get them to care! I'd love to see more community members in my classroom #edchat

Nunavut_Teacher 2/22/11 7:34 PM @tomschimmer I am taking incentives to mean rewards. If incentives are not rewards I am taking it out of context. #edchat web20classroom 2/22/11 7:34 PM @jakramer2 Again, we are more a like then you think. I know where you are. Just keep sharing and changing minds. #edchat ian23505 2/22/11 7:34 PM @mrsenorhill Never thought of it that way. Spoons to a knife fight. What would sharpen your spoons? #edchat palmeram 2/22/11 7:34 PM RT @fliegs: @ToughLoveforX Absolutely, start local. Talk with parents and the community about what NCLB/RttT does to learning. #edchat AyaAcademy 2/22/11 7:34 PM The only thing that will 'turn around' schools are teachers -->dedicated, passionate, skilled teachers #edchat stumpteacher 2/22/11 7:34 PM @HansenLaurie All of the good things teachers are doing, great lessons, projects, debates, student work - share the great work #edchat B_Wagoner 2/22/11 7:34 PM Too many parents trust the system. It worked for them. It's working for their kids, or we tell them it's their kids who are broken. #edchat erinneo 2/22/11 7:34 PM @edtechsteve @kylepace Have you ever asked a student if they want %100? Whenever I give them I'm met with suspicion. #edchat padgets 2/22/11 7:34 PM @jakramer2 #edchat good for you!

hshawjr 2/22/11 7:34 PM RT @fliegs: @web20classroom @jakramer2 For crying out loud, do not just worry about what is happening in your room. You MUST leave the room #edchat krains 2/22/11 7:34 PM from reform? #edchat Ed reform? What do our constituents want Should funding for education be a

tomwhitby 2/22/11 7:34 PM universal equitable plan? #Edchat

edtechsteve 2/22/11 7:34 PM @kylepace I think most adults would be SHOCKED at how articulate our kids can be- good post! #edchat jrwolfe 2/22/11 7:34 PM @mrsenorhill It's not about setting students on a path to fulfill some need - it's about what the mktplace demands:creative thinkers #edchat

mbteach 2/22/11 7:34 PM to students is SO important #edchat

@kylepace your post about listening

tborash 2/22/11 7:34 PM RT @debbiefuco: The real issues in ed reform is that different people have different views of what the purpose of education is #edchat fliegs 2/22/11 7:34 PM @ToughLoveforX Absolutely, start local. Talk with parents and the community about what NCLB/RttT does to learning. #edchat jakramer2 2/22/11 7:34 PM @web20classroom Pardon the expression, I am the geek in the building, and the only male teacher that does not coach. Pressure! #edchat web20classroom 2/22/11 7:34 PM challenging are important. #edchat @fliegs Definitely. Sharing and

jillsiefken 2/22/11 7:34 PM RT @missalyssa74: RT @web20classroom: RT @ShellTerrell: Digital portfolio ideas 4 parent-teacher conf days http://bit.ly/f3HMFv #edchat via @leightonfb ksivick2/22/11 7:34 PM problem right there #edchat @djgallagher parents nonexistence?, #1

mrsebiology 2/22/11 7:34 PM What people don't understand about true, deep learning is that it takes time. . much more than traditional recall methods. #edchat JasonFlom 2/22/11 7:34 PM Yes! This is great! 17 yr old on #WIunion. RT @kylepace: @JasonFlom @mbteach Here's the link to that: http://youtu.be/93n8RZjkCgE #edchat reasoningmind #edchat 2/22/11 7:34 PM @mtoran topic is #edreform

WendyE40 2/22/11 7:35 PM Vallas and Duncan, briefly. #edchat brophycat 2/22/11 7:35 PM #edchat tonight; just got here esinglet 2/22/11 7:35 PM relevant PD is offered. #edchat

@mbteach Yup. I taught in C'go under I'm a tad confused about the TOPIC for @tomwhitby we need to insure that

MarkMNW 2/22/11 7:35 PM RT @B_Wagoner: We need parents to stand up and demand something other than a factory model school for their students. That would be powerful. #edchat

mrsenorhill 2/22/11 demand that #edchat

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@jrwolfe But not all marketplaces

JoAnnJ68 2/22/11 7:35 PM RT @AyaAcademy: The only thing that will 'turn around' schools are teachers -->dedicated, passionate, skilled teachers #edchat ZeniaMc79 2/22/11 7:35 PM RT @AyaAcademy: The only thing that will 'turn around' schools are teachers -->dedicated, passionate, skilled teachers #edchat FrankBeard 2/22/11 7:35 PM RT @fliegs: @ToughLoveforX Absolutely, start local. Talk with parents and the community about what NCLB/RttT does to learning. #edchat elephantsgerald 2/22/11 7:35 PM @erinneo It's all in the styledoes the competitor make you look bad, or excitedly offer to share if you show interest? #edchat math2go 2/22/11 7:35 PM RT @scfuhs: @reasoningmind we need to first get them to care! I'd love to see more community members in my classroom #edchat & in schools! mrsenorhill 2/22/11 7:35 PM @ian23505 And for the record, that's not a metaphor for the kids. They're fine : ) #edchat B_Wagoner 2/22/11 7:35 PM We need parents to stand up and demand something other than a factory model school for their students. That would be powerful. #edchat ljhardin 2/22/11 7:35 PM @21stprincipal Physical arrangement not a clear indicator. It would be better to observe what is happening in that room #edchat fliegs 2/22/11 7:35 PM RT @AyaAcademy: The only thing that will turn around schools are teachers -->dedicated, passionate, skilled teachers #edchat esinglet 2/22/11 7:35 PM RT @AyaAcademy: The only thing that will 'turn around' schools are teachers -->dedicated, passionate, skilled teachers #edchat tomwhitby 2/22/11 7:35 PM How do we get teachers to be willing to get up to speed and relevant with PD? #Edchat ambikadani 2/22/11 7:35 PM @AyaAcademy i agree, i think we're not focusing enough on the roles we play and the reform we are capable of #edchat

pcwoessner 2/22/11 7:35 PM I'll second that: RT @budtheteacher: Yes. @garystager on IWBs. http://bit.ly/fsWxBF #edchat web20classroom 2/22/11 7:35 PM RT @mbteach: @kylepace your post about listening to students is SO important #edchat <-Yep. Read it. djgallagher 2/22/11 7:35 PM RT @jessievaz12: Let's promote that teachers are dedicate and on the cutting edge. That we move the world forward through the students. #edchat TechCzech 2/22/11 7:35 PM We talk about obstacles to reform in education as if all reform is good. There are reforms that need obstacles: http://ow.ly/41vCD #edchat mbteach 2/22/11 7:35 PM @WendyE40 we've had both Paul Vallas (Chicago->Philly->N.Orl) and Ackerman (SanFran->Philly->??) #edchat reasoningmind 2/22/11 7:35 PM @mrsebiology true, but how do we know how much time it should take? and what pushes you to push that student? #edchat reasoningmind 2/22/11 7:36 PM RT @scfuhs: @reasoningmind we need to first get them to care! I'd love to see more community members in my classroom #edchat FWSprincipal 2/22/11 7:36 PM RT @AyaAcademy: The only thing that will 'turn around' schools are teachers -->dedicated, passionate, skilled teachers #edchat admins too! jakramer2 2/22/11 7:36 PM @tomwhitby Offer them valuable PD. I have been speaking blue in the face to my colleagues they need to get on Twitter. None have. #edchat krains 2/22/11 7:36 PM cries for reform then? #edchat @mtechman And, why were there not loud

kylepace 2/22/11 7:36 PM @brophycat Here's the topic that was voted for: What are the real issues surrounding Education Reform? #edchat debbiefuco 2/22/11 7:36 PM RT @markbarnes19: hey @ktenkely, "What's right with education" #edchat ~ good place to start helpourschools 2/22/11 7:36 PM tripod project has student surveys that correlate with other measures of teacher effectiveness. we all know who our best tchrs were #edchat edtechsteve 2/22/11 7:36 PM @brophycat it's one of those that are wiiiide open- what is real ed reform...or something like that. :) #edchat

math2go 2/22/11 7:36 PM RT @tomwhitby: How do we get teachers to be willing to get up to speed and relevant with PD? #Edchat <good ? provide and most will follow? reasoningmind 2/22/11 7:36 PM @nunavut_teacher there are some parts of teaching that just won't be fun to you. that's where incentives can be helpful. #edchat erinneo 2/22/11 7:36 PM @tomwhitby Give them time afterwards to reflect and implement? #edchat jonbergmann 2/22/11 7:36 PM RT @runfardvs: Just found a gr8 example of another Michigander who is "flipping" his class http://goo.gl/YfnC9 #revlearn #flipclass #edchat ashleydburleson 2/22/11 7:36 PM RT @tborash @debbiefuco: Real issues in ed reform = different people have different views of what the purpose of education is. #edchat EDREFORMERIFFIC 2/22/11 7:36 PM Hey, #Walker, #Immaletyoufinish http://ow.ly/41vFK #WIunion #edchat #edreform cc:@dianeravitch ToughLoveforX 2/22/11 7:36 PM @fliegs Also talk to parents/community about co creating the local agenda for education. Those are natural partners. Not politicos. #edchat JoelFoner 2/22/11 7:36 PM I have to wonder if the starting point of meaningful reform is to define objective measures for non-recall skills. #edchat dovemerson 2/22/11 7:36 PM @tomwhitby i think you try and change the culture with a core group of interested teachers, let it expand from there. #edchat kylepace 2/22/11 7:36 PM @mbteach I can't help but think if applied on a bit larger scale only good things can come from it. #edchat stumpteacher 2/22/11 7:36 PM @jrwolfe @Nunavut_Teacher @reasoningmind @kylepace @mbteach I prefer providing them with engaging activities..learning will follow #edchat jessievaz12 2/22/11 7:36 PM @B_Wagoner Couldn't agree more. we need them on our side. But how when they don't see us as equals? #edchat 21stprincipal 2/22/11 7:36 PM @ljhardin I'm not sure. Desks arranged in discrete roes with podium at front is a good indicator of teacher directed learning. #edchat

mbteach 2/22/11 7:37 PM @kylepace definitely. These kinds of changes take time and a lot of energy. People are impatient and lazy #edchat web20classroom 2/22/11 7:37 PM @ktenkely @mbteach And it gets worse depending on your state. We are looking at losing almost 40% of our funding. Thats huge! #edchat djgallagher 2/22/11 7:37 PM Teachers who make sure student needs and learning are the first priority will help change the negativity. #edchat palmeram 2/22/11 7:37 PM @jakramer2 Keep sharing twttr & Tweetdeck. I showed it 2 my staff cause talking abt it wasn't enough. Now, they're intrigued. :) #edchat ambikadani 2/22/11 7:37 PM @JasonFlom def agree. teachers at my school hate collaborating, how can schools encourage it? #edchat mrsenorhill 2/22/11 7:37 PM @ian23505 That's going to take a longer forum to describe. Have you ever been to an urban school? (not being condescending) #edchat reasoningmind 2/22/11 7:37 PM @jakramer2: @tomwhitby I don't think all educators need to be on twitter. Nor would they all benefit imo. #edchat ZeniaMc79 2/22/11 7:37 PM @scfuhs ditto. Engaging the parents at my school, let alone the wider community, would be a great start. And yet, so difficult. #edchat padgets 2/22/11 formative assessments 7:37 PM #edchat paige Keely is the bomb on

davidwees 2/22/11 7:37 PM @JasonFlom @ksivick And if you use a measure like "failed by x%" then you are drawing an arbitrary line to determine a kids life. #edchat ToughLoveforX 2/22/11 7:37 PM @dovemerson Yep. Connect the outliers and be the change you want to see. The rest will follow it works. @tomwhitby #edchat QZLPatriotHawk 2/22/11 7:37 PM I'll have to admit that it is hard as a parent (even an educated admin) to have my kids' school try something I have never seen b4 #edchat helpourschools 2/22/11 7:37 PM @mbteach @kylepace yes yes yes! listen to students. check out tripod project. #edchat markbarnes19 2/22/11 inspirational chat #edchat 7:37 PM Got to run; thanks for an

jessievaz12 2/22/11 7:37 PM @jakramer2 Me too! How to make it happen? How to be the agent of change in your small part of the ed world? #edchat erinneo 2/22/11 7:37 PM @elephantsgerald I'd say that the sharing part makes it collaboration.. but I think we're saying the same thing =) #edchat brophycat 2/22/11 7:37 PM @kylepace @edtechsteve ahhh that explains it-did naybody say money? It's always about money #edchat mbteach 2/22/11 7:37 PM @brophycat it's about the real issues surrounding edreform. No wonder you're confused ;) #edchat tgrundmeyer 2/22/11 7:37 PM RT @Mrkeenan: @ MrKeenan.com: Hold the door for traditional teaching! http://bit.ly/ik90PG #edchat #edtech #rvsed #lrnchat baldy7 2/22/11 7:37 PM Please share your story here: http://bit.ly/efGcKg new post. #edchat stumpteacher 2/22/11 7:37 PM Student voices have to play a role in the reform. If you ask them they will tell you what they need/want http://bit.ly/hWHhxO #edchat jrwolfe 2/22/11 7:37 PM @mrsenorhill Agreed. In my opinion, it's more important to know how to find answers, than knowing them offhand. #edchat danielespejo 2/22/11 7:37 PM @erinneo @tomwhitby People need to want to change their practice, usually only happens if they see room for improvement #edchat JasonFlom 2/22/11 7:37 PM After reading "the Teaching Gap" I'm more convinced than ever that what matters most is teacher collaboration. #edchat ktenkely 2/22/11 7:37 PM @web20classroom @mbteach Can't believe how much being cut nationwide, soon we will be forced to be much more creative! #edchat #readyornot tomwhitby 2/22/11 7:37 PM How can we align the assessments to the skills we need to teach/develop? #Edchat kkemp70 2/22/11 7:38 PM @B_Wagoner But do parents want different than factory model? How do we get them to reevaulate their goals for schooling? #edchat

2footgiraffe 2/22/11 get way behind.

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Man miss 20 min of #edchat and you

tomschimmer 2/22/11 7:38 PM @Nunavut_Teacher Fair enough...incentives R so varied 2 the indiv. that narrowing 2 "things" ignores so many real social outcomes. #edchat elephantsgerald 2/22/11 7:38 PM @erinneo LOL sometimes people don't want to collaborate. then i guess ill just go ahead and make them look bad! #edchat danielespejo 2/22/11 7:38 PM RT @krains: @21stprincipal The arrangement of the room doesn't mean reform has occurred. #edchat JasonFlom 2/22/11 7:38 PM @ambikadani Culture change is a slow process. I think current waves of reform look for too much change too quick too often. #edchat helpourschools 2/22/11 7:38 PM @JasonFlom great point. we need to open doors, turn on video cameras, structure common planning, share docs/plans... #edchat ian23505 2/22/11 7:38 PM @mrsenorhill I only taught I year in an urban school. Got laid off and never went back. No condescension felt:) #edchat tomwhitby 2/22/11 7:38 PM Twitter is not the answer for everyone, but many would benefit by its use. #Edchat mrsenorhill 2/22/11 7:38 PM RT @stumpteacher: Student voices have to play a role in the reform. If you ask them they will tell you what they need/want http://bit.ly/hWHhxO #edchat Nunavut_Teacher 2/22/11 7:38 PM @reasoningmind Incentive is another word for rewards. There is no need for extrinsic rewards in a class. #edchat jessievaz12 2/22/11 7:38 PM @B_Wagoner Too true but why don't they come when there are parent nights. Learn how the world is diff today and support! #edchat krains 2/22/11 7:38 PM @21stprincipal The arrangement of the room doesn't mean reform has occurred. #edchat cspiezio 2/22/11 7:38 PM RT @ktenkely: Twitter for Mac being throttled, if I'm not answering your #edchat comments it is because I'm not seeing them! brophycat 2/22/11 7:38 PM top or at the bottom? #edchat so, where does edreform start? At the

esinglet 2/22/11 7:38 PM need those topics! #edchat

@jakramer2 that's awful! Students

JoAnnJ68 2/22/11 7:38 PM @tomwhitby my PD has been twitter & it is daily & extensive I share but no one else will join me. #edchat B_Wagoner 2/22/11 7:38 PM Most parents I talk to are shocked when I start talking "broken systems," but they catch on very quickly. We need to communicate #edchat derekspalla 2/22/11 7:38 PM RT @fliegs: The real issue for Ed reform is poverty. Everything else is commentary. #edchat WendyE40 2/22/11 7:38 PM @jakramer2 @tomwhitby Teacher at my school invited anyone interested in edchat to computer lab. to see it together. Interesting idea #edchat AyaAcademy 2/22/11 7:38 PM U cannot make some1 'motivated' 2 excel. Incentives & layoffs won't drive teachers 2 be 'the best' It's incumbant 2 hire the best #edchat dovemerson 2/22/11 7:38 PM @mikevigilant unfortunate...i wonder what would happen if u walked up to the biggest star teacher in the school & asked 2be mentored #edchat Edu_Traveler 2/22/11 7:38 PM RT@edtechsteve: I think "real" reform might only be possible if students lead the way AND the adults listen and get out of the way!#edchat" mikevigilant 2/22/11 7:38 PM #edchat I'd love to scrap the curriculum and do basics with my resource kids, but then I'm in the hotseat when they fail the test. What then ktenkely 2/22/11 7:38 PM Twitter for Mac being throttled, if I'm not answering your #edchat comments it is because I'm not seeing them! malynmawby 2/22/11 7:38 PM RT @ToughLoveforX: @dovemerson Yep. Connect the outliers and be the change you want to see. The rest will follow it works. @tomwhitby #edchat ksivick2/22/11 7:38 PM promotion! #edchat @davidwees I agree, abolish social

dennisswender 2/22/11 7:38 PM So do we get rid of books and come up with lists of website for actual progress or to promote self importance? #edchat #edtech

kathypotts 2/22/11 7:38 PM RT @B_Wagoner: Too many parents trust the system. It worked for them. It's working for their kids, or we tell them it's their kids who are broken. #edchat jakramer2 2/22/11 7:38 PM Just an FYI: I live near Toledo, OH. They are voting tonight to eliminate all gym, music and art teachers in K-8. Reform? Not! #edchat erinneo 2/22/11 7:39 PM @elephantsgerald Even if you make them look bad- if they realise it then you've caused change of some kind! #edchat jrussellteacher 2/22/11 7:39 PM @mbteach @web20classroom @ktenkely how can you have school vouchers without ed funding anyway? Sounds like a non-starter #edchat reasoningmind 2/22/11 7:39 PM @nunavut_teacher: @jrwolfe @stumpteacher @kylepace @mbteach and just fyi I think "perfect teacher" is an oxymoron. #edchat vtdeacon 2/22/11 7:39 PM @21stprincipal that being said just changing the arrangement of the room doesn't make reform #edchat sfincel 2/22/11 7:39 PM RT @web20classroom: RT @bethetigger: Having parents sit in on our classes is important, too! Show them what we are doing to make education great. #edchat mrsenorhill 2/22/11 7:39 PM @JasonFlom As long as the scope of that collaboration goes beyond just the classroom. #edchat L_Hilt 2/22/11 7:39 PM RT @baldy7: Please share your story here: http://bit.ly/efGcKg new post. #edchat jenniferlagarde 2/22/11 7:39 PM RT @web20classroom 10 Reasons To Use Diigo: http://bit.ly/7TI7Lr #tlchat #edchat #edtech jessievaz12 2/22/11 7:39 PM @ToughLoveforX Great advice. I know I need to start small. I'll go looking tomorrow! #edchat scfuhs 2/22/11 7:39 PM @ZeniaMc79 Its amazing how S behavior changes when they know their mom or a neighbor is in the building :-) #edchat ppiinkx 2/22/11 7:39 PM I wnt to knw abt this too.. RT @tomwhitby: How can we align the assessments to the skills we need to teach/develop? #Edchat esinglet 2/22/11 7:39 PM @brophycat it has to come from all sides. people have to be willing to meet & discuss what's best needed for a community #edchat

fliegs 2/22/11 7:39 PM to good schools #edchat

@ToughLoveforX Sure. Parents are essential

teachersharetp 2/22/11 7:39 PM RT @ktenkely: I tend to think that if you walk into staff meetings at it elicits a groan, you are probably doing something right. #edchat #linchpin QZLPatriotHawk 2/22/11 7:39 PM Schools are very afraid as well to try new because it admits to public that they haven't been doing what's best already #edchat jrussellteacher 2/22/11 7:39 PM @tomwhitby I think you have to be very careful not to push teachers past their frustration level, just like with students #Edchat ktenkely 2/22/11 7:39 PM discussion is good :) #edchat @stumpteacher At least we know the

reasoningmind 2/22/11 7:39 PM @nunavut_teacher: @jrwolfe @stumpteacher @kylepace @mbteach you can't be motivated about everything unless ur a perfect teacher. #edchat ksivick2/22/11 7:39 PM move to support track #edchat @davidwees don't call it social promotion ->

kylepace 2/22/11 7:39 PM @brophycat Well I've seen poverty be a big topic tonight as well as involving students. #edchat davidwees 2/22/11 7:39 PM @ksivick You've misread my argument. I'm in favour of social promotion but only with appropriate support. #edchat hshawjr 2/22/11 who does what #edchat 7:39 PM @brophycat and power, who decides

ashleydburleson 2/22/11 7:39 PM djgallagher: Teachers who make sure student needs and learning are the first priority will help change the negativity. #edchat mrami2 2/22/11 7:39 PM Does #edreform start with classroom teachers reflecting, connecting and improving their methods of instruction? #edchat 21stprincipal 2/22/11 7:39 PM @krains Yes, but the arrangment of the room can be a hindrance to changing teaching. #edchat mbteach 2/22/11 7:39 PM @web20classroom @ktenkely we have a new Republican governor who supports school vouchers & wants to slash ed funding :( #edchat

ktenkely 2/22/11 7:39 PM @web20classroom @mbteach We are too in Douglas county- rich district! Getting ridiculous! #edchat ToughLoveforX 2/22/11 7:39 PM @jessievaz12 Find 2 other teachers who get it. One is not enuff. Four is too many. Three is the magic number. #edchat @jakramer2 math2go 2/22/11 7:39 PM RT @ktenkely: I tend to think that if you walk into staff meetings it elicits a groan, you are probably doing something right. #edchat <lol! tomwhitby 2/22/11 7:40 PM If we as educators are so solidly oppossed to High stakes testing, why do we have it? Should that not be a reform we address? #Edchat tomschimmer 2/22/11 7:40 PM Telling teachers how wrong they are will never inspire them to be right. Model the change instead of pointing the finger! #edchat math2go 2/22/11 7:40 PM benefit in being normal! #edchat @ktenkely well there's absolutely no

JasonFlom 2/22/11 7:40 PM @ambikadani @ToughLoveforX True. So, the need then is to capitalize on the rapid & be patient in the doldrums. #edchat web20classroom 2/22/11 7:40 PM @jrussellteacher @mbteach @ktenkely The voucher money would come out of ed funding. Less per-pupil spending. #edchat krusesclassroom 2/22/11 7:40 PM Parents always want the best for their child. We have to convince them this system isn't the best,then they will back us on reform. #edchat erinneo 2/22/11 7:40 PM @danielespejo @krains @21stprincipal But neither does it mean that it hasn't... ah, circular arguments #edchat HansenLaurie 2/22/11 7:40 PM #edchat Hanushek says: good teacher's contribution to the economy could be as much as a half a mil per year http://n.pr/haKQev JoAnnJ68 2/22/11 7:40 PM @jessievaz12 in starting small don't start alone find one other person who you can collaborate with you may just see it grow #edchat

ljhardin 2/22/11 7:40 PM @21stprincipal Could be but may be other reasons. Is it arranged for the custodial staff? Seen that "issue" dictate arrangement :( #edchat 21stprincipal 2/22/11 7:40 PM @vtdeacon Of course not. Not suggesting that. Environment though can be indicator what learning is happening. #edchat kylepace 2/22/11 7:40 PM @jonbecker @JasonFlom @mbteach You mean regarding listening to students? Yeah I'm thinking no one bothered. :) #edchat ktenkely 2/22/11 7:40 PM @hbarlaam @web20classroom @mbteach Couldn't agree more...sometimes forces us to make changes we were afraid to make otherwise. #edchat krains 2/22/11 7:40 PM @21stprincipal The point is that the teacher is key, not the arrangement. #edchat brophycat 2/22/11 7:40 PM @Swanny203 @esinglet i agree-top, bottom and more importantly from within the walls-via kids #edreform #edchat ZAPMommy 2/22/11 7:40 PM Alright, want to start kids blogging w/writers workshop. Thoughts? First steps? #edchat jessievaz12 2/22/11 7:40 PM @B_Wagoner @kkemp70 Sure and we do and will continue to do so. But, when does it become their responsibility too? #edchat reasoningmind 2/22/11 7:40 PM What is really being done to combat the issues in ed reform stemming from poverty? #edchat math2go 2/22/11 7:40 PM If just looking at teachers for effective reform, not looking deep enough. It will require all of us working together. #edchat teachersharetp 2/22/11 7:40 PM @ktenkely That is my favorite thing about twitter . I am surrounded by like minded people. #edchat WendyE40 2/22/11 7:40 PM RT @ktenkely: Twitter for Mac being throttled, if I'm not answering your #edchat comments it is because I'm not seeing them! JoelFoner 2/22/11 chat. #edchat 7:40 PM Have to run - thanks for an interesting

reasoningmind 2/22/11 7:40 PM RT @derekspalla: RT @fliegs: The real issue for Ed reform is poverty. Everything else is commentary. #edchat can we come back to this?

web20classroom 2/22/11 7:40 PM @hbarlaam @ktenkely @mbteach Most definitely. But there is a limit right? #edchat ChrisVacek 2/22/11 7:40 PM WOW. Today: 16yr old Student at our Board meeting: "Aspergers is in my life, but it's not what my life is about". #edchat #spedchat #outcome ToughLoveforX 2/22/11 7:40 PM @JasonFlom Sometimes it's slow. Sometimes it's blindingly fast. Consider Egypt or North Africa. @ambikadani #edchat jrwolfe 2/22/11 7:41 PM Biggest challenge to #edreform? Relying on just teachers & administrators. Let's involve other interested parties! #edchat danielespejo 2/22/11 7:41 PM @erinneo: @danielespejo @krains @21stprincipal classroom arrangement is a start, and a positive indicator, that is for sure. #edchat mbteach 2/22/11 7:41 PM @jonbecker I guess that's what happens when you watch something embedded in TweetDeck. Idaho, sorry. @kylepace @JasonFlom #edchat fliegs 2/22/11 7:41 PM @reasoningmind No one thinks most wealthy schools need fixing (I might disagree). They work great! :) #edchat mrsenorhill 2/22/11 7:41 PM RT @edtechsteve: @reasoningmind From what I've seen, there is a lot of focus on building empathy for impoverished students, but not enough ACTION #edchat reasoningmind 2/22/11 7:41 PM RT @tomschimmer Telling teachers how wrong they r will never inspire them 2 b right. Model the chnge instead of pointing the finger! #edchat ktenkely 2/22/11 :) ha! #edchat 7:41 PM @math2go Glad it is appreciated here

AyaAcademy 2/22/11 7:41 PM RT @stumpteacher: Student voices have to play a role in the reform. If you ask them they will tell you what they need/want http://bit.ly/hWHhxO #edchat padgets office? 2/22/11 7:41 PM #edchat Maybe we should all run for

21stprincipal 2/22/11 7:41 PM @ljhardin I was suggesting that true reform will happen in ed when we move from talking more about what kids are doing not teachers. #edchat

brianDowd 2/22/11 7:41 PM missing so much input on #edchat erinneo 2/22/11 7:41 PM one is a perfect teacher #edchat

can anyone speedread this fast? @reasoningmind Totally disagree- no

edtechsteve 2/22/11 7:41 PM @reasoningmind From what I've seen, there is a lot of focus on building empathy for impoverished students, but not enough ACTION #edchat brophycat 2/22/11 7:41 PM @jrwolfe i really like that idea; so who are the key players to make sure it gets done? #edchat jessievaz12 2/22/11 7:41 PM @tomwhitby Good point but I don't believe it's teachers that are making those decisions. #edchat ToughLoveforX 2/22/11 7:41 PM @jessievaz12 Good luck! If you ever need any 2, just @. I ran project teams for 10k+ hours. I learn a couple of things. #edchat davidwees 2/22/11 7:41 PM @ksivick I'm in favour of changing the language. Note that if the "support track" doesn't really support, it will be vilified too. #edchat Tekkietalk #edchat 2/22/11 7:41 PM This discussion is #edreform, is it not?

anicap 2/22/11 7:41 PM RT @reasoningmind: @nunavut_teacher really? so all of your students want to learn all the time? unever need to push them at all? wow, i want ur class. #edchat yourkidsteacher 2/22/11 7:41 PM For me ed reform starts in my classroom. RT @brophycat so, where does edreform start? At the top or at the bottom? #edchat fliegs 2/22/11 7:41 PM @reasoningmind Sure. Poverty (and related concerns) are the root of failing success in USA. When pols talk they mean poor schs #edchat tim_yocum 2/22/11 7:41 PM I'll second this RT @tomwhitby: Twitter is not the answer for everyone, but many would benefit by its use. #Edchat mrsenorhill 2/22/11 7:42 PM @edtechsteve @reasoningmind And I totally include myself in that concern. #edchat mbteach 2/22/11 7:42 PM @web20classroom @jrussellteacher @ktenkely fiscally it makes no sense, but to voucher supporters, it's parent choice #edchat

davidwees 2/22/11 7:42 PM Okay gotta go, first (and possibly last) play-off game of the season starting soon. #edchat sram_socrates 2/22/11 7:42 PM RT @tim_yocum: I'll second this RT @tomwhitby: Twitter is not the answer for everyone, but many would benefit by its use. #Edchat jrwolfe 2/22/11 7:42 PM @elephantsgerald @mikevigilant @brophycat Isn't that what we're doing by conferencing w/ each other on Twitter? Perfect example #edchat padgets 2/22/11 great way to be! 7:42 PM #edchat me too!@stumpteacher it is a

ambikadani 2/22/11 7:42 PM what about the load on teachers, how can we individualize instruction with 100+ students every day #edchat Tekkietalk 2/22/11 7:42 PM RT @reasoningmindTelling teachers how wrong they r will never inspire them 2 b right. Model the chnge instead ofpointing the finger! #edchat WendyE40 2/22/11 you get behind! 7:42 PM @2footgiraffe Blink in #edchat and

mrsenorhill 2/22/11 7:42 PM @edtechsteve @reasoningmind Too much is done from the outside, from well meaning folks without investment in neighborhood. #edchat ToughLoveforX 2/22/11 7:42 PM @yourkidsteacher top or bottom. Bubbles from the bottom. But when the top gets it, the world can change very quickly. #edchat @brophycat L_Hilt 2/22/11 7:42 PM So excited to see my friends this wknd and learn lots of things! http://j.mp/engrRp #Ntcamp #cpchat #edchat edtechsteve 2/22/11 7:42 PM I truly feel there is a huge untapped resource out there- thousands of tchrs that want to help stdnts in poverty, but have no strats #edchat reasoningmind 2/22/11 7:42 PM @erinneo sorry, you probably missed my next tweet where I said that's impossible lol. #edchat AmyInspires 2/22/11 7:42 PM facilitator for learning. #edchat Resigning as a teacher and being a

helpourschools 2/22/11 7:42 PM teachers need to spk out agnst the worst in their ranks. blindly banding together not good for profession. there is ed malpractice #edchat

stumpteacher 2/22/11 7:42 PM I am reforming the education in my classroom and sharing that will listen. That is what I can control and I will continue to do. #edchat mrsenorhill 2/22/11 7:42 PM @edtechsteve @reasoningmind And not enough well thought out action enacted WITH the communities. #edchat brianDowd 2/22/11 7:42 PM RT @krusesclassroom: Parents always want the best for their child. We have to convince them this system isn't the best,then they will back us on reform. #edchat elephantsgerald 2/22/11 7:42 PM Yes. someone start this. RT @jrwolfe: Bottom up, grassroots level! Was just speaking with @mikevigilant about this #edchat jessievaz12 2/22/11 7:42 PM @ToughLoveforX Yes...DM any advice and support links. It's my goal for this school year! #edchat danielespejo 2/22/11 7:43 PM It always helps when school leaders have time to lead instruction other than just paperwork, budgeting, etc #edchat fliegs 2/22/11 7:43 PM @stumpteacher We need you to talk to those outside of your room. Start with the local community. Tell them why testing is not lrning #edchat web20classroom 2/22/11 7:43 PM RT @stumpteacher: To start with i suggest you resign like I did :) http://bit.ly/hqbVBL #edchat mrjdean 2/22/11 7:43 PM My question is how do we get more people on board with education reform? #edchat rjwassink 2/22/11 7:43 PM #edchat may have just changed my life :) A few huge ideas thanks to y'all. Gotta get working on them! Next week, same time & place #edchat reasoningmind #edchat 2/22/11 7:43 PM @erinneo I'm glad we agree :)

padgets 2/22/11 7:43 PM #edchat I have 127 students takes practice, patience and a whole lot of thinking outside the box web20classroom 2/22/11 7:43 PM @ktenkely @mbteach Funny. LIke that here too. Perhaps that's a problem... #edchat ToughLoveforX 2/22/11 7:43 PM @WendyE40 imo, The deep dysfunction of factory school is factory time. Change that and lots can change more easily. #edchat @helpourschools

stumpteacher 2/22/11 7:43 PM did :) http://bit.ly/hqbVBL #edchat

To start with i suggest you resign like I

davidwees 2/22/11 7:43 PM Before I go, can I recommend we do an #edaction sometime? All agree to meet & take some positive action for reform? #edchat krains 2/22/11 #edchat 7:43 PM @elephantsgerald You have got to be kidding!

reasoningmind 2/22/11 7:43 PM @mrsenorhill: @edtechsteve so perhaps these community advocacy orgs eg: stand for children need a larger presence? #edchat pamfb7557 2/22/11 7:43 PM RT @mikevigilant: @hshawjr #edchat Exactly, need to go back to reteach basics but am told to stick to current stuff. Can't write sentence, must know verbals? jaxbeachteach 2/22/11 7:43 PM RT @web20classroom: Maybe the problem in Education Reform is that we don't know what needs reforming... #edchat edtechsteve 2/22/11 7:43 PM @mrsenorhill Agreed. And it comes across as patronizing. And is viewed that way in the community. #edchat ktenkely 2/22/11 7:43 PM @web20classroom @mbteach Hit or miss on the charters here. Actually hit or miss on private schools too. #edchat mikevigilant 2/22/11 7:43 PM @hshawjr #edchat Exactly, need to go back to reteach basics but am told to stick to current stuff. Can't write sentence, must know verbals? brophycat 2/22/11 7:43 PM @hshawjr so important to include the middle-the kids and parents, as well as community; but have to advocate and share what wrks #edchat elephantsgerald 2/22/11 7:43 PM Rows suck. But my kid's iep says they have to sit flush to the board! #edchat @danielespejo AyaAcademy 2/22/11 7:43 PM RT @reasoningmind: RT @tomschimmer Telling teachers how wrong they r will never inspire them 2 b right. Model the chnge instead of pointing the finger! #edchat 2footgiraffe 2/22/11 7:43 PM I'm out #edchat. great stuff though

hbarlaam 2/22/11 7:43 PM RT @21stprincipal: @ljhardin I was suggesting that true reform will happen in ed when we move from talking more about what kids are doing not teachers. #edchat

tomwhitby 2/22/11 7:43 PM Should educators being empowered to make educational decisions be a focus for reform? Politicians would have less to carp about. #Edchat ToughLoveforX 2/22/11 7:44 PM @brophycat "but have to advocate and share what wrks "#edchat Positive Deviance is a great way to get to sustainable reform. @hshawjr krusesclassroom 2/22/11 7:44 PM @k2quiere You're right, you have to have ideas to share with parents on how you plan to reform. #edchat stumpteacher 2/22/11 7:44 PM @fliegs :) I agree with sharing which is what we do here...must keep doing it. #edchat teachintexas 2/22/11 7:44 PM RT @wlweber: Do the people responsible for reforming education actually understand how it works? #edchat mrsenorhill 2/22/11 7:44 PM @reasoningmind @edtechsteve But yes, community groups should have a greater role and deserve more respect #edchat mbteach 2/22/11 7:44 PM @Nunavut_Teacher @reasoningmind @jrwolfe @stumpteacher @kylepace rewards are a red herring IMHO #edchat Tekkietalk 2/22/11 7:44 PM Love that expression! #edchat #edchat @helpourschools #edmalpractice

AyaAcademy 2/22/11 7:44 PM RT @fliegs: The real issue for Ed reform is poverty. Everything else is commentary. #edchat mikevigilant 2/22/11 7:44 PM @jrwolfe Yes. I'm the only teacher in my school on Twitter--been trying to recruit teachers to #edchat but it's been tough. yourkidsteacher 2/22/11 7:44 PM Right on! RT #edchat @stumpteacher I am reforming the education in my classroom and sharing that will listen (cont) http://deck.ly/~2TrI4 ksivick2/22/11 day #edchat 7:44 PM I'd love to see take a congressman to school

danielespejo 2/22/11 7:44 PM Count me in RT @davidwees: Before I go, can I recommend we do an #edaction - meet & take some positive action for reform? #edchat ljhardin 2/22/11 7:44 PM @21stprincipal Agreed! The discussion should be abt students & how they are engaged in learning daily. That can happen in any space. #edchat

ambikadani 2/22/11 7:44 PM @sram_socrates true, except it's very hard when other teachers have given up and you're alone #edchat QZLPatriotHawk 2/22/11 7:44 PM Do we know what we are aiming for with ed. reform? Many different agendas. #edchat tim_yocum 2/22/11 7:44 PM @brophycat reform begins at both ends of the spectrum. With govt and admins and the family unit. Many clsrm tchrs are on board. #edchat fliegs 2/22/11 read that. #edchat 7:44 PM @stumpteacher Good point, you did resign. I

reasoningmind 2/22/11 7:44 PM @jrwolfe: @Nunavut_Teacher @stumpteacher @kylepace @mbteach exactly. incentives don't have to be money. #edchat vtdeacon 2/22/11 7:44 PM @21stprincipal most certainly! Didn't think you were suggesting that. I do think some think that changing seatimg, etc is enough #edchat mrsenorhill 2/22/11 7:44 PM @reasoningmind @edtechsteve I feel urban teachers need to participate more in these types of conversations. It's what gave me scope #edchat jrwolfe #edchat 2/22/11 7:44 PM @davidwees Fantastic! #edaction

wbarboza 2/22/11 7:44 PM RT @edtechsteve: I truly feel there is a huge untapped resource out there- thousands of tchrs that want to help stdnts in poverty, but have no strats #edchat elephantsgerald 2/22/11 7:44 PM I often wish i could have community guests who are down on ED to visit & see what I do. RT @mrsenorhill: @edtechsteve @reasoningmind #edchat math2go 2/22/11 7:44 PM @elephantsgerald proximal seating doesn't make as much sense in an innovative teacher's classroom #edchat hshawjr 2/22/11 7:44 PM @brophycat yep what does work? That is the million $$ question. What works in 1 dist will not work everywhere #edchat sram_socrates 2/22/11 7:44 PM @ambikadani we individualize by working together and communicating as teachers #edchat ksivick2/22/11 7:44 PM #edchat@ktenkely what private schools generally have is huge increase in parent participation , that's what all schools need #edchat

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@davidwees love the idea, def for it!

21stprincipal 2/22/11 7:44 PM True authentic learning, true reform happens when we can more to student-centered learning. #edchat AmyInspires 2/22/11 7:44 PM Just thought of playing red/green light with fractions with my class! Should be a nice visual for them! #edchat #mathchat stumpteacher 2/22/11 7:45 PM choice on #edchat must go beyond here @fliegs Yes, we are hanging with the

baldy7 2/22/11 7:45 PM @L_Hilt thx for RT. Looking forward to catching up this weekend #edchat k2quiere 2/22/11 7:45 PM @mikevigilant I'm not the only one on twitter, just the only one using it for more than a real-time diary so far. #edchat teachersharetp 2/22/11 7:45 PM @ktenkely exactly I don't feel silly when I bring these things up in my district bc twitter lets me see that it can be done #edchat reasoningmind 2/22/11 7:45 PM @mrsenorhill @edtechsteve I feel EVERYONE needs to participate in these types of conversations. #edchat tomwhitby 2/22/11 7:45 PM @HansenLaurie Motivating teachers to take PD has not worked to date for a vast majority. We may need to approach it differently. #Edchat brophycat 2/22/11 7:45 PM @hshawjr takes an intuitive lder who is a good listener, someone who cultivates leadership among tchers #edchat kwhobbes 2/22/11 7:45 PM @tomwhitby not if you listen to some. Twitter IS the revolution - if you aren't using it you aren't reformed enough. #edchat sram_socrates 2/22/11 7:45 PM @mrjdean are we not doing that right now? Talking about it and generating ideas to use #edchat burris1stgrade 2/22/11 7:45 PM take a congressman to school day #edchat RT @ksivick: I'd love to see

Tekkietalk 2/22/11 7:45 PM @ksivick Yes, but take a Congrssmn to School day would not be a real reflection, now would it? #edchat jessievaz12 2/22/11 7:45 PM @mikevigilant I'm with you! I'm the only one too! Need advice, please! #edchat

fliegs 2/22/11 7:45 PM @stumpteacher We need to do it away from the choir. The preaching needs to happen with other voters #edchat krains 2/22/11 7:45 PM @tomwhitby I agree! Why can we not just ignore high stakes testing? It's like following the latest trend! Don't do it! #edchat Nunavut_Teacher 2/22/11 7:45 PM RT @mbteach: @Nunavut_Teacher @reasoningmind @jrwolfe @stumpteacher @kylepace rewards are a red herring IMHO #edchat 21stprincipal 2/22/11 7:45 PM @vtdeacon That's the same mistake made about open schools. They built schools with classrooms without walls. Nuts! #edchat mrsenorhill 2/22/11 7:45 PM @reasoningmind @edtechsteve In low-income neighborhoods, the church, the community center, and the school are key for many #edchat Nunavut_Teacher 2/22/11 7:45 PM @reasoningmind @jrwolfe This explains what I am talking about. http://bit.ly/gcf7ip http://bit.ly/cWQXI0 Alfie Kohn #edchat reasoningmind 2/22/11 7:45 PM RT @ksivick @ktenkely what private schools generally have is huge increase in parent participation , that's what all schools need #edchat jakramer2 2/22/11 7:45 PM I started a blog at the beginning of the year, hoping to blog once a week. If that would lead to + reform, I would blog every day! #edchat mikevigilant 2/22/11 7:45 PM congressman to school day #edchat esinglet 2/22/11 7:45 PM RT @ksivick: I'd love to see take a Enjoyed the conversation. #edchat

elephantsgerald 2/22/11 7:46 PM @ambikadani I individualize by having deadlines 3 days after last class time. those who need more time have it, while class moves on #edchat ToughLoveforX 2/22/11 7:46 PM @Tekkietalk @helpourschools Turns out #edumalpractice aint' just foolin around. here's a lawyer's brief. http://ilnk.me/3ed1 #edchat mtechman 2/22/11 7:46 PM RT @edtechsteve: @mrsenorhill @reasoningmind @edtechsteve Scary thing is that a lot of ed reform for "those kids" = increase structure/limit freedom #edchat

tomschimmer 2/22/11 7:46 PM I think there is a big difference between "personalized" and "individualized" I'm not sure the latter is possible...thoughts? #edchat math2go 2/22/11 7:46 PM RT @jessievaz12: Hear hear! RT @reasoningmind: @mrsenorhill @edtechsteve I feel EVERYONE needs to participate in these types of conversations. #edchat hshawjr 2/22/11 7:46 PM @brophycat gee how do we create more of them, not just in our admins - sounds like we need them in politics and govnment too #edchat 1nbm 2/22/11 7:46 PM RT @uscedu67: If you want to be a good teacher, remember what it was like to be a student #edchat LisaJacka 2/22/11 7:46 PM RT @joe_bower: Teachers who blame students for being bored is the equivalent to yelling at the hammer after you strike your own thumb. #abed #edchat stumpteacher 2/22/11 7:46 PM RT @uscedu67: If you want to be a good teacher, remember what it was like to be a student #edchat uscedu67 2/22/11 7:46 PM If you want to be a good teacher, remember what it was like to be a student #edchat jessievaz12 2/22/11 7:46 PM Hear hear! RT @reasoningmind: @mrsenorhill @edtechsteve I feel EVERYONE needs to participate in these types of conversations. #edchat teachintexas 2/22/11 7:46 PM Trying 2 convince voting taxpayers & skool boards that the world has changed; cursive & keyboarding arnt cutting edge #edchat 2sonsup 2/22/11 7:46 PM #wiunion RT @isteconnects: Support for teachers. Imagine if we questioned drs, lawyers, corp. types the way we do public school tch #edchat mrsenorhill 2/22/11 7:46 PM @elephantsgerald @edtechsteve @reasoningmind Start videotaping and go to them. I've done that with some impact #edchat mikevigilant 2/22/11 7:46 PM @hshawjr Want reform so much, but when I get blasted over scores even though they're years behind and have IEPs, I get so frustrated #edchat edtechsteve 2/22/11 7:46 PM @mrsenorhill @reasoningmind @edtechsteve Scary thing is that a lot of ed reform for "those kids" = increase structure/limit freedom #edchat

mtechman 2/22/11 7:47 PM @edtechsteve too true- 1st thought is often to remove students fr life-giving subjects like art, music (and library!) for remedia... #edchat FrankBeard 2/22/11 7:47 PM A big problem with "reform" is that it's often quick-fix solutions to low performing urban schls, but it's being pushed everywhere #edchat ToughLoveforX 2/22/11 7:47 PM @tomwhitby imo, motivating teachers for PD, is similar to motivating students. It has to be worth the time. #edchat @HansenLaurie _zebrastripes 2/22/11 7:47 PM RT @uscedu67: If you want to be a good teacher, remember what it was like to be a student #edchat web20classroom 2/22/11 7:47 PM RT @Tekkietalk: Have problems believing ed reform is about $-seen amazing things done with just sweat equity & belief & pride-desire & dedication #edchat malynmawby 2/22/11 7:47 PM @Edu_Traveler @gfreducation I didnt say I disagreed but am aware that there r ed reformists who want to do away with it. #edchat reasoningmind 2/22/11 7:47 PM RT @mtechman: RT @edtechsteve: @mrsenorhill @edtechsteve i'm more upset with "those kids" than "more structure." #edchat brophycat 2/22/11 7:47 PM @Tim_Yocum getting gov't involved is important; need all kinds of stakeholders, young and old; politics does matter #edchat vtdeacon 2/22/11 7:47 PM @21stprincipal do true! I have colleagues who went thru those. They tell some great stories! #edchat mikevigilant 2/22/11 7:47 PM that someone. @jrwolfe #edchat @elephantsgerald I think *we* are

Tekkietalk 2/22/11 7:47 PM Have problems believing ed reform is about $-seen amazing things done with just sweat equity & belief & pride-desire & dedication #edchat krains 2/22/11 7:47 PM @ambikadani Face it! There is no magic number of students that would make ed reform a reality. #edchat mrsenorhill 2/22/11 7:47 PM @JasonFlom I don't see why we can't start our own neighborhood schools, run by teachers, artists, designers, scientists, etc. #edchat

JasonFlom 2/22/11 7:47 PM @mrsenorhill Though, building & sustaining those relationships until they r the fabric of tchning & lrning will take some time. #edchat HansenLaurie 2/22/11 7:47 PM RT @uscedu67: If you want to be a good teacher, remember what it was like to be a student #edchat ambikadani 2/22/11 7:47 PM @elephantsgerald that's one way to get started :) i just want time to do much much more #edchat danielespejo 2/22/11 7:47 PM @tomschimmer there are too many terms and definitions that are unclear in our profession #edchat erinneo 2/22/11 7:47 PM never stop being a student #edchat @uscedu67 Or keep learning, and

gfreducation 2/22/11 7:47 PM @reasoningmind private schools also can opt out of state testing and exclude any students that they don't want. #edchat ksivick2/22/11 7:48 PM @djgallagher can't force parents to be involved , that's why this is a bigger societal issue than ed reform #edchat edtechsteve 2/22/11 7:48 PM @michellek107 Exactly- more time to narrow focus on math and lang arts to make minimal gains on meaningless tests! Woot! #edchat mrsenorhill 2/22/11 7:48 PM @edtechsteve @reasoningmind I'm trying to reach out to teachers and kids who feel that less structure and more freedom works #edchat ktenkely 2/22/11 7:48 PM RT @web20classroom: RT @stumpteacher: To start with i suggest you resign like I did :) http://bit.ly/hqbVBL #edchat web20classroom 2/22/11 7:48 PM things that need reforming at all... #edchat @debbiefuco Or if there are

Bob_Munson 2/22/11 7:48 PM @gfreducation Agreed but why is state testing important? #edchat --- translate to life long success tomwhitby 2/22/11 7:48 PM reform from education reform. #Edchat We need to separate Labor and Tax

dovemerson 2/22/11 7:48 PM YES RT @uscedu67: If you want to be a good teacher, remember what it was like to be a student #edchat jrwolfe 2/22/11 7:48 PM @elephantsgerald Haha :) #edchat

HansenLaurie 2/22/11 7:48 PM @uscedu67 "... remember what it was like to be a student" #edchat BEAUTIFUL! Tekkietalk 2/22/11 7:48 PM Exactly! RT @uscedu67: If you want to be a good teacher, remember what it was like to be a student #edchat fliegs 2/22/11 tonight. #edchat 7:48 PM Got to go. Thanks for some great conversation

JasonFlom 2/22/11 7:48 PM @mrsenorhill There are definitely a grassroots movements doing just that, with some interesting results. #edchat mrsenorhill 2/22/11 7:48 PM @edtechsteve @reasoningmind Exactly! Shameless plug #2, but I started @thedisruptdept http://t.co/BpFcL5E for that very reason #edchat reasoningmind 2/22/11 7:48 PM @mtechman: RT @edtechsteve: @mrsenorhill @edtechsteve i feel comfortable imposing structure on "my/our kids" #edchat Taml17 2/22/11 7:48 PM RT @2sonsup: #wiunion RT @isteconnects: Support for teachers. Imagine if we questioned drs, lawyers, corp. types the way we do public school tch #edchat 21stprincipal 2/22/11 7:48 PM Testing is a tool of politicians pushing a political agenda. #edchat True reform won't be measured by bubble sheets. krains 2/22/11 7:48 PM @michellek107 @tomwhitby But what if the teacher refused to care about the results? Then, we'd have ed reform. #edchat ksivick2/22/11 7:48 PM in this economy #edchat @gfreducation hmm ....not so easy to exclude

elephantsgerald 2/22/11 7:48 PM OOOHH NOOO! I was afraid of that! RT @mikevigilant: I think *we* are that someone. @jrwolfe #edchat HansenLaurie 2/22/11 7:48 PM @uscedu67 "If you want to be a good teacher, remember what it was like to be a student" #edchat BEAUTIFUL! djgallagher 2/22/11 7:48 PM @ksivick !00% Parent need to be involved but how do you force parents to do so? #edchat stumpteacher 2/22/11 7:49 PM this year. http://bit.ly/hqbVBL #edchat @kylepace Here is one for me from

reasoningmind 2/22/11 7:49 PM RT @krains: @michellek107 @tomwhitby But what if the teacher refused to care about the results? Then, we'd have ed reform. #edchat

QZLPatriotHawk 2/22/11 7:49 PM I've seen a lot of tweets saying we need reform but not many saying what it should look like . #edchat FrankBeard 2/22/11 7:49 PM RT @21stprincipal: Testing is a tool of politicians pushing a political agenda. #edchat True reform won't be measured by bubble sheets. edtechsteve 2/22/11 7:49 PM @mrsenorhill Thanks very much for sharing that. And thanks for your work. #edchat padgets 2/22/11 7:49 PM #edchat Iowa does have end of course assessments but they are not mandated......yet hshawjr 2/22/11 7:49 PM @Tekkietalk no ed reform is also about power #edchat, but money has a great influence on power padgets 2/22/11 7:49 PM #edchat iowa does have end of course assessments but they are not mandated......yet DouglasCrets 2/22/11 7:49 PM RT @kylepace: What reform is happening in your classroom that has been successful? #edchat web20classroom 2/22/11 7:49 PM @ktenkely @mbteach @jrussellteacher And parent choice doesn't always equal parent voice. Maybe we should focus on the voice first. #edchat EdElements 2/22/11 7:49 PM RT @kylepace: What reform is happening in your classroom that has been successful? #edchat mrjdean 2/22/11 7:49 PM RT @HansenLaurie: @uscedu67 "... remember what it was like to be a student" #edchat BEAUTIFUL! mrsenorhill 2/22/11 Indeed : ) #edchat 7:49 PM @reasoningmind @edtechsteve

gfreducation 2/22/11 7:49 PM Where we are headed is public schools educating the students that private schools don't want. #edchat elephantsgerald 2/22/11 7:49 PM RT @ToughLoveforX: @WendyE40 The deep dysfunction of factory school is factory time. Change that and lots can change more easily #edchat LisaJacka 2/22/11 7:49 PM #edchat It's difficult to see the value in it until you experience it. Something to do with the way it is publicised. Perhaps. ksivick2/22/11 7:50 PM RT @edtechsteve: RT @web20classroom: Parent choice doesnt always equal parent voice. Maybe we should focus on the voice first. <--good point #edchat

stumpteacher 2/22/11 7:50 PM @kylepace And here is an action research project I took on to "change" learning experiences for my students http://bit.ly/fJRxcu #edchat padgets 2/22/11 7:50 PM #edchat reformm to me is a mroe student centered classroom facilitator teacher and tech if wanted WendyE40 2/22/11 7:50 PM @web20classroom @ktenkely @mbteach @jrussellteacher Parent voice + being informed wld be place 2 start. No news not nec good news #edchat yourkidsteacher 2/22/11 7:50 PM That line hasn't been drawn in the press RT @tomwhitby We need to separate Labor and Tax reform from education reform. #Edchat mikevigilant 2/22/11 7:50 PM @elephantsgerald Me too! Really! It's a lot of pressure, and I have lots of drama going on! Where are the veterans on this! @jrwolfe #edchat edtechsteve 2/22/11 7:50 PM RT @web20classroom: Parent choice doesnt always equal parent voice. Maybe we should focus on the voice first. <-good point #edchat reasoningmind 2/22/11 7:50 PM @krains: @michellek107 @tomwhitby but who can afford to do that? your students have to be getting the results to have that freedom. #edchat danielespejo 2/22/11 7:50 PM #terrifying RT @gfreducation: Where we are headed is public schools educating the students that private schools don't want. #edchat ktenkely 2/22/11 7:50 PM @web20classroom @mbteach @jrussellteacher Interesting shift in perspective, I like it! #edchat gfreducation 2/22/11 7:50 PM @Bob_Munson its not except when a school is judged as succeeding or failing based on the test. #edchat jessievaz12 2/22/11 7:50 PM Thanks #edchat for making my first chat enjoyable! gotta run! Are there transcripts? #edchat Tekkietalk 2/22/11 7:50 PM @ksivick @gfreducation If test is given, hard 4 tchr 2 "not care" about results-admin parents even students want 2 know & see grades #edchat debbiefuco 2/22/11 7:50 PM RT @web20classroom: RT @stumpteacher: To start with i suggest you resign like I did :) http://bit.ly/hqbVBL #edchat mrsenorhill 2/22/11 7:50 PM @JasonFlom Who? #edchat

edtechworkshop 2/22/11 7:50 PM @kylepace truthfully, while not perfect, I am happy w/my school (as both tchr & parent). am I under a rock? #edchat JasonFlom 2/22/11 7:50 PM quick stop in. Great, as always. Cheers. Gotta dip, #edchat. Thanks for the

1nbm 2/22/11 7:50 PM Standardised testing is the answer - to the question many politicians are asking. Shame it doesn't solve anything else. #edchat ToughLoveforX 2/22/11 7:50 PM @mrsenorhill my 2 @thedisruptdept is way useful to start to understand teaching in Ubran Schools #edchat @edtechsteve @reasoningmind ktenkely 2/22/11 7:50 PM @teachersharetp It can, many nonbelievers, Twitter gives you place to point and say "here is where it's working" #edchat krains 2/22/11 7:51 PM What if we, as educators, decided ed reform was caring about what a student learned and not how they did on one test? #edchat danielespejo 2/22/11 7:51 PM @tomschimmer someone last week defined to me 'personalized' simply being using relevant examples to the students lives #edchat gfreducation 2/22/11 7:51 PM @Tekkietalk agreed. If the test is given it will be used to judge regardless of the philosophy of admin. #edchat MoodleMcKean 2/22/11 7:51 PM Three wonderful resources for eLearning : @Ignatia Webs: http://bit.ly/e3COzQ #elearning #resources #edchat #edtech brophycat 2/22/11 7:51 PM @tomwhitby as long as tax dollars are paying for ed, you cannot separate them #edchat mrsenorhill 2/22/11 7:51 PM @michellek107 @edtechsteve @reasoningmind @edtechsteve Isn't that so illogical? #edchat reasoningmind 2/22/11 key to ed reform... #edchat 7:51 PM Maybe student engagement is a

ToughLoveforX 2/22/11 7:51 PM @jessievaz12 Feel free to @ or DM whenever you like. Most important is small things fast, figure out what's good, repeat. #edchat

LisaJacka 2/22/11 7:51 PM #edchat PD is too often quick and dirty. Not enough sustainable options. R teachers overworked or just not motivated to change? padgets ELL kids 2/22/11 7:51 PM #edchat I think NCLB was good for our

Edu_Traveler 2/22/11 7:51 PM RT @MotherJones: Eight charts that explain everything that's wrong with America: http://mojo.ly/hiAPmg #edchat Edu_Traveler 2/22/11 7:51 PM RT @MotherJones: Eight charts that explain everything that's wrong with America: http://mojo.ly/hiAPmg #edchat kylepace 2/22/11 7:51 PM like on a typical day? #edchat @darcymullin What does that look

sram_socrates 2/22/11 7:51 PM @ambikadani yes it is, but we are here to support you and work with you, connected and sharing right #edchat tshreve 2/22/11 7:51 PM @mrjdean I would think all the teacher-bashing and events in Wisconsin would shake the cobwebs off of teachers #edchat Tekkietalk 2/22/11 7:51 PM @hshawjr I know power & $ are imprtnt, but if change & progress is seen, $ & power can follow, no? Or being naive? #edchat mrsenorhill 2/22/11 somewhere #edchat 7:51 PM @JasonFlom Of course. But gotta start

erinneo 2/22/11 7:51 PM @kylepace I've had success drawing the student's attention to the value of their grades. (or lack thereof) #edchat web20classroom 2/22/11 7:51 PM @michellek107 @Tekkietalk We actually just made some big cuts to our testing program. Still facing huge money cuts too. #edchat ljhardin 2/22/11 7:51 PM RT AGREE! @21stprincipal Testing is a tool of politicians pushing a political agenda #edchat True reform won't be measured by bubble sheets PicE1 2/22/11 7:51 PM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDZFcDGpL4U&feature=youtube_gda ta_player #edchat QZLPatriotHawk 2/22/11 7:51 PM did reform how we do business now. #edchat Even if NCLB isn't good now it

helpourschools 2/22/11 7:51 PM @mrsenorhill just remember doesn't always work. many kids crave structure. let's not be ideological at their expense. #edchat danielespejo 2/22/11 7:52 PM @erinneo that sounds gr8! wouldn't it be nice if grades weren't so front and centre? #edchat mikevigilant 2/22/11 7:52 PM @jrwolfe But I only teach 4 kids directly...want to get more people in on Twitter to see for themselves...they don't believe me! #edchat padgets 2/22/11 7:52 PM #edchat we have Teacher Learning Teams good start letting teachers decide pd ktenkely 2/22/11 7:52 PM @kylepace Shifting focus of learning onto students instead of on curriculum objectives was huge for me. #edchat jrwolfe 2/22/11 7:52 PM @Nunavut_Teacher @reasoningmind I appreciate the resources, I will follow up with them after #edchat #busiestnightoftheweek ! hshawjr 2/22/11 7:52 PM @Tekkietalk A little maybe, maybe I am just jaded, but fm where I sit power wants to be right & will often skew the data to be right #edchat WendyE40 2/22/11 7:52 PM @jrwolfe I agree to a certain extent, but I get a lot out of being f2f with my colleagues #edchat QZLPatriotHawk 2/22/11 7:52 PM NCLB was forced reform based on public outcry to ed failures. Schools need to be proactive b4 its done to us again. #edchat mrsenorhill 2/22/11 7:52 PM @reasoningmind @mtechman @edtechsteve @edtechsteve point taken. #edchat mbteach 2/22/11 7:52 PM @ktenkely @web20classroom @jrussellteacher we have parents very angry w/what's going on in Philly raising voices to no avail #edchat elephantsgerald 2/22/11 7:52 PM @tamurray Thanks. another is the only extra credit allowed is about the core curriculum points #edchat web20classroom 2/22/11 7:52 PM @WendyE40 @ktenkely @mbteach @jrussellteacher It's always easy to bury our heads and pretend there aren't any problems. #edchat Dontworryteach 2/22/11 7:52 PM RT @tomwhitby: We need to separate Labor and Tax reform from education reform. #Edchat

bethetigger 2/22/11 7:52 PM @kylepace PLCs have helped with the collaboration piece within my district.. sharing best practices. Group effort is key! #edchat akamrt 2/22/11 7:53 PM @tomwhitby #edchat Teachers need to stand up and refuse to administer them! #endthetestingculture edtechsteve 2/22/11 7:53 PM Another step in the right direction is increasing transparency- schools opening their doors/rooms every single day #edchat darcymullin 2/22/11 7:53 PM @kylepace I don't know if it can be explained in 140 characters. Lots of project based learning that they control #edchat mrsenorhill 2/22/11 7:53 PM @helpourschools I'm not talking about opening a door and letting them run around and vote on what they want for snack #edchat web20classroom 2/22/11 7:53 PM @mbteach @ktenkely @jrussellteacher The districts don't want to listen because they are afraid of what they will hear. #edchat reasoningmind 2/22/11 7:53 PM RT @davidwees: Before I go, can I recommend we do an #edaction sometime? All agree to meet & take some positive action for reform? #edchat gfreducation 2/22/11 will get worse. #edchat 7:53 PM @hshawjr maybe in some places but it

jrwolfe 2/22/11 7:53 PM @mikevigilant Hmm, let me give some thought to that. Will plan to blog about it this week! Thx for the idea! #edchat web20classroom 2/22/11 7:53 PM @mbteach @ktenkely @jrussellteacher Thats my point. They have voice but they don't... #edchat ktenkely 2/22/11 7:53 PM @mbteach @web20classroom @jrussellteacher So sad that they feel they have no voice, that is huge problem! #edchat tomschimmer 2/22/11 7:53 PM @danielespejo I think it's more than that. I think it's how we go beyond the core learning. #edchat Wikkistix 2/22/11 7:53 PM RT @padgets: #edchat reformm to me is a mroe student centered classroom facilitator teacher and tech if wanted AmyRass 2/22/11 7:53 PM RT @joe_bower: Teachers who blame students for being bored is the equivalent to yelling at the hammer after you strike your own thumb. #abed #edchat

erinneo 2/22/11 7:53 PM @danielespejo @gfreducation Send them! The idea that schools 'don't want' students is ridiculous. #edchat mrsenorhill 2/22/11 7:53 PM @helpourschools The point is not imposing structure unnecessarily. ALL kids need structure, some just need different kids #edchat reasoningmind 2/22/11 7:53 PM same here. thanks! @jrwolfe: @Nunavut_Teacher I appreciate the resources, I will follow up with them after #edchat #busiestnightoftheweek ! jakramer2 2/22/11 7:53 PM @kylepace My classroom has a lot of technology integration. Kids are into it, parents love it, hoping colleagues see value. #edchat ToughLoveforX 2/22/11 7:53 PM @JasonFlom Help what you can. Don't worry too much about what you can't. Wait for the Tipping Points. imo, pretty soon. #edchat @ambikadani k2quiere 2/22/11 7:53 PM @mikevigilant Haha...I tried that months ago and decided it wasn't for me...almost gave up on twitter. #edchat hshawjr 2/22/11 that? #edchat 7:53 PM @gfreducation Don't we already do

ashleydburleson 2/22/11 7:53 PM RT @QZLPatriotHawk: I've seen a lot of tweets saying we need reform but not many saying what it should look like . #edchat LisaJacka 2/22/11 7:53 PM testing would it have to go away. #edchat If everyone didn't care about

elephantsgerald 2/22/11 7:53 PM Adorable! come again! RT @RjWassink: #edchat may have just changed my life :) A few huge ideas thanks to y'al (cont) http://deck.ly/~iDyoF 21stprincipal 2/22/11 7:53 PM @threemagic That is a whole different issue that needs to be addressed. #edchat gfreducation 2/22/11 7:53 PM @padgets only if you enjoy seeing them fail a test that they have difficulty reading. #edchat mrsenorhill 2/22/11 7:54 PM @michellek107 @edtechsteve @reasoningmind @edtechsteve I believe it was arts education : ) #edchat kylepace 2/22/11 7:54 PM @darcymullin Blog about it! :) #edchat

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danielespejo 2/22/11 7:54 PM @kylepace I seen a teacher design/implement an amazing UDL lesson - it included multiple representing, expressing, and engaging #edchat tshreve 2/22/11 7:54 PM RT @uscedu67: If you want to be a good teacher, remember what it was like to be a student #edchat <-- Agree! mbteach 2/22/11 7:54 PM @web20classroom @ktenkely @jrussellteacher exactly. Decisions have already been made. Letting parents speak is just for show #edchat jakramer2 2/22/11 7:54 PM @krains That is when I was in school. No state testing, no state standards, and teachers had less pressure. Seemed to work. #edchat gfreducation 2/22/11 7:54 PM @erinneo not true. Many private schools don't accept students with behavior problems or IEPs #edchat mikevigilant 2/22/11 7:54 PM I'd die for parents that want more meaningful relationships with me--having coffee with an interested parent, how's that for reform? #edchat reasoningmind 2/22/11 7:54 PM RT @jakramer2 @kylepace My classroom has a lot of technology integration. Kids r in2 it, parents love it, hoping colleagues see valu #edchat WendyE40 2/22/11 7:54 PM @web20classroom @ktenkely @mbteach @jrussellteacher Easy and dangerous. don't understand why some parents don't look very hard #edchat ksivick2/22/11 7:54 PM RT @web20classroom: Thats my point. They have voice but they don't use it #edchat -> exactly, it's a societal problem kkemp70 2/22/11 7:54 PM RT @edtechworkshop: while not perfect, I'm happy w/my school (as both tchr & parent). > totally agree, grt things already happening #edchat 2sonsup 2/22/11 7:54 PM #wiunions RT @edtechsteve: I think the way educators/teachers r being targeted right now suggests we have to amplify student voices #edchat stumpteacher 2/22/11 7:54 PM @edtechsteve We can't be afraid of showing what we do. Open to community/parents #edchat build trust

SamGliksman 2/22/11 7:54 PM The road to reform starts at the end... assessment. It impacts everything from curriculum to teaching & learning. #edchat EducationNY 2/22/11 7:54 PM RT @EdDataCampaign: RT @eschoolnews: Don't miss- Story of the Day: States make gains in building data systems http://ow.ly/416jg #data #edtech #schools #edchat web20classroom 2/22/11 7:54 PM RT @edtechsteve: Another step in the right direction is increasing transparency- schools opening their doors/rooms every single day #edchat stumpteacher 2/22/11 7:54 PM @web20classroom @mbteach @ktenkely @jrussellteacher That is what I was going to say. We don't listen for fear of what they will say. #edchat AyaAcademy 2/22/11 7:54 PM @QZLPatriotHawk ed reform=requiring parents to volunteer each month at school #edchat ToughLoveforX 2/22/11 7:54 PM @jrwolfe Yes! Blended learning. asycnh communications. But usually used to "pave over cow paths." #edchat @elephantsgerald @WendyE40 elephantsgerald 2/22/11 7:54 PM @math2go I am talking about my own biological child, not my student. who suffers education from non innovators. #edchat sram_socrates 2/22/11 7:54 PM the same - a person is an individual #edchat @tomschimmer are they not

danielespejo 2/22/11 7:55 PM @SamGliksman You're right - how can we change if the tool by which we measure doesn't? #edchat kylepace 2/22/11 7:55 PM @jakramer2 Make sure you're sharing about it regularly in some way with them. Invite them in! #edchat QZLPatriotHawk 2/22/11 7:55 PM Small tweaks to system such as adding more tech, gets confused for reform. If the problem is real, overhaul is needed. #edchat sram_socrates 2/22/11 7:55 PM @ashleydburleson @mikevigilant it is going to look different depending on where you are and the support you get is it not #edchat artFling 2/22/11 7:55 PM RT @Nunavut_Teacher: @reasoningmind Incentive is another word for rewards. There is no need for extrinsic rewards in a class. #edchat

ambikadani 2/22/11 7:55 PM @SamGliksman very true, standardized assessment is definitely an obstacle #edchat erinneo 2/22/11 7:55 PM in the way of learning.#edchat @danielespejo Yes, I think grades get

web20classroom 2/22/11 7:55 PM @mbteach @ktenkely @jrussellteacher Which is dumb. Just makes those voices louder and angrier. And that solves nothing. #edchat AyaAcademy 2/22/11 7:55 PM @ksivick @djgallagher Although we cannot force parents to be involved - we should force them to show up #edchat Tekkietalk 2/22/11 7:55 PM @web20classroom @edtechsteve Is it possible to really open your doors, every day with complt transprency? #edchat reasoningmind 2/22/11 7:55 PM RT @stumpteacher: @edtechsteve We can't be afraid of showing what we do. Open to community/parents #edchat build trust darcymullin 2/22/11 7:55 PM @jakramer2 @kylepace I also like to have lots of discussion between students about what they are learning #edchat elephantsgerald 2/22/11 7:55 PM This is my thesis idea. best of digital learning, plus my persuasive personality. #edchat @toughlove4x SamGliksman 2/22/11 7:55 PM When we cut the anchor of standardized assessment, schools will be free to reform their practices. #edchat #edreform tshreve 2/22/11 7:56 PM @21stprincipal We have to decide what is the purpose of ed before we can reform ed. That is the great debate #edchat sjciske 2/22/11 7:56 PM RT @2sonsup: #wiunion RT @isteconnects: Support for teachers. Imagine if we questioned drs, lawyers, corp. types the way we do public school tch #edchat FrankBeard 2/22/11 7:56 PM RT @danielespejo: #terrifying RT @gfreducation: Where we are headed is public schools educating the students that private schools don't want. #edchat DennineD 2/22/11 7:56 PM RT @YearofScienceBC: "All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them. http://ow.ly/40sZK #scichat #edchat #elemchat reasoningmind 2/22/11 7:56 PM RT @danielespejo: @SamGliksman You're right - how can we change if the tool by which we measure doesn't? #edchat

krains 2/22/11 7:56 PM @ZeniaMc79 If educators don't, who does make ed reform decisions? #edchat danielespejo 2/22/11 7:56 PM @erinneo I'm always trying to explore new ways to assess and provide feedback instead of assess and provide % #edchat erinneo 2/22/11 7:56 PM @gfreducation I know, and I think that those schools/policies are anti-educational. #edchat sram_socrates 2/22/11 7:56 PM @LisaJacka testing may go away - not a bad thing, but there would still be assessment #edchat 1nbm 2/22/11 7:56 PM @21stprincipal: If your classroom is like it would've been 70 to 100 years ago, does that mean education can't take place? #edchat mikevigilant 2/22/11 7:56 PM @k2quiere Wasn't for me either, was just reading tweets [news stuff] not posting so much, #edchat has changed how I view/use Twitter now. tomwhitby 2/22/11 7:56 PM BTW Mixing Edu & Polotics: I support the teachers in Wisconsin and I support collective bargaining. #Edchat FWSprincipal 2/22/11 7:56 PM RT @FWSprincipal: Provide opportunity for teacher collaboration to support creativity and the energy needed to inspire reform #edchat jaxbeachteach 2/22/11 7:56 PM @ktenkely @mbteach @web20classroom we have that too! My district is looking at cuts around 97 million...#edchat AyaAcademy 2/22/11 7:56 PM RT @dovemerson: YES RT @uscedu67: If you want to be a good teacher, remember what it was like to be a student #edchat 21stprincipal 2/22/11 7:56 PM ongoing and endless. #edchat Ed reform is never accomplished. It is

reasoningmind 2/22/11 7:56 PM @samgliksman but will it be the right kind of reform? not all reform is good reform. #edchat ekendriss 2/22/11 7:56 PM Is brkdwn now good thing? QT @mrsenorhill: @JasonFlom don't see why can't start schools, run by teachers,designers,scientists, etc. #edchat web20classroom 2/22/11 working anywhere? #edchat 7:56 PM @LisaJacka All? Nothing is

darcymullin 2/22/11 7:57 PM @kylepace I have check it out darcymullin.wordpress.com More to come! #edchat AyaAcademy 2/22/11 7:57 PM RT @Tekkietalk: Have problems believing ed reform is about $-seen amazing things done with just sweat equity & belief & pride-desire & dedication #edchat Tekkietalk 2/22/11 7:57 PM So, all want to make positive changehow do you make change in ur clssroom? Examples? #edchat elephantsgerald 2/22/11 7:57 PM @mikevigilant If nothing else, twitter gives me positive reinforcement and a sense of belonging. My district does not. #edchat jrwolfe 2/22/11 7:57 PM @QZLPatriotHawk A massive disruption of sorts. Adding more tech. won't solve, but adding different tech might. I'm thinking iPad #edchat jakramer2 2/22/11 7:57 PM Got to get going. Thanks #edchat for listening to my ramble! Feels good discussing topics with you and not being labeled! djgallagher 2/22/11 7:57 PM RT @tomwhitby: BTW Mixing Edu & Polotics: I support the teachers in Wisconsin and I support collective bargaining. #Edchat kkemp70 2/22/11 7:57 PM RT @tshreve: @21stprincipal We have to decide what is the purpose of ed before we can reform ed. >SO TRUE! What are the main goals? #edchat padgets share, talk 2/22/11 7:57 PM #edchat go to an edcamp near you,

LisaJacka 2/22/11 7:57 PM @sram_socrates yes nothing wrong with assessment but does it need to involve standardised tests?#edchat FrankBeard 2/22/11 7:57 PM @danielespejo @gfreducation Many wealthy communities will continue to have good schools, but that's definitely true for large cities #edchat edtechsteve 2/22/11 7:57 PM @Tekkietalk @web20classroom I think it's definitely possible. I plan on uStreaming everything I do next year. Open it up! #edchat 21stprincipal 2/22/11 7:57 PM @1nbm Are there better ways to arrange to get even more learning? Are there better ways to structure time? etc. #edchat

AyaAcademy 2/22/11 7:57 PM RT @FrankBeard: A big problem with "reform" is that it's often quick-fix solutions to low performing urban schls, but it's being pushed everywhere #edchat djgallagher 2/22/11 7:57 PM RT @21stprincipal: Ed reform is never accomplished. It is ongoing and endless. #edchat why is that? Then it's not reform uscedu67 2/22/11 7:57 PM @HansenLaurie Thanks Laurie. It dawned on me today that I need to remember the things I enjoyed/disliked as a student. #edchat mrsenorhill 2/22/11 mean brkdwn? #edchat 7:57 PM @ekendriss @jasonflom What do you

k2quiere 2/22/11 7:57 PM RT @tshreve: @21stprincipal We have to decide what is the purpose of ed before we can reform ed. That is the great debate #edchat yourkidsteacher 2/22/11 7:57 PM Teachers do. Politicians don't RT #edchat @krains What if we, as educators, decided ed reform was caring abou (cont) http://deck.ly/~UZyAc hshawjr 2/22/11 7:58 PM RT @k2quiere: RT @tshreve: @21stprincipal We have to decide what is the purpose of ed before we can reform ed. That is the great debate #edchat tkraz 2/22/11 7:58 PM If we had one of these discussions, scheduled and topic planned ahead of time, and invited our principals to lurk, it may be a start #edchat Tekkietalk 2/22/11 7:58 PM RT @21stprincipal: Ed reform is never accomplished. It is ongoing and endless. #edchat EdDebateOnline 2/22/11 7:58 PM Thanks to @alangott for responding - now we've got "Should We Trust Education Research? Part 3" http://bit.ly/gLHADv #edreform #edchat matthewktabor 2/22/11 7:58 PM Thanks to @alangott for responding - now we've got "Should We Trust Education Research? Part 3" http://bit.ly/gLHADv #edreform #edchat mikevigilant 2/22/11 7:58 PM Snap! RT @elephantsgerald: If nothing else, twitter gives me positive reinforcement and a sense of belonging. My district does not. #edchat jakramer2 2/22/11 7:58 PM @kylepace I do all the time. Many invites, no takers! Too much time copying their worksheets and preparing lectures! Ugh! #edchat

ASR513 2/22/11 7:58 PM Impact on student's learning if their parent is there in the classroom observing? I think my kids would flip! #edchat sram_socrates 2/22/11 7:58 PM RT @reasoningmind: RT @stumpteacher: @edtechsteve We can't be afraid of showing what we do. Open to community/parents #edchat build trust teachintexas 2/22/11 7:58 PM Highest paid superintendent in Texas from Beaumont ISD. Base salary of $346,778 per year. Geez! It's not even an exemplary district. #edchat edtechsteve 2/22/11 7:58 PM I think it starts with the man in the mirror. We have to ask him to make a change. #makethatchange #stuckinyourheadnow #edchat 1nbm 2/22/11 7:58 PM @21stprincipal yes, of course. Always will be. But sometimes teachers have to make the best with what they have. #edchat AyaAcademy 2/22/11 7:58 PM @Tekkietalk Your tweet is my fav for the night! edreform doesn't require $$$ just desire and effort! #edchat WendyE40 2/22/11 7:58 PM edcamp near you, share, talk RT @padgets: #edchat go to an

mrsenorhill 2/22/11 7:58 PM @tomwhitby Mix away, a teacher who says she/he isn't political is like a journalist who says she/he is unbiased #edchat mluhtala 2/22/11 7:58 PM Whoa! TwitterBar Firefox ext Very cool! #edchat #edtech #socialmedia #tlchat Not even sure how I got it but I like it NO, I <3it! danielespejo 2/22/11 7:58 PM @tomwhitby but we need to distinguish advocating for ourselves and advocating for our students #edchat tshreve 2/22/11 7:58 PM @kylepace @EdElements The reform in my teaching as been the move toward a more student-centered class. #edchat ktenkely 2/22/11 7:58 PM @jaxbeachteach @mbteach @web20classroom Wow, way too much in every district. #sad #edchat reasoningmind 2/22/11 7:58 PM RT @djgallagher: RT @21stprincipal edreform isn't just your regular reform. We should always be pushing to advance education. #edchat web20classroom 2/22/11 7:58 PM @edtechsteve Thats a great idea. I like it. Wish more would feel they could open their rooms like that. #edchat

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WendyE40 2/22/11 7:58 PM @FrankBeard @danielespejo @gfreducation Even wealthy communities will not have GREAT schools without ongoing reform and eval. #edchat ToughLoveforX 2/22/11 7:58 PM @tshreve @21stprincipal re purpose of Ed. @GraingerEd has an interesting story that Reliance is the purpose. #edchat ktenkely #edchat 2/22/11 7:58 PM @bethetigger Great way to put it!

mrsenorhill 2/22/11 7:58 PM RT @tomwhitby: BTW Mixing Edu & Polotics: I support the teachers in Wisconsin and I support collective bargaining. #Edchat hshawjr 2/22/11 7:58 PM @SamGliksman but many won't, because the standardized test routine is so ingrained into the mindset of the staff, students, & admins #edchat mikevigilant 2/22/11 7:58 PM RT @reasoningmind: RT @danielespejo: @SamGliksman You're right - how can we change if the tool by which we measure doesn't? #edchat Wikkistix 2/22/11 7:58 PM Alphabet Cards. $13.95! Perfect for early learning! http://bit.ly/bstixalphacards #edchat #ece #weteach #teachpreschool 21stprincipal 2/22/11 7:58 PM heart of the ed reform debate. #edchat @kkemp70 And that is essentially the

MCS26501 2/22/11 7:59 PM RT @uscedu67: If you want to be a good teacher, remember what it was like to be a student #edchat seyfert6 2/22/11 7:59 PM RT @tomwhitby: BTW Mixing Edu & Polotics: I support the teachers in Wisconsin and I support collective bargaining. #Edchat 21stprincipal 2/22/11 7:59 PM @kkemp70 And I'm afraid much of the current disagreement is what those goals should be. #edchat kylepace 2/22/11 7:59 PM @tshreve @EdElements That has been a big theme of the last 5 minutes. So many I want to learn more from about this shift. #edchat

sram_socrates 2/22/11 7:59 PM @ASR513 they might flip, or they might be able to teach their parents sonemethings #edchat artFling 2/22/11 7:59 PM RT @djgallagher: Teachers who make sure student needs and learning are the first priority will help change the negativity. #edchat ktenkely 2/22/11 7:59 PM @mbteach As @bethetigger says, you can check off benchmarks, you cannot check off kids. #edchat mrsenorhill 2/22/11 7:59 PM @Tekkietalk I found 30 laptops, loaded them with linux, and implemented 1:1 on my own in an urban school #edchat reasoningmind 2/22/11 7:59 PM Perhaps we need teachers to commit to being lifelong learners and districts to commit to being lifelong reformers? #edchat tomwhitby 2/22/11 7:59 PM Thanks to @mbteach @kylepace @web20classroom for moderating tonight's #Edchat. Watch for the Archives. Thanks all! teachersharetp 2/22/11 7:59 PM RT @ktenkely: @teachersharetp It can, many non-believers, Twitter gives you place to point and say "here is where it's working" #edchat kkemp70 2/22/11 7:59 PM @21stprincipal If we all have same main goals for education, does it matter that we all take diff paths to help our kids get there? #edchat ktenkely 2/22/11 7:59 PM @mbteach140 hard but essence for me is to pay attention to where students are & what they need, not artificial pacing of curriculum. #edchat 21stprincipal 2/22/11 7:59 PM @1nbm Yes, and good teachers are creative in how they use everything including space. #edchat delta_dc 2/22/11 7:59 PM @erinneo we talk w/ preservice tchrs about making subtle shifts in their teaching -i.e. using I statements instead of you statements #edchat mrsenorhill 2/22/11 8:00 PM @reasoningmind @tekkietalk From various sources: business, friends, pawn shops, 1 dumpster, etc. #edchat elephantsgerald 2/22/11 8:00 PM @k2quiere: @mikevigilant: @elephantsgerald @erinneo Everyone asks me on FB where i find all these links.... tweechers! #edchat

WendyE40 2/22/11 8:00 PM RT @krains: RT @tomwhitby: Thanks to @mbteach @kylepace @web20classroom for moderating tonight's #Edchat. Another great one! Thanks! web20classroom 2/22/11 8:00 PM Thanks for another great #edchat! Like us on Facebook: http://on.fb.me/cVWhSG and check out the EDU PLN for more! http://edupln.com reasoningmind conversation! LisaJacka 2/22/11 8:00 PM Thanks #edchat for the great

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@tkraz nice idea. #edchat

ksivick2/22/11 8:00 PM your passion #edchat

Thanks all for tonight's chat , I'm inspired by

stumpteacher 2/22/11 8:00 PM @mbteach @kylepace @web20classroom Thanks for moderating tonight...it was a good one #edchat and I did not get any work done... :) tkraz 2/22/11 8:00 PM @kkemp70 As long as those paths are ultimately good for the students, I agree. #edchat ambikadani 2/22/11 8:00 PM can we dedicate one chat to reform within our own classrooms - share ideas? #edchat darcymullin 2/22/11 8:00 PM RT @AyaAcademy: @Tekkietalk Your tweet is my fav for the night! edreform doesn't require $$$ just desire and effort! #edchat mrsenorhill 2/22/11 8:00 PM @Tekkietalk Now we chat with kids from around the world and work on our own "google projects" that are based on student interest #edchat mrsenorhill 2/22/11 8:00 PM kids thought school was about #edchat @Tekkietalk It transformed what my

krains 2/22/11 8:00 PM RT @tomwhitby: Thanks to @mbteach @kylepace @web20classroom for moderating tonight's #Edchat. Another great one! Thanks! tshreve 2/22/11 8:00 PM RT @tomwhitby: BTW Mixing Edu & Polotics: I support the teachers in Wisconsin and I support collective bargaining. #Edchat Without a doubt! reasoningmind 2/22/11 found 30 laptops? #edchat 8:00 PM @mrsenorhill: @Tekkietalk

danielespejo 2/22/11 sure is getting busy!

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darce80 2/22/11 8:00 PM #vicpln friends - which #tags do u follow specific to your content areas eg #edchat introducing the power of plns on twitter to colleagues padgets 2/22/11 8:00 PM #edchat as always thank you PLN for the great conversation! take care stay safe and tweet you all next time!!! Tekkietalk 2/22/11 8:00 PM RT @tkraz: If we had 1 of these discussions, scheduled and topic planned ahead of time, &invited r principals 2 lurk, may be a start #edchat PicE1 2/22/11 8:00 PM step outside the box...#edchat Being a good teacher means you are willing to

Tekkietalk 2/22/11 8:01 PM @AyaAcademy Thanks! $ sure helps...but some many programs/apps r free add creativity, inspiration & HARD WORK- success #edchat techsavvyed 2/22/11 8:01 PM rabble to be roused tonight! Don't let me down #edchat, I expect

tomschimmer 2/22/11 8:01 PM @elephantsgerald I like choices...less intimidating for tchers to thnk about. We need reform, but must cultivate the desire 2 chnge #edchat darcymullin 2/22/11 8:01 PM @Tekkietalk @21stprincipal well said. That can be daunting for some and reason enough for them never to change. #edchat LisaJacka 2/22/11 8:01 PM @21stprincipal @1nbm Yes but just not enough good teachers.We need to raise the standard for teacher entry into Uni IMO #edchat sram_socrates 2/22/11 8:01 PM @LisaJacka no, i believe that standardized tests serve only two functions the ability to check mem and reading skills - no thought #edchat mikevigilant 2/22/11 8:01 PM @elephantsgerald #edchat I got a couple teachers interested in Twitter when I sent them links to resources I've found on here. Minor reform? krains 2/22/11 8:01 PM @ZeniaMc79 Maybe we need to speak up about the things that really matter. #edreform #edchat bethetigger 2/22/11 inspirational. 8:01 PM Awesome #edchat! Always

teachersharetp 2/22/11 8:01 PM RT @web20classroom: Thanks for another great #edchat! Like us on Facebook: http://on.fb.me/cVWhSG and check ou (cont) http://deck.ly/~gG9sf mrsenorhill 2/22/11 8:01 PM @ekendriss @jasonflom I don't think a teacher-run school reflects systemic failure does it? If anything it highlights our import #edchat djgallagher 2/22/11 8:01 PM Thanks for the conversation #edchat

Nunavut_Teacher 2/22/11 8:01 PM RT @k2quiere: Thanks for the great conversation and food for thought #edchat ljhardin 2/22/11 8:01 PM RT @tshreve: RT @tomwhitby: BTW Mixing Edu & Polotics: I support the teachers in Wisconsin and I support collective bargaining. #Edchat Without a doubt! FWSprincipal 2/22/11 conversation.#edchat 8:01 PM Thanks to all for another spirited

SamGliksman 2/22/11 8:01 PM @reasoningmind Not all reform is good. But we demand that our students try, fail & adapt -so should we. Status quo is failing us. #edchat QZLPatriotHawk 2/22/11 8:01 PM Lot's of great talk tonight, look forward to rereading everyone's great tweets. #edchat 21stprincipal 2/22/11 engagement. 8:01 PM Great #edchat. Enjoyed the

mbteach 2/22/11 8:01 PM @ktenkely @bethetigger interesting. I thought maybe thinking of objectives thru filter of kids #edchat k2quiere 2/22/11 food for thought #edchat 8:01 PM Thanks for the great conversation and

web20classroom 2/22/11 8:01 PM And Remember #Edchat Will Be Talking To @garystager Tomorrow: http://bit.ly/h1L4yg sram_socrates 2/22/11 8:02 PM RT @AyaAcademy: @Tekkietalk Your tweet is my fav for the night! edreform doesn't require $$$ just desire and effort! #edchat elephantsgerald 2/22/11 8:02 PM @tshreve What makes me batty is the anti teacher vitriol. I want them to visit my class! #edchat

yourkidsteacher 2/22/11 8:02 PM Thanks. Great conv. #edchat RT @stumpteacher @mbteach @kylepace @web20classroom Thanks for moderating tonight (cont) http://deck.ly/~Ar2DL erinneo 2/22/11 8:02 PM RT @SamGliksman: @danielespejo Assessment is like an anchor that prevents us from moving the ship in any direction. #edchat mbteach 2/22/11 everyone. #edchat 8:02 PM Thanks for the engaging conversation

brophycat 2/22/11 8:02 PM @jrwolfe @hshawjr @Tim_Yocum @ToughLoveforX @elephantsgerald @hshawjr @yourkidsteacher @esinglet thanks for chatting tonight-#edchat mrsenorhill 2/22/11 8:02 PM Everyone stay on until this thing breaks #edchat can't be over already!

edtechsteve 2/22/11 8:02 PM Time to put girlies to bed- thanks to moderators and all for some interesting conversation- let students lead! G'night! #edchat tshreve 2/22/11 8:02 PM @kkemp70 Main goals? Teachers, Republicans, Democrats, the wealthy, the poor, middle class-all have agenda (goals) #edchat web20classroom 2/22/11 8:02 PM And Thanks To @jswiatek For Maintaining The #Edchat Archive: http://edchat.pbworks.com SamGliksman 2/22/11 8:02 PM @danielespejo Assessment is like an anchor that prevents us from moving the ship in any direction. #edchat mikevigilant 2/22/11 8:03 PM Quote of theday! RT @SamGliksman: @danielespejo Assessment is like an anchor that prevents us from moving the ship in any direction. #edchat justintarte 2/22/11 8:03 PM What kind of teacher are you? Gr8 reflective questions here! http://bit.ly/fHEPne by @d_martin05 #edchat #cpchat #edreform hshawjr 2/22/11 8:03 PM #edchat thanks everyone for great conversation, 1st one I have really participated in in a while felt good :-) NancyW 2/22/11 8:03 PM edit Google Docs? #edchat #edtech ktenkely 2/22/11 about that! #edchat 8:03 PM What is your favorite app to be able to @mbteach @bethetigger Say more

Tekkietalk 2/22/11 8:03 PM RT @krains: RT @tomwhitby: Thanks to @mbteach @kylepace @web20classroom for moderating tonights #Edchat. Another great one!Thanks! #edchat tkraz 2/22/11 8:03 PM @SamGliksman @danielespejo If done well, assessment can be the rudder and oars. #edchat garystager 2/22/11 8:03 PM RT @budtheteacher: Yes. @garystager on IWBs. http://www.techlearning.com/blogs/36842 #edchat danielespejo 2/22/11 8:03 PM @SamGliksman Standardized Assessment can certainly prevent/hinder growth in education systems #edchat sammorra 2/22/11 8:03 PM Great chat. Sorry I had to duck out. Thanks to everyone for an interesting conversation. Will check archive lates. #edchat FrankBeard 2/22/11 8:03 PM I think many would agree there are schools that they wouldn't teach at regardless of the pay. How do we reform those schools? #edchat #openQ 21stprincipal 2/22/11 8:03 PM @LisaJacka All the years I've taught just raising the standard for teacher entry would only result in empty classrooms. #edchat mbteach 2/22/11 8:03 PM Ambitious ;) Have a great night. @stumpteacher work during #edchat?

debbiefuco 2/22/11 8:04 PM RT @tshreve: @kylepace @EdElements reform in my teaching has been the move toward a more studentcentered class. #edchat ~ changed purpose mrsenorhill 2/22/11 8:04 PM @FrankBeard I teach at one of those schools : ) Same way you reform the others, just more work #edchat brophycat 2/22/11 8:04 PM RT @web20classroom: And Remember #Edchat Will Be Talking To @garystager Tomorrow: http://bit.ly/h1L4yg tshreve 2/22/11 8:04 PM @elephantsgerald Very frustrating! There's an agenda by certain groups and teachers are their target. #edchat MrStephenWolfe 2/22/11 8:04 PM Kidblog - Get Kids Excited About Reading and Writing #edtech #edchat #comments4kids #elemchat elephantsgerald 2/22/11 8:04 PM @mikevigilant we need to think of a dramatic problem. Have your coworkers give us a problem to solve! #edchat

delta_dc 2/22/11 8:04 PM Cambourne's research? #edchat

@erinneo are you familiar with Brian

MrBrownPE 2/22/11 8:04 PM RT @SamGliksman: @danielespejo Assessment is like an anchor that prevents us from moving the ship in any direction. #edchat darcymullin 2/22/11 8:04 PM @tomschimmer @elephantsgerald choices will lead to engagement and commitment and people will see the value of change #edchat mrsenorhill 2/22/11 8:05 PM RT @drtimony: Six-figure politicians trying to pay teachers less? Get your house in order. #wiunion #killthebill #wisconsin #edchat k2quiere 2/22/11 8:05 PM RT @SamGliksman: @danielespejo Assessment is like an anchor that prevents us from moving the ship in any direction. #edchat <~~POWERFUL! mrsenorhill 2/22/11 8:05 PM @FrankBeard I also think our reach is larger. More community centers than schools #edchat elephantsgerald 2/22/11 8:06 PM @mikevigilant good! let them know its like bonsai. You have to grow your twitter. #edchat SamGliksman 2/22/11 8:06 PM Reform movement being led by people pulling us in the opposite direction.They want increased assessment and teacher accountability. #edchat ktenkely 2/22/11 8:06 PM Thanks for the great chat and thinking tonight #edchat, dogs circling like vultures, must be dinner time! elephantsgerald 2/22/11 8:06 PM @tomschimmer Especially if the choices don't inconvenience you too much. why not? Choosing is owning. #edchat tim_yocum 2/22/11 8:06 PM Thanks for a great #edchat - an interesting challenge on #tweetdeck on my iPhone. Enjoyed the conversation. ofalvo 2/22/11 8:07 PM RT @NancyW: What is your favorite app to be able to edit Google Docs? #edchat #edtech delta_dc 2/22/11 8:07 PM @erinneo Here's a good place to start

scimann 2/22/11 8:07 PM RT @AngelaMaiers: @shannoninottawa @skype @scimann - don't forget to connect with another class for World Read Aloud Day: http://bit.ly/h2Hn9M #WRAD #edchat

tomschimmer 2/22/11 8:07 PM We need to be clear whther we mean Assessment (AFL) or Assessment (stand. tests)...AfL is definitely not an anchor... #edchat kevinmace 2/22/11 8:07 PM RT @ktenkely: I tend to think that if you walk into staff meetings at it elicits a groan, you are probably doing something right. #edchat #linchpin ktenkely 2/22/11 8:07 PM If you teach rocks and minerals/weathering, this is a GREAT interactive animation from BBC http://t.co/tQvq4ok #edchat #edtech #scichat FrankBeard 2/22/11 8:07 PM @mrsenorhill I taught in one too. Seemed to me that district admin created an environment not conducive to learning. Needs to change #edchat SamGliksman 2/22/11 8:07 PM @tkraz @danielespejo Nothing wrong with assessment per se - just the way it is being implemented. #edchat RitaJKing 2/22/11 8:07 PM Interesting to see #feb17 #jan25 and #edchat tweets in the same stream all talking about necessary cultural shift. ericjuli2/22/11 8:08 PM @scfuhs Totally agree-my administrative program was full of former TFA members. My point during #edchat was to say that TFA isn't a problem tkraz 2/22/11 8:08 PM @SamGliksman @danielespejo Agree. And getting it correct is not easy! #edchat palmeram 2/22/11 8:08 PM RT @FrankBeard: "Reform" is also too influenced by politics. Often being pushed by people who've never even taught. #edchat SO TRUE! sharnon007 2/22/11 8:08 PM RT @neilstephenson: i wish every teacher on twitter would read this: http://bit.ly/fsl2sG such a good sobering paper on technology. #edchat #edtech ktenkely 2/22/11 both! #edchat 8:08 PM @kylepace @mbteach Thanks to you

mrsenorhill 2/22/11 8:08 PM @edtechsteve @JasonFlom @jessievaz12 @elephantgerals @ian23505 @krains @erinneo @joelFoner Thanks for #edchat conversations mrsenorhill 2/22/11 8:08 PM @jrwolfe @reasoningmind @ekendriss @michellek107 @helpourschools @ToughLoveforX Thanks for #edchat conversations

jasontbedell 2/22/11 8:08 PM TeachMeet NJ still has 2 open slots if anyone is interested. Topics up to you. #edchat #tmnj11 DM me if interested. ktenkely 2/22/11 8:08 PM RT @web20classroom: And Remember #Edchat Will Be Talking To @garystager Tomorrow: http://bit.ly/h1L4yg k2quiere 2/22/11 8:08 PM RT @northeagles: we need to clearly define assessment, I believe the educator meant testing. #edchat kkemp70 2/22/11 8:08 PM @tshreve Very true. Common goals? How about well adjusted kids who love learning? Idealistic but puts students before agendas. #edchat kevinmace 2/22/11 8:08 PM RT @ktenkely: @mbteach140 hard but essence for me is to pay attention to where students are & what they need, not artificial pacing of curriculum. #edchat FrankBeard 2/22/11 8:08 PM @mrsenorhill Also seems urban districts too often get leaders who are outside politicians and not educators. That's not helping. #edchat elephantsgerald 2/22/11 8:08 PM Instead of vague #edchat topics, Maybe there is a teacher of the week we focus on ALL their problems! God is in the details @mikevigilant danielespejo 2/22/11 8:08 PM @erinneo always happy to see more local teachers participating in social media for PD #yeg #edchat TeacherReality 2/22/11 8:09 PM RT @21stprincipal: Ed reform is never accomplished. It is ongoing and endless. #edchat mbteach 2/22/11 8:09 PM RT @jasontbedell: TeachMeet NJ still has 2 open slots if anyone is interested. Topics up to you. #edchat #tmnj11 DM me if interested. artFling 2/22/11 8:09 PM #edchat teachers burned out. Not enough time. Multiple duties. Need time and encouragement. Teachers need to make mental space 4 creativity mrsenorhill 2/22/11 8:09 PM @FrankBeard That's certainly true in many respects. Worst of all it's hard to retain the one's who are capable of change #edchat mbteach 2/22/11 8:09 PM @ktenkely @bethetigger looking at learning goals and thinking about how each stdnt will reach/approach them #edchat

EdElements 2/22/11 8:09 PM Student-centered is right, but we have to bring with those students their technology, yes? @tshreve @kylepace @debbiefuco #edchat mikevigilant 2/22/11 8:09 PM The only thing better than #edchat tonight might be the frozen pizza I'm about to get out of the oven! Thanks for the great chat as usual! darcymullin 2/22/11 sharing! 8:09 PM Good night #edchat thanks for

Miss__Butler 2/22/11 8:10 PM RT @uscedu67: If you want to be a good teacher, remember what it was like to be a student #edchat CoachGinsburg 2/22/11 8:10 PM Real ed reform is about holding schools accountable for holding students accountable. #edchat debbiefuco 2/22/11 8:10 PM RT @ksivick: Thanks all for tonight's chat , I'm inspired by your passion #edchat ~ ditto (used to love to sniff them, didn't you?) dakotasmbtx 2/22/11 8:10 PM RT @ktenkely: If you teach rocks and minerals/weathering, this is a GREAT interactive animation from BBC http://t.co/tQvq4ok #edchat #edtech #scichat Madamemoodle 2/22/11 8:10 PM RT @edtechsteve: Another step in the right direction is increasing transparency- schools opening their doors/rooms every single day #edchat DouglasCrets 2/22/11 8:10 PM If people like Aristotle came up with universal truths, why is it so important that Aristotle said it? Publishing rights? #edchat butwait 2/22/11 8:10 PM RT @jasontbedell: TeachMeet NJ still has 2 open slots if anyone is interested. Topics up to you. #edchat #tmnj11 DM me if interested. sammorra 2/22/11 8:10 PM Some ed reform can happen tomorrow when we walk in to our classrooms. What will you change? #edchat jessievaz12 2/22/11 8:10 PM Love this!=>Interactive whiteboards via TechLearning.com http://t.co/oFwK36h #edtech #edchat #ibpyp tomschimmer 2/22/11 8:10 PM Thanks everyone! #edchat

stumpteacher 2/22/11 8:10 PM @mbteach @ktenkely @bethetigger Must understand that not all kids will approach and reach in same manner. #edchat

ambikadani 2/22/11 8:10 PM @artFling very true. problem is those teachers use their duties as an excuse for poor teaching #edchat smartinez411 2/22/11 8:10 PM RT @drtimony: Six-figure politicians trying to pay teachers less? Get your house in order. #wiunion #killthebill #wisconsin #edchat LivescribeK12 2/22/11 8:10 PM SAT and ACT: Whats the scoop at your school? How do you feel about standardized tests? http://huff.to/gkNIlf #edchat #edreform lysmekah 2/22/11 8:11 PM good question RT @tomwhitby: How do we get teachers to be willing to get up to speed and relevant with PD? #Edchat elephantsgerald 2/22/11 8:11 PM @LisaJacka I think new teachers are inadequate not from prep but bc mentorship is so thin. Coteaching should be mandatory yr 1 #edchat karenszymusiak 2/22/11 8:11 PM Listening to John Seely Brown on Elluminate. Loved reading A New Culture of Learning. Join us. http://tr.im/futureofed #edchat #cpchat k2quiere 2/22/11 8:11 PM @northeagles Thanks for the link, there is much to be said about being a leader...some of our admins are like the one talked abt. #edchat ToddAHoffman 2/22/11 8:11 PM Egyptian names baby 'Facebook' #edtech #edchat http://cnet.co/eo1IhY mikevigilant 2/22/11 8:11 PM @elephantsgerald #edchat Love the idea--solve some real, day-to-day problems via Twitter...sounds like a great experience. NancyW 2/22/11 8:12 PM Oops - meant to say what is your favorite iPad app to be able to edit Google Docs? #edtech #edchat mrsenorhill 2/22/11 8:12 PM @elephantsgerald That's certainly something I didn't get when I was 18. Good lesson #edchat malynmawby 2/22/11 8:12 PM Have you heard of the 826 valencia project? now in Sydney as The story factory http://bit.ly/ed5ZUi #edchat #english #literacy via @mimbles Tekkietalk 2/22/11 8:13 PM RT @malynmawby: @Tekkietalk @web20classroom Clear vision and small steps perhaps? #edchat

elephantsgerald 2/22/11 8:13 PM @Tekkietalk I frame everything in learning. i explain my pedagogy. If i have to enforce a BS policy, Im upfront. #edchat mikevigilant 2/22/11 8:13 PM BTW, #edchat, I'm tired of reading about cool conferences in other states. I'm near Atlanta, why don't *we* have this great stuff? #jealousy CoachGinsburg 2/22/11 8:13 PM My recent blog post: ed reform won't happen until we stop enabling students' self-defeating behaviors http://bit.ly/gkCh1g #edchat ambikadani 2/22/11 8:13 PM @elephantsgerald yes, but coteaching with inspirational teachers wiling to collaborate and learn #edchat NewNarrative 2/22/11 8:13 PM RT @JasonFlom: Yes! This is great! 17 yr old on #WIunion. RT @kylepace: @JasonFlom @mbteach Here's the link to that: http://youtu.be/93n8RZjkCgE #edchat stumpteacher 2/22/11 8:13 PM @azjd http://bit.ly/ghlcut #edchat 5 steps to successful learning from

jmalphy 2/22/11 8:14 PM RT @ktenkely: If you teach rocks and minerals/weathering, this is a GREAT interactive animation from BBC http://t.co/tQvq4ok #edchat #edtech #scichat mrsenorhill 2/22/11 8:14 PM @Tekkietalk @reasoningmind Only because I respected them first : ) #edchat justintarte 2/22/11 8:14 PM Nice video by Rick Wormeli "Effecting change in Education" http://youtu.be/dIqJtdaoBI4 #edchat #cpchat #edreform northeagles 2/22/11 8:14 PM @lysmekah I think we need to get them involved in designing what is offered for PD and having our best present for starters #edchat SWFloridaart 2/22/11 8:14 PM RT @artFling: #edchat teachers burned out. Not enough time. Multiple duties. Need time and encouragement. Teachers need to make mental space 4 creativity tshreve 2/22/11 8:14 PM @kkemp70 Too good! Educational, but the politicians would not like it (sarcasm) ;) #edchat ksivick2/22/11 8:15 PM @debbiefuco sniff them? #edchat

ReneeMallo 2/22/11 8:15 PM RT @21stprincipal: Ed reform is never accomplished. It is ongoing and endless. #edchat

elephantsgerald 2/22/11 8:15 PM @mikevigilant LOL. Im a 17 yr veteran but i take a few ppl under my wing and mentor for fun. I can adopt you. #edchat ambikadani 2/22/11 8:15 PM @northeagles but isn't PD too short, it should be a professional week, not just a day #edchat elephantsgerald 2/22/11 8:16 PM RT @mrsenorhill: @tomwhitby Mix away, a teacher who says she/he isn't political is like a journalist who says she/he is unbiased #edchat sharnon007 2/22/11 8:16 PM Doing What Works from EdGov research-based ed practices online... http://j.mp/gFmqYe #edchat #ntchat #elemchat Tekkietalk 2/22/11 8:16 PM RT @edtechsteve: @Tekkietalk @web20classroom I think it's definitely possible. I plan on uStreaming everything I do next year. Open it up! #edchat QZLPatriotHawk 2/22/11 8:17 PM RT @elephantsgerald: RT @mrsenorhill: @tomwhitby Mix away, a teacher who says she/he isn't political is like a journalist who says she/he is unbiased #edchat Tekkietalk 2/22/11 8:17 PM RT @mrsenorhill: @Tekkietalk Now we chat with kids from around the world and work on our own "google projects" that are based on student interest #edchat FrankBeard 2/22/11 8:18 PM Why not just ask teachers what PD they want/need? Much of what I've sat through was completely useless/irrelevant. #edchat ToughLoveforX 2/22/11 8:18 PM RT @elephantsgerald: RT @mrsenorhill: @tomwhitby Mix away, a teacher who says she/he isn't political is like a journalist who says she/he is unbiased #edchat B_Wagoner 2/22/11 8:18 PM RT @RitaJKing: Interesting to see #feb17 #jan25 and #edchat tweets in the same stream all talking about necessary cultural shift. tshreve 2/22/11 8:18 PM @EdElements I advocate and use laptops, handhelds, and smart phones in class. We use class wikis and blogs. #edchat elephantsgerald 2/22/11 8:18 PM @mrsenorhill When new reforms are seen as better because they are new, I sense impending disaster. #edchat

EdElements 2/22/11 8:19 PM RT @tshreve: @EdElements I advocate and use laptops, handhelds, and smart phones in class. We use class wikis and blogs. #edchat elephantsgerald 2/22/11 8:19 PM or making all policies positive keep hands to yourself, instead of "don't touch" @delta_dc: @erinneo #edchat Bob_Munson 2/22/11 8:19 PM PLC's -- Self directed ones #edchat @FrankBeard I am a proponent of

Tekkietalk 2/22/11 8:19 PM RT @mrsenorhill: @Tekkietalk @reasoningmind Only because I respected them first : ) #edchat Mister_Lopez 2/22/11 8:20 PM RT @pammoran: Inside the Writing Process - Don Murray's elegant thought process about writing for audience and purpose http://bit.ly/enk3BU #nwp #edchat elephantsgerald 2/22/11 8:20 PM or answering questions with questions. "where are the scissors? where were they last time?" @delta_dc: @erinneo #edchat kinzigerb 2/22/11 8:20 PM RT @tomwhitby: BTW Mixing Edu & Polotics: I support the teachers in Wisconsin and I support collective bargaining. #Edchat ktenkely 2/22/11 8:20 PM difference doesn't it?! #edchat @burris1stgrade makes amazing

EdElements 2/22/11 8:20 PM Beyond that, what is your view on teaching the higher order web skills like community management, collaboration, design? @tshreve #edchat SWFloridaart 2/22/11 8:20 PM Should I laugh or cry? RT @ToddAHoffman: Egyptian names baby 'Facebook' #edtech #edchat http://cnet.co/eo1IhY mikevigilant 2/22/11 8:21 PM @EdElements I'd love to do web 2.0 but it's tough when I've got kids who can't write sentences. How do I balance the two? #edchat Sarcasticnem 2/22/11 8:21 PM @SamGliksman feeling this. horrible. I prep my kids for life and the exams hinder that but doing poorly affects university prospects #Edchat elephantsgerald 2/22/11 8:21 PM RT @mrsenorhill: @Tekkietalk I found 30 laptops, loaded them with linux, and implemented 1:1 on my own in an urban school #edchat

elephantsgerald 2/22/11 8:21 PM @reasoningmind this can't be forced, or trained. Hire lifelong learners, or all is lost. #edchat ktenkely 2/22/11 8:21 PM @reasoningmind yes, that makes huge difference, takes shift in culture to make that happen! #edchat mrsenorhill 2/22/11 8:21 PM @elephantsgerald Agreed. Do you know @johntspencer? He call strikes a better balance than anyone I know #edchat elephantsgerald 2/22/11 8:22 PM who 'finds' 30 laptops? RT @reasoningmind: @mrsenorhill: @Tekkietalk found 30 laptops? #edchat g4husky 2/22/11 8:22 PM PLN-My friend @mkuntz63 needs our help. Tax group questioning tech integration. Pls share ur posts/research #edtech #edchat DM him pls ,Thks ktenkely 2/22/11 8:22 PM @mbteach that letting parents speak for show happens everywhere. Sad #edchat MoodleMcKean 2/22/11 8:22 PM Dropl.at can make a difference in mlearning and education | E-learning resources http://bit.ly/hNkfWz #edchat #edtech #mlearning #education FrankBeard 2/22/11 8:23 PM @mrsenorhill Absolutely. There's no reason, however, that public school teachers should have to endure horrible working conditions #edchat mikevigilant 2/22/11 8:23 PM I had an 8th grader who couldn't spell "America" -- I went home and cried. Feel so trapped by curriculum that clearly isn't working. #edchat justintarte 2/22/11 8:24 PM Does high school stink? - gr8 questions and gr8 video @d_martin05 @chrislehmann http://bit.ly/g78SBe #edchat #cpchat #ecosys sagerj 2/22/11 8:24 PM RT @isteconnects: Support for teachers. Imagine if we questioned drs, lawyers, corp. types the way we do public school teachers #edchat mrsenorhill 2/22/11 8:24 PM @FrankBeard Of course. It's ironic that the further behind the kid, the less well respected the teacher usually is #edchat elephantsgerald 2/22/11 8:24 PM Dudes. I was in WI yeasterday w a sign that said "this FIB SUPPORTS WI TEACHERS" hers pix http://bit.ly/fc8YxG #edchat

tappedinorg 2/22/11 8:25 PM RT @ktenkely: If you teach rocks and minerals/weathering, this is a GREAT interactive animation from BBC http://t.co/tQvq4ok #edchat #edtech #scichat brianDowd 2/22/11 8:25 PM @bvsdsped @bvsdsped we have Aimsweb, storytown , Read Write Gold #edchat gmbondi 2/22/11 8:25 PM Thx 4 RT @elightkeeper @chrkennedy of Sharing Revolution Redux - Valuing Process over End Product http://bit.ly/gsYumM #edchat #BCed #cpchat elephantsgerald 2/22/11 8:25 PM RT @ambikadani: can we dedicate one chat to reform within our own classrooms - share ideas? #edchat LonelyAtheist 2/22/11 8:25 PM RT @drtimony: Six-figure politicians trying to pay teachers less? Get your house in order. #wiunion #killthebill #wisconsin #edchat techpudding 2/22/11 8:25 PM @mikevigilant Use web 2.0 to teach sentences. Students can find interesting topics to write about for a real audience online. tshreve 2/22/11 8:25 PM @scfuhs The trouble is we (politicians, educators, parents, etc) can't agree on what a good teacher is (agendas). #edchat elephantsgerald 2/22/11 8:26 PM @mrsenorhill That pretty much sounds like my mac lab. 8 years old, running on my sheer willpower. #edchat lhs_lms 2/22/11 8:26 PM RT @stumpteacher: I would like to see teachers in the news more but for the "good" stuff. Too much bad press for our profession right now #edchat jrwolfe 2/22/11 8:26 PM @fnoschese Great post! Will provide feedback more thoroughly via comment #pseudoed #scichat #mathchat #edchat #ntchat danielespejo 2/22/11 8:26 PM RT @techpudding: @mikevigilant Use web 2.0 to teach sentences. Students can find interesting topics to write about for a real audience online. justintarte 2/22/11 8:27 PM How are you changing the world today? By @mark_sanborn http://bit.ly/fGEI8E #edchat #inspiration #ntchat elephantsgerald 2/22/11 8:27 PM RT @mrsenorhill: #edchat can't be over already! Everyone stay on until this thing breaks edteck 2/22/11 8:27 PM RT @MikeGwaltney: My reflection from the AM sessions today at #ITSC11: http://bit.ly/g06H7G #edchat #sschat

tshreve 2/22/11 8:28 PM @EdElements These are trickier and my use of these higher order web skills needs a lot of work. #edchat EmergentMath 2/22/11 8:30 PM This is an amazing actual old timey quiz. http://wp.me/p1jLi5-6f #edchat #mathchat coreydahlevent 2/22/11 8:30 PM Blog posting...and an "Egypt Moment" http://www.flickr.com/photos/coreydahl/5469363821/ #edtech #edchat username date time status

RebeccaTaylor21 2/8/11 7:00 PM interesting topic, especially with a bill being introduced in Indiana tomorrow on education reform #edchat dMully 2/8/11 7:00 PM New blog Post. Inspired by Real Learning http://bit.ly/gUr5JV #edchat #bced cpaterso 2/8/11 7:00 PM STOP multiple choice testing. ("80% of the work US students do in schools is procedural and recall" - Richard Elmore). #edchat rkiker 2/8/11 7:00 PM @mrseholley Awesome! Welcome, shout for help if needed and speak up! #edchat mikevigilant 2/8/11 started! :) #edchat 7:00 PM It's 7PM EST! Let's get this party

cybraryman1 2/8/11 7:00 PM @hurricanemaine #edchat topic:In order to reform education, we need to change the culture.What steps do we need to take to begin the change? Heathrb25 2/8/11 7:00 PM #edchat thanks

kylepace 2/8/11 7:00 PM Welcome to #edchat! Topic: In order to reform education, we need to change the culture. What steps do we need to take to begin the change? allisonletts 2/8/11 7:01 PM how do you get that started? #edchat mbteach 2/8/11 7:01 PM @stumpteacher but as an individual, @rkiker training is key #edchat

mattguthrie 2/8/11 7:01 PM tagging onto @plugusin post, find something small & incremental that makes a difference AND experienced by multiple people #edchat

firecrackercde 2/8/11 7:01 PM RT @GrahamBM: RT @timbuckteeth: Don't confuse education with school http://bit.ly/guVgOh #edchat #purposed #ncr11 kylepace 2/8/11 7:01 PM Does the culture only need to be changed amongst teachers or are students included in that too? #edchat ksivick2/8/11 7:01 PM The key to change is to get started #edchat

hurricanemaine 2/8/11 7:01 PM Insist that everyone in the school community become a self-directed learner. #edchat HansenLaurie 2/8/11 7:01 PM RT @briankotts: 100 Virtual Tours for Education. Highly impressive! http://bit.ly/a0NAUW #edchat #ukedchat #edtech #eduswe #Dkudd lookforsun 2/8/11 7:01 PM #edchat What are the main goals of ed reform? That will help me to think about cultural shift. krains 2/8/11 7:01 PM Step 1: Talk about it. #edchat

k2quiere 2/8/11 7:01 PM We need to move away from numerical and letter grades and into performance-based assessments and grading #edchat stumpteacher 2/8/11 7:01 PM The culture must change and it has to happen with parents, students, teacher, and admin. No one can work alone #edchat sram_socrates 2/8/11 7:01 PM RT @cpaterso: STOP multiple choice testing. ("80% of the work US students do in schools is procedural and recall" - Richard Elmore). #edchat allisonletts 2/8/11 7:02 PM change... is to let go of fear. #edchat RT @cybraryman1: The key to

rkiker 2/8/11 7:02 PM RT @Tech4Learning: We need to LIVE that there can be multiple right ways to construct/deconstruct classrooms. #edchat positivelypt 2/8/11 7:02 PM @kylepace the public really needs 2 understand all the goes into becoming a teacher, & what is involved in being an effective 1 #edchat kylepace 2/8/11 perhaps? #edchat 7:02 PM @mbteach Habits that start at home

HansenLaurie 2/8/11 7:02 PM Make a fan sign for #Valentine 's Day #technology #teaching #kids #edchat http://bit.ly/fFq1b2

akamomteach 2/8/11 7:02 PM RT @LessonPlanet Incorporate Black History into Math http://bit.ly/e5q2Od #edchat #blackedu #blackhistorymonth rkiker 2/8/11 7:02 PM #edchat Talking culture shift is great, but we leaders who are willing to do not talk. Fall on face, no worries, get up, repeat. mbteach 2/8/11 7:02 PM small. Baby steps...#edchat @mattguthrie very important to start

Tech4Learning 2/8/11 7:02 PM We need to LIVE that there can be multiple right ways to construct/deconstruct classrooms. #edchat SNewco 2/8/11 7:02 PM RT @mbteach: If we want school culture to change, first we need to change habits #edchat stumpteacher 2/8/11 7:02 PM @allisonletts Model and share. Talk openly and often with student learning always as the center piece. #edchat mattguthrie 2/8/11 7:02 PM Step 2 - decide on action to take as result of the talk RT @krains: Step 1: Talk about it. #edchat RebeccaTaylor21 2/8/11 7:02 PM Everyone needs to stop blaming everyone else (teachers, parents, admin, students, etc). It doesn't get us anywhere. #edchat lismiss 2/8/11 7:02 PM is to let go of fear. #edchat RT @cybraryman1: The key to change...

web20classroom 2/8/11 7:02 PM RT @mbteach: If we want school culture to change, first we need to change habits #edchat B_Wagoner 2/8/11 7:02 PM True cultural change requires widespread changes in beliefs/values and the structures and systems that frame our schools. #edchat mbteach 2/8/11 7:02 PM first we need to change habits #edchat rgallwitz 2/8/11 and bottom up! #edchat cpaterso 2/8/11 company cartels. #edchat 7:02 PM 7:02 PM If we want school culture to change, Trust, trust , trust. From the top down Break the textbook and testing

Gabewarner 2/8/11 7:03 PM If true change is to happen, it has to be from teachers and parents. There is not enough interaction on a policy level #edchat

kylepace 2/8/11 7:03 PM @B_Wagoner Well said. We have so many "in house" experts that don't give themselves enough credit. #edchat mikevigilant 2/8/11 7:03 PM RT @web20classroom: RT @mbteach: If we want school culture to change, first we need to change habits #edchat Faithflame907 2/8/11 technology? #edchat 7:03 PM @allisonletts as in applying to

lookforsun 2/8/11 7:03 PM RT @rkiker: RT @Tech4Learning: We need to LIVE that there can be multiple right ways to construct/deconstruct classrooms. #edchat annebeninghof 2/8/11 7:03 PM #edchat "occasion is piled high with difficulty & we must rise with th occasion. As our case is new so we must think anew & act anew" Abe L web20classroom 2/8/11 7:03 PM Maybe the first step is to stop worrying about what everyone is saying and focus on making instruction better for our kids. #edchat mikevigilant 2/8/11 7:03 PM #edchat Does change start at the bottom, or the top? Feel like we talk about change all the time but no admin support = beating dead horse? rkiker 2/8/11 7:03 PM Roll with it, I'm in RT @ksivick: Stop being overwhelmed and start practicing what you preach every minute of every day #edchat mattguthrie 2/8/11 7:03 PM @kylepace stdts & parents are part of it. My new grading methods made them part of it b/c it affected them directly #edchat JoAnnJ68 2/8/11 7:03 PM RT@B_Wagoner True cultural change requires widespread changes beliefs/values and the structures and systems that frame our schools. #edchat robinellis 2/8/11 7:03 PM @kylepace open conversation around what culture you want to create, students educators parents involved #edchat mbteach 2/8/11 7:03 PM @kylepace I think that until teachers see the light, students won't be included no matter what #edchat sram_socrates 2/8/11 7:03 PM open to the talk and change #edchat lookforsun 2/8/11 habits need change? 7:03 PM @krains I would say step 2 be

@SNewco @mbteach #edchat - which

krains 2/8/11 7:03 PM all learn together! #edchat

Culture change? Get the sage off the stage and

tomwhitby 2/8/11 7:03 PM People need to understand that education and learning may be a common experience but that doesn't make everyone an expert. #Edchat ksivick2/8/11 7:03 PM Stop being overwhelmed and start practicing what you preach every minute of every day #edchat cpaterso 2/8/11 7:03 PM The starting point is a common agreement about the purpose of schooling. #edchat B_Wagoner 2/8/11 7:03 PM We need to stop looking to outside "experts" to solve our problems; instead, dig in, embrace and solve our own problems. #edchat mrg_3 2/8/11 7:03 PM RT@stumpteacher: For those new to twitter and jumping into their first #edchat check this out http://bit.ly/fxnHRQ #evscnetwork Faithflame907 2/8/11 7:03 PM @lookforsun good question! maybe to try to tailor lessons more to students' experiences? (Dewey concept) #edchat Faithflame907 2/8/11 7:04 PM @Gabewarner do you mean stop worrying about the test requirements students need to fulfill and pass? #edchat positivelypt 2/8/11 7:04 PM also, develop relationships between parents, teachers, and community as a PARTNERSHIP for education -- no one is against any1 #edchat web20classroom 2/8/11 7:04 PM Seems to me we do a whole lot of listening to things and people that don't matter. We are sweating the small stuff. #edchat mikevigilant 2/8/11 7:04 PM RT @annebeninghof: #edchat "occasion is piled high with difficulty & we must rise with th occasion. As our case is new so we must think anew & act anew" Abe L michellek107 2/8/11 7:04 PM @kylepace #edchat culture changeEVERYWHERE. Teachers, admins, parents, students, post-secondary: need to rethink idea of "school." mbteach 2/8/11 7:04 PM @kylepace or even habits we have in our teaching style that are hard to break #edchat

Saskateach 2/8/11 7:04 PM RT @B_Wagoner: We need to stop looking to outside "experts" to solve our problems; instead, dig in, embrace and solve our own problems. #edchat mrseholley 2/8/11 7:04 PM education everyone benefits #edchat When parents care about their child's

jrwolfe 2/8/11 7:04 PM RT @stumpteacher: @allisonletts Model and share. Talk openly and often with student learning always as the center piece. #edchat rkiker 2/8/11 7:04 PM This woman is brilliant-listen RT @robinellis open convo around what culture you want to create, students educators parents involved #edchat RebeccaTaylor21 2/8/11 7:04 PM parents HAVE to be on board. We need to change the culture of the nation, not just our schools. Education needs to be valued. #edchat Nunavut_Teacher 2/8/11 7:04 PM RT @tomwhitby: People need to understand that education and learning may be a common experience but that doesn't make everyone an expert. #Edchat cybraryman1 2/8/11 7:04 PM @HansenLaurie #edchat topic:In order to reform education, we need to change the culture.What steps do we need to take to begin the change? rgallwitz 2/8/11 7:04 PM We need to value the emotional relationships teacher have with students. You cannot quantify it or assess it. #edchat stumpteacher 2/8/11 7:04 PM As Michael Jackon said, "I'm starting with the man in the mirror..." Must start within each teacher and grow from there. #edchat HansenLaurie 2/8/11 7:04 PM result of tonight's poll for #edchat topic @web20classroom May I ask the

literacyspark 2/8/11 7:04 PM Elevate teachers to their rightful place as professionals then support that with quality PD #edchat lookforsun dialogue! 2/8/11 7:04 PM @robinellis @kylepace #edchat Yes,

Gabewarner 2/8/11 7:04 PM RT @web20classroom: Maybe the first step is to stop worrying about what everyone is saying and focus on making instruction better for our kids. #edchat

mbteach 2/8/11 7:04 PM @kylepace I'm thinking things like using email only for communication--no paper #edchat lookforsun 2/8/11 7:05 PM @datadiva #edchat - Positive attitude is key - open to new ideas, while not abandoning positive ideas and practices of the past. djgallagher 2/8/11 7:05 PM #edchat

mbteach 2/8/11 7:05 PM @lookforsun @kylepace it was kind of a metaphor for little things that we take for granted #edchat stumpteacher 2/8/11 7:05 PM @thenerdyteacher Agreed, too much change too fast is actually detrimental to the overall process. #edchat rkiker 2/8/11 7:05 PM @rgallwitz EQ is huge, quality relationships and a focus on students first is a driving action. #edchat educatoral 2/8/11 7:05 PM In order to change our culture we need to re-eval what we do. Don't do something just because it was done to us. Ask why! #edchat web20classroom 2/8/11 7:05 PM So maybe if we ignore what talking heads and pundits say we can focus on making instruction great and that will shift discussions. #edchat kylepace 2/8/11 7:05 PM @mbteach @michellek107 Absolutely. We can all get way too deep in our own comfort zones sometimes. #edchat engagingEDU 2/8/11 7:05 PM @lookforsun @SNewco @mbteach habits like using assessment as punishment instead of an indicator of mastery? #edchat tomwhitby 2/8/11 7:05 PM and not adversaries. #Edchat Teachers must view parents as allies

techfacil 2/8/11 7:05 PM @literacyspark But teachers have to act like professionals- own their own learning, etc. #edchat annebeninghof 2/8/11 7:05 PM #edchat J. Maxwell book "Everyone Communicates, Few Connect" good ideas for building connections stumpteacher 2/8/11 7:05 PM You need to quite teaching... "Resign" and reap the benefits. http://bit.ly/hqbVBL #edchat mikevigilant 2/8/11 7:05 PM I need this hung on my class wall RT @ksivick: Stop being overwhelmed and start practicing what you preach every minute of every day #edchat

mbteach 2/8/11 7:05 PM @lookforsun @SNewco if you're used to teaching w/a workbook or if you are used to demerits & reward systems change it #edchat WackJacq 2/8/11 7:05 PM #edchat To change the culture of education you must change the beliefs of educators , which isn't easy. JoAnnJ68 2/8/11 7:05 PM Respect a person for their view point but agree that we may disagree #edchat cybraryman1 2/8/11 7:05 PM @j_calderon #edchat topic:In order to reform education, we need to change the culture.What steps do we need to take to begin the change? cybraryman1 2/8/11 7:05 PM @j_calderon #edchat topic:In order to reform education, we need to change the culture.What steps do we need to take to begin the change? justintarte 2/8/11 7:05 PM RT @TheNerdyTeacher: Starting small is the biggest step that can be taken to change a culture. Large steps often scare people and prevent real change. #edchat ksivick2/8/11 7:05 PM Steps to begin change.-> #1 change your classroom and invite others in Build a following . #edchat datadiva 2/8/11 7:05 PM I don't think culture will ever change if ppl insist "traditional" is always bad & new is good. Bashing practice doesn't = change. #edchat j_calderon 2/8/11 7:05 PM Almost time for #EdChat !!!

lookforsun 2/8/11 7:05 PM @mbteach @kylepace #edchat Email is good for some things, dialogue others, and still paper for others - many avenues for good communication. readingteachsu 2/8/11 7:05 PM RT @edReformer: 7 essential elements of project-based learning http://bit.ly/fID2f8 #blendedlearning #onlinelearning #edchat TheNerdyTeacher 2/8/11 7:05 PM Starting small is the biggest step that can be taken to change a culture. Large steps often scare people and prevent real change. #edchat edtechworkshop 2/8/11 7:06 PM drive-by. have to live it to learn it. #edchat robinellis 2/8/11 7:06 PM and not adversaries #edchat PD must be embedded, not

Teachers must view parents as allies

mrseholley 2/8/11 7:06 PM #edchat who knows more about a child than a parent and a teacher =? They must work together to educate a child jrwolfe 2/8/11 7:06 PM @thenerdyteacher thr is something 2 B said abt large jumps w/ substantial disruption while still choosing UR battle wisely. #edchat Faithflame907 2/8/11 7:06 PM @cybraryman1 first take an ethnographic stance. realize that not every student has had the standard "american experience" #edchat BrdCmpbll 2/8/11 7:06 PM Also as we push for changes it would be nice to not feel all alone #edchat and twitter are nice. Allies in building are huge annebeninghof 2/8/11 7:06 PM RT @ksivick: another step, promote, promote, promote we often fail to shine our light, we need to get the word out #edchat web20classroom 2/8/11 great place to start. #edchat 7:06 PM @sram_socrates Sure. That is a

readingteachsu 2/8/11 7:06 PM RT @ksivick: Steps to begin change.-> #1 change your classroom and invite others in Build a following . #edchat lookforsun 2/8/11 7:06 PM @engagingEDU @SNewco @mbteach #edchat Agreed - assessment should promote greater learning, not punishment. WackJacq 2/8/11 7:06 PM RT @educatoral: In order 2 change R culture we need 2 re-eval wht we do. dont do something just b/c it was done 2 us. Ask y! #edchat mattguthrie 2/8/11 7:06 PM even with small steps, must have a goal destination. What are the dealbreakers & what are the items w/flexibility? #edchat Nunavut_Teacher 2/8/11 7:06 PM Teachers should stop being the gatekeepers of knowledge and let students explore. #edchat 2footgiraffe 2/8/11 7:06 PM RT @tomwhitby: Parents must view teachers as allies and not adversaries. #edchat allisonletts 2/8/11 7:06 PM #edchat

allisonletts 2/8/11 7:06 PM RT @stumpteacher: @thenerdyteacher Agreed, too much change too fast is actually detrimental to the overall process. #edchat

isteconnects 2/8/11 7:06 PM RT @JoAnnJ68: Respect a person for their view point but agree that we may disagree #edchat readingteachsu 2/8/11 7:06 PM RT @JoAnnJ68: Respect a person for their view point but agree that we may disagree #edchat sarahjenness 2/8/11 7:06 PM geoffrey canada talk... he said u can't just change the tchers and principal and expect change...culture is deeply embedded #edchat sram_socrates 2/8/11 7:06 PM @web20classroom in other words some differentiated learning - with student input and involvement #edchat ksivick2/8/11 7:06 PM another step, promote, promote, promote we often fail to shine our light, we need to get the word out #edchat kylepace 2/8/11 7:06 PM @tomwhitby And vice versa. #edchat

readingteachsu 2/8/11 7:06 PM RT @mikevigilant: I need this hung on my class wall RT @ksivick: Stop being overwhelmed and start practicing what you preach every minute of every day #edchat cybraryman1 2/8/11 7:06 PM @djgallagher #edchat topic:In order to reform education, we need to change the culture.What steps do we need to take to begin the change? tomwhitby 2/8/11 7:06 PM and not adversaries. #Edchat carolgau 2/8/11 order to change. 7:06 PM Parents must view teachers as allies #edchat We need to have a goal in need to realize that change is

pete_rodrigues 2/8/11 7:07 PM going to be bumpy and uncomfortable #edchat

allisonletts 2/8/11 7:07 PM @Heathrb25 what would you use to measure/judge quality teaching? #edchat Edu_Traveler 2/8/11 7:07 PM RT @justintarte @plugusin: Sustainable change in schools: http://bit.ly/gmkW9d #edchat #cpchat #ecosys djgallagher 2/8/11 7:07 PM We need to assess what our culture is first, I know I have members of my staff are in deficit thinking mode about students #edchat Faithflame907 2/8/11 7:07 PM RT @cpaterso: Help teachers become comfortable with the role of learner. I like that comment. #edchat

Big_D1970 2/8/11 7:07 PM #edchat Expecting others to change first will not make the change you desire hurricanemaine 2/8/11 7:07 PM Think all community needs this. RT @cpaterso: Help teachers become comfortable with the role of learner. #edchat sram_socrates 2/8/11 7:07 PM @k2quiere is also more parent friendly, clear and open to involvement of all stakeholders #edchat lookforsun 2/8/11 7:07 PM @ksivick #edchat Thanks for giving us permission to spread the good news of education. TheNerdyTeacher 2/8/11 7:07 PM @jrwolfe - I agree, but those times need to be chosen very carefully or people dig in further instead of move forward. #edchat annebeninghof 2/8/11 7:07 PM #edchat People are open to new births, new homes, new jobs. Change isn't always resisted. Why do we welcome those other changes? krains 2/8/11 7:07 PM Too many classrooms still have the desks in neat rows with no power problems. #edchat WackJacq 2/8/11 7:07 PM RT @Nunavut_Teacher: Teachers should stop being the gatekeepers of knowledge and let students explore. #edchat Bravo! sarahjenness 2/8/11 7:07 PM @datadiva I agree...traditional and progressive ed both have advantages and disadvantages #edchat Nunavut_Teacher 2/8/11 7:07 PM RT @stumpteacher: As Michael Jackon said, "I'm starting with the man in the mirror..." Must start within each teacher and grow from there. #edchat cpaterso 2/8/11 7:07 PM with the role of learner. #edchat Help teachers become comfortable

he4therw4t5on 2/8/11 7:07 PM @virtual_teach thank you. Wd u use programmes for prof development? If so, wd it b useful to have downloadable summary? #edchat #ukedchat lookforsun 2/8/11 7:07 PM @cybraryman1 @djgallagher #edchat Parent-student learning sessions at elementary particularly w/tech is a good starting point. techfacil 2/8/11 7:07 PM Yep- transparency. RT @ksivick: Steps to begin change.-> #1 change your classroom and invite others in Build a following . #edchat

krains 2/8/11 7:07 PM @sram_socrates Leaving fear of change at the door should be number 1! #edchat datadiva 2/8/11 7:07 PM . @educatoral But at the same time, don't reject everything just because it's "always done that way". Reflect ... then ask why. #edchat Heathrb25 2/8/11 7:07 PM We need to get back to good teaching before pacing charts and high stakes testing...focus on quality teaching, not number of lessons #edchat galactadon 2/8/11 7:08 PM Americans have to stop believing that if you're poor it's your own damn fault #edchat jaysonengland 2/8/11 7:08 PM I think we have to start thinking locally and not use the 'one size fits all' mentallity! #edchat rgallwitz 2/8/11 7:08 PM @rkiker what makes a great teacher? Results or relationships? I always say relationships! #edchat lookforsun 2/8/11 7:08 PM @cpaterso #edchat Yes, and give teachers time to learn and the choice as to what they want to learn. web20classroom 2/8/11 7:08 PM @MaryAnnReilly Definitely not autonomous. We all are in this together. We have to act together. #edchat cpaterso 2/8/11 7:08 PM vulnerability and taking risks. #edchat Educational leaders to model

krains 2/8/11 7:08 PM @stumpteacher @thenerdyteacher But, we're running out of time. It's our future. #edchat 2footgiraffe 2/8/11 7:08 PM Make the change in your class then look for opportunities to share benefits #edchat TheNerdyTeacher 2/8/11 7:08 PM @mbteach @jrwolfe Communication is really key. All stakeholders need a voice to make real change happen. #edchat anomalei 2/8/11 7:08 PM students in decision making. #edchat RT @Nunavut_Teacher: Involve

readingteachsu 2/8/11 7:08 PM RT @djgallagher: We need to assess what our culture is first, I know I have members of my staff are in deficit thinking mode about students #edchat mattguthrie 2/8/11 7:08 PM culture change can lead to culture breakdown as well. What are ancillary effects of what you are changing? #edchat

k2quiere 2/8/11 7:08 PM We also need to take the time to master our own craft; these fly-by-night fad-like fix-alls are not helpful. #edchat SenorG 2/8/11 7:08 PM @web20classroom Culture change means getting educators to reflect on whether top priority is "teaching" or "facilitating learning" #edchat pamfb7557 2/8/11 7:08 PM Number 7 in #14inFeb. The Principal Is Your Pal http://bit.ly/flTEV7 #edchat #cpchat L_Hilt 2/8/11 7:08 PM Read all about blog night! Yes, I blogged from blog night. http://bit.ly/eASwnu They didn't need me... #cpchat #edchat Tech4Learning 2/8/11 7:08 PM stop expecting schools to look/act/be a certain way to be labeled a success or even innovative #edchat lookforsun 2/8/11 7:08 PM @techfacil @ksivick #edchat I've been sharing twitter links w/teachers who might be interested - it's fostered some nice dialogue. justintarte 2/8/11 7:08 PM RT @Nunavut_Teacher: Teachers should stop being the gatekeepers of knowledge and let students explore. #edchat mikevigilant 2/8/11 7:08 PM @Nunavut_Teacher But how do I motivate those kids to explore? My resource kids couldn't care less and don't mind letting me know! #edchat kylepace 2/8/11 7:08 PM RT @stumpteacher: culture change can happen from anyone involved in ED. doesn't have to be admin or teacher. Kids can demand it too #edchat sram_socrates 2/8/11 7:08 PM @web20classroom must start some where right, and this puts each student first #edchat Nunavut_Teacher making. #edchat 2/8/11 7:08 PM Involve students in decision

ksivick2/8/11 7:08 PM I know it's hard but we have to plan more events on weekends and evenings for parents to witness the learning process #edchat galactadon 2/8/11 7:08 PM Americans have to start respecting education and intellectuals like they do in other countries. #edchat readingteachsu 2/8/11 7:08 PM RT @cpaterso: Help teachers become comfortable with the role of learner. #edchat

andreamystrena 2/8/11 7:08 PM Agree! MT @BrdCmpbll: As we push for changes it would be nice to not feel all alone #edchat & twitter are nice. Allies in building are huge mbteach 2/8/11 7:08 PM @jrwolfe @thenerdyteacher I think large jumps can be effective if well-planned and w/a lot of 2-way communication #edchat web20classroom 2/8/11 7:08 PM And we have to move past worrying about things that are out of our control. Testing, grading, etc. Focus on what you can control. #edchat TheNerdyTeacher 2/8/11 7:08 PM RT @pete_rodrigues: need to realize that change is going to be bumpy and uncomfortable #edchat stumpteacher 2/8/11 7:08 PM We are all equally responsible for the change. Don't be John Mayer and wait for the world to change. #edchat BrdCmpbll 2/8/11 7:09 PM The fast foodification of education. Hurts the real reforms that #edchat is about. I feel like we are asked to placate not educate JoAnnJ68 2/8/11 7:09 PM Change for each school depends upon the culture of the school. There is no one size fits all. #edchat rkiker 2/8/11 7:09 PM @web20classroom I say it often, Relationships are critical. #edchat KathyPerret 2/8/11 7:09 PM RT @Saskateach: We need to make what happens in the classroom relevant and useful to students outside it. Stop the disconnect that is growing larger.#edchat TheNerdyTeacher 2/8/11 7:09 PM @krains @stumpteacher Sometimes it's good to rock the boat to wake people up, but not at the risk of pushing all overboard. #edchat mbteach 2/8/11 7:09 PM So what is one concrete step we can take as teachers? As admins? As parents? As community members? #edchat mrg_3 2/8/11 7:09 PM We must accept we're not the only source RT @Nunavut_Teacher: Teachers should stop being the gatekeepers of knowledge. #edchat ToughLoveforX 2/8/11 7:09 PM RT @SNewco: RT @mbteach: If we want school culture to change, first we need to change habits #edchat stumpteacher 2/8/11 7:09 PM I believe that it is good to talk about change but I am pretty proud of the good work already being done too #edchat

web20classroom 2/8/11 7:09 PM @SenorG The reflective educator is one thing that we really need to spend time on developing. #edchat kylepace 2/8/11 7:09 PM @justintarte @Nunavut_Teacher I agree but how do we get ourselves to that place? Doesn't happen quickly. #edchat tomwhitby 2/8/11 7:09 PM Politicians need to stop using education for political gain. Education should be above politics. #Edchat Faithflame907 2/8/11 7:09 PM @rgallwitz i would say a good mix of both. doesn't have to be either-or! #edchat sarahjenness 2/8/11 7:09 PM @mrseholley child should also have say in education, especially as they get older #edchat mattguthrie 2/8/11 about? #edchat 7:09 PM @mikevigilant what ARE they excited

ksivick2/8/11 7:09 PM when it comes to parents respect is a 2 way street, you gotta give it to get it, let's be the professionals and give it #edchat lookforsun 2/8/11 7:09 PM @Nunavut_Teacher #edchat Yes, don't forget the students' voice - that's critical. engagingEDU 2/8/11 7:09 PM RT @lookforsun: @engagingEDU @SNewco @mbteach #edchat Agreed - assessment should promote greater learning, not punishment. pete_rodrigues 2/8/11 7:09 PM And to what end are you changing the culture? What are student outcomes #edchat datadiva 2/8/11 7:09 PM RT @galactadon: Americans have to stop believing that if you're poor it's your own damn fault #edchat educatoral 2/8/11 7:09 PM change is happening. NOW! #edchat Change takes time. Don't worry tho, @sram_socrates And students

web20classroom 2/8/11 7:09 PM first is where they should be. #edchat Big_D1970 #edchat 2/8/11 7:09 PM

Listen, pause, pause again, think, act

Saskateach 2/8/11 7:09 PM We need to make what happens in the classroom relevant and useful to students outside it. Stop the disconnect that is growing larger.#edchat

carolgau 2/8/11 7:10 PM #edchat I think to start change , it takes one person, change is slow in all government agencies, some change is better than no change. web20classroom 2/8/11 7:10 PM @rkiker They are paramount. We all have to understand each other in order to be able to work together. #edchat stumpteacher 2/8/11 7:10 PM Change is not universal because every school/classroom is in a different place. #edchat Blanket changes won't work rkiker 2/8/11 7:10 PM @web20classroom Also, always believed 3 most important things to give a student-critical thinking, communication, collaboration. #edchat JoAnnJ68 2/8/11 7:10 PM We all need to lead in our own way and not stand back and wait for someone else to do it. #edchat pete_rodrigues 2/8/11 7:10 PM Many! RT @mbteach: Is there really 'one' culture in education to change? #edchat 2footgiraffe 2/8/11 7:10 PM @mbteach Make the change in your class then look for opportunities to share benefits #edchat #edchat cybraryman1 2/8/11 7:10 PM #edchat topic:In order to reform education, we need to change the culture.What steps do we need to take to begin the change? cybraryman1 2/8/11 7:10 PM #edchat topic:In order to reform education, we need to change the culture.What steps do we need to take to begin the change? sram_socrates 2/8/11 7:10 PM RT @tomwhitby: Politicians need to stop using education for political gain. Education should be above politics. #Edchat if only sram_socrates 2/8/11 7:10 PM RT @tomwhitby: Politicians need to stop using education for political gain. Education should be above politics. #Edchat if only WackJacq 2/8/11 7:10 PM Let's begin by re evaluating where we want graduates to be and design backwards. Rethink everything. #edchat mattguthrie 2/8/11 7:10 PM RT @web20classroom: @SenorG The reflective educator is one thing that we really need to spend time on developing #edchat

mattguthrie 2/8/11 7:10 PM RT @web20classroom: @SenorG The reflective educator is one thing that we really need to spend time on developing #edchat ToughLoveforX 2/8/11 7:10 PM RT @JoAnnJ68: Change for each school depends upon the culture of the school. There is no one size fits all. #edchat tomwhitby 2/8/11 7:10 PM People must understand the difference between Education reform and Labor reform. #Edchat allisonletts 2/8/11 7:10 PM RT @cpaterso: Ban the word 'administrator' and talk instead about educational leadership. #edchat TheNerdyTeacher 2/8/11 7:10 PM 'one' culture in education to change? #edchat RT @mbteach: Is there really

SamGliksman 2/8/11 7:10 PM Recognition that tech isn't patch on existing education that makes it more efficient. Need reinvention of edu systems and goals. #edchat MsBisOnline 2/8/11 7:10 PM RT @tomwhitby: Teachers must view parents as allies and not adversaries. #Edchat readingteachsu 2/8/11 pause again, think, act #edchat raysadad 2/8/11 only encouraged. #edchat 7:10 PM RT @Big_D1970: Listen, pause,

7:10 PM

Lasting change can't be compelled, Is there really 'one' culture in

mbteach 2/8/11 7:10 PM education to change? #edchat

pete_rodrigues 2/8/11 7:10 PM @ksivick shouldn't we just give respect, and not worry about what others do #edchat Gabewarner 2/8/11 7:10 PM case of KIDS than parents #edchat @galactadon more specifically in the

stumpteacher 2/8/11 7:10 PM @thenerdyteacher @krains Yes, it has to be strategic and thoughtfully carried out. #edchat Nunavut_Teacher 2/8/11 7:10 PM @mikevigilant You can't motivate. You have to explore what motivates your students. #itstough #edchat lookforsun 2/8/11 7:10 PM @datadiva @galactadon #edchat Poverty is a huge issue when it comes to education reform and ed success - we need to eliminate poverty in USA

HowDoWeFeel 2/8/11 7:10 PM RT @BrdCmpbll The fast foodification of education. Hurts the real reforms that #edchat is about. I feel like we are asked to placate not.. mikeroberts1973 2/8/11 7:10 PM RT @tomwhitby: Parents must view teachers as allies and not adversaries. #Edchat TheNerdyTeacher 2/8/11 7:10 PM RT @mbteach: So what is one concrete step we can take as teachers? As admins? As parents? As community members? #edchat kconners09 2/8/11 7:10 PM RT @mbteach: So what is one concrete step we can take as teachers? As admins? As parents? As community members? #edchat positivelypt 2/8/11 7:10 PM RT @stumpteacher: I believe that it is good to talk about change but I am pretty proud of the good work already being done too #edchat cpaterso 2/8/11 7:10 PM Ban the word 'administrator' and talk instead about educational leadership. #edchat cfanch 2/8/11 7:11 PM tech is the invisible tool. Period. We must teach using all of our tools. Teachers must be lifelong learners about their craft. #edchat MissTtrue 2/8/11 7:11 PM RT @JoAnnJ68: Change for each school depends upon the culture of the school. There is no one size fits all. #edchat cybraryman1 2/8/11 7:11 PM RT @DwiyanaS: RT @thenerdyteacher: @mbteach @jrwolfe - Communication is really key. All stakeholders need a voice to make real change happen. #edchat rkiker 2/8/11 7:11 PM @rgallwitz So true, relationships will shape students. Soft skills will ensure success. Assessments, grades, etc are just filler. #edchat justintarte 2/8/11 7:11 PM leading by example! RT @2footgiraffe: Make the change in your class then look for opportunities to share benefits #edchat frankisibberson 2/8/11 7:11 PM RT @2footgiraffe: @mbteach Make the change in your class then look for opportunities to share benefits #edchat #edchat krains 2/8/11 7:11 PM @thenerdyteacher @stumpteacher Sometimes a good swim wakes everyone up. #edchat

readingteachsu 2/8/11 7:11 PM RT @web20classroom: @MaryAnnReilly Definitely not autonomous. We all are in this together. We have to act together. #edchat k2quiere 2/8/11 7:11 PM Stop treating education like a business...students are not products to be counted and shelved. #edchat ToughLoveforX 2/8/11 7:11 PM @mbteach "One responsible step." You might want to take a look at http://ilnk.me/6909 by @GraingerEd #edchat WackJacq 2/8/11 7:11 PM based on a belief system. #edchat Culture is driven by group norms

TheNerdyTeacher 2/8/11 7:11 PM The big problem with education is trying to find the silver bullet to solve the problems that are so varied. #edchat rgallwitz 2/8/11 7:11 PM Move away from dog and pony show teacher evaluations and create an environment of professional growth! #edchat DwiyanaS 2/8/11 7:11 PM RT @thenerdyteacher: @mbteach @jrwolfe - Communication is really key. All stakeholders need a voice to make real change happen. #edchat cybraryman1 2/8/11 7:11 PM We all must work as a team: students, parents, teachers, admin, community #edchat jrwolfe 2/8/11 7:11 PM @thenerdyteacher @mbteach Communication is key, but all stakeholders having a voice=gridlock. Where's the balance? #edchat readingteachsu 2/8/11 7:11 PM @rgallwitz @rkiker #edchat... I think relationships and results... they aren't mutually exclusive Saskateach 2/8/11 7:11 PM So true! RT @raysadad: Lasting change can't be compelled, only encouraged. #edchat lookforsun 2/8/11 7:11 PM @JoAnnJ68 #edchat - Yes, there's no "one size fits all" - the best innovation comes from responsive, student-centered ed. mikevigilant 2/8/11 7:11 PM @BrdCmpbll I agree local allies are critical to the cause. Wish my coworkers tweeted! #edchat web20classroom 2/8/11 7:11 PM RT @rkiker: Also, always believed 3 most important things to give a student-critical thinking, communication, collaboration. #edchat

Faithflame907 2/8/11 7:11 PM @TheNerdyTeacher i would say no. diff schools/districts/students need diff things #edchat TheNerdyTeacher 2/8/11 7:11 PM @mbteach - I think that each school has its own distinct culture that needs to be changed in a very different way. #edchat kylepace 2/8/11 7:11 PM If you're just joining #edchat: In order to reform edu, we need to change the culture. What steps do we need to take to begin the change? justintarte 2/8/11 7:11 PM @kylepace @Nunavut_Teacher -create a learning environment that encourages & embraces sharing, collaboration, exploration & discovery #edchat mbteach 2/8/11 7:11 PM Some would argue that KIPP, Mastery and other programs have completely changed culture #edchat datadiva 2/8/11 7:11 PM we're a "profession with a labor union" RT @tomwhitby: People must understand difference between Education reform and Labor reform. #Edchat Tech4Learning 2/8/11 7:11 PM RT @web20classroom: we must move past worrying about things that are out of our control. Focus on what you can control. #edchat krains 2/8/11 7:12 PM @sram_socrates Agree! Why do educators start to believe they know everything and stop wanting to learn? #edchat mbteach 2/8/11 7:12 PM RT @kylepace: #edchat topic: In order to reform edu, we need to change the culture. What steps do we need to take to begin the change? lpapplegirl 2/8/11 7:12 PM RT @positivelypt: also, develop relationships between parents, teachers, and community as a PARTNERSHIP for education -- no one is against any1 #edchat rgallwitz 2/8/11 7:12 PM RT @rkiker: @rgallwitz So true, relationships will shape students. Soft skills will ensure success. Assessments, grades, etc are just filler. #edchat cybraryman1 2/8/11 7:12 PM @TeachingTrisha #edchat topic:In order to reform education, we need to change the culture.What steps do we need to take to begin the change? TeachingTrisha 2/8/11 7:12 PM RT @Nunavut_Teacher: Teachers should stop being the gatekeepers of knowledge and let students explore. #edchat

sram_socrates 2/8/11 7:12 PM RT @cfanch: tech is the invisible tool. Period. We must teach using all of our tools. Teachers must be lifelong learners about their craft. #edchat web20classroom 2/8/11 7:12 PM @CraigPinches I dunno about biggest influence. We are the ones in the classroom everyday. Way I see it, we have much more influence. #edchat irasocol 2/8/11 7:12 PM thing you must vote that way #edchat If education is the most important

pete_rodrigues 2/8/11 7:12 PM RT @irasocol: Only concerted political effort will break current ruling class commitment to student failure #edchat lookforsun 2/8/11 7:12 PM silver bullet - but many right answers. @thenerdyteacher #edchat There's no

jaysonengland 2/8/11 7:12 PM @tomwhitby How do we take them out of the equation when they make the laws we have to teach under? #edchat stumpteacher 2/8/11 7:12 PM RT @jofrei: RT @cybraryman1: We all must work as a team: students, parents, teachers, admin, community #edchat educatoral 2/8/11 7:12 PM I've spent my career looking for that ONE thing that'll work. Not so sure there is any ONE thing anymore. #edchat mikevigilant 2/8/11 7:12 PM Too often my fellow new teachers feel washed under by the vets. Some of the best ideas I've heard about changes came from rookies. #edchat readingteachsu 2/8/11 7:12 PM RT @web20classroom: RT @rkiker: Also, always believed 3 most important things to give a student-critical thinking, communication, collaboration. #edchat TeachingTrisha 2/8/11 7:12 PM #edchat

jofrei 2/8/11 7:12 PM RT @cybraryman1: We all must work as a team: students, parents, teachers, admin, community #edchat JoAnnJ68 2/8/11 7:12 PM School is a community and we will truly benefit when we all work together. #edchat creatingmagic33 2/8/11 view of education ? #edchat 7:12 PM Does society need to change it's

lookforsun 2/8/11 7:12 PM @mbteach #edchat We must look at what these companies do well and use it, then use what we do well in the public sphere too. irasocol 2/8/11 7:12 PM Only concerted political effort will break current ruling class commitment to student failure #edchat sram_socrates 2/8/11 7:12 PM @web20classroom agreed #edchat. Now how do we convince gov testing should not be the driving force #edchat CraigPinches 2/8/11 7:12 PM @web20classroom Unfortunately the talking heads always have the biggest platforms and influence on the masses, hurting education. #edchat pete_rodrigues 2/8/11 7:12 PM To change culture have to start by asking good transformative questions #edchat ChrisVacek 2/8/11 7:12 PM #edchat one good step: embrace challenges and model "no fear of change" - goes a long way in culture change. TeachingTrisha 2/8/11 7:13 PM RT @cpaterso: Help teachers become comfortable with the role of learner. #edchat readingteachsu 2/8/11 7:13 PM RT @cfanch: tech is the invisible tool. Period. We must teach using all of our tools. Teachers must be lifelong learners about their craft. #edchat kconners09 2/8/11 7:13 PM In age of testing standards it's hard 2 get ppl to understand paradigm must change. #edchat mbteach 2/8/11 7:13 PM @thenerdyteacher I would agree. Each school is at a different place and on a different trajectory #edchat teachwatts 2/8/11 7:13 PM the gatekeepers of knowledge are things of the past, the knowledge is open and available, equal access more imperative than ever #edchat positivelypt 2/8/11 7:13 PM Also, I think my co-workers and I would benefit from opportunities to observe/learn/make suggestions to each other #edchat Saskateach 2/8/11 7:13 PM I really like Sir Ken's vision of an agrarian model for educ not a factory model. But how to accomplish? #edchat sram_socrates 2/8/11 7:13 PM @irasocol very true but most ppl vote party platforms not individuals platforms #edchat

engagingEDU 2/8/11 7:13 PM @ksivick wknd/nt events 2 expose parents 2 learning process-great idea! we have success with that -family trips, expos of stud wrk #edchat Gabewarner 2/8/11 7:13 PM @educatoral No way. If there was ONE thing, anyone could be a teacher, and we all know that's not true #edchat Big_D1970 2/8/11 7:13 PM something to teach #edchat Even the most difficult patent has

rkiker 2/8/11 7:13 PM @web20classroom @mbteach Initial steps include focus on personalized learning, structured pathways, & actually putting students 1st #edchat web20classroom 2/8/11 7:13 PM @sram_socrates Sure all the testing is not the right way to do it. But that is not changing or going away. #edchat jrwolfe 2/8/11 7:13 PM @creatingmagic33 I think we do. We need to treat education like any of the jobs it prepares our students for #accountability #edchat irasocol 2/8/11 7:13 PM Right now all US Fed and State policies seek to limit who can succeed in schools. You want something different, insist on change #edchat TheJLV 2/8/11 7:13 PM RT @irasocol: If education is the most important thing you must vote that way #edchat matthewktabor 2/8/11 7:13 PM Does anyone know why The Washington Post still publishes Jay Mathews' columns? http://bit.ly/epbL78 #edreform #edchat mikeroberts1973 2/8/11 7:13 PM RT @rgallwitz: We need to value the emotional relationships teacher have with students. You cannot quantify it or assess it. #edchat EdDebateOnline 2/8/11 7:13 PM Does anyone know why The Washington Post still publishes Jay Mathews' columns? http://bit.ly/epbL78 #edreform #edchat justintarte 2/8/11 7:13 PM RT @kylepace: @justintarte @Nunavut_Teacher And then spread the word to the right audience(s)! Can't just keep it behind a closed door. #edchat TheJLV 2/8/11 7:13 PM RT @irasocol: Only concerted political effort will break current ruling class commitment to student failure #edchat educatoral 2/8/11 7:13 PM @datadiva Yes! #edchat

cfanch 2/8/11 7:13 PM @mikevigilant and when it come to budget cuts we keep those with seniority. Sad. #edchat kylepace 2/8/11 7:13 PM @justintarte @Nunavut_Teacher And then spread the word to the right audience(s)! Can't just keep it behind a closed door. #edchat lookforsun 2/8/11 7:13 PM @sram_socrates @web20classroom #edchat We HAVE to convince govt to streamline testing and leave more time for EDUCATION! stumpteacher 2/8/11 7:13 PM We need to stop looking for THE "fix" and fix our own classrooms and schools. Learn from each other and Just Do It. #edchat TeachingTrisha 2/8/11 7:13 PM RT @BrdCmpbll: Also as we push for changes it would be nice to not feel all alone #edchat and twitter are nice. Allies in building are huge tomwhitby 2/8/11 7:13 PM Teachers are viewed as Public servants and as being second class citizens. This is not the view teachers have of themselves. #Edchat dgustavovega 2/8/11 7:13 PM RT @juandoming: Otras formas de voluntariado | Educa con TIC http://t.co/IDUPELV #juandon #educacion #learning #elearning #educacion #edchat ChrisVacek 2/8/11 7:13 PM RT @irasocol: If education is the most important thing you must vote that way #edchat web20classroom 2/8/11 7:13 PM @sram_socrates We don't, and can't. We worry about our instruction and our teaching and the rest takes care of itself. #edchat mrseholley 2/8/11 7:13 PM RT @TeachingTrisha: RT @Nunavut_Teacher: Teachers should stop being the gatekeepers of knowledge and let students explore. #edchat carolgau 2/8/11 7:13 PM @mbteach #edchat Demonstrate to others how students are learning through collaboration with other students. chriszuccaro 2/8/11 7:14 PM RT @lookforsun: #edchat Twitter has been so powerful - giving educators a voice w/other educators - we're so busy during the day. pkuntz79 2/8/11 7:14 PM RT @web20classroom: RT @stumpteacher: For those new to twitter and jumping into their first #edchat check this out http://bit.ly/fxnHRQ #ntchat

educatoral 2/8/11 7:14 PM Testing may not be going away right now, but that shouldn't stop us from educating those in charge that there are better ways. #edchat cybraryman1 2/8/11 7:14 PM @pkuntz79 Welcome! His tutorial is outstanding. Enjoy the chat and learning. #edchat darthclaudiaa 2/8/11 7:14 PM It's not about pumping money into the system: It's about passionate people working as a team for improvement. #edchat mbteach 2/8/11 7:14 PM @jrwolfe @thenerdyteacher if change is happening it has to be presented in a way that empowers & enlightens those at receiving end #edchat WackJacq 2/8/11 7:14 PM We nred to ditch the "communist' model" of school "...where the last shall be first and the first shall be last..." Steinbeck #edchat ToughLoveforX 2/8/11 7:14 PM @educatoral Agreed No One Thing. But maybe a common approach. Increase Resilience. Compassion. Curiosity. http://ilnk.me/6909 #edchat ksivick2/8/11 7:14 PM Steps to reform culture? march on Washington, get the attention of media ...expose positive passionate educators #edchat Nunavut_Teacher 2/8/11 7:14 PM RT @stumpteacher: We need to stop looking for THE "fix" and fix our own classrooms and schools. Learn from each other and Just Do It. #edchat djgallagher 2/8/11 7:14 PM We need to start caring about weather of not students are learning, need to get parents involved #edchat jrwolfe 2/8/11 7:14 PM #edchat Where do your biggest pressures come from to reform your classroom? Admin? Colleagues? Students? bhsprincipal 2/8/11 7:14 PM RT @L_Hilt: Read all about blog night! Yes, I blogged from blog night. http://bit.ly/eASwnu They didn't need me... #cpchat #edchat chriszuccaro 2/8/11 7:14 PM RT @tomwhitby:Teachers are viewed as Public servants & as being 2nd class citizens.This is not the view teachers have of themselves. #Edchat irasocol 2/8/11 7:14 PM @cfanch Don't let tech ever be invisible. Invisible is unknown and controlled by others. Kids must know/adapt tech #edchat

2footgiraffe 2/8/11 7:14 PM So pick something 2 share w/ others 2morrow. Don't force it on them though. We feel the urgency but don't get the door closed on ya #edchat Faithflame907 2/8/11 7:14 PM @lpapplegirl both prnts and educators want children to do well - both may have diff opinions of how to help. how do we resolve that? #edchat lookforsun 2/8/11 7:14 PM @TeachingTrisha @BrdCmpbll #edchat Twitter has been so powerful - giving educators a voice w/other educators - we're so busy during the day. AlphabetWorkout 2/8/11 7:14 PM RT @edReformer: 7 essential elements of project-based learning http://bit.ly/fID2f8 #blendedlearning #onlinelearning #edchat badgerdwitness 2/8/11 7:14 PM RT @nlearning: Conrad Wolfram says, "Stop teaching calculating, and start teaching maths." Thoughts? http://bit.ly/ihssmC #edchat #mathchat #nlearning justintarte 2/8/11 7:14 PM YES YES & YES! RT @cybraryman1: We all must work as a team: students, parents, teachers, admin, community #edchat mikevigilant 2/8/11 7:14 PM There's something to be said for deep reflection--too often we want to change it and change it now. Slower is better SOMEtimes! #edchat cybraryman1 2/8/11 7:14 PM We have to be in tune with how our students learn and involve them more in the learning process #edchat galactadon 2/8/11 7:14 PM @tomwhitby Paying an upper middle class salary would go a long way to showing our respect for teachers #edchat datadiva 2/8/11 7:14 PM My thoughts as a 1st step? Stop letting politicians redefine our vernacular. "Data" does not mean numbers. Reclaim our profession #edchat cfanch 2/8/11 7:14 PM @tomwhitby and as we see in other countries, teachers are professionals and are treated that way #edchat raysadad 2/8/11 7:14 PM @thenerdyteacher @mbteach Show someone that "different" can work better. #edchat Edu_Traveler 2/8/11 7:15 PM @TheNerdyTeacher @mbteach It's about finding what works for each school..no need for re-invention #edchat

TheNerdyTeacher 2/8/11 7:15 PM @mbteach @jrwolfe - Agreed. People need to feel part of the positive process of change, not just "along for the ride". #edchat 4thGrdTeach 2/8/11 7:15 PM what is tonight's topic? #edchat

jottingmatt 2/8/11 7:15 PM RT @TheNerdyTeacher: The big problem with education is trying to find the silver bullet to solve the problems that are so varied. #edchat galactadon 2/8/11 7:15 PM Seems to me too many people believe teachers can "fix" education all by themselves #edchat CraigPinches 2/8/11 7:15 PM @web20classroom Influence on the students definitely. Not sure about parents and those who control the money/policy though. #edchat mikevigilant 2/8/11 7:15 PM @cfanch Exactly, it's exactly the opposite of what needs to happen. Don't get me wrong, vets are great, but sometimes hold us back #edchat cfanch 2/8/11 7:15 PM @irasocol I see your point but what I'm saying is that, just like the cell phone, tech in the classroom should just be used #edchat irasocol 2/8/11 7:15 PM @sram_socrates right, they rank many things as more important than kids. And we see that in all political policy here #edchat irasocol 2/8/11 7:15 PM @sram_socrates right, they rank many things as more important than kids. And we see that in all political policy here #edchat krains 2/8/11 7:15 PM @lookforsun If we all just stop teaching to the test then the test won't matter. #edchat isteconnects 2/8/11 7:15 PM RT @TheNerdyTeacher: The big problem with education is trying to find the silver bullet to solve the problems that are so varied. #edchat Faithflame907 2/8/11 do you suggest? #edchat jrwolfe 2/8/11 7:15 PM @educatoral what better ways

7:15 PM

@mbteach very well put #edchat

lookforsun 2/8/11 7:15 PM #edchat Relook and redefine educator roles in every part of a school so that everyone in a school is working for student success.

carolgau 2/8/11 7:15 PM also add Problem solving skills.

@rkiker #edchat I agree and would

sram_socrates 2/8/11 7:15 PM @mikeroberts1973 very well put if you don't know your students how effective are u at meeting there needs #edchat londondj0430 2/8/11 7:15 PM RT @stumpteacher: We need to stop looking for THE "fix" and fix our own classrooms and schools. Learn from each other and Just Do It. #edchat TheNerdyTeacher 2/8/11 7:15 PM @mbteach - Yes, and I think that is why so many educators are frustrated. What works for school A might not be the answer for B. #edchat SamGliksman 2/8/11 7:16 PM Reform requires clarification of how the objectives of 21st C education have changed. Can't change culture w/out shared vision #edchat educatoral 2/8/11 7:16 PM @Gabewarner Good point. #edchat

Saskateach 2/8/11 7:16 PM Yes RT @TheNerdyTeacher: The big problem with education is trying to find the silver bullet to solve the problems that are so varied.#edchat MrHappy4870 2/8/11 7:16 PM RT @atlasshrugs #Texas School District Backs Off Mandatory Arabic Classes http://bit.ly/ekva1f #islam #islamophobia #TX #edchat #tcot #tlot frankisibberson 2/8/11 7:16 PM invite colleagues to learn with us. #edchat I think a concrete step is to

engagingEDU 2/8/11 7:16 PM @chriszuccaro @lookforsun - Agree! #twitter and #edchat make a huge difference in unity, collaboration, and reform. 4thGrdTeach 2/8/11 ed.ucation #edchat 7:16 PM even you can change something in

justintarte 2/8/11 7:16 PM RT @mikevigilant: There's something to be said for deep reflection--too often we want to change it and change it now. Slower is better SOMEtimes! #edchat SenorG 2/8/11 7:16 PM @mikevigilant Great point! We expect respect from students but often don't find it from veteran colleagues who dismiss newbies #edchat CBethM 2/8/11 7:16 PM RT @stumpteacher: We are all equally responsible for the change. Don't be John Mayer and wait for the world to change. #edchat

ToughLoveforX 2/8/11 7:16 PM @chriszuccaro @tomwhitby Not doubt not 2nd class citizens. But in fact in Public edu, government employees. No? #edchat CBethM 2/8/11 7:16 PM RT @web20classroom: And we have to move past worrying about things that are out of our control. Testing, grading, etc. Focus on what you can control. #edchat penphoe 2/8/11 7:16 PM RT @davidwees: The relationship between family income and #FSA scores http://t.co/uvLrVj1 #edchat #BCed #CanEd mbteach 2/8/11 end' quite a bit ;) #edchat 7:16 PM @jrwolfe I've been on the 'receiving

lookforsun 2/8/11 7:16 PM #edchat Streamline school structures get rid of useless items, keep the best for ed success. web20classroom 2/8/11 7:16 PM @CraigPinches But we still control how we teach kids. That to me is much more important. What they pundits think matters not. #edchat educatoral 2/8/11 7:16 PM @Faithflame907 Have studnts demonstrate what they can do, share their work, blogs, portfolios. Not multiple choice or one shot test. #edchat Faithflame907 2/8/11 7:16 PM @cfanch it should be used effectively though in the sense that it fosters critical thinking in students #edchat mattguthrie 2/8/11 7:16 PM when implementing chng must be willing to accept conseq of failure - will lead to more openness toward other attempts #edchat cybraryman1 2/8/11 7:16 PM @galactadon You are right. It has to be a team approach (students, parents, et al) #edchat jennar 2/8/11 7:16 PM RT @TheNerdyTeacher: @mbteach - Yes, and I think that is why so many educators are frustrated. What works for school A might not be the answer for B. #edchat tomwhitby 2/8/11 7:16 PM Teachers need to act more professionally in seeking Professional Development to remain Relevant as an educator. Things Change! #Edchat rkiker 2/8/11 7:16 PM @tomwhitby Got to tell ya, never once felt like a 2nd class citizen as a teacher. Perhaps the culture I created changed perspective #edchat

mbteach 2/8/11 7:16 PM @andreamiller20 "In order to reform education, we need to change the culture. What steps do we need to take to begin the change?" #edchat JoAnnJ68 2/8/11 7:16 PM Student success also involves student choice parents & teachers need to allow this to happen #edchat Nunavut_Teacher 2/8/11 7:16 PM Indeed, it all starts in your own classrooms. Start tomorrow or add to what you are doing. #edchat #reform stumpteacher 2/8/11 7:16 PM @thenerdyteacher @mbteach Yes, there is no "universal" when it comes to fixes. We all have different issues and resources #edchat djgallagher 2/8/11 7:16 PM RT @stumpteacher: We need to stop looking for THE "fix" and fix our own classrooms and schools. Learn from each other and Just Do It. #edchat Tech4Learning 2/8/11 7:16 PM amazing to see all the passion, discussion and ideas flowing fast and furious on #edchat elightkeeper 2/8/11 7:16 PM Start with small steps & not wait for larger cultural shift. Ask "what is one thing can I do differently tomorrow?" Then do it. #edchat BrdCmpbll 2/8/11 7:16 PM @thenerdyteacher #edchat. It is like being don quixote in a wind farm #whichwaydoIgo lookforsun 2/8/11 7:16 PM #edchat Educate for life not for test, not for next grade, not for college - but for a happy, productive life! The rest will fall in place. allisonletts 2/8/11 7:16 PM include student-as-educator... #edchat @lookforsun I would think that might

cpaterso 2/8/11 7:16 PM Learn from Cesar Chavez and Marshall Ganz. Organize and become activists. Our message is moral and political, not just educational. #edchat Heathrb25 2/8/11 the classroom #edchat 7:16 PM @cfanch I agree about using tech in

Edu_Traveler 2/8/11 7:17 PM RT@tomwhitby: Admins should not view teachers as the problem.>> so true. Collaboration is key #edchat irasocol 2/8/11 7:17 PM A website full of change... http://www.teachablemoment.org/ideasessays.html #edchat

lookforsun 2/8/11 7:17 PM #edchat Schools may need to educate more than just children - parents and community members too new ways to learn. darthclaudiaa 2/8/11 7:17 PM To convince ppl of the change theyve got to see it: literacy/mathematic improvements, passion for education and eagerness to learn. #edchat jennar 2/8/11 7:17 PM RT @irasocol: Right now all US Fed and State policies seek to limit who can succeed in schools. You want something different, insist on change #edchat pete_rodrigues 2/8/11 7:17 PM RT @L_Hilt Read all about blog night! Yes, I blogged from blog night. http://bit.ly/eASwnu They didn't need me... #cpchat #edchat <-sweet! 4thGrdTeach 2/8/11 7:17 PM @KathyPerret check lists based on our essential learner outcomes, self created #edchat Sgwhizz 2/8/11 7:17 PM We need to modernize our thoughts and approaches use todays tools 4 todays kids #edchat positivelypt 2/8/11 7:17 PM RT @lookforsun: #edchat Listen to teachers - make teachers part of every decision. Welcome families too - all families, they're our clients. kylepace 2/8/11 7:17 PM @mattguthrie And failure is really hard for a lot of teachers. Especially if the support isn't there for when failure happens. #edchat blairteach 2/8/11 7:17 PM The man who removes a mountain begins by carrying away small stones. Chinese proverb We keep chipping away... #edchat rgallwitz 2/8/11 7:17 PM RT @tomwhitby: Teachers need to act more professionally in seeking Professional Development to remain Relevant as an educator. Things Change! #Edchat lookforsun 2/8/11 7:17 PM #edchat Listen to teachers - make teachers part of every decision. Welcome families too - all families, they're our clients. cpaterso 2/8/11 7:17 PM RT @SamGliksman: Reform requires clarification of how the objectives of 21st C education have changed. Can't change culture w/out shared vision #edchat Gabewarner 2/8/11 7:17 PM @Faithflame907 @lpapplegirl more involvement from, and outreach to, parents. We need to invite parents into our world MORE #edchat

sram_socrates 2/8/11 7:17 PM @krains @galactadon I don't know. I learn everyday and a lot comes from my students. Need to b a life long learner to create them #edchat KathyPerret 2/8/11 7:17 PM How do others record/progress monitor their change process so that they know they are moving towards the goal? #edchat g4husky 2/8/11 7:17 PM RT @Nunavut_Teacher: Indeed, it all starts in your own classrooms. Start tomorrow or add to what you are doing. #edchat #reform tshreve 2/8/11 7:17 PM @cfanch We have seniority because the highest paid would be cut, regardless of ability #edchat zgilbert 2/8/11 7:17 PM RT @EdReachus: The EdReach Weekly Ask: What do you hope to see on the next iPad? http://j.mp/hdQNTp #edchat We'll show the results on MacReach #3. stumpteacher 2/8/11 7:17 PM Big part is to view change as an opportunity for improvement not admittance of failure. #edchat irasocol 2/8/11 7:17 PM But you can do things. Devalue grades (90-100 scale), throw out furniture, go outside, give no tests #edchat tech2learn 2/8/11 7:17 PM RT @tomwhitby: Teachers need to act more professionally in seeking PD to remain Relevant as an educator. Things Change! #Edchat kconners09 2/8/11 7:17 PM Yes! RT @cybraryman1: We have to be in tune with how our students learn and involve them more in the learning process #edchat mbteach 2/8/11 7:17 PM things that need changing? #edchat So what are some universal cultural

cpaterso 2/8/11 7:18 PM RT @WackJacq: RT @thenerdyteacher: I've found that changes work well from the bottom up, not admin directed. That's my building though. #edchat ToughLoveforX 2/8/11 7:18 PM @mbteach Respect. Humility. Compassion. Curiosity. Every day in every interaction. Kids:Parents:Teachers:Admins:Politicos. #edchat djgallagher 2/8/11 7:18 PM RT @cybraryman1: We have to be in tune with how our students learn and involve them more in the learning process #edchat

web20classroom 2/8/11 7:18 PM @sram_socrates Sure. Not saying all testing is bad. Just saying to not allow it to consume us. #edchat darthclaudiaa 2/8/11 7:18 PM @stumpteacher literacy/mathematic improvements, passion for education and eagerness to learn by students. #edchat engagingEDU 2/8/11 7:18 PM @Saskateach Sir Ken's agrarian model - get closer by taking direction from students about how/where/when they "grow" best #edchat circedunnell 2/8/11 7:18 PM agreed RT @JoAnnJ68: Teachers need to realize that lifelong learner means exactly that #edchat d_martin05 #edchat 2/8/11 7:18 PM 24 hours till sirken can't wait! #sirken

lookforsun 2/8/11 7:18 PM @krains #edchat Sometimes a test matters - sometimes I like to test my knowledge so tests can be a part of learning but not objective. kylepace 2/8/11 7:18 PM @benpaddlejones I agree but as @mbteach said the change starts with us before it can go to students and parents. #edchat irasocol 2/8/11 7:18 PM @cfanch Absolutely, just used/adapted consciously. Not purchased and accepted #edchat WackJacq 2/8/11 7:18 PM RT @thenerdyteacher: I've found that changes work well from the bottom up, not admin directed. That's my building though. #edchat positivelypt 2/8/11 7:18 PM @tech2learn @tomwhitby you don't think teachers are already doing this? I am always seeking PD #edchat blairteach 2/8/11 7:18 PM We tch stds to be self-advocates, but many tchrs don't model that kind of behavior w/regard to their own learning. #edchat ChrisVacek 2/8/11 7:18 PM RT @irasocol: A website full of change... http://www.teachablemoment.org/ideasessays.html #edchat SamGliksman 2/8/11 7:18 PM Increasingly find myself at odds with educators that feel the traditional education system just needs a little repair... #edchat chrisemdin 2/8/11 7:18 PM RT @mbcampbell360: Bill Nye on America's "horrible" science education http://is.gd/2aiULj #edchat #scichat #science

kmorgan_sci_ed 2/8/11 7:18 PM Are classrooms fair? http://t.co/1H1C6Do #Edchat #scichat #teaching #education #scienceeducation #teachers sram_socrates 2/8/11 7:18 PM @web20classroom no but there are reasons to test. Some don't understand that sttest most test reading and memory nothing else #edchat stumpteacher 2/8/11 7:18 PM We have to realize that those of us here clearly see the need for change but many do not see that need. Must show them, how? #edchat TheNerdyTeacher 2/8/11 7:18 PM I've found that changes work well from the bottom up, not admin directed. That's my building though. #edchat rkiker 2/8/11 7:18 PM RT @irasocol: A website full of change... http://www.teachablemoment.org/ideasessays.html #edchat tomwhitby 2/8/11 7:18 PM @rkiker I never felt 2nd class but I have been treated that way by some. Those who can't, teach attitude. #edchat datadiva 2/8/11 7:18 PM But they're not... the learner is. RT @lookforsun: #edchat [snip] Welcome families too - all families, they're our clients. Nunavut_Teacher 2/8/11 7:18 PM RT @JoAnnJ68: Student success also involves student choice parents & teachers need to allow this to happen #edchat Faithflame907 2/8/11 7:18 PM @educatoral diff. schools have diff amnt of money. hard to measure students' abilities if dnt have as many opportunities #edchat readingteachsu 2/8/11 7:18 PM RT @Big_D1970: Even the most difficult patent has something to teach #edchat JoAnnJ68 2/8/11 7:18 PM learner means exactly that #edchat Teachers need t o realize that lifelong

lookforsun 2/8/11 7:19 PM @kylepace @benpaddlejones @mbteach #edchat starting w/us: share knowledge, invite others in, welcome feedback, assess student learning. . . ChrisVacek 2/8/11 7:19 PM funded needs to be changed. #Edchat RT @tomwhitby: The way Education is

4thGrdTeach 2/8/11 7:19 PM We also need to be able to admit our own mistakes and failures and change them #edchat

jottingmatt 2/8/11 7:19 PM @stumpteacher Show them the benefits of a PLN; how Twitter can help with networking; start in our schools by sharing what we do. #edchat darthclaudiaa 2/8/11 7:19 PM @stumpteacher its not about improved scores on standardized tests its about kids comin to school excited 2 learn & teachers to teach #edchat datadiva 2/8/11 7:19 PM @djgallagher I'd like to hear more about why we need to involve them. I get that it's helpful but is it necessary? #edchat cfanch 2/8/11 7:19 PM each school & community must decide what works best for their situation. No silver bullet but lots of bullets with silver in them. #edchat TheNerdyTeacher 2/8/11 7:19 PM Teachers follow teachers. Lead by examples and people will follow. It's no different than teaching students. Model, Model, Model. #edchat kylepace 2/8/11 7:19 PM RT @TheNerdyTeacher: I've found that changes work well from the bottom up, not admin directed. That's my building though. #edchat johnsonmaryj 2/8/11 7:19 PM Everyone can initiate change, no matter what institutional position. Mistake to wait until everyone on board. #edchat sram_socrates 2/8/11 7:19 PM RT @jeffskohls: Let students explore and construct. Give them ownership in what they are doing. #edchat #sschat jrwolfe 2/8/11 7:19 PM @kylepace We need to think about "failure" in a different way. Let's be more entrepreneurial, using failure as a signal for change #edchat tomwhitby 2/8/11 be changed. #Edchat 7:19 PM The way Education is funded needs to

cybraryman1 2/8/11 7:19 PM RT @4thGrdTeach: Why students should have a voice http://ow.ly/3SOVR #edchat sram_socrates 2/8/11 7:19 PM @irasocol the other issue is that education starts as being important then gets put on the shelf #edchat mrg_3 2/8/11 7:19 PM @SamGliksman That seems to be 1st stepdefining the vision-opening the discussion of what works and what doesn't #edchat

cybraryman1 2/8/11 7:19 PM RT @jeffskohls: Let students explore and construct. Give them ownership in what they are doing. #edchat #sschat 4thGrdTeach 2/8/11 7:19 PM http://ow.ly/3SOVR #edchat Why students should have a voice RT @irasocol: A website full of

web20classroom 2/8/11 7:19 PM change... http://bit.ly/gN9UH3 #edchat ksivick2/8/11 7:19 PM good for teens #edchat

Universal change - > school hours, 7-3 not

readingteachsu 2/8/11 7:19 PM @Big_D1970 #edchat sometimes we learn our best lessons from difficulty: difficult parents, difficult students, difficult situations. jeffskohls 2/8/11 7:19 PM Let students explore and construct. Give them ownership in what they are doing. #edchat #sschat stumpteacher 2/8/11 7:19 PM @SamGliksman Are you suggesting it is ok or needs more than a little repair? #edchat Gabewarner 2/8/11 7:19 PM @lookforsun AMEN!!! #edchat

Faithflame907 2/8/11 7:20 PM @jottingmatt agreed. just harder to implement this in schools that block websites like twitter #edchat andreamiller20 2/8/11 7:20 PM I think the number one step is to stop talking about it and starting acting on it #edchat MissShuganah 2/8/11 7:20 PM @HappyTeacherLA I have no doubt. That is why I am advocating for #edequality Resources should not go to wealthier districts #edchat sram_socrates 2/8/11 7:20 PM RT @ChrisVacek: RT @tomwhitby: The way Education is funded needs to be changed. #edchat. But when will gov realize that 2footgiraffe 2/8/11 7:20 PM RT @blairteach: @johnsonmaryj True. Sometimes you just have to MOVE & leave the ones not on board on the shore. #edchat k2quiere 2/8/11 7:20 PM We need to model how to be good students with our colleagues...reading the paper and grading during PD is not effective for anyone. #edchat

Edu_Traveler 2/8/11 7:20 PM RT @thenerdyteacher @mbteach: So what is one concrete step we can take>> realize that the step looks different for every school #edchat irasocol 2/8/11 7:20 PM There is nothing SLA is doing that you couldn't do in your secondary classroom #edchat mbteach 2/8/11 7:20 PM @ToughLoveforX we need 2 focus on building school culture in order to reform it. Lrng doesn't happen when bldng culture is lacking #edchat lookforsun 2/8/11 7:20 PM @thenerdyteacher #edchat Yes, actions speak - let your actions speak. I need to make that a sign in my classroom. rkiker 2/8/11 7:20 PM @tomwhitby The public mostly demands effort of teachers. Even more so than knowledge. Getting them to see effort is another task #edchat WackJacq 2/8/11 7:20 PM How is change happening in Tunisia & Egypt? ppl R fed up & not keeping thieir mouth shut. We need 2 all begin 2 walk the walk! #edchat AntLak 2/8/11 7:20 PM @Saskateach I like the model as well however I have this feeling that parents would need to be educated on the alternative #edchat educatoral 2/8/11 7:20 PM @Faithflame907 & yet we're testing schools with less the same as test schools with more money? Another case to test differently. #edchat circedunnell 2/8/11 7:20 PM @ksivick I was just talking to my students today about how school hours weren't conducive to adolescent learning. #edchat darthclaudiaa 2/8/11 7:20 PM @thenerdyteacher Agreed: no student will be passionate about their work if their teacher is not. #edchat B_Wagoner 2/8/11 7:20 PM We (district admins) need to let go of central control & create PD systems that support/value individualized learning for teachers. #edchat tomwhitby 2/8/11 7:20 PM @positivelypt You are good.Too many refuse to develop professionally. #edchat blairteach 2/8/11 7:20 PM @johnsonmaryj True. Sometimes you just have to MOVE & leave the ones not on board on the shore. #edchat Nunavut_Teacher 2/8/11 7:20 PM We can not force other teachers to change. We must lead by example. It's up to them to decide. #edchat

allisonletts 2/8/11 7:20 PM @tomwhitby what would you suggest? how do you convince wealthier dist. to give up funding? #edchat SNewco 2/8/11 7:20 PM RT @TheNerdyTeacher: Teachers follow teachers. Lead by examples and people will follow. It's no different than teaching students. Model, Model, Model. #edchat Heathrb25 2/8/11 7:20 PM @darthclaudiaa EXACTLY #edchat

mikevigilant 2/8/11 7:20 PM @WackJacq My experience too. Anytime admin tries to push something it just feels, well, pushed. Who knows kids better than tchrs? #edchat sram_socrates 2/8/11 either. I think 10-5 #edchat 4thGrdTeach 2/8/11 7:20 PM @ksivick not good hours for me

7:20 PM

Change starts with yourself #edchat

stumpteacher 2/8/11 7:20 PM @jrwolfe @kylepace But change does not necessarily mean failure does it? #edchat pamfb7557 2/8/11 7:21 PM RT @drtimony: Someone needs to put their hand up and their foot down and say I trust that the teachers in my school are capable. #edchat Saskateach 2/8/11 7:21 PM skillfull teacher to carry it out. #edchat @AntLak Agreed and it would take a

web20classroom 2/8/11 7:21 PM RT @TheNerdyTeacher: Teachers follow teachers. Lead by examples and people will follow. It's no different than teaching students. Model, Model, Model. #edchat creatingmagic33 2/8/11 7:21 PM I agree with the bottom up model, but there has to be some top down happening at some point or the people on the bottom give up. #edchat stumpteacher 2/8/11 7:21 PM @DrTimony Agreed, why are teachers not treated as professionals that are capable of making decisions and changes #edchat malynmawby 2/8/11 7:21 PM RT @jrwolfe: @kylepace We need to think about "failure" in a different way. Let's be more entrepreneurial, using failure as a signal for change #edchat kylepace 2/8/11 7:21 PM RT @DrTimony: Someone needs to put their hand up and their foot down and say I trust that the teachers in my school are capable. #edchat

cfanch 2/8/11 7:21 PM @darthclaudiaa ..and when they are excited to learn - huzzah! the scores on tests will increase! Excitement must come first. #edchat rgallwitz 2/8/11 7:21 PM @tomwhitby We have enough money. Take away regulations, trust teachers, and let them innovate. #edchat sbeducator 2/8/11 7:21 PM RT @k2quiere: We need to model how to be good students with our colleagues...reading the paper and grading during PD is not effective for anyone. #edchat mattguthrie 2/8/11 7:21 PM @kylepace I'm guess I have so much experience at failing it doesn't bother me anymore :-) #edchat tappedinorg 2/8/11 7:21 PM RT @irasocol: A website full of change... http://www.teachablemoment.org/ideasessays.html #edchat KathyPerret 2/8/11 7:21 PM @4thGrdTeach Nice idea. Monitoring takes the guess work out of scaffolding the game plan. #edchat lookforsun 2/8/11 7:21 PM @blairteach @johnsonmaryj #edchat Everyone doesn't have to move at the same time - some are keepers of wonderful traditions too. sram_socrates 2/8/11 7:21 PM RT @k2quiere: We need to model how to be good students with our colleagues...reading the paper and grading during PD is not effective for anyone. #edchat mikevigilant 2/8/11 7:21 PM RT @tomwhitby: Teachers need to act more professionally in seeking Professional Development to remain Relevant as an educator. Things Change! #Edchat kylepace 2/8/11 7:21 PM @stumpteacher @jrwolfe No it doesn't necessarily mean failure but it's usually not the smoothest of roads. :) #edchat mbteach 2/8/11 7:21 PM funded needs to be changed. #Edchat RT @tomwhitby: The way Education is

JoAnnJ68 2/8/11 7:21 PM we tell students that we learn from our mistakes but we don't seem at times to honor our own #edchat readingteachsu 2/8/11 7:21 PM RT @blairteach: "The man who removes a mountain begins by carrying away small stones." Chinese proverb We keep chipping away... #edchat jhox1 2/8/11 7:21 PM @thenerdyteacher Bottom up change is good, but is hard if the admin still sees education thru 20th century glasses. #edchat

web20classroom 2/8/11 7:21 PM RT @irasocol: There is nothing SLA is doing that you couldn't do in your secondary classroom #edchat <-Totally agree. TheNerdyTeacher 2/8/11 7:21 PM @darthclaudiaa - The worst thing a student could tell me is that I don't look happy teaching. #edchat #Passion krains 2/8/11 7:21 PM @lookforsun Great philosophy, but too bad so many of our tests are not part of learning anything but to take the test. #edchat mikevigilant 2/8/11 7:21 PM RT @blairteach: "The man who removes a mountain begins by carrying away small stones." Chinese proverb We keep chipping away... #edchat drtimony 2/8/11 7:21 PM Someone needs to put their hand up and their foot down and say I trust that the teachers in my school are capable. #edchat stumpteacher 2/8/11 7:21 PM @jottingmatt Yes ,we have to show the world what we are doing. http://bit.ly/hcETRK Must come out! #edchat ToughLoveforX 2/8/11 7:22 PM @mbteach With good culture, almost everything works. With the wrong culture almost nothing will be sustainable. #edchat wwjdr 2/8/11 7:22 PM RT @Nunavut_Teacher: Teachers should stop being the gatekeepers of knowledge and let students explore. #edchat sram_socrates 2/8/11 7:22 PM is a tool not the be all and end all #edchat ksivick2/8/11 7:22 PM I agree fully - it has it's place it

so back to topic...concrete steps #edchat

irasocol 2/8/11 7:22 PM Or draw on the floor http://mthornton78.wordpress.com/2011/02/07/connecting-communities/ #edchat positivelypt 2/8/11 7:22 PM Could not agree more! RT @tomwhitby: The way Education is funded needs to be changed. #Edchat EnsinaBr 2/8/11 7:22 PM RT @TheNerdyTeacher: Teachers follow teachers. Lead by examples and people will follow. It's no different than teaching students. Model, Model, Model. #edchat g4husky 2/8/11 7:22 PM Like the old saying, 'no one cares how much you know until they know how much you care.' Passion-driven teaching changes all. #edchat

mikevigilant 2/8/11 7:22 PM In order to make change happen, we need new ways to collaborate and share ideas, not "Mandatory Staff Mtg" in lunchroom once a month #edchat darthclaudiaa 2/8/11 7:22 PM @cfanch Precisely. Motivation and passion is the key to success. No one fights for something they dont care about. #edchat andreamiller20 2/8/11 7:22 PM Amen! RT @cybraryman1: Ask not what your school can do for you ask what you can do for your school #edchat lookforsun 2/8/11 7:22 PM @stumpteacher @DrTimony #edchat The way teachers are treated in some schools is a BIG problem. k2quiere 2/8/11 7:22 PM How about educating parents that it is ok to remain involved in your child's school at the high school level. #edchat jottingmatt 2/8/11 7:22 PM The number of educators unfamiliar with the Twitter community of educators is amazing. #edchat djgallagher 2/8/11 7:22 PM @datadiva If you want to change the culture you have to have all stakeholders involved in the process,. #edchat drtimony 2/8/11 7:22 PM @stumpteacher B/c when there was a drought, they lowered standards instead of raising benefits. #edchat stumpteacher 2/8/11 7:22 PM @kylepace @jrwolfe Yes, not an easy road... but nothing worth doing is ever easy. Look at lite brites! #edchat johnsonmaryj 2/8/11 7:22 PM Leadership vital to change, but anyone can be a leader. Don't assume it must be an administrator. Librarians can lead! #edchat web20classroom 2/8/11 7:22 PM RT @cybraryman1: Ask not what your school can do for you ask what you can do for your school #edchat 4thGrdTeach 2/8/11 7:22 PM If students dn't know the goal of a lesson, they don't understand the purpose, what's the point? #edchat techfacil 2/8/11 7:22 PM Transparency & humility. RT @4thGrdTeach: We also need to be able to admit our own mistakes and failures and change them #edchat cybraryman1 2/8/11 7:22 PM Ask not what your school can do for you ask what you can do for your school #edchat B_Wagoner 2/8/11 7:22 PM In IA we've been talking about building a "coalition of the willing." Support and run with those who are willing. #edchat

educatoral 2/8/11 7:22 PM RT @MissShuganah: @HappyTeacherLA That is why I am advocating for #edequality Resources should not go to wealthier districts. #edchat darthclaudiaa 2/8/11 7:22 PM @thenerdyteacher The teachers that looked miserable r the 1s that made me hate school as a kid;The smilin ones made me want 2 teach Edu_Traveler 2/8/11 7:22 PM RT @rgallwitz: @tomwhitby We have enough money. Take away regulations, trust teachers, and let them innovate. #edchat positivelypt 2/8/11 7:22 PM @tomwhitby do you notice this amongst all teachers? or specific grade levels / experience / subject matter? #edchat andreamiller20 2/8/11 7:22 PM #edchat take a step toward change daily - whether it's in your classroom or office - whether it's a small step or huge leap - make it happen BrdCmpbll 2/8/11 7:22 PM There is a tough line to walk #edchat between sharing and spreading ideas & putting a target on your back. I feel like that line is hard TheNerdyTeacher 2/8/11 7:22 PM @jhox1 - True, but if you create a building of teachers on the same page, the admin will need to look at change or BE changed. #edchat mbteach 2/8/11 7:23 PM @Edu_Traveler yes, it does. #edchat

ksivick2/8/11 7:23 PM #edchat to change the culture we need to self-promote, distasteful but necesssary mritzius 2/8/11 7:23 PM same holds true in my building #edchat @thenerdyteacher you're not alone,

BeckyFisher73 2/8/11 7:23 PM @B_Wagoner Jamie McKenzie talks about growing your vanguards...similar idea #edchat cybraryman1 2/8/11 7:23 PM RT @blairteach: It's hard to change a sch culture when the members of that culture think everything is fine. #edchat drtimony 2/8/11 7:23 PM @stumpteacher Nursing shortage resulted in change, pay raises, options, alternatives, and respect. #edchat g4husky 2/8/11 7:23 PM RT @tomwhitby: People must accept the fact that not all learning take place in a room. #Edchat

cfanch 2/8/11 7:23 PM community leaders. #edchat

@ksivick start with the parents and

WackJacq 2/8/11 7:23 PM RT @tomwhitby: People must accept the fact that not all learning take place in a room. #Edchat <--True!!!!! blairteach 2/8/11 7:23 PM It's hard to change a sch culture when the members of that culture think everything is fine. #edchat sram_socrates 2/8/11 7:23 PM RT @TheNerdyTeacher: Teachers follow teachers. Lead by examples and people will follow. It's no different than teaching students. Model, Model, Model. #edchat FrankBeard 2/8/11 7:23 PM http://bit.ly/fHzCFR @m_rhee lied about her test scores in Baltimore. Likely would have been fired under IMPACT #edreform #edchat #education jottingmatt 2/8/11 7:23 PM RT @stumpteacher: @jottingmatt Yes ,we have to show the world what we are doing. http://bit.ly/hcETRK Must come out! #edchat 4thGrdTeach 2/8/11 7:23 PM will? http://ow.ly/3SP28 #edchat And if we don't keep it positive, who

JoAnnJ68 2/8/11 7:23 PM RT @stumpteacher: @DrTimony true...must move everything forward and upward. #edchat jrwolfe 2/8/11 7:23 PM @B_Wagoner Very grassroots, I like it. Does this group have an end goal, or serve more for support? #edchat cybraryman1 2/8/11 7:23 PM RT @andreamiller20: #edchat don't wait for something to happen in order for you to start making a difference - just do it! lookforsun 2/8/11 7:23 PM @darthclaudiaa @thenerdyteacher #edchat Affect, personality, spirit, openess is so important - the human factor is critical in schools. andreamiller20 2/8/11 7:23 PM #edchat don't wait for something to happen in order for you to start making a difference - just do it! AntLak 2/8/11 7:23 PM Engage the mind of students, making learning relevant to their world and watch the possibilities develop. #edchat bhsprincipal 2/8/11 7:23 PM RT @ToughLoveforX: @mbteach With good culture, almost everything works. With the wrong culture almost nothing will be sustainable. #edchat

mikevigilant 2/8/11 7:23 PM It's been said on here a thousand times--the old way of doing things has to be reconsidered, if not completely tossed #edchat tomwhitby 2/8/11 7:23 PM learning take place in a room. #Edchat People must accept the fact that not all

WackJacq 2/8/11 7:23 PM We either fail now when we are all here to help each other along, or our nation can fail BIG later. When the damage is irreversible. #edchat circedunnell 2/8/11 7:23 PM RT @cybraryman1: Ask not what your school can do for you ask what you can do for your school #edchat malynmawby 2/8/11 7:23 PM RT @k2quiere: We need to model how to be good students with our colleagues...reading the paper and grading during PD is not effective for anyone. #edchat stumpteacher 2/8/11 7:23 PM @DrTimony true...must move everything forward and upward. #edchat cybraryman1 2/8/11 7:23 PM @sram_socrates #edchat topic:In order to reform education, we need to change the culture.What steps do we need to take to begin the change? AntLak 2/8/11 7:24 PM @Saskateach that is a start, but it might also need a whole school district to make the shif and educate all involved in the process #edchat elightkeeper 2/8/11 7:24 PM Ask "what is one thing I can do differently tomorrow?" Then do it. #edchat Individual actions add up to cultural change over time. TheNerdyTeacher 2/8/11 7:24 PM @galactadon @kylepace - I think every building and every district need to create a plan that works for them. Blanket policies fail. #edchat barbaram 2/8/11 7:24 PM RT @TheNerdyTeacher: Teachers follow teachers. Lead by examples and people will follow. It's no different than teaching students. Model, Model, Model. #edchat sbeducator 2/8/11 7:24 PM #edchat I think if the PTB genuinely ask teachers for their ideas, instead of saying they did, that may be a great start. HansenLaurie 2/8/11 7:24 PM @jottingmatt Excellent point, Matt!

mritzius 2/8/11 7:24 PM RT @drtimony: Someone needs to put their hand up and their foot down and say I trust that the teachers in my school are capable. #edchat

mattguthrie 2/8/11 7:24 PM need to realistically understand the size of the ship we are trying to turn also (1/2) #edchat stumpteacher 2/8/11 7:24 PM teacher shortage? #edchat @DrTimony Do you see there being a

B_Wagoner 2/8/11 7:24 PM @jrwolfe It's actually been the call of our new state Director of Education. As a state, we will build a coalition of the willing. #edchat cybraryman1 2/8/11 #edchat 7:24 PM @BrdCmpbll Scnool and community

allisonletts 2/8/11 7:24 PM @blairteach are you thinking more of admin or community members? #edchat Tech4Learning 2/8/11 7:24 PM RT @darthclaudiaa: "A leader is a dealer in hope." -Napoleon: We must be this leader for our students. We must GIVE THEM hope that they will succeed #edchat drtimony 2/8/11 7:24 PM really? wow RT @FrankBeard http://bit.ly/fHzCFR @m_rhee lied about her test scores in Baltimore. would have been fired under IMPACT #edchat kapriforce 2/8/11 7:24 PM RT @tomwhitby: People must accept the fact that not all learning take place in a room. #Edchat SenorG 2/8/11 7:24 PM @web20classroom What roadblocks are in the way of more reflective practices? Is there fear it will be used in evaluations? #edchat shannoninottawa 2/8/11 7:24 PM RT @darthclaudiaa: "A leader is a dealer in hope." -Napoleon: We must be this leader for our students. We must GIVE THEM hope that they will succeed #edchat tutorspree 2/8/11 7:24 PM awesome! RT .@KirstenWinkler: New .@edukwest Interview: Aaron Harris .@aaronkharris of Tutorspree .@tutorspree http://bit.ly/h4lWoX #edchat mikevigilant 2/8/11 7:24 PM Yes! RT @lookforsun: @stumpteacher @DrTimony #edchat The way teachers are treated in some schools is a BIG problem. jrussellteacher 2/8/11 7:24 PM Teachers at my school see Twitter as a bother, or a gimmick, and not as a limitless tool for education. It makes me sad... #edchat

lookforsun 2/8/11 7:24 PM @tomwhitby #edchat That's why I love my class social network - it really connects us 24-7, gives students a voice when they need one. BrdCmpbll 2/8/11 to community 7:24 PM @cybraryman1 #edchat change school

Saskateach 2/8/11 7:24 PM RT @AntLak: Engage the mind of students, making learning relevant to their world and watch the possibilities develop. #edchat SamGliksman 2/8/11 7:24 PM @mrg_3 Defining shared vision is where paths of traditionalists & reformers diverge...and it's very hard to bring them back together #edchat krains 2/8/11 7:24 PM @johnsonmaryj Teachers can lead! #edchat

darthclaudiaa 2/8/11 7:24 PM A leader is a dealer in hope. Napoleon: We must be this leader for our students. We must GIVE THEM hope that they will succeed #edchat averyteach 2/8/11 7:24 PM RT @tomwhitby: People must accept the fact that not all learning take place in a room. #edchat irasocol 2/8/11 7:25 PM RT @DrTimony @FrankBeard http://bit.ly/fHzCFR @m_rhee lied about her test scores in Baltimore. would have been fired under IMPACT #edchat JoAnnJ68 2/8/11 7:25 PM A teacher told me she can't w8t for the pendulum to swing back., a sad comment & sadder kids. #edchat pamfb7557 2/8/11 7:25 PM RT @mbteach: A concrete step: Sit down as staff & talk about what works, what doesn't work & make plan of action that holds everyone accountable #edchat Edu_Traveler 2/8/11 7:25 PM RT @urbanteachersed: New Orleans Neighborhood Opposes KIPP: http://bit.ly/eTKCJo #edchat #edrefrom barbaram 2/8/11 7:25 PM RT @darthclaudiaa: "A leader is a dealer in hope." -Napoleon: We must be this leader for our students. We must GIVE THEM hope that they will succeed #edchat blairteach 2/8/11 7:25 PM @allisonletts I was thinking tchrs, but it could be admins or community--or students. #edchat sbeducator 2/8/11 7:25 PM #edchat Embrace technology. It's hard when Lightspeed blocks nearly everything, including blogs created by teachers for students.

stumpteacher 2/8/11 7:25 PM @educatoral Yes, we can not afford to wait for government or admin to turn change into policy. We have to do it in our classes. #edchat stumpteacher 2/8/11 7:25 PM @educatoral Yes, we can not afford to wait for government or admin to turn change into policy. We have to do it in our classes. #edchat lookforsun 2/8/11 7:25 PM @sbeducator #edchat Systems of idea management are critical in schools - every system should adopt optimal idea management sys. mlbargas 2/8/11 7:25 PM It's so difficult to fight this battle in which only a few understand what is really going on #edchat mattguthrie 2/8/11 7:25 PM (2/2) issues tied to sch board policy VERY hard to change so have to creatively find the small changes we can make #edchat Tech4Learning 2/8/11 7:25 PM YES! RT @elightkeeper: Ask "what is one thing I can do differently tomorrow?" Then do it. #edchat Indivactions = cultural change over time. Faithflame907 2/8/11 7:25 PM @jrussellteacher that's a prblm w/ some schools. they block websites in order to protect stdnts but at home stdnts using these tools #edchat WackJacq 2/8/11 7:25 PM We must be their guides and mentors who tell them what society says they must knw, but allow them to learn it in their own ways. #edchat TeachingTrisha 2/8/11 7:25 PM RT @jeffskohls: Let students explore and construct. Give them ownership in what they are doing. #edchat #sschat drtimony 2/8/11 7:25 PM @stumpteacher there was--in our region at least--and it was solved w/emergency certs and lowered stds for employ #edchat mbteach 2/8/11 7:25 PM A concrete step: Sit down as staff & talk about what works, what doesn't work & make plan of action that holds everyone accountable #edchat averyteach 2/8/11 7:25 PM RT @educatoral: Step 1: Be the change you want to see. It starts in our classrooms. #edchat 4thGrdTeach 2/8/11 7:25 PM reform education? #edchat Can teachers band together though to

cybraryman1 2/8/11 7:25 PM RT @educatoral: Step 1: Be the change you want to see. It starts in our classrooms. #edchat and you are a great example! andreamiller20 2/8/11 7:25 PM Teachers ARE leaders. : ) RT @krains: @johnsonmaryj Teachers can lead! #edchat web20classroom 2/8/11 7:25 PM @SenorG And I think there is a lack of understanding of how to be reflective. #edchat cfanch 2/8/11 7:25 PM once parents/community are on board for change, change (or improve) the school culture #edchat darthclaudiaa 2/8/11 7:25 PM Not to mention: "Ability is nothing without opportunity."-Napoleon. That opportunity is ours to give students. #edchat techsavvyed 2/8/11 7:25 PM @tomwhitby I think we're way past that. We have to convince people that pure online learning is not the solution either #edchat educatoral 2/8/11 7:25 PM It starts in our classrooms. #edchat Step 1: Be the change you want to see.

lookforsun 2/8/11 7:25 PM @blairteach #edchat That's where vision comes in - what is our vision for ed reform? My vision is big: world peace, happy people, clean env 4thGrdTeach 2/8/11 7:25 PM Student-centered learning has been life changing for me http://ow.ly/3SP4b #edchat web20classroom 2/8/11 7:25 PM @SenorG I think a lot of it is fear. Fear of understanding their is room for improvement. #edchat datadiva 2/8/11 7:26 PM @djgallagher but aren't parents our stakeholders, once removed? We seem to focus more on parent involvement than std involvement #edchat averyteach 2/8/11 7:26 PM RT @tomwhitby: Lifelong Learning must be a goal and a practice for ALL teachers, administrators and Parents, and then students. #edchat andreamiller20 2/8/11 7:26 PM @mattguthrie regardless of the size, there's always a first step - just have to be brave enough to take it #edchat krains 2/8/11 7:26 PM Twitter . . . yet. #edchat @jrussellteacher Some people just don't get

dancallahan 2/8/11 7:26 PM Will everybody be nice enough to welcome my principal, @pgprincipal to #edchat? He wants to start participating on Twitter more. kconners09 2/8/11 7:26 PM If they don't learn the way we teach, we need to teach the way they learn. #edchat drtimony 2/8/11 7:26 PM @mbteach The types of accountability that works is not welcome in schools. Not seen as "productive" #edchat SamGliksman 2/8/11 7:26 PM We talk about the need to work as a team but teams have common strategy. The big battle is in defining the common goal of education #edchat averyteach 2/8/11 7:26 PM YES. RT @mattguthrie: (2/2) issues tied to sch board policy VERY hard to change so have ..find the small changes we can make #edchat pamfb7557 2/8/11 7:26 PM RT @KathyPerret: Change happens in small increments. We all need support and encouragement along the way. Look for small successes & celebrate them. #edchat stumpteacher 2/8/11 7:26 PM @DrTimony We have opposite issue. Too many teachers not enough jobs...lower enrollment. #edchat cybraryman1 2/8/11 7:26 PM RT @KathyPerret: Change happens in small increments. We all need support and encouragement along the way. Look for small successes & celebrate them. #edchat jrwolfe 2/8/11 7:26 PM @4thGrdTeach I think it takes support from the larger community - govt, venture capital investment http://tinyurl.com/4d4t3qp #edchat allisonletts 2/8/11 you start with? #edchat 7:26 PM @mlbargas which stakeholders would

KathyPerret 2/8/11 7:26 PM Change happens in small increments. We all need support and encouragement along the way. Look for small successes & celebrate them. #edchat readingteachsu 2/8/11 7:26 PM RT @blairteach: It's hard to change a sch culture when the members of that culture think everything is fine. #edchat HansenLaurie 2/8/11 7:26 PM RT @educatoral: Step 1: Be the change you want to see. It starts in our classrooms. #edchat TeachingTrisha 2/8/11 starts with yourself #edchat 7:26 PM RT @4thGrdTeach: Change

tomwhitby 2/8/11 7:26 PM Lifelong Learning must be a goal and a practice for ALL including teachers, administrators and Parents, and then students. #Edchat djgallagher 2/8/11 7:26 PM Teachers need to expand learning to outside the classroom, reinvent instruction, allows students to create #edchat TheNerdyTeacher 2/8/11 7:26 PM You can beat your fists against the wall, or be the change in your classroom and hope others join. #edchat BeckyFisher73 2/8/11 7:26 PM what works and what doesn't work? #edchat @mbteach How do we know

4thGrdTeach 2/8/11 7:26 PM and when will we realize that we need a little of both sides to cater to all students #edchat mbteach 2/8/11 7:27 PM @DrTimony and staff meetings just to 'talk' about things aren't seen as productive either #edchat Saskateach 2/8/11 7:27 PM @AntLak Top down reform is never as well received or full embraced as grassroots #edchat kconners09 2/8/11 7:27 PM RT @4thGrdTeach: @jrwolfe absolutely, but we cannot wait for change to come to us #edchat sarahjenness 2/8/11 7:27 PM @krains I understand why. im new to twitter and sometimes its seems like too much @ once, i prefer dialogue not so much info at once #edchat g4husky 2/8/11 7:27 PM Got six colleagues to start blogging this week. It's taken four years, but now the walls are beginning to crumble. #edchat ksivick2/8/11 7:27 PM #edchat, How can motivated teachers gain the attention of the press and use that attention to shift the culture? mbteach 2/8/11 7:27 PM @BeckyFisher73 that would have to be part of the discussion! "How will we measure if something is working?" Doesn't have to be #s #edchat sram_socrates 2/8/11 7:27 PM @kapriforce but in terms of Cultural understanding ppl need to understand it's not just from books either #edchat WackJacq 2/8/11 7:27 PM Paraphrasing Ovid : a steady drip of water can pierce a rock over time. We need to make manageable goals and support each other. #edchat

barbaram 2/8/11 7:27 PM RT @KathyPerret: Change happens in small increments. We all need support and encouragement along the way. Look for small successes & celebrate them. #edchat drtimony 2/8/11 7:27 PM Awesome. Welcome. Looking fwd to learning from you. RT @dancallahan: welcome my principal, @pgprincipal to #edchat? #edchat readingteachsu 2/8/11 7:27 PM RT @frankisibberson: I think a concrete step is to invite colleagues to learn with us. #edchat jrwolfe 2/8/11 7:27 PM Is anyone using tech. to monitor success? RT @BeckyFisher73: @mbteach How do we know what works and what doesn't work? #edchat 4thGrdTeach 2/8/11 7:27 PM wait for change to come to us #edchat @jrwolfe absolutely, but we cannot

creatingmagic33 2/8/11 7:27 PM I agree with "be the change you want to see". Change is slow, but progress is steady. #edchat edtechworkshop #edchat 2/8/11 7:27 PM @pgprincipal welcome to

allisonletts 2/8/11 7:27 PM as accountability that works? #edchat

@drtimony what would you describe @PGPrincipal - Welcome to

TheNerdyTeacher 2/8/11 7:27 PM #edchat. We like Dan. He is smart and stuff.

educatoral 2/8/11 7:27 PM Step 2: Tell the world what you are doing. Let everyone in! We here are doing just that! Pay it forward. #edchat lookforsun 2/8/11 7:27 PM @cybraryman1 @educatoral #edchat Yes, but don't forget most teachers have second-to-second tasks-leaving little voice about bigger issues. cfanch 2/8/11 7:27 PM RT @tomwhitby: Lifelong Learning must be a goal and a practice for ALL (teachers, administrators and Parents), and then students. #edchat LincolnBuff2 2/8/11 7:27 PM RT @dancallahan: Will everybody be nice enough to welcome my principal, @pgprincipal to #edchat? He wants to start participating on Twitter more. andreamiller20 2/8/11 7:27 PM Amen! RT @elightkeeper: Ask "what is one thing I can do differently tomorrow?" Then do it. #edchat Individua (cont) http://deck.ly/~uR4RQ

Faithflame907 2/8/11 7:27 PM @educatoral yes. no doubt the funding system and mentality behind learning needs to change #edchat blairteach 2/8/11 7:27 PM @mbteach How is this different from what schs already do? Most have collaboratively created action plans, but ACTION is missing. #edchat Sgwhizz 2/8/11 7:27 PM We have to take back our profession,we r the experts and the soldiers on the ground we must get respect fm politicians #edchat mikevigilant 2/8/11 7:27 PM RT @elightkeeper: Ask "what is one thing I can do differently tomorrow?" Then do it. #edchat Individual actions add up to cultural change over time. krains 2/8/11 7:27 PM @Faithflame907 Sometimes it's about changing your seat on the bus. #edchat web20classroom 2/8/11 7:27 PM @dancallahan @pgprincipal Welcome! These chats are a great way to jump in. #edchat stumpteacher 2/8/11 to #edchat ! 7:27 PM @dancallahan @pgprincipal Welcome

stumpteacher 2/8/11 7:28 PM @ksivick Blog, tweet, advertise. be your own PR agent! #edchat Share with anyone who will listen about the great work you do! CBethM 2/8/11 7:28 PM RT @mbteach: A concrete step: Sit down as staff & talk about what works, what doesn't work & make plan of action that holds everyone accountable #edchat web20classroom 2/8/11 7:28 PM @stumpteacher That depends. In one classroom maybe. But there is a chance more impact could be had if more would share. #edchat 4thGrdTeach 2/8/11 7:28 PM we have an incredible opportunity to show the teachers of he future how education should; we are teaching them right now #edchat cybraryman1 2/8/11 7:28 PM @thenerdyteacher Yes, we need to accentuate the positive things happening in educaiton #edchat darthclaudiaa 2/8/11 7:28 PM Sew the seed and it will germinate: the change starts with individuals who want to see a difference made & it will catch on. #edchat

acraftymom 2/8/11 7:28 PM RT @Nunavut_Teacher: We can not force other teachers to change. We must lead by example. It's up to them to decide. #edchat Sgwhizz 2/8/11 7:28 PM RT @djgallagher: Teachers need to expand learning to outside the classroom, reinvent instruction, allows students to create #edchat averyteach 2/8/11 7:28 PM Reflective teaching practices that involve critical converstations with teaching colleagues are important to change. #edchat 1nbm 2/8/11 7:28 PM Recently heard this: The problem with ed today is that the stupid and the cowardly have been placed in charge. #edchat BryanThomasLee 2/8/11 7:28 PM RT @tomwhitby: Problems with inappropriate use of mobile learning devices is a behavior problem that requires discipline of offenders not banning. #Edchat mrwejr 2/8/11 7:28 PM @4thGrdTeach there needs to be enough teachers that WANT to creat ed reform. #edchat mikevigilant 2/8/11 7:28 PM RT @WackJacq: Paraphrasing Ovid : a steady drip of water can pierce a rock over time. We need to make manageable goals and support each other. #edchat blairteach 2/8/11 7:28 PM @mbteach Which brings us back to: "Not everything that can be counted counts, & not everything that counts can be counted." Einstein #edchat JoAnnJ68 2/8/11 7:28 PM Have some motivated teachers but the others are still drowning them out. #edchat sophia 2/8/11 7:28 PM RT @4thGrdTeach: Student-centered learning has been life changing for me http://ow.ly/3SP4b #edchat mbteach 2/8/11 7:28 PM @blairteach in my experience, a team of 3-4 ppl create the action plan and hold everyone else accountable #paperworkpushing #edchat sram_socrates 2/8/11 7:28 PM @4thGrdTeach you are right in many aspects we must push the change to occur and that occurs first in our schools #edchat lookforsun 2/8/11 7:28 PM #edchat Relook at school physical/teaching structure, roles, curriculum, - move toward 21stC skills in all areas and essential skills.

allisonletts 2/8/11 7:28 PM RT @4thGrdTeach: Don't be afraid to share, just also don't be afraid of rejection, it is ok to be rejected #edchat mikevigilant 2/8/11 7:28 PM @djgallagher I'd love to expand outside the classroom--what a great way to incite change. Any ideas on how, though? #edchat ksivick2/8/11 noticed? #edchat 7:28 PM What do we (teachers) have to do to get

stumpteacher 2/8/11 7:28 PM Does change that comes from within the classrooms have more chance of sustainability? From teachers/students rather than admin? #edchat pamfb7557 2/8/11 7:28 PM RT @mbcampbell360: With all this talk of change, where are we trying to change to? What is the end goal? Perhaps work backwards fm there. #edchat Faithflame907 2/8/11 7:28 PM @sarahjenness maybe part of teachers' job is to help students be comfortable with new tools and help them learn from them? #edchat educatoral 2/8/11 7:28 PM RT @averyteach: RT @tomwhitby: Lifelong Learning must be goal & practice 4 ALL teachers, admin and Parents, and then students. #edchat BeckyFisher73 2/8/11 success? @mbteach #edchat 7:28 PM @jrwolfe How do you define

djgallagher 2/8/11 7:28 PM RT @mbteach: A concrete step: Sit down as staff & talk about what works, what doesn't work & make plan of action that holds everyone accountable #edchat TheNerdyTeacher 2/8/11 7:28 PM @ksivick - You need to find the press and go after them. Be an advocate for yourself if others will not be. #edchat mbcampbell360 2/8/11 7:28 PM With all this talk of change, where are we trying to change to? What is the end goal? Perhaps work backwards fm there. #edchat SamGliksman 2/8/11 7:28 PM Too many educators & parents still see schools as certification mills that prepare kids for std. tests and career/college #edchat averyteach 2/8/11 7:28 PM RT @blairteach: It's hard to change a sch culture when the members of that culture think everything is fine. #edchat bhsprincipal 2/8/11 on here! #edchat #cpchat 7:28 PM @PGPrincipal John - Great to have you

4thGrdTeach 2/8/11 7:28 PM Don't be afraid to share, just also don't be afraid of rejection, it is ok to be rejected #edchat ksivick2/8/11 7:29 PM @thenerdyteacher press didn't seem interested (little press on edcamp and this was teachers educating teachers for free!) #edchat djgallagher 2/8/11 7:29 PM @Sgwhizz technology holds the key, skype, virtual tours, have students create youtube videos, etc. #edchat 4thGrdTeach 2/8/11 7:29 PM your boundaries, I do #edchat @mrwejr I agree so then work within @thenerdyteacher It is sharing

web20classroom 2/8/11 7:29 PM with everyone to help all kids. #edchat

Faithflame907 2/8/11 7:29 PM @pamfb7557 agreed. we also should break out of the mold that everyone HAS to go to college in order to do well in life. #edchat AntLak 2/8/11 7:29 PM @tomwhitby Agreed...as teachers we are to be life long learners and always be improving our professional knowledge but will they... #Edchat mikevigilant 2/8/11 7:29 PM @ksivick I think that's a great way to support your changes--tell the world! But do changes have to be underway first? #edchat DrSarahEaton 2/8/11 7:29 PM RT @TheNerdyTeacher: Teachers follow teachers. Lead by examples and people will follow. It's no different than teaching students. Model, Model, Model. #edchat DrSarahEaton 2/8/11 7:29 PM RT @web20classroom: RT @cybraryman1: Ask not what your school can do for you ask what you can do for your school #edchat TheNerdyTeacher 2/8/11 7:29 PM If we don't share the positive changes we make in our classrooms, how will other teachers be inspired to take the leap? #edchat WackJacq 2/8/11 7:29 PM RT @darthclaudiaa: Sew seed and it will germinate: the change starts w individuals who want 2 see a difference made & will catch on. #edchat lookforsun 2/8/11 7:29 PM @mikevigilant @djgallagher #edchat Expanding outside classroom - give a presentation, invite families for studentteacher event, make movie.

stumpteacher 2/8/11 7:29 PM @web20classroom I was thinking more generally. When change comes from within it is easier to go with rather than "forced" from top. #edchat mbteach 2/8/11 7:29 PM students #edchat @jrwolfe @BeckyFisher73 talk to the the

blairteach 2/8/11 7:29 PM @mbteach In my experience, you can only get 3-4 ppl WiLLING to work on the plan; other complain about meeting. #edchat pamfb7557 2/8/11 7:29 PM reflection around. #edchat Blogging is the best tool for teacher

ianchia 2/8/11 7:29 PM RT @joe_bower: Should I buy iPads for my classroom? << I need your help http://t.co/UpCACz3 #abed #edchat #edtech #iPad web20classroom 2/8/11 7:29 PM @thenerdyteacher And that is a huge roadblock. Teachers not willing to share because it sounds like bragging. It isn't! #edchat drtimony 2/8/11 7:29 PM @allisonletts hi-qual programming, admins capable of reading, interpreting, gathering, and using data responsibly, std needs met #edchat 4thGrdTeach 2/8/11 7:29 PM @mrwejr absolutely, but i think teachers are getting scared of sharing ideas #edchat sarahjenness 2/8/11 idea :) #edchat krains 2/8/11 username date 7:29 PM @WackJacq @krains ahh yesss! good

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kylepace 2/1/11 6:59 PM Welcome to #edchat. Thanks for joining in! Our topic tonight: How do we promote lifelong learning in all educators? davidwees 2/1/11 7:00 PM @blairteach Amen to that. #edchat

stumpteacher 2/1/11 7:00 PM Can you teach someone to be a lifelong learner or is it an innate ability we have? #edchat davidwees 2/1/11 7:00 PM @kylepace Step one: Model it! Step two: Show how it saves time. Step three: Give teachers choice. #edchat

cybraryman1 2/1/11 7:00 PM Always walk through life as if you have something new to learn and you will. #edchat blairteach 2/1/11 7:00 PM For me, its depressing that we even have to discuss this topic. One would think educators should WANT to be lifelong learners. #edchat SoMilwSchools 2/1/11 7:00 PM One student topples "angry birds" RT @bjnichols: How a 14-Year-Old Built the No. 1 iPhone Game http://aol.it/eNAtBy #edchat #edtech briankotts 2/1/11 7:00 PM RT @bjnichols: How a 14-Year-Old Built the No. 1 iPhone Game http://aol.it/eNAtBy #edchat #edtech Nunavut_Teacher 2/1/11 7:00 PM Lifelong learning can be promoted by letting teachers choose their PD. #edchat apontefract 2/1/11 7:00 PM RT @daveandcori: My Top 10 Free Web Resources for Students http://goo.gl/fb/SCJin #edtech, #edchat sandyrwagner 2/1/11 7:00 PM #edchat reward, praise, hold in high esteem the lifelong learners we already have-provide opportunity as well. sandyrwagner 2/1/11 7:01 PM @blairteach agreed- if you arent a lifelong learner you really shouldnt be in education #edchat gfreducation 2/1/11 about passion. #edchat 7:01 PM Everyone is a life-long learner. It's

blairteach 2/1/11 7:01 PM I model & share resources/info regularly, but it's slow going to get ppl to pursue their own learning. #edchat stumpteacher 2/1/11 7:01 PM @jen_dC Can you teach motivation or do you seek to find what motivates? #edchat limbert65 2/1/11 some great ideas. 7:01 PM First time in #edchat. Hoping to hear

Room5Friends 2/1/11 7:01 PM #edchat Show that there are benefits to being "lifelong learners." Unfortunate that some need extrinsic motivation, but true. Nunavut_Teacher 2/1/11 7:01 PM Lifelong learning : Ensure a collaborative atmosphere in schools instead of one based on competition. We learn better together. #edchat Jen_dC 2/1/11 7:01 PM can teach motivation #edchat @stumpteacher I think it is both, I think you

mgraffin 2/1/11 7:01 PM Good Q! RT @stumpteacher: Can you teach someone to be a lifelong learner or is it an innate ability we have? #edchat usamimi74 2/1/11 7:01 PM @Nunavut_Teacher I agree but sometimes sum of the best PD were the ones I knew nothing about & might not have chosen HylandInk 2/1/11 7:01 PM RT @kylepace: Welcome to #edchat. Thanks for joining in! Our topic tonight: How do we promote lifelong learning in all educators? kylepace #edchat tshreve #edchat 2/1/11 2/1/11 7:01 PM 7:01 PM @WackJacq How do we do that? Teach educators the value of a pln

blairteach 2/1/11 7:02 PM Everyone SHOULD be a lifelong learner. Don't agree they are. RT @gfreducation: Everyone is a life-long learner. It's about passion. #edchat hshawjr 2/1/11 7:02 PM I'm getting real-time search results at TweetGrid http://tweetgrid.com/ #edchat sinetpd360 2/1/11 7:02 PM Blog: President Obama Prepares to Speak At Another High School Commencement http://bit.ly/dZVo4a #edchat #education #cpchat tshreve 2/1/11 7:02 PM @jen_dC @stumpteacher I really think you can teach people to be lifelong learners, you just have to find the right "hook" #edchat mgraffin 2/1/11 value of a pln #edchat 7:02 PM RT @tshreve: Teach educators the

stumpteacher 2/1/11 7:02 PM If you want someone to be a life long learner you need to find what they are passionate about http://bit.ly/fqt7pb #edchat wmchamberlain 2/1/11 7:02 PM Everyone is a life long learner. The trick is to get them to learn what you want/need them to learn. #edchat kylepace 2/1/11 7:02 PM RT @stumpteacher: Can you teach someone to be a lifelong learner or is it an innate ability we have? #edchat kylepace 2/1/11 7:02 PM RT @davidwees: @kylepace Step one: Model it! Step two: Show how it saves time. Step three: Give teachers choice. #edchat

WackJacq 2/1/11 7:02 PM We must have the moral courage to be bold and take pedagogical risks in front of our peers. #edchat lookforsun 2/1/11 7:02 PM #edchat A colleague reopened the door to lifelong learning for me by demonstrating a positive, can-do, let's try it attitude - contagious. ian23505 2/1/11 7:02 PM @stumpteacher I believe people can learn. I wonder, "What are the conditions in that stifle the desire to be a lifelong learner?" #edchat tra_hall 2/1/11 7:02 PM This is my first time here! Looking forward to see what all the hipe is about #edchat kylepace #edchat 2/1/11 7:02 PM @blairteach I'm with you Nancy.

reasoningmind 2/1/11 7:02 PM One way we can promote lifelong learning in educators by having curriculum-related PD. #edchat Jen_dC 2/1/11 7:02 PM #edchat provide time for teachers to really explore and implement what they are learning. If no time, all the PD in the world is a waste usamimi74 2/1/11 7:02 PM RT @blairteach:depressing that we even have to discuss this topic. 1 would think educators should WANT to b lifelong learners. #edchat debbiefuco 2/1/11 7:03 PM RT @kylepace: RT @gfreducation: Everyone is a life-long learner. It's about passion. #edchat ~ Yes! Passion! kylepace 2/1/11 7:03 PM @limbert65 Here's our topic: How do we promote lifelong learning in all educators? #edchat stumpteacher 2/1/11 7:03 PM @tshreve @jen_dC I agree you have to find what motivates and gets people going. You are finding what is already inside of them #edchat usamimi74 2/1/11 7:03 PM or give them new passion RT @stumpteacher: If u want someone to b life long learner u need to find what they r passionate about #edchat CoachGinsburg 2/1/11 7:03 PM We're born to learn, school squelches that natural desire for many of us, making it an obligation more than a passion #edchat lookforsun 2/1/11 7:03 PM @reasoningmind #edchat Yes, curriculum-related pd that meets the educator's need - not redundant pd differentiated, not one size fits all.

TeacherSabrina 2/1/11 7:03 PM The Answer Sheet - Letter to President Obama: Who is a 'highly qualified' teacher? http://ow.ly/3Ouz5 #edchat #edreform #ptchat #ecosys blairteach 2/1/11 7:03 PM I regularly share resources w/colleagues but fear that, although good intentioned, its really enabling their lack of initiative. #edchat davidwees 2/1/11 7:03 PM @Nunavut_Teacher Yeah that's tricky. Merit pay is a step in the wrong direction for sure since it ensures competition. #edchat WackJacq 2/1/11 7:03 PM We must have the courage to step aside and let the students take us to new plces in the curriculum. #edchat kylepace 2/1/11 7:03 PM RT @gfreducation: Everyone is a lifelong learner. It's about passion. #edchat tra_hall 2/1/11 7:03 PM Fullen's whole idea that you ahve a moral obligation to usher people who refuse to be lifelong learners out of education seems valid #edchat Jen_dC 2/1/11 7:03 PM @stumpteacher I think more show the rewards--once I have reaped the benefits once I have learned the value of motivation...maybe #edchat stumpteacher 2/1/11 7:03 PM @ian23505 I think mediocrity, boredom, and stagnate behaviors lead to stifling life long learning. #edchat wmchamberlain 2/1/11 7:04 PM Isn't it a bit condescending to say someone doesn't learn simply because you don't appreciate it? #edchat gfreducation 2/1/11 7:04 PM @blairteach I think teachers learn everyday. They don't always want to change according to what they learned. #edchat tra_hall 2/1/11 7:04 PM I'm new to all this but I did virtually attend #Educon and the idea of #Edcamps seems interesting #edchat stumpteacher 2/1/11 7:04 PM @ian23505 Yes, I think we are often a product of our environment. Admin, peers, etc... #edchat graingered 2/1/11 7:04 PM @kylepace @stumpteacher If you can't teach someone how to be a lifelong learner, then he/she isn't a lifelong learner #edchat jasonfennell 2/1/11 7:04 PM RT @edoptionsinc: PLN:You Make Me A Better Person: http://bit.ly/eAbq23 (by @dane1434) #educon #edchat

usamimi74 2/1/11 7:04 PM obviously we are all big believer in PLN concept, but what are other incentives? #edchat ian23505 2/1/11 7:04 PM @stumpteacher To what extent do people fall into those behaviors because of factors around them? #edchat lookforsun 2/1/11 7:04 PM @tra_hall #edchat - Give them a chance first, sometimes the demands system's put in teachers' way prevents learning. justwonderinY 2/1/11 7:04 PM Creating communities of learning where everyone is valued and respected begins everyone on a collaborative learning path #edchat kylepace 2/1/11 that work well? #edchat 7:04 PM @positivelypt Where have you seen

math2go 2/1/11 7:04 PM Maybe everyone is a lifelong learner, but some choose to learn as little as possible. #edchat wmchamberlain 2/1/11 7:04 PM Often there is a difference between what we want people to learn and what they want to learn. #edchat blairteach 2/1/11 7:04 PM .@tra_hall Welcome to #edchat! Pick a few ppl out of the stream & engage them in conversation. positivelypt 2/1/11 7:04 PM @blairteach I felt that way too, but after a while people started to share with me. I just had to get it started. #edchat tomwhitby 2/1/11 7:04 PM #Edchat PD should not be a separate entity. it needs to be an ongoing component of an educator's profession. stumpteacher 2/1/11 7:04 PM @usamimi74 Can you give someone a passion? Or is it in them to start with and you bring it out? #edchat flavia_matias 2/1/11 7:04 PM @kylepace In order 2 be lifelong learners, teachers need 2 show readiness 4 that. #Edchat scastriotta 2/1/11 7:05 PM So true! RT @bhsprincipal: If we as educators do not model life-long learning, we can't expect to create students who will be. #edchat mgraffin 2/1/11 7:05 PM ntensive "PD days" are tiring, even when I'm paying my own way/in own time. I prefer twitter - learn what I want, when I want #edchat

reasoningmind 2/1/11 7:05 PM @lookforsun exactly. Why differentiate for students and not educators? We're all potential learners. #edchat mgraffin 2/1/11 7:05 PM RT @usamimi74: @stumpteacher U can introduce them to something that could become a passion. I knew nthg bout Twitter 2 yrs ago. am passionate now #edchat stumpteacher 2/1/11 7:05 PM @usamimi74 Agreed, but you are not teaching them you are exposing them. #edchat chadsansing 2/1/11 7:05 PM #edchat the best we can do is show how much we love our learning & recreate & protect the learning freedoms/conditions we enjoy for students melynntwit 2/1/11 7:05 PM PD should be just like classroom. Should be choice in content, method, delivery, processing. Should be differentiated in everyway. #edchat usamimi74 2/1/11 7:05 PM @stumpteacher U can introduce them to something that could become a passion. I knew nthg bout Twitter 2 yrs ago. am passionate now #edchat positivelypt 2/1/11 7:05 PM @kylespace #edchat in classrooms where teachers have the ability to plan lessons considering student interest and backgrounds - DAP #edchat edtechworkshop 2/1/11 7:05 PM some people get into a comfort zone & stop risking. You have to give support while gently pushing. #edchat bhsprincipal 2/1/11 7:05 PM If we as educators do not model lifelong learning, we can't expect to create students who will be. #edchat kylepace 2/1/11 7:05 PM @flavia_matias What does that readiness look like? How would you know I was ready? #edchat iearnusa 2/1/11 7:05 PM Joining #edchat tonight

cyclone_alyssa 2/1/11 7:05 PM we have to convince ppl that change is good..doing the same thing year after year doesnt always benefit or meet needs of todays kids #edchat flavia_matias 2/1/11 7:05 PM not something static. #Edchat Learning is a dynamic process, its

lookforsun 2/1/11 7:05 PM @kylepace @limbert65 #edchat Promote a learning, collaborative culture in schools that celebrates learning in many ways.

Room5Friends 2/1/11 7:05 PM #edchat Benefits like students who enjoy learning, new/grant provided materials, parent approval, peer collaboration, etc. WackJacq 2/1/11 7:05 PM Learning is not usually prescribed when found in its natural habitat. #edchat stumpteacher 2/1/11 7:05 PM think you can teach it? #edchat ian23505 2/1/11 7:05 PM supports continuous learning. #edchat @graingered @kylepace So you don't @justwonderinY Agreed. That culture

tra_hall 2/1/11 7:06 PM @lookforsun I give them plenty of chances but at some point its time to go because they refuse #edchat alhelmy 2/1/11 7:06 PM @edtechworkshop that is just it, some teachers are afraid to take risks in their teaching, it is okay to try new things #edchat WackJacq 2/1/11 7:06 PM The problem iz the system. Not necessarily the players involved. #edchat kylepace 2/1/11 7:06 PM @positivelypt So you're saying that giving students avenues to pursue their passion promotes an attitude of lifelong learning? #edchat web20guru 2/1/11 7:06 PM RT @bhsprincipal: If we as educators do not model life-long learning, we can't expect to create students who will be. #edchat davidwees 2/1/11 7:06 PM @lookforsun @usamimi74 If learning is a part of our evaluation, how will we prove that we have done it? #edchat stumpteacher 2/1/11 7:06 PM Everyone has the ability to be a lifelong learner, it is a matter of being exposed to something worth learning about. #edchat tomwhitby 2/1/11 7:06 PM Social Media allows us to share what is going on globally in education. This offers directions or options unknown prior to SM #Edchat tra_hall 2/1/11 7:06 PM @scastriotta Principals must be the chief model of a life long learner #edchat Room5Friends 2/1/11 7:06 PM RT @melynntwit: PD should be just like classroom. Should be choice in content, method, delivery, processing. Should be differentiated in everyway. #edchat

mgraffin 2/1/11 7:06 PM RT @melynntwit: PD should be just like classroom. Should be choice in content, method, delivery, processing. Should be differentiated in everyway. #edchat CoachGinsburg 2/1/11 7:06 PM @melynntwit Absolutely! Cookie-cutter PD doesn't exactly promote lifelong learning. #edchat tshreve 2/1/11 7:06 PM @stumpteacher @jen_dC It is also about creating an atmosphere that promotes learning #edchat ian23505 2/1/11 7:06 PM My job as a leader is to create a climate in which everyone, teachers and students (and me), can learn at high levels. #edchat iearnusa 2/1/11 7:06 PM Yes. @justwonderinY: Creating communities of learning where everyone is valued & respected begins everyone oncollaborative path #edchat math2go 2/1/11 contageous! #edchat 7:06 PM And remember, a passion can be

usamimi74 2/1/11 7:06 PM RT @wmchamberlain: Isnt it a bit condescending to say someone doesnt learn simply because you dont appreciate it? #edchat justwonderinY 2/1/11 7:06 PM @ian23505 I think you make a good point. Factors could include schools where teachers aren't given ed freedom & have to script #edchat cyclone_alyssa 2/1/11 7:06 PM problem with offering choice at our school is ppl have no idea what they r signing up 4 & dont bother to look it up beforehand #edchat DelaneyKirk 2/1/11 7:06 PM Interesting question. RT @kylepace @stumpteacher:Can you teach someone to be a lifelong learner or is it an innate ability we have? #edchat mgraffin 2/1/11 7:06 PM RT @bhsprincipal: If we as educators do not model life-long learning, we can't expect to create students who will be. #edchat lookforsun 2/1/11 7:06 PM @usamimi74 #edchat I do think that learning should be a part of teacher's evals - it should be expected that teachers will continue to learn WackJacq 2/1/11 7:06 PM RT @melynntwit: Should be choice in content, method, delivery, processing. Should be differentiated in everyway. #edchat

stumpteacher 2/1/11 7:06 PM RT @reasoningmind: @lookforsun exactly. Why differentiate for students and not educators? We're all potential learners. #edchat kylepace 2/1/11 7:06 PM RT @bhsprincipal: If we as educators do not model life-long learning, we can't expect to create students who will be. #edchat stumpteacher 2/1/11 7:07 PM @tshreve @jen_dC Agreed, school/dist. culture goes a long way in promoting or stifling it. #edchat cybraryman1 2/1/11 7:07 PM Ed Camps / Teach Meets educon ... can bring foster the passion to learn new things, collaborate & share ideas #edchat wmchamberlain 2/1/11 7:07 PM How many of you model learning un-schooly things to your students? I showed them my ukulele, they enjoyed it. #edchat kkemp70 2/1/11 7:07 PM @lookforsun #edchat Totally agree having a coworker who is also keen to learn really helps to inspire - learning is about sharing ideas. usamimi74 2/1/11 7:10 PM @davidwees I would love that... am more n more passionate each day about personal assessment vs. summative tomwhitby 2/1/11 7:10 PM Schools need to be an atmosphere of learning. It needs to be modeled and supported by all. It's more than content thrown at kids. #edchat wmchamberlain 2/1/11 teachable moments :) #edchat 7:10 PM @limbert65 We make

mnjorgensen 2/1/11 7:10 PM RT @tra_hall: @scastriotta Principals must be the chief model of a life long learner #edchat principalD 2/1/11 7:10 PM RT @L_Hilt: We make continued learning part of the job description and make it an expectation. Then provide time and support to grow. #edchat iearnusa 2/1/11 7:10 PM Lifelong learning is mroe enjoyable with friends. We like to introduce #teachers to their peers worldwide. #edchat. chadsansing 2/1/11 7:10 PM #edchat there should be no diff in lifelong learning conditions schls set for kids & adults; everyone deserves them & differentiated spprt seburnt 2/1/11 7:10 PM We can also show life long learning by example and be inspiring that way. #edchat

stumpteacher 2/1/11 7:10 PM @graingered @kylepace Good point. It is an attitude that can be cultivated and encouraged but not taught. #edchat blairteach 2/1/11 is an attitude. #edchat 7:10 PM @graingered I agree. Lifelong learning

MsBuell 2/1/11 7:10 PM Honestly, I would take more classes if they were free or paid for by grant. Grant money class exposed me to twitter 2/08 #edchat pete_rodrigues 2/1/11 7:10 PM mantra of "ask forgiveness....#edchat @Mamacita I'm all for the

ian23505 2/1/11 7:10 PM @pete_rodrigues Totally agree. What else would create an ideal environment for lifelong learning? #edchat Jen_dC 2/1/11 7:10 PM @blairteach isn't "only a few" better than none at all b/c they never saw it modeled. Celebrate small victories #edchat tkraz 2/1/11 #edchat 7:10 PM In what ways do you model LLR for students?

edtechworkshop 2/1/11 7:10 PM @alhelmy not only ok, it's really at the core of learning/teaching. A teacher's job is to make risk ok. #edchat kylepace 2/1/11 7:10 PM RT @blairteach: Barrier: It is what we know already that often prevents us from LEARNING. Claude Bernard #edchat math2go 2/1/11 7:10 PM RT @blairteach: RT @tra_hall: Principals must be the chief model of a life long learner. #edchat <even if not, teachers should be! limbert65 2/1/11 7:10 PM @ian23505: What are the conditions within a school/district that foster and support lifelong PROFESSIONAL learning? #edchat #iowa1to1 32591599389118464 L_Hilt 2/1/2011 7:10 PM We make continued learning part of the job description and make it an expectat edtechworkshop 2/1/11 7:11 PM @wmchamberlain @usamimi74 I do things in front of them that I'm not that good at, too. Modeling "out of comfort zone." it's hard! #edchat Nunavut_Teacher 2/1/11 7:11 PM RT @kylepace: Ok so I'm Mr. "Don't have anything else to learn". Where do you start with me? We can all identify with that person right? #edchat stumpteacher 2/1/11 7:11 PM Lifelong learning is a cultural thing that must be fostered, modeled, and encouraged not taught and forced. #edchat

iearnusa 2/1/11 7:11 PM RT @positivelypt: @wmchamberlain I taught my students abt the world from our "Traveling Teddy" with postcards I have collected over yrs. #edchat chadsansing 2/1/11 7:11 PM #edchat schls need to be more like info wrkplaces; only in schls do we struggle so much looking back; other sectors look ahead & learn more graingered 2/1/11 7:11 PM @kylepace @stumpteacher Yes. Lifelong lrning is a perspectiv that canB modeled/nurtured. Lrning skills need2B more explicitly taught #edchat CoachGinsburg 2/1/11 7:11 PM @limbert65 The key factor is that it's contextual for the learner. Why I'm such a huge proponent of coaching. #edchat wmchamberlain 2/1/11 have time to learn. #edchat 7:11 PM @kylepace more likely I don't

erinneo 2/1/11 7:11 PM Is it possible that the term life long learning implies that learning only takes place in schools? #edchat positivelypt 2/1/11 7:11 PM @wmchamberlain I taught my students abt the world from our "Traveling Teddy" with postcards I have collected over yrs. #edchat drezac 2/1/11 7:11 PM RT @drezac: Very nice @Smeech : Another take on the iPad in education http://j.mp/fkBrLI #edchat #iear bhsprincipal 2/1/11 7:11 PM @PAprincipal Yes. That sounds like what @gcouros and I said in our #educon session. #edchat Jen_dC 2/1/11 7:11 PM #edchat I also believe that sharing the success of other life long learners in the school promotes a culture of life long learning mikevigilant 2/1/11 7:11 PM Anyone have experience with Positive Behavior Intervention Support? We're considering it at my school...is it really all that? #edchat Nunavut_Teacher 2/1/11 7:11 PM RT @WackJacq: If we want students to become critical thinkers, they must have early opps. to practice their executive thinking skills. #edchat kylepace 2/1/11 7:11 PM Ok so I'm Mr. "Don't have anything else to learn". Where do you start with me? We can all identify with that person right? #edchat

math2go 2/1/11 7:11 PM RT @tomwhitby: Schools need to be an atmosphere of learning. It needs to be modeled and supported by all. It's more than content thrown at kids. #edchat tra_hall 2/1/11 7:11 PM @ian33505 Principals in the formal culture modeling is fine but teacher leaders have to be the ones to maintain the informal culture #edchat chriszuccaro 2/1/11 7:11 PM RT @L_Hilt:We make continued learning part of the job description and make it an expectation. Then provide time and support to grow. #edchat WackJacq 2/1/11 7:11 PM If we want students to become critical thinkers, they must have early opps. to practice their executive thinking skills. #edchat Edu_Traveler 2/1/11 7:11 PM Many stop being interested in learning once they reach a certain level and that's when the disconnect begins. #edchat math2go 2/1/11 7:11 PM RT @tktchr: Same for teachers! Some need lots support RT @math2go: Sometimes kids haven't discovered passion. Need lots of structured chances. #edchat MrsDi 2/1/11 7:12 PM And how to deal with staff that *think* they are lifelong learners, and really are not... #edchat shaugland 2/1/11 7:12 PM RT @Mamacita: Many teachers would love to try new things, but don't dare b/c of admin. who see evil wherever they don't understand something. #edchat stumpteacher 2/1/11 7:12 PM RT @gfreducation: @CoachGinsburg I think negative school climate squashes passion not school itself. #edchat Nunavut_Teacher 2/1/11 7:12 PM @kylepace Best way to address a person such as that is share examples and don't be preachy. #edchat wmchamberlain 2/1/11 7:12 PM sometimes. It isn't pretty :) #edchat @edtechworkshop I sing

WackJacq 2/1/11 7:12 PM 2 B a model of lfe-long learning means we must B willing 2 learn "live" in front of studs, so we cn truly mentor & model 4 them. #edchat DelaneyKirk 2/1/11 7:12 PM I tell my students that I knew it all when graduated from HS. Now after 3 college degrees, I realize how much I don't know #edchat

stumpteacher 2/1/11 7:12 PM We promote life long learners simply by providing them opportunity and time to pursue what they are passionate about. #edchat gfreducation 2/1/11 7:12 PM @CoachGinsburg I think negative school climate squashes passion not school itself. #edchat ian23505 2/1/11 7:12 PM @L_Hilt Thank you! The hiring process and expectations we set for new hires are key! #edchat tomwhitby 2/1/11 7:12 PM Fostering critical thinking, collaboration and communication skills schoolwide enables teachers to participate in learning. #Edchat wmchamberlain 2/1/11 7:12 PM @positivelypt I bet they loved that. I have a few students that would want to check out the places using google maps. #edchat eduk8u 2/1/11 7:12 PM RT @Nunavut_Teacher: The conditions have to be set to promote lifelong learning. You can't force people to be lifelong learners. #choice #edchat usamimi74 2/1/11 7:12 PM or we think we know RT @blairteach: Barrier: It is what we know already that often prevents us from LEARNING. Claude Bernard #edchat Mamacita 2/1/11 7:12 PM @pete_rodrigues Sadly, many of those in charge find it much easier to condemn than to understand. #edchat math2go 2/1/11 7:12 PM RT @karenszymusiak: How often do we tell our students about what we are learning? Model excitement for our own learning. #edchat blairteach 2/1/11 7:12 PM @Jen_dC I try to celebrate the small changes when they happen. Thanks. #edchat brophycat 2/1/11 7:12 PM @kylepace we have to dev relationship and find way to see what excites them;what they r interested in #backdoor #edchat eduk8u 2/1/11 7:12 PM RT @WackJacq: If we want students to become critical thinkers, they must have early opps. to practice their executive thinking skills. #edchat davidwees 2/1/11 7:12 PM I asked a classmate at graduation from my MET if he was on Twitter. He said, "No, I already know everything I need." #edchat #fail

cybraryman1 2/1/11 7:12 PM RT @karenszymusiak: How often do we tell our students about what we are learning? Model excitement for our own learning. #edchat Room5Friends 2/1/11 7:12 PM #edchat I have some PBIS experience and other BIP experience. DM for more or email me at kolism@bbhcsd.org. bbridges51 2/1/11 7:12 PM i get dizzy trying to follow #edchat posts. Even when they're not meeting, the stream is swift. Good to be ADD i guess. karenszymusiak 2/1/11 7:12 PM How often do we tell our students about what we are learning? Model excitement for our own learning. #edchat tshreve 2/1/11 7:12 PM @kylepace @positivelypt Not just giving avenues, but celebrating each student's choice of passion, whether artistic, athletic, etc. #edchat cybraryman1 2/1/11 7:12 PM RT @stumpteacher: Lifelong learning is a cultural thing that must be fostered, modeled, and encouraged not taught and forced. #edchat MrsDi 2/1/11 7:12 PM What defines "lifelong learning"? How do I explain that to a middle schooler? #edchat jeffmason 2/1/11 7:13 PM True "rigorous" learning is driven by passion not overly demanding curricula #edchat L_Hilt 2/1/11 7:13 PM @becky7274 That's a result of the traditional school structure. We need to get creative! #edchat blairteach 2/1/11 7:13 PM The problem is never how to get NEW innovative things into your mind but how to get the OLD ones out. Unknown #edchat pete_rodrigues 2/1/11 7:13 PM @Mamacita thats why its fun to push the envelope can't know until you try #edchat bhsprincipal 2/1/11 7:13 PM @paytonhobbs It's not that educators resist prof. devlopment, just that too many haven't experienced meaningful PD #edchat tra_hall 2/1/11 7:13 PM @ian23505 Here is Dr Muhhamads Framework http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeMvndZ2U_A #edchat

graingered 2/1/11 7:19 PM RT @drtimony: Active PD within the school building is a result not a mandate. If it's not happening, need to look at #ecosys. Context is king #edchat tktchr 2/1/11 7:19 PM #edchat PD - what about some time for reflection... don't think we get much of that at all JosieHolford 2/1/11 7:19 PM @Nunavut_Teacher Promote lifelong learning by... being a lifelong learner. And relishing its value. #edchat erinneo 2/1/11 7:19 PM RT @flavia_matias: I may have a Masters or PhD degree, but if I dont keep on studying all my knowledge will get obsolete. #Edchat blairteach 2/1/11 7:19 PM Very true! RT @tra_hall: Teacher Collaboration Time Is Key! TIME TIME TIME TIME #edchat MrsDi 2/1/11 7:19 PM @Jen_dC Great question & one I need to think about! Mind is racing trying to relabel to something more user friendly! #edchat ALShealy 2/1/11 7:19 PM Do you ever ask teachers around you what they are contributing to make the school a better place? #edchat mritzius 2/1/11 too. #edchat 7:19 PM @bhsprincipal one size fits all stinks

mariannedavis49 2/1/11 7:19 PM RT @tra_hall: Teacher Collaboration Time Is Key! TIME TIME TIME TIME #edchat ITCoachBill 2/1/11 7:19 PM We must teach students how to get relevant information for themselves and to THINK! #edchat onealchris 2/1/11 7:19 PM RT @BeckyFisher73: Connected Teaching/Leading/Learning - http://bit.ly/eL2jve - #edchat iearnusa 2/1/11 7:19 PM RT @BeckyFisher73: Connected Teaching/Leading/Learning - http://bit.ly/eL2jve - #edchat mtechman 2/1/11 7:19 PM "learning", rather than LLL ? #edchat @MrsDi good one - how about just

melynntwit 2/1/11 7:19 PM RT @kylepace: RT @bhsprincipal: Professional Development is learning and students and staff should have opportunities for this every day. #edchat blairteach 2/1/11 7:19 PM RT @tomwhitby: We can't expect outside the box results ,if we continue to control learning with inside the box methods! #edchat

math2go 2/1/11 7:19 PM RT @Edu_Traveler: okay to not know the answer, just enjoy the process #edchat <funny, that's what I say to new teachers! KtheBear 2/1/11 7:19 PM RT @SFFedReserve: Graphic: 16902010 See how money & banking evolved before & after the Fed http://ht.ly/3MjXM @planetmoney #sschat #edchat erinneo 2/1/11 7:19 PM @debbiefuco I would say a confidence issue. Some people feel that learning a new way automatically invalidates the old way. #edchat positivelypt 2/1/11 7:19 PM I feel like the pd I've had has always been the same topics - blooms taxonomy, multiple intelligences, and the latest curriculum #edchat kylepace 2/1/11 7:19 PM @Nunavut_Teacher So if we're promoting that our students should be this way, why aren't all teachers? #edchat djgallagher 2/1/11 7:19 PM RT @debbiefuco: Elephant in the room: Some teachers don't seem to want to learn anything new. Is it a confidence issue or simply a lack of desire? #edchat tra_hall 2/1/11 7:19 PM TIME TIME TIME TIME #edchat Teacher Collaboration Time Is Key!

MoodleMcKean 2/1/11 7:20 PM What Would You Like to See in Moodle 3.0? | Moodle News http://bit.ly/fE7lcL #moodle #edtech #edchat #elearning #lrnchat #tlchat math2go 2/1/11 7:20 PM RT @debbiefuco: Elephant in room: Sme tchers don't want to lrn anything confidence issue or lack desire? #edchat <or retired in place? tshreve 2/1/11 7:20 PM @tomwhitby @techfacil One reason why I'm a big proponent of open wifi at school. #edchat amandacdykes 2/1/11 7:20 PM #Edchat has started. My brain is spent. Looks like too much trouble to think. Back to yellow meal & free drinks bc who knows when I'll eat erinneo 2/1/11 7:20 PM @tomwhitby That is exactly what I find with so much PD, it's all delivered in the stand & deliver way, for convenience most likely. #edchat WackJacq 2/1/11 7:20 PM I think we need to hve more opps for flexible scheduling in school. But that is more diff to administer, isn't it? #edchat

Jen_dC 2/1/11 7:20 PM @MrsDi the problem is finding something user friendly that continues to be so snappy and alliterative #edchat YanikFalardeau 2/1/11 7:20 PM RT @Nunavut_Teacher: Promote lifelong learning by being positive, share examples of success but don't preach. #edchat davidwees 2/1/11 7:20 PM @stumpteacher How do we motivate our reluctant student learners? We find relevancy for them, should do same for teachers. #edchat alhelmy 2/1/11 7:20 PM The same is true for tchrs and stdnts, dont be afraid that your stdnts might know something with tech that you don't@Edu_Traveler #edchat MrsDi 2/1/11 7:20 PM @mtechman We know that we need to be modeling this, love the word "curiousity" brought up earlier - #edchat Room5Friends 2/1/11 you are interested in? 7:20 PM #edchat Sign up for the book

rrodgers 2/1/11 7:20 PM Too many PD programs determined from "on high", with no regard for individualization. #edchat iearnusa 2/1/11 7:20 PM RT @usamimi74: how many teachers r ready to admit openly that they can learn from their students? #edchat carolgau 2/1/11 7:20 PM RT @debbiefuco: Elephant in the room: Some teachers don't seem to want to learn anything new. Is it a confidence issue or simply a lack of desire? #edchat ericjuli2/1/11 7:20 PM My choosing to get on twitter & blog is my attempt to keep learning. As world changes, I become obsolete if I don't change with it #edchat usamimi74 2/1/11 7:20 PM how many teachers r ready to admit openly that they can learn from their students? #edchat Room5Friends 2/1/11 7:20 PM #edchat What about just READING BOOKS? Can we encourage our colleagues to read and then start a book club and share? tomwhitby 2/1/11 7:20 PM If PD is so important, why isn't it sheduled into everyone's schedule. If it needs to be relevant much of it should occur in school. #Edchat melynntwit 2/1/11 7:20 PM PD doesn't have to look "traditional"...so many options now #edchat

ICBEU_ISAT 2/1/11 7:20 PM RT @flavia_matias: Learning is a dynamic process, its not something static. #Edchat karenszymusiak 2/1/11 7:20 PM teachers to be self-directed learners? #edchat How can we encourage

Nunavut_Teacher 2/1/11 7:20 PM RT @JosieHolford: @Nunavut_Teacher Promote lifelong learning by... being a lifelong learner. And relishing its value. #edchat wmchamberlain 2/1/11 7:20 PM @kylepace @Nunavut_Teacher Simple, we are a product of the system we are perpetuating. #edchat bhsprincipal 2/1/11 7:20 PM @ian23505 I think if your goals are broad enough, choices are pretty wide-open. #edchat brophycat 2/1/11 7:20 PM RT @BeckyFisher73: Connected Teaching/Leading/Learning - http://bit.ly/eL2jve - #edchat lookforsun 2/1/11 7:20 PM @kkemp70 @alhelmy #edchat Every educator picks up some things quickly and others at a slower pace - depends on style, interest, life demands stumpteacher 2/1/11 7:20 PM Can you force someone to be a "better" teacher and learn to evolve their craft? #edchat kylepace 2/1/11 7:20 PM RT @rrodgers: Involve teachers in determining learning that meets THEIR needs. Greater relevance=greater engagement. #edchat blairteach 2/1/11 7:21 PM @usamimi74 There is lots of "in house" talent, but staff members do not always accept experts w/in their midst. #edchat graingered 2/1/11 7:21 PM @DrTimony Embedded, relevant PD is truly a result of collaborative and systemic connection within schoolresponsive,no hoop jumping #edchat Nunavut_Teacher 2/1/11 7:21 PM RT @usamimi74: I think too often schools don't recognize "in house" talent. Most PD could be done by fellow teacher for 1/2 price of spkrs #edchat tshreve 2/1/11 7:21 PM @Mamacita @pete_rodrigues Teachers who don't want to learn are scared, arrogant, or in the wrong educational situation. #edchat MrsDi 2/1/11 tongue! #edchat 7:21 PM @Jen_dC LOL! Yes, LLL does roll off the

NMHS_Principal 2/1/11 7:21 PM @tomwhitby I am looking to get rid of all non-teaching duties and give each teacher a prof growth period each day=scheduled #edchat ian23505 2/1/11 7:21 PM @bhsprincipal Should goals be very broad or tuned to the specific needs of student learning? #edchat lookforsun 2/1/11 you. #edchat 7:21 PM @alhelmy Yes, let your students teach

PLANETPALS 2/1/11 7:21 PM Planetpals Books w green activitiesClassroom Book - Earthday Everyday - Coloring Books http://plpls.com/aANHUu #ece #edchat #moms math2go 2/1/11 7:21 PM RT @lookforsun: @erinneo @debbiefuco #edchat Needs to be a bit of the old and new mixed as we move forward - keeping the best of the best and embracing new. chriszuccaro 2/1/11 7:21 PM PD needs to be structured like this Twitter session... I can learn at a time that is convenient and I don't miss time with my kids.#edchat cybraryman1 2/1/11 7:21 PM RT @YanikFalardeau: RT @Nunavut_Teacher: Promote lifelong learning by being positive, share examples of success but dont preach. #edchat ritasimsan 2/1/11 7:21 PM RT @karenszymusiak: How often do we tell our students about what we are learning? Model excitement for our own learning. #edchat WackJacq #edchat 2/1/11 7:21 PM Standardization kills innovation.

alhelmy 2/1/11 7:21 PM RT @usamimi74: how many teachers r ready to admit openly that they can learn from their students? #edchat drtimony 2/1/11 7:21 PM schools make loudest statements to faculty in their decisions RE who can manage them and what they need via enforced PD #edchat brophycat 2/1/11 7:21 PM how many of you are in schools that schedule PD at the start of the day or is built into the week's schedule-not tacked on the end? #edchat tra_hall 2/1/11 7:21 PM One thing I've learned w/#HSTW and Apple Prof Development issmall groups of teacher friends in PD sessions is amazing! @blairteach #edchat

usamimi74 2/1/11 7:21 PM based on communication n exchange RT @ICBEU_ISAT: RT @flavia_matias: Learning is a dynamic process, its not something static. #edchat lookforsun 2/1/11 7:21 PM @erinneo @debbiefuco #edchat Needs to be a bit of the old and new mixed as we move forward - keeping the best of the best and embracing new. mikevigilant 2/1/11 7:21 PM @bhsprincipal ...That said, if it was up to them, would the ones that need it most really take it? Too easy to make excuses? #edchat limbert65 2/1/11 7:21 PM (Wow. Finding that doing #edchat on a Droid with poor signal is an exercise in frustration.) Dr_Granny 2/1/11 7:21 PM RT @Nunavut_Teacher: Lifelong learning : Ensure a collaborative atmosphere in schools instead of one based on competition. We learn better together. #edchat bhsprincipal 2/1/11 7:21 PM @ian23505 Bottom line is what are the intended outcomes for students due to PD teacher participates in? #edchat mgraffin 2/1/11 7:21 PM RT @mikevigilant: @bhsprincipal Agreed--the best PD I've had, I chose myself. Perhaps choice is important? Educators know what they need? #edchat pete_rodrigues 2/1/11 7:22 PM have a "prep" period currently #edchat @NMHS_Principal do they also

iearnusa 2/1/11 7:22 PM RT @tomwhitby: Access to Social Media provides a great source to relevant educational awareness and learning. When will education accept it? #Edchat erinneo #edchat erinneo #edchat 2/1/11 2/1/11 7:22 PM 7:22 PM @tshreve And so are those students. @tshreve And so are those students.

Nunavut_Teacher 2/1/11 7:22 PM RT @stumpteacher: @erinneo If you force me to sit in a session that is not relevant to me then that is not worth "learning: Make it relevant. #edchat Room5Friends 2/1/11 7:22 PM #edchat What are some other real life examples? Twitter, facebook, nings, blogs, book clubs, PD opps, others? tomwhitby 2/1/11 7:22 PM Access to Social Media provides a great source to relevant educational awareness and learning. When will education accept it? #Edchat

rkiker 2/1/11 7:22 PM RT @bhsprincipal I think we spend way too much time worrying about the few that won't benefit from any model of PD #edchat davidwees 2/1/11 7:22 PM @stumpteacher Right, we couldn't force them to want to learn anymore than we could with kids. #edchat WackJacq 2/1/11 7:22 PM Its hard to appear preachy when the students decide the topics and help create the rule and rubrics. ITS THEIR SHOW! #edchat DelaneyKirk 2/1/11 7:22 PM RT @karenszymusiak: How often do we tell our students about what we are learning? Model excitement for our own learning. #edchat edtechworkshop 2/1/11 7:22 PM WOW! RT @NMHS_Principal I'm looking to get rid of all non-teaching duties & give each tchr a prof growth period each day=scheduled #edchat LindaReed 2/1/11 7:22 PM Long Learning. Very fun convo.--join in! @cmeden I'm on #edchat Topic is Life

ian23505 2/1/11 7:22 PM @bhsprincipal Well, there you go. So long as the bottom line is the outcome for students then I would agree on free choice. #edchat debbiefuco 2/1/11 7:22 PM RT @rrodgers: Involve teachers in determining learning that meets THEIR needs. Greater relevance=greater engagement. #edchat ~Differentiate! rkiker 2/1/11 7:22 PM RT @NMHS_Principal: I am looking to get rid of all non-teaching duties and give each teacher a prof growth period each day=scheduled #edchat stumpteacher 2/1/11 7:22 PM RT @NMHS_Principal: @tomwhitby I am looking to get rid of all non-teaching duties and give each teacher a prof growth period each day=scheduled #edchat thinkcritical01 2/1/11 7:22 PM RT @tomwhitby: We can't expect outside the box results ,if we continue to control learning with inside the box methods! #Edchat math2go 2/1/11 7:22 PM RT @blairteach: @usamimi74 There is lots of "in house" talent, but staff members do not always accept experts w/in their midst. #edchat

bhsprincipal 2/1/11 7:22 PM @mikevigilant I think we spend way too much time worrying about the few that won't benefit from any model of PD #edchat techfacil 2/1/11 7:22 PM So true! RT @flavia_matias: I may have a Masters or PhD degree, but if I dont keep on studying all my knowledge will get obsolete. #Edchat tra_hall 2/1/11 7:22 PM @bhsprincipal @ian23505 I disagree with broad goals Rather I think PD goals should be narrow and there are still tons of resources #edchat gfreducation 2/1/11 innovation. #edchat 7:22 PM RT @WackJacq: Standardization kills

stumpteacher 2/1/11 7:22 PM @davidwees Yes, but it must be something that is relevant and connected to their work. Don't force it. Wouldn't with kids. #edchat mariannedavis49 2/1/11 7:22 PM What structures do districts provide to give teachers time to collaborate? #edchat alhelmy #edchat 2/1/11 7:22 PM @usamimi74 hopefully all of them

spedgeek 2/1/11 7:23 PM RT @cybraryman1: My newest pages: Symbaloo: http://bit.ly/eralMy Flickr: http://bit.ly/eSuwYy #edchat 4thGrdTeach 2/1/11 7:23 PM show what you have learned #edchat Action speaks louder than words,

kylepace 2/1/11 7:23 PM RT @math2go: The best teachers and admins find the time to collaborate, given or not... just saying...#edchat zaltech 2/1/11 7:23 PM RT @cybraryman1: Everyone here is a lifelong learner. The key is to get reluctant colleagues to join us in the learning on Twitter. #edchat Edu_Traveler 2/1/11 7:23 PM @NMHS_Principal @tomwhitby My last yr as principal teachers met by discipline every day..it was the most movement I saw in 4 years! #edchat ALShealy 2/1/11 7:23 PM Think of incredible PD tchrs could experience if they established PLNs. I've gleaned more from Twitter than from most grad courses #edchat bhsprincipal 2/1/11 7:23 PM We need to trust our teachers. How about giving them the 20% time that Google does to do pursue PD in whatever they want? #edchat

tkraz 2/1/11 7:23 PM horse to water... #edchat

@bhsprincipal Agreed! You can lead the

cybraryman1 2/1/11 7:23 PM RT @math2go: The best teachers and admins find the time to collaborate, given or not... just saying...#edchat #edchat Nunavut_Teacher 2/1/11 7:23 PM learning: Allow teachers to take risks. #edchat How to promote lifelong

stumpteacher 2/1/11 7:23 PM @davidwees Which is why we need to have choice and an unconference style to institutes and faculty PD meetings. #edchat tra_hall 2/1/11 7:23 PM @djgallagher @mariannedavis49 @blairteach what are ways that schools set up their "time" to have more PD #edchat drtimony 2/1/11 7:23 PM what about community relationships. I am a big proponent of exchange programs. How can/does your school bring in community to do PD? #edchat PLANETPALS 2/1/11 7:23 PM Green celebrations this month: planetpals eco calendar http://plpls.com/aHECOk #edchat #eco #ecomonday >RT @LittleGreenBlog ericjuli2/1/11 7:23 PM @tomwhitby Once a month my district has a 4.5 hour PD at each school-I think this says the district values adult learning #edchat math2go 2/1/11 7:23 PM RT @cybraryman1: Everyone here is a lifelong learner. The key is to get reluctant colleagues to join us in the learning on Twitter. #edchat melynntwit 2/1/11 7:23 PM @Room5Friends Our school started a book club as part of our PD. Staff could choose from 5 books). Using @edmodo to discuss. #edchat cyclone_alyssa 2/1/11 7:23 PM @blairteach @usamimi74 especially if those experts are young (1st/2nd year teachers!) #edchat erinneo 2/1/11 7:23 PM method of delivery? #edchat @blairteach Perhaps it depends on the

usamimi74 2/1/11 7:23 PM @blairteach then it is time for some major "team building activities". climate has to be right.. a little Fish Philosophy maybe? LOL #edchat

MrsDi 2/1/11 7:23 PM @blairteach Great point - LLL is embedded in the docs and mission statements, so how to make it appealing & approachable? #edchat kylepace 2/1/11 7:23 PM @NMHS_Principal @tomwhitby Is that period going to be structured in some way? Just curious. #edchat math2go 2/1/11 7:23 PM The best teachers and admins find the time to collaborate, given or not... just saying...#edchat merchantkrystle 2/1/11 7:23 PM i remembered #edchat for the first time in a long time tonight...but it seems to be the same old conversation. teachersharetp 2/1/11 7:23 PM RT @blairteach: RT @tomwhitby: We can't expect outside the box results ,if we continue to control learning with inside the box methods! #edchat lookforsun 2/1/11 7:23 PM @blairteach @usamimi74 #edchat It's expert's obligation to understand their audience, know who they are working with - not make assumptions. gottsled 2/1/11 7:23 PM RT @cybraryman1: "The illiterate of the 21st century will not be those who cannot read and write, but those who cannot learn, unlearn, and relearn. " #edchat NMHS_Principal 2/1/11 7:23 PM @tomwhitby Admin (me and my team) will assume then assume those duties previously assigned to teachers #edchat cybraryman1 2/1/11 7:23 PM Everyone here is a lifelong learner. The key is to get reluctant colleagues to join us in the learning on Twitter. #edchat blairteach 2/1/11 7:23 PM RT @davidwees: Right, we couldn't force them to want to learn anymore than we could with kids. #edchat JosieHolford 2/1/11 7:23 PM @usamimi74<How many teachers r ready to admit openly that they can learn from their students?> #edchat AND provide examples cyclone_alyssa 2/1/11 7:24 PM Sweet! RT @NMHS_Principal I'm looking to get rid of all non-teaching duties & give each tchr a prof growth period each day=scheduled #edchat mgraffin 2/1/11 7:24 PM @cyclone_alyssa @blairteach @usamimi74 sorry to jump in, but 1st yr tchrs P/know ain't always respected #edchat

Jen_dC 2/1/11 7:24 PM collaborating as well? #edchat

@math2go but don't the "not best" need to be

gfreducation 2/1/11 7:24 PM RT @ITCoachBill: Our grading systems have become irrelevant for education and the future of our children. #edchat So true! davidwees 2/1/11 7:24 PM @stumpteacher Yes! The #unconference model might bring back some teachers into learning who were previously reluctanct. #edchat alhelmy 2/1/11 7:24 PM RT @usamimi74 There is lots of "in house" talent, but staff members do not always accept experts w/in their midst. #edchat bhsprincipal 2/1/11 7:24 PM @mpondu It was a true privilege for @gcouros and I to lead a conversation at #educon. #edchat rrodgers 2/1/11 7:24 PM @nmhs_principal. When you do that, write a book. It would be a game-changer. #edchat DelaneyKirk 2/1/11 7:24 PM @karenszymusiak Also modeling importance of reading newspaper, Wall Street Journal etc. #edchat profespringer 2/1/11 7:24 PM @bhsprincipal 20% time for unstructured PD would be amazing #edchat kylepace 2/1/11 7:24 PM RT @bhsprincipal: We need to trust our teachers. How about giving them the 20% time that Google does to do pursue PD in whatever they want? #edchat 4thGrdTeach 2/1/11 7:24 PM and if you don't continue your learning, Oh I shudder at the thought #edchat rkiker 2/1/11 7:24 PM Just thinking this, we are brilliant RT @bhsprincipal: Give the 20% time that Google does to do pursue PD in whatever they want? #edchat flavia_matias 2/1/11 7:24 PM RT @tomwhitby: Access to Social Media provides a great source to relevant educational awareness and learning. When will education accept it? #Edchat chadsansing 2/1/11 7:24 PM #edchat @nmhs_principal i applaud that commitment; what do we call tchrs who refuse to teach all day so that they can have inquiry-PD time? hechternacht 2/1/11 7:24 PM @cybraryman1 not sure- I think the key may be to leave them in the dust! :D #edchat

B_Wagoner 2/1/11 7:24 PM RT @bhsprincipal: Need to trust teachers. How about giving them the 20% time that Google does to do pursue PD in whatever they want? #edchat WackJacq 2/1/11 7:24 PM RT @Nunavut_Teacher: How to promote lifelong learning: Allow teachers to take risks. #edchat AMEN! mtechman 2/1/11 7:24 PM @MrsDi yes! curiosity -saw some grt questions on big paper wall of "wonderings" outside 1st gr classroom. tub of pens for all to add #edchat brophycat 2/1/11 7:24 PM @bhsprincipal THAT woiuld be awesome #inspiring #edchat true Personal PD NMHS_Principal 2/1/11 7:24 PM an accountability (trust me)! #edchat @kylepace Yes! There will be

ian23505 2/1/11 7:24 PM @tra_hall Specific goals tuned to stdnt nds. Within there,tell me what you need 2 meet the goal. I will provide every support I can! #edchat pete_rodrigues 2/1/11 7:24 PM @bhsprincipal and that google 20% forces them to work outside their area of expertise #edchat ITCoachBill 2/1/11 7:24 PM Our grading systems have become irrelevant for education and the future of our children. #edchat MrsDi 2/1/11 7:24 PM Crazy, but to me "lifelong learner" must sound exhausting to an 8th grader. How to sell the concept to them? #edchat Jen_dC 2/1/11 7:24 PM #edchat in addition to making time & supportive culture, we need to model what to do w/it. Many teachers don't know what resources they have LindaReed 2/1/11 7:24 PM @tomwhitby It may be scheduled, but it's often task oriented--create this, document this.. Nothing organic and no time to refelct. #edchat tshreve 2/1/11 7:24 PM @Room5Friends PD isn't "time on task" to many who make decisions on how teacher time is allocated - or by many of the public. #edchat DelaneyKirk 2/1/11 7:24 PM @karenszymusiak I like to share results of recent studies I've read that are relevant to students. Makes good way to start a class. #edchat jdulrich76 2/1/11 7:24 PM RT @cybraryman1: "The illiterate of the 21st century will not be those who cannot read and write, but those who cannot learn, unlearn, and relearn. " #edchat

damiandonnelly 2/1/11 7:24 PM RT @MoodleMcKean: Better video game education needed, says Nesta report guardian.co.uk: http://bit.ly/dL5Gx9 #edtech #edchat #GBL #elearning #technology wmchamberlain students! #edchat 2/1/11 7:25 PM @bhsprincipal and with the

mikevigilant 2/1/11 7:25 PM @bhsprincipal Good point--some people will hate PD no matter what. I hope that once I have a few years in I don't become that way. #edchat edtechworkshop 2/1/11 7:25 PM @mbteach because it's just jumping thru hoops & is also reliant on the old-guard. doesn't recognize selfdirected learning yet. #edchat Room5Friends 2/1/11 7:25 PM @melynntwit Cool. My sister's school does this too. I want to start one at our school. :) #edchat tshreve 2/1/11 7:25 PM @NMHS_Principal @tomwhitby Great move! WE hired paraprofessionals and freed teachers from duties years ago. Teachers need time. #edchat bellelli_edu 2/1/11 7:25 PM RT @Nunavut_Teacher: Promote lifelong learning by being positive, share examples of success but don't preach. #edchat AntLak 2/1/11 7:25 PM @tomwhitby there is an unfortunate fear by some that these roads we may travel in SM will tarnish the purity of the profession #Edchat Nunavut_Teacher 2/1/11 7:25 PM We can't motivate people, nor force. They have to follow their own interests, passions. #edchat WackJacq 2/1/11 7:25 PM @bhsprincipal And the quest for the panacea for kids not caring to be insulted with cookie cutter programs! #edchat MrsDi 2/1/11 7:25 PM @mtechman that sounds like a FANTASTIC idea! Would love to do a wall of wonderings, u got me thinking! #edchat Edu_Traveler 2/1/11 7:25 PM @math2go we often forget the desire for knowledge that we had year 1..we need to reclaim it #edchat piratedjlangley 2/1/11 7:25 PM instilling lifelong learning in students requires instilling it in teachers. #edchat ksivick2/1/11 7:25 PM RT @tomwhitby: @NMHS_Principal You can't just give a free period. It is an unkown concept and it will need to be modeled and supported #Edchat

stumpteacher 2/1/11 7:25 PM @davidwees We recently started doing that under our principal's leadership. PD sessions taught be teachers on diff subjects #edchat MASCD 2/1/11 7:25 PM The Whole Child is Supported, Safe, Challenged, Healthy and Engaged. Take 4 minutes to watch this... http://bit.ly/M1uOD #MASCD #edchat marcizane 2/1/11 7:25 PM RT @rkiker: Just thinking this, we are brilliant RT @bhsprincipal: Give the 20% time that Google does to do pursue PD in whatever they want? #edchat lookforsun 2/1/11 7:25 PM @ALShealy #edchat If run well w/teacher needs/voice and system goals at the center, PLCs can be wonderful vehicles for school growth. drtimony 2/1/11 7:25 PM @MrsDi I don't know where I got it, but my common 'goodbye' is 'have fun.' I really feel that way about life. Same w/learning. #edchat tomwhitby 2/1/11 7:25 PM @NMHS_Principal You can't just give a free period. It is an unkown concept and it will need to be modeled and supported #Edchat monk51295 2/1/11 topic.. #edchat 7:25 PM interesting convo.. can't pinpoint the

debbiefuco 2/1/11 7:25 PM @erinneo Lack of confidence =new automatically invalidates the old way...Agree! How can we instill that new can enhance the old way? #edchat raysadad 2/1/11 7:25 PM Canadian http://bit.ly/h4wzvo #edchat New Post: Superman is Clearly Un-

ian23505 2/1/11 7:25 PM @bhsprincipal I agree to some extent. If you open up the wild west then what opportunity exists for collaborative learning? #edchat NMHS_Principal as well #edchat 2/1/11 7:25 PM @chadsansing We are on that

AyaAcademy 2/1/11 7:25 PM RT @Nunavut_Teacher: How to promote lifelong learning: Allow teachers to take risks. #edchat 4thGrdTeach 2/1/11 7:25 PM have other in building teachers teach what they know, more authentic than outside experts #edchat

mbteach 2/1/11 7:25 PM Most states require teachers to attain credits to keep their cert. Why isn't that working & can we use that to promote learning? #edchat alliehowell 2/1/11 7:25 PM RT @cybraryman1: "The illiterate of the 21st century will not be those who cannot read and write, but those who cannot learn, unlearn, and relearn. " #edchat ksivick2/1/11 7:25 PM #edchat ? how about a PD checklist/objectives handed out at the beginning of the yr, if you complete checklist, u can skip the in-house PD dannynic 2/1/11 7:25 PM RT @dannynic: Wow. Just wow. Google Streetview, but *inside* art museums... Amazing http://bit.ly/gKT8Io #edchat #ukedchat #iwb DelaneyKirk 2/1/11 own backyard" theory? 7:26 PM @usamimi74 "Can't be expert in your

phsprincipal 2/1/11 7:26 PM I think the school year needs to be expanded to provide teacher directed learning time #edchat NMHS_Principal 2/1/11 7:26 PM It is ABSOLUTELY NOT a free period; not enough characters for details #edchat Nunavut_Teacher 2/1/11 7:26 PM RT @stumpteacher: @davidwees Which is why we need to have choice and an unconference style to institutes and faculty PD meetings. #edchat piratedjlangley 2/1/11 7:26 PM starting lifelong learning pd with a small group of teachers & watching it branch out does work #edchat erinneo 2/1/11 7:26 PM @debbiefuco How can we instill that new can enhance the old way? Such a good question! A little at a time? Being very gentle? #edchat 4thGrdTeach 2/1/11 7:26 PM "housekeeping" to email #edchat Use staff meetings for PD, leave

MrsDi 2/1/11 7:26 PM @drtimony That's a great exit line to leave with students "have fun" - would be interesting to see how they *hear* it! #edchat ksivick2/1/11 7:26 PM then reward #edchat we need more self-paced independent PD,

blairteach 2/1/11 7:26 PM RT @bhsprincipal: We need to trust our tchrs. How about giving them the 20% time that Google does to pursue whatever PD they want? #edchat

ScottElias 2/1/11 7:26 PM It's more than just talk. If u want innovation in your building, teachers have to trust that bldg leadership supports risk-taking. #edchat mbteach 2/1/11 7:26 PM @edtechworkshop so can we use the existing structure & provide meaningful learning experiences that satisfy these requirements? #edchat wmchamberlain 2/1/11 7:26 PM RT @4thGrdTeach: have other in building teachers teach what they know, more authentic than outside experts #edchat profespringer 2/1/11 7:26 PM Are students ever involved, or do they ever participate, in your school's PD time? #edchat kylepace 2/1/11 7:26 PM @monk51295 Educators profess to support lifelong learning in students. How do we promote lifelong learning in all educators? #edchat drtimony 2/1/11 7:26 PM @mbteach well, in many cases it is 'working' in the sense that teachers are doing it. Notice little change though. #edchat rkiker 2/1/11 7:26 PM @bhsprincipal @cybraryman1 I always build tech PD that adds value to lives, not just profession, raises total capacity & culture #edchat math2go 2/1/11 7:26 PM @jen_dC - Sure, but we need to facilitate collab through existing channels. Haven't found any new time yet! ;) #edchat tkraz 2/1/11 7:26 PM @bhsprincipal and while teachers pursue their 20%, so do students? #edchat WackJacq 2/1/11 7:26 PM RT @Nunavut_Teacher: We cnt motivate ppl, nor force. They have 2 follow their own interests, passions. #edchat Yes! We speak the same lang! 4thGrdTeach 2/1/11 7:26 PM RT @Nunavut_Teacher: We can't motivate people, nor force. They have to follow their own interests, passions. #edchat mtechman 2/1/11 7:26 PM @chadsansing fasc. stuff unfolded in front of me after school today - I was just eye behind camera. Need kid-run unconf @pammoran #edchat

mtechman 2/1/11 7:26 PM @chadsansing fasc. stuff unfolded in front of me after school today - I was just eye behind camera. Need kid-run unconf @pammoran #edchat NancyW 2/1/11 7:26 PM Time to collaborate & plan meaningful learning can often come from librarian. We use some of budget to pay subs for this time. #edchat NancyW 2/1/11 7:26 PM Time to collaborate & plan meaningful learning can often come from librarian. We use some of budget to pay subs for this time. #edchat SimplySuzy 2/1/11 7:26 PM The Whole Child is Supported, Safe, Challenged, Healthy and Engaged. Take 4 minutes to watch this... http://bit.ly/M1uOD #mascd #edchat kylepace 2/1/11 7:26 PM @NMHS_Principal I have no doubt. :) Same for each dept each day or could they be at diff places all the time? #edchat AyaAcademy 2/1/11 7:26 PM RT @stumpteacher: @erinneo If you force me to sit in a session that is not relevant to me then that is not worth "learning: Make it relevant. #edchat positivelypt 2/1/11 know everything #edchat 7:26 PM @mrsdi ask them when they expect to

MoodleMcKean 2/1/11 7:27 PM Using the Technology of Today, in the Classroom Today (MIT - Report) http://bit.ly/ecLfTe #edtech #edchat #lrnchat #elearning #SM #GBL cybraryman1 2/1/11 7:27 PM As you know I have a lifelong learning addiction and always strive to learn new things & then create a page for it on my site. #edchat NMHS_Principal 2/1/11 7:27 PM @chadsansing Some really good teachers requested the time, plan was already in the works = win win #edchat bhsprincipal 2/1/11 7:27 PM RT @CoachGinsburg: Start w/collaborative goal-setting--teacher and supervisor, then trust teacher to develop plan for reaching goal. #edchat djgallagher 2/1/11 7:27 PM RT @ScottElias: It's more than just talk. If u want innovation in your building, teachers have to trust that bldg leadership supports risk-taking. #edchat mtechman 2/1/11 7:27 PM @MrsDi one little guy needed help writing "I wonder why my cat bites me when I brush her?" I added a few "wonderings" to wall #edchat

davidwees 2/1/11 7:27 PM Interested in participating in a 4-5 day long #Edcamp in July? Respond here: http://twtpoll.com/5mo79w via @wmchamberlain #edchat ksivick2/1/11 7:27 PM What is it that we (PLN) have that drives us ? ...what are our non-PLN peers missing? #edchat piratedjlangley 2/1/11 7:27 PM most teachers don't want the extra meetings - online pd and PLN's solve that #edchat ITCoachBill 2/1/11 7:27 PM Kids are born with an innate desire for new knowledge, and so are we, yet we are stuck in the delivery of the obsolete. #edchat sandyrwagner 2/1/11 7:27 PM #edchat aren't we doing our own PD here& lifelong learning-all we can do is show others the opportunity is there. positivelypt 2/1/11 7:27 PM teachers go to work #edchat @profespringer no, they have off and

iearnusa 2/1/11 7:27 PM RT @CohenD: High quality PD, real learning, collaborative, self-directed, might make the diff. between my tching career ending sooner vs. later #edchat becky7274 2/1/11 7:27 PM RT @4thGrdTeach: Districts also have to consistently recognize online PD as "real" PD and give hours for it #edchat loves84 2/1/11 7:27 PM What if too much time is spent out of the classroom on PD during instructional time. My support staff is out of the building a lot. #edchat Jen_dC 2/1/11 7:27 PM @ITCoachBill are students in need of more authentic motivation for learning. saw this vid awhile ago http://youtu.be/BOe9nSJXEDc #edchat stumpteacher 2/1/11 7:27 PM My principal gives us innovative time to develop something new or learn something new. #edchat rrodgers 2/1/11 7:27 PM @mbteach Because they focus that required PD on strategies aimed at getting higher test scores, not on engaging learners? #edchat rjwassink 2/1/11 7:27 PM By default we are all lifelong learners. The goal, apparently, is for people to concentrate their learning where we want? #edchat

tra_hall 2/1/11 7:27 PM @NMHS_Principal 20% google or Fedex time is great but how do you structure it where teachers don't use it as another conference? #edchat graingered 2/1/11 7:27 PM Just passed 5000 tweets... thats 700 000 characters of the best PD I have had as a professional teacher #edchat MrsDi 2/1/11 7:27 PM @positivelypt LOL - I'm with middle school, they *already* know everything! #edchat 4thGrdTeach 2/1/11 7:27 PM Districts also have to consistently recognize online PD as "real" PD and give hours for it #edchat CoachGinsburg 2/1/11 7:27 PM @bhsprincipal Start w/collaborative goal-setting--teacher and supervisor, then trust teacher to develop plan for reaching goal. #edchat bhsprincipal 2/1/11 7:27 PM We tried the Google PD idea last spring. Here's the feedback from staff http://bit.ly/clWFeo #edchat Nunavut_Teacher 2/1/11 7:27 PM and choice? Excellent. Love it! #edchat @stumpteacher Unconference

mbteach 2/1/11 7:27 PM @DrTimony exactly. So teachers are already doing it, but what's being offered maybe is the problem? #edchat lookforsun 2/1/11 7:27 PM @ian23505 @bhsprincipal #edchat I like my school learning to be in conjunction with system-wide goals - it gives us a team goal - meaningful usamimi74 2/1/11 7:27 PM So where do we start? edcamps, chats Twitter, or maybe something like #30Goals Challenge http://bit.ly/gefh1F #edchat AyaAcademy 2/1/11 7:27 PM RT @usamimi74: I think too often schools don't recognize "in house" talent. Most PD could be done by fellow teacher for 1/2 price of spkrs #edchat StJoesTechTeach 2/1/11 7:27 PM RT @kylepace: RT @bhsprincipal: If we as educators do not model life-long learning, we can't expect to create students who will be. #edchat CohenD 2/1/11 7:27 PM High quality PD, real learning, collaborative, self-directed, might make the diff. between my tching career ending sooner vs. later #edchat AntLak 2/1/11 7:27 PM @tomwhitby the reality is that we are already tarnishing our profession with our need to cling to tradition and the past #Edchat

4thGrdTeach 2/1/11 though? #edchat

7:27 PM

How do you take PD beyond Twitter

chadsansing 2/1/11 7:27 PM #edchat @NMHS_Principal what do you mean? i'm wondering re: diff between admin giving that time & tchrs demanding it, perceptions wmchamberlain 2/1/11 community too #edchat 7:27 PM @4thGrdTeach builds Me too @ksivick: How's I get to

TheHelpGroup 2/1/11 7:28 PM be a PD junkie? ...... you inspired me ;) #edchat

justwonderinY 2/1/11 7:28 PM @positivelypt @profespringer Our principal brought in students to talk about collaboration during a staff PD. Kids taught us a lot #edchat marcizane 2/1/11 7:28 PM @tomwhitby @nmhs_principal I wonder if a rubric of some sort (and reflection) for this type of PD would hlp w/ accountability #edchat alhelmy 2/1/11 7:28 PM RT @bhsprincipal: We tried the Google PD idea last spring. Here's the feedback from staff http://bit.ly/clWFeo #edchat ksivick2/1/11 7:28 PM inspired me ;) #edchat How's I get to be a PD junkie? ...... you

drtimony 2/1/11 7:28 PM @mrsdi I used to say to a friend-whatever you do, don't learn anything!--she always hounded me with what she learned. #edchat kylepace 2/1/11 7:28 PM @stumpteacher How did your principal frame that when it first began? #edchat Mamacita 2/1/11 7:28 PM Teachers who beg off learning tech & other new methods b/c they're "too old" ARE too old. Get out. #edchat lookforsun 2/1/11 7:28 PM @erinneo @debbiefuco #edchat Teaching new through teacher's areas of competency can be powerful - Super reading teacher follows titletwit MrsDi 2/1/11 7:28 PM RT @ksivick: What is it that we (PLN) have that drives us ? ...what are our non-PLN peers missing? #edchat TheHelpGroup 2/1/11 7:28 PM RT @cybraryman1: As U know ive a lifelong learning addiction & always strive 2 learn new things & then create pg 4 it on my site. #edchat

fiteach 2/1/11 7:28 PM topic tonight? Thanks.

Sorry, I'm really late, but what is the #edchat

WackJacq 2/1/11 7:28 PM Teachers can longer be in an adversarial position. We need to mentor, guide, and encourage. Hard to do that when you are coercive. #edchat lisamireles 2/1/11 7:28 PM @brophycat #edchat we are trying to change our schedule to do this but have several resistant teachers!!!!! SLP_123 2/1/11 7:28 PM RT @bhsprincipal: We need to trust our teachers. How about giving them the 20% time that Google does to do pursue PD in whatever they want? #edchat profespringer 2/1/11 7:28 PM I think many tech PD should first revolve around hobbies and interest outside of school. Hook people in nontraditional PD way #edchat erinneo 2/1/11 7:28 PM @phsprincipal One school in our district began year round schooling this summer. Jury's still out. #edchat usamimi74 2/1/11 7:28 PM root of problem. kills confidence of those who would RT @DelaneyKirk: @usamimi74 "Cant b expert in your own backyard" theory? #edchat ian23505 2/1/11 7:28 PM @lookforsun And I think there is a lot of freedom that comes with that continuity and structure. #edchat gdahlby 2/1/11 7:28 PM In a neghboring HS teachers (most) have formal teaching time 54% of the day. They certainly meet w/ peers and kids during other 46% #edchat blairteach 2/1/11 7:28 PM @4thGrdTeach Using the #edcamp or #TeachMeet model would help; both formats could be used for a variety of topics. #edchat kylepace 2/1/11 7:28 PM RT @usamimi74: So where do we start? edcamps, chats Twitter, or maybe something like #30Goals Challenge http://bit.ly/gefh1F #edchat phsprincipal 2/1/11 7:28 PM I think like minded schools need to connect virtually to discuss ideas and have common teacher learning time/teams #edchat math2go 2/1/11 7:28 PM @Edu_Traveler It's other folks that rejuvenate me: we talk about what we are learning. I do that by choice after all these years! #edchat

tomwhitby 2/1/11 7:28 PM @AntLak We are interacting an exchanging ideas right now on Social Media. Do you feel unpure professionally? #Edchat ateachingheart 2/1/11 7:28 PM #edchat Please do not forget that PD or PLC does not replace individual planning and reflection time. MrsDi 2/1/11 7:28 PM RT @mbteach: @DrTimony exactly. So teachers are already doing it, but what's being offered maybe is the problem? #edchat edtechworkshop 2/1/11 7:29 PM @mbteach no, I think that's how it should go....but must include webinars and should include presenting at conferences! #edchat graingered 2/1/11 7:29 PM @MrsDi @ksivick Nothing, its not a have/have not issue. Folks learn on their own terms, not to be judged on a continuum #edchat ksivick2/1/11 7:29 PM Maybe we're here for the positive feedback and inclusion, how can we model that, is it threatening to be so inclusive at work? #edchat mbteach 2/1/11 7:29 PM How do we convince teachers that reflection & extended learning is not just 'more work?' #edchat erinneo 2/1/11 7:29 PM @WackJacq Maybe a symptom of administrator tactics. We treat others as we are treated? #edchat raysadad 2/1/11 7:29 PM Wow! RT @alhelmy: RT @bhsprincipal: We tried the Google PD idea last spring. Here's the feedback from staff http://bit.ly/clWFeo #edchat monk51295 2/1/11 7:29 PM the life-long aspect #edchat choice empowers, pushing squelches

LindaReed 2/1/11 7:29 PM @Nunavut_Teacher Agree! Informal, inexpensive, time to talk is the richest PD environment. Bells and whistles not needed. #edchat drtimony 2/1/11 7:29 PM @mbteach PD is poor b/c it's industrialized and, in order to qualify for credit, has to meet broad requirements. Not cost effective. #edchat tra_hall 2/1/11 me nervous LOL #edchat 7:29 PM @NHS_Principal But Free Time makes @fiteach How to foster lifelong

lookforsun 2/1/11 7:29 PM learning in teachers. #edchat

MoodleMcKean 2/1/11 7:29 PM Development - Some Pros and Cons of iPads for ELT | Delta Publishing - English Language Teaching http://bit.ly/gWdheC #edchat #ipad #eltchat chriszuccaro 2/1/11 7:29 PM The best PD we had in my district was teacher designed, led, and taught. #edchat jlearn20 2/1/11 7:29 PM luv it! RT @bhsprincipal Need to trust our teachers; give them the 20% time Google does to do pursue PD in whatever they want #edchat #jed21 chadsansing 2/1/11 7:29 PM #edchat RT @nowviskie: Why we do this @scholarslab: How 3M Gave Everyone Days Off and Created an Innovation Dynamo: http://bit.ly/hv1jyL ... NMHS_Principal 2/1/11 7:29 PM Prof Growth period options: PD, interdisciplinary lesson development, benchmark assessment creation, tech training, etc. #edchat englishcomp 2/1/11 7:29 PM RT @CohenD: High quality PD, real learning, collaborative, self-directed, might make the diff. between my tching career ending sooner vs. later #edchat WackJacq 2/1/11 7:29 PM RT @justwonderinY: @positivelypt @profespringer R principal brought in students 2 talk abt collaboration during a staff PD. WOW! #edchat mtechman 2/1/11 7:29 PM @ksivick good question. Connection? Can't believe that they don't have interest, not possible #edchat techfacil 2/1/11 7:29 PM Google 20% time concept. RT @stumpteacher: My principal gives us innovative time to develop something new or learn something new. #edchat iearnusa 2/1/11 7:29 PM Globally! @phsprincipal: like minded schools need to connect virtually to discuss ideas & have common teacher learning time/teams #edchat lookforsun 2/1/11 7:29 PM @ksivick #edchat Many of my peers tutor after school leaving little time for pd - I don't know if this is ethical. tra_hall 2/1/11 7:29 PM @djgallagher @mariannedavis49 @blairteach I give teachers 45 day planning and we early release on Wed for full staff PD. #edchat mbteach 2/1/11 7:29 PM @edtechworkshop so maybe an 'independent study' with a reflection piece that ends in credit? Maybe that's too much work :) #edchat

4thGrdTeach 2/1/11 7:29 PM @wmchamberlain yes and teachers feel validated in their knowledge! #edchat MrsDi 2/1/11 7:29 PM @mtechman This is an idea that is going back to my staff immediately (well, when the snow stops!) #edchat stumpteacher 2/1/11 7:29 PM @kylepace Just tossed it out there. "if you want innovative time give me an idea of what you want to do" #edchat Mamacita 2/1/11 7:30 PM RT @cybraryman1: @Mamacita Anyone who stops learning is old, whether at twenty or eighty #edchat << Absolutely & 100% true. Room5Friends 2/1/11 7:30 PM RT @cybraryman1: @Mamacita Anyone who stops learning is old, whether at twenty or eighty #edchat stumpteacher 2/1/11 7:30 PM @kylepace During institute days we have sessions and teachers are allowed to talk to her about "special projects" they want to do #edchat becky7274 2/1/11 7:30 PM @L_Hilt We also need to change attitudes. Some teachers get stuck in daily planning and don't value / see themselves as learners. #edchat mikevigilant 2/1/11 7:30 PM @alhelmy Wow...that is some powerful feedback and what a great (and easy!) idea. Thanks for sharing, will pass along. :) #edchat Adriander12 2/1/11 7:30 PM I just commented-excellent example of the power of high expectations @angelamaier #edchat #cpchat Nurturing Genius http://bit.ly/hGYt0k davidwees 2/1/11 7:30 PM @bhsprincipal Can't steal the #unconference model, it's under a CC license! :) #edchat Edu_Traveler 2/1/11 7:30 PM @math2go Which is great. Too many educators isolate themselves and get stuck-not interested in or don't know how to grow #edchat profespringer 2/1/11 7:30 PM RT @bhsprincipal: We tried the Google PD idea last spring. Here's the feedback from staff http://bit.ly/clWFeo #edchat @RMHS_AP wmchamberlain 2/1/11 7:30 PM @4thGrdTeach we are professionals (even if some don't act like it...) We need to embrace our expertise :) #edchat

mritzius 2/1/11 7:30 PM @blairteach schools should build that time in. Arguably more important for moving students forward than structured teaching time. #edchat Mamacita 2/1/11 7:30 PM I don't accept age as an excuse not to do something, unless we're talking reproduction. Those who teach must never cease to learn. #edchat ITCoachBill 2/1/11 7:30 PM @Jen_dC I think more in need of teachers that are changing with the times and willing to be fellow learners as well. #edchat drtimony 2/1/11 7:30 PM we need to stop calling it PD if it's not Professional and doesn't result in Development. #edchat rjwassink 2/1/11 7:30 PM I don't know many professionals who don't have PLNs- many just know them by other names. Our definition (of PLN) is fairly specific #edchat justwonderinY 2/1/11 7:30 PM @marcizane @tomwhitby @nmhs_principal I don't know. Sometimes we spend more time w our "accountability measures" than with learning #edchat dmantz7 2/1/11 7:30 PM Great point> RT @monk51295: choice empowers, pushing squelches the life-long aspect #edchat cybraryman1 2/1/11 7:30 PM @Mamacita Anyone who stops learning is old, whether at twenty or eighty #edchat bhsprincipal 2/1/11 7:30 PM We have also stolen the unconference model this year and gotten good feedback http://bit.ly/bXKBCF #edchat CoachGinsburg 2/1/11 7:30 PM @WackJacq Good pt about adversarial. Keep it positive. Too often we commiserate or complain rather than collaborate. #edchat stumpteacher 2/1/11 7:30 PM Social Media is the most powerful form of PD on the planet. If you doubt it...well you're not using it right. #edchat DanielaBolzmann 2/1/11 7:30 PM Social Media Should Be Taught in the Classroom | Kyle Lacy http://j.mp/gsjNFZ #edchat #edtach chadsansing 2/1/11 7:30 PM well-played RT @NMHS_Principal: @chadsansing Some really good teachers requested the time, plan was already in the works = win win #edchat kylepace 2/1/11 7:30 PM @stumpteacher Does he provide that time during the day? Just trying to get a picture of what that could look like. Share examples! #edchat

FrauSusi 2/1/11 7:30 PM RT @cybraryman1: "The illiterate of the 21st century will not be those who cannot read and write, but those who cannot learn, unlearn, and relearn. " #edchat phsprincipal 2/1/11 7:30 PM We are more powerful connected to each other...more connections for pd #edchat WackJacq 2/1/11 7:31 PM We need to gut the whole building down to the studs and rebuild school. Halfway measures will not work as they r antithetical. #edchat limbert65 2/1/11 7:31 PM @lookforsun coaching can have the same effect of eating up time, energy. #edchat lookforsun 2/1/11 7:31 PM @Mamacita #edchat I'm in favor of systems of idea management - people rewarded for ideas, ideas taken seriously from all fronts. graingered 2/1/11 7:31 PM @Mamacita THat's ridiculous. Theres more than one way to learn, and teach, and all the best aren't "new" #edchat tomwhitby 2/1/11 7:31 PM We're watching SM causing democratic revolution in the middle east, yet we question its power to affect change for learning in EDU #Edchat 4thGrdTeach 2/1/11 7:31 PM #edchat

ksivick2/1/11 7:31 PM RT @mbteach: How do we convince teachers that reflection & extended learning is not just 'more work?' #edchat-> examples of success 4thGrdTeach 2/1/11 7:31 PM edcamp to be in wisconsin #edchat @blairteach So true, would love for an @djgallagher I will be leading

NMHS_Principal 2/1/11 7:31 PM PD for all many of the days #edchat

mrbrandonbailey 2/1/11 7:31 PM I was able to build in one pd period per week into my teacher schedule. Teachers appreciate growth opportunity. #edchat cfanch 2/1/11 7:31 PM devil's advocate: all of our teachers are after school for at least 1.5 hrs with students, so when do they get together for PLN? #edchat MissShuganah 2/1/11 7:31 PM way to think about learning. #edchat @mtechman That's a fantastic

kylepace 2/1/11 7:31 PM @bhsprincipal I've heard the same re: schools that are embracing the unconference model for PD. #edchat iearnusa 2/1/11 7:31 PM Never met a Peace Corps volunteer, #Fulbright alum or any intl #exchange teacher that wasn't a lifelong learner. More #exchanges? #edchat justwonderinY 2/1/11 7:31 PM @positivelypt @profespringer Accountability measure should be in student growth. Anything we do should benefit kids. #edchat profespringer 2/1/11 7:31 PM RT @bhsprincipal: We have also stolen the unconference model this year and gotten good feedback http://bit.ly/bXKBCF #edchat @RMHS_AP blairteach 2/1/11 7:31 PM W/too much accountability, the endeavor becomes a square-filler instead of meaningful learning. #edchat mmarotta 2/1/11 7:31 PM #Edchat: Join the Movement http://animoto.com/play/SFg0Mhyukyckyi1mAuM8QQ monk51295 2/1/11 7:31 PM if we allow kids/teachers free space to be, which is the ultimate to life-longness, it's going to be messy at first #edchat well worth it piratedjlangley 2/1/11 7:31 PM Starting a Teacher Share group in my district - we found that it needs to be a tiered share system based on comfort level #edchat usamimi74 2/1/11 7:31 PM RT @Mamacita: I dont accept age as excuse not to do somethin. Those who teach must never cease to learn. #edchat marciarpowell 2/1/11 7:31 PM @B_Wagoner @bhsprincipal Do you have self-motivated staff who would use the time? #edchat #signmeup Adriander12 2/1/11 7:31 PM RT @cybraryman1: "The illiterate of the 21st century will not be those who cannot read and write, but those who cannot learn, unlearn, and relearn. " #edchat eherreid 2/1/11 7:31 PM Student suspended 4 comments made abt a teacher on Facebook - http://on.mash.to/gWsMnu - Was it right? U make the call #edchat #educators bhsprincipal 2/1/11 7:31 PM gone to the CC session! #edchat @davidwees I knew I should have

djgallagher 2/1/11 7:31 PM @NMHS_Principal Make sure that you have facilitator that YOU trust to lead them #edchat

Room5Friends 2/1/11 7:31 PM RT @mbteach: How do we convince teachers that reflection & extended learning is not just 'more work?' #edchat spedgeek 2/1/11 7:31 PM page: http://bit.ly/dUYHlT #edchat wmchamberlain 2/1/11 impressive! #edchat RT @cybraryman1: My Team Building @bhsprincipal 97% is very

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jacatlett 2/1/11 7:31 PM @profespringer #edchat I agree. I've seen that work. I'm old enough to remember email as a new, then FB when kids left home for others, TheHomeworkDog 2/1/11 7:31 PM because I value learning. #edchat My learning goes beyond 8-4

stumpteacher 2/1/11 7:31 PM @kylepace For example a co-worker and I got to work on creating standards based grading during "innovative time" at a PD day #edchat flavia_matias 2/1/11 7:31 PM Another way of promoting lifelong learning is by fully exploring texts and articles. #Edchat SafinaN 2/1/11 7:31 PM @chriszuccaro I like that idea - PD like Twitter - problem is how to motivate? #edchat L_Hilt 2/1/11 7:31 PM http://bit.ly/gJhM14 #edchat Love the Google 20%, or, try a Fed Ex day

CohenD 2/1/11 7:31 PM RT @drtimony: we need to stop calling it PD if it's not Professional and doesn't result in Development. #edchat directmaestro 2/1/11 7:31 PM How would you spend $100M to save education? http://bit.ly/e8xfVf #fixedu #edchat lookforsun 2/1/11 7:31 PM @LindaReed @Nunavut_Teacher #edchat So many ways that teachers learn - talk for some, reading for others, Twitter for others - many paths. astoeckel 2/1/11 7:31 PM RT @CohenD: High quality PD, real learning, collaborative, self-directed, might make the diff. between my tching career ending sooner vs. later #edchat usamimi74 2/1/11 7:32 PM wonder why so many admin/schools don't promote round table discussions as valid/valuable form of PD #edchat stumpteacher 2/1/11 7:32 PM @kylepace There has also been times where she has gotten teachers subs to work on innovative ideas. #edchat

CohenD 2/1/11 like "edcamp"?

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#edchat - is "unconference" anything

kylepace 2/1/11 7:32 PM How do you know someone is a lifelong learner? Is there a characteristic that really stands out? #edchat lookforsun 2/1/11 7:32 PM @usamimi74 @Mamacita #edchat Age should never be considered a factor - I learn quicker and better than ever after 24 years of teaching. Akevy613 2/1/11 7:32 PM @phsprincipal great idea. we are hoping to connect with a school in Florida that does the same Hebrew Lang program as we do #edchat christal_watts 2/1/11 7:32 PM RT @drtimony: we need to stop calling it PD if it's not Professional and doesn't result in Development. #edchat ppoulin 2/1/11 7:32 PM RT @drtimony: we need to stop calling it PD if it's not Professional and doesn't result in Development. #edchat Havalah 2/1/11 7:32 PM @DrTimony Yes! Since my DESE audit I've noticed even more so that dist. PD doesn't address anyone's PD goals. It's not P or D. #edchat 4thGrdTeach 2/1/11 7:32 PM One PD option we did: Tech Tuesdays where people can come and learn new tech stuff once a month #edchat bhsprincipal 2/1/11 7:32 PM @marciarpowell Aren't most educators self-motivated? #edchat Our teachers certainly are. 2footgiraffe 2/1/11 7:32 PM RT @blairteach: W/too much accountability, the endeavor becomes a square-filler instead of meaningful learning. #edchat kylepace 2/1/11 7:32 PM Same here. RT @TheHomeworkDog: My learning goes beyond 8-4 because I value learning. #edchat alhelmy 2/1/11 7:32 PM RT @bhsprincipal: We have also stolen the unconference model this year and gotten good feedback http://bit.ly/bXKBCF #edchat tra_hall 2/1/11 7:32 PM @becky7274 @l_Hilt do you think its they don't see themselves as learners or the superstars just don't think they are that great? #edchat mikevigilant 2/1/11 7:32 PM @ksivick I love PD! And I don't care if I'm the only one at my school that does! Sometimes it's great to reflect on great ideas. #edchat

Nunavut_Teacher 2/1/11 7:32 PM RT @tomwhitby: We're watching SM causing democratic revolution in the middle east, yet we question its power to affect change for learning in EDU #Edchat slaggyc 2/1/11 7:32 PM When I 1st began teaching, we could go to any PD we wanted. Now it has to be provided and chosen by the district. #edchat NMHS_Principal 2/1/11 7:33 PM @kylepace Ummmmmmm.........those that go to unconfernces, #educon, etc. #edchat ericjuli2/1/11 7:33 PM @mbteach Everything feels like more work if it isn't relevant-Reflection means I intend to change practices, not true for everyone #edchat amsgoodwin 2/1/11 7:33 PM RT @deb_norton: Math Live http://www.learnalberta.ca/content/me5l/html/math5.html This looks really good! #edchat #elemchat @myen ExecCareerCoach 2/1/11 7:33 PM RT @justintarte: strengths based leadership RT @ExecCareerCoach: If we value people 4 what they R individually good at, there R no weaknesses #cpchat #edchat L_Hilt 2/1/11 7:33 PM @becky7274 @tra_hall I think it's more they are overwhelmed w/tasks that don't really impact lrng. Admin need 2 help reduce those #edchat mikevigilant 2/1/11 7:33 PM @mrbrandonbailey That's great--I would kill to have PD time built into my week! What a great way to reflect as you go. #edchat drtimony 2/1/11 7:33 PM as far as credit goes, our schools need to do the footwork to get all activities sanctioned. It can be cost effective for them. #edchat cybraryman1 2/1/11 7:33 PM @4thGrdTeach That is why I like the Smackdown http://cybraryman.com/smackdown.html #edchat positivelypt 2/1/11 7:33 PM in my "life long learning" mission -- I need 2 know where schools are hiring primary teachers next yr #edchat #parttimeteacher justwonderinY 2/1/11 7:33 PM "teaching the teachers". :o) #edchat @positivelypt They loved

lookforsun 2/1/11 7:33 PM @4thGrdTeach #edchat Teachers gravitate toward flexible, one-time learning events - easier to fit into schedule - a good start.

tomwhitby 2/1/11 7:33 PM Educators must recognize & accept the fact that technology and Social Media tools are the main avenue to lifelong Learning. #Edchat WackJacq 2/1/11 7:33 PM RT @fiteach: In order to make PD meaningful the topic needs to come from the teachers not centrally. #edchat usamimi74 2/1/11 7:33 PM AmenRT @kylepace: Same here. RT @TheHomeworkDog: My learning goes beyond 8-4 because I value learning. #edchat iearnusa 2/1/11 7:33 PM RT @tomwhitby: We're watching SM causing democratic revolution in the middle east, yet we question its power to affect change for learning in EDU #Edchat becky7274 2/1/11 7:33 PM @tra_hall Sadly, I think some see it as "just more work" - I know people think I'm crazy for "doing Twitter all the time" #edchat wmchamberlain 2/1/11 7:33 PM RT @kylepace: How do you know someone is a lifelong learner? Is there a characteristic that really stands out? #edchat blairteach 2/1/11 7:33 PM @4thGrdTeach So organize one! Resource to help w/planning are available online. #edchat NSWDWMom 2/1/11 7:33 PM RT @tomwhitby: We're watching SM causing democratic revolution in the middle east, yet we question its power to affect change for learning in EDU #Edchat fiteach 2/1/11 7:33 PM In order to make PD meaningful the topic needs to come from the teachers not centrally. Too often teachers needs are ignored. #edchat flavia_matias 2/1/11 7:33 PM I mean, whenever I read sth and click on its links I usually discover things which are far better than the main content. #Edchat Jen_dC 2/1/11 7:33 PM @math2go very true, all goes back to modeling--model how you collab w/the time you have #edchat cfanch 2/1/11 7:33 PM RT @tomwhitby: Were watching SM causing demo revolution in middle east, yet we question its power to affect change 4 learning in EDU #edchat cfanch 2/1/11 7:33 PM RT @tomwhitby: Were watching SM causing demo revolution in middle east, yet we question its power to affect change 4 learning in EDU #edchat

2footgiraffe 2/1/11 7:33 PM Next pd for school Ima talk to the principal about having a faculty pd smackdown. #edchat debbiefuco 2/1/11 7:33 PM RT @MrsDi: RT @ksivick: What is it that we (PLN) have that drives us ? ...what are our non-PLN peers missing? #edchat erinneo 2/1/11 7:33 PM 7:34 PM @cfanch Hire more teachers! #edchat @cybraryman1 Thank you for the link

4thGrdTeach 2/1/11 Jerry #edchat

ian23505 2/1/11 7:34 PM RT @wmchamberlain: RT @kylepace: How do you know someone is a lifelong learner? Is there a characteristic that really stands out? #edchat MisterEason 2/1/11 7:34 PM @kylepace I think lifelong learners tend to be at the forefront of most things. That would be a tangible characteristic #edchat 2footgiraffe 2/1/11 7:34 PM If every teacher in the room is sharing it is lots more meaningful. - think the same thing is true for stu? #edchat fiteach 2/1/11 7:34 PM Teachers are often told no or docked pay for attending conferences of their own choice. It stifles the "want" of furthering PD. #edchat ThirdGradeTerri 2/1/11 7:34 PM Me too. Hope others join. RT @mikevigilant: @ksivick I love PD! & I don't care if I'm the only 1 at my school that does! #edchat stumpteacher 2/1/11 7:34 PM @NMHS_Principal @kylepace I think being strong in the force is a key ingredient as well... http://bit.ly/ho9yZp :) #edchat gdahlby 2/1/11 7:34 PM Seems many districts that have multiple buildings forget the power of inter-building connections for PD and projects. #edchat NMHS_Principal 2/1/11 7:34 PM @djgallagher Yes, during the day. Each teacher would have a prep, lunch, and PGP (professional growth period) #edchat aleaness 2/1/11 7:34 PM of us. #edchat When do we not learn? 4thGrdTeach 2/1/11 7:34 PM @kylepace we are always learning, all @lookforsun great point! #edchat

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cfanch 2/1/11 7:34 PM @erinneo TX is having budget crisis and we'll be increasing students/decreasing tchrs in district. (B nice tho) #edchat flavia_matias 2/1/11 7:34 PM RT @tomwhitby: Educators must recognize & accept the fact that technology and Social Media tools are the main avenue to lifelong Learning. #Edchat usamimi74 2/1/11 7:34 PM RT @kylepace: How do you know someone is a lifelong learner? Is there a characteristic that really stands out? #edchat rjwassink 2/1/11 7:34 PM Inquiry-based authentic learning (for all levels of learners) and being willing to step outside the box for a few minutes... #edchat drtimony 2/1/11 7:34 PM @justwonderinY @positivelypt Why aren't there students in our buildings while we're doing PD? #edchat bhsprincipal 2/1/11 7:34 PM RT @tomwhitby: We're watching SM cause a revolution in the middle east, yet we question its power to affect change in EDU #Edchat chadsansing 2/1/11 7:34 PM #edchat how do you build capacity for tchr use of innovation/PD time that is different from planning? we can't conflate the two #notthesame blairteach 2/1/11 7:34 PM @tra-hall For a newbie, you're doing a great job of keeping up & engaging. Congrats! #edchat Edu_Traveler 2/1/11 7:34 PM RT @graingered @Mamacita Theres more than one way to learn, teach,+all the best arent "new">>it's about the combination of old #edchat ksivick2/1/11 7:34 PM start with finding one lesson a teacher does well, praise, then ask them to share, then offer extensions-> great in-house PD #edchat 4thGrdTeach 2/1/11 who would help? #edchat 7:34 PM @blairteach Oh I know, I should but

BHS_Doyle 2/1/11 7:34 PM @mtechman Oh, the pablum--I decided it was too mean. But really, the stuff that pours out of #edchat MissShuganah 2/1/11 7:34 PM @DrTimony I am still trying to figure out what kind of PD I have, not being a professional and all. #edchat How relevant are these terms?

SNewco 2/1/11 7:34 PM RT @tomwhitby: Educators must recognize & accept the fact that technology and Social Media tools are the main avenue to lifelong Learning. #Edchat erinneo 2/1/11 7:34 PM energy.. and lots of coffee. #edchat @kylepace Enthusiasm, positivity,

studentjourneys 2/1/11 7:34 PM Need a lesson plan? How about taking your kids to #Greece! http://bit.ly/fMY24S Open up their minds and get them actively learning #edchat mbcampbell360 2/1/11 7:34 PM @tomwhitby Really? So therefore there was not lifelong learning prior to social media? Unless you have a broad definition of tech #edchat jacatlett 2/1/11 7:34 PM #edchat I think professional freedoms ignite passions. When I came to ACPS in 89, I had freedoms I nvr had b4. wanted to learn, much ws new tkraz 2/1/11 7:34 PM @kylepace They are on Twitter 24/7 #edchat

mritzius 2/1/11 7:35 PM @mbteach must be worthwhile, school structure needs to value it. Why get pd if everything is largely scripted ? #edchat MisterEason 2/1/11 7:35 PM RT @cybraryman1: "The illiterate of the 21st century will not be those who cannot read and write, but those who cannot learn, unlearn, and relearn. " #edchat slaggyc 2/1/11 7:35 PM Exactly! RT @WackJacq RT @fiteach: In order to make PD meaningful the topic needs to come from the teachers not centrally. #edchat Akevy613 2/1/11 7:35 PM I am late R we talk about life long learners or PD IMO there is a difference lifelong learning is an attitude/philosophy of sorts #edchat lookforsun 2/1/11 7:35 PM @mikevigilant @mrbrandonbailey #edchat We have an average of two hours a week built in pd time. vbpickett 2/1/11 7:35 PM Pay off my kids loans RT @directmaestro: How would you spend $100M to save education? http://bit.ly/e8xfVf #fixedu #edchat kylepace 2/1/11 7:35 PM @NMHS_Principal True, but I know some that attended #edcampKC were pretty skeptical. #edchat onealchris 2/1/11 7:35 PM @gdahlby And I'm really surprised that after all these years, teachers regularly visiting other classrooms is still pretty uncommon #edchat

graingered 2/1/11 7:35 PM @mritzius Differently, but not necessarily better, more productively, more responsibly or collaboratively #edchat iearnusa 2/1/11 7:35 PM RT @gdahlby: 21st cent. thinking is that no building has to go it alone, regardless of physical sites in the district. #edchat justwonderinY 2/1/11 7:35 PM @kylepace Lifelong learners seem to ask a lot of ?s, listen a lot, take risks, seek info. There's something inquisitive abt them. #edchat bhsprincipal 2/1/11 7:35 PM @DrTimony Great question - I think we will see a lot more of teachers and students learning together when we go 1:1 in the fall. #edchat Jen_dC 2/1/11 7:35 PM @ksivick excellent idea, & who doesn't want to be recognized for what they are doing well? #edchat MrsDi 2/1/11 7:35 PM RT @drtimony: @justwonderinY @positivelypt Why aren't there students in our buildings while we're doing PD? #edchat Philip_Cummings progress. 2/1/11 7:35 PM Joining #edchat already in

4thGrdTeach 2/1/11 7:35 PM Since when was it bad to compliment teachers on things they are good at?Compliment and ask them to share #edchat mbcampbell360 2/1/11 7:35 PM Learning is meaningless without application. Reflection upon your practice is key to becoming a better teacher #edchat ksivick2/1/11 7:35 PM Sometimes asking a teacher to share and provide PD ignites an interest in learning more #edchat Blog4Edu 2/1/11 7:35 PM via @teachingwthsoul Be a Ray of Light when someone cant beThe 30 Goals http://bit.ly/ha19Wb #ntchat #edchat drtimony 2/1/11 professional. #edchat 7:35 PM @MissShuganah I see you as a

gdahlby 2/1/11 7:35 PM 21st cent. thinking is that no building has to go it alone, regardless of physical sites in the district. #edchat

amandacdykes 2/1/11 7:35 PM Know any of those losers? RT @NMHS_Principal: @kylepace Ummmmmmm.........those that go to unconfernces, #educon, etc. #edchat Mamacita 2/1/11 7:35 PM someone uses it as an excuse. #edchat @lookforsun Age is a factor only when

blairteach 2/1/11 7:35 PM So true. RT @L_Hilt: I think it's more they are overwhelmed w/tasks that don't really impact lrng. Admin need 2 help reduce those #edchat CohenD 2/1/11 7:35 PM @tomwhitby - "the main avenue" for all of us from now on? Or for many, most of the time? #edchat tra_hall 2/1/11 7:35 PM @l_hilt I think you are right...my struggle as a principal is how to decrease the administrivia and give them more time.......Hard! #edchat pete_rodrigues 2/1/11 7:36 PM RT @Akevy613: IMO there is a difference lifelong learning is an attitude/philosophy of sorts #edchat profespringer 2/1/11 7:36 PM @justwonderinY @positivelypt @jacatlett Does inviting students to PD treat them as fellow learners? advantages? Disadvantages? #edchat stumpteacher 2/1/11 7:36 PM That is what we do! RT @4thGrdTeach: There has to be teacher input on PD, so offer to teach something yourself! #edchat CohenD 2/1/11 7:36 PM @chadsansing I think it's key to establish culture that learning is sacrosanct, time is inviolable. Must be scheduled, honored. #edchat CohenD 2/1/11 7:36 PM @chadsansing I think it's key to establish culture that learning is sacrosanct, time is inviolable. Must be scheduled, honored. #edchat Philip_Cummings 2/1/11 7:36 PM #edchat During interviews, admins need to ask candidates: What have you been reading? What have you learned recently? CTLEvents 2/1/11 7:36 PM IL Lab article about MIT's "Life Long Kindergarten" http://bit.ly/fu2AYb #edchat drtimony 2/1/11 7:36 PM @bhsprincipal Why is the concept of teachers learning a secret? Send the kids home! Secure the perimeter! Dive! Dive! #edchat

Jen_dC 2/1/11 7:36 PM @DrTimony can we involve the students in our PD, especially have them share their tech knowlege? #edchat phsprincipal 2/1/11 7:36 PM I know one of the main questions I will be asking teaching candidates this Spring is "how are you connected" #edchat Nunavut_Teacher 2/1/11 7:36 PM sad RT @slaggyc: When I 1st began teaching, we could go to any PD we wanted. Now it has to be provided and chosen by the district. #edchat lookforsun 2/1/11 7:36 PM @fiteach #edchat Best ed leaders always invite staff members to attend pd events - give chance to many, this encourages lifelong learning. MissShuganah 2/1/11 7:36 PM troublemaker? Thank you. #edchat @DrTimony Professional

4thGrdTeach 2/1/11 7:36 PM There has to be teacher input on PD, so offer to teach something yourself! #edchat MrsDi 2/1/11 7:36 PM So, a LLL is always striving to learn more, about anything, and shares that info with those around them positively #edchat Havalah 2/1/11 7:36 PM @DrTimony And in MA at least give us proper documentation OF said activities. #edchat erinneo 2/1/11 7:36 PM @cfanch My district is the same. My solution is to not assign homework anymore. #edchat ksivick2/1/11 7:36 PM faculty meetings should start w/ 2 or 3 teachers sharing what works for them, only positive, set the tone for respecting others #edchat mtechman 2/1/11 7:36 PM @MissShuganah thanks, Miss S! Curiosity,questioning - forces for the good! (work against academic passivity, curse of most HSs) #edchat chriszuccaro 2/1/11 7:36 PM My friend and I recently started #ocsdteach where educators in our district can share Tweets relevant to our growth as educators.#edchat ateachingheart 2/1/11 7:36 PM RT @Nunavut_Teacher #edchat So many ways that teachers learn - talk for some, reading for others, Twitter for others - many paths. chadsansing 2/1/11 7:36 PM #edchat admin, let's start coding innovation days as professional leave, not personal leave, just as we code testwriting/data-analysis days

jacatlett 2/1/11 7:36 PM @Philip_Cummings me too! I think we're talking about PD and how, why, who, etc. #edchat krcook_edu 2/1/11 learning. #edchat 7:36 PM Unlearning is often as important as

math2go 2/1/11 7:37 PM RT @Jen_dC: @math2go very true, all goes back to modeling--model how you collab w/the time you have #edchat MrsDi 2/1/11 7:37 PM I feel I am a LLL - moving forward I should model this more for my students, share my curiosity more w/them & staff... #edchat TheHomeworkDog 2/1/11 7:37 PM My next learning goal will be to figure out the best way to follow #edchat - You guys are fast! I'm used to tweeting from my phone. :) gdahlby 2/1/11 7:37 PM RT @onealchris teachers regularly visiting other classrooms is still pretty uncommon #edchat Are the invitations there in a sharing way? chadsansing 2/1/11 7:37 PM @CohenD how do you get teachers to enjoy that innovation/learning time and give up relief of getting more planning/grading done? #edchat mbcampbell360 2/1/11 7:37 PM With the way PD is run right now, would students even want to be there? Do you want to be there? #edchat krcook_edu 2/1/11 7:37 PM @kylepace A lifelong learner is someone who is anxious and open to learning new things, always! They are open-minded. #edchat mtechman 2/1/11 7:37 PM RT @jacatlett: #edchat I think professional freedoms ignite passions. When I came to ACPS in 89, I had freedoms I nvr had b4. wanted to learn, much ws new stumpteacher 2/1/11 7:37 PM @bhsprincipal @Akevy613 Need to model it for them and then hope they get on board. If not time to move on. #edchat MissShuganah 2/1/11 7:37 PM @mtechman I was just thinking about that earlier today. If teachers don't have and model curiosity, they should quit. #edchat davidwees 2/1/11 7:37 PM I've been trying to help the teacher candidates & substitutes I've been meeting recently sign up for Twitter. Not much luck. :( #edchat

alhelmy 2/1/11 7:37 PM @kylepace Wish I would have gone, I can't wait to try it out next year, I know @kevcreutz really enjoyed it #edchat mritzius 2/1/11 7:37 PM RT @chadsansing: #edchat how do you build capacity for tchr use of innovation/PD time that is different from planning? we can't conflate the two #notthesame monk51295 2/1/11 7:37 PM you learn today/this week #edchat bhsprincipal 2/1/11 7:37 PM great YouTube skit! LOL #edchat great question for any of us - what did @DrTimony I like that. Sounds like a

jacatlett 2/1/11 7:37 PM #edchat lifelong learners are never satisfied, always seeking more, wanting to be better, willing to experiment and reflect! lookforsun 2/1/11 7:37 PM @slaggyc @WackJacq @fiteach #edchat Teacher initiatives are positive and motivating, system-wide vision is important too. erinneo 2/1/11 7:37 PM feel safe enough to do so.. #edchat edtechworkshop 2/1/11 tweet #edchat not #educon ;) @2footgiraffe Sure, if all the students oops, meant to tag my last

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ian23505 2/1/11 7:37 PM RT @drtimony: @bhsprincipal Why is the concept of teachers learning a secret? Send the kids home! Secure the perimeter! Dive! Dive! #edchat thart74 2/1/11 7:37 PM as important as learning. #edchat tra_hall 2/1/11 7:37 PM RT @krcook_edu: Unlearning is often #edchat

2footgiraffe 2/1/11 7:37 PM @kylepace @NMHS_Principal i think it is funny to watch those doing a 20 min preso for the 1st time squirm cuz of time limit. #edchat WackJacq 2/1/11 7:37 PM Another problem w/ creating life-lnglearnrs students have bn conditioned by sys 2 compartmentalize skills. no skoolno learning #edchat MsDittmar 2/1/11 7:37 PM #edchat @kylepace Life long learners aren't scared to try something new. They aren't afraid of failure. tra_hall 2/1/11 7:37 PM @l_hilt @blairteach Very difficult to farm out the other crap... especially with #txebudget crisis #edchat

bhsprincipal 2/1/11 7:37 PM @Akevy613 Good question! What do we do with educators (admin and classroom teachers) who are not lifelong learners? #edchat mbcampbell360 2/1/11 7:37 PM What is unlearning? Could you have learned the new knowledge without first gaining the knowledge you are 'unlearning'? #edchat MsBuell 2/1/11 7:38 PM . @mbteach but it is more work, when you teach 140 Ss and have a husband and 4 kids...thank God for twitter, you all help me so much #edchat Ideas_Factory 2/1/11 7:38 PM @kylepace Characteristic of a lifelong learner? Still studying at university at 92..... #edchat sandyrwagner 2/1/11 7:38 PM if you don't think students want to be involved in PD you didn't go to #educon ! #edchat cybraryman1 2/1/11 7:38 PM RT @blairteach: @kylepace Lifelong learners are insatiably curious & often early adopters. #edchat ian23505 2/1/11 7:38 PM @davidwees What is that? I can't believe that there are not more undergrads out there connecting with this netowork? #edchat lookforsun 2/1/11 7:38 PM @profespringer @justwonderinY @positivelypt @jacatlett #edchat learning w/students powerful - I learned w/4th graders - author-in-residence. WackJacq 2/1/11 7:38 PM @lookforsun: @slaggyc @WackJacq @fiteach #edchat Isystem-wide vision is important 2 - I agree, but I wnt 2 destroy the system & srt ovr. EclipsingX 2/1/11 7:38 PM RT @cybraryman1: "Always walk through life as if you have something new to learn and you will. " #edchat MsDittmar 2/1/11 7:38 PM @phsprincipal On my resume I've started listing all of my profile address in SM to show how I'm connected #edchat phsprincipal 2/1/11 7:38 PM Can we do school learning activities with teachers, parents, staff, students all at an unconference type event? #edchat CTLEvents 2/1/11 7:38 PM RT @dannynic: Wow. Just wow. Google Streetview, but *inside* art museums... Amazing http://bit.ly/gKT8Io #edchat #ukedchat #iwb

Jen_dC 2/1/11 7:38 PM @fiteach sounds like the admin are in serious need of PD if that is the reaction to teachers who WANT to continue improving #edchat milenagarg 2/1/11 me a funny look. #edchat 7:38 PM When I mention twitter, people give

erinneo 2/1/11 7:38 PM @slaggyc @WackJacq @fiteach topic needs to come from the teachers not centrally: how do you know what you don't know? #edchat drtimony 2/1/11 7:38 PM @Jen_dC why not just have an entire day of kids and teachers in the same room? remove the veil. #edchat kylepace 2/1/11 7:38 PM RT @MsDittmar: #edchat Life long learners aren't scared to try something new. They aren't afraid of failure. #edchat 2footgiraffe 2/1/11 7:38 PM RT @phsprincipal: I know one of the main questions I will be asking teaching candidates this Spring is "how are you connected" #edchat blairteach 2/1/11 7:38 PM @kylepace Lifelong learners are insatiably curious & often early adopters. #edchat positivelypt 2/1/11 7:39 PM conference look like? #edchat what would your dream PD day or

gdahlby 2/1/11 7:39 PM @onealchris If tchrs invite others into a class w/ purpose "hey watch me & help me get better," it woulb be a gr8t culture/legacy #edchat lpapplegirl 2/1/11 7:39 PM My first #edchat. Wow! you guys are fast! Looking to set up PLN on Twitter with my campus . WackJacq 2/1/11 7:39 PM @erinneo Exactly! --> how do you know what you don't know? <-- This is what everyone should remember and we'd all be better off! #edchat alhelmy 2/1/11 7:39 PM RT @phsprincipal: I know one of the main questions I will be asking teaching candidates this Spring is "how are you connected" #edchat blairteach 2/1/11 7:39 PM @4thGrdTeach Put out the call on Twitter. Someone might step forward. (Although several of us have done it alone.) #edchat

justintarte 2/1/11 7:39 PM RT @jacatlett: #edchat lifelong learners are never satisfied, always seeking more, wanting to be better, willing to experiment and reflect! GWoodJCG 2/1/11 7:39 PM to lost snow days #edchat #sosad thart74 2/1/11 PLN. #edchat 7:39 PM Much of the NE has cancelled PD due @phsprincipal or who is part of your

lookforsun 2/1/11 7:39 PM @chadsansing @CohenD #edchat Knowing teachers well and fostering an attitude of a "little for today and a little for tomorrow." kylepace 2/1/11 7:39 PM @phsprincipal I think that's a great idea. Expand the unconference opportunity to parents and community as well. #edchat MisterEason 2/1/11 7:39 PM increase test scores?" #edchat Current attitude seems to be "Will PD

monk51295 2/1/11 7:39 PM RT @phsprincipal: Can we do school learning activities with teachers, parents, staff, students all at an unconference type event? #edchat Philip_Cummings 2/1/11 7:39 PM #edchat Thanks, @kylepace leaders must model LLL! Talk about it, model it, expect it. fiteach 2/1/11 7:39 PM @lookforsun #edchat We get money, but it comes from R teachers union (from dues) not our system & that is only enough 4 1 local every 3 yrs. mritzius 2/1/11 7:39 PM @chadsansing why not structure pd as part of the work day? Isp style classroom, pd happens all day, everyday #edchat davidwees 2/1/11 7:39 PM @ian23505 I've only met a couple. I offered a free workshop out at UBC and was turned down. "Our students are too busy." #edchat #BCed Adriander12 2/1/11 7:39 PM RT @cybraryman1: RT @blairteach: @kylepace Lifelong learners are insatiably curious & often early adopters. #edchat onealchris 2/1/11 7:39 PM @gdahlby I suppose the whole cycle is clunky. I think teachers visiting teachers is such a goldmine of p.d. for visitor and visited. #edchat

MrsDi 2/1/11 7:39 PM As a LLL I should be listening to those around me and helping to build on the curious nature even if not always part of lesson #edchat chadsansing 2/1/11 7:39 PM @onealchris we have standing invitations to visit one another's rooms, but also typical aversion to subs, letting go; scheduling key #edchat CohenD 2/1/11 7:39 PM #edchat @ksivick - could also include celebrations of constructive failures. That's learning too! (h/t @plugusin ) missalyssa74 2/1/11 7:39 PM as important as learning. #edchat RT @krcook_edu: Unlearning is often

justintarte 2/1/11 7:39 PM RT @phsprincipal: I know one of the main questions I will be asking teaching candidates this Spring is "how are you connected" #edchat profespringer 2/1/11 7:39 PM Do any schools have weekend "learning adventures" to bring teachers, parents, community together to learn about something 2gether? #edchat Nunavut_Teacher 2/1/11 7:39 PM Would love to have a fed-ex day for PD. That promotes lifelong learning. #edchat math2go 2/1/11 7:39 PM RT @cybraryman1: RT @blairteach: @kylepace Lifelong learners are insatiably curious & often early adopters. #edchat phsprincipal 2/1/11 7:40 PM Good idea RT @MsDittmar: @phsprincipal On my resume I've started listing all of my profile address in SM to show how I'm connected #edchat positivelypt 2/1/11 7:40 PM of the PLN ? #edchat #thingsilove does anyone else use #tumblr as part

ateachingheart 2/1/11 7:40 PM Loving the discussion on #edchat. I have noticed so many big changes in what classifies as "high quality PD" (veteran 25 year teacher) ateachingheart 2/1/11 7:40 PM Loving the discussion on #edchat. I have noticed so many big changes in what classifies as "high quality PD" (veteran 25 year teacher) slaggyc 2/1/11 7:40 PM Most "PD" provided by my dist is for coaches to coach teachers in DI. Feel sad for newer teachers that nevr got to do real tching. #edchat

jacatlett 2/1/11 7:40 PM @profespringer #edchat I would HOPE so! We should be willing to learn w/ our students anytime, anyplace becky7274 2/1/11 7:40 PM people your digital footprint! #edchat @MsDittmar That's a great idea! Show

fiteach 2/1/11 7:40 PM @erinneo @slaggyc @WackJacq #edchat Overall division goals chosen centrally but schools should pick their needs based on those goals. chadsansing 2/1/11 7:40 PM @mritzius #edchat yes; you can build a schl so tchrs & stdnts learn side by side, all day long; planning w/ stdnts makes planning into PD geraldaungst 2/1/11 7:40 PM @mbteach That's how my son learned to play guitar from scrach: YouTube. #meaningful #edchat Philip_Cummings 2/1/11 7:40 PM #edchat Tweets coming so fast I can't even read them to engage someone in convo. Ahhh! 2footgiraffe 2/1/11 7:40 PM @mritzius they are starting lunch learning for us at our school. twice a month i think. #edchat pete_rodrigues 2/1/11 7:40 PM promote lifelong learning? ask teachers: what do you want to be when you grow up? #edchat ksivick2/1/11 7:40 PM what about rogue PD, connect w/ local teachers and set up informal workshops, invite a PD challenged teacher., #edchat lookforsun 2/1/11 7:40 PM @ian23505 @davidwees #edchat Undergrads are incredibly busy w/school work and many are socially driven at that stage. ian23505 2/1/11 7:40 PM @davidwees I talked to a kid out in Iowa who said the ed. department was doing nothing with SM/PLN. Unreal. #edchat PodPirate 2/1/11 7:40 PM @phsprincipal of course we can, all it takes is an educator or administrator with the vision to set it up. #edchat davidwees 2/1/11 7:40 PM @ian23505 I do know of at least one professor who is building use of SM into his #edm310 (Undergraduate teaching) course. #edchat stumpteacher 2/1/11 7:40 PM I still question if lifelong learning is something that you can teach or bring out in a person through authentic experiences #edchat

MisterEason 2/1/11 7:40 PM RT @kylepace: @phsprincipal I think that's a great idea. Expand the unconference opportunity to parents and community as well. #edchat cybraryman1 2/1/11 7:40 PM RT @kylepace: @phsprincipal I think thats a great idea. Expand the unconference opportunity to parents and community as well. #edchat flavia_matias 2/1/11 one. #edchat 7:40 PM @kylepace Interest is an important

mbteach 2/1/11 7:40 PM BF is teaching himself how to play a Radiohead song by watching a YouTube tutorial. He's not a tchr, but learning! #meaningful #edchat ritasimsan 2/1/11 7:40 PM RT @kylepace: RT @wmchamberlain: How many of you model learning un-schooly things to your students? I showed them my ukulele, they enjoyed it. #edchat tomwhitby 2/1/11 7:40 PM @jerridkruse I didn't say that b/c I don't believe that .Content has moved from caves, to scrolls, to print, to media. now digital #Edchat TheHomeworkDog 2/1/11 learner - Curiosity. #edchat 7:40 PM Characteristic of a life long

Philip_Cummings 2/1/11 7:41 PM Amen! RT @cybraryman1: The Ed Camp/Teach Meet formats are great for learners http://bit.ly/atUkDb #edchat ksivick2/1/11 successes #edchat 7:41 PM lifelong learners identify failures and seek

edtechworkshop 2/1/11 7:41 PM What about having every faculty meeting starting with an "encienda" presentation? #edchat justwonderinY 2/1/11 7:41 PM @geraldaungst @mbteach As I life long learner I apparently haven't tapped YouTube enough. #edchat lookforsun 2/1/11 7:41 PM @positivelypt #edchat Dream PD Day - Great conference centered on my question of the moment: Creating 21stC learning opps for young students getsweetie 2/1/11 7:41 PM RT @cybraryman1: The Ed Camp/Teach Meet formats are great for learners http://cybraryman.com/edcamp.html #edchat

DelaneyKirk 2/1/11 7:41 PM @stumpteacher Maybe just point out to students that they ARE learning all the time...might be a new video game but it's learning #edchat cybraryman1 2/1/11 7:41 PM The Ed Camp/Teach Meet formats are great for learners http://cybraryman.com/edcamp.html #edchat profespringer 2/1/11 7:41 PM Saturday afternoon community learning adventures on, 4 example, how to insulate your home better. Model power of community learning #edchat djgallagher 2/1/11 7:41 PM How many schools have educational programs for parents and community members? #edchat Books4Kids_revs 2/1/11 7:41 PM Easy Readers &Chapter bks on Edison http://bit.ly/f0Up4G #kidlit #review #edchat #homeschool Adriander12 2/1/11 7:41 PM RT @phsprincipal: Good idea RT @MsDittmar: @phsprincipal On my resume I've started listing all of my profile address in SM to show how I'm connected #edchat MisterEason 2/1/11 7:41 PM I learn a great deal from my students while teaching, so I'm sure I'd learn a great deal if I provided a PD session to teachers #edchat missalyssa74 2/1/11 7:41 PM RT @mbteach: How do we convince teachers that reflection & extended learning is not just 'more work?' #edchat davidwees 2/1/11 7:41 PM @lookforsun @ian23505 "Forgive them for they know not what they (can) do...with social media." #edchat WackJacq 2/1/11 7:41 PM PD in itself is a coercive way of teaching. It assumes that the teacher hasn't the time of know to improve their own pedagogy. #edchat debbiefuco 2/1/11 7:41 PM RT @kylepace: How do you know someone is a lifelong learner? Is there a characteristic that really stands out? #edchat CohenD 2/1/11 7:41 PM @chadsansing - I wish I knew! But I come back to @DanielPink - autonomy, mastery, purpose! For me, seeking mastery would motivate! #edchat Adriander12 2/1/11 7:41 PM Want #PD where we can access live twitter feed for all participants as we learn and discuss. #edchat #ocdsb bhsprincipal 2/1/11 7:41 PM @jerridkruse I didn't think integrating new tools into our curriculum and allowing would be a bad thing. #edchat

techfacil 2/1/11 7:41 PM @marcizane @justwonderinY At some point, admins have to be free to cut people lose if they aren't learning & professional, yes? #edchat blairteach 2/1/11 7:41 PM @4thGrdTeach Find a venue, set a date, seek some sponsors, & put out the word. Poof! You have #edcamp. #edchat justintarte 2/1/11 7:41 PM RT @gdahlby: @onealchris If tchrs invite others into a class w/ purpose "hey watch me & help me get better," it woulb be a gr8t culture/legacy #edchat tra_hall 2/1/11 7:41 PM @l_hilt there is a great PD for that http://www.the-breakthrough-coach.com/ It teaches your secretary to do the administrivia!! #edchat cfanch 2/1/11 7:41 PM School district "specialists" and superintendents are the ones who need to take the leap of faith & try new ways for tchrs to learn #edchat ian23505 2/1/11 7:41 PM @lookforsun True. But the ones who engage are the ones I am interested in interviewing and perhaps hiring. #edchat krcook_edu 2/1/11 7:41 PM @kylepace Lifelong learners look for opportunities to gain new knowledge. They don't sit back and wait for it to come to them. #edchat cybraryman1 2/1/11 7:42 PM @MisterEason Yes, you can learn a lot from your students. At #edcampCitrus I learned a lot from the students who were there. #edchat MrsDi 2/1/11 7:42 PM Could I do a PD style day w/students? Let them choose topics? I know, like "centers" but w/a twist! #edchat edtechworkshop 2/1/11 7:42 PM @mbteach In my experience it doesn't have to do with age. some younger tchrs think they already know it all #edchat missalyssa74 2/1/11 7:42 PM RT @kylepace: RT @math2go: The best teachers and admins find the time to collaborate, given or not... just saying...#edchat chriszuccaro 2/1/11 7:42 PM RT @missalyssa74: RT @4thGrdTeach: Use staff meetings for PD, leave "housekeeping" to email #edchat becky7274 2/1/11 7:42 PM What are we modeling for kids if teachers run out the door cheering at the end of the day? #edchat

MissShuganah 2/1/11 7:42 PM @tomwhitby @jerridkruse I miss the cave days myself. Those drawings were really cool. #edchat tra_hall 2/1/11 7:42 PM @l_hilt @mbteach How about hiring secretaries for a group of teachers.... imagine the increase in productivity #edchat ateachingheart 2/1/11 7:42 PM @monk51295 agree. learn more from my students than anyone- need reflection time #edchat christal_t 2/1/11 7:42 PM RT @tomwhitby Educators must recognize & accept the fact that tech. and Social Media tools are a main avenue to lifelong Learning. #Edchat ICBEU_ISAT 2/1/11 7:42 PM RT @usamimi74: based on communication n exchange RT @ICBEU_ISAT: RT @flavia_matias: Learning is a dynamic process, its not something static. #edchat tshreve 2/1/11 7:42 PM @mbteach @missalyssa74 If it is perceived as "more work" then you haven't made a connection with that teacher. #edchat directmaestro 2/1/11 7:42 PM @vbpickett if your kids went to @Str8erLine you would have saved thousands... #fixedu #edchat ontheshelf4kids 2/1/11 7:42 PM RT @bhsprincipal: We need to trust our teachers. How about giving them the 20% time that Google does to do pursue PD in whatever they want? #edchat dweksler 2/1/11 7:42 PM RT @tappedinorg: Big prob w/PD is sustaining it. Tapped In was created to do that in 1997! It's still here doing its thing. #SOTPD #edchat ksivick2/1/11 7:42 PM RT @blairteach: @4thGrdTeach Find a venue, set a date, seek some sponsors, & put out the word. Poof! You have #edcamp. #edchat lpapplegirl 2/1/11 sharing ideas/activities. 7:42 PM #edchat Dream PD. Positive people

Jen_dC 2/1/11 7:42 PM @cfanch and they are probably the ones most afraid of failure b/c they are under the most pressure & enviro that least accepts it #edchat gdahlby 2/1/11 7:42 PM @onealchris Or conversation is "I've got a new technique that seems successful. Want to come over a watch" #edchat Then it becomes easier

lookforsun 2/1/11 7:42 PM @gdahlby @onealchris #edchat Honestly, watching each other isn't always the best venue for growth . . . ian23505 2/1/11 7:42 PM @erinneo With you there. This would be a natural, useful extension of their social drive! #edchat analomba 2/1/11 7:42 PM RT @analomba: Great article on bullying: Edweek - Studies take aim at playground gossip http://bit.ly/es2Qap #edchat Philip_Cummings 2/1/11 7:42 PM #edchat I just chased @cybraryman1's tweet all the way down the page to RT it. :0) fiteach 2/1/11 #edchat 7:42 PM @Nunavut_Teacher What is a fed-ex day?

MisterEason 2/1/11 7:42 PM Does anybody have a hash-tag for their school? Seems like this would provide a great deal of PD. #edchat thart74 2/1/11 7:42 PM We have instructional coaches in my district. Embedded PD on demand for teachers. #edchat TheHomeworkDog 2/1/11 7:42 PM Characteristic of a life long learner - ready to say I don't know. I want to find out. #edchat ksivick2/1/11 failures #edchat 7:42 PM @CohenD good point about constructive

missalyssa74 2/1/11 7:42 PM RT @4thGrdTeach: Use staff meetings for PD, leave "housekeeping" to email #edchat mbcampbell360 2/1/11 7:42 PM RT @monk51295: my pd comes from learning with students all day, like i'm researching how they learn, it's exhilarating #edchat stumpteacher 2/1/11 7:42 PM @DelaneyKirk I agree. Each kid has a passion, good teachers find it. Not all teachers are passionate about teaching. Sad but true. #edchat mbteach 2/1/11 7:42 PM Most of the young tchrs in my building WANT to learn. By the time they reach yr 10 will they? Kind of like our stdnts & school #edchat tra_hall 2/1/11 7:42 PM @l_hilt It places you as the executive and in theory your only job is to develop people and have a balanced life! #edchat

MsBuell 2/1/11 7:42 PM RT @profespringer: Saturday afternoon community learning adventures on, 4 example, how to insulate your home better. Model power of community learning #edchat monk51295 2/1/11 7:42 PM my pd comes from learning with students all day, like i'm researching how they learn, it's exhilarating #edchat MisterEason 2/1/11 7:43 PM @djgallagher It takes a village to raise a child. Why not involve the village in the school system and PD? Great idea! #edchat TheHomeworkDog 2/1/11 7:43 PM @cybraryman1 My 3rd graders have shown me three short cuts on my computer this week and it's only Tuesday. :) mbteach 2/1/11 7:43 PM @tshreve exactly, so we need to make connections and make it seem relevant or it will be considered "more work" #edchat chadsansing 2/1/11 7:43 PM re: 3L culture RT @CohenD: ...I come back to @DanielPink - autonomy, mastery, purpose! For me, seeking mastery would motivate! #edchat Philip_Cummings 2/1/11 7:43 PM Post #educon #edchat is on fire! We have to create a culture where we constantly talk about what we, the profs, are learning. positivelypt 2/1/11 7:43 PM RT @mbteach: @monk51295 and if that kind of informal research was considered valid PD, more people would buy in to lifelong learning #edchat tshreve 2/1/11 7:43 PM RT @ian23505: Best way to ensure a school full of lifelong learners: hire lifelong learners. Simple right? #edchat stumpteacher 2/1/11 #edchat 7:43 PM @ian23505 Sounds easy enough...:)

profespringer 2/1/11 7:43 PM I think bringing parents and community members in PD sessions could help mutual understanding of learning issues #edchat kylepace 2/1/11 7:43 PM How important is making connections/fostering relationships to spread the idea of lifelong learning? #edchat ian23505 2/1/11 7:43 PM Best way to ensure a school full of lifelong learners: hire lifelong learners. Simple right? #edchat

CohenD 2/1/11 7:43 PM @profespringer - not weekend, but my soph. English classes will lead a 1-night "teach-in" based on Elie Wiesel's "Night" - #edchat lysmekah 2/1/11 7:43 PM RT @4thGrdTeach: Use staff meetings for PD, leave "housekeeping" to email #edchat bhsprincipal 2/1/11 7:43 PM @jerridkruse Putting more tools in the hands of quality teachers will cause quite a change in my opinion. #edchat mbteach 2/1/11 7:43 PM @monk51295 and if that kind of informal research was considered valid PD, more people would buy in to lifelong learning #edchat drtimony 2/1/11 7:43 PM @mbteach specific action has to be taken to teach individuals at their level. motivation & orientation to learning is developmental #edchat MsBuell 2/1/11 7:43 PM . @profespringer As a parent, teacher and school committee member (in kids' district) I love idea of "community learning adventures" #edchat jacatlett 2/1/11 7:43 PM @milenagarg Ime, too... but there are folks that have modeled bad use of it or they have tried to ram it down folks throats. #edchat jeffmason 2/1/11 7:43 PM Guerrilla pd #edchat

WackJacq 2/1/11 7:43 PM RT @becky7274: What are we modeling for kids if teachers run out the door cheering at the end of the day? #edchat davidwees 2/1/11 7:43 PM @erinneo @lookforsun @ian23505 My big inspiration during one undergrad class was "everyone just wants to belong." #edchat chadsansing 2/1/11 7:43 PM @onealchris we also, perhaps, underuse tech 4 distance observations during one another's classes; any policy on that anywhere? #edchat geraldaungst 2/1/11 7:43 PM @justwonderinY Learning can happen almost anywhere. It's about the mindset. #edchat DelaneyKirk 2/1/11 7:44 PM @stumpteacher Is the system set up so that it demotivates many teachers? #edchat mmarotta 2/1/11 7:44 PM Planning and creating Oral History Projects using Google Sites. Can't publish off the school domain to share, sigh #edchat

wootang01 2/1/11 7:44 PM (Random) NYTimes article on HK's 3+3+4 transition: Hong Kong's Universities Decide Bigger Is Better http://nyti.ms/gPXn6t #westhk #edchat alhelmy 2/1/11 7:44 PM RT @TheHomeworkDog: @cybraryman1 My 3rd graders have shown me three short cuts on my computer this week and it's only Tuesday. :) MsBuell 2/1/11 7:44 PM Lol, my #droid loaded #edchat incorrectly and now everyone has someone's pic next to their tweet MisterEason 2/1/11 7:44 PM RT @monk51295: my pd comes from learning with students all day, like i'm researching how they learn, it's exhilarating #edchat mbteach 2/1/11 7:44 PM @edtechworkshop wow, really? That's too bad. IMHO the best teachers never think they know it all #edchat positivelypt 2/1/11 7:44 PM RT @drtimony: in 10 minutes on lunch, I can chat or tweet and get/give more PD than a full planned day. And people want efficiency... #edchat tra_hall 2/1/11 7:44 PM @l_hilt Pancoast in the Break Through Coach trains your sec to never let that happen...and your job is to do what she tells you #edchat edtechworkshop 2/1/11 7:44 PM @technolibrary I think that would be great & would do a lot to model/teach/foster learning community! #edchat ian23505 ;) #edchat 2/1/11 7:44 PM @stumpteacher You looking for a job

Philip_Cummings 2/1/11 7:44 PM @pete_rodrigues @geraldaungst No doubt. Already getting a headache. #edchat cybraryman1 2/1/11 be a great way to learn. 7:44 PM @MrsDi I can see that would definitely

drtimony 2/1/11 7:44 PM in 10 minutes on lunch, I can chat or tweet and get/give more PD than a full planned day. And people want efficiency... #edchat techfacil 2/1/11 7:44 PM @marcizane How do you know if a student is learning? Don't we know this, if we are observing and noticing? Same for admin-teacher. #edchat

tktchr 2/1/11 7:44 PM #edchat. Gotta tell you. If being a lifelong learner were a requirement for teaching, half our staff would get fired alhelmy 2/1/11 7:44 PM RT @ian23505: Best way to ensure a school full of lifelong learners: hire lifelong learners. Simple right? #edchat alhelmy 2/1/11 7:44 PM RT @ian23505: Best way to ensure a school full of lifelong learners: hire lifelong learners. Simple right? #edchat profespringer 2/1/11 7:44 PM @CohenD That's awesome! I should consider something like this for Spanish conversational skills #edchat lookforsun 2/1/11 7:44 PM @edtechworkshop @mbteach #edchat I thought I knew it all as a new teacher, but I still loved to learn - started w/so many big ideas. ontheshelf4kids 2/1/11 7:44 PM @bhsprincipal @kylepace oh, what I would do with 20% time to pursue PD - thank you for posting this! #edchat lysmekah 2/1/11 7:44 PM RT @usamimi74: I think too often schools don't recognize "in house" talent. Most PD could be done by fellow teacher for 1/2 price of spkrs #edchat Adriander12 2/1/11 7:44 PM @WackJacq @becky7274 Or encourage students not to return for the last few days of school after graduation? #edchat ian23505 2/1/11 7:44 PM have the time to connect here? #edchat @davidwees Yet they don't want or

math2go 2/1/11 7:44 PM RT @ateachingheart: @monk51295 agree. learn more from my students than anyone- need reflection time #edchat < and teachers! davidwees 2/1/11 7:44 PM @antoniabarkley Maybe we should set up a deliberate mentoring program for teacher candidates on Twitter? #ntchat #edchat mbcampbell360 2/1/11 7:44 PM @bhsprincipal The tchrs need to know how to use the tools effectively. They need pedagogical basing otherwise we r monkeys w hammers #edchat scitechyEDU 2/1/11 7:44 PM RT @cybraryman1: The Ed Camp/Teach Meet formats are great for learners http://cybraryman.com/edcamp.html #edchat

Horizons93 2/1/11 7:45 PM RT @bhsprincipal: RT @tomwhitby: We're watching SM cause a revolution in the middle east, yet we question its power to affect change in EDU #Edchat debbiefuco 2/1/11 7:45 PM RT @jacatlett: #edchat lifelong learners are never satisfied, always seeking more, wanting to be better, willing to experiment and reflect! mbteach 2/1/11 7:45 PM @DrTimony kind of like, say, how we're expected to teach students? Teachers learn diff too. Funny how we forget... #edchat ksivick2/1/11 7:45 PM my new admin does a walk through twice a day ---> made me up my game, at first I was annoyed, now thankful #edchat brianbaron13 2/1/11 teach-in work? #edchat 7:45 PM @CohenD @profespringer how's the

monk51295 2/1/11 7:45 PM @mbteach isn't it funny that in public school we don't consider authentic learning valid #edchat jacatlett 2/1/11 7:45 PM @thart74 we do, too. ..many are still not reflecting with us. mindset is diff due to former folks in bldg who did stuff 4 them #edchat pete_rodrigues 2/1/11 7:45 PM to say it? what proves it? #edchat @ian23505 yeah - is it enough

MisterEason 2/1/11 7:45 PM @mbteach What is it about the system that causes tchrs to loose their passion once they become expert teachers? #edchat kennedyjacque 2/1/11 conversation. #edchat 7:45 PM Modeling and sharing starts the

debbiefuco 2/1/11 7:45 PM RT @MsDittmar: #edchat @kylepace Life long learners aren't scared to try something new. They aren't afraid of failure. drtimony 2/1/11 7:45 PM Goes back to Malcolm Knowles. Changed adult ed. Never used. @chadsansing: @CohenD autonomy, mastery, purpose #edchat techielit 2/1/11 7:45 PM @CohenD @profespringer Great idea! Wish I had thought of something like this when I taught Night last fall. #edchat mariannedavis49 2/1/11 7:45 PM @davidwees mentoring program for college students excellent idea! #edchat

profespringer 2/1/11 7:45 PM @MsBuell How could we sell "community learning adventures" to a town? #edchat edtechworkshop 2/1/11 7:45 PM @mbteach I agree, but would say the best professionals in any profession are always open to learning! #edchat justintarte 2/1/11 7:45 PM everyday during lunch @JPPrezz and I have our own 25 minute "Power Lunch" PD session...why? - we want to be better educators...#edchat bhsprincipal 2/1/11 7:45 PM @jerridkruse I agree. It is a point that I try to make often. All the tech in the world will not transform a school by itself. #edchat MrsDi 2/1/11 7:45 PM @cybraryman1 Then have the kids turn around and present it to staff - teach the teacher style #edchat blairteach 2/1/11 7:45 PM @bcdtech Relationships must undergird everything in education. Agree relationships are KEY. #edchat ian23505 #edchat 2/1/11 7:45 PM @stumpteacher I'm looking for a Jedi.

gdahlby 2/1/11 7:45 PM Why don't we have 240 day teacher contracts? #edchat Wouldn't it make managing time to collaborate and develop curr more manageable? stumpteacher 2/1/11 7:45 PM @PodPirate But how many teachers do not provide authentic learning experiences for their kids? #edchat cybraryman1 2/1/11 7:45 PM @TheHomeworkDog My grandchildren are always teaching me new things. You can teach an old dog like me new tricks! WackJacq 2/1/11 7:45 PM Stop the practice of giving the best teachers easiest to teach students. We need our most talented teachers w/ fragilest learners #edchat Wkingbg 2/1/11 7:45 PM RT @Wkingbg: Portable Teacher: Teaching vs. Assigning http://ow.ly/1s0wxP #edchat #edadmin nomorebystander 2/1/11 7:45 PM RT @kylepace: RT @blairteach: Barrier: It is what we know already that often prevents us from LEARNING. Claude Bernard #edchat ian23505 2/1/11 7:45 PM someone is a lifelong learner? #edchat @pete_rodrigues Whether or not

chriszuccaro 2/1/11 7:45 PM Got to go give my daughter a bath... nice thing is I can catch up on my PD later! #edchat davidwees 2/1/11 7:45 PM @erinneo @lookforsun @ian23505 Once SM becomes ubiquitous, everyone will jump in. They will want to belong to our group. #edchat Mrskmpeters 2/1/11 7:45 PM @kylepace If u don't have connections w ppl, then how else will u expect them to take u seriously when sharing/presenting? #edchat mbteach 2/1/11 7:46 PM teachers! #authenticlearning #edchat @monk51295 for our students or our

onealchris 2/1/11 7:46 PM @Edu_Traveler @gdahlby I don't know anything about Japanese Lesson study - off to search now. Any site recs for more info? #edchat slaggyc 2/1/11 7:46 PM R trained monthly in analyzing data & must meet weekly to go over data & create tests. That's our PD. Sad. Many PI dist this way. #edchat debbiefuco 2/1/11 7:46 PM RT @milenagarg: When I mention twitter, people give me a funny look. #edchat ~ Always! How do we change this? bhsprincipal 2/1/11 7:46 PM @jerridkruse I know that is a rhetorical question and we both know the answer. #edchat mblatt 2/1/11 7:46 PM RT @bhsprincipal: Professional Development is learning and students and staff should have opportunities for this every day. #edchat tra_hall 2/1/11 7:46 PM @thart74 @blairteach @l_hilt why not hire a secretary for every 6-10 teachers? would do that if you were in Sales I was a sls mgr #edchat ksivick2/1/11 7:46 PM in-house mentoring doesn't seem to work, maybe we need to connect teacher mentors outside of home schools #edchat stumpteacher 2/1/11 7:46 PM @Mrskmpeters @DelaneyKirk I feel bad for you...Thank god you have all of us on twitter for support! :) #edchat WackJacq 2/1/11 7:46 PM @kylepace I think making connections w my students ios the most critical piece really. Without that trust and mutual adm-tough. #edchat mariannedavis49 2/1/11 7:46 PM college community to include them #edchat We need to reach out to the

ateachingheart 2/1/11 7:46 PM Experience /reflection=PD too! some of my oldest teacher tricks still work for some kids and I don't want to "unlearn" them. #edchat ritasimsan 2/1/11 7:46 PM How about peer coaching? Choose partner teacher/s and a project to learn together or ask another teacher to help U develop an idea #edchat ian23505 2/1/11 7:46 PM @pete_rodrigues I think that a few things stand as evidence. First, excitement. You can read that all over a candidate. #edchat bbeck19 2/1/11 7:46 PM @kylepace yes - willingness to fail. We ask kids to learn new things everyday. We must do the same. #edchat kennedyjacque 2/1/11 7:46 PM RT @tomwhitby: We can't expect outside the box results ,if we continue to control learning with inside the box methods! #Edchat becky7274 2/1/11 7:46 PM Can't do personal PD at school Twitter is blocked and I'm not allowed to download Tweetdeck on my school computer - all on my own #edchat lpapplegirl 2/1/11 7:46 PM RT @debbiefuco: RT @jacatlett: #edchat lifelong learners are never satisfied, always seeking more, wanting to be better, willing to experiment and reflect! MsDittmar 2/1/11 want to learn #edchat 7:46 PM PD has to be focused on what teachers

MrsDi 2/1/11 7:46 PM @blairteach Absolutely - relationships, connections, are SO important. How will students connect if WE don't? #edchat Mrskmpeters 2/1/11 7:46 PM RT @kylepace: RT @blairteach: Barrier: It is what we know already that often prevents us from LEARNING. Claude Bernard #edchat teachingwthsoul 2/1/11 7:46 PM @davidwees We have one! http://www.edupln.com/group/theteachermentoringproject #ntchat #edchat mblatt 2/1/11 7:46 PM RT @L_Hilt: We make continued learning part of the job description and make it an expectation. Then provide time and support to grow. #edchat lookforsun 2/1/11 7:46 PM @mariannedavis49 @davidwees #edchat We host student teachers - so much learning for all.

cybraryman1 2/1/11 7:46 PM @MrsDi Years ago my students created their own news show and then presented it to teachers during their lunch. #edchat fiteach 2/1/11 7:46 PM I think it is really difficult to pick a single PD opportunity that responds to the needs of all K-12 teachers in our division. #edchat Mrskmpeters 2/1/11 7:46 PM @DelaneyKirk @stumpteacher I'm demotivated in my bldg to share anything bc there's too much judgment #edchat positivelypt 2/1/11 7:46 PM my coworkers have been my best source of pd and my best comic relief #edchat j_allen 2/1/11 7:46 PM @justintarte @jpprezz But how does the rest of your staff take that? Got your own table? #edchat davidwees 2/1/11 7:46 PM @mariannedavis49 Yeah sure why not. We could all "adopt a new teacher" #ntchat #edchat Mrskmpeters 2/1/11 7:47 PM @stumpteacher @DelaneyKirk I tell myself that every day. Thx for my PLN! #edchat slaggyc 2/1/11 7:47 PM And encourage it! RT @ian23505 Best way to ensure a school full of lifelong learners: hire lifelong learners. Simple right? #edchat blairteach 2/1/11 7:47 PM For those ppl who are "too busy" for learning: "Excuses are the nails used to build a house of failure." Don Wilder #edchat blairteach 2/1/11 7:47 PM For those ppl who are "too busy" for learning: "Excuses are the nails used to build a house of failure." Don Wilder #edchat KTVee 2/1/11 7:47 PM Being a teacher means learning isn't just your business, it's your passion. #edchat #gtchat 8rinaldi 2/1/11 7:47 PM @MrsDi @cybraryman1 Totally agree...students are learners, teachers and planners too #edchat PodPirate 2/1/11 7:47 PM @bhsprincipal I give my students 20% time in my classes. It is some of their most productive learning time. #edchat phsprincipal 2/1/11 7:47 PM #PCHS has an opening for a math teacher and two PE/Dr. Ed teachers. Contact @phsprincipal #edchat

ICBEU_ISAT 2/1/11 7:47 PM True! RT @flavia_matias: I may have a Masters or PhD degree, but if I dont keep on studying all my knowledge will get obsolete. #Edchat chadsansing 2/1/11 eating bacteria. #edchat 7:47 PM @DrTimony like Pluto & aresenic-

jacatlett 2/1/11 7:47 PM @thart74 we are asset model, not deficit model./work w/ teachers' interests or experimentations! great model, still wrking on PR #edchat bhsprincipal 2/1/11 7:47 PM @mbcampbell360 @jerridkruse If we make every decision in our schools based on that small minority, we will never move forward. #edchat ian23505 2/1/11 7:47 PM @stumpteacher I know. I need more floating teachers with high midi-chlorian counts. #edchat Mrskmpeters 2/1/11 7:47 PM when the PD is decided for us! #edchat @MsDittmar Completely agree. I hate

CohenD 2/1/11 7:47 PM @brianbaron13 @profespringer - I have grant $ 4 books. Students give to parent/adult to read simultaneously. Class time=event prep. #edchat monk51295 2/1/11 7:47 PM extremely odd funny #edchat @mbteach well - not happy funny @fiteach FedEx Prep: Time for

Nunavut_Teacher 2/1/11 7:47 PM Innovation http://bit.ly/9L37qn #edchat

techielit 2/1/11 7:47 PM @ksivick sharing a classroom and having a constant observer was at first tough, but makes me better in the long run! #edchat erinneo 2/1/11 7:47 PM @stumpteacher @PodPirate Re: authentic learning experiences- who will show those teachers how? #edchat drtimony 2/1/11 7:47 PM @mbteach it's what I hoped to get across Encienda (hopped up on coffee). We know how to teach but ignore all of it w/each other #edchat gdahlby 2/1/11 7:47 PM @onealchris I think the Authentic Intellectual Work is a pretty good model of peer improvement programs. #edchat Even the best tchrs like wmchamberlain #edchat 2/1/11 7:47 PM @becky7274 hootsuite?

thart74 2/1/11 7:47 PM @jacatlett yes you have to be careful about teaching them to fish rather than fishing for them. #edchat katrocada 2/1/11 7:47 PM RT @blairteach: Everyone SHOULD be a lifelong learner. Don't agree they are. RT @gfreducation: Everyone is a life-long learner. It's about passion. #edchat davidwees 2/1/11 7:47 PM New teacher mentoring project via @teachingwthsoul http://is.gd/FrXfAF #ntchat #edchat lookforsun 2/1/11 7:47 PM @debbiefuco @jacatlett #edchat Actually I was hungering for a group that liked to learn like me - found it on Twitter. ICBEU_ISAT 2/1/11 7:48 PM RT @flavia_matias: Another way of promoting lifelong learning is by fully exploring texts and articles. #Edchat flavia_matias 2/1/11 7:48 PM @kylepace Everyone can play an important role & help promote learning someway.And by making connections we broaden our knowledge. #Edchat MrsDi 2/1/11 7:48 PM Curiosity, connections, learning, sharing, reflection, modeling, positive, meaningful - lots of buzz words today! #edchat chadsansing 2/1/11 7:48 PM #edchat RT @ShellTerrell: When A School Is About Learning http://bit.ly/h7UZLm #edreform CohenD 2/1/11 7:48 PM @techielit - I borrowed the idea from a PLN colleague and did it for the first time last year! This year is second time. #edchat teacherspirit 2/1/11 7:48 PM I don't agree, #edchat @kylepace Life long learners aren't scared to try something new. They aren't afraid of failure. WackJacq 2/1/11 7:48 PM Y was Socrates was considered the wisest man in Athens? -->He was certain that he didn't really know anything. #edchat bhsprincipal 2/1/11 7:48 PM @jerridkruse My message has been "If it can be done, it can be done at BHS" because of our fine staff #edchat jacatlett 2/1/11 7:48 PM @jacatlett we are doing that. I cross county to 3 other schools from my former school...cross pollinating w/ a team #edchat j_allen 2/1/11 7:48 PM @justintarte How does that benefit the rest of your staff when they don't get in on the conversation? #edchat

davidwees 2/1/11 7:48 PM @teachingwthsoul I follow 4100 teachers so my main Twitter stream is a blur, I only follow the chats. :) #edchat LTPParents 2/1/11 7:48 PM RT @KTVee: Being a teacher means learning isn't just your business, it's your passion. #edchat #gtchat Mrskmpeters 2/1/11 7:48 PM YES!! RT @KTVee: Being a teacher means learning isn't just your business, it's your passion. #edchat #gtchat kimber88 2/1/11 7:48 PM Show off grown up learning, students love when I bring in my essays from college courses I am taking. #edchat positivelypt 2/1/11 7:48 PM @MsDittmar they should survey teachers to see what areas they think they need to improve in to best teach their students #edchat kylepace 2/1/11 7:48 PM @mbteach @edtechworkshop Certainly an attitude I never want to have. #edchat palmeram 2/1/11 7:48 PM Key to PD is ongoing development...research shows tchers need 50 hrs of follow up before PD is learned at a deep level #edchat edtechworkshop 2/1/11 7:48 PM What is something new you have learned or are learning lately? where are you going out of your comfort zone? #edchat math2go 2/1/11 7:48 PM RT @KTVee: Being a teacher means learning isn't just your business, it's your passion. #edchat <being in education! mbcampbell360 2/1/11 7:48 PM @bhsprincipal Disagree, that 'small minority' must inform out plans and must not be left behind while we all move forward together #edchat ateachingheart 2/1/11 7:48 PM RT @KTVee: Being a teacher means learning isn't just your business, it's your passion. #edchat #gtchat DelaneyKirk 2/1/11 7:48 PM @DrTimony Just told grad students last week that they needed to build in autonomy, mastery, purpose in the jobs of their employees DahlD 2/1/11 7:48 PM RT @KTVee: Being a teacher means learning isn't just your business, it's your passion. #edchat #gtchat mariannedavis49 2/1/11 7:48 PM @debbiefuco We take the time one to one or in small groups to educate them about the value of Twitter #edchat

erinneo 2/1/11 7:48 PM @davidwees @lookforsun @ian23505 I know this is cynical, but search #ihateschool- they have their own group! #edchat becky7274 2/1/11 7:48 PM @wmchamberlain I have to submit a proposal, sign in blood, and offer up firstborn just to have it considered #edchat bhsprincipal 2/1/11 7:48 PM @jerridkruse Thanks! I really do want that to be the message first and foremost. #edchat justintarte 2/1/11 7:48 PM @j_allen - we have 3 lunch shifts...and we removed ourselves from others so we could have meaningful and "positive" discussions #edchat djakes 2/1/11 7:48 PM See Evaluating Professional Development by Guskey- planning, implementing, and evaluating PD. http://tinyurl.com/4ohdcek #edchat stumpteacher 2/1/11 7:48 PM @erinneo @PodPirate That is where building a PLN and connecting comes into play. #edchat coachleonard40 2/1/11 7:48 PM RT @bhsprincipal: RT @tomwhitby: We're watching SM cause a revolution in the middle east, yet we question its power to affect change in EDU #Edchat Mrskmpeters 2/1/11 7:49 PM RT @MisterEason: If u have to convnce some1 to go to PD, is it the tchr that is wrng or the PD provdr? Seems like if ppl got somthng from PD theyd go #edchat tra_hall 2/1/11 parents #edchat 7:49 PM @l_hilt I only wish I had that kind of @MsDittmar Then they would WANT

MisterEason 2/1/11 7:49 PM to join a PD group. #edchat

ICBEU_ISAT 2/1/11 7:49 PM RT @tomwhitby: Educators must recognize & accept the fact that technology and Social Media tools are the main avenue to lifelong Learning. #Edchat lpapplegirl 2/1/11 7:49 PM So true! RT @KTVee: Being a teacher means learning isn't just your business, it's your passion. #edchat #gtchat profespringer 2/1/11 7:49 PM @CohenD @brianbaron13 Awesome! 4 innovating learning 2 take hold, need community to buy in. Need to look to sell new ways to learn #edchat davidwees 2/1/11 7:49 PM @antoniabarkley You'd have to say to pre-service teachers, "Look this is how you can get feedback & lesson plan ideas." #ntchat #edchat

mbteach 2/1/11 is laugh.... #edchat

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MrsDi 2/1/11 7:49 PM @edtechworkshop Out of your comfort zone! Excellent! THAT'S where so much of the best learning occurs! #edchat drtimony 2/1/11 7:49 PM @DelaneyKirk unless they want to restrict themselves to management. Ppl need to realize that they can only lead the free #edchat usamimi74 2/1/11 7:49 PM @lookforsun @DelaneyKirk @alhelmy @cyclone_alyssa @JosieHolford @blairteach @wmchamberlain @davidwees @stumpteacher Thx 4 convo #edchat flavia_matias 2/1/11 7:49 PM RT @blairteach: For those ppl who are "too busy" for learning: "Excuses are the nails used to build a house of failure." Don Wilder #edchat tra_hall 2/1/11 7:49 PM needs to be eliminated! #edchat @bhsprincipal Small Minority usually

ICBEU_ISAT 2/1/11 7:49 PM RT @flavia_matias: I mean, whenever I read sth and click on its links I usually discover things which are far better than the main content. #Edchat Mrskmpeters 2/1/11 7:49 PM @bhsprincipal I simply wish I had admin more like u that supported tchrs in diff ways #edchat MoodleMcKean 2/1/11 7:49 PM 5 Tips for Leading Your Students to Learning - Applied Educational Systems http://bit.ly/eDG1Uy #edchat #edtech #blended #online #learning MisterEason 2/1/11 7:49 PM If u have to convnce some1 to go to PD, is it the tchr that is wrng or the PD provdr? Seems like if ppl got somthng from PD theyd go #edchat ian23505 #edchat 2/1/11 7:49 PM 7:50 PM @stumpteacher Cool. Had to try. @stumpteacher Lucky u! #edchat

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kennedyjacque 2/1/11 7:50 PM @NMHS_Principal Its this type of thinking that is required to create time for collaboration & dialogue about teaching & learning! #edchat tomwhitby 2/1/11 7:50 PM caves were over rated #edchat @MissShuganah I always thought the

erinneo 2/1/11 7:50 PM @ian23505 @stumpteacher You were supposed to be the chosen one! #edchat #notreallyrelatedtoedchatsorry Mrskmpeters 2/1/11 7:50 PM RT @stumpteacher: I have a great principal, but how many don't have a supportive and innovative admin? #edchat jacatlett 2/1/11 7:50 PM Ugh! but I face silly failures all the time. #edchat I hate when I reply to myself.

PodPirate 2/1/11 7:50 PM @stumpteacher @erinneo I agree about the PLN, it takes vision, courage, and buy in, but it works in my classroom, why not community? #edchat Mrskmpeters 2/1/11 7:50 PM RT @MrsDi: Can we accept that there will always be part of the community that just doesn't get it... and never will? #edchat bhsprincipal 2/1/11 that...but exactly. #edchat 7:50 PM @tra_hall I hate when it comes to

stumpteacher 2/1/11 7:50 PM I have a great principal, but how many don't have a supportive and innovative admin? #edchat edtechworkshop 2/1/11 7:50 PM @MrsDi when you do it, you realize how hard it can be. I think all teachers must be in the position of being students regularly. #edchat justintarte 2/1/11 7:50 PM it doesn't just happen happen between 7-3 RT @KTVee: Being a teacher means learning isn't just yr business, it's yr passion. #edchat #gtchat MrsDi 2/1/11 7:50 PM Can we accept that there will always be part of the community that just doesn't get it... and never will? #edchat lookforsun 2/1/11 7:50 PM @flavia_matias @kylepace #edchat Yes, inviting every teacher to share their strengths and ideas is a good way to foster lifelong learning. drtimony 2/1/11 7:50 PM @DelaneyKirk Please tell me that you references Knowles and not #Pink. >|p #edchat debbiefuco 2/1/11 7:50 PM RT @TheHomeworkDog: Characteristic of a life long learner - ready to say I don't know. I want to find out. #edchat Yes! tktchr 2/1/11 7:50 PM #edchat How bout instead of the principal always going to the cool conferences they send teachers and admin subs for them?

ToddAHoffman 2/1/11 7:50 PM Want to be in a cartoon? Follow @CompassLearning & win your chance to Get Animated. Learn more: http://ow.ly/3KTa9 #edchat #edtech usamimi74 2/1/11 7:50 PM gotta run will catch archives.. thx all for great convo N @kylepace for moderating #edchat WackJacq 2/1/11 7:50 PM @chadsansing We need to develop Learning organizations as Schlechty call them. #edchat MisterEason 2/1/11 7:51 PM assign homework? #edchat For those too busy for PD: Do you

MissShuganah 2/1/11 7:51 PM @tomwhitby Ah, well, you've never seen the horses pop off the cave walls like I have. #edchat (Not going to explain that.) nomorebystander 2/1/11 7:51 PM RT @bhsprincipal: We need to trust our teachers. How about giving them the 20% time that Google does to do pursue PD in whatever they want? #edchat bhsprincipal 2/1/11 7:51 PM we are comparing them to. #edchat @jerridkruse I guess it depends who

LisaMellen 2/1/11 7:51 PM After a year of "grabbing" teachers during their prep times for mini PD, I have teachers asking me #edchat DonaKimberly 2/1/11 7:51 PM culture of the school needs to promote PD RT @MsDittmar: #edchat The

ian23505 2/1/11 7:51 PM @pete_rodrigues I also think you see a lifelong learner when they speak naturally about lrng and it weaves throughout responses. #edchat gdahlby 2/1/11 7:51 PM How narrow of focus is your PD vs looking at the breadth of skill, subject, experience, etc. of your staff? Do U differentiate? #edchat MrsDi 2/1/11 7:51 PM @edtechworkshop You bet - it's humbling to be back in the student seat at times. A necessary feeling I think! #edchat MoodleMcKean 2/1/11 7:51 PM Q & A: Jennifer Groff, Learning Games Network - edReformer http://bit.ly/gF3E3Y #GBL #edchat #edtech stumpteacher 2/1/11 7:51 PM @PodPirate @erinneo Just because something works in my classroom does not mean it will in yours. Each teacher teaches differently #edchat

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#edchat The culture of the school

bhsprincipal 2/1/11 7:51 PM @mbcampbell360 Yes - I hate when it comes to that, but they do make the ultimate decision themselves. #edchat fraserboyd 2/1/11 7:51 PM Looking for ideas for ways to introduce #Democracy as a context topic with my un-worldly P7 (age 11) class in Scotland #edchat #ukedchat teachingwthsoul 2/1/11 7:51 PM @davidwees Ok sure...I can imagine. Folks there are excited to start to help and mentor also here @edutopia :http://bit.ly/8YKLsm #edchat brasst 2/1/11 7:52 PM @MrsDi #edchat I have a hard time accepting "never getting it" amongst fellow teachers when I don't accept it w/kids. Need new angles! MisterEason 2/1/11 7:52 PM just frustrate ourselves, IMHO. #edchat @MrsDi If we can't accept it, we will

chadsansing 2/1/11 7:52 PM @WackJacq #edchat and learning organizations are not designed as teaching organizations first ateachingheart 2/1/11 7:52 PM Please don't promote cookie cutter teaching under the guise of PD. #edchat so teachers can draw from many methods as needed... justintarte 2/1/11 7:52 PM RT @debbiefuco: RT @TheHomeworkDog: Characteristic of a life long learner - ready to say I don't know. I want to find out. #edchat Yes! lpapplegirl 2/1/11 7:52 PM #edchat The only way you truly fail is by not trying at all. Even if things do not go as planned, learning takes place. erinneo 2/1/11 experience. #edchat erinneo 2/1/11 experience. #edchat 7:52 PM 7:52 PM @lisamellen I've had the same @lisamellen I've had the same

krcook_edu 2/1/11 7:52 PM @kylepace Making connections & fostering relationships is especially important in continuous online learning. #edchat CohenD 2/1/11 7:52 PM Good PD also benefits from good outside support! My event depends on Facing History and Ourselves http://facinghistory.org #edchat

Edu_Traveler 2/1/11 7:52 PM @onealchris @gdahlby I have a book..will look for title but google search should provide some starting points #edchat chadsansing 2/1/11 7:52 PM #edchat i want tchng game like @iCivics "Do I Have A Right?" http://bit.ly/cqL7Do that updates optns w/ research/pedagogies & links to tags marciarpowell 2/1/11 7:52 PM @bhsprincipal If we are talking %, probably 70% of those I know. The support of the 30% is a challenge. Strategy thoughts? #edchat ksivick2/1/11 7:52 PM I've produce a weekly video for our web, teachers must write script and provide photos, has upped the game for some #edchat flavia_matias 2/1/11 w/ you. #edchat 7:52 PM @lookforsun @kylepace I totally agree

kylepace 2/1/11 7:52 PM @lookforsun @flavia_matias Or inviting your own teachers to facilitate the PD. Identify the strengths in your own building. #edchat pete_rodrigues 2/1/11 kind of questions too #edchat 7:52 PM @ian23505 have to ask those

tra_hall 2/1/11 7:52 PM @bhsprincipal As principals we all hate it when it comes to that. How much time and how do you schedule time and hold teachers acct #edchat slaggyc 2/1/11 7:53 PM Lots of us! RT @stumpteacher I have a great principal, but how many don't have a supportive and innovative admin? #edchat lookforsun 2/1/11 7:53 PM @krcook_edu @kylepace #edchat Getting NBPTS certified - fostered lifelong learning too. stumpteacher 2/1/11 7:53 PM @PodPirate @erinneo Yes, I am a HUGE fan of sharing just not of cookie cutter curriculum that pigeon holes teaching. #edchat erinneo 2/1/11 7:53 PM @stumpteacher @PodPirate Just because something works in my classroom... #edchat Think so? Even if the students are the same students? kennedyjacque 2/1/11 7:53 PM moving with a critical mass! #edchat @NMHS_Principal Nothing like

cfanch 2/1/11 7:53 PM @jerridkruse however, why has Tunisia and now Egypt moved so rapidly? Communication moves rapidly via the tech. #edchat mbcampbell360 2/1/11 7:53 PM RT @debbiefuco: Paulo Freire "Pedagogy of the Oppressed" teacher-student, student-teacher, learning from and with each other. #edchat profespringer 2/1/11 7:53 PM W/ many people needing 2 learn more in order 2 get job skills, save money, etc, it would b great 4 school 2 b central learning hub #edchat ruriknackerud 2/1/11 7:53 PM @edtechworkshop #edchat Learning about Analytics via #LAK11 Sometimes feel this stuff is misused though. What are we measuring? tra_hall 2/1/11 7:53 PM @marciarpowell @bhsprincipal I would argue that its more like 80-20 or 90-10 if your doing a good job #edchat WackJacq 2/1/11 7:53 PM It seems that we all really love @DanielPink on #edchat, what would he say? We already know, don;t we? Open source the school! jacatlett 2/1/11 @MisterEason #edchat 7:53 PM Great question! I suspect so...

debbiefuco 2/1/11 7:53 PM Paulo Freire "Pedagogy of the Oppressed" teacher-student, student-teacher, learning from and with each other. #edchat MsDittmar 2/1/11 7:53 PM #edchat Tomorrow I'm hosting Lunch Bytes; teachers will learn about Diigo. Give the teachers opportunities. PodPirate 2/1/11 7:53 PM @stumpteacher @erinneo True, but sharing of ideas allows others to adapt the idea to their style, w/out sharing learning stagnates #edchat kylepace #edchat 2/1/11 7:53 PM @teacherspirit Say more about that.

MrsDi 2/1/11 7:53 PM RT @krcook_edu: @kylepace Making connections & fostering relationships is especially important in continuous online learning. #edchat ian23505 2/1/11 installment. #edchat 7:53 PM @stumpteacher I would love another

davidwees 2/1/11 7:53 PM Okay all, offline for a couple of hours, at least. Basketball practice! Thanks for the chat. #edchat

ian23505 2/1/11 7:54 PM @pete_rodrigues Absolutely. My colleagues and I are in process of sifting out, "How do we 'assess' these qualities in candidates?" #edchat stumpteacher 2/1/11 7:54 PM @wastheword True, you can certainly develop on your own, but it is harder. #edchat mandyrobek 2/1/11 7:54 PM @karenszymusiak could self directed teacher learning come from finding a passion or interest and guiding a small first step. #edchat MsDittmar 2/1/11 7:54 PM @positivelypt At my school, we've have surveyed, and it's become very successful. #edchat MisterEason 2/1/11 7:54 PM same thing to me. #edchat @jacatlett Yup, seems like sort of the

humekaren 2/1/11 7:54 PM RT @chrisbratseth: Loved listening to catalytic message! High praise! Will try to live up in Thurs interview http://ht.ly/3NyYT. #edchat MrsDi 2/1/11 7:54 PM @brasst Agree, new angles to entice some to join LLL - but must recognize when hit brick wall & move on too. Kids? I fight harder 4! #edchat CTLEvents 2/1/11 7:54 PM RT @tomwhitby: Educators must recognize & accept the fact that technology and Social Media tools are the main avenue to lifelong Learning. #Edchat alhelmy 2/1/11 7:54 PM @edtechworkshop @kkemp70 @lookforsun @mikevigilant @cybraryman1 @ian23505 @bhsprincipal @usamimi74 @scastriotta Thanks for the great #edchat edtechworkshop 2/1/11 7:54 PM @ruriknackerud I don't know! but learning about it might be a step towards some new insight.... #edchat wmchamberlain 2/1/11 best-practices? #edchat 7:54 PM @ateachingheart you mean like

WackJacq 2/1/11 7:54 PM @chadsansing Right. They are incompatible. We need a redo. But has to start with a public demand 1st. #edchat stumpteacher 2/1/11 7:54 PM @erinneo @PodPirate I know so...even if you teach the same lesson you have different background info and life experiences. #edchat

8rinaldi 2/1/11 7:54 PM @Mrskmpeters @stumpteacher It must be so difficult when admin doesn't support your ideas and practice..#edchat fiteach 2/1/11 7:55 PM I'm reading about Fed-Ex PD. Seems like such a simple yet effective idea if admin is on board! #edchat Thanks @Nunavut_Teacher. lookforsun 2/1/11 7:55 PM @kylepace @flavia_matias #edchat Yes, in-house Teacher led pd can be very powerful. erinneo 2/1/11 7:55 PM Really enjoyed my first #edchat Thanks for the stimulating conversation all! karenszymusiak #edchat 2/1/11 7:55 PM @mandyrobek Absolutely.

Mrskmpeters 2/1/11 7:55 PM RT @techfacil: How 'bout no more groundings, 'wrap ups, gallery walks, and sit-and-listen-then-think-pair-share in PD? Makes me feel 5 years old. #edchat wmchamberlain 2/1/11 7:55 PM #edchat won't get you kicked out of the club :) @ateachingheart forgetting

padgets 2/1/11 7:55 PM #edchat so what if we had a edcamp at the same time same day connecting all states and countries who want to participate? we have the tech stumpteacher 2/1/11 7:55 PM @lookforsun @slaggyc That is sad. Easy to say "then leave" but the reality of our economy is that you need the job. #edchat ian23505 #edchat 2/1/11 7:55 PM @alhelmy Great chatting with you too!

PodPirate 2/1/11 7:55 PM @stumpteacher @erinneo yes, and I wasn't nor would I ever suggest "cookie cutter curriculum" #edchat MsDittmar 2/1/11 7:55 PM #edchat Teachers need their PD to be meaningful instruction and connected to what they are doing in the classroom...just like students kennedyjacque 2/1/11 7:55 PM Some times an interest in learning starts with the expectation and a purpose, and then the tools and time to solve problems. #edchat ian23505 2/1/11 7:55 PM were here tonight! #edchat @mariannedavis49 Didn't know you

ateachingheart 2/1/11 7:55 PM RT @ateachingheart: @wmchamberlain No, I mean like Worksheets. lol forgot #edchat techfacil 2/1/11 7:55 PM How 'bout no more groundings, 'wrap ups, gallery walks, and sit-and-listen-then-think-pair-share in PD? Makes me feel 5 years old. #edchat lasic 2/1/11 7:55 PM Don't just bash (some) teachers for not being 'passionate, lifelong learners' etc. Ask & try to understand 'why' first. #edchat bhsprincipal 2/1/11 7:55 PM @marciarpowell I would go back to what @coachginsburg said - show concrete examples that are working - those who care will adopt. #edchat chadsansing 2/1/11 7:55 PM @WackJacq i publicly demand that we remake schools as learning organizations; pls RT #edchat justintarte 2/1/11 7:55 PM yes! RT @lpapplegirl: #edchat The only way you truly fail is by not trying at all. Even if things do not go as planned, learning takes place lookforsun 2/1/11 7:55 PM @slaggyc @stumpteacher #edchat Some friends work in school systems w/no freedom, no professional respect suffocating - so sad. Philip_Cummings 2/1/11 7:56 PM RT @lasic: Don't just bash (some) teachers for not being 'passionate, lifelong learners' etc. Ask & try to understand 'why' first. #edchat lookforsun 2/1/11 7:56 PM @onealchris @gdahlby #edchat I've observed and had "YIKES" moments, I'm always so compassionate though as I've had my own "YIKES" moments. MoodleMcKean 2/1/11 7:56 PM It's the Way I Share Too >> Turn On the Share Button | Connected Principals http://bit.ly/ghSCpZ #edchat #SM #lrnchat #tlchat #elearning justintarte 2/1/11 7:56 PM How can we improve PD and faculty meetings? GREAT comments here! http://bit.ly/hrn57M #edchat DelaneyKirk 2/1/11 7:56 PM @Mrskmpeters @stumpteacher I think some are threatened by those of us who are early adopters of technology, learning theories, etc #edchat tomwhitby 2/1/11 7:56 PM China and many middle East countries have blocked or banned the internet to STOP the exchange of ideas as well as communication.#Edchat

kennedyjacque 2/1/11 7:56 PM @kylepace Relentlessly seeking new solutions to old and new problems through a variety of innovations. #edchat tshreve 2/1/11 7:56 PM @lookforsun @kylepace @flavia_matias We've been using teachers for pd for several years. It tends to work well. #edchat stumpteacher 2/1/11 7:56 PM @L_Hilt has a great example of a "FedEx" PD approach. Don't have the link to her post though... #edchat gdahlby 2/1/11 7:56 PM What will be "studied" or explored, etc. will be determined by whom? #edchat There are systemic improvemnt that is "all staff" #edchat drtimony 2/1/11 7:56 PM Nothing sadder than someone who walks into a room with nothing to learn. #edchat tra_hall 2/1/11 7:56 PM @bhspricipal @mctownsley Whitaker is right about rules for best teachers. It is just hard to do it sometimes. I try very hard! #edchat ateachingheart 2/1/11 7:56 PM @wmchamberlain lol thought you knew me better than that and I got a little excited #edchat lpapplegirl 2/1/11 7:56 PM Very true! RT @MrsDi: @blairteach Absolutely - relationships, connections, are SO important. How will students connect if WE don't? #edchat billgx 2/1/11 7:56 PM No man who worships education has got the best out of education. W/o a gentle contempt for ed. no man's ed. is complete. Chesterton #edchat kylepace 2/1/11 7:56 PM @teacherspirit I don't disagree. They fear the failure, but if failure occurs it doesn't stop them from going at it again. #edchat kathleen_morris 2/1/11 7:56 PM RT @kathleen_morris: I just blogged about my presentation to staff today - Tips to Integrate Tech http://bit.ly/eucnwC #edtech #edchat #vicpln debbiefuco 2/1/11 7:56 PM RT @lookforsun: @debbiefuco @jacatlett #edchat Actually I was hungering for a group that liked 2 learn like me-found it on Twitter. Me, 2! stumpteacher 2/1/11 7:56 PM @PodPirate @erinneo Gotcha. I share everything and anything I do. My door is wide open to the world. #edchat

MrsDi 2/1/11 7:57 PM Been away from edchat for a bit, nice to be back- thanks all for giving me so much to reflect on tonight! nite! #edchat tshreve 2/1/11 7:57 PM @tomwhitby Just like some schools lock out students from using the internet #edchat paulawhite 2/1/11 7:57 PM Great questions about PD and teaching and learning here: http://bit.ly/eL2jve #edchat becky7274 2/1/11 7:57 PM @drtimony although one who comes in announcing that they know everything is as sad and more annoying #edchat lookforsun 2/1/11 7:57 PM @onealchris @gdahlby #edchat Starting out as young teachers in a climate w/lots of trust could encourage this. wmchamberlain 2/1/11 7:57 PM @ateachingheart half the time I in #edchat I am just pushing buttons. Need to be "that guy" sometimes #plusitisfun marcizane 2/1/11 7:57 PM RT @techfacil: Instead, how 'bout we do PD a la #educon, where we share cool stuff, and people a free to learn, share and use tech freely? #edchat PodPirate 2/1/11 7:57 PM @stumpteacher @erinneo my motto, we are not in an upwardly mobile profession, share everything, hide nothing, give credit #edchat tra_hall 2/1/11 7:57 PM your FedEx PD blogpost? #edchat @l_hilt would you give me alink to

CohenD 2/1/11 7:57 PM Ditto - my 1st time really in the "live" flow! RT @erinneo: Really enjoyed my first #edchat Thanks for the stimulating conversation all! mikevigilant 2/1/11 7:57 PM @jen_dC So true and so powerful-wish my principal was on Twitter so she could see this amazing conversation! #edchat drtimony 2/1/11 7:57 PM It's the leaders who have to act as advocate and buffer between the politicos and the people. Step up to the fight! #edchat mbcampbell360 2/1/11 7:57 PM To become a better teacher, teach. Do it consciously with passion. Reflect upon your work and don't be afraid to say 'I don't know' #edchat jasontbedell 2/1/11 7:57 PM RT @mritzius: Feeling the inevitable post- #educon blues? TeachMeet NJ is only a few weeks away. Grab your free tickets ! TMNJ.org #tmnj #edchat

Mrskmpeters 2/1/11 7:57 PM @DelaneyKirk @stumpteacher I know that's what it is in my bldg. But it's also bc I'm not 1 of the 1:1 tchrs or the tech tchr. #edchat bhsprincipal 2/1/11 7:57 PM RT @gcouros: Connected Principals Reflections | Our #cpchat and #educon session http://bit.ly/fhPgrW #edchat MisterEason 2/1/11 7:57 PM RT @MsDittmar: #edchat Teachers need their PD to be meaningful instruction and connected to what they are doing in the classroom...just like students MrsDi 2/1/11 7:57 PM #edchat

wastheword 2/1/11 7:57 PM Passion 4 teaching, for students, for your subject--that fierce love of it all--that's the key. Admins come and go. Heart is key. #edchat stumpteacher 2/1/11 7:57 PM @DelaneyKirk @Mrskmpeters Just have to have passion even if it is not popular. http://bit.ly/fqt7pb #edchat ksivick2/1/11 7:57 PM thanks to all for great #edchat, timely for me mtg, with admin this week about better PD! justwonderinY 2/1/11 7:57 PM @fiteach Do you have that link? That is the 3rd time today I've heard "Fed-Ex PD". Now I'm wondering what that means.... #edchat mikevigilant 2/1/11 7:57 PM @alhelmy No, thank you guys! It's been amazing and I'm new to all this! #edchat has been the best find I've had all year. teacherspirit 2/1/11 7:57 PM know how to learn #edchat @kylepace I think that's because we

debbiefuco 2/1/11 7:57 PM RT @Mrskmpeters: YES!! RT @KTVee: Being a teacher means learning isn't just your business, it's your passion. #edchat #gtchat mariannedavis49 2/1/11 7:57 PM @nomorebystander Love the Google idea. Per Dan Pink it's all about autonomy. #edchat kylepace 2/1/11 7:57 PM RT @lasic: Don't just bash (some) teachers for not being 'passionate, lifelong learners' etc. Ask & try to understand 'why' first. #edchat MisterEason 2/1/11 7:57 PM #edchat Probably why I use twitter. @techfacil I HATE think-pair-share!

graingered 2/1/11 7:57 PM @wmchamberlain @ateachingheart "Best practices" Rlike criminal record checks, they hav finite shelf life. Strive 4constant imprvment #edchat techfacil 2/1/11 7:57 PM Instead, how 'bout we do PD a la #educon, where we share cool stuff, and people a free to learn, share and use tech freely? #edchat teacherspirit 2/1/11 7:57 PM @kylepace I think it's also about trusting ourselves as learners enough to know that success will come w/time #edchat WackJacq 2/1/11 7:58 PM We need to also enable learners ways of knowing how much learning they are achieving- in authentic ways. #edchat blairteach 2/1/11 7:58 PM Thank you @kylepace & @mbteach for moderating. Another fine job. Now, off to work; back later. #edchat neilringrose 2/1/11 7:58 PM RT @ToddAHoffman: Want to be in a cartoon? Follow @CompassLearning & win your chance to Get Animated. Learn more: http://ow.ly/3KTa9 #edchat math2go #edchat 2/1/11 7:58 PM thx to the moderators tonight!

MisterEason 2/1/11 7:58 PM RT @drtimony: Nothing sadder than someone who walks into a room with nothing to learn. #edchat dalmatiasecond 2/1/11 7:58 PM #541 #PATeach 2 snow days. Teacher In Service Fri. I am going to start my 5 for 1 next week. We can still use some more teachers! #edchat drtimony 2/1/11 there... #edchat 7:58 PM @becky7274 it's really downhill from @graingered but best practices

wmchamberlain 2/1/11 7:58 PM are timeless, like fairy tales.... #edchat

cybraryman1 2/1/11 7:58 PM @kylepace @mbteach Great moderating! Thanks for helping me with my lifelong learning addiction #edchat stumpteacher 2/1/11 7:58 PM @PodPirate @erinneo Agreed, some districts don't allow their curriculum to be shared. #edchat lookforsun 2/1/11 7:58 PM @erinneo @davidwees @ian23505 #edchat Not just belong, but be w/people who are asking similar questions, seeking similar answers.

mbteach 2/1/11 7:58 PM As a wrap up, it seems that to make lifelong learners, we need to let tchrs decide their learning path & provide time for reflection #edchat L_Hilt 2/1/11 7:58 PM @tra_hall @stumpteacher Thanks. I posted it earlier. Here is mine and also @mrwejr 's http://bit.ly/gJhM14 http://bit.ly/9L37qn #edchat BryanPhillips 2/1/11 7:58 PM this country was formed by people with "like minds", can we not reform education in it? #edchat mariannedavis49 2/1/11 7:58 PM forgetting to put #edchat in my comments! MisterEason 2/1/11 7:58 PM you come back next week! #edchat @ian23505 you bet. I just keep

@erinneo Glad you enjoyed it! Hope

DonaKimberly 2/1/11 7:58 PM RT @mbcampbell360: To become a better teacher, teach. Do it consciously with passion. Reflect upon your work and don't be afraid to say 'I don't know' #edchat Jen_dC 2/1/11 7:58 PM copy/paste :p #edchat @mikevigilant erm...there's always

phsprincipal 2/1/11 7:59 PM RT @tomwhitby: A big Thanks out to @kylepace & @mbteach for moderating this lightening fast #Edchat this week. Philip_Cummings 2/1/11 7:59 PM Sounds rt. RT @mbteach: As wrap up, 2 make lifelong learners, we need 2 let tchrs decide own lrning path & provide time 4 reflection #edchat ian23505 2/1/11 7:59 PM explain why I didn;t see you! #edchat @mariannedavis49 That would

ateachingheart 2/1/11 7:59 PM RT @chadsansing: #edchat go demand schools that are learning organizations, not teaching ones techfacil 2/1/11 7:59 PM Ditto. RT @tomwhitby: A big Thanks out to @kylepace & @mbteach for moderating this lightening fast #Edchat this week. MisterEason 2/1/11 7:59 PM RT @Philip_Cummings: RT @lasic: Don't just bash (some) teachers for not being 'passionate, lifelong learners' etc. Ask & try to understand 'why' first. #edchat ksivick2/1/11 7:59 PM RT @tomwhitby: A big Thanks out to @kylepace & @mbteach for moderating this lightening fast #Edchat this week.

tra_hall 2/1/11 7:59 PM @marciarplowell @blairteach A PLC is not the answer for me I am at a small school with only one teacher per gradelevel #edchat tomwhitby 2/1/11 7:59 PM A big Thanks out to @kylepace & @mbteach for moderating this lightening fast #Edchat this week. chadsansing 2/1/11 7:59 PM #edchat go demand schools that are learning organizations, not teaching ones shawdave 2/1/11 archive later 7:59 PM missed #edchat ....dang! I'll catch the

MisterEason 2/1/11 7:59 PM I don't know about you guys but personally, I feel like I learned more and enjoyed learning more once I graduated high school. #edchat ian23505 2/1/11 7:59 PM @lookforsun So true. Can provide a sense of belonging for folks who might not feel they belong in where they are. #edchat ateachingheart 2/1/11 7:59 PM Speaking for teachers...don't insult me as a professional by acting like a scripted lesson or worksheet is PD #edchat kennedyjacque 2/1/11 7:59 PM @tomwhitby Some times technology becomes an excuse so I'd say collegial dialogue is the main avenue. Social media is a vehicle. #edchat gdahlby 2/1/11 7:59 PM RT @lookforsun What would you do? #edchat I've observed & had "YIKES" moments, I'm always so compassionate though as I've had my own moments marciarpowell 2/1/11 8:00 PM @B_Wagoner Our experience is that a strong BLT and hand-picked PLCs that are cross disciplined for 9-12 have helped #edchat TheHomeworkDog 2/1/11 learn on the run. #edchat 8:00 PM Love that twitter allows me to

Mrskmpeters 2/1/11 8:00 PM @WackJacq What happens if ur community doesn't demand it bc they fly under the radar due to immigration, etc? Then we have no fuel #edchat MoodleMcKean 2/1/11 8:00 PM How can we teach sharing? | Tech Ed-dy http://bit.ly/ektrf0 #PLN #SM #edchat

ateachingheart 2/1/11 8:00 PM @tra_hall PLC does not work well with 7 team members as in our school, either. Too many to work in a cohesive group #edchat edtechworkshop 2/1/11 8:00 PM I couldn't keep up at all....but it was more fun than cleaning the kitchen! #edchat Philip_Cummings 2/1/11 rock. (& I'm exhausted.) #edchat 8:00 PM @mbteach @kylepace You

BryanPhillips 2/1/11 8:00 PM #edchat. Couldnt engage for reading

I am tired from reading tonights

chadsansing 2/1/11 8:00 PM as fast as thundersnow RT @tomwhitby: A big Thanks out to @kylepace & @mbteach for moderating this lightening fast #Edchat this week. kylepace 2/1/11 8:00 PM Thanks everyone for joining #edchat and sharing. I appreciate learning from so many. Back to shoveling for me. #snomg mikevigilant 2/1/11 8:00 PM @jen_dC I know. I might get brave and share some of my #edchat learning with administrators...it's just too good to keep to myself! lookforsun 2/1/11 8:00 PM @erinneo @ian23505 @davidwees #edchat Everyone socially driven? not all - that area of my life is so full - I'm intellectually driven now. WackJacq 2/1/11 8:00 PM Change must begin in the community. If they demand it. Schools will have to change. #edchat YearofScienceBC 2/1/11 8:00 PM We would <3 to see teachers & students show off their mad science projects & skills on our Facebook site! http://ow.ly/3Oue7 #edchat #bced TheHomeworkDog 2/1/11 8:00 PM Thanks @kylepace & @mbteach - I'll keep working my speed reading. That was fast...:) #edchat slaggyc 2/1/11 8:00 PM Yes. And scary to leave during this economy. RT @stumpteacher @lookforsun @slaggyc That is sad. Easy to say "then leave" #edchat graingered 2/1/11 8:01 PM @debbiefuco @Mrskmpeters @KTVee Wow. Competence & commitment R not nec synonomous w/ "passion" Lots just do an excellent job tching #edchat ateachingheart 2/1/11 8:01 PM Wow #edchat was really fun. I am glad I took typing classes in the 70's- my 55wpm almost helped me keep up

becky7274 2/1/11 8:01 PM Another great #edchat - sitting here thinking about everybody I wish would have been participating with me. anniemais 2/1/11 8:01 PM RT @roadtripnation: AVID & Roadtrip Nation working together to help keep kids in school: http://huff.to/eHaaWO via @huffingtonpost #sotu #edreform #edchat fiteach 2/1/11 8:01 PM @justwonderinY RT @Nunavut_Teacher: @fiteach FedEx Prep: Time for Innovation http://bit.ly/9L37qn #edchat Mrskmpeters 2/1/11 8:01 PM @jen_dC Isn't it fun?! Overwhelming, but still fun to share ideas with ppl. #edchat ParisCo_op 2/1/11 8:01 PM RT @phsprincipal: #PCHS has an opening for a math teacher and two PE/Dr. Ed teachers. Contact @phsprincipal #edchat stumpteacher 2/1/11 8:01 PM Thanks for a great #edchat folks!

CohenD 2/1/11 8:01 PM @brianbaron13 @profespringer @techielit - let me know if you want details on teach in. Here's a similar ex. http://bit.ly/gd29f5 #edchat WackJacq 2/1/11 8:01 PM @mikevigilant Don't be disaapointed if they want to keep watching the shadows in the cave! Keep the faith! #edchat gdahlby 2/1/11 Thank you. #edchat 8:01 PM @onealchris Gr8t exchange tonight.

profespringer 2/1/11 8:01 PM @WackJacq Totally agree. We need to pull in more parts of the community to normal business at school in order 2 promote new learning #edchat cjpeterso 2/1/11 8:01 PM Study: #LGBT Kids Face More Punishments http://tinyurl.com/4t5jvd3 We all need to understand challenges they face #tldl #tlchat #edchat ladyteachkdg 2/1/11 8:01 PM RT @TheHomeworkDog: Thanks @kylepace & @mbteach - I'll keep working my speed reading. That was fast...:) #edchat <----- I totally agree! WoW tomwhitby 2/1/11 8:01 PM @kennedyjacque Make no mistake it is a tool, but that tool is becoming the aqueduct of information, collaboration and communication. #edchat bhsprincipal 2/1/11 8:01 PM Thanks for a great #edchat everyone!

FrauSusi 2/1/11 8:01 PM RT @kennedyjacque: @tomwhitby Some times technology becomes an excuse so I'd say collegial dialogue is the main avenue. Social media is a vehicle. #edchat Edu_Traveler 2/1/11 8:01 PM @tra_hall @marciarplowell @blairteach I have same issues with schools I work with..creating a ning to start conver across schools #edchat Jen_dC 2/1/11 8:01 PM @mikevigilant start small--pick off the most likely supporter. when he seems to have super powers the rest will want in :) #edchat stumpteacher 2/1/11 8:02 PM @PodPirate @Mrskmpeters @slaggyc @DelaneyKirk @lookforsun @8rinaldi @ian23505 @mariannedavis49 @erinneo @usamimi74 Thx for convo! #edchat profespringer 2/1/11 8:02 PM Good talk #edchat See ya next time

AntLak 2/1/11 8:02 PM @tomwhitby not one bit. I agree 100 percent that so much can be learned in SM. But so many teachers turn their noses up to the idea #Edchat kylepace 2/1/11 8:02 PM right? Thanks for joining in! @tra_hall It was your first #edchat

ateachingheart 2/1/11 8:02 PM I have volunteeered to teach a PD in my school on twitter and I want it to go just like it did in #edchat today! cfanch 2/1/11 8:02 PM here's my first of 2 posts on 2nite's (and, it seems the last few weeks) of #edchat: http://bit.ly/hbzhdm kennedyjacque 2/1/11 8:02 PM @kylepace I believe it is THE # 1 factor if action steps and practical application are part of the conversation. #edchat Jen_dC 2/1/11 8:02 PM @Mrskmpeters that was fantastic, and I found a gaggle of new folks to follow :) #edchat tra_hall 2/1/11 8:02 PM Thanks to @blairteach for getting me involved; @l_hilt @bhsprincipal @@marciarpowell @edu_Traveler for great conversation #edchat pete_rodrigues 2/1/11 Ex prep http://bit.ly/9L37qn 8:02 PM #edchat @MrWejr post on Fed

lookforsun 2/1/11 8:02 PM @tshreve @kylepace @flavia_matias I'm sure it's very affirming and community building to use in-house teachers for pd. #edchat

slaggyc 2/1/11 8:02 PM Anyone else put there from a crazy dir. Inst. Led district, or have they sucked the life out of all of us. #edchat tra_hall 2/1/11 8:03 PM @kylepace Yes it was my first #edchat I ejoyed it very much... looking forward to reading the archive artFling 2/1/11 8:03 PM RT @WackJacq: Stop the practice of giving the best teachers easiest to teach students. We need our most talented teachers w/ fragilest learners #edchat marciarpowell 2/1/11 8:03 PM @tra_hall And the 30% is often motivated for learning in a non-academic area, (extracurricular area) #edchat WackJacq 2/1/11 #edchat moderator! 8:03 PM @kylepace Thank you! You are a great

accordin2jo 2/1/11 8:03 PM RT @KTVee: Being a teacher means learning isn't just your business, it's your passion. #edchat #gtchat lookforsun 2/1/11 8:03 PM #edchat Thanks for one more invigorating, idea-generating, growth-producing chat! fraserboyd 2/1/11 8:03 PM RT @davidwees: #Microsofts #Bing uses #Google search resultsand denies it http://bit.ly/gRNSX4 #edchat #edtech #naughty drtimony 2/1/11 #edcybercamp? #edchat 8:03 PM so when are we going to do

ScottElias 2/1/11 8:03 PM @dkdykstra @techfacil As far as I'm concerned, if you haven't jigsawed or gallery walked, you haven't attended *real* PD. #edchat MisterEason 2/1/11 8:03 PM RT @mbteach: As a wrap up, it seems that to make lifelong learners, we need to let tchrs decide their learning path & provide time for reflection #edchat MisterEason 2/1/11 8:03 PM RT @mbteach: As a wrap up, it seems that to make lifelong learners, we need to let tchrs decide their learning path & provide time for reflection #edchat graingered 2/1/11 8:03 PM @wmchamberlain I tend to agree, but many looking 4 silver bullet "latest & greatest" bandwagon program/approach, no? #edchat Mrskmpeters 2/1/11 8:03 PM RT @krcook_edu: Learning is like rowing upstream: not to advance is to drop back. ~Chinese Proverb #edchat Powerful!

wastheword 2/1/11 8:03 PM @MsDittmar In a culture of joyful learning and experimentation, you don't have to promote, much. Getting out of the way is an art.#edchat krcook_edu 2/1/11 8:03 PM Learning is like rowing upstream: not to advance is to drop back. ~Chinese Proverb #edchat Mrskmpeters 2/1/11 8:03 PM RT @AntLak: @tomwhitby not one bit. I agree 100 percent that so much can be learned in SM. But so many teachers turn their noses up to the idea #Edchat wmchamberlain 2/1/11 8:04 PM @graingered way too often, even "best practices" are a latest and greatest bandwagon approach #edchat graingered 2/1/11 8:04 PM @wmchamberlain If we're looking at the "timeless" grounded approaches & synergizing w/new contexts to fit, I think thats good #edchat tperran 2/1/11 8:04 PM RT @SpecialEdAdvice: Please Join #spedchat tonight at 8:30 pm EST. All are welcome TweetChat at: http://bit.ly/f6ijhM #spedchat #edchat WackJacq 2/1/11 8:04 PM RT @profespringer: We need to pull in more parts of the community to normal business at school in order 2 promote new learning #edchat yayafaith 2/1/11 8:04 PM RT @Mrskmpeters: RT @krcook_edu: Learning is like rowing upstream: not to advance is to drop back. ~Chinese Proverb #edchat Powerful! tra_hall 2/1/11 8:04 PM ning... interesting #edchat @edu_traveler send me a link about

1nbm 2/1/11 8:04 PM RT @tomwhitby: Educators must recognize & accept the fact that technology and Social Media tools are the main avenue to lifelong Learning. #Edchat stumpteacher 2/1/11 8:04 PM Twitter has changed my life: http://bit.ly/aXF9DC #edchat if you are new go here http://bit.ly/fxnHRQ #edchat MisterEason 2/1/11 ever! Gotta love it! 8:04 PM Man, that #edchat was as intense as

debbiefuco 2/1/11 8:04 PM RT @cybraryman1: @kylepace @mbteach Great moderating! Thanks for helping me with my lifelong learning addiction #edchat ~ passion

tomwhitby 2/1/11 8:04 PM @AntLak That is why there is no Education reform without a Reform in the Culture. #Edchat ateachingheart 2/1/11 8:05 PM I love #edchat and is it every Tuesday night? All you people are smart and addicted to learning/teaching like me!!! techfacil 2/1/11 8:05 PM @ScottElias @dkdykstra (rolling eyes) I think I'm fortunate when I don't know what you mean by 'jigsaws'!!! #edchat tborash 2/1/11 8:05 PM Senge's disciplines of the learning organization: personal mastery, mental models, shared vision, team learning, systems thinking #edchat onealchris 2/1/11 8:05 PM RT @Edu_Traveler: @gdahlby @onealchris Link for Japanese Lesson Study: http://www.tc.columbia.edu/lessonstudy/tools.html #edchat blairteach 2/1/11 8:05 PM @tra_hall I can talk w/you about nings while I'm out your way next week. #edchat tshreve 2/1/11 8:05 PM Chatting with all of you reaffirms my decision to become a teacher all those years ago - thanks! #edchat DelaneyKirk 2/1/11 8:05 PM RT @stumpteacher: @DelaneyKirk @Mrskmpeters Just have to have passion even if it is not popular. http://bit.ly/fqt7pb #edchat Edu_Traveler 2/1/11 8:05 PM @gdahlby @onealchris Link for Japanese Lesson Study: http://www.tc.columbia.edu/lessonstudy/tools.html #edchat kylepace 2/1/11 8:05 PM @tra_hall You can find the archive for #edchat over at http://bit.ly/aAv2Kp - it'll be up later from @jswiatek. ateachingheart 2/1/11 8:06 PM RT @wmchamberlain: @graingered way too often, even "best practices" are a latest and greatest bandwagon approach #edchat MoodleMcKean 2/1/11 8:06 PM Use of Facebook by Russell Group Universities UK Web Focus http://bit.ly/hJ2bSe #FB #edchat #socialmedia #lrnchat #tlchat #elearning Edu_Traveler 2/1/11 8:06 PM http://edupln.ning.com #edchat @tra_hall info: ning.com..example?

stumpteacher 2/1/11 8:06 PM @wastheword A ton of research points that the best learning happens in groups. http://bit.ly/fJRxcu #edchat

artFling 2/1/11 8:06 PM RT @Wkingbg: Portable Teacher: Teaching vs. Assigning http://ow.ly/1s0wxP #edchat #edadmin gregoryshea 2/1/11 8:06 PM Teacher Tenure Targeted by G.O.P. Governors - http://nyti.ms/i16rK9 #edchat #edreform #education #tenure #teaching drtimony 2/1/11 8:06 PM RT @maryannreilly: essay I wrote, "Dressing the corpse: professional dev. & the play of singularity" #edchat tra_hall 2/1/11 8:06 PM @blairteach I think we will have a very nice visit next week. I hope it isn't 8 degrees and -20 windchill like it was today then #edchat jpk38 2/1/11 8:06 PM RT @krcook_edu: Learning is like rowing upstream: not to advance is to drop back. ~Chinese Proverb #edchat tra_hall 2/1/11 8:07 PM Stealing teachers time so they don't have time for their own learning is like robbing Peter to Pay Paul... and you know what happens #edchat phsprincipal 2/1/11 8:07 PM RT @stumpteacher: Twitter has changed my life: http://bit.ly/aXF9DC #edchat if you are new go here http://bit.ly/fxnHRQ #edchat jlharner 2/1/11 8:07 PM Cool art resource! http://www.googleartproject.com/ #edchat #tlchat todd_beach 2/1/11 8:07 PM RT @gregoryshea: Teacher Tenure Targeted by G.O.P. Governors - http://nyti.ms/i16rK9 #edchat #edreform #education #tenure #teaching afmc4 2/1/11 8:07 PM RT @mbteach: Most of the young tchrs in my building WANT to learn. By the time they reach yr 10 will they? Kind of like our stdnts & school #edchat WackJacq 2/1/11 8:07 PM @mikevigilant Sorry if I was too cynical. I am not usually this bad! :) #edchat vtdeacon 2/1/11 8:07 PM RT @stumpteacher: Twitter has changed my life: http://bit.ly/aXF9DC #edchat if you are new go here http://bit.ly/fxnHRQ #edchat humekaren 2/1/11 8:08 PM How do you think a focus on engagement would change what you do every day? Pls join me Thurs at http://ht.ly/3NyYT. #edchat #tunedout

spedgeek 2/1/11 8:08 PM RT @Philip_Cummings: Amen! RT @cybraryman1: The Ed Camp/Teach Meet formats are great for learners http://bit.ly/atUkDb #edchat tra_hall 2/1/11 8:08 PM too? Thanks for the link #edchat @edu_traveler are you a #hstw person

spedgeek 2/1/11 8:08 PM RT @cybraryman1: The Ed Camp/Teach Meet formats are great for learners http://cybraryman.com/edcamp.html #edchat JohnHudson42 2/1/11 8:09 PM Just downloaded TweetDeck..can't believe how fast #edchat goes by. Tough to read everything AND check the links. How do you find the time? WackJacq 2/1/11 8:09 PM @mbteach. Thank you for moderating #edchat. It was seratonin squirting fun! #edchat drtimony 2/1/11 8:09 PM #TMNJ coming soon! RT @spedgeek: RT @cybraryman1: The Ed Camp/Teach Meet formats are great http://cybraryman.com/edcamp.html #edchat tborash 2/1/11 8:10 PM Senge's 5th Discipline: organizations:: Pink's Drive: individuals. Just a thought, take it for what it's worth. #edchat tra_hall 2/1/11 moderation #edchat 8:10 PM @mbteach @kylepace thanks for the

stevepeha 2/1/11 8:10 PM RT @cohend: High quality PD, real learning, collab, self-directed, might make the diff. b/t my tching career ending sooner v. later #edchat allanalach 2/1/11 8:10 PM RT @bhsprincipal: We need to trust our teachers. How about giving them the 20% time that Google does to do pursue PD in whatever they want? #edchat tra_hall 2/1/11 8:10 PM Enjoyed very much #edchat thanks by in large to @blairteach recommendation of @tweetgrid justwonderinY kind of exhausted. 2/1/11 8:10 PM Two #edchat (s) in one day. I'm

mwyman 2/1/11 8:10 PM Anyone use a "studio" approach in their lab? Ex: Mini-lesson/Intro --> Indep/student choice/inquiry based work time? Curious. Pls RT #edchat PreKlanguages 2/1/11 8:10 PM Android tablet designed for education .http://bit.ly/gXIGtZ #edchat #ELLCHAT #flteach

flavia_matias 2/1/11 8:10 PM What a great conversation! Thanks @kylepace @tomwhitby @lookforsun @tshreve @ICBEU_ISAT @techfacil @usamimi74 @LindaReed @MrsDi #Edchat tomwhitby 2/1/11 8:11 PM #Edchat. Those of you putting out Post recommendations during #Edchat may want to tweet again. Several 1,000's of tweets buried them. tinado 2/1/11 8:11 PM RT @bhsprincipal: We need to trust our teachers. How about giving them the 20% time that Google does to do pursue PD in whatever they want? #edchat lpapplegirl 2/1/11 8:11 PM RT @wastheword: Passion 4 teaching, for students, for your subject--that fierce love of it all--that's the key. Admins come and go. Heart is key. #edchat stevepeha 2/1/11 8:12 PM RT @wastheword: Passion 4 teaching, students, your subject--that fierce love of it all--that's the key. Admins come & go. <3 is key. #edchat kennedyjacque 2/1/11 8:12 PM RT @tomwhitby: @AntLak That is why there is no Education reform without a Reform in the Culture. #Edchat gregoryshea 2/1/11 8:12 PM False allegations affect thousands of teachers every year - Telegraph http://t.co/pOAhGrD #edchat #ukchat #teacherprotection stumpteacher 2/1/11 8:12 PM http://bit.ly/fxnHRQ #edchat My twitter / tweetdeck tutorial

flavia_matias 2/1/11 8:12 PM So many people talking at the same time. Sometimes I get lost :-), but I love it. #Edchat tra_hall 2/1/11 8:12 PM dinner...enjoyed it very much! #edchat Goodnight all....gotta get some

mrami2 2/1/11 8:12 PM Curriculum Units designed by Teachers Institute of Philadelphia http://ow.ly/3Owsw #engchat #edchat bradflickinger 2/1/11 8:13 PM Canada Photo Essay 3rd Grade Project: #edtech #edchat #elearning My 3rd grade students have just finished thei... http://bit.ly/eNQf67 ianchia 2/1/11 8:13 PM RT @tomwhitby: We're watching SM causing democratic revolution in the middle east, yet we question its power to affect change for learning in EDU #Edchat

MoodleMcKean 2/1/11 8:13 PM Adding Facebook & Twitter to student participation The Hotseat BackChannel http://bit.ly/hshSMn #edtech #edchat #SM #elearning #mlearning FrauSusi 2/1/11 8:13 PM RT @lasic: Don't just bash (some) teachers for not being 'passionate, lifelong learners' etc. Ask & try to understand 'why' first. #edchat gregoryshea 2/1/11 8:14 PM Critics say top-rated Chinese education system has a flaw - USATODAY.com http://t.co/3kD57qH #edchat #ntchat #ohreally?? TariqPiracha 2/1/11 8:14 PM RT @davidwees: One idea: Share your ideas with your colleagues freely, even those who are reluctant to share with you. #edchat brophycat 2/1/11 8:14 PM @paulawhite should schools provide teachers with tools to be digital age learners? #edchat amsgoodwin 2/1/11 8:14 PM RT @deb_norton: Clay Yourself! | Hotels.com http://bit.ly/gteqyk This was fun! #edchat #elemchat @myen FrauSusi 2/1/11 8:14 PM Very true! RT @MrsDi: @blairteach Absolutely - relationships, connections, are SO important. How will students connect if WE don't? #edchat mmarotta 2/1/11 8:14 PM Art Project powered by Google Free Technology for Teachers: Art Teachers, amazing http://bit.ly/hnYkhb Tours of 17 famous museums #edchat lpapplegirl 2/1/11 8:14 PM My first #edchat and I enjoyed it immensely. Felt like a kid playing a video game :-) Came up with a few ideas to try at my campus Yeah! beadchick10 2/1/11 8:15 PM RT @bhsprincipal: The biggest problem with PD is similar to our similar to our struggle with our school in general - outdated, stale, boring. #edchat paulawhite 2/1/11 8:15 PM @brophycat ABSOLUTELY... schools provide us with the other tools to do our job, don't they? #edchat lpapplegirl 2/1/11 #edchat experience. 8:15 PM Thank you everyone for a wonderful

TheHelpGroup 2/1/11 8:15 PM RT @mmarotta: Art Project by Google Free Tech 4 Teachers: Art Teachers, amazing http://bit.ly/hnYkhb Tours of 17 famous museums #edchat

francoisbourdon 2/1/11 8:16 PM RT @4thGrdTeach: have other in building teachers teach what they know, more authentic than outside experts #edchat beadchick10 2/1/11 8:16 PM RT @bhsprincipal: If we as educators do not model life-long learning, we can't expect to create students who will be. #edchat FrauSusi 2/1/11 8:16 PM RT @PodPirate: @stumpteacher @erinneo we are not in an upwardly mobile profession, share everything, hide nothing, give credit #edchat nomorebystander 2/1/11 8:16 PM @mariannedavis49 I set aside 20% of my school pd budget for teachers to learn what they want to learn about. It's been interesting.#edchat musikmarc 2/1/11 8:16 PM RT @bhsprincipal: Professional Development is learning and students and staff should have opportunities for this every day. #edchat pamfb7557 2/1/11 8:16 PM Someone tell me what to do, because I am basically old and ignorant, and I will work to make an edcamp happen near us! #edchat Jena_Sherry 2/1/11 8:17 PM that message and sell it. #edchat @bhsprincipal Wow! You could bottle

Blog4Edu 2/1/11 8:17 PM via @conprin Connected Principals Reflections http://bit.ly/fnXbRJ #edchat #cpchat migdalorguy 2/1/11 8:17 PM RT @tktchr #edchat How bout instead of the principal always going to the cool conferences they send teachers and admin subs for them? Yeah. lmsahistory 2/1/11 8:17 PM RT @mrami2: Curriculum Units designed by Teachers Institute of Philadelphia http://ow.ly/3Owsw #engchat #edchat ateachingheart 2/1/11 8:17 PM @dehiggs Thank you! Wow, powerful great ideas/opinions. Next time, I will have a cup of coffee first! :) #edchat ateachingheart 2/1/11 8:17 PM @dehiggs Thank you! Wow, powerful great ideas/opinions. Next time, I will have a cup of coffee first! :) #edchat graingered 2/1/11 8:17 PM @DrTimony @wmchamberlain What the hell duz bazinga mean? #Edchat 2nite all about "passion" & PLN blah blah. #EduKare is attempt twrd action

WackJacq 2/1/11 8:17 PM RT @Mrskmpeters: "if ur community doesn't demand it bc they fly under radar .." <-Can we raise awareness about a need for change? #edchat francoisbourdon 2/1/11 8:17 PM RT @4thGrdTeach: Districts also have to consistently recognize online PD as "real" PD and give hours for it #edchat Sarah_IC 2/1/11 8:17 PM RT @stumpteacher: Twitter has changed my life: http://bit.ly/aXF9DC #edchat if you are new go here http://bit.ly/fxnHRQ #edchat musikmarc 2/1/11 8:17 PM RT @tomwhitby: We can't expect outside the box results ,if we continue to control learning with inside the box methods! #Edchat LearningWR 2/1/11 8:18 PM RT @KTVee: Being a teacher means learning isn't just your business, it's your passion. #edchat #gtchat brophycat 2/1/11 8:18 PM @paulawhite agree; hence questionuntil we ensure evry teachr is connected digital age teacher, how can they b digital age learnr? #edchat WackJacq 2/1/11 8:18 PM @mikevigilant What an incredible opportunity! Great! Let me know if I can ever be helpful out in the twitterverse, ok? #edchat musikmarc 2/1/11 8:18 PM RT @bhsprincipal: We need to trust our teachers. How about giving them the 20% time that Google does to do pursue PD in whatever they want? #edchat ValeraMariscal 2/1/11 8:18 PM RT @rosamariatorres: RT @eduint #Colombia Murder of teacher unionists continues into 2011 http://bit.ly/e4VqzN #education #edchat #educachat vrijnatuurlijk 2/1/11 8:18 PM @tomwhitby I just founded a democratic school mainly by using SM to get the right people together. All it took was 6 months #Edchat WendyGoodman 2/1/11 8:19 PM @Nunavut_Teacher Definitely need admin, but I still think a teacher needs to find their "inner" risk-taker. It's hard for some. #edchat musikmarc 2/1/11 8:19 PM RT @4thGrdTeach: Use staff meetings for PD, leave "housekeeping" to email #edchat averyteach 2/1/11 8:19 PM RT @blairteach: @kylepace Lifelong learners are insatiably curious & often early adopters. #edchat

musikmarc 2/1/11 8:19 PM RT @ScottElias: It's more than just talk. If u want innovation in your building, teachers have to trust that bldg leadership supports risk-taking. #edchat francoisbourdon 2/1/11 8:19 PM RT @4thGrdTeach Tech Tuesdays where people can come and learn new tech stuff once a month #edchat //We do it weekly in @iClasse = #macMidis mrarakaki 2/1/11 8:20 PM RT @stumpteacher: My twitter / tweetdeck tutorial http://bit.ly/fxnHRQ #edchat FrauSusi 2/1/11 8:20 PM RT @mbteach: it seems that to make lifelong learners, we need to let tchrs decide their learning path & provide time for reflection #edchat WackJacq 2/1/11 8:20 PM RT @ShellTerrell: Connected Principals Reflections http://bit.ly/fnXbRJ #edchat Jena_Sherry 2/1/11 8:20 PM @usamimi74 We've been saying that for years. We'd conduct PD for FREE rather than sit thru some boring crap. #edchat TeachersMatter 2/1/11 8:20 PM RT @bhsprincipal: We need to trust our teachers. How about giving them the 20% time that Google does to do pursue PD in whatever they want? #edchat readingteachsu 2/1/11 8:21 PM RT @TheHomeworkDog: Characteristic of a life long learner - Curiosity. #edchat paulawhite 2/1/11 8:21 PM @brophycat what happens when tools are provided and person refuses/chooses not to use them to connect? #edchat musikmarc 2/1/11 8:22 PM RT @4thGrdTeach: Since when was it bad to compliment teachers on things they are good at?Compliment and ask them to share #edchat readingteachsu 2/1/11 8:22 PM often as important as learning. #edchat RT @krcook_edu: Unlearning is

Phantom_Orchid 2/1/11 8:23 PM Students published the newspaper online today, they would love any feedback! Thx! #edchat #engchat http://voxjuvenis.wordpress.com/ ryanmcclintock 2/1/11 8:23 PM RT @ScottElias: It's more than just talk. If u want innovation in your building, teachers have to trust that bldg leadership supports risk-taking. #edchat

mbcampbell360 2/1/11 8:23 PM Is having every tchr teach w tech really goal to strive for? I had many tchrs who probably couldn't work a phone that were amazing #edchat so_you_know 2/1/11 8:24 PM RT @edu_traveler: True RT @tomwhitby: We cant expect outside the box results ,if we control learning with inside the box methods! #edchat Jena_Sherry 2/1/11 8:25 PM @bhsprincipal Sorry...reading thru #edchat backwards. The 20% time 4 tchrs like Google...message. Mollybmom 2/1/11 8:26 PM @mbcampbell360 I agree tech 4 tech sake is not the goal. great teaching that inspires learning is the goal. #edchat EllBillofRights 2/1/11 8:26 PM #edchat In our globally connected world, it is no longer acceptable for teachers to teach the way they were taught. #ellchat dlaufenberg 2/1/11 8:26 PM RT @samchaltain: Let's End the Battle of the Edu-Tribes http://huff.to/eSWmmv @uopx via @huffingtonpost #EduCon #edreform #edchat butwait 2/1/11 8:27 PM RT @kylepace Lifelong learners are insatiably curious & often early adopters. #edchat mbcampbell360 2/1/11 8:27 PM @Mollybmom If that is so (and I agree w you), why does it seem that 90% of message here is tech based? #edchat atkauffman 2/1/11 8:27 PM RT @cybraryman1: "The illiterate of the 21st century will not be those who cannot read and write, but those who cannot learn, unlearn, and relearn. " #edchat AntLak 2/1/11 8:28 PM @tomwhitby We are beginning to see some progress in the culture of our district. It needs to start with the Ed Leaders ie:Principals #Edchat JeremyLittau 2/1/11 8:28 PM That's my experience || RT @butwait: RT @kylepace Lifelong learners are insatiably curious & often early adopters. #edchat musikmarc 2/1/11 8:28 PM RT @techfacil: How 'bout no more groundings, 'wrap ups, gallery walks, and sit-and-listen-then-think-pair-share in PD? Makes me feel 5 years old. #edchat sierrasez 2/1/11 8:28 PM RT @bhsprincipal: RT @tomwhitby: We're watching SM cause a revolution in the middle east, yet we question its power to affect change in EDU #Edchat

VoicesChornobyl 2/1/11 8:29 PM #Challenge : describe Hiroshima & Nagasaki in the context of #Chernobyl to 9 yr-olds. And....go! #amwriting #edchat cindymariej 2/1/11 8:29 PM #Challenge : describe Hiroshima & Nagasaki in the context of #Chernobyl to 9 yr-olds. And....go! #amwriting #edchat Mollybmom 2/1/11 8:29 PM @mbcampbell360 I believe tech supports, enhances, & differentiates good teaching. Goal is 4 all 2 access learning. #edchat mrbzo 2/1/11 8:29 PM What's for Dinner 2 & Electric Box 2 added to Logic & Careers: http://tiny.cc/zdief via @Candystand: #elemchat #ntchat #edchat mbcampbell360 2/1/11 8:30 PM @Mollybmom Perhaps, but in many cases it becomes a barrier to the very thing we try to use it for. The lesson becomes about the tech #edchat briankotts 2/1/11 8:30 PM Student Suspended for Calling Teacher Fat on Facebook http://on.mash.to/eTL5bt /via @Mashable #edchat #edtech KTVee 2/1/11 8:30 PM grt teaching does not mean u r the best, it means u admit there is always a btr way out there & u r constantly striving for it #edchat

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cybraryman1 1/25/11 11:59 AM My wife who is driving while I chat says businesses have to step up to the plate & support Ed financially & with their ideas #edchat web20education 1/25/11 11:59 AM Today topic ,, What is impact on edu considering fact that many new leaders of #edreform are from business & not edu? " tweet using #edchat juandoming 1/25/11 12:00 PM El aprendizaje fuera de las aulas: 10 cosas que no se pueden olvidar http://t.co/wsOiLJh #juandon #elearning #educacion #edchat JenVonId 1/25/11 12:00 PM #edchat One of the issues is they think schools can be run like a business, however schools and business are truly different entities

MissCheska 1/25/11 12:00 PM Jumping in on #edchat for a few! Missed these chats! Topic: What's the impact on edu considering new ed reform leaders are from biz not ed? web20education 1/25/11 12:00 PM I like today topic and for this reason next hour my tweets are dedicated to worldwide collaboration using #edchat DreamBox_Learn 1/25/11 12:00 PM Tuesday Teacher Tip: Using the Open Number Line http://www.dreambox.com/blog/using-the-open-numberline #edchat #edtech #mathchat rliberni 1/25/11 12:00 PM Welcome to #edchat myself and @cybrayman1 will be your moderators today pls ask if you have any probs cybraryman1 1/25/11 12:00 PM What is the impact on education considering the fact that many new leaders of ed reform are from business & not education? #edchat ShellTerrell 1/25/11 12:01 PM RT @cybraryman1: My wife who is driving while I chat says businesses have to step up to the plate & support Ed financially & with their ideas #edchat bruno_cesar82 1/25/11 12:01 PM What is the impact on education considering the fact that many new leaders of ed reform are from business & not education? #edchat ShellTerrell 1/25/11 12:01 PM RT @bruno_cesar82: my tweets for the next hour will be dedicated to #edchat MissCheska 1/25/11 12:01 PM @JenVonId Good point. I think we can learn from biz tactics, but must understand we work with a more dynamic entity #edchat davidwees 1/25/11 12:01 PM One immediate question I have about this issue. Who leads other professions? Do doctors lead the medical profession? #edchat ShellTerrell 1/25/11 12:01 PM RT @cybraryman1: What is the impact on education considering the fact that many new leaders of ed reform are from business & not education? #edchat Andreseheredia 1/25/11 12:01 PM RT @juandoming: Arendizaje fuera de las aulas: 10 cosas que no se pueden olvidar http://shar.es/3aNA2 #juandon #elearning #educacion #edchat davidwees 1/25/11 12:02 PM Businesses have shown themselves to be often uncaring, and lacking empathy b/c focus on bottom line. We want this for schools? #edchat

rliberni 1/25/11 12:02 PM RT @cybraryman1: What is the impact on education considering the fact that many new leaders of ed reform are from business & not education? #edchat FIEDBA 1/25/11 12:03 PM El aprendizaje fuera de las aulas: 10 cosas que no se pueden olvidar http://t.co/wsOiLJh #elearning #educacion #edchat (v-a @juandoming) tkraz 1/25/11 12:03 PM @davidwees Unfortunately, in some cases we already have this for schools. #edchat RobertSAllen1 1/25/11 12:03 PM RT @informed_edu: @davidwees dangerous to generalise about any group of people or organisations - business is no exception I think #edchat NetspeedHosting 1/25/11 12:03 PM Want to start a blog?Start your blog today! Get everything your need here for only $3.99 a month!http://bit.ly/nshin #edchat #ukedchat davidwees 1/25/11 12:03 PM @informed_edu Fair enough. Find me some businesses which care more about their "customers" than making money. #edchat rliberni 1/25/11 12:03 PM RT @davidwees: One immediate question I have about this issue. Who leads other professions? Do doctors lead the medical profession? #edchat symphily 1/25/11 12:03 PM Better learning through handwriting? http://bit.ly/gYUrlB [ #lingua #edchat #edreform #edtech #cogsci #education ] ian23505 1/25/11 12:03 PM I think there is room for growth but applying strategies from the business world wholesale is a recipe for disaster. #edchat informed_edu 1/25/11 12:03 PM @davidwees dangerous to generalise about any group of people or organisations - business is no exception I think #edchat ImagineLearning 1/25/11 12:03 PM RT @ShellTerrell: Pls join us in 15min. #Edchat What is impact on edu considering fact that many new leaders of ed reform are from business & not edu? #edchat PLANETPALS 1/25/11 12:03 PM Indiana Envirothon Thanks for including Planetpaks.com as resource in 2011 Envirothon Contest Booklet! #edchat #elemchat #teachertueday rliberni 1/25/11 Can this work? #edchat 12:03 PM What is the interface btwn biz and ed?

cybraryman1 1/25/11 12:03 PM RT @JenVonId:One of the issues is they think schools can be run like a business, however schools and business are truly different #edchat k_shelton 1/25/11 businesses. #edchat 12:04 PM RT @fliegs: Schools are not

delta_dc 1/25/11 12:04 PM an apprentice teacher @lisahassberger makes the connection between swim lessons and teaching math http://t.co/OAOsgGJ #ed331 #edchat fliegs 1/25/11 12:04 PM Children are not products. #edchat

jpsteltz 1/25/11 12:04 PM @cybraryman1 we need to invite them into our 'workshops'...give them the 'lay of the land' #edchat fliegs 1/25/11 12:04 PM Schools are not businesses. #edchat

rliberni 1/25/11 12:04 PM @davidwees I think modern busines has lost some of that uncaring culture #edchat mbaprogrms 1/25/11 12:04 PM Educators and Business Leaders have diff ways of approaching education-- Business leaders may not have effective educating methods #edchat ShellTerrell 1/25/11 12:04 PM RT @biscotte: #edchat impact is major. I live wth it everyd and its frustrating coz they dont know NMHS_Principal 1/25/11 12:04 PM Sheet http://bit.ly/gH6dfD #edchat State of the Union Edu-Cheat

k_shelton 1/25/11 12:04 PM @davidwees great question I have yet to see answered by the ed reform folks. #edchat ian23505 1/25/11 12:04 PM @davidwees We do have a bottom line, but the methods by which we achieve our bottom line are very different. #edchat cybraryman1 1/25/11 page with us? #edchat 12:04 PM How can we get businesses on same

rliberni 1/25/11 12:05 PM RT @fliegs: Schools are not businesses. Their structure can be similar maybe? #edchat MissCheska 1/25/11 12:05 PM @cybraryman1 Perhaps we can invite local business into partnerships, ie. student internships, academic sponsors #edchat

edutopiahubert 1/25/11 12:05 PM School and business are should similar... they must be socially accountable . #edchat ImagineLearning 1/25/11 12:05 PM @ian23505 Interesting. Do you think it's the structure, the objectives, or the values that make the two worlds conflict? #edchat stumpteacher 1/25/11 customer. #edchat 12:05 PM RT @fliegs: Parents are not our

jpsteltz 1/25/11 12:05 PM Are we talking about preparing students for business or business influencing/running education? #edchat stumpteacher 1/25/11 #edchat 12:05 PM RT @fliegs: Children are not products.

mbaprogrms 1/25/11 12:05 PM The methods businesses have may not work for the classroom-- however, they are good leaders, so maybe we could focus on that? #edchat fliegs 1/25/11 12:05 PM RT @davidwees: Businesses have shown themselves to be often uncaring, and lacking empathy b/c focus on bottom line. We want this for schools? #edchat davidwees 1/25/11 12:05 PM @rliberni If that were really true we wouldn't see our absolute income as a society be the lowest it's been in 30 years. #edchat rliberni 1/25/11 12:05 PM The biggest issue is that businesses 1st resp is to their shareholders can this b compatible with edu? #edchat schoolsEDU 1/25/11 12:05 PM Bus profs drive students to be more 'money-minded' whereas those who study education encourage creativity, originality, thinking #edchat web20education 1/25/11 12:05 PM worldwide are many antreprenors who aren't educators but who said that they bring #edreform in education, BUT I'M NOT AGREE #edchat rdlln 1/25/11 12:05 PM Problem is bus. is driven by comp. with the goal being profit. Education is driven by collaboration with the goal being knowledge. #edchat fliegs 1/25/11 k_shelton #edchat 12:05 PM Parents are not our customer. #edchat RT @fliegs: Children are not products.

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rliberni 1/25/11 12:06 PM @k_shelton I think the way we move children thru school sometimes makes them seem like products #edchat tonnet 1/25/11 12:06 PM and ed? Can this work? #edchat RT @rliberni: What is the interface btwn biz

kimyaris 1/25/11 12:06 PM RT @GaryBrannigan: Join my mailing list for Blog, "Reading & Other Learning Disabilities," updates at http://reading2008.com #edchat pesky 1/25/11 12:06 PM RT @fliegs: Parents are not our customer. #edchat BUT schools are not teaching! cybraryman1 1/25/11 12:06 PM RT @jpsteltz: @cybraryman1 we need to invite them into our workshops...give them the lay of the land #edchat ImagineLearning 1/25/11 12:06 PM RT @MissCheska: @cybraryman1 Perhaps we can invite local business into partnerships, ie. student internships, academic sponsors #edchat ian23505 1/25/11 12:06 PM @fliegs Not being flip. What are they then? How do you view the school parent dynamic? #edchat MissCheska 1/25/11 12:06 PM RT @rdlln: Problem is bus. is driven by comp. with the goal being profit. Education is driven by collaboration with the goal being knowledge. #edchat mbaprogrms 1/25/11 12:06 PM Great point! RT @k_shelton: RT @fliegs: Schools are not businesses. #edchat fliegs 1/25/11 12:07 PM @pesky What does that mean? Of course we are teaching and there is enormous learning going on. #edchat mbaprogrms 1/25/11 12:07 PM Educators and businesses can learn from each other-- that it's not always about money; a teacher needs to be an effective leader #edchat Sprtrmpcnsltng 1/25/11 12:07 PM RT @edReformer: Wise: The teaching roll changes, not the teaching with a blended model #edreform #unbound #edchat MissCheska 1/25/11 12:07 PM @schoolsEDU I'm not sure entirely about that. I have biz teachers who stress edu, creativity, original thinking too #edchat jdulrich76 1/25/11 12:07 PM RT @NMHS_Principal: State of the Union Edu-Cheat Sheet http://bit.ly/gH6dfD #edchat #iowa1to1

JenVonId 1/25/11 12:07 PM Bus. leadrs dont C how things benefit students, just the bottom line, which is important yet they have no clue abt kids & learning #edchat rodaniel 1/25/11 12:07 PM Proficiency Eludes U.S. Students on Science NAEP: http://bit.ly/hEutKY #science #edchat #mathchat cybraryman1 1/25/11 12:07 PM RT @mbaprogrms: Great point! RT @k_shelton: RT @fliegs: Schools are not businesses. #edchat rliberni 1/25/11 12:07 PM @davidwees does a business structure have to be about profits? Maybe we can take the good & leave the bad? #edchat juandoming 1/25/11 12:07 PM RT @rliberni: RT @fliegs: Schools are not businesses. Their structure can be similar maybe? #edchat WSDTechInfo 1/25/11 http://bit.ly/8LXuMB 12:07 PM Participate in this week's #edchat

cybraryman1 1/25/11 12:07 PM Need more school business partnerships like Open Doors http://cybraryman.com/careerssubjects.html #edchat fliegs 1/25/11 12:07 PM @rliberni There are some lessons to be learned from business, but business exists only to make money. Schools are here to help kids #edchat jbrogley 1/25/11 12:07 PM belt...automated...blech. #edchat @rliberni Products on a conveyer

symphily 1/25/11 12:07 PM Student homelessness at all-time high in Washington state - http://bit.ly/grGLfJ [ #edchat #sociology #poverty ] jdulrich76 1/25/11 12:07 PM RT @NMHS_Principal: State of the Union Edu-Cheat Sheet http://bit.ly/gH6dfD #edchat rdlln 1/25/11 12:07 PM That's not to say that many successful businesses don't employ collaboration or that many successful students aren't driven by comp. #edchat deb_norton 1/25/11 12:07 PM http://bit.ly/ftOv7O Sharing You Tube videos with your students. Easy downloader! #edchat #elemchat ImagineLearning 1/25/11 12:08 PM @pesky Who is the customer? The students of course, but are their tiers of customers to satisfy? Political leaders maybe? #edchat

CCCVideo 1/25/11 12:08 PM Amid economic uncertainty, ed-tech leaders do more with less from @eclassroomnews http://ow.ly/3JQyM #edtech #edchat #elearning rliberni 1/25/11 12:08 PM @fliegs could we use 'business' model for things like buildings, maintainence etc.. and a diff model for the edu side? #edchat jbrogley 1/25/11 12:08 PM as if it were the industrial era. #edchat @k_shelton Yes, we are still educating

fliegs 1/25/11 12:08 PM @k_shelton I agree that schools and parents need to work together. Parents are our partners. #edchat informed_edu 1/25/11 12:08 PM @davidwees If you get business people focusing on long-term outcomes for students, it would drive better change. #edchat bruno_cesar82 1/25/11 12:08 PM #edchat the school is where sts first see the world of businesses and economics and competition. edutopiahubert 1/25/11 12:08 PM We can integrate a entrepreneurship model for education. http://bit.ly/eKKE9M #edchat k_shelton 1/25/11 12:08 PM @rliberni students are treated like an assembly line now. Move em on, with same process regardless of uniqueness etc. #edchat RHDugger 1/25/11 12:08 PM RT @sbenglin: Englin tells it like it is re: education funding and investing in human capital: http://ow.ly/3JX9X #edchat #educationnation cybraryman1 1/25/11 12:08 PM @MissCheska @cybraryman1See Open Doors http://cybraryman.com/careerssubjects.html #edchat mbaprogrms 1/25/11 12:08 PM RT @cybraryman1: Need more school business partnerships like Open Doors http://cybraryman.com/careerssubjects.html #edchat UWS_CAPD 1/25/11 12:08 PM RT @web20education: Social Learning Handbook A practical guide to using social media to work and learn smarter VIA @C4LPT http://bitly.net/fHnFYN #edchat CTuckerEnglish 1/25/11 12:08 PM Not surprising that a push for evaluation of teachers, and now credential programs, would come from business minded individuals. #edchat

schoolsEDU 1/25/11 12:08 PM RT @rmart73 @schoolsEDU the impact is that it gets out of "theory" teaching and teaches real experience. #edchat davidwees 1/25/11 12:09 PM @informed_edu We don't need a innovation in education. We need to start using what we know works. http://is.gd/GJKxy5 #edchat fliegs 1/25/11 12:09 PM @rliberni Again, we can learn some things from a business model in terms of non-learning areas, but our bottom lines are incompati #edchat CTuckerEnglish 1/25/11 12:09 PM Performance and pay tend to go hand-in-hand in business world so incentive programs and merit pay are reminiscent of business model #edchat web20education 1/25/11 12:09 PM Now every teacher can use free edtools and apps in education in XXI century to develop students creativity and skills . They have #edchat rliberni 1/25/11 12:09 PM @jbrogley I agree but 'value added' is a manufacturing term & STs suggest this #edchat jbrogley 1/25/11 12:09 PM techniques to sell my lessons. #edchat @tkraz I think so. I've used marketing

ian23505 1/25/11 12:09 PM @ImagineLearning the difference is the product. Building a high quality vehicle and producing engaged citizens, different games. #edchat shawdave 1/25/11 12:09 PM Anyone have a good learning styles inventory survey for high school students? Care to share? #edchat #musedchat #musiced #edtech MissCheska 1/25/11 12:09 PM @rliberni Realistically whr will ths businesses gather their workforce? Edu is every1's best interest #edchat tkraz 1/25/11 12:09 PM Is there some connection btwn a business selling a product and teachers selling ideas/content? #edchat CoachCrawford 1/25/11 12:09 PM RT @NMHS_Principal: State of the Union Edu-Cheat Sheet http://bit.ly/gH6dfD #edchat edutopiahubert 1/25/11 12:10 PM Coming from a nonprofit and business background I see synergy from both to create change in education. #edchat

pesky 1/25/11 12:10 PM RT @edReformer: Vander Ark: National School Choice Week- choice of lesson level through personalized learning #onlinelearning #edchat mbaprogrms 1/25/11 12:10 PM @tkraz It's similar-- you're trying to educate or pitch an idea to people/students in hopes they'll understand/buy it #edchat ian23505 1/25/11 12:10 PM @k_shelton @fliegs So are there useful parallels between school/parent and business/customer dynamics? #edchat informed_edu 1/25/11 12:10 PM If schools+business had incentives to produce rounded,competent,happy adults they could work together. Focus on exams only=wrong #edchat cybraryman1 1/25/11 12:10 PM RT @mbaprogrms: Educ and bus can learn from each other- that its not always about money; a teacher needs to be an effective leader #edchat rliberni 1/25/11 12:10 PM RT @tkraz: Is there some connection btwn a business selling a product and teachers selling ideas/content? #edchat slaleman 1/25/11 12:10 PM even business doesn't use the business model anymore...look at Google #edchat rdlln 1/25/11 12:10 PM The question is how do we get these corp. leaders to embrace a culture of learning that is alien to them? #edchat davidwees 1/25/11 12:10 PM @informed_edu How are the business people going to measure the effectiveness of their interventions? #edchat k_shelton 1/25/11 12:10 PM @rliberni Classrooms tend to be structured like an Educational Assembly line. Desks, chairs in rows, etc. #edchat MissCheska 1/25/11 12:10 PM -- that's a great idea #edchat @cybraryman1 "Community Helpers"

jpsteltz 1/25/11 12:10 PM RT @CTuckerEnglish: Performance and pay tend to go hand-in-hand in business world so incentive programs and merit pay are reminiscent of business model #edchat jpsteltz 1/25/11 12:10 PM RT @fliegs: @rliberni Again, we can learn some things from a business model in terms of non-learning areas, but our bottom lines are incompati #edchat rliberni 1/25/11 12:11 PM RT @SErwin: @cybraryman1 @mbaprogrms @k_shelton @fliegs some aspects of school would benefit from biz principals #edchat

rliberni 1/25/11 12:11 PM @k_shelton I agree absolutely we need a new model - not all businesses are run the same way #edchat cybraryman1 1/25/11 12:11 PM RT @fliegs: @rliberni we can learn some things from a bus model in terms of non-learning areas, but our bottom lines are incompati #edchat k_shelton 1/25/11 12:11 PM @SErwin @cybraryman1 @mbaprogrms @fliegs Such as? #edchat fliegs 1/25/11 12:11 PM @ImagineLearning The students are not our customers. We do not have customers. We are not in selling. jpsteltz 1/25/11 12:11 PM RT @jbrogley: I still think we stand to learn from business when it comes to innovative thinking. Businesses either master that or die. #edchat informed_edu 1/25/11 12:11 PM @davidwees I think we need constant innovation. We must be learning and creating constantly, as we expect from students #edchat fliegs 1/25/11 12:11 PM @ian23505 Yes. There are many customer service skills and behaviors that are very useful for schools. #edchat ImagineLearning 1/25/11 12:11 PM RT @ian23505: @ImagineLearning the difference is the product. Building a high quality vehicle and producing engaged citizens, different games. #edchat schoolsEDU 1/25/11 12:11 PM RT @mbaprogrms: Educ and bus can learn from each other- that its not always about money; a teacher needs to be an effective leader #edchat k_shelton 1/25/11 12:11 PM @ian23505 @fliegs I would say there are some useful parallels, but the core goal is vastly different. #edchat jbrogley 1/25/11 12:11 PM I still think we stand to learn from business when it comes to innovative thinking. Businesses either master that or die. #edchat lisalearner topic? 1/25/11 12:11 PM just joining--what's today's #edchat

hackhighschool 1/25/11 12:11 PM #edchat We inherit all the weaknesses of bus, usu ignorantly applied to ed. Potential advantag: new POV, maybe practical edu not theoretical davidwees 1/25/11 12:11 PM @informed_edu So you mean, look at the impact of education as a whole on society over a long period of time? That I agree with. #edchat

SErwin 1/25/11 12:11 PM @cybraryman1 @mbaprogrms @k_shelton @fliegs some aspects of school would benefit from biz principals #edchat cybraryman1 1/25/11 12:12 PM @SErwin @cybraryman1 @mbaprogrms @k_shelton @fliegs We can learn from each other #edchat MarkRiffey 1/25/11 12:12 PM MT @JenVonId: Bus. leadrs dont C how things benefit stdnts, just btm line yet have no clue abt kids & lrning #edchat (Broad brush ya think?) jpsteltz 1/25/11 12:12 PM Edu could learn from marketing techniques used in business #edchat Our profession is NOT marketed well jbrogley 1/25/11 12:12 PM @davidwees we buy more software or some other program w/o actually changing the way we operate. #edchat informed_edu 1/25/11 12:12 PM @davidwees Yes Long term impact is good. Education focuses on short-term. We need '10-year survival rates' http://ow.ly/3JXjN #edchat TeachTCI 1/25/11 12:12 PM RT @mpowers3: Have U downloaded ur #SOTU activity sheet yet? Gr8 way to keep kids engaged tonight. http://bit.ly/garu4d #edchat #education fliegs 1/25/11 12:12 PM @mbaprogrms I used to agree that sales and teaching are similar. Some similar skills used, but totally different goal. fliegs 1/25/11 12:12 PM specifically? #edchat @rliberni What aspects of school,

scyuen 1/25/11 12:12 PM RT @MoodleMcKean: Apps-School - The Best Apps for Education http://bit.ly/f1cQG5 #edapp #mlearning #edchat #lrnchat #tlchat #iPad #iPod #elearning #apps #pgce ericjuli1/25/11 12:12 PM Lots to learn from business-but the current dialogue focuses on management only-not teaching & learning-These are not synonymous #edchat davidwees 1/25/11 12:12 PM @informed_edu ...but most of these new programs get scrapped or neglected. #edchat rliberni 1/25/11 12:12 PM When we think 'business' r we thinking large corporations? There are lots of models #edchat worldoflearning 1/25/11 12:12 PM RT @DigLearningNow: This is National School Choice week. We can now look at choice to the lesson level! #unbound #edreform #edchat

davidwees 1/25/11 12:12 PM @informed_edu Schools are constantly innovating. What they aren't doing is innovating effectively. We try program after program... #edchat Teachhub 1/25/11 12:12 PM RT @shawdave: Anyone have a good learning styles inventory survey for high school students? Care to share? #edchat ... http://tmi.me/5VC8d ian23505 1/25/11 12:12 PM @davidwees Profit is how they measure. To me a much simpler metric than student growth and development. #edchat CTuckerEnglish 1/25/11 12:13 PM If students = customers, then they should have a voice in the evaluation process. Shouldn't they? #edchat Smichael920 1/25/11 12:13 PM #edchat @SirKenRobinson talks about age grouping as factory model 'date of manufacture' still the prevalent model in our schools tkraz 1/25/11 12:13 PM @ian23505 @ImagineLearning I think they are similar - the car is the idea that is being sold to the customer/student. #edchat informed_edu 1/25/11 12:13 PM @davidwees If we learned from our mistakes we would innovate better, but we shouldn't stop innovating. #edchat edutopiahubert 1/25/11 12:13 PM I think ed and bus needs each other... "America's high schools are obsolete," Bill Gates. http://bit.ly/fMlM30 #edchat jbrogley 1/25/11 12:13 PM @jpsteltz Yes, actually schools don't "market" at all. We just settle for the way things r. How long would that business last today? #edchat daveandcori 1/25/11 12:13 PM I've gotten support from some local businesses in terms of guest visitors, tours.we get donations of older furniture and equipment. #edchat michellek107 1/25/11 12:13 PM There are no profit margins in edu. People who cannot think past this mentality have no understanding of education. #edchat davidwees 1/25/11 12:13 PM @informed_edu Some innovation in schools is necessary, agree with that. We also need educators to use what research shows works. #edchat

cybraryman1 1/25/11 12:13 PM RT @rliberni: @k_shelton I agree absolutely we need a new model - not all businesses are run the same way #edchat ian23505 1/25/11 12:13 PM @k_shelton I don't know if I think the core goals are all that different. I think it is how we get to the goal that is incompatible. #edchat k_shelton 1/25/11 12:13 PM @rliberni Exactly!! There are lots of models. Yet schools pretty much have 1 model. With little room for differentiation. #edchat bruno_cesar82 1/25/11 12:13 PM #edchat like in business minds, money cannot be the first goal in education. Never! rliberni 1/25/11 monetary? #edchat 12:13 PM @jpsteltz does bottom line have to be

JenVonId 1/25/11 12:13 PM #edchat so do we measure test scores as profit? Or does more go into what would b profit in schools? mbaprogrms 1/25/11 12:13 PM Innovative thinking-- educators and businesses need to be constantly doing this to be effective to their students and customers #edchat MissCheska 1/25/11 12:13 PM RT @mbaprogrms: Educators and businesses can learn from each other-- that it's not always about money; a teacher needs to be an effective leader #edchat rliberni 1/25/11 12:14 PM @mbaprogrms yes but they are funded by public money so there has to be accountability #edchat thechalkface 1/25/11 12:14 PM What if we treated doctors the way we treated teachers? http://huff.to/hwRcSS #edchat #education #edreform ericjuli1/25/11 12:14 PM We can learn from business model that students need skills for workforce more than they need discrete content #edchat lisalearner 1/25/11 12:14 PM @fliegs @ImagineLearning I agree we're not selling anything, but isn't the goal: meet stdnt needs? That makes sdnts our customer. #edchat WeAreTeachers 1/25/11 12:14 PM RT @cybraryman1: Need more school business partnerships like Open Doors http://cybraryman.com/careerssubjects.html #edchat slaleman 1/25/11 12:14 PM RT @CTuckerEnglish: If students = customers, then they should have a voice in the evaluation process. Shouldn't they? #edchat

garnicanikki82 1/25/11 12:14 PM RT @TeachTCI: RT @mpowers3: Have U downloaded ur #SOTU activity sheet yet? Gr8 way to keep kids engaged tonight. http://bit.ly/garu4d #edchat #education web20education 1/25/11 12:14 PM Jolicloud, The Web of tomorrow today is free for everyoane http://web20ineducation2010.ning.com/video/jolicloud-the-web-of-tomorrow #edchat shawdave 1/25/11 12:14 PM becomes Burger King.... #edchat if students = customers the school

SErwin 1/25/11 12:14 PM Students pay private entities to take online classes. Why are school dist not offering them? #edchat cybraryman1 1/25/11 12:14 PM RT @bruno_cesar82: #edchat like in business minds, money cannot be the first goal in education. Never! #edchat rdlln 1/25/11 12:14 PM I think all leaders should have to serve some time in the trenches, however brief. The most successful ceos blt comp from ground up. #edchat informed_edu 1/25/11 12:14 PM @davidwees Yes! evidence and research is key. Educators don't have access to long-term stats now - this must be fixed #edchat rliberni 1/25/11 12:14 PM RT @davidwees: @informed_edu "10 year survival rates" are an excellent idea. We'd need to stop the 4 year cycle of politicians running schools. #edchat JenVonId 1/25/11 12:14 PM RT @CTuckerEnglish: If students = customers, then they should have a voice in the evaluation process. Shouldn't they? #edchat I agree! schoolsEDU 1/25/11 12:14 PM RT @mbaprogrms: educators and businesses need to be constantly doing this to be effective to their students and customers #edchat Brian_ThomasTCI 1/25/11 12:14 PM RT @TeachTCI: RT @mpowers3: Have U downloaded ur #SOTU activity sheet yet? Gr8 way to keep kids engaged tonight. http://bit.ly/garu4d #edchat #education mathhombre 1/25/11 12:14 PM RT @delta_dc: an apprentice teacher @lisahassberger makes the connection between swim lessons and teaching math http://t.co/OAOsgGJ #ed331 #edchat

mbaprogrms 1/25/11 12:14 PM @fliegs Exactly! I think business ed reformers need to remember that schools are for learning, not about money #edchat HMHFuse 1/25/11 12:14 PM From @eschoolnews: Amid economic uncertainty, #edtech leaders do more with less - http://bit.ly/dS8pPe #edchat davidwees 1/25/11 12:14 PM @informed_edu "10 year survival rates" are an excellent idea. We'd need to stop the 4 year cycle of politicians running schools. #edchat daveandcori 1/25/11 12:15 PM Another place to look for support is area colleges - we get a lot of support from some near us with programs, tutors, etc. #edchat rliberni 1/25/11 12:15 PM RT @jpsteltz: @rliberni i believe the bottom line is more about experiences #edchat not money rdlln 1/25/11 12:15 PM How do you put someone in charge of an entire school system when they haven't set foot in a school (prior to appt.) in decades? #edchat informed_edu 1/25/11 12:15 PM @davidwees Yes, I was talking to @drtimony about this. We need access to understandable research. I want to do a study on this #edchat ian23505 1/25/11 12:15 PM RT @JenVonId: RT @CTuckerEnglish: If students = customers, then they should have a voice in the evaluation process. Shouldn't they? #edchat ToddAHoffman 1/25/11 12:15 PM Thank @allisonberryhil @lookforsun @tomwhitby @lcarroll94 @davidwees @suzruns2 and @coryroush for the blog RT's and advice #edchat rliberni #edchat 1/25/11 12:15 PM @thechalkface in the UK we do I think

davidwees 1/25/11 12:15 PM @informed_edu Too much of educational research is locked up in proprietary databases and goes unused. #edchat tkraz 1/25/11 12:15 PM @ian23505 @ImagineLearning an engaged customer is similar to an engaged student - they both "buy" the idea #edchat jpsteltz 1/25/11 12:15 PM @rliberni i believe the bottom line is more about experiences #edchat not money pesky 1/25/11 12:15 PM @tvanderark - don't apply textbook adoption policies to digital content #unbound #edreform #edtech #edchat

fliegs 1/25/11 12:15 PM @CTuckerEnglish Students do not equal customers. They should have a voice in many aspects of school. They are not customers, though. #edchat davidwees 1/25/11 12:15 PM @informed_edu I also think that educators need more access to educational research. #edchat jpsteltz 1/25/11 12:16 PM aren't schools the feeder systems for business?? #edchat if so, then business MUST invest in education juandoming 1/25/11 12:16 PM http://ilearntechnology.com/?p=3572 Como introducir las #TIC en una Aula y gestionarla? #juandon #education #elearning #edchat ian23505 1/25/11 12:16 PM @tkraz Agreed. Businesses and schools are trying to engage an audience. Again the means are different, but goals are the same. #edchat SErwin 1/25/11 12:16 PM consumers (students) want. #edchat Think like biz in 1 aspect, offer what

schoolsEDU 1/25/11 12:16 PM @jpsteltz @rliberni I definitely learned more from experience, but classes were a lot about practicing basic fundamentals. #edchat stumpteacher 1/25/11 12:16 PM Agreed! RT @CTuckerEnglish: If students = customers, then they should have a voice in the evaluation process. Shouldn't they? #edchat pesky 1/25/11 12:16 PM Gov Wise, @tvanderark & D. Finn at @Worldoflearning digital learning summit - Rock stars #unbound #onlinelearning #edchat fliegs 1/25/11 12:16 PM RT @mbaprogrms: @fliegs Exactly! I think business ed reformers need to remember that schools are for learning, not about money #edchat rliberni 1/25/11 12:16 PM @jpsteltz the bottom line could be this I agree it's time to think new structures #edchat lisalearner 1/25/11 12:16 PM @shawdave haha--just becuz stdnt=customer doesn't mean stdnt=ultimate decision-maker :) #edchat mbaprogrms 1/25/11 12:16 PM Effective and innovative thinking/leadership on behalf of bus ed reformers are essential to educators and a breakthrough in edu #edchat

JenVonId 1/25/11 12:16 PM #edchat Students are the customer when you think about it. They do have the choice to go to a charter if they want now a days fliegs 1/25/11 12:16 PM @lisalearner Meeting their needs does not make them our customers, it makes them our students! #edchat cybraryman1 1/25/11 financially? #edchat 12:16 PM Should businesses invest in schools Who exactly are the "ed-

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JeanneBernish 1/25/11 12:16 PM RT @pesky: @tvanderark don't apply textbook adoption policies to digital content #unbound #edreform #edtech #edchat #education guyblumberg 1/25/11 12:17 PM Academically Adrift : 45% of the nations undergrads learn very little in their first 2 yrs of college http://nyti.ms/g4IM1Z #edchat jonbergmann 1/25/11 12:17 PM We need to partner with bus and they will support schls. Invite them in-We can lrn from bus and them from ed #edchat fliegs 1/25/11 12:17 PM Every an educator used business terms to describe school, we allow the business community more power to control schools. #edchat RobertSAllen1 1/25/11 12:17 PM La innovacin no necesita superhroes http://bit.ly/hM3pMq #edtech #edchat ericjuli1/25/11 12:17 PM Educators need to speak in one voice about learning goals. We do not, so the outcome is hiring managers from outside industry #edchat juandoming 1/25/11 12:17 PM invest in schools financially? #edchat rliberni 1/25/11 product/service #edchat 12:17 PM RT @cybraryman1: Should businesses @rdlln I guess they see edu as the

mbaprogrms 1/25/11 12:17 PM @rdlln True! Business ed reformers need an educator's experience-- that is why they should work with one another #edchat informed_edu 1/25/11 12:17 PM @davidwees we agree on a lot! longtermism and evidence would allow business to be involved successfully I think #edchat

edutopiahubert 1/25/11 12:17 PM them on top of new practices. #edchat cybraryman1 1/25/11 #edchat 12:17 PM

@davidwees I agree... it keeps

@rdlln Sounds like dear old NYC

Andreseheredia 1/25/11 12:18 PM RT @juandoming: http://ilearntechnology.com/?p=3572 Como introducir las #TIC al aula y gesionarla #juandon #education #elearning #edchat jonbergmann 1/25/11 12:18 PM Don't like the either or mentality. Busn telling us what to do = NOT good, but learning from them =Good #edchat fliegs 1/25/11 12:18 PM Every time an educator uses business terms to describe school, we allow the business community more power to control schools. #edchat mbaprogrms 1/25/11 12:18 PM Great!RT @jonbergmann: We need to partner with bus and they will support schls. Invite them in-We can lrn from bus and them from ed #edchat davidwees 1/25/11 12:18 PM @informed_edu I could see effective partnerships but the current model of introducing business leaders to education is NOT working. #edchat MissCheska 1/25/11 12:18 PM RT @jpsteltz: Edu could learn from marketing techniques used in business #edchat Our profession is NOT marketed well schoolsEDU 1/25/11 12:18 PM @cybraryman1 If the financial investments provide more tools & opportunities, then yes. #edchat cybraryman1 1/25/11 12:18 PM RT @mbaprogrms: @rdlln True! Business ed reformers need an educators experience-- that is why they should work with one another #edchat mbaprogrms 1/25/11 12:18 PM invest in schools financially? #edchat RT @cybraryman1: Should businesses

tkraz 1/25/11 12:18 PM to further the metaphor: student collaboration = word of mouth sales #edchat rliberni 1/25/11 12:18 PM RT @juandoming: RT @cybraryman1: Should businesses invest in schools financially? #edchat shawdave 1/25/11 12:18 PM @lisalearner Yeah, I know . I just think that thought sends a "have it your way" message that some of our Ss would like,can't handle #edchat

rliberni 1/25/11 12:18 PM @jpsteltz I agree about bus investing in edu but not only on their terms - cld be a good prtnership #edchat SErwin 1/25/11 12:18 PM @cybraryman1 with lack of funding maybe. But also opens conflict of interest. Think Apple has motives? #edchat ShellTerrell 1/25/11 12:19 PM RT @jonbergmann: Don't like the either or mentality. Busn telling us what to do = NOT good, but learning from them =Good #edchat ShellTerrell 1/25/11 12:19 PM RT @davidwees: @informed_edu "I know best and I'm going to force a top-down approach even though I've read no research & am not an educator" #edchat MertonTech 1/25/11 12:19 PM #edchat The only person that should treat the school as a business is the superintendent. As educators we cannot just cut losses. cybraryman1 1/25/11 #edchat 12:19 PM @SErwin @cybraryman1Yes I know

RobertSAllen1 1/25/11 12:19 PM @jonbergmann don't forget to learn from non-profits though too :) #edchat #unbound #edtech fliegs 1/25/11 12:19 PM hugely important. #edchat @lisalearner Maybe, but semantics are

JenVonId 1/25/11 12:19 PM y shouldn't schools partner w/ businesses. A large company partnered w/ a local charter skool, paid 4 all the technology, gym, etc #edchat rliberni 1/25/11 12:19 PM business investment in edu? #edchat Has anybody got good examoles of

juandoming 1/25/11 12:19 PM @cybraryman1 If learning is ubiquitous, the private contribution is as legitimate as the public, of course. #juandon #edchat slaleman 1/25/11 12:19 PM b/c they have to take classes they hate RT @guyblumberg: 45% learn little in their first 2 yrs of college http://nyti.ms/g4IM1Z #edchat davidwees 1/25/11 12:19 PM @informed_edu I'd prefer to see educators sponsored for MBA degrees and internships in business & return to share what works. #edchat schoolsEDU 1/25/11 12:19 PM RT @jonbergmann: Dont like the either or mentality. Busn telling us what to do = NOT good, but learning from them =Good #edchat

MissCheska 1/25/11 12:19 PM @rliberni Currently bottom-line=$$ = meeting AYPs, getting funding, etc #edchat informed_edu 1/25/11 12:19 PM The key question, no matter how education is organised, is what do we want from it in the long term? #edchat WeAreTeachers 1/25/11 12:19 PM RT @mbaprogrms: RT @cybraryman1: Should businesses invest in schools financially? #edchat artpreston 1/25/11 12:19 PM Social Science - Geography : Cape Town, South Africa - seriously beautiful timelapses http://bit.ly/i3WQU4 #edchat #teacher ShellTerrell 1/25/11 12:19 PM RT @springrose12: n business there is no place for sensitivity, needs and anticipation. f you make a mistake, you're sacked! #Edchat rliberni 1/25/11 12:19 PM RT @schoolsEDU: @cybraryman1 If the financial investments provide more tools & opportunities, then yes. #edchat PLANETPALS 1/25/11 12:19 PM Recycle this tweet! Learn about Recycling and precycling at planetpals.com #moms #edchat #elemchat #teachpreschool davidwees 1/25/11 12:19 PM @informed_edu "I know best and I'm going to force a top-down approach even though I've read no research & am not an educator" #edchat informed_edu 1/25/11 12:20 PM @davidwees Teachers must also acknowledge they don't have a monopoly over good practice in learning. #edchat juandoming 1/25/11 12:20 PM @cybraryman1 Learning should leave schools and universities and should be integrated into the Company #juandon #edchat davidwees 1/25/11 12:20 PM The companies which I see making the most impact on schools listen to educators & form partnerships, not try to take over. #edchat jpsteltz 1/25/11 12:20 PM I see marketing ads on tv & in print regarding online schools. Why aren't the rest of us promoting our schls, education in general, #edchat txlibraryguy 1/25/11 12:20 PM business got what it wanted in past, graduates that showed up on time for mindless work. Now biz wants thinkers, not so easy #edchat

fliegs 1/25/11 look after #edchat.

12:20 PM

@RobertSAllen1 Could be interesting. I will

informed_edu 1/25/11 12:20 PM @davidwees I'd say education and business can both teach each other a great deal, with understanding. #edchat web20education 1/25/11 12:20 PM New #edtech20 post #edchat PLN I am Proud to be Glogster EDU #Ambasador . #GlogsterEdu is http://goo.gl/fb/0AKuJ WeAreTeachers 1/25/11 12:20 PM RT @rliberni: Has anybody got good examoles of business investment in edu? #edchat cybraryman1 1/25/11 12:20 PM RT @rliberni: RT @schoolsEDU: @cybraryman1 If the financial investments provide more tools & opportunities, then yes. #edchat jonbergmann 1/25/11 12:20 PM Example: Morgridge Family Foundation (Cisco) is partnering with us to share the flipped classroom model #edchat rliberni 1/25/11 12:20 PM RT @fliegs: @lisalearner Maybe, but semantics are hugely important. #edchat SErwin 1/25/11 12:20 PM @ShellTerrell @springrose12 but that is the "real world." Will not get enabled once leaving school. #edchat edReformer 1/25/11 12:20 PM 9. Funding: funding creates incentives for performance, options and innovation #unbound #edreform #edchat rliberni 1/25/11 12:21 PM RT @bruno_cesar82: #edchat in education and in business as well, the vision must be followed by the venture schoolsEDU 1/25/11 12:21 PM @jpsteltz Never thought of this. Only time I see Unis with commercials is on ESPN during their school's airplay #edchat ericjuli1/25/11 12:21 PM Implication is bcse business leaders went to school, they are "education experts." Must further professionalize teaching&leading #edchat worldoflearning 1/25/11 12:21 PM RT @DigLearningNow: 10. Delivery: Infrastructure supports digital learning. #unbound #education #edchat #edtech rliberni 1/25/11 12:21 PM RT @informed_edu: @davidwees Teachers must also acknowledge they don't have a monopoly over good practice in learning. #edchat

steveehrmann 1/25/11 12:21 PM Started a new blog: http://sehrmann.blogspot.com/ Most recent post: what should I do next professionally? #onlinelearning #edchat #tltgroup Carter_Learning 1/25/11 12:21 PM @fliegs True, we're not in selling. "Patrons" then? "Those we serve"? Whom are we serving? #edchat ian23505 1/25/11 12:21 PM @WeAreTeachers Local business in MA providing $10k per year for the next 5 years for tech implementation. #edchat daveandcori 1/25/11 12:21 PM RT @daveandcori: Business can also tell students how jobs work - performance, attendance, etc. #edchat jonbergmann 1/25/11 12:21 PM RT @davidwees: companies which I see making the most impact on schls listen to educators & form partnerships, not try to take over. #edchat cybraryman1 1/25/11 12:21 PM total control & work together #edchat My wife says both need to get over

rliberni 1/25/11 12:21 PM What about private edu can they reconcile the business & edu sides of their org? #edchat bruno_cesar82 1/25/11 12:21 PM #edchat in education and in business as well, the vision must be followed by the venture mstephens7 1/25/11 12:22 PM RT @txlibraryguy: business got what it wanted in past, graduates that showed up on time for mindless work. Now biz wants thinkers, not so easy #edchat ian23505 1/25/11 12:22 PM @WeAreTeachers Nope. Needs to be used at the district level. Equitable. #edchat davidwees 1/25/11 12:22 PM @informed_edu I'm not sure I understand that statement. Corollary: "Doctors don't have a monopoly on health" #edchat marcelamomberg 1/25/11 12:22 PM RT @cybraryman1: RT @JenVonId:One of the issues is they think schools can be run like a business, however schools and business are truly different #edchat rliberni #edchat 1/25/11 12:22 PM Does it have to be a them and us?

daveandcori 1/25/11 12:22 PM CBIA Externship program http://j.mp/fLKAMe #edchat connecting business and education

fliegs 1/25/11 12:22 PM @Carter_Learning Students is the only word we need. We are serving students. Ok, use children and kids, too. #edchat daveandcori 1/25/11 12:22 PM CBIA does teacher externships with local companies to help connect education w business needs. I did it and it was great experience #edchat rliberni 1/25/11 12:22 PM RT @cybraryman1: My wife says both need to get over total control & work together Agree!! #edchat WeAreTeachers 1/25/11 12:22 PM Strings atchd? RT @ian23505: @WeAreTeachers Local business in MA providing $10k per year for the next 5 years for tech imp. #edchat jonbergmann 1/25/11 12:23 PM RT @Rob_Learner: It's good to have outside p.o.v. (bus) to point out issues you couldn't see. But handing over the reigns? No. #edchat informed_edu 1/25/11 12:23 PM @davidwees I think teachers have as much to say about creating healthy and fit adults as doctors do, no? #edchat txlibraryguy 1/25/11 12:23 PM corporate scandals, outsourcing and downsizing have hurt business credibility with american people. Biz needs to restore trust. #edchat bruno_cesar82 1/25/11 12:23 PM business and education fail Whose fault is it? #edchat sometimes when both

schoolsEDU 1/25/11 12:23 PM @rliberni Going back to partnering with businesses, it does not have to be them vs. us. Many ways to collaborate, not dominate. #edchat ian23505 1/25/11 12:23 PM @rliberni No. I think to be successful and viable in the future we have to look for opportunities to collaborate. #edchat fliegs 1/25/11 12:23 PM @jpsteltz Great idea. @NMHS_Principal created a public relations plan. We all should. #edchat Rob_Learner 1/25/11 12:23 PM It's good to have outside p.o.v. (business) to point out issues you couldn't see for yourself. But handing over the reigns? No. #edchat Carter_Learning 1/25/11 12:23 PM RT @fliegs: @ImagineLearning The students are not our customers. We do not have customers. We are not in selling. rliberni 1/25/11 12:23 PM RT @daveandcori: CBIA Externship program - http://j.mp/fLKAMe #edchat connecting business and education

rkiker 1/25/11 12:23 PM Awesome: Google introduces the Apps Marketplaces new EDU category! #edtech #edchat #appsct #gonegoogle http://bit.ly/g5d3Sm Carter_Learning 1/25/11 12:24 PM "business" isn't inherently evil either #edchat rliberni 1/25/11 12:24 PM ourselves up to ideas #edchat ian23505 1/25/11 12:24 PM leader when things go wrong. #edchat @rliberni Agreed. The word

@schoolsEDU I agree we need to open @bruno_cesar82 I look to myself as a

geraldaungst 1/25/11 12:24 PM @ericjuli Corollary would be: "I shop frequently so I'm a retail expert." #edchat fliegs 1/25/11 12:24 PM RT @Rob_Learner: It's good to have outside p.o.v. (business) to point out issues you couldn't see for yourself. But handing over the reigns? No. #edchat schoolsEDU 1/25/11 12:24 PM @bruno_cesar82 In the end, it's not really a "fail" rather another learning process - what can we do better? Collaborative! #edchat rdlln 1/25/11 12:24 PM There is so much waste and inefficiency with the current system. I think that's something a good leader could address. #edchat davidwees 1/25/11 12:24 PM @informed_edu Touche. However most of what we know about what makes healthy kids comes from psychologists doesn't it? #edchat MarkRiffey 1/25/11 12:24 PM RT @cybraryman1: My wife says both need to get over total control & work together #edchat (yep) rliberni 1/25/11 12:24 PM @Carter_Learning but we offer ours services - not all business are about products #edchat HighImpactMom 1/25/11 12:24 PM RT @rkiker: Awesome: Google introduces the Apps Marketplaces new EDU category! #edtech #edchat #appsct #gonegoogle http://bit.ly/g5d3Sm ericjuli1/25/11 12:25 PM @geraldaungst Public opinion implies that bcse everyone has been to school anyone can do what we do-we need to change this thinking #edchat jhedger276 1/25/11 12:25 PM Student told me today that teachers are also teaching themselves when they are teaching students. Great job to get paid to learn. #edchat

Mamacita 1/25/11 12:25 PM Not all students are children or kids. We are all still learning. When we stop, they can bury us. #edchat JenVonId 1/25/11 12:25 PM RT @MarkRiffey: RT @cybraryman1: My wife says both need to get over total control & work together #edchat (yep) Totally agree! slaleman 1/25/11 12:25 PM true business model wld take student % gains into acct, not count stdnt who scored less as failures if there's big % gain #edchat rliberni 1/25/11 12:25 PM RT @ShellTerrell: #Edchat Businesses going global & use tech so why if they're the leadership they don't put this in schools? #edchat bruno_cesar82 1/25/11 12:25 PM @RobertSAllen1 should we blame the educational or the financial system? I cannot be blamed always #edchat edutopiahubert 1/25/11 request. =) #edchat 12:25 PM @cybraryman1 they can

elanaleoni 1/25/11 12:25 PM @rliberni Lurking during #edchat but you should check out High Tech High in San Diego. Great ex of business investment in edu. rliberni 1/25/11 12:25 PM @ian23505 agreed this business=bad edu=good is too simplistic and inaccurate #edchat Rob_Learner 1/25/11 12:25 PM RT @lisalearner: should be like a good startup/investor relationship: both bring expertise to the table and then work toward common goal #edchat informed_edu 1/25/11 12:25 PM @davidwees I expect I know much more about classroom practice than a businessman, but I expect I'd still learn something by asking #edchat ImagineLearning 1/25/11 12:25 PM RT @Carter_Learning: @rliberni Agreed. The word "business" isn't inherently evil either #edchat ShellTerrell 1/25/11 12:25 PM #Edchat Businesses going global & use tech so why if they're the leadership they don't put this in schools? cybraryman1 1/25/11 12:25 PM want from education? #edchat Should businesses tell us what they

mbaprogrms 1/25/11 12:25 PM @rliberni Exactly! This is why the two need to work together to create the most effective environment for children to grow and learn #edchat juandoming 1/25/11 12:25 PM RT @PBSTeachers: Teachers! Watch the SOTU tonight, then ask Sec. Duncan your educ. questions. http://to.pbs.org/SOTU11 FETC #edchat JenVonId 1/25/11 12:25 PM RT @schoolsEDU: @rliberni back 2 partnering w/ businesses, it does not have 2 B them vs. us. Many ways 2 collaborate, not dominate. #edchat rkiker 1/25/11 12:25 PM http://bit.ly/dFNY6Z Free Webinar Information: Manage your school in the cloud with the Google Apps Marketplace #appsct #gonegoogle #edchat lisalearner 1/25/11 12:25 PM should be like a good startup/investor relationship: both bring expertise to the table and then work toward common goal #edchat MertonTech 1/25/11 12:26 PM @cybraryman1 #edchat Yes. Absolutely. If schools are not preparing kids for what businesses will be demanding then we aren't doin our job HPTeachExchange 1/25/11 12:26 PM Share this primer about Twitter for professional development http://budurl.com/twpd #edchat RobertSAllen1 1/25/11 12:26 PM RT @Mamacita: Not all students are children or kids. We are all still learning. When we stop, they can bury us. #edchat #edtech #unbound juandoming 1/25/11 12:26 PM @rliberni @schoolsEDU Accurate to the ideas and to change. We are in a new era, not in a time of change! #juandon #edchat rliberni 1/25/11 12:26 PM RT @elanaleoni: @rliberni Lurking during #edchat but you should check out High Tech High in San Diego. Great ex of business investment in edu. fliegs 1/25/11 12:26 PM @Carter_Learning No. It is not evil. The word business is loaded though and used in ways that are taking control from tchrs #edchat edutopiahubert 1/25/11 12:26 PM RT @Mamacita: Not all students are children or kids. We are all still learning. When we stop, they can bury us. #edchat

schoolsEDU 1/25/11 12:27 PM RT @juandoming: @rliberni @schoolsEDU Accurate to the ideas and to change. We are in a new era, not in a time of change! #juandon #edchat ericjuli1/25/11 12:27 PM I think we need to shift the dialogue away from management and towards the expertise we have in teaching and school leadership #edchat rliberni 1/25/11 12:27 PM RT @juandoming: @rliberni @schoolsEDU Accurate to the ideas and to change. We are in a new era, not in a time of change! #juandon #edchat ian23505 1/25/11 12:27 PM @rliberni Agreed. If we took the time and put away judgement, I think both worlds stand to learn a lot from one another. #edchat cybraryman1 1/25/11 request is better #edchat 12:27 PM @edutopiahubert @cybraryman1 Yes

cloudlord 1/25/11 12:27 PM RT @rkiker: http://bit.ly/dFNY6Z Free Webinar Information: Manage ur school in the cloud with the Ggle Apps Marketplace #gonegoogle #edchat informed_edu 1/25/11 12:27 PM @davidwees I'm not sure about that psychologists contribute to the pot, but sports people, medics, teachers etc. all contribute #edchat JenVonId 1/25/11 12:27 PM @davidwees I expect I know much more abt classroom practice than a businessman, but I expect I'd still learn something by asking #edchat yep rkiker 1/25/11 12:27 PM http://bit.ly/icgItm Free Webinar Info: Help students learn more effectively with the Google Apps Marketplace #edchat #edtech #gonegoogle rliberni 1/25/11 12:27 PM 'loaded' why is that? #edchat @fliegs I think that is the problem

davidwees 1/25/11 12:27 PM Teachers often view businesses with deep suspicion, and the way they are being forced into leaders of schools is not helping. #edchat web20education 1/25/11 12:27 PM It is #eegos and #edwebnet a alternative for #facebook to make #edtech20 groups in education in XXI century? http://bitly.net/fSJHhC #edchat tonnet 1/25/11 12:27 PM RT @MissCheska: @cybraryman1 Perhaps we can invite local business into partnerships, ie. student internships, academic sponsors #edchat

davidwees 1/25/11 12:28 PM @informed_edu Asking for advice is much different than handing over the keys. Agree, ask businesses about what works. #edchat daveandcori 1/25/11 12:28 PM Businesses have streamlined processes, become efficient, decreased meetings, integr tech, decrease paper education is way behind #edchat fliegs 1/25/11 12:28 PM RT @ericjuli: I think we need to shift the dialogue away from management and towards the expertise we have in teaching and school leadership #edchat cybraryman1 1/25/11 12:28 PM what I believe too #edchat @MertonTech @cybraryman1 that is

allisonletts 1/25/11 12:28 PM RT @symphily: Better learning through handwriting? - http://bit.ly/gYUrlB [ #lingua #edchat #edreform #edtech #cogsci #education ] juandoming 1/25/11 12:28 PM @cybraryman1 Then it will be an option, there may be other, there is no problem with it. #juandon #edchat #elearning #edtech fliegs 1/25/11 12:28 PM @rliberni BC of the kinds of reforms put in place in the name of business. They have not worked and have crushed so much good. #edchat rliberni 1/25/11 12:28 PM about the business world? #edchat How much do educators really know

daveandcori 1/25/11 12:28 PM @ShellTerrell Disconnect btwn business and schools - schools are way behind - business already realized mtgs are waste of time. #edchat bruno_cesar82 1/25/11 12:28 PM RT @schoolsEDU: @bruno_cesar82 In the end, it's not really a "fail" rathr another learnin prcsswhat can we do better? Collaborate! #edchat schoolsEDU 1/25/11 12:29 PM @daveandcori But schools have come a long way as well - and in most cases with less resources. IE: technology #edchat fliegs 1/25/11 12:29 PM @daveandcori Streamlining and saving some money are things that we can learn from business. I agree. #edchat txlibraryguy 1/25/11 12:29 PM @cybraryman1 we know what biz wants. We want it to, but cultural change needs to happen, not just ed reform #edchat

jhedger276 1/25/11 12:29 PM RT @daveandcori: Disconnect btwn business and schools - schools are way behind - business already realized mtgs are waste of time. #edchat jonbergmann 1/25/11 12:29 PM RT @daveandcori: Busin have streamlined processes, become efficient, decreased mtgs integr tech, less paper education is way behind #edchat rliberni 1/25/11 12:29 PM @fliegs my feeling is that this is when politics gets into the mix as well. #edchat informed_edu 1/25/11 12:29 PM I learned a huge amount by reading about business and healthcare. Some lesson can transfer, and should #edchat http://ow.ly/3JXjN rdlln 1/25/11 12:29 PM We had to spend $3,000 on software we didn't need. It couldn't be spent on anything else or saved. No business would do that. #edchat ericjuli1/25/11 12:29 PM There's much to learn from strong business leaders, but thoughtful educators need to put the learning into educational context #edchat davidwees 1/25/11 12:30 PM While the vast majority of businesses have been operated with integrity there are some which have done great evil. #edchat Smichael920 1/25/11 12:30 PM #edchat agree that business & schools aren't exclusive & we can learn lots from each other, esp around leadership juandoming 1/25/11 12:30 PM @cybraryman1 And a new era requires a new approach, even rethink the concept of #education #juandon #edchat #redcled ericjuli1/25/11 12:30 PM Allowing the dialogue to make leading a district and managing a district synonymous is a problem-Education is an art and a science #edchat cybraryman1 1/25/11 12:30 PM I talked to many businesses leaders & they were not happy with NYC grads in past as they had to train them in basics #edchat JenVonId 1/25/11 12:30 PM RT @ImagineLearning: If only schools and businesses were on the same playing field, resource-wise #edchat Very true. hod do we get there?

elearnchat 1/25/11 12:30 PM #eLearnchat with guest @dpontefract on Enterprise Learning is starting in 30 minutes www.justin.tv/realatecorp #astd #edchat #lrnchat #tk11 CrudBasher 1/25/11 12:30 PM RT @informed_edu: The more opinions in the education melting pot the better - the state should have no monopoly. #edchat davidwees 1/25/11 12:30 PM I worry about our ability to create independent thinkers if we let businesses manage education. #edchat rliberni 1/25/11 12:30 PM RT @informed_edu: The more opinions in the education melting pot the better - the state should have no monopoly. #edchat Nunavut_Teacher 1/25/11 12:30 PM Are schools letting government off the hook by getting business to fill a $ void? #edchat ImagineLearning 1/25/11 12:30 PM If only schools and businesses were on the same playing field, resource-wise #edchat mbaprogrms 1/25/11 12:30 PM RT @schoolsEDU: @daveandcori But schools have come a long way as well - and in most cases with less resources. IE: technology #edchat rliberni 1/25/11 12:30 PM RT @informed_edu: I learned a huge amount by reading about business and healthcare. Some lesson can transfer, and should #edchat http://ow.ly/3JXjN informed_edu 1/25/11 12:30 PM The more opinions in the education melting pot the better - the state should have no monopoly. #edchat fliegs 1/25/11 way. #edchat 12:30 PM @rliberni Absolutely. Politics is there in a big @juandoming Yes the times are

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daveandcori 1/25/11 12:31 PM @fliegs Definitely - I don't want to treat students as product, but there are lots of good business practices that schools can use #edchat schoolsEDU 1/25/11 12:31 PM @Nunavut_Teacher Don't think it's a matter of letting anyone off the hook - it's realizing change/improvement is in own hands #edchat informed_edu 1/25/11 12:31 PM RT @rliberni: @davidwees I can't imagine that there aren't indep thinkers in business too #edchat

rliberni 1/25/11 12:31 PM RT @lisalearner: @davidwees why is that? are there no indep thinkers in business? #edchat davidwees 1/25/11 12:31 PM What would happen if a "Phillip Morris" somehow got control of a school district? How do we mitigate that risk? #edchat Kvanderark 1/25/11 12:31 PM RT @pesky: @tvanderark Voise Academy - multiple levels of instruction in one classroom http://bit.ly/fPOBKM #unbound #edchat #edreform #onlinelearning rliberni 1/25/11 12:31 PM @davidwees I can't imagine that there aren't indep thinkers in business too #edchat lisalearner 1/25/11 12:31 PM indep thinkers in business? #edchat @davidwees why is that? are there no

pesky 1/25/11 12:31 PM @tvanderark Voise Academy - multiple levels of instruction in one classroom http://bit.ly/fPOBKM #unbound #edchat #edreform #onlinelearning bruno_cesar82 1/25/11 12:31 PM #edchat show me the business not guided by sentiment and service. Education shouldn't be ruled by 'profits most who serves best' slaleman 1/25/11 12:31 PM No business would survive if elected officials who had little knowledge of the business were put in charge #edchat informed_edu 1/25/11 12:31 PM @davidwees We can ask them to help run it, we don't have to ask them to set the parameters of success though. #edchat HanoverResearch 1/25/11 12:31 PM Cheat Sheet: http://bit.ly/gODZjv #edchat Your State of the Union Edu-

fliegs 1/25/11 12:31 PM RT @davidwees: I worry about our ability to create independent thinkers if we let businesses manage education. #edchat daveandcori 1/25/11 12:32 PM @davidwees True - and there are some schools that are operated by evil/inept/ignorant people - lets take best practices #edchat edutopiahubert 1/25/11 12:32 PM Businesses can also lend out their human resources. http://bit.ly/fJ2hIG #edchat edReformer 1/25/11 12:32 PM RT @pesky: Gov Wise, @tvanderark & D. Finn at @Worldoflearning digital learning summit - Rock stars #unbound #onlinelearning #edchat

fliegs 1/25/11 12:32 PM @daveandcori I agree there are some. Please be specific, though. Which business practices would you choose? #edchat txlibraryguy 1/25/11 12:32 PM RT @davidwees: While the vast majority of businesses have been operated with integrity there are some which have done great evil. #edchat informed_edu 1/25/11 #edchat by the way! 12:32 PM This is a very interesting and inspiring

lisalearner 1/25/11 12:32 PM RT @slaleman: No business would survive if elected officials who had little knowledge of the business were put in charge #edchat rdlln 1/25/11 12:32 PM @cybraryman1 That's because social promotion is alive and well, despite what they say. That and class sizes of 30+ students. #edchat tkraz 1/25/11 12:32 PM If we don't learn from business, we are the ones not studying history and current events. #edchat geraldaungst 1/25/11 12:32 PM RT @davidwees I worry about our ability to create independent thinkers if we let businesses manage education. #edchat ImagineLearning 1/25/11 12:32 PM @JenVonId With the current systetm, it seems like govt is the only way to get us there #edchat davidwees 1/25/11 12:32 PM @lisalearner @rliberni Lots of independent thinkers. Also lots of people who see us as commodities rather than people. #edchat fliegs 1/25/11 12:32 PM RT @slaleman: No business would survive if elected officials who had little knowledge of the business were put in charge #edchat RobertSAllen1 1/25/11 FOURTHSECTOR.NET 12:32 PM @bruno_cesar82 #edchat SEE

ian23505 1/25/11 12:32 PM RT @ericjuli: Agreed! Much to learn from strong bus. leaders, but thoughtful educ. need to put the learning into educational context #edchat JenVonId 1/25/11 12:33 PM @ImagineLearning yes, but do they really know what is best for students? I believe there is a huge renaissance on the verge! #edchat tkraz 1/25/11 12:33 PM @fliegs @daveandcori I incorporated a "FedEx day" into one of my classes with GREAT results. #edchat

daveandcori 1/25/11 12:33 PM @schoolsEDU True - but schools are still way behind business in lots of ways, incldg tech #edchat rliberni 1/25/11 in it for them? #edchat 12:33 PM @davidwees why would they? What's

ericjuli1/25/11 12:33 PM Stopping business takeover isn't the problem-uniting educators around clear learning goals and clearly defined leadership needs is #edchat informed_edu 1/25/11 12:33 PM RT @edutopiahubert: Businesses can also lend out their human resources. http://bit.ly/fJ2hIG #edchat # <-- mutual benefit I'm sure juandoming 1/25/11 12:33 PM @cybraryman1 So if education is free, why companies can not directly prepare their future employees? #juandon #edchat #edtech jhedger276 1/25/11 12:33 PM @rliberni not as much as we think. I think businesses are way behind education in some areas. e.g. budgeting, #edchat bruno_cesar82 1/25/11 12:33 PM I will later on. Tks ! RT @RobertSAllen1: @bruno_cesar82 #edchat SEE FOURTHSECTOR.NET rliberni 1/25/11 our minds! #edchat 12:33 PM @daveandcori Agreed we can't shut

davidwees 1/25/11 12:33 PM @lisalearner @rliberni Question is: Who sets the agenda when we put businesses in charge? What is the goal? #edchat jonbergmann 1/25/11 12:34 PM YES! RT @fliegs: @tkraz Fantastic. I've heard a few other twitter-educators talk about that as well. #edchat edutopiahubert example! #edchat 1/25/11 12:34 PM @jonbergmann Awesome

davidwees 1/25/11 12:34 PM @geraldaungst Exactly. I don't want my son to be a better employee, I want him to be a better person. #edchat bruno_cesar82 1/25/11 12:34 PM #edchat if we could sell knowledge and experience, we'd be millionaires! Nunavut_Teacher 1/25/11 12:34 PM RT @davidwees: The goal of education should be to create whole people, not cogs in the consumerism machine. How can we ensure this happens? #edchat

informed_edu 1/25/11 12:34 PM RT @daveandcori: @schoolsEDU True - but schools are still way behind business in lots of ways, incldg tech #edchat jonbergmann 1/25/11 12:34 PM Good Practice: Local Auto Repair shop helping in our school. He wants good mechanics to work for him #edchat davidwees 1/25/11 12:34 PM The goal of education should be to create whole people, not cogs in the consumerism machine. How can we ensure this happens? #edchat fliegs 1/25/11 12:34 PM @tkraz Fantastic. I've heard a few other twitter-educators talk about that as well. #edchat ImagineLearning 1/25/11 12:34 PM RT @JenVonId: @ImagineLearning yes, but do they know what is best for students? I believe there is a huge renaissance on the verge! #edchat rdlln 1/25/11 12:34 PM I think the whole idea of grades (10th, 11th etc.) being related to your age is antiquated. #edchat geraldaungst 1/25/11 12:34 PM @davidwees Business sees edu as a means of producing better employees. Our mission is larger than that. #edchat rliberni 1/25/11 12:34 PM @jhedger276 ut all depends on the business there are many kinds of business structure #edchat cybraryman1 1/25/11 36 in 1970 s #edchat 12:34 PM @rdlln You are correct I used to have

ian23505 1/25/11 12:35 PM RT @sram_socrates: Education is more of a web-design while business is more linear with a defined end result #edchat fliegs 1/25/11 12:35 PM @slaleman Right. Schools are not about profit, we are about a public service. #edchat rliberni 1/25/11 12:35 PM @bruno_cesar82 maybe that's where business acumen could some in and make money for schools! #edchat informed_edu 1/25/11 12:35 PM RT @Akevy613: It says in Ethics of our Fathers- "Who is truly wise1who learns from all" We need2take best practices from all fields&apply them2EDU #edchat daveandcori 1/25/11 12:35 PM Ex - std work - having set procedures written for: opening school, weather, etc. Many schools adlib it each year recreating wheel. #edchat

Carter_Learning 1/25/11 12:35 PM @JenVonId is reform in this context possible with a bottom-up approach? Or is top-down the only way? #edchat Akevy613 1/25/11 12:35 PM It says in Ethics of our Fathers- "Who is truly wise1who learns from all" We need2take best practices from all fields&apply them2EDU #edchat sram_socrates 1/25/11 12:35 PM Education is more of a webdesign while business is more linear with a defined end result #edchat jhedger276 1/25/11 12:35 PM @rliberni Is it the type of business or the leader of the business that matters. So is it the type of school or type of leader? #edchat rliberni 1/25/11 12:35 PM RT @bruno_cesar82: #edchat if we could sell knowledge and experience, we'd be millionaires! MertonTech 1/25/11 students? #edchat 12:35 PM @JenVonId Who knows whats best for

JenVonId 1/25/11 12:35 PM RT @jonbergmann: Good Practice: Local Auto Repair shop helping in our school. He wants good mechanics to work for him #edchat Excellent! slaleman 1/25/11 12:35 PM Schools don't have a way 2 make a profit & reinvest in the "company." #edchat marsassie 1/25/11 12:35 PM RT @FIEDBA: El aprendizaje fuera de las aulas: 10 cosas que no se pueden olvidar http://t.co/wsOiLJh #elearning #educacion #edchat (v-a @juandoming) jhedger276 1/25/11 12:36 PM @rliberni Very good point. #edchat

sram_socrates 1/25/11 12:36 PM If a business / workers don't meet results they are replaced, we are not able to do that with students ethically or morally #edchat k_shelton 1/25/11 12:36 PM RT @michellek107: RT @davidwees: goal of edu should be to create whole people, not cogs in the consumerism machine. How can we ensure this happens? #edchat jbrogley 1/25/11 12:36 PM I'm taking a tour this spring of this business. Their campus along is innovative and inspiring. http://bit.ly/c9dM15 #edchat JenVonId 1/25/11 12:36 PM @MertonTech That is something i'm not sure of. I wld lk 2 think we R, as educators, etc. However thr R things we dont know. #edchat

informed_edu 1/25/11 12:36 PM RT @rliberni: @jhedger276 the type of leader probably dictates the type of business and so with schools #edchat SwitchClassroom 1/25/11 12:36 PM State of the Union Edu-Cheat Sheet http://t.co/z6YiF0A via @educationweek #edchat #education #parents #SAHM #SAHD #k12 ShellTerrell 1/25/11 12:36 PM RT @geraldaungst: Business sees edu as a means of producing better employees. Our mission is larger than that. #edchat michellek107 1/25/11 12:36 PM RT @davidwees: goal of edu should be to create whole people, not cogs in the consumerism machine. How can we ensure this happens? #edchat rliberni 1/25/11 12:36 PM @jhedger276 the type of leader probably dictates the type of business and so with schools #edchat ShellTerrell 1/25/11 12:36 PM RT @davidwees: The goal of education should be to create whole people, not cogs in the consumerism machine. How can we ensure this happens? #edchat michellek107 1/25/11 12:36 PM Amen to that! RT @davidwees: @geraldaungst Exactly. I don't want my son to be a better employee, I want him to be a better person. #edchat lisalearner 1/25/11 12:36 PM @davidwees @rliberni dangerous stereotype to use--not all business is like that. shouldn't let stereotypes stop discussions. #edchat rdlln 1/25/11 12:36 PM I know a Junior who needs one class to graduate. They won't let him take it in the summer. He has to return for an entire year. #edchat juandoming 1/25/11 12:36 PM RT @FIEDBA: El aprendizaje fuera de las aulas: 10 cosas que no se pueden olvidar http://t.co/wsOiLJh #elearning #educacion #edchat (v-a @juandoming) sram_socrates 1/25/11 12:37 PM @ian23505 exactly, I can understand that business can help education but we cannot follow the same model, there is no app for ed #edchat daveandcori 1/25/11 12:37 PM School admin are often lacking in basic management and leadership skills. Too many meetings where nothing gets done. Waste paper. #edchat lisalearner 1/25/11 12:37 PM def help with resources! #edchat @rliberni @bruno_cesar82 that would

Smichael920 1/25/11 12:37 PM #edchat the importance of role of business manager in schools illustrates how wide our remit is. davidwees 1/25/11 12:37 PM @lisalearner @rliberni Discussions are one thing, people from businesses being installed as leaders is not discussion. #edchat kylibrarian 1/25/11 12:37 PM @davidwees Think a first step is stop the emphasis on standardized testing. It's like a mass product made from mass educating. #edchat Carter_Learning 1/25/11 12:37 PM RT @rliberni: @lisalearner I agree what do we mean by 'business'? I run a business, it's in education. #edchat Mamacita 1/25/11 12:37 PM Eliminate most standardized testing & we'd have time to teach invaluable skills that would enrich business & life. #edchat rdlln 1/25/11 12:37 PM But if he had failed it he could take it in the summer. It dosen't make any sense at all. #edchat rliberni 1/25/11 12:37 PM @lisalearner I agree what do we mean by 'business'? I run a business, it's in education. #edchat MertonTech 1/25/11 12:37 PM want whole people, not just cogs? @davidwees #edchat Don't businesses

daveandcori 1/25/11 12:37 PM @fliegs Office management, dealing with personel, management, organization, decrease paper and meetings, streamline admin - #edchat ian23505 1/25/11 12:37 PM @sram_socrates Agreed. The web captures it. That's why many business approaches will never work. Simple strategies for a linear sys. #edchat txlibraryguy 1/25/11 12:37 PM RT @davidwees: @geraldaungst Exactly. I don't want my son to be a better employee, I want him to be a better person. #edchat ericjuli1/25/11 12:37 PM @jhedger276 I don't believe in one type of leader-Leadership in urban schools versus suburban is entirely different leadership #edchat ponceluis 1/25/11 12:38 PM RT @FIEDBA: El aprendizaje fuera de las aulas: 10 cosas que no se pueden olvidar http://t.co/wsOiLJh #elearning #educacion #edchat (v-a @juandoming)

informed_edu 1/25/11 12:38 PM RT @Mamacita: Invite business into our classrooms; let us learn from each other. Many businesses would love to help if they knew what we wanted. #edchat ericjuli1/25/11 12:38 PM @daveandcori People and resource management and instructional leadership are entirely different skill sets-Admin need both #edchat sram_socrates 1/25/11 12:38 PM RT @davidwees: @MertonTech Some businesses want whole people, some want cogs. #edchat Mamacita 1/25/11 12:38 PM Invite business into our classrooms; let us learn from each other. Many businesses would love to help if they knew what we wanted. #edchat wmchamberlain 1/25/11 12:38 PM #edchat Teaching students how to learn makes them better employees than teaching them skills that get dated... juandoming 1/25/11 12:38 PM @sram_socrates education can not be a finalist, you must be a cognitive process of continuous learning, seeking excellence #edchat txlibraryguy 1/25/11 12:38 PM RT @daveandcori: School admin are often lacking in basic management and leadership skills. Too many meetings where nothing gets done. Waste paper. #edchat ian23505 1/25/11 12:38 PM @fliegs @salesman Isn't student learning our "profit"? The greatest public service for a community is to be "profitable"? #edchat rliberni 1/25/11 12:38 PM @jhedger276 we should be able to learb from each other - there are not-for-profit businesses after all #edchat wmchamberlain 1/25/11 12:38 PM #edchat Haven't we pandered enough to businesses? When will we get back to education being about learning not training? fliegs 1/25/11 12:38 PM @daveandcori I agree to all of those things. Not one is a learning practice. Good. (I take minor exception to fewer admins :) #edchat txlibraryguy 1/25/11 12:38 PM @davidwees @geraldaungst #edchat Important point. Character development is lacking today. It effects business climate, darwinian and awful. jhedger276 1/25/11 12:38 PM @ericjuli I totally agree. But you want to make sure to get the right leader for the right school. #edchat

MertonTech 1/25/11 12:38 PM @JenVonId I would like to think that the qual. of 'educator' means we know whats best. There are educators that don't have a clue. #edchat davidwees 1/25/11 12:38 PM whole people, some want cogs. #edchat @MertonTech Some businesses want

HOPEinSchools 1/25/11 12:39 PM RT @ian23505 @fliegs @salesman Isn't student learning our "profit"? The grtest public service for a community is to be "profitable"? #edchat VanessaSCassie 1/25/11 12:39 PM OK, so I'm really, REALLY late to the convo...what are we talking about? lol #edchat cybraryman1 1/25/11 12:39 PM RT @jonbergmann: @wmchamberlain Need a mix of training and learning. We can do both. #edchat informed_edu 1/25/11 12:39 PM RT @pete_rodrigues: The misconception is the business want cogs - most don't. They want thinkers #edchat jonbergmann 1/25/11 12:39 PM them to learn in most schools? #edchat fliegs 1/25/11 #edchat 12:39 PM @ian23505 But are we really teaching

@ian23505 I like that learning is our profit.

pesky 1/25/11 12:39 PM OH Connections Academy is amazing cost effective model but locals feel $$ is "going away." We need comprehensive model. #edchat #edreform sram_socrates 1/25/11 12:39 PM @juandoming I agree, but business can take one idea and simply continue to work with it only adapting small changes #edchat rliberni 1/25/11 12:39 PM RT @cybraryman1: My students gained a lot from our Health Careers program http://cybraryman.com/hcp.html #edchat pete_rodrigues 1/25/11 12:39 PM The misconception is the business want cogs - most don't. They want thinkers #edchat fliegs 1/25/11 12:39 PM RT @ian23505: @fliegs @salesman Isn't student learning our "profit"? The greatest public service for a community is to be "profitable"? #edchat rliberni 1/25/11 12:39 PM RT @ImagineLearning: @JenVonId does govt NOT know what's best for students? If they provide $, then we can choose how it's spent #edchat

cybraryman1 1/25/11 12:39 PM My students gained a lot from our Health Careers program http://cybraryman.com/hcp.html #edchat ian23505 1/25/11 12:39 PM RT @wmchamberlain: #edchat Teaching students how to learn makes them better employees than teaching them skills that get dated... towittertoo 1/25/11 12:39 PM RT @ian23505: @fliegs @salesman Isn't student learning our "profit"? The greatest public service for a community is to be "profitable"? #edchat geraldaungst 1/25/11 12:39 PM @RobertSAllen1 Your implication is that the totality of ed is a miserable failure. Do you actually believe that? #edchat rliberni 1/25/11 12:39 PM @davidwees when u say leaders r these in schools? It's not something I recognise #edchat txlibraryguy 1/25/11 12:39 PM @daveandcori #edchat Lack of management skills deadly to public ed, also its bad in private sector for different reasons. jonbergmann 1/25/11 12:39 PM @wmchamberlain Need a mix of training and learning. We can do both. #edchat ImagineLearning 1/25/11 12:39 PM @JenVonId does govt NOT know what's best for students? If they provide $, then we can choose how it's spent #edchat towittertoo 1/25/11 12:39 PM RT @ian23505: RT @sram_socrates: Education is more of a web-design while business is more linear with a defined end result #edchat nsharoff 1/25/11 12:40 PM .@fliegs #edchat if schools were business they would never survive the 1st qtr; & students r not products, but 'customers' ian23505 1/25/11 12:40 PM @jonbergmann Well now that's an important question! How does a community of learners define "profit"? #edchat davidwees 1/25/11 12:40 PM @RobertSAllen1 Change is much more effective when everyone involved understands their role, their purpose. #edchat RobertSAllen1 1/25/11 12:40 PM @wmchamberlain Businesses just might save our education system see #unbound right now!!!! #edchat #edtech

ericjuli1/25/11 12:40 PM @jhedger276 Putting business managers into schools implies that leadership is just about the management and not the right fit #edchat rliberni 1/25/11 12:40 PM RT @lisamariemary: RT @mamacita: Eliminate most standardized testing & we'd have time to teach invaluable skills that would enrich business & life. #edchat rliberni 1/25/11 12:40 PM RT @edtechsteve: RT @pete_rodrigues: The misconception is the business want cogs - most dont. They want thinkers <--more and more, yes. #edchat lisamariemary 1/25/11 12:40 PM RT @mamacita: Eliminate most standardized testing & we'd have time to teach invaluable skills that would enrich business & life. #edchat davidwees 1/25/11 12:40 PM @RobertSAllen1 Cogs to me means "unthinking", "unaware" or "manipulated." I wouldn't wish that on anyone. #edchat edtechsteve 1/25/11 12:40 PM RT @pete_rodrigues: The misconception is the business want cogs - most dont. They want thinkers <-more and more, yes. #edchat Carter_Learning 1/25/11 12:40 PM RT @fliegs: @ian23505 I like that learning is our profit. #edchat Learning and a bright future! schoolsEDU 1/25/11 12:40 PM RT @cybraryman1: RT @jonbergmann: @wmchamberlain Need a mix of training and learning. We can do both. #edchat rliberni 1/25/11 12:40 PM RT @cybraryman1: RT @jonbergmann: @wmchamberlain Need a mix of training and learning. We can do both. #edchat sram_socrates 1/25/11 12:40 PM @juandoming Education is about thinking and growing, business is about keeping up and selling #edchat jhedger276 1/25/11 12:40 PM @rliberni I agree. Business should find as much mutual use of schools as we can from businesses. #edchat Grevster73 1/25/11 12:40 PM Thoughts on a new science NC http://andychandler-grevatt.blogspot.com/2011/01/if-i-had-to-write-newscience.html #ukedchat #edchat #nc11 nsharoff 1/25/11 12:41 PM #edchat not sure why there is conflict of school vs. business; I say bring on the best of both worlds!

fliegs 1/25/11 12:41 PM Wow. RT @sram_socrates: Imagine if gov spent the same money bailing out business as it did on education #edchat meyeyines 1/25/11 12:41 PM RT @FIEDBA: El aprendizaje fuera de las aulas: 10 cosas que no se pueden olvidar http://t.co/wsOiLJh #elearning #educacion #edchat (v-a @juandoming) rliberni 1/25/11 12:41 PM RT @cybraryman1: Yes our focus should be on training students to be critical thinkers #edchat SECottrell 1/25/11 12:41 PM Coming very late to #edchat but has anyone mentioned, let's learn from business that tenure is illogical and the opposite of progressive. rliberni 1/25/11 12:41 PM RT @VanessaSCassie: RT @ian23505: @jonbergmann Well now thats an important question! How does a community of learners define "profit"? #edchat jonbergmann 1/25/11 12:41 PM @ian23505 I agree-learning is paramount. Sadly not happening in many classrooms. They just get through the curriculum #edchat cybraryman1 1/25/11 12:41 PM students to be critical thinkers #edchat Yes our focus should be on training

juandoming 1/25/11 12:41 PM @cybraryman1 Education should not produce economic benefits, but if you train people capable of producing #juandon #edchat WeAreTeachers 1/25/11 12:41 PM RT @sram_socrates: Imagine if gov spent the same money bailing out business as it did on education #edchat VanessaSCassie 1/25/11 12:41 PM RT @ian23505: @jonbergmann Well now thats an important question! How does a community of learners define "profit"? #edchat fliegs 1/25/11 12:41 PM are students. #edchat @nsharoff Student are not customers. They

sram_socrates 1/25/11 12:41 PM Imagine if gov spent the same money bailing out business as it did on education #edchat rliberni 1/25/11 12:41 PM RT @ImagineLearning: there r good & bad businesses, good & bad schools. The best minds from each can benefit the other. #edchat lisalearner 1/25/11 12:41 PM @VanessaSCassie Business and its place in schools/education. Welcome to the #edchat!

rliberni 1/25/11 12:41 PM RT @nsharoff: .@fliegs #edchat if schools were business they would never survive the 1st qtr; & students r not products, but 'customers' ImagineLearning 1/25/11 12:41 PM there r good & bad businesses, good & bad schools. The best minds from each can benefit the other. #edchat geraldaungst 1/25/11 12:41 PM @michellek107 @davidwees Better citizen, contributor to bettering the world. Many paths there that don't involve business. #edchat schoolsEDU 1/25/11 12:41 PM RT @mamacita: Eliminate most standardized testing & wed have time to teach invaluable skills that would enrich business & life. #edchat informed_edu 1/25/11 12:41 PM Teachers know so much about engaging people into lifelong habits that business love to learn. #edchat rliberni 1/25/11 12:42 PM RT @cybraryman1: RT @nsharoff: #edchat not sure why there is conflict of school vs. business; I say bring on the best of both worlds! #edchat chulitt 1/25/11 12:42 PM Why are we scared of businesses? Is it the stale corporate-ness? If so I agree. Why can't we have apple or google of schools? #edchat nsharoff 1/25/11 12:42 PM #edchat many business models put customers 1st, shouldn't education being doing the same 4 students? jonbergmann 1/25/11 is the case #edchat 12:42 PM @ian23505 I agree: but too often this

rliberni 1/25/11 12:42 PM RT @CTuckerEnglish: I doubt most students would think that state standardized exams were an accurate measurement of the "result" or of teacher success #edchat edtechsteve 1/25/11 12:42 PM Hypocritical issue in "ed reform" today: Saying we want to produce creative problem-solvers while standardizing/ignoring creativity #edchat cybraryman1 1/25/11 12:42 PM RT @nsharoff: #edchat not sure why there is conflict of school vs. business; I say bring on the best of both worlds! #edchat rliberni 1/25/11 12:42 PM RT @ian23505: @jonbergmann If getting through the curriculum is deemed "profitable" we have a major problem on our hands. #edchat

daveandcori 1/25/11 12:42 PM @ericjuli Exactly - most Ed Leadership programs are lacking in management skills and admin need these skills #edchat CTuckerEnglish 1/25/11 12:42 PM I doubt most students would think that state standardized exams were an accurate measurement of the "result" or of teacher success #edchat rliberni 1/25/11 12:42 PM RT @nsharoff: #edchat I c too much waste in education these days, business models could put an end to that ian23505 1/25/11 12:42 PM @jonbergmann If getting through the curriculum is deemed "profitable" we have a major problem on our hands. #edchat jhedger276 1/25/11 12:42 PM @ericjuli Agreed. I don't think business managers would make good administrators in schools. They tend to have a different focus. #edchat nsharoff 1/25/11 12:42 PM #edchat I c too much waste in education these days, business models could put an end to that rliberni 1/25/11 12:42 PM RT @Mamacita: @fliegs #edchat Profit is also when students use their learning to make connections & ultimately to create a good life. jonbergmann 1/25/11 12:42 PM Profit=All students learning at a level commensurate with their ability, goals, and dreams. #edchat VanessaSCassie 1/25/11 12:42 PM @lisalearner Thanks! I've missed the last few, so happy to be back :) #edchat rliberni 1/25/11 12:42 PM @cybraryman1 businesses need critical thinkers too so maybe win-win? #edchat RobertSAllen1 1/25/11 12:42 PM #edchat everyone see #unbound right now if you are not already. Change is happening and business (non and for) are ... http://bit.ly/heUINc informed_edu 1/25/11 12:42 PM Teachers know so much about engaging people into lifelong habits that business love to learn #edchat Mamacita 1/25/11 12:42 PM @fliegs #edchat Profit is also when students use their learning to make connections & ultimately to create a good life. joe_bower 1/25/11 12:42 PM RT @d_martin05: Instead of saying "it can't be done" how about read a blog about someone who is doing it already #edchat #abed

rliberni 1/25/11 12:43 PM should be symbiotic! #edchat

@sram_socrates so the relationship

RobertSAllen1 1/25/11 12:43 PM RT @WorldofLearning: For more information on the Learning #Unbound summit, visit http://knowledgeworks.org/conversation #edchat sram_socrates 1/25/11 12:43 PM RT @ImagineLearning: Imagine if the govt spent the same $$ on education as it spends in Afghanistan in a month! #edchat - exactly ian23505 1/25/11 12:43 PM @jonbergmann Then I think it is critical to have that conversation with communities, "How do we define success ("profit")? #edchat fliegs 1/25/11 12:43 PM Nice RT @Mamacita: @fliegs #edchat Profit is also when students use their learning to make connections & ultimately to create a good life rliberni 1/25/11 12:43 PM RT @sram_socrates: What ppl don't always relate is that it is education that drives business, not the other way around #edchat hackhighschool 1/25/11 12:43 PM RT @JenVonId: #edchat maybe schools need to look at "FedEx" days for inspiration, much like Daniel Pink discusses in Drive. rliberni 1/25/11 12:43 PM RT @davidwees: RT @StepanVdovine: business and schools can't be welded at the hip - http://bit.ly/a8BpP7 #edchat sram_socrates 1/25/11 12:43 PM What ppl don't always relate is that it is education that drives business, not the other way around #edchat davidwees 1/25/11 12:43 PM RT @StepanVdovine: business and schools can't be welded at the hip - http://bit.ly/a8BpP7 #edchat gmbondi 1/25/11 12:43 PM Wednesdays w/ Sam -check out this wiki showcasing integration of tech tools: http://bit.ly/guSwUH -New to my PLN @SFecich #cpchat #edchat fliegs 1/25/11 12:43 PM @SECottrell Of course, tenure also protects and provide due process. Not opposite of progress if you are fired wrongly. #edchat rliberni 1/25/11 12:43 PM RT @ImagineLearning: @sram_socrates @sram_socrates Imagine if the govt spent the same $$ on education as it spends in Afghanistan in a month! #edchat

SECottrell 1/25/11 12:43 PM On the other hand, let's tell business that education needs real reform, not merit pay. Teachers aren't salespeople. #edchat rliberni 1/25/11 12:43 PM RT @chulitt: Why are we scared of businesses? Is it the stale corporate-ness? If so I agree. Why can't we have apple or google of schools? #edchat daveandcori 1/25/11 12:43 PM @txlibraryguy True! #edchat

sergio_sosa 1/25/11 12:43 PM RT @FIEDBA: El aprendizaje fuera de las aulas: 10 cosas que no se pueden olvidar http://t.co/wsOiLJh #elearning #educacion #edchat (v-a @juandoming) ImagineLearning 1/25/11 12:43 PM @sram_socrates @sram_socrates Imagine if the govt spent the same $$ on education as it spends in Afghanistan in a month! #edchat JenVonId 1/25/11 12:43 PM #edchat maybe schools need to look at "FedEx" days for inspiration, much like Daniel Pink discusses in Drive. fliegs 1/25/11 12:44 PM @SECottrell That could be the way. I have not yet seen a reasonable plan put forward. #edchat VanessaSCassie 1/25/11 12:44 PM Or tchrs! RT @CTuckerEnglish: I doubt most stdts would think stndrdizd exams were an accurate msuremnt of result or of tchr success #edchat rliberni #edchat 1/25/11 12:44 PM @txlibraryguy but not all biz is big biz

cybraryman1 1/25/11 12:44 PM RT @sram_socrates: RT @ImagineLearning: Imagine if the govt spent the same $$ on education as it spends in Afghanistan in a month! #edchat Mamacita 1/25/11 12:44 PM Don't think business doesn't support learning. By supporting learning we are all stronger, better, & stand to "profit." #edchat Smichael920 1/25/11 12:44 PM #edchat imp to remember as schools we're about collaboration not competition. Not always the case in business ToddAHoffman 1/25/11 12:44 PM What good teacher professional-development programs are doing http://sbne.ws/r/6AUB #edchat #edtech @compasslearning ericjuli1/25/11 12:44 PM @daveandcori I'd argue the opposite. Many admin enter as managers. Takes time and hard work to be effective instructional leader #edchat

nsharoff 1/25/11 12:44 PM #edchat I'm tired of everyone 'fighting' each other (parents-admin-teachers-students-business), let's take the best of all & put it together SECottrell 1/25/11 12:44 PM @fliegs Yet somehow a lot of other fields have found ways to protect due process and prevent wrongful termination without tenure. #edchat PLANETPALS 1/25/11 12:44 PM Make ur world better #food #ideas #crafts #DIY Planetpals #Green Guides http://plpls.com/cgBX76 #moms #parents #ece #edchat #elemchat CoachB0066 1/25/11 12:44 PM RT @cybraryman1: Yes our focus should be on training students to be critical thinkers #edchat ian23505 1/25/11 12:44 PM RT @rliberni: RT @sram_socrates: What ppl don't always relate is that it is education that drives business, not the other way around #edchat Carter_Learning 1/25/11 12:44 PM RT @sram_socrates: What ppl don't always relate is that it is education that drives business, not the other way around #edchat txlibraryguy 1/25/11 12:45 PM @rliberni Yes. Small biz is much better to communities, but they don't have spare $ or a lot of people. #edchat rdlln 1/25/11 12:45 PM What time is #edchat tonight?

fliegs 1/25/11 12:45 PM RT @Smichael920: #edchat imp to remember as schools were about collaboration not competition. Not always the case in business #edchat VanessaSCassie 1/25/11 12:45 PM Many places now have "school based management" as their model -- should admin be required to have business background? #edchat geraldaungst 1/25/11 12:45 PM @edtechsteve And we don't allow schools to use creative problem solving to improve ed. Only the govt approved programs. #edchat daveandcori 1/25/11 12:45 PM Surveys show that businesses want problem solvers, independent/motivated workers, with good communication skills. #edchat fliegs 1/25/11 12:45 PM realized. @daveandcori #edchat @ericjuli Very good point. Way harder than I

bellaale 1/25/11 12:45 PM RT @Smichael920: #edchat imp to remember as schools we're about collaboration not competition. Not always the case in business pete_rodrigues 1/25/11 12:45 PM I think people have problems with businesses seeing schools as money-makers: txtbks, stndtesting, etc #edchat CTuckerEnglish 1/25/11 12:45 PM Defining "profit" is a crucial step in the process of deciding how to accurately assess that profit. What are we truly assessing? #edchat sram_socrates 1/25/11 12:45 PM @juandoming OK, but that is more of a regional requirement, to sustain a business - we have similar relationships here in AB #edchat ian23505 1/25/11 12:45 PM @ericjuli Agreed. Managing (or micromanaging) is easy. Leading is the real challenge. #edchat edtechsteve 1/25/11 12:46 PM I'm still looking for a business that judges it's employees' performance based on standardized tests. #edchat jonbergmann 1/25/11 12:46 PM RT @cybraryman1: How do we get businesses to work with schools? #edchat daveandcori 1/25/11 12:46 PM @VanessaSCassie Not necc - but some management training is a must - not enough in Ed Leadership programs. #edchat juandoming 1/25/11 12:46 PM RT @cybraryman1: How do we get businesses to work with schools? #edchat marcelamomberg 1/25/11 12:46 PM get businesses to work with schools? #edchat RT @cybraryman1: How do we

juandoming 1/25/11 12:46 PM @cybraryman1 @sram_socrates @ImagineLearning Well, would not be talking now that verifications companies money, for what? #edchat rliberni ltr #edchat 1/25/11 12:46 PM @RobertSAllen1 had quick look will c @daveandcori You forgot to add How do we get businesses to work

ian23505 1/25/11 12:46 PM bubble filling to that list ;) #edchat cybraryman1 1/25/11 with schools? #edchat 12:46 PM

jonbergmann 1/25/11 12:46 PM RT @fliegs: #edchat imp to remember as schools were about collaboration not competition. Not always the case in business #edchat daveandcori 1/25/11 12:46 PM CBIA survey a couple of years ago showed many businesses need trades, not college grads - machining, electrician, etc are lacking #edchat GiftedJourney 1/25/11 12:46 PM @cybraryman1 Many businesses keenly interested in promoting critical thinkers. Silos btwn businesses & educators hurt students. #edchat informed_edu 1/25/11 12:46 PM Encouraging business to be involved in education might encourage more responsibly business practice perhaps? #edchat PLANETPALS 1/25/11 12:46 PM 2011 the year of the forest! Class units coming http://plpls.com/eK0bnK #teachpreschool #edchat #homed #tt #eco ericjuli1/25/11 12:46 PM @ian23505 The move to put business into leadership positions implies we value the managing over the instructional leadership #edchat sram_socrates 1/25/11 12:46 PM together - in a relationship #edchat @rliberni exactly, working

daveandcori 1/25/11 12:47 PM @ericjuli Many admin don't do much "education" - they need to manage and lead - and need training in both. #edchat geraldaungst 1/25/11 12:47 PM @chulitt Then why aren't all businesses like Apple and Google? Many businesses try and fail. Can we tolerate that in ed? #edchat web20education 1/25/11 12:47 PM #PLN Join free TESOL EVO 2011 #village11 (Virtual Language Learning and Group Experience) http://luciandumateachweb20.eu/page4.php #edchat MertonTech 1/25/11 12:47 PM @JenVonId It takes a new generation of leadership, and a new generation of teacher qualifications. #edchat rliberni 1/25/11 12:47 PM RT @fliegs: @jonbergmann Invite business to be part of a process led by educators. Local connections. @cybraryman1 #edchat DianneSpencer 1/25/11 12:47 PM RT @edtechsteve: I'm still looking for a business that judges it's employees' performance based on standardized tests. #edchat fliegs 1/25/11 12:47 PM @ericjuli Totally true. #edchat

akilbello 1/25/11 12:47 PM Pay market rates. Pay on time. Dont make bad exclusive deals. RT @cybraryman1: How do we get businesses to work with schools? #edchat rliberni 1/25/11 12:47 PM two EQUAL partners #edchat It has to b a level playing field with

rdlln 1/25/11 12:47 PM @cybraryman1 @sram_socrates #edchat Don't know that it would make much of a difference. In many cases the money isn't the problem. fliegs 1/25/11 12:47 PM @jonbergmann Invite business to be part of a process led by educators. Local connections. @cybraryman1 #edchat oswego98 1/25/11 12:47 PM RT @edtechsteve: I'm still looking for a business that judges it's employees' performance based on standardized tests. #edchat jagkise 1/25/11 12:47 PM @VanessaSCassie I have an EdD and MBA. The MBA did not train a person to lead a school in any way. #edchat ian23505 1/25/11 12:47 PM @ericjuli Or that someone out there thinks that managers will somehow pick up the art and science of teaching to become inst. ldrs. #edchat ericjuli1/25/11 12:47 PM @fliegs I can manage all day and feel successful. But real change and growth comes from the instructional leadership skill set #edchat slaleman 1/25/11 12:47 PM Or military(also a public service)RT @sram_socrates: Imagine if gov spent the same money bailing out business as it did on education #edchat daveandcori 1/25/11 12:47 PM @ericjuli In my experience, many admin don't have basic mgmnt skills - they are unorganized and don't know how to deal with people #edchat rliberni 1/25/11 12:47 PM RT @marcelamomberg: RT @cybraryman1: How do we get businesses to work with schools? #edchat fliegs 1/25/11 12:47 PM @VanessaSCassie Please no. Admin need to be educators to really lead a school. Site-based management skills need to be learned. #edchat rliberni 1/25/11 12:47 PM & more willing to get involved #edchat @txlibraryguy agreed but r often local

davidwees 1/25/11 12:47 PM Want teachers to trust your business more? Fine: Help clean this up => http://is.gd/EYdjVo #edchat #environmentalism VanessaSCassie 1/25/11 12:48 PM @jagkise Good point. So what DOES lead to a good leader? Are we back to the old saying "great leaders are born, not made?" #edchat rliberni 1/25/11 12:48 PM RT @jrussellteacher: RT @jonbergmann: Profit=All students learning at a level commensurate with their ability, goals, and dreams. #edchat rdlln 1/25/11 12:48 PM @cybraryman1 @sram_socrates Look at Zuckerberg's donation in Newark. Call me a pessimist, but I don't see it helping. #edchat jagkise 1/25/11 12:48 PM @fliegs @VanessaSCassie Site-based mgmt isn't new. Often it's lip service in small areas that take time, District still controls. #edchat mbaprogrms 1/25/11 12:48 PM With education, we need this kind of thinking to produce structures/curriculum/reform for today's new environment, like technology #edchat rliberni 1/25/11 12:48 PM @jagkise but an edu degree PLUS an MBA may allow u to think differently? #edchat juandoming 1/25/11 12:48 PM @sram_socrates Indeed, but if we talk about education that is not a business, if statement, yes #juandon #edchat #education ian23505 1/25/11 12:48 PM @daveandcori You do have to have both mgmt. and inst. ldrshp. skills. If the day to day operation is a mess then the rest will fail. #edchat informed_edu 1/25/11 12:48 PM @ian23505 @ericjuli Maybe not education leaders, but at least they have a place on the board surely? #edchat fliegs 1/25/11 12:48 PM Funny. RT @edtechsteve: Im still looking for a business that judges its employees performance based on standardized tests. #edchat jrussellteacher 1/25/11 12:48 PM RT @jonbergmann: Profit=All students learning at a level commensurate with their ability, goals, and dreams. #edchat cybraryman1 1/25/11 12:48 PM field with two EQUAL partners #edchat RT @rliberni: It has to b a level playing

edReformer 1/25/11 12:48 PM Miami University: emphasis on teacher preparation with mobile learning #edreform #edchat #unbound http://bit.ly/18Zi79 SpecialEdAdvice 1/25/11 12:48 PM My husband's story and how he learned acceptance of others | #SpecialEd Advisor http://t.co/LTb1ovY #IEP #epilepsy #autism #spedchat #edchat JenVonId 1/25/11 12:48 PM @ImagineLearning They know what they are NOT getting in future employees. I think the money would be earmarked for specific things #edchat VanessaSCassie 1/25/11 12:48 PM @fliegs @daveandcori I agree that Ed exp. is obviously needed, but seen too many principals who have no exp. w/things like budgeting #edchat ClassroomSoothe 1/25/11 12:48 PM RT @ToddAHoffman: What good teacher professional-development programs are doing http://sbne.ws/r/6AUB #edchat #edtech @compasslearning jonbergmann 1/25/11 12:48 PM We bet biz to work with schls by inviting them in-especially to our innovative and exemplary programs. Then they will buy in #edchat CTuckerEnglish 1/25/11 12:48 PM Ironic- educators are asked to prepare students for "real world" yet teachers do not have access to current technology to do so #edchat mbaprogrms 1/25/11 12:48 PM Businesses are good at what they do-continually changing with what they think they customer wants #edchat ericjuli1/25/11 12:48 PM @ian23505 As if you could pick it up, just by virtue of having attended school yourself #edchat MSMS_tech 1/25/11 12:49 PM RT @PBSTeachers: Teachers! Watch the SOTU tonight, then ask Sec. Duncan your educ. questions. http://to.pbs.org/SOTU11 FETC #edchat ATSLearn 1/25/11 12:49 PM RT @CTuckerEnglish: Ironiceducators are asked to prepare students for "real world" yet teachers do not have access to current technology to do so #edchat Mamacita 1/25/11 12:49 PM We can't eliminate attitude/behavioral/parenting problems by throwing money at them. #edchat Kid who tears up book will tear up a computer. joe_bower 1/25/11 12:49 PM Middle Years Conference 2011 http://bit.ly/eyLWZf #abed #edchat #edtech

sram_socrates 1/25/11 12:49 PM @rdlln I will have to take a look before I can comment on what is happening there #edchat edReformer 1/25/11 12:49 PM RT @pesky: OH Connections Academy is amazing cost effective model but locals feel $$ is "going away." We need comprehensive model. #edchat #edreform VanessaSCassie 1/25/11 12:49 PM @jagkise Sorry, I meant new to the area I taught in...as in, less than 10 years old #edchat jagkise 1/25/11 12:49 PM @VanessaSCassie @fliegs @daveandcori Budgeting is an easy-to-learn skill vs instructional leadership!! #edchat CTuckerEnglish 1/25/11 12:49 PM Teacher cred programs r being rated 4 1st time, yet technology integration/innovation is not on the list of things being assessed. #edchat jheil65 1/25/11 12:49 PM RT @web20classroom: Collection Of #CreativeCommons Directories: http://bit.ly/cEJ9ic #jccstech #edtech #edchat fliegs 1/25/11 12:49 PM @VanessaSCassie Few principals have experience with any of the management tasks. Must learn. Or hire both manager and instr. leader #edchat daveandcori 1/25/11 12:49 PM @k_shelton @VanessaSCassie Management training in ed? I'd like to see some management classes added to Ed Leadership programs. #edchat wmchamberlain 1/25/11 12:49 PM @rliberni @cybraryman1 @jonbergmann @schoolsEDU @ian23505 Need to decide when to start "training" #edchat ian23505 1/25/11 12:49 PM @ericjuli Don't think so deeply. It's not going to school they are counting on. It's osmosis :) #edchat GiftedJourney 1/25/11 12:49 PM @nsharoff "let's take the best of all & put it together" Agreed! Do what works! #edchat hackhighschool 1/25/11 12:49 PM @fliegs but what if we treated students as customers who have a choice in what they buy? Would educators be driven yo higher quality #edchat ericjuli1/25/11 12:50 PM @daveandcori "Many" in your experience-My admin colleagues and I need to understand nuances of instruction to lead well #edchat cybraryman1 1/25/11 12:50 PM We cannot just throw more money in. Need planning, training and support #edchat

fliegs 1/25/11 12:50 PM @jagkise I agree. Many management tasks are easy to learn. Instr ldr much harder. #edchat rliberni 1/25/11 12:50 PM RT @jagkise: @VanessaSCassie There are so many kinds of good leaders. We all need to lead from our strengths, but ldrs often want clones #edchat txlibraryguy 1/25/11 12:50 PM @rliberni #edchat. Local change with school-biz partnerships have much greater potential than big corp national initiatives. janastasiow 1/25/11 12:50 PM RT @Mamacita: We can't eliminate attitude/behavioral/parenting problems by throwing money at them. #edchat Kid who tears up book will tear up a computer. fionamau 1/25/11 12:50 PM RT @davidwees: @informed_edu "I know best & I'm going 2 force top-down approach even tho I've read no research & am not an educator" #edchat jagkise 1/25/11 12:50 PM @VanessaSCassie There are so many kinds of good leaders. We all need to lead from our strengths, but ldrs often want clones #edchat VanessaSCassie 1/25/11 12:50 PM @jagkise @fliegs @daveandcori Easy-to-learn for some; for others, the learning curve can have a huge impact on the schl temporarily #edchat fliegs 1/25/11 12:50 PM @hackhighschool Use some customer service skills, yes. But, they are not buying something. They are growing and learning. Different #edchat web20education 1/25/11 12:50 PM RT @daveandcori: @VanessaSCassie Management training in ed? Id like to see some management classes added to Ed Leadership programs. #edchat lisalearner 1/25/11 12:50 PM @ericjuli @ian23505 in education, as with any organization, managing is as important as anything, incl instructional leadership #edchat ViSandford 1/25/11 12:50 PM A great community effort to support literacy. "Canmore-based comic company telling Canadian stories." http://ow.ly/3JZt7 #abed #edchat eSchoolNews 1/25/11 12:50 PM Future murky for virtual classrooms http://ow.ly/3JPUF #elearning #edtech #edchat juandoming 1/25/11 12:50 PM @rliberni @fliegs @jonbergmann @cybraryman1 Educators will never be part of a business, instructors, if #juandon #edchat

daveandcori 1/25/11 12:50 PM I have cert and exper in management & started MS in Mngmnt of Tech before becoming educator. Many of those skills are needed in educ #edchat k_shelton 1/25/11 12:50 PM @daveandcori @VanessaSCassie Yes management training in Ed. Educational Leadership more specifically. #edchat lisalearner 1/25/11 12:51 PM @k_shelton @daveandcori @VanessaSCassie management training is important but can it replace real-life experience? #edchat sram_socrates 1/25/11 12:51 PM RT @slaleman: Or military(also a public service)RT : Imagine if gov spent the same money bailing out business as it did on education #edchat jagkise 1/25/11 12:51 PM @VanessaSCassie @fliegs @daveandcori But so much easier to mentor someone in budget skills than observation, expectations, etc. #edchat slaleman 1/25/11 12:51 PM RT @CTuckerEnglish: Ironiceducators asked to prep students for "real world" yet tchrs don't have access to current tech to do so #edchat CTuckerEnglish 1/25/11 12:51 PM Very true! RT @VanessaSCassie: Or tchrs! Most stdts think stndrdizd exams were an accurate msuremnt of result or of tchr success #edchat MertonTech 1/25/11 12:51 PM @jagkise Why are we so worried about educating leaders? There are far more followrs than leadrs in the world, and they are important #edchat Stutz01 1/25/11 12:51 PM RT @edtechsteve: I'm still looking for a business that judges it's employees' performance based on standardized tests. #edchat frankcrawford 1/25/11 12:51 PM If we teachers learn our way through change fast enough in our day2day work, we will be ahead of the curve of change in the world.#edchat VanessaSCassie 1/25/11 12:51 PM @daveandcori I think that it's a balance...need admin that are strong leaders, have training in basic mngment skills & strong Ed exp #edchat chulitt 1/25/11 12:51 PM @geraldaungst Certainly not. Unfortunately it's bound to happen. World peace is ideal, but highly unlikely #edchat

sram_socrates 1/25/11 12:51 PM RT @cybraryman1: We cannot just throw more money in. Need planning, training and support #edchat - a direction and goal - agree RobertSAllen1 1/25/11 12:51 PM based compensation for teachers :) @fliegs #edchat performance

jagkise 1/25/11 12:51 PM @rliberni MBA brings awareness of real carrots and sticks, lack of ed focus on issues that would change our profession #edchat ian23505 1/25/11 12:51 PM @lisalearner Agreed. You have to have both. In my experience weak inst. leaders overfocus on management, easy to "control". #edchat rliberni 1/25/11 12:51 PM @txlibraryguy agree & they're probably far more flexible and cooperative in their approach too #edchat informed_edu 1/25/11 12:51 PM @web20education @daveandcori @VanessaSCassie I'd like to see education classes in management programs! #edchat jagkise 1/25/11 12:52 PM @MertonTech I don't know any born leaders, only leaders who learned by observing, learning, taking risks, getting advice, #edchat fliegs 1/25/11 12:52 PM @jagkise You are right. Educators should be able to learn instr leadership much faster than others. #edchat VanessaSCassie 1/25/11 12:52 PM @jagkise @fliegs @daveandcori Therein lies the problem -- how much can really be mentored for admin? Best ones I know were just good #edchat frankcrawford 1/25/11 12:52 PM When the world moves faster than schools we get imbalance. We need to learn our way through change to bring us back into line. #edchat informed_edu 1/25/11 12:52 PM RT @rliberni: @jagkise I did an MBA then continued to work in edu & found some of the skills v useful - I already had edu exp & qualifics #edchat ericjuli1/25/11 12:52 PM @informed_edu Sure. Much to learn from each other-I just want education to be viewed as requiring skill and training to do well #edchat rliberni 1/25/11 12:52 PM @jagkise I did an MBA then continued to work in edu & found some of the skills v useful - I already had edu exp & qualifics #edchat

fionamau 1/25/11 12:52 PM That last tweet sounded like most government decisions eg getting rid o sport, providing a laptop /child but no storage in school... #edchat cmcgee200 1/25/11 12:52 PM Anyone have a student blog that needs some #comments4kids? I have commenting day this friday #edchat #ntchat VanessaSCassie 1/25/11 12:52 PM @rliberni Ahhh..the cookie cutter issue. Happens. All. The. Time. #frustrating to see clones of what's not working! :) #edchat fliegs 1/25/11 #edchat 12:52 PM @RobertSAllen1 Sarcastic or for real?

geraldaungst 1/25/11 12:53 PM @chulitt Which is why ed needs its own model. We can learn from business, but can't adopt their approach wholesale. #edchat VanessaSCassie 1/25/11 12:53 PM @jagkise @MertonTech I'd argue that I know lots of natural leaders...those that you can't really explain why they're so good :) #edchat ShellTerrell 1/25/11 12:53 PM RT @edtechsteve: I'm still looking for a business that judges it's employees' performance based on standardized tests. #edchat fliegs 1/25/11 12:53 PM @VanessaSCassie Probably had a lot more mentoring than you knew about. Maybe informal. Who knows. Most good leaders are not solo #edchat edudemic 1/25/11 12:53 PM http://t.co/mp149Mf #edchat #edtech 15 Terrific Educational Web Apps

VanessaSCassie 1/25/11 12:53 PM @lisalearner @k_shelton @daveandcori I definitely agree that real exp. is essential...just see some basic mngmnt skills lacking #edchat ian23505 1/25/11 12:53 PM @lisalearner Not in my opinion. Training is good, experience is better. A course cannot capture all of the ins and outs of leading. #edchat rliberni 1/25/11 12:53 PM RT @jagkise: @MertonTech I don't know any born leaders, only leaders who learned by observing, learning, taking risks, getting advice, #edchat callm3mzpoetry 1/25/11 http://tinyurl.com/nlggqh 12:53 PM Searched Twitter for #edchat:

ShellTerrell 1/25/11 12:53 PM RT @rliberni: RT @marcelamomberg: RT @cybraryman1: How do we get businesses to work with schools? #edchat informed_edu 1/25/11 12:53 PM RT @jagkise: @MertonTech I don't know any born leaders, only leaders who learned by observing, learning, taking risks, getting advice, #edchat JenVonId 1/25/11 12:53 PM RT @MertonTech: @JenVonId It takes a new generation of leadership, and a new generation of teacher qualifications. #edchat That is does. lisalearner 1/25/11 12:54 PM Completely agree! RT @ian23505 Training is good, experience is better. A course cannot capture all the ins and outs of leading. #edchat fionamau 1/25/11 12:54 PM RT @informed_edu: The more opinions in the education melting pot the better - the state should have no monopoly. #edchat JenVonId 1/25/11 12:54 PM Great conversation going on at #edchat. Great ideas on business leaders leading schools...as well as other ideas for education! cmcgee200 1/25/11 12:54 PM @wmchamberlain I ABSOLUTELY WILL #edchat Comments4kids.blogspot.com ddeubel 1/25/11 12:54 PM RT @ImagineLearning: @sram_socrates @sram_socrates Imagine if the govt spent the same $$ on education as it spends in Afghanistan in a month! #edchat VanessaSCassie 1/25/11 12:54 PM @fliegs Makes sense. The problem is that many admin are "promoted" before they're truly ready or w/o good support in place #edchat misternaxal 1/25/11 12:54 PM RT @txlibraryguy: business got what it wanted in past, graduates that showed up on time for mindless work. Now biz wants thinkers, not so easy #edchat jagkise 1/25/11 12:54 PM @ericjuli @informed_edu I agree. Public needs to understand for ex. Deborah Ball on particularity of knowledge math teachers need! #edchat RobertSAllen1 1/25/11 12:54 PM @fliegs #edchat for real we have to start somehwere good things don't come easy and it won't take long to "catch up" informed_edu 1/25/11 12:55 PM RT @rliberni: Maybe tchrs should go into businesses and vice versa to observe & learn? #edchat

sram_socrates 1/25/11 12:55 PM @juandoming I believe the we should educate, and that it can be influenced by business, but not control or dictated by business #edchat VanessaSCassie 1/25/11 12:55 PM @lisalearner @ian23505 Completely agree! I just think that some training is necessary #edchat fionamau 1/25/11 12:55 PM RT @davidwees: The goal of education shld b2 create whole people,not cogs in the consumerism machine.How can we ensure this happens? #edchat cybraryman1 1/25/11 12:55 PM RT @ian23505 Training is good, experience is better. A course cannot capture all the ins and outs of leading. #edchat JenVonId 1/25/11 12:55 PM RT @RobertSAllen1: RT @edworkspartners: RT @WorldofLearning: For more information on the Learning #Unbound summit, visit http://bit.ly/9h1n3I #edchat jagkise 1/25/11 12:55 PM @VanessaSCassie @MertonTech The great leaders I interview can name their mentors, influencers, learning experiences. #edchat jberthume 1/25/11 12:55 PM RT @txlibraryguy: business got what it wanted in past, graduates that showed up on time for mindless work. Now biz wants thinkers, not so easy #edchat RobertSAllen1 1/25/11 12:55 PM RT @edworkspartners: RT @WorldofLearning: For more information on the Learning #Unbound summit, visit http://bit.ly/9h1n3I #edchat fliegs 1/25/11 12:55 PM @VanessaSCassie For sure. Good point about needing good support - a must. #edchat GiftedJourney 1/25/11 12:55 PM consider ideas, collaboration. Be open-minded. Don't only ask for $$,

rliberni 1/25/11 12:55 PM Maybe tchrs should go into businesses and vice versa to observe & learn? #edchat RobertSAllen1 1/25/11 12:55 PM @davidwees #edchat gotcha I was think part of a movement or machine or gears of change :) MertonTech 1/25/11 12:56 PM @jagkise I'm not saying that leaders are not important. I'm saying that a great leader is only as good as the people who follow them #edchat chulitt 1/25/11 12:56 PM one company's model? #edchat @geraldaungst Do you think we should adopt

edtechsteve 1/25/11 12:56 PM In business and in life, achievement is defined by....achieving. Performance by....performing. Not so in schools #edchat JenVonId 1/25/11 12:56 PM Its stuff like this that keeps me interested in education, while my career is in transition from teacher to adminstrator #edchat cybraryman1 1/25/11 12:56 PM RT @GiftedJourney: Be open-minded. Dont only ask for $$, consider ideas, collaboration. #edchat VanessaSCassie 1/25/11 12:56 PM @jagkise What about little kids who just naturally lead a group? Sure they had influences but I think it's sometimes personality #edchat ksharpedallas 1/25/11 12:56 PM Teaching with Super Bowl coverage: Graphic Organizers, Listicles http://conta.cc/h6OXwS #elearning #edchat #edtech #dfw_nie #teaching hktv 1/25/11 12:56 PM Teach finance early. Make em hungry. @rliberni: RT @marcelamomberg: RT @cybraryman1: How do we get businesses to work with schools? #edchat jagkise 1/25/11 12:56 PM @rliberni Some of my best courses had teachers and business people together #edchat sram_socrates 1/25/11 12:56 PM @edtechsteve I think that we can learn from each other, both have great things to offer #edchat bruno_cesar82 1/25/11 12:56 PM RT @Moacir2: RT @rliberni: Maybe tchrs should go into businesses and vice versa to observe & learn? #edchat slaleman 1/25/11 12:56 PM Business rewards creative thinkers. Standardized testing...not so much #edchat MertonTech 1/25/11 12:56 PM @jagkise #edchat Of course they can. But did every person who was touched by that mentor become a good leader? ericjuli1/25/11 12:56 PM @jagkise Deborah Ball and math knowledge is a great example-need to shift the dialogue to examples beyond just management #edchat ShaunJay 1/25/11 12:56 PM just read-"this accounting class is wasting my time. she's not teaching anything in a way i am able to follow- need to teach myself" #edchat Moacir2 1/25/11 12:56 PM RT @rliberni: Maybe tchrs should go into businesses and vice versa to observe & learn? #edchat

juandoming 1/25/11 12:56 PM 15 Terrific Educational Web Apps http://t.co/827fJn5 v-a @edudemic #juandon #edchat #edtech #education #elearning edtechsteve 1/25/11 12:56 PM I think ed can learn from businesses, I just think our policymakers are learning the wrong lessons and ideas #edchat VanessaSCassie 1/25/11 12:57 PM @ian23505 I love that! "Experience is really the test of my training" #edchat rliberni 1/25/11 12:57 PM better, different viewpoints #edchat @jagkise yes, mixed groups are often

juandoming 1/25/11 12:57 PM @sram_socrates Exactly so, yes, but then companies may not have control of education, it must be universal #edchat #juandon HarryVonHonks 1/25/11 12:57 PM from #edchat some very interesting stuff I'm enjoying reading the tweets

RobertSAllen1 1/25/11 12:57 PM RT @RobertSAllen1: @fionamau whole people will be created if we allow change to happen. we are currently a cog factory! @davidwees #edchat ShellTerrell 1/25/11 12:57 PM RT @sram_socrates: I believe we should educate, and that it can be influenced by business, but not control or dictated by business #edchat ShellTerrell 1/25/11 12:57 PM RT @sram_socrates: I believe we should educate, and that it can be influenced by business, but not control or dictated by business #edchat jagkise 1/25/11 12:57 PM RT @sram_socrates @juandoming I believe we should educate, and that it can be influenced by business, not dictated by business #edchat VanessaSCassie 1/25/11 12:57 PM @bruno_cesar82 @Moacir2 @rliberni Interesting question- I'm on the "other side" now (business related to ed) & have new observations #edchat VanessaSCassie 1/25/11 12:57 PM @bruno_cesar82 @Moacir2 @rliberni Interesting question- I'm on the "other side" now (business related to ed) & have new observations #edchat lisalearner 1/25/11 12:57 PM @VanessaSCassie @fliegs truth is, almost every promotion comes b4 someone is prepared (in bus. and edu)--need support 4 succcess #edchat

informed_edu 1/25/11 12:57 PM @chulitt: @geraldaungst Do you think we should adopt one company's model? #edchat <- no! experiment, innovate. ShellTerrell 1/25/11 12:57 PM RT @edtechsteve: I think ed can learn from businesses, I just think our policymakers are learning the wrong lessons and ideas #edchat ian23505 1/25/11 12:57 PM @VanessaSCassie Totally agree. You need both training and experience. I find that experience is really the test of my training! #edchat cybraryman1 1/25/11 12:57 PM RT @slaleman: Business rewards creative thinkers. Standardized testing...not so much #edchat rliberni 1/25/11 12:58 PM @Moacir2 good point & I think tchrs often do a disservice here to their students #edchat juandoming 1/25/11 12:58 PM RT @ShellTerrell: RT @sram_socrates: I believe we should educate, and that it can be influenced by business, but not control or dictated by business #edchat VanessaSCassie 1/25/11 12:58 PM @fliegs @lisalearner Good point (re: promotions). Support is key - and to take it a step further, the RIGHT kind of support :) #edchat jagkise 1/25/11 12:58 PM RT @VanessaSCassie: @ian23505 I love that! "Experience is really the test of my training" #edchat JenVonId 1/25/11 12:58 PM I'm not saying that leaders R not important. I'm saying that a gr8 leader is only as gd as the ppl who follow them #edchat totally agree u 2 amweston 1/25/11 12:58 PM RT @frankcrawford: When the world moves faster than schools we get imbalance. We need to learn our way through change to bring us back into line. #edchat ejulez 1/25/11 12:58 PM @edtechsteve changed how i grade to reflect performance/achievement. It terrifies my students b/c they're not used to it. #edchat cybraryman1 1/25/11 12:58 PM business with best in Ed? #edchat Should we merge best practices in

ShellTerrell 1/25/11 12:58 PM Agree! RT @cybraryman1: Yes our focus should be on training students to be critical thinkers #edchat jagkise 1/25/11 12:58 PM @MertonTech I agree as long as it's a given that leaders do influence the potential in followers :) #edchat

ian23505 1/25/11 12:58 PM RT @ShellTerrell: RT @edtechsteve: I think ed can learn from bus., I think our policymakers are lrnng the wrong lessons and ideas #edchat dakotasmbtx 1/25/11 12:58 PM RT @WeAreTeachers: RT @sram_socrates: Imagine if gov spent the same money bailing out business as it did on education #edchat ShellTerrell 1/25/11 12:58 PM RT @cybraryman1: We cannot just throw more money in. Need planning, training and support #edchat amweston 1/25/11 12:58 PM RT @frankcrawford: If we teachers learn our way through change fast enough in our day2day work, we will be ahead of the curve of change in the world.#edchat davidwees 1/25/11 12:58 PM @RobertSAllen1 @fionamau I don't see the school I work in as a cog factory. #edchat fliegs 1/25/11 12:58 PM @lisalearner Sure. Much of good leadership is learned only by experience. #edchat gericoats 1/25/11 12:58 PM what's the topic? #edchat

jagkise 1/25/11 12:59 PM @cybraryman1 Business and ed don't serve same market or purpose. Some best practices transfer, others are dangerous #edchat techmunoz 1/25/11 12:59 PM RT @cybraryman1: Should we merge best practices in business with best in Ed? #edchat web20education 1/25/11 12:59 PM 15 Terrific Educational Web Apps via @edudemic #edtech20 #pln #elearning #edchat #pln #elt #lrnchat #efl #elt http://amplify.com/u/anm08 rliberni 1/25/11 12:59 PM Don't forget to follow @jswiatek fro the archive of this chat. Summaries are a bit behind at the mo but we'll catch up soon! #edchat wmchamberlain 1/25/11 12:59 PM professions too or just "business"? #edchat @cybraryman1 Do we cater to

edtechsteve 1/25/11 12:59 PM @ejulez That's what I've seen too, and it's a big problem- kids now don't know any different than to accept it. Crazy. #edchat evmaiden 1/25/11 12:59 PM I think @chrislehmann makes a good point bout the stark difference between creating citizens and preparing a workforce #edchat

juandoming 1/25/11 12:59 PM RT @jagkise: RT @sram_socrates @juandoming I believe we should educate, and that it can be influenced by business, not dictated by business #edchat MertonTech 1/25/11 12:59 PM @jagkise #edchat Yes. Good followers will recognize good leaders and support them. They see good leaders as people who bring out their best informed_edu 1/25/11 12:59 PM RT @cybraryman1: Should we merge best practices in business with best in Ed? #edchat <- or indeed can we? the answer will be 'sometimes' JenVonId 1/25/11 12:59 PM RT @HarryVonHonks: I'm enjoying reading the tweets from #edchat some very interesting stuff. I agree whole heartedly! gericoats 1/25/11 change? #edchat 12:59 PM @ejulez how did you make the

JenVonId 1/25/11 1:00 PM RT @cybraryman1: Should we merge best practices in business with best in Ed? #edchat Agreed. one of my classes was all about this gericoats 1/25/11 1:00 PM @VanessaSCassie me too! teachers stick around, but the leadership really does change things #edchat fliegs 1/25/11 1:00 PM @JenVonId Most schools have pretty good people in them. Most teachers are pretty good or better. When well led even better. #edchat baizpetia 1/25/11 1:00 PM And FB founder? private schools many! RT @WeAreTeachers RT @rliberni: Has anybody got good examoles of business investment in edu? #edchat VanessaSCassie 1/25/11 1:00 PM RT @rliberni: Dont forget to follow @jswiatek for the archive of chat. Summaries are a bit behind at the mo but well catch up soon! #edchat just_1x1/25/11 1:00 PM Teachers! The "Just One Time" student assembly saves lives! www.just1x.com #edchat ericjuli1/25/11 1:00 PM Thanks all for a thoughtful #edchat

rliberni 1/25/11 1:00 PM RT @jagkise: @cybraryman1 Business and ed don't serve same market or purpose. Some best practices transfer, others are dangerous #edchat

lsleung 1/25/11 1:00 PM Problem with business model for education is there is no meaningful metric for learning profit=quantitative learning=qualitative #edchat HarryVonHonks 1/25/11 1:00 PM RT @ShellTerrell: Agree! RT @cybraryman1: Yes our focus should be on training students to be critical thinkers #edchat MertonTech 1/25/11 1:00 PM @jagkise #edchat I've seen so many poor leaders who put themselves into leadership positions, and people just let them take them CoachInTheLab 1/25/11 1:00 PM Have you HEARD about what's happening to education in Idaho?! #edchat http://bit.ly/h5EmRf uscedu67 1/25/11 1:00 PM RT @ShellTerrell: Agree! RT @cybraryman1: Yes our focus should be on training students to be critical thinkers #edchat rliberni 1/25/11 1:00 PM RT @wmchamberlain: @cybraryman1 Do we cater to professions too or just "business"? #edchat jheil65 1/25/11 1:00 PM Google Apps Stocks Its Marketplace Full of Educational Apps by @audreywatters http://t.co/CJdc4NX via @RWW #jccstech #edchat ian23505 1/25/11 1:00 PM Gotta run folks! Thanks for keeping me thinking! @fliegs @riberni @lisalearner @ericjuli @informed_edu @davidwees @vanessascassie #edchat elearnchat 1/25/11 1:00 PM #elearnchat is live in 3..2..1.. www.justin.tv/relatecorp #astd #lrnchat #edchat #blogchat #live VanessaSCassie 1/25/11 1:00 PM @JenVonId Interesting idea. I worked on a staff that had 3 dif. admin in 5 yrs...same followers, but dif. leader made ALL the diff #edchat informed_edu 1/25/11 1:01 PM RT @ian23505: Gotta run folks! Tx 4 keeping me thinking! @fliegs @riberni @lisalearner @ericjuli @informed_edu @davidwees #edchat <Thanks! MertonTech 1/25/11 1:01 PM Thanks to all for the #edchat

NCSSNetwork1/25/11 1:01 PM RT @PBSTeachers: Teachers! Watch the SOTU tonight, then ask Sec. Duncan your educ. questions. http://to.pbs.org/SOTU11 FETC #edchat

gericoats 1/25/11 1:01 PM RT Most schools have pretty good people in them. Most teachers are pretty good or better. When well led even better. #edchat fliegs 1/25/11 1:01 PM and the moderators. Great fun today in this chat. Thank you to all

HOPEinSchools 1/25/11 1:01 PM Our first efforts, 20 yrs ago, involvd expert W. Edwards Deming, MITs Peter Senge, CEOs, governors and major educational leaders. #edchat sram_socrates 1/25/11 1:01 PM @juandoming Thank you, I look forward to many more interesting and and engaging conversations #edchat cybraryman1 1/25/11 1:01 PM moderate with you #edchat @rliberni Always a pleasure to co

jagkise 1/25/11 1:01 PM RT @evmaiden I think @chrislehmann makes a good point bout the stark difference between creating citizens and preparing a workforce #edchat lisalearner 1/25/11 1:01 PM should be like a good startup/investor relationship: both bring expertise to the table and then work toward common goal #edchat edtechsteve 1/25/11 1:01 PM RT @wmchamberlain: @cybraryman1 Do we cater to professions too or just "business"? <--Good point #edchat jsommermeyer 1/25/11 1:01 PM Air Sketch... Educational game changing app #edtech #edchat #iPad wowowow HOPEinSchools 1/25/11 1:02 PM Thanks again, #edchat. Quality stuff and great discussion / collaboration going on! rliberni 1/25/11 1:02 PM Excellent chat today! Thanks to my fab co-moderator @cybraryman1 who did it all on the go! #edchat CoachInTheLab 1/25/11 1:02 PM Does anyone else have Look2Learning in their school district? #edchat techmunoz 1/25/11 1:02 PM Like I've read from many today, edu needs to learn better use of budgeting. Too much waste. #edchat teachersnet 1/25/11 1:02 PM Use "essential questions" to improve instruction http://bit.ly/f3Md0t #edchat #elemchat #ntchat #curriculum jagkise 1/25/11 1:02 PM I really haven't met school leaders who can't be coached for better performance. If coached as executives are coached. I do both #edchat

hktv 1/25/11 1:02 PM RT @ShellTerrell: RT @sram_socrates: I believe we should educate, and that it can be influenced by biz, but not dictated by biz #edchat wmchamberlain 1/25/11 1:02 PM How about we teach how to learn in K-12 and the colleges/universities/trade schools teach for business or professions? #edchat joecar 1/25/11 1:02 PM @frankcrawford #edchat Schools always behind curve new learning communities night be answer corporates are circling learning like vultures betavt 1/25/11 1:02 PM We need to explore new ways to work with business. The model is now to send kids to visit or to have business contribute/preach #edchat juandoming 1/25/11 1:02 PM @ShellTerrell @cybraryman1 Now that's education, but it is getting very expensive, we must find solutions to this #edchat CTuckerEnglish 1/25/11 1:03 PM It's crucial 2 transform classes into learning communities that engage in dynamic discussions. I love my online discussion platform! #edchat informed_edu 1/25/11 1:03 PM @rliberni @cybraryman1 Thanks to you both. My first #edchat, and really inspiring (only been tweeting since December - pls follow!) jagkise 1/25/11 1:03 PM @RUMBAONLINE @sram_socrates @juandoming Or is ed purpose to prepare citizens in a democracy? I don't work for a business!! #edchat VanessaSCassie 1/25/11 1:03 PM Thanks to @gericoats @ian23505 @lisalearner @jagkise @fliegs @ShaunJay @k_shelton @daveandcori for the awesome #edchat today! :) rliberni 1/25/11 1:03 PM RT @Moacir2: @rliberni @jagkise @cybraryman1 true but we're all consumers of goods and knowledge #edchat rliberni 1/25/11 1:03 PM RT @techmunoz: Like I've read from many today, edu needs to learn better use of budgeting. Too much waste. #edchat rliberni 1/25/11 1:04 PM @informed_edu HI & welcome plsd you enjoyed it will do. Thank you for ur input #teachertuesday! #edchat davidwees 1/25/11 1:04 PM Quora: Do you give homework to your students? http://qr.ae/H9Lk #edchat #assessment

swalker2 1/25/11 1:04 PM RT @evmaiden: I think @chrislehmann makes a good point bout the stark difference between creating citizens and preparing a workforce #edchat juandoming 1/25/11 1:04 PM @sram_socrates for me a pleasure and your disposition des Spain, followed again with interesting topics #juandon #edchat lisalearner 1/25/11 1:04 PM moderation @rliberni @cybraryman1 Thnx for the great #edchat and

sram_socrates 1/25/11 1:04 PM @RUMBAONLINE it is to open doors, engage thought and conversation not fill a glass and teach someone to push a button. #edchat sram_socrates 1/25/11 1:05 PM @jagkise @RUMBAONLINE i would agree to engage students to ask why, to seek more information and to seek information on their own #edchat juandoming 1/25/11 1:05 PM @RUMBAONLINE @jagkise @sram_socrates That's training (instruction) if education is to free critics. #edchat #juandon VanessaSCassie 1/25/11 1:05 PM RT @daveandcori: Need training in management and leadership and experience - mentoring, shadowing, something. Theory and Practice #edchat geraldaungst 1/25/11 1:05 PM @chulitt Definitely not. Neither should we expect one ed model to work for all schools and students. #edchat CTuckerEnglish 1/25/11 1:05 PM Business requires people w/ communication skills- in person and online- & problem solv abilities. These must be dev. in school #edchat daveandcori 1/25/11 1:05 PM Need training in management and leadership and experience - mentoring, shadowing, something. Theory and Practice #edchat RobertSAllen1 1/25/11 1:05 PM @juandoming #edchat @juandoming business holds the solutions and they are FREE :) see edmodo, twiducate, etc. ShellTerrell 1/25/11 1:06 PM RT @springrose12: schools should help students find their own path. They should improve students' emotional intelligence. #edchat

walterASCD 1/25/11 1:06 PM My New blog post: "Citizen-Educators It Is Time to Act" http://goo.gl/Sb7D2 #LILA11 #ASCD #WholeChildAdv #edchat #ASCDL2L web20education 1/25/11 1:06 PM Thanks @ShellTerrell @rliberni @cybraryman1 for moderating another gr8 session who share knowledge for teachers worldwide on #edchat ShellTerrell 1/25/11 1:06 PM RT @SErwin: agree, but also needs to be preparation as the progress. I see a lot of excuses & enabling where I am at. Doesnt prepare #Edchat cybraryman1 1/25/11 1:06 PM My iPad page http://cybraryman.com/ipad.html. Great device to use while on the road. Great chatting while my wife drives in Georgia #edchat MertonTech 1/25/11 1:06 PM @jagkise #edchat We are pretty overstaffed in useless middle-management. I think that problem will solve itself. :) jasontbedell 1/25/11 1:06 PM RT @davidwees: Quora: Do you give homework to your students? http://qr.ae/H9Lk #edchat #assessment TheHelpGroup 1/25/11 1:06 PM Video: "Innovative Technologies for Human-Robot Interaction with Children with Autism." http://on.fb.me/eNy3DY #spedchat #edchat AAlvaro1 1/25/11 1:07 PM RT @DoremiGirl: Help us with our #Educon conversation: Why integrate with the arts? http://is.gd/OfPIfk Pls RT! #musedchat #edchat #edtech #artsed jagkise 1/25/11 1:07 PM @web20education @ShellTerrell @rliberni @cybraryman1 Yes, Thanks for #edchat juandoming 1/25/11 1:07 PM @jagkise socrates Is to prepare citizens to improve themselves and society and whether they are able to produce well., better #edchat lisalearner 1/25/11 1:07 PM Thnx @vanessascassie @informed_edu @ian23505 @fliegs @davidwees @shawdave 4 the great #edchat. looking forward to learning more from you! GiftedJourney 1/25/11 1:07 PM @cybraryman1 Don't know about "merging" but borrow or re-apply where practices promote thinking, innovation, creativity. #edchat fionamau 1/25/11 1:07 PM RT @jagkise: @MertonTech I don't know any born leaders, only leaders who learned by observing, learning,taking risks, getting advice,#edchat

techmunoz 1/25/11 1:07 PM #edchat @juandoming business holds the solutions and they are FREE :) see edmodo, twiducate, etc.<--Love these apps in my classroom! reshanrichards 1/25/11 1:07 PM Looks very cool - simple and straightforward RT @jsommermeyer: Air Sketch... Educational game changing app #edtech #edchat #iPad wowowow JenVonId 1/25/11 1:07 PM #edchat Thanks everyone. I think todays discussion has inspired a new blog post Merging best practices of business and Education. CTuckerEnglish 1/25/11 1:07 PM They must see each other as resources too in this journey to seek knowledge. RT @sram_socrates: @jagkise @RUMBAONLINE i agree #edchat AAlvaro1 1/25/11 1:08 PM RT @web20classroom: All You Educational Chat Participants-We Have A Project For You: http://bit.ly/hqShZa #edchat #ntchat #ELTChat #mathchat #sschat MertonTech 1/25/11 1:08 PM @fionamau #edchat I think that born leaders seek out learning, risks, and advice. Born leaders have intangibles other people dont have gericoats 1/25/11 1:08 PM RT @ShellTerrell: Agree! RT @cybraryman1: Yes our focus should be on training students to be critical thinkers #edchat evedickson 1/25/11 1:08 PM Relearning Learning: A student teacher's blog promoting innovation & creativity in education.http://evedickson.wordpress.com #edtech #edchat fionamau 1/25/11 1:08 PM RT @ShellTerrell: RT @cybraryman1: We cannot just throw more money in. Need planning, training and support #edchat ShellTerrell 1/25/11 1:08 PM Sorry wasn't in #Edchat much today I'm on a train to Munich & somehow went to near Austria but I'm back on track AAlvaro1 1/25/11 1:08 PM RT @DoremiGirl: Help us w/our #Educon convo: Why is collaboration important/useful in arts integration? http://is.gd/jh1Fdq #musedchat #edchat #artsed CTuckerEnglish 1/25/11 1:08 PM Students who can effectively collaborate to seek solutions to problems or discover knowledge together will succeed in workplace #edchat

MSMS_tech 1/25/11 1:08 PM RT @shankerblog: Yale ends teacher programs due 2 lack of interest yet 18%ofstudents apply to Teach for America http://bit.ly/hw3hgQ #edchat kjpmeyer 1/25/11 1:09 PM What good teacher professionaldevelopment programs are doing http://sbne.ws/r/6AUB #grundycenter #edchat #iowaeducators sram_socrates 1/25/11 1:09 PM to talk to you again soon #edchat geraldaungst 1/25/11 point. :) #edchat 1:09 PM @hktv you are welcome, hope

@chulitt Trying to do my part on that

jagkise 1/25/11 1:09 PM RT @MSMS_tech: RT @shankerblog: Yale ends teacher programs due 2 lack of interest yet 18%ofstudents apply to Teach for America http://bit.ly/hw3hgQ #edchat juandoming 1/25/11 1:09 PM RT @techmunoz: #edchat @juandoming business holds the solutions and they are FREE :) see edmodo, twiducate, etc.<--Love these apps in my classroom! tdeflitch 1/25/11 1:09 PM I'm looking for great websites that feature student work. Please let me know if you know of any! #edchat #isedchat ballantynedj 1/25/11 1:09 PM PLN can you suggest any resources that describe use of tablets in the classroom? #edchat #edtech chulitt 1/25/11 1:09 PM @geraldaungst Which is exactly why we need innovative companies / schools #edchat ISpanishTeacher 1/25/11 1:10 PM RT @WeAreTeachers: RT @sram_socrates: Imagine if gov spent the same money bailing out business as it did on education #edchat juandoming 1/25/11 1:10 PM @techmunoz ICT obviously offer a greater potential #Education and Artificial Intelligence #juandon #edchat #edtech #redcled CoachInTheLab 1/25/11 1:10 PM http://bit.ly/fOZS00 <-- The new "plan" for education here. Read it and tell me what you think... most educators are up in arms. #edchat fionamau 1/25/11 1:10 PM RT @MertonTech: #edchat Born leaders have intangibles other people dont have >> Nietzsche would agree ... MertonTech 1/25/11 1:10 PM #edchat I believe the reality of the situation is that not all people are born = in ability. Educators help everyone reach their max ability

VanessaSCassie 1/25/11 1:10 PM Stupid @twitter and their stupid 2000 follow cap...how am I supposed to follow all the great folks I met today on #edchat? bruno_cesar82 1/25/11 1:11 PM #edchat a burst of applause to the great moderator @rliberni ! Thanks for keeping me thinking! dmcordell 1/25/11 1:11 PM via @tjshay tjshay RT @FableLearn: Hot off the press: NEW FableVision Learning catalog - exciting new products! http://bit.ly/guyYvk #edchat chulitt 1/25/11 1:11 PM @geraldaungst Aren't we all?! #edchat

GWoodJCG 1/25/11 1:11 PM Test Scores Show U.S. Science Deficiency http://on.wsj.com/exRvaB Science been off the grid too long #edchat #ecosys rliberni 1/25/11 1:11 PM RT @web20classroom: All You Educational Chat Participants-We Have A Project For You: http://bit.ly/hqShZa #edchat #ntchat #ELTChat #mathchat #sschat davidwees 1/25/11 1:11 PM @VanessaSCassie Use something like twitcleaner.com and unfollow some of the people who haven't tweeted in months. #edchat bruno_cesar82 1/25/11 1:11 PM #edchat thanks 4 the great convo: @rliberni @cybraryman1 @vanessaSCassie @lisalearner @robertSAllen1 @schoolsEDU @ian23505 luv learning w u daveandcori 1/25/11 1:11 PM @VanessaSCassie @jagkise @fliegs Some teachers are just good too - but those that aren't good need training and mentoring #edchat WeAreTeachers usual! 1/25/11 1:11 PM Excellent #edchat today as

EricMStauffer 1/25/11 1:12 PM In Tests, Few Students Excel in Science http://nyti.ms/gmwhCW /cc @feedly #edchat gericoats 1/25/11 1:12 PM RT @Mamacita: Eliminate most standardized testing & we'd have time to teach invaluable skills that would enrich business & life. #edchat mariakehres 1/25/11 1:12 PM RT @edtechsteve: I'm still looking for a business that judges it's employees' performance based on standardized tests. #edchat

Dowbiggin 1/25/11 1:12 PM Need FREE replacement for Webspiration. Anyone? #edchat #gct #appsct gericoats 1/25/11 1:12 PM @cybraryman1 my school has an AWESOME ROP program where students go out into communities and work while learning. GREAT!! #edchat lisalearner 1/25/11 1:12 PM @davidwees @VanessaSCassie ooh! great tip--I'll check out twitcleaner.com right now #edchat k_shelton 1/25/11 1:12 PM @VanessaSCassie @gericoats @ian23505 @lisalearner @jagkise @fliegs @ShaunJay @daveandcori @rliberni thanks for the great #edchat geraldaungst 1/25/11 1:13 PM have as much work to do...? #edchat @chulitt If that were so, would we What do you think about a

CoachInTheLab 1/25/11 1:13 PM "customer-driven" education system? #edchat

teachertheresa 1/25/11 1:13 PM RT @wmchamberlain: How about we teach how to learn in K-12 and the colleges/universities/trade schools teach for business or professions? #edchat MertonTech 1/25/11 1:13 PM @fionamau Ubermenschen is an unrealistic goal. He had it right, not every1 can be the top, but he still set his sights too high #edchat juandoming 1/25/11 1:13 PM @ballantynedj The PLN, the PLE, the SLE are part of an inclusive learning EWscenario Ubiquitous #edchat #juandon #edtech CTuckerEnglish 1/25/11 1:13 PM always! Thanks for the dialogue. #edchat Great food for thought as

insightfullogic 1/25/11 1:14 PM RT @teachersnet: Use "essential questions" to improve instruction http://bit.ly/f3Md0t #edchat #elemchat #ntchat #curriculum EricMStauffer 1/25/11 1:14 PM Google Apps Marketplace Adds an Education Aisle /by @benbwieder http://bit.ly/eHW7OT #edchat /cc @feedly VanessaSCassie 1/25/11 1:14 PM RT @daveandcori: @VanessaSCassie @jagkise @fliegs Some teachers are just good too - but those that aren't good need training and mentoring #edchat pr1nc1pal 1/25/11 1:14 PM The ongoing debate@davidwees: Quora: Do you give homework to your students? http://qr.ae/H9Lk #edchat #assessment

web20education 1/25/11 1:14 PM I invite you to join free #edtech20 PLN Pls Rt,Read http://web20ineducation2010.ning.com/forum/topics/collaboration-inedtech20-pln #edchat TheNerdyTeacher 1/25/11 1:15 PM RT @web20classroom: All You Educational Chat Participants-We Have A Project For You: http://bit.ly/hqShZa #edchat #ntchat #ELTChat #mathchat #sschat gcspartans 1/25/11 1:16 PM What good teacher professionaldevelopment programs are doing http://sbne.ws/r/6AUB #grundycenter #edchat #iowaeducators sram_socrates 1/25/11 1:16 PM @juandoming: @ShellTerrell @daveandcori @ian23505 @defstef98 @hktv @SErwin @springrose12 @jagkise @web20education thanks #edchat sram_socrates 1/25/11 1:17 PM @ShellTerrell: @daveandcori @ian23505 @defstef98 @juandoming @SErwin @springrose12 @jagkise @web20education thanks 4 the convos! #edchat gericoats 1/25/11 1:17 PM RT @jpsteltz: Edu could learn from marketing techniques used in business #edchat Our profession is NOT marketed well teachertheresa 1/25/11 1:18 PM #edchat: We need 2 change how we view education: rather than cogs in the consumer machine, we r helping the cogs function in a world machine HanoverResearch 1/25/11 1:19 PM RT @NASBE: Post-#SOTU activities concerning education tonight and tomorrow - http://bit.ly/i30fzm. #edchat #education GWoodJCG 1/25/11 1:19 PM Google Adds Education Category to Apps Marketplace - PCWorld Business Center http://t.co/D2awBkW NICE!! #edchat #ecosys HCESCtech 1/25/11 1:20 PM This should be good! Live tonight 8pm - Inside the Mind of Gary Stager http://bit.ly/hxlWiN via @stevehargadon #edchat #edreform fionamau 1/25/11 1:20 PM RT @MertonTech: Ubermenschen is an unrealistic goal - not every1 can be the top, #edchat >more 2 do with nurture than birth/nature tho IMHO juandoming 1/25/11 1:21 PM http://goo.gl/Uz6HE Presente y futuro del podcasting espaol #juandon #elearning #redcled #educacion #edchat #edtech #redtebas

pesky 1/25/11 1:23 PM OH virtual teacher - i give more one on one time to my students now. #unbound #edchat just_1x1/25/11 1:23 PM RT @teachertheresa: #edchat: We need 2 change how we view education: rather than cogs in the consumer machine, we r helping the cogs function in a world machine desarrolloBA 1/25/11 1:23 PM El aprendizaje fuera de las aulas: 10 cosas que no se pueden olvidar http://t.co/wsOiLJh #elearning #educacion #edchat v-a @juandoming D_Macionis 1/25/11 1:23 PM RT @SpecialEdAdvice: My husband's story and how he learned acceptance of others | #SpecialEd Advisor http://t.co/LTb1ovY #IEP #epilepsy #autism #spedchat #edchat web20education 1/25/11 1:23 PM Free CutYourPic in 3 Easy Steps! #edtech20 #pln #elearning #edchat #pln #ple #lak11 #elt #lrnchat #efl #elt... http://fb.me/QxqGJrmM daveandcori 1/25/11 everyone! 1:23 PM Great #edchat today! Thanks

marsassie 1/25/11 1:24 PM RT @desarrolloBA: El aprendizaje fuera de las aulas: 10 cosas que no se pueden olvidar http://t.co/wsOiLJh #elearning #educacion #edchat v-a @juandoming MertonTech 1/25/11 1:24 PM @fionamau #edchat So are these skills nurtured at home or at school, and at what phase of development are they formed? MoodleMcKean 1/25/11 1:25 PM Students Own Interests Will Drive the School Day of the Future | MindShift http://bit.ly/fa0agm #edtech #edchat #elearning #tlchat #lrnchat web20education 1/25/11 1:26 PM #edtech20 15 Terrific Educational Web Apps via @edudemic #edtech20 #pln #elearning #edchat http://goo.gl/fb/g45EY pesky 1/25/11 1:26 PM OH Virtual Academy kindergartener - doing first grade work and not held back in her progress #unbound #edreform #edchat JoAnnJ68 1/25/11 http://sbne.ws/r/6AUM 1:28 PM Notes from an accidental teacher

pesky 1/25/11 1:28 PM OH virtual academy senior - 90% digital content - no more books #unbound #edreform #edchat #teachers

Moacir2 1/25/11 1:29 PM RT @juandoming: http://goo.gl/Uz6HE Presente y futuro del podcasting espaol #juandon #elearning #redcled #educacion #edchat #edtech #redtebas Mamacita 1/25/11 1:29 PM Here is an example of a good teacher seminar, the best I've ever experienced. http://bit.ly/dNLOeV #edchat. Look & learn, schools. rpetersmauri 1/25/11 1:29 PM 5 Practical Tips on Making Virtual Collaboration Efficient http://bit.ly/ifsJyn #EDU7271 #lrnchat #elearning #faculty #edchat juandoming 1/25/11 1:30 PM http://ec.europa.eu/education/news/news2760_en.htm the future of higher #education #juandon #elearning #edchat #redcled #edtech MoodleMcKean 1/25/11 1:30 PM Web 2.0 List Of Web Based Applications http://bit.ly/gpFSTA #edtech #elearning #mlearning #web2 #lrnchat #edchat #tlchat username date time status

annebeninghof 1/18/11 7:00 PM #edchat I am going to go out on a limb here and suggest we do away with extended summer vacations whatedsaid 1/18/11 your post! #edchat 7:00 PM @davidwees As per the lovely pic in

davidwees 1/18/11 7:00 PM We will know an innovation is working and should be kept because ... <fill in the blank> #edchat schoolroom 1/18/11 7:00 PM RT @MoodleMcKean: Two pages of Twittertools for Teachers via @marynabadenhors http://bit.ly/cTmqCb and http://bit.ly/sd8k #edchat #elearning #lrnchat #tlchat EngTeachChick 1/18/11 7:00 PM accurate and good assessment is always an issue, isn't that why we hate standardized testing? #edchat kylepace 1/18/11 7:00 PM Tonight's #edchat: Considering edu reform today, what innovations , strategies, or methods should be added, or dropped, or maintained? davidwees 1/18/11 7:00 PM My belief is that there is NO one innovation that will work for every community of learners. #edchat Tekkietalk 1/18/11 7:00 PM RT @mbteach: #edchat in 2 min: Considering education reform today, what innovations , strategies, or methods should be added, or dropped, or maintained?

kylepace 1/18/11 7:00 PM @dobrien917 We're starting now for the 7pm EST #edchat! I'll tweet the topic again. tamurray 1/18/11 7:01 PM No one fix - we need to give students skills they need for the future and what the community values #edchat ShellTerrell 1/18/11 7:01 PM via @profesortbaker Time To Teach Teenagers: Tough Tunes to Talk http://bit.ly/gfFZx0 #edchat Blog4Edu 1/18/11 7:01 PM via @profesortbaker Time To Teach Teenagers: Tough Tunes to Talk http://bit.ly/gfFZx0 #edchat AllStarLeadGen 1/18/11 7:01 PM President Barack Obama has kept 11 of his 48 education promises so far! - http://bit.ly/hH9bBs #highered #edchat #edreform #redu kylepace 1/18/11 7:01 PM RT @annebeninghof: #edchat I am going to go out on a limb here and suggest we do away with extended summer vacations. lookforsun 1/18/11 7:01 PM #edchat strategic reading intervention programs are an innovation we need to keep. OwlEducation 1/18/11 7:01 PM President Barack Obama has kept 11 of his 48 education promises so far! - http://bit.ly/hH9bBs #highered #edchat #edreform #redu dovemerson 1/18/11 7:01 PM RT @stumpteacher: My Evernote tutorial...as promised http://bit.ly/eRbfvz #edchat #edtech kylepace 1/18/11 7:01 PM RT @davidwees: We will know an innovation is working and should be kept because ... <fill in the blank> #edchat bethkyle 1/18/11 7:01 PM RT @davidwees: Must read (sorry not sure who shared it with me) => Does assessment hinder learning? http://is.gd/YKDmif #edchat #cpchat shelleypa 1/18/11 7:01 PM #edchat One strategy I think should be a regular part of learning is hybrid model w/ students having an online "home" for chats, projects, tamurray 1/18/11 7:01 PM We need to have open dialogue and share what's working and what's not as a start...change is coming fast. #edchat davidwees 1/18/11 7:01 PM @whatedsaid Yeah exactly. :) #edchat

mbteach 1/18/11 7:01 PM @davidwees I agree. Not everything will work for everyone. The conv can be about your personal situation #edchat

bhsprincipal 1/18/11 7:01 PM Superman is not coming! #edchat

@davidwees Yes - No Silver Bullet!

web20classroom 1/18/11 7:02 PM RT @mbteach: First we need to make sure that all stakeholders are involved in the discussion #edchat <-Inside and esp. outside the school. bhsprincipal 1/18/11 7:02 PM RT @mbteach: First we need to make sure that all stakeholders are involved in the discussion #edchat kylepace 1/18/11 7:02 PM RT @lookforsun: #edchat strategic reading intervention programs are an innovation we need to keep. davidwees 1/18/11 7:02 PM I think you can characterize schools by their assessment policy. Want to model another school? How do they know kids are learning? #edchat RyanRidout 1/18/11 7:02 PM RT @annebeninghof: #edchat I am going to go out on a limb here and suggest we do away with extended summer vacation; great loss in retention 2footgiraffe 1/18/11 7:02 PM RT @whatedsaid: We will know an innovation is working and should be kept because ... <the focus os on learning, rather than results> #edchat mbteach 1/18/11 7:02 PM First we need to make sure that all stakeholders are involved in the discussion #edchat lookforsun 1/18/11 7:02 PM #edchat we know reading intervention is working at our school because every child is coming to fourth grade able to read! whatedsaid 1/18/11 7:02 PM We will know an innovation is working and should be kept because ... <the focus os on learning, rather than results> #edchat bhsprincipal 1/18/11 7:02 PM respectful dialogue is a must! #edchat @tamurray Agreed - An open

NewsNumpty 1/18/11 7:03 PM RT @davidwees: My belief is that there is NO one innovation that will work for every community of learners. #edchat AngelaMaiers 1/18/11 7:03 PM FYI- Twitter friends Tons of Tweets coming from chat tonite for the next hour or so!

debbiefuco 1/18/11 7:03 PM RT @whatedsaid: We will know an innovation is working and should be kept because ... <the focus os on learning, rather than results> #edchat JAofNJ 1/18/11 7:03 PM RT @tamurray: No one fix - we need to give students skills they need for the future and what the community values #edchat RyanRidout 1/18/11 7:03 PM #edchat we need to continue to work on improving educational evaluations/expectations to match those of societal expectations. TheHelpGroup 1/18/11 7:03 PM RT @azjd: Strongly AGREE RT @davidwees: My belief is that there is NO one innovation that will work for every community of learners. #edchat mgraffin 1/18/11 7:03 PM RT @mbteach: @davidwees knowing whether it works depends on the goals/vision of a school or district #edchat dobrien917 1/18/11 7:03 PM RT @whatedsaid: Dont confine learning to the 4 walls. Create global connections so kids can learn from and with others #edchat whatedsaid 1/18/11 7:03 PM @mbteach I think it's about one teacher at a time creating change #edchat elightkeeper 1/18/11 7:03 PM RT @davidwees: We will know an innovation is working and should be kept because...we stop talking about it and actually use it #edchat azjd 1/18/11 7:03 PM Strongly AGREE RT @davidwees: My belief is that there is NO one innovation that will work for every community of learners. #edchat KimberlyBrosan 1/18/11 7:03 PM RT @willrich45: Investing in Teachers as Learners http://bit.ly/fMZYRg EdWeek. Top secret free access link. #edchat #edreform AngelaMaiers 1/18/11 #edchat 7:03 PM Hello friends! Happy Tuesday!

tamurray 1/18/11 7:03 PM RT @mbteach: @davidwees knowing whether it works depends on the goals/vision of a school or district #edchat mbteach 1/18/11 7:03 PM @davidwees knowing whether it works depends on the goals/vision of a school or district #edchat whatedsaid 1/18/11 7:03 PM Dont confine learning to the 4 walls. Create global connections so kids can learn from and with others like we do here! #edchat

isteconnects 1/18/11 7:04 PM I think problem based learning will continue to expand and we'll move away from teaching for a test (I'm an eternal optimist) #edchat brophycat 1/18/11 7:04 PM cover less, more thoroughly #edchat @tomwhitby totally agree-better to

bhsprincipal 1/18/11 7:04 PM RT @kylepace: We need to have more community involvement. Too many basic needs are not being met outside of school. #edchat shelleypa 1/18/11 7:04 PM RT @whatedsaid: Dont confine learning to the 4 walls. Create global connections so kids can learn from and with others #edchat whatedsaid 1/18/11 7:04 PM Focus on learning. #edchat

AngelaMaiers 1/18/11 7:04 PM RT @dobrien917 @whatedsaid: Dont confine learning to the 4 walls. Create global connections! YES! #edchat bhsprincipal 1/18/11 7:04 PM RT @AngelaMaiers: FYI- Twitter friends Tons of Tweets coming from chat tonite for the next hour or so! #edchat ljhardin 1/18/11 7:04 PM RT @azjd: Strongly AGREE RT @davidwees: My belief is that there is NO one innovation that will work for every community of learners. #edchat mritzius 1/18/11 7:04 PM Creating the flexibility to do whatever is needed to teach kids would be an effective innovation #edchat kylepace 1/18/11 7:04 PM We need to have more community involvement. Too many basic needs are not being met outside of school. #edchat lookforsun 1/18/11 7:04 PM @whatedsaid Definitely create global connections at every level - developmentally appropriate connections. #edchat mgraffin 1/18/11 7:04 PM RT @dobrien917: RT @whatedsaid: Dont confine learning to the 4 walls. Create global connections so kids can learn from and with others #edchat brophycat 1/18/11 7:04 PM RT @AngelaMaiers: FYI- Twitter friends Tons of Tweets coming from chat tonite for the next hour or so! tomwhitby 1/18/11 7:04 PM I oppose the idea of a Spandex Curriculum. If we must add stuff, in the interest of time and focus, we should drop stuff as well.#Edchat

Nunavut_Teacher 1/18/11 7:04 PM What about using it with students? #edchat

I learn through social media.

brophycat 1/18/11 7:05 PM @mbteach so true, love backwards design-what is it you want kids to know and be able to do? #edchat andycinek 1/18/11 7:05 PM Can we change the tone of reform and move towards innovating our best practices with what we have while developing dynamic learners #edchat tomwhitby 1/18/11 7:05 PM Wev should drop the requirement by schools for a month's worth of Test preparation. #Edchat tkraz 1/18/11 7:05 PM @kylepace Which means the community must be convinced that what we are doing is legitimate. It may go against what they know of ed #edchat shelleypa 1/18/11 7:05 PM #edchat community involvement = project-based learning. Are students helping address or solve community problems? Building and investing? bhsprincipal 1/18/11 7:05 PM RT @AngelaMaiers: @ljhardin @azjd @davidwees - so true- we need 2 think customization not standardization! #edchat 21stprincipal 1/18/11 7:05 PM Educate public and all that education is something to engage in not something done to you. #edchat carolgau 1/18/11 7:05 PM RT @dobrien917: RT @whatedsaid: Dont confine learning to the 4 walls. Create global connections so kids can learn from and with others #edchat rcantrell 1/18/11 7:05 PM RT @whatedsaid: Dont confine learning to the 4 walls. Create global connections so kids can learn from and with others like we do here! #edchat AngelaMaiers 1/18/11 7:05 PM @ljhardin @azjd @davidwees - so true- we need 2 think customization not standardization! #edchat tamurray 1/18/11 7:05 PM RT @kylepace: We need to have more community involvement. Too many basic needs are not being met outside of school. #edchat whatedsaid 1/18/11 onto next topic #edchat 7:05 PM Break the cycle of teach/test/move

tamurray 1/18/11 7:05 PM @tomwhitby so true - curriculum needs to be fluid and changing...life is changing and what we teach should too :) #edchat

PSSK12 1/18/11 7:05 PM http://ow.ly/3FLop #edchat #spedchat

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mbteach 1/18/11 7:05 PM @mritzius flexibility is key. Too often we fall in love with our own bad ideas #edchat whatedsaid 1/18/11 7:06 PM conversation over? #edchat @amandacdykes haha.. so

kylepace 1/18/11 7:06 PM What about innovation in design of physical learning spaces? Anyone have a good example of that? #edchat annebeninghof 1/18/11 7:06 PM the usefulness of seat time. #edchat RT @21stprincipal: Examine

peterkarlberg 1/18/11 7:06 PM RT @davidwees: I think you can characterize schools by their assessment policy. Want to model another school? How do they know kids are learning? #edchat PaulWHankins 1/18/11 7:06 PM RT @whatedsaid: Dont confine learning to the 4 walls. Create global connections so kids can learn from and with others like we do here! #edchat johnsonmaryj 1/18/11 7:06 PM There are as many ideas about education reform as there are community members included in the discussion. #edchat MoodleMcKean 1/18/11 7:06 PM My 2011 Predictions | MinuteBio http://bit.ly/gA40WS #elearning #edtech #edchat EngTeachChick 1/18/11 7:06 PM more encouragement for PLNs with teachers. losing the fear of sharing with other teachers. #edchat lookforsun 1/18/11 7:06 PM @tomwhitby #edchat We can't do it all - teaching of essential skills in meaningful 21stC ways is the best goal for elementary. AngelaMaiers 1/18/11 7:06 PM We need to let kids create and TRUST them to do so - http://bit.ly/g0ARIE #edchat tamurray 1/18/11 7:06 PM RT @whatedsaid: Break the cycle of teach/test/move onto next topic #edchat <--i'm trying - getting student resistance :( davidwees 1/18/11 7:06 PM @fdrlibrarian @mbteach No, I don't think so. Any national curriculum would have to be very dilute to allow for local customization. #edchat

azjd 1/18/11 7:06 PM Instructional techniques/approaches (including technology) that move us toward individualization of learning are a good thing. #edchat web20classroom 1/18/11 7:06 PM RT @andycinek: Can we change the tone of reform and move towards innovating our best practices with what we have while developing dynamic learners #edchat DogIsRed 1/18/11 7:06 PM RT @aeusa: Australians "overwhelmingly" support greater public school funding http://t.co/ufwvHOV #ausunions #aeusa #publiceducation #auspoll #edchat 21stprincipal 1/18/11 #edchat 7:06 PM Examine the usefulness of seat time.

AngelaMaiers 1/18/11 7:07 PM RT @isteconnects: Throw out rows of desks. Bring on flexible seating arrangements! And pillows! #edchat ddunkin23 1/18/11 7:07 PM I love this idea for helping students:http://bit.ly/hjTSMW @hld406 akascholar 1/18/11 7:07 PM Media in Online Classrooms - Most college students when transitioning that do not currently have college... http://is.gd/mt2Cvy #edchat haledogg 1/18/11 7:07 PM #edchat inovation in Ed will take different forms depending on where you come from. A&E issues signiicant. stumpteacher 1/18/11 7:07 PM http://bit.ly/hWHhxO #edchat #ecosys What Would Your Students Say?

lookforsun 1/18/11 7:07 PM @azjd #edchat How about a balance of individualization for skills/interests, collaboration for meaningful project work. tomwhitby 1/18/11 Labor. #Edchat 7:07 PM Focus reform on Learning and not

bhsprincipal 1/18/11 7:07 PM @EngTeachChick Can we expect staff to share in a PLN when sharing inside their own school is not encouraged? #edchat j_ashton 1/18/11 7:07 PM Absolutely!! RT @kylepace: We need to have more community involvement. Too many basic needs are not being met outside of school. #edchat andycinek 1/18/11 7:07 PM There is no denying edu is in a flux but let's prove 'them' wrong in the classroom rather than with redundant rhetoric #edchat

brophycat 1/18/11 7:07 PM @kylepace look at the spaces kids naturally create and model that #edchat isteconnects 1/18/11 7:07 PM flexible seating arrangements! #edchat Throw out rows of desks. Bring on

21stprincipal 1/18/11 7:07 PM Make education relevant by having students engage in real world problems, not book problems. #edchat davidwees 1/18/11 7:07 PM Research I read recently seemed to suggest that THE most cost effective way to improve student learning was teacher training. #edchat whatedsaid 1/18/11 learning works :) #edchat 7:07 PM @tamurray but that's not the way National Curriculum!

Nunavut_Teacher 1/18/11 NOOOOOOO!!!! #edchat

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shelleypa 1/18/11 7:07 PM #edchat teachers should be able to teach groups of students in teams - cross-curricular units. Differentiation could be built in tamurray 1/18/11 7:07 PM RT @21stprincipal: Examine the usefulness of seat time. #edchat <--NY is...some interesting proposals on table..... mbteach 1/18/11 7:07 PM @fdrlibrarian @davidwees scary thing for me is that curriculum will be narrowed to knowing x,y and z rather than critical thinking #edchat PaulWHankins 1/18/11 7:07 PM RT @kylepace: We need to have more community involvement. Too many basic needs are not being met outside of school. #edchat davidwees 1/18/11 7:08 PM @fdrlibrarian @mbteach Critical thinking isn't a curriculum item IMO, it's a skill. Skills can be generalized, content cannot. #edchat annebeninghof 1/18/11 7:08 PM RT @EngTeachChick: @bhsprincipal Exactly. Get away from the "shut door syndrome" Open door teaching and sharing is needed #edchat lookforsun 1/18/11 7:08 PM @shelleypa #edchat I agree, we have to think differently about teaching teams and school structure - we should respond to cognitive studies. stumpteacher 1/18/11 7:08 PM RT @bhsprincipal @EngTeachChick Can we expect staff to share in a PLN when sharing inside their own school is not encouraged? #edchat

mritzius 1/18/11 7:08 PM @mbteach I never experienced a school with bells until I began teachng. The rigidity drives me crazy. Generally shortchanges needy S #edchat rodaniel 1/18/11 7:08 PM RT @EngTeachChick: @bhsprincipal Exactly. Get away from the "shut door syndrome" Open door teaching and sharing is needed #edchat AngelaMaiers 1/18/11 7:08 PM @tomwhitby - unless we are attending to "emotional labor" what can b done to have kid give their heart/soul 2 the work #edchat andycinek 1/18/11 7:08 PM @kylepace it's called any coffee shop you enter #edchat RE: dynamic learning spaces stumpteacher 1/18/11 7:08 PM RT @haledogg: #edchat inovation in Ed will take different forms depending on where you come from. A&E issues signiicant. davidwees 1/18/11 7:08 PM If teacher quality is so important, why are our budgets for teacher training so tiny? #edchat shawdave 1/18/11 7:08 PM #edchat when I try to get kids to create - they want to do a bare minimum job. How 2 get past that? Less 'skipping rocks' & more 'diving in' stumpteacher 1/18/11 7:08 PM RT @isteconnects: Throw out rows of desks. Bring on flexible seating arrangements! #edchat whatedsaid 1/18/11 7:08 PM http://bit.ly/hDU7A7 #edchat Changing role of the teacher:

EngTeachChick 1/18/11 7:08 PM @bhsprincipal Exactly. Get away from the "shut door syndrome" Open door teaching and sharing is needed #edchat kcollazo 1/18/11 7:08 PM RT @davidwees: Research I read recently seemed to suggest that THE most cost effective way to improve student learning was teacher training. #edchat bhsprincipal 1/18/11 7:08 PM RT @andycinek: There is no denying edu is in a flux but let's prove 'them' wrong in the classroom rather than w/ redundant rhetoric #edchat DogIsRed 1/18/11 7:09 PM @tkraz I think parents find it too dufficult to let go and have blind faith in what someone believes is best for their children #edchat

lookforsun 1/18/11 7:09 PM @shawdave #edchat Students love to create when the projects are meaningful & pace is just right - cramming too much in stifles creativity. TeacherSabrina 1/18/11 7:09 PM RT @davidwees: My belief is that there is NO one innovation that will work for every community of learners. #edchat AngelaMaiers 1/18/11 7:09 PM RT @micwalker: @smitha834 You were rocking the #edchat today. Good stuff! #edchat whatedsaid 1/18/11 7:09 PM to think and how to learn #edchat @tim_yocum They need to learn how

debbiefuco 1/18/11 7:09 PM RT @tomwhitby: Wev should drop the requirement by schools for a month's worth of Test preparation. #Edchat kylepace 1/18/11 7:09 PM Tonight's #edchat: Considering edu reform today, what innovations ,strategies, or methods should be added, or dropped, or maintained? rodaniel 1/18/11 7:09 PM @davidwees Aren't they tiny because taxpayer money is hard to come by? #edchat Luke1946 1/18/11 7:09 PM Get rid of the rows of desks. A few tables will suffice for writing surfaces, if needed. Cushions & comfy chairs! #edchat tim_yocum 1/18/11 7:09 PM @shawdave Tough one there. Most kids used to being spoonfed. Don't/won't give more than minimum. #edchat micwalker 1/18/11 7:09 PM #edchat today. Good stuff! AngelaMaiers 1/18/11 7:09 PM you have the link to that! #edchat @smitha834 You were rocking the @bhsprincipal @EngTeachChick - do

tamurray 1/18/11 7:09 PM RT @lookforsun: @azjd #edchat How about a balance of individualization for skills/interests, collaboration for meaningful project work. andycinek 1/18/11 7:09 PM If we make the change in our classrooms rather than complaining on social media, we win everyday #edchat brianDowd 1/18/11 7:09 PM RT @davidwees: Research I read recently seemed to suggest that THE most cost effective way to improve student learning was teacher training. #edchat

rliberni 1/18/11 7:09 PM News, Review, & A 2010 View! | Teacher Reboot Camp http://bit.ly/hoZsqn #edchat #eltchat #edtech #teachers carolgau 1/18/11 7:09 PM #edchat We have to keep the creativity that students already have and teach them how to problem solve and critically think about issues. whatedsaid 1/18/11 7:09 PM to assess... fun ways #edchat @amandacdykes Find different ways

sammorra 1/18/11 7:09 PM Strategy: Don't accept the crisis narrative. Focus on learning, meeting the needs of students and communities. #edchat kcollazo 1/18/11 7:09 PM @AngelaMaiers @isteconnects My kids LOVE our round tables (5th grade)! #edchat lookforsun 1/18/11 7:10 PM @debbiefuco @tomwhitby #edchat testing has to be streamlined to make way for meaningful, deeper education. phsprincipal 1/18/11 7:10 PM RT @bhsprincipal: RT @andycinek: There is no denying edu is in a flux but let's prove 'them' wrong in the classroom rather than w/ redundant rhetoric #edchat andycinek 1/18/11 7:10 PM State and Fed GOV do not have us in their best interest, we need to scrap together and stop combating each other & promote learning #edchat AngelaMaiers 1/18/11 7:10 PM @kcollazo @AngelaMaiers @isteconnects - no learner loves a desk in the row! It is unnatural and uncomfortable! #edchat azjd 1/18/11 7:10 PM Shameless self promotion, but since you asked :) @kylepace Design Departure: Do We Need New Classrooms? http://bit.ly/hzOnl6 #edchat tamurray 1/18/11 7:10 PM RT @shawdave: #edchat when I try 2 get kids 2 create-they wnt 2 do a bare min job. How 2 get past that? Less 'skipping rocks'&more diving in NewsNumpty 1/18/11 7:10 PM @davidwees We will know an innovation is working and should be kept because ... Teachers don't complain about it! #edchat RyanRidout 1/18/11 7:10 PM #edchat Social media opened wide at #boonecsd; so far has been fantastic experience; learning opportunities have grown exponentially

JosieHolford 1/18/11 7:10 PM RT @whatedsaid: Break the cycle of teach/test/move onto next topic #edchat davidwees 1/18/11 7:10 PM @rodaniel If each teacher took 2 more kids in their class (a tiny decrease in student learning) we could all go to Educon... #edchat tim_yocum 1/18/11 7:10 PM @whatedsaid Exactly. Guiding them in that direction is a patient team based effort. #edchat cybraryman1 1/18/11 7:10 PM Some redesigning schools links on my Architecture page: http://bit.ly/a0zI0f #edchat ljhardin 1/18/11 7:10 PM Flexibility! Teacher support! Teachers locked into rigid schedule, testing, "covering" content, lock-step lessons - NOT effective!! #edchat shelleypa 1/18/11 7:10 PM #edchat older students can model for younger students - cross grade projects as well kylepace 1/18/11 7:10 PM @SenorG @TeachPaperless I have no doubt that learning space is awesome! #edchat dannymaas 1/18/11 7:10 PM Pic says 1000 words!->RT @whatedsaid: Changing role of the teacher: http://bit.ly/hDU7A7 #edchat #etcata #inspiringed shawdave 1/18/11 7:10 PM @tim_yocum yes, we've created that culture of barely doing for them. How do we undo it #edchat stumpteacher 1/18/11 7:10 PM Give choice RT @whatedsaid @amandacdykes Find different ways to assess... fun ways #edchat tomwhitby 1/18/11 7:10 PM learning, not memorization. #edchat @AngelaMaiers We need to foster

21stprincipal 1/18/11 7:10 PM Get rid of teaching and learning that can be done in classrooms with rows of desks #edchat shelleypa 1/18/11 7:10 PM #edchat we need to involve students in policy writing, project planning and in drafting the possible ways to demonstrate outcomes - model tkraz 1/18/11 #edchat 7:10 PM @andycinek Out students win everyday.

micwalker 1/18/11 7:11 PM Personalized learning needs to focus on student passions and interests not on data and Computer based instruction. #edchat

bhsprincipal 1/18/11 7:11 PM RT @annebeninghof: #edchat What about giving teachers the freedom to choose websites rather than no control < Trusting Teachers Step 1! johnsonmaryj 1/18/11 7:11 PM Perhaps single most important reform "keeper" is concept of teachers as learners. #edchat tim_leister 1/18/11 7:11 PM RT @willrich45: Shameless selfpromotion: Investing in Teachers as Learners http://bit.ly/fMZYRg EdWeek. Top secret free access link. #edchat #edreform kylepace 1/18/11 7:11 PM @aunthattie That is fantastic! Too many kids are going without many basic necessities outside of school. #edchat TeacherReality 1/18/11 7:11 PM RT @EdReformPR: Reality Program: "So, U Think U Can Teach?" Contestants given 30 stdnts, 40 min & scripted lesson. Best test scores win. #edreform #edchat isteconnects 1/18/11 7:11 PM Portfolio assessments for students. Qualitative as well as quantitative assessment for teachers & admins #edchat tomwhitby 1/18/11 7:11 PM Emphazising Testing is not emphasizing Learning. We need to change the Focus. #Edchat whatedsaid 1/18/11 based learning #edchat 7:11 PM @tim_yocum That's why I love inquiry

mbteach 1/18/11 7:11 PM RT @kylepace Tonight's #edchat: Considering edu reform today, what innovations ,strategies, or methods shld b added, dropped, or maintained? web20classroom 1/18/11 7:11 PM I think part of the problem is the negativity. We are frustrated but bad attitudes solve nothing. #edchat newfirewithin 1/18/11 7:11 PM blessing for your 4th grade teachers. #edchat @lookforsun Wow! What a

tim_yocum 1/18/11 7:11 PM @shawdave By modeling the very skills we want them to have. Questioning, Critical thinking. Problem solving. #edchat msbarber1st2nd 1/18/11 7:11 PM #edchat more collaboration and creation - students will dive in when ownership and "understanding why" are involved mgraffin 1/18/11 7:11 PM RT @EngTeachChick: #edchat Lose standardized testing. Realize that creativity is important and the answer isn't C

bruno_cesar82 1/18/11 7:11 PM RT @tamurray: RT @lookforsun: @azjd #edchat How abt a balance of individualization 4 skills/interests, collaboration 4 meaningful projct wrk RyanRidout 1/18/11 7:11 PM RT @EngTeachChick: #edchat Lose standardized testing. Realize that creativity is important and the answer isn't C rodaniel 1/18/11 7:11 PM @davidwees I'm all for educon! what about doing away with one out of every 4 district admins... #edchat whatedsaid 1/18/11 7:11 PM @amandacdykes It's the 'requirements' that kill innovation.. sigh #edchat NewsNumpty 1/18/11 7:11 PM RT @davidwees: If teacher quality is so important, why are our budgets for teacher training so tiny? #edchat EngTeachChick 1/18/11 7:11 PM #edchat Lose standardized testing. Realize that creativity is important and the answer isn't C AngelaMaiers 1/18/11 7:11 PM RT @cybraryman1: Some redesigning schools links on my Architecture page: http://bit.ly/a0zI0f #edchat annebeninghof 1/18/11 7:11 PM #edchat What about giving teachers the freedom to choose websites rather than no control mzayfert 1/18/11 7:12 PM RT @web20classroom: I think part of the problem is the negativity. We are frustrated but bad attitudes solve nothing. #edchat MissLadyCaz 1/18/11 7:12 PM RT @tomwhitby: Emphazising Testing is not emphasizing Learning. We need to change the Focus. #Edchat TeacherReality 1/18/11 7:12 PM RT @EdReformPR: Increase observations w this reality program: "Teacher Idol" judged by panel of hedge fund managers. #edchat #edreform tim_yocum 1/18/11 7:12 PM @whatedsaid I use it frquently. The kids do respond and actually often takes things further. Stilll trying to reach a few though. #edchat Mrs_Dem 1/18/11 7:12 PM RT @johnsonmaryj

mzayfert 1/18/11 7:12 PM RT @tomwhitby: Emphazising Testing is not emphasizing Learning. We need to change the Focus. #Edchat peterflom 1/18/11 7:12 PM The best teachers I ever saw had students in rows, and used no technology at all #edchat Math Circle http://ow.ly/3G98X

rodaniel 1/18/11 7:12 PM RT @tomwhitby: @AngelaMaiers We need to foster learning, not memorization. #edchat 2footgiraffe 1/18/11 7:12 PM RT @AngelaMaiers: @tim_yocum @shawdave - Modeling and demonstration key words! We need to BE the learners we wish then to be! #edchat whatedsaid 1/18/11 7:12 PM RT @johnsonmaryj: Perhaps single most important reform "keeper" is concept of teachers as learners. #edchat stumpteacher 1/18/11 7:12 PM Key to any reform is that it has to be rooted in student learning not teacher convenience #edchat AngelaMaiers 1/18/11 a must! #edchat 7:12 PM @micwalker - Being #passiondriven is

21stprincipal 1/18/11 7:12 PM Problem-based learning instead of inauthentic learning in discrete subjects. #edchat JudithELS 1/18/11 7:12 PM RT @MoodleMcKean: Florida Virtual School: Is This What the School of the Future Will Look Like? http://rww.to/eG1Hh2 #elearning #onlinelearning #edchat tamurray 1/18/11 7:12 PM RT @dannymaas: Pic says 1000 words!->RT @whatedsaid: Changing role of the teacher: http://bit.ly/hDU7A7 #edchat #etcata #inspiringed carolgau 1/18/11 7:12 PM @shawdave #edchat I think finding something that is interesting for stds, allowing them choice of how to show their learning may help. cybraryman1 1/18/11 7:12 PM RT @tomwhitby: Emphazising Testing is not emphasizing Learning. We need to change the Focus. #Edchat TeacherInMe 1/18/11 7:12 PM RT @mbteach: RT @kylepace Tonight's #edchat: Considering edu reform today, what innovations ,strategies, or methods shld b added, dropped, or maintained? EngTeachChick 1/18/11 7:12 PM #edchat My kids don't know common knowledge: roman numerals, how to read a clock (not digital), what a baker's dozen is... gregwhitby 1/18/11 7:12 PM RT @willrich45: Shameless selfpromotion: Investing in Teachers as Learners http://bit.ly/fMZYRg EdWeek. Top secret free access link. #edchat #edreform AngelaMaiers 1/18/11 7:12 PM @tim_yocum @shawdave - Modeling and demonstration key words! We need to BE the learners we wish then to be! #edchat

leedigio 1/18/11 7:12 PM RT @EdReformPR: Reality Program: "So, U Think U Can Teach?" Contestants given 30 stdnts, 40 min & scripted lesson. Best test scores win. #edreform #edchat dobrien917 1/18/11 7:12 PM Encourage a learning environment that continually motivates every student to excel... more opportunities to collaborate and connect. #edchat rgallwitz 1/18/11 7:12 PM RT @web20classroom: I think part of the problem is the negativity. We are frustrated but bad attitudes solve nothing. #edchat shawdave 1/18/11 7:12 PM #edchat my music apprec. Ss are only interested in their own music. HEaven 4bid the hiphopper should have to listen to the indie rockers! ljhardin 1/18/11 7:13 PM RT @johnsonmaryj: Perhaps single most important reform "keeper" is concept of teachers as learners. #edchat shelleypa 1/18/11 7:13 PM RT @johnsonmaryj: Perhaps single most important reform "keeper" is concept of teachers as learners. #edchat BryantHistoryT 1/18/11 7:13 PM #edchat We need to return the focus to the love & enjoyment of learning. Not placing such an emphasis on testing & summative assessment. AngelaMaiers 1/18/11 7:13 PM @mzayfert @web20classroom - we need to exponentially show what is right! Hard to argue with that proof! #edchat mbteach 1/18/11 7:13 PM @mritzius I am expected to arbitrarily give every student a grade on something every time they come to me #edchat bruno_cesar82 1/18/11 7:13 PM #edchat It's time we educators value creativity more than anything else. There's little space for it the curriculum debbiefuco 1/18/11 7:13 PM RT @21stprincipal: Make education relevant by having students engage in real world problems, not book problems. #edchat QMcCall3 1/18/11 7:13 PM RT @EdReformPR: Reality Program: "So, U Think U Can Teach?" Contestants given 30 stdnts, 40 min & scripted lesson. Best test scores win. #edreform #edchat carolgau 1/18/11 7:13 PM @web20classroom #edchat I have a sign on my classroom window - Positive thoughts only!! mzayfert 1/18/11 7:13 PM RT @johnsonmaryj: Perhaps single most important reform "keeper" is concept of teachers as learners. #edchat

lookforsun 1/18/11 7:13 PM @21stprincipal #edchat technology used for some skill building in order to get rid of redundancy and build in needed repetition too. davidwees 1/18/11 7:13 PM Our curriculum should start with the real world & skills we want kids to develop and looking for deeper meaning. #edchat Tekkietalk 1/18/11 7:13 PM RT @whatedsaid: @mbteach I think it's about one teacher at a time creating change #edchat whatedsaid 1/18/11 7:13 PM teaching... was it best learning? #edchat @peterflom students in rows was best

lookforsun 1/18/11 7:14 PM #edchat Keep social competency curriculums - very important learning for success and happiness. mferna 1/18/11 7:14 PM RT @MoodleMcKean: Is This the Year of the Educational Tablet? http://huff.to/fwq71o #mlearning #elearning #iPad #edchat #edtech #lrnchat whatedsaid 1/18/11 7:14 PM RT @davidwees: @mbteach @mritzius The value of formative assessments is in the descriptive feedback, not in a number. #edchat andycinek 1/18/11 7:14 PM When you give students the keys to learning (autonomy) they thrive. Look at your classroom, would you want to be there? #edchat mgraffin 1/18/11 7:14 PM RT @davidwees: @mbteach @mritzius The value of formative assessments is in the descriptive feedback, not in a number. #edchat mzayfert 1/18/11 7:14 PM in North Korea they hire teachers from the top of the class only. NYC schools never considered teachers ability to learn #edchat kylepace 1/18/11 7:14 PM blog post w/pics! #edchat @mritzius I think you need to write a

tim_yocum 1/18/11 7:14 PM @AngelaMaiers @2footgiraffe @shawdave If they could see what I do to prepare afetrschool and at home. They'd think I was nuts. #edchat davidwees 1/18/11 7:14 PM @mbteach @mritzius The value of formative assessments is in the descriptive feedback, not in a number. #edchat

tomwhitby 1/18/11 7:14 PM @andycinek We need to test (assess) what kids are learning and not teach them how to beat the test. #Edchat lookforsun 1/18/11 7:14 PM #edchat restructure schools for optimal education for all - teachers cannot be a "jack of all trades" in the info age. BeckyFisher73 1/18/11 7:14 PM RT @johnsonmaryj: Perhaps single most important reform "keeper" is concept of teachers as learners. #edchat shelleypa 1/18/11 7:14 PM @davidwees #edchat and the scaffolding it takes to accopmlish some real world problems. What does it take to host a faculty meeting? AngelaMaiers 1/18/11 7:14 PM Trusting Teachers Step 1! #edchat RT @bhsprincipal @annebeninghof: <

micwalker 1/18/11 7:14 PM @kylepace We need more people like these guys http://tinyurl.com/267qwzw and @christianlong designing learning spaces. #edchat EngTeachChick 1/18/11 7:14 PM #edchat I don't grade everything. Kids don't ask, I don't tell. They just assume and I get results... rodaniel 1/18/11 7:14 PM Can anyone help design a valid RCT that helps up test a reform issue that IES will accept? attack reform from gold standard #edchat Luke1946 1/18/11 7:14 PM Would like to see research on the correlation between decibel level and learning. #edchat davidwees 1/18/11 7:14 PM @mbteach @mritzius That's based on the mistaken belief that all formative assessment needs to be given a numeric value. #edchat peterflom 1/18/11 7:14 PM taught? And, if so, need it be expensive? @davidwees #edchat Can teaching be

kylepace 1/18/11 7:14 PM @mritzius And I bet you guys make it work very well. Sounds cool! Most would prob cringe at the thought of teaching like that. #edchat 21stprincipal 1/18/11 7:14 PM Toss out the textbook companies, engage students with tech, real world tools and problems. #edchat rgallwitz 1/18/11 7:14 PM In Europe/Asia the students work for the teacher. In America the teacher works for the student. We need to shift he work load. #edchat

web20classroom 1/18/11 7:14 PM @AngelaMaiers @mzayfert And I think that is part of the problem. We share a lot but we need to convince others to share more. #edchat tamurray 1/18/11 7:14 PM RT @AngelaMaiers: @tim_yocum @shawdave - Modeling and demonstration key words! We need to BE the learners we wish then to be! #edchat andycinek 1/18/11 7:15 PM @tomwhitby I agree, but again, this is a much bigger, cultural conversation that extends far beyond the reaches of the classroom #edchat mbteach 1/18/11 7:15 PM RT @web20classroom: I still hear a lot of things that are wrong. Surely there are true stories of success to build upon. #edchat ljhardin 1/18/11 7:15 PM STRONG RT: @annebeninghof Anne M. Beninghof #edchat What about giving teachers the freedom to choose websites rather than no control Tekkietalk 1/18/11 7:15 PM RT @andycinek: When you give students the keys to learning (autonomy) they thrive. Look at your classroom, would you want to be there? #edchat CoachB0066 1/18/11 7:15 PM late to the party, topic of #edchat?

peterflom 1/18/11 7:15 PM @whatedsaid Best teaching, in my mind, is synonymous with best learning #edchat whatedsaid 1/18/11 7:15 PM RT @andycinek: When you give students the keys to learning (autonomy) they thrive. Look at your classroom, would you want to be there? #edchat rodaniel 1/18/11 us then what? #edchat 7:15 PM @andycinek What is their goal if not

lookforsun 1/18/11 7:15 PM #edchat Create wonderful structures to learn in too - why are so many U.S. schools bland while corps. are so beautiful/state-of-the-art. AngelaMaiers 1/18/11 7:15 PM @kylepace @mritzius - And videos! Every school needs a YouTube channel- showcase of teachers/students talent! #edchat bhsprincipal 1/18/11 7:15 PM RT @andycinek: Give students the keys to learning (autonomy) - they thrive. Look at your classroom, would you want to be there? #edchat

mbteach 1/18/11 7:15 PM @davidwees @mritzius and that's what I tell them at my school, whether they like it or not #edchat DogIsRed 1/18/11 7:15 PM @ljhardin Unfortunate that it ticks all the beaurocratic boxes and looks good to everybody else. Change requires social evolution #edchat whatedsaid 1/18/11 7:15 PM progress.. not just product #Edchat @tomwhitby and assess process,

web20classroom 1/18/11 7:15 PM I still hear a lot of things that are wrong. Surely there are true stories of success to build upon. #edchat EngTeachChick 1/18/11 7:15 PM #edchat I have to teach to an ADD generation, luckily I'm more ADD than them. tamurray 1/18/11 7:15 PM Change needs to start with T's learning next to the S's....if we model life long learning.....it will catch on eventually :) #edchat 2footgiraffe 1/18/11 7:15 PM @tim_yocum agreed. #edchat

annebeninghof 1/18/11 7:15 PM #edchat Did a creative writing lesson today with lots of choices using piclits and every student was fully engaged for an hour! mzayfert 1/18/11 7:16 PM RT @mrsblanchetnet: I always face resistance to my way of teaching, b/c it's different. But I've had students come back and thank me for it. #edchat AngelaMaiers 1/18/11 7:16 PM RT @peterflom: #edchat In Hebrew "to teach" is "to cause to learn" LOVE THAT! #edchat 2footgiraffe 1/18/11 7:16 PM "to teach" is "to cause to learn" #edchat RT @peterflom: #edchat In Hebrew

brophycat 1/18/11 7:16 PM leaders need to encourage and champion their teachers to explore, learn and grow and trust that change takes time #edchat stumpteacher 1/18/11 7:16 PM RT @21stprincipal: Toss out the textbook companies, engage students with tech, real world tools and problems. #edchat aunthattie 1/18/11 7:16 PM RT @kylepace: RT @AngelaMaiers: Every school needs a YouTube channel- showcase of teachers/students talent! #edchat

mbteach 1/18/11 7:16 PM @web20classroom I think that the strategy of pulling together teachers, admins and parents should stay #edchat AngelaMaiers 1/18/11 7:16 PM welcome! Anytime! #edchat @CoachB0066 - your voice is always

esmecomfort 1/18/11 7:16 PM RT @davidwees: If teacher quality is so important, why are our budgets for teacher training so tiny? #edchat lookforsun 1/18/11 7:16 PM #edchat Keep sports/extra-curricular - so important to be strong of body and strong of mind - feed passions too. bhsprincipal 1/18/11 7:16 PM RT @cybraryman1: I see more combination of face to fact & tech combination. My Blended Learning page: http://bit.ly/dybHNO #edchat Tekkietalk 1/18/11 7:16 PM RT @AngelaMaiers: @kylepace @mritzius - And videos! Every school needs a YouTube channel- showcase of teachers/students talent! #edchat DahlD 1/18/11 7:16 PM RT @rjwassink: Stop pretending any children will be left behind if they don't score in the top x% on the state test... #edchat 2footgiraffe 1/18/11 7:16 PM RT @kylepace: RT @AngelaMaiers: Every school needs a YouTube channel- showcase of teachers/students talent! #edchat rodaniel 1/18/11 7:16 PM @lookforsun Good point, can we marry formative and final assessments to produce information rather than failure? #edchat mrsblanchetnet 1/18/11 7:16 PM I always face resistance to my way of teaching, b/c it's different. But I've had students come back and thank me for it. #edchat rjwassink 1/18/11 7:16 PM Stop pretending any children will be left behind if they don't score in the top x% on the state test... #edchat elightkeeper 1/18/11 7:16 PM RT @21stprincipal: Problem-based learning instead of inauthentic learning in discrete subjects. #edchat peterflom 1/18/11 cause to learn" 7:16 PM #edchat In Hebrew "to teach" is "to

EngTeachChick 1/18/11 7:16 PM #edchat How can you expect stdnts to learn if you are disengaged with what they find interesting? Teachers need to be connected socially too

padgets 1/18/11 7:16 PM #edchat learning targets on the board, kids tell me how they will master the goals, provide lots of choices (29 and counting) is going well tim_yocum 1/18/11 7:16 PM Yes! RT @AngelaMaiers: @kylepace @mritzius - And videos! Every school needs a YouTube channel- showcase of teachers/students talent! #edchat cybraryman1 1/18/11 7:16 PM I see more combination of face to fact & tech combination. My Blended Learning page: http://bit.ly/dybHNO #edchat kylepace 1/18/11 7:16 PM RT @AngelaMaiers: Every school needs a YouTube channel- showcase of teachers/students talent! #edchat bruno_cesar82 1/18/11 7:16 PM #edchat Why on earth wouldn't anyone dare mention the low payings? It's about time we're acknowledged for it! reasoningmind 1/18/11 7:16 PM @21stprincipal we can't just toss out textbook companies with no plan. unfortunately, many teachers would be lost with basic tech. #edchat tomwhitby 1/18/11 7:16 PM @whatedsaid most definitely! #Edchat

elightkeeper 1/18/11 7:16 PM RT @AngelaMaiers: @micwalker Being #passiondriven is a must! #edchat mrsblanchetnet 1/18/11 7:17 PM RT @Luke1946: Too many admins think a quiet classroom=good classroom. #edchat AngelaMaiers 1/18/11 7:17 PM @tomwhitby @andycinek - teachers have the power to change the talk in the classroom- our words have power! #edchat mathtech 1/18/11 7:17 PM #edchat - Have students help in the teaching process- students learn by teaching/teachers watch and learn too. DahlD 1/18/11 7:17 PM @EngTeachChick You are so right! #edchat

aunthattie 1/18/11 7:17 PM I "talk" more to teachers on twitter than I do in my building. I share links and read rss feeds. Find cool tools for my classroom #edchat tim_yocum 1/18/11 7:17 PM Agreed. RT @reasoningmind: We need to do a better job of encouraging/cultivating tech literacy in teachers/admins. #edchat becky7274 1/18/11 7:17 PM Allow students however much time the need to learn a skill instead of pushing them to move on because the unit is "over" #edchat

Luke1946 1/18/11 7:17 PM classroom=good classroom. #edchat

Too many admins think a quiet

shelleypa 1/18/11 7:17 PM RT @rjwassink: Stop pretending any children will be left behind if they don't score in the top x% on the state test... #edchat mrsblanchetnet 1/18/11 7:17 PM It's really tough when you're always trying something new. The kids (and their parents) get really uncomfortable. #edchat web20classroom 1/18/11 7:17 PM @mbteach And I think we need much more of that. I don't see schools as the centers of communities anymore. #edchat hoosjon 1/18/11 7:17 PM RT @EngTeachChick: #edchat How can you expect stdnts to learn if you are disengaged with what they find interesting? Teachers need to be connected socially too EngTeachChick 1/18/11 7:17 PM #edchat Don't listen to other teachers' opinions or scores about students...expect the best from all regardless of past scores SECottrell 1/18/11 7:17 PM Having a YouTube channel to showcase students on a broad scale is a nightmare of parental permission forms @AngelaMaiers #edchat lookforsun 1/18/11 7:17 PM @kylepace @AngelaMaiers #edchat Yes, showcase as many talents and learning projects as possible - spread the good work, invite discussion. davidwees 1/18/11 7:17 PM Innovations that are working: Schools without time-tables: See Mary Ward in Ontario for example http://maryward.ca/ #edchat rodaniel 1/18/11 7:17 PM RT @EngTeachChick: #edchat Lose standardized testing. Realize that creativity is important and the answer isn't C tomwhitby 1/18/11 7:17 PM @andycinek We need to change the culture yes, but we can't even get control of the conversation. It has been stolen by business. #edchat kylepace 1/18/11 7:17 PM @mbteach @web20classroom Have to get more community involvement too. #edchat bhsprincipal 1/18/11 7:17 PM RT @AngelaMaiers: RT @peterflom: #edchat In Hebrew "to teach" is "to cause to learn" LOVE THAT! #edchat

reasoningmind 1/18/11 7:17 PM We need to do a better job of encouraging/cultivating tech literacy in teachers/admins. #edchat azjd 1/18/11 7:17 PM The World Needs More Social Entrepreneurs - emphasize real world skills http://bit.ly/b7WsfI #edchat 21stprincipal 1/18/11 7:17 PM @reasoningmind Train teachers then toss out the textbooks. Too many still rely on textbook problems and reading. #edchat andycinek 1/18/11 7:17 PM @web20classroom Look at #SLA they have the right recipe for learning and beyond, but every school is not SLA #edchat rodaniel 1/18/11 7:18 PM @andycinek If they don't have teachers in mind, then whom do they have in mind? #edchat and why do yo think so? jmalphy 1/18/11 7:18 PM RT @mathtech: #edchat - Have students help in the teaching process- students learn by teaching/teachers watch and learn too. mrkaiser208 1/18/11 7:18 PM @davidwees I have been using Any Video Converter, but today it didn't work. The story is here http://bit.ly/iajqkE #edchat stumpteacher 1/18/11 7:18 PM outdated beforw the ink dries #edchat @mathartist agreed but textbooks are

AngelaMaiers 1/18/11 7:18 PM @SECottrell - that would be worth working around- could start with privatized channel #edchat mbteach 1/18/11 7:18 PM I think we need to be talking more TO busness people in ed rather than talking ABOUT them. Let them hear realities of our day to day #edchat mgraffin 1/18/11 7:18 PM RT @aunthattie: I "talk" more to teachers on twitter than I do in my building. I share links and read rss feeds. Find cool tools for my classroom #edchat CoachB0066 1/18/11 guys! #edchat 7:18 PM @kylepace @bhsprincipal Thanks

andycinek 1/18/11 7:18 PM @tomwhitby Again, I agree, this is a lofty discussion. However, we need to give our students the best opportunity with what we have #edchat johnsonmaryj 1/18/11 Survive #edchat" link? 7:18 PM What happened to that "How to

whatedsaid 1/18/11 7:18 PM RT @davidwees: Another innovation which is working: Assessment for learning. See the IBO http://ibo.org with thousands of schools world wide. #edchat aynsavoy 1/18/11 7:18 PM RT @reasoningmind: We need to do a better job of encouraging/cultivating tech literacy in teachers/admins. #edchat bruno_cesar82 1/18/11 7:18 PM RT @Tekkietalk: RT @andycinek: When u give sts the keys 2learning (autonomy)they thrive.Look at ur classroom, would u want 2b there? #edchat bhsprincipal 1/18/11 7:18 PM @CoachB0066 Topic is ed reform what should stay and what should go #edchat sammorra 1/18/11 7:18 PM Educators need to lead the discussion on reform. There are great things going on in our schools. We need to communicate better. #edchat kylepace 1/18/11 7:18 PM @CoachB0066 Considering edu reform today, what innovations , strategies, or methods should be added, or dropped, or maintained? #edchat jmalphy 1/18/11 7:18 PM RT @tomwhitby: @andycinek We need to change the culture yes, but we can't even get control of the conversation. It has been stolen by business. #edchat davidwees 1/18/11 7:18 PM Another innovation which is working: Assessment for learning. See the IBO http://ibo.org with thousands of schools world wide. #edchat debbiefuco 1/18/11 7:18 PM RT @carolgau: #edchat We have to keep creativity students already have & teach them how to problem solve & critically think about issues. peterflom 1/18/11 7:18 PM When I pointed that out to an education professor, she got upset #edchat If no one is learning, then no one is teaching djainslie 1/18/11 7:18 PM @reasoningmind glad you included admin- needs 2 b modeled on all levels #edchat kylepace 1/18/11 7:18 PM @SECottrell @AngelaMaiers It shouldn't be a nightmare if the purpose is clearly defined from the beginning. #edchat web20classroom 1/18/11 7:18 PM @andycinek But does every school have the right opportunity to be? Sure. I just takes work and dedication. #edchat

stumpteacher 1/18/11 7:18 PM @web20classroom I would love to share some positive reforms but currently on bus home from bball game. Will blog later. #edchat EngTeachChick 1/18/11 7:18 PM of community support, esp parent support. whatedsaid 1/18/11 7:18 PM learning community #edchat whatedsaid 1/18/11 7:18 PM learning community #edchat #edchat Definitely an increase

Important for teacher to be part of the Important for teacher to be part of the

21stprincipal 1/18/11 7:18 PM Get out your textbooks the most dreaded words in the world by students today. #edchat 21stprincipal 1/18/11 7:18 PM Get out your textbooks the most dreaded words in the world by students today. #edchat andycinek 1/18/11 7:19 PM @web20classroom Agreed. Every school has the right to be the best and emulate great systems,but many don't have the leaders to push #edchat RyanRidout 1/18/11 7:19 PM Building relationships is very important; how do we work to build these skills in our new ad future instructors? #edchat teachernz should t 1/18/11 7:19 PM .@tomwhitby #edchat curriculum

web20classroom 1/18/11 7:19 PM Just because something is used in Edu differently from the way we want to doesn't make it bad. #edchat debbiefuco 1/18/11 7:19 PM RT @whatedsaid: @tim_yocum They need to learn how to think and how to learn #edchat azjd 1/18/11 7:19 PM RT @cybraryman1: I see more combination of face to fact & tech combination. My Blended Learning page: http://bit.ly/dybHNO #edchat EngTeachChick 1/18/11 7:19 PM #edchat if the community won't come to you, bring your class to the community. Build relationships and encourage ownership of learning rodaniel 1/18/11 7:19 PM learning and creativity? #edchat @tomwhitby How do we foster both

21stprincipal 1/18/11 7:19 PM @rgallwitz Not a problem with textbooks on iPad unless it is just a textbook on an iPad. Little difference in engagement there. #edchat mzayfert 1/18/11 7:19 PM @savesasnore Teachers are tested for minimum teaching capabilitities before they can teach. They should have those skills. #edchat AngelaMaiers 1/18/11 #edchat 7:19 PM @kylepace @SECottrell totally agree!

andreamiller20 1/18/11 7:19 PM @mbteach I completely agree! Businesses need be invested in our schools - especially local ones. #edchat reasoningmind 1/18/11 7:19 PM @djainslie of course! I don't think a school can operate properly in 2011 with a principal who can't respond to email. #edchat djgallagher 1/18/11 7:19 PM Access to technology for all students and parents is need in every school is part of the keys to a new system of education #edchat 2footgiraffe 1/18/11 7:19 PM @21stprincipal I think book information in still valuable but that shouldn't be the soul source. Thought? #edchat padgets 1/18/11 7:19 PM RT @cybraryman1: My Critical Thinking and Problem Based Learning page: http://bit.ly/9n44v3 #edchat DahlD 1/18/11 7:19 PM RT @web20classroom: I do believe one thing that should go is that everything is bad and we should start over. I think things are used and abused. #edchat ljhardin 1/18/11 7:19 PM RT: @DogIsRed If we want to change the education system, is begins with educating parents about Why rest results are not everything #edchat cybraryman1 1/18/11 7:19 PM My Critical Thinking and Problem Based Learning page: http://bit.ly/9n44v3 #edchat web20classroom 1/18/11 7:19 PM I do believe one thing that should go is that everything is bad and we should start over. I think things are used and abused. #edchat azjd 1/18/11 7:19 PM Need be reflective (open to change) all practices. Don't throw the baby out with the bath water...but look closely at the water. #edchat

BeckyLubbers 1/18/11 7:19 PM #noboces and #edchat #NEBOCES rgallwitz 1/18/11 is an iPad! #edchat 7:19 PM

@raffelsol I will be following

@21stprincipal unless your textbook

bruno_cesar82 1/18/11 7:20 PM RT @Luke1946: Get rid of the rows of desks. A few tables will suffice for writing surfaces, if needed. Cushions & comfy chairs! #edchat lookforsun 1/18/11 7:20 PM #edchat Keep and develop awesome, beautiful, grassy, playful playgrounds for all elementary school students - they need to play. rjwassink 1/18/11 7:20 PM @tomwhitby I sometimes wish I did manufacture widgets. I've got a great pattern to use! :-) #edchat web20classroom 1/18/11 7:20 PM @andycinek So then should we spend more time developing leaders? I sure think so. Definitely one thing that is lacking. #edchat peterflom 1/18/11 7:20 PM #edchat Some very good teaching happened before electricity. Too much emphasis on tech and gizmos. We learn with neurons, not electrons andycinek 1/18/11 7:20 PM @AngelaMaiers @tomwhitby When you change the rhetoric from what we have to do, to what can we do, then we make progress #edchat jonbergmann 1/18/11 7:20 PM RT @isteconnects: Increase base pay for teachers. It should be a competitive career choice for top students #edchat cybraryman1 1/18/11 7:20 PM RT @djainslie: @djgallagher and give support with hands-on PD in building, tools are not enough #edchat CoachB0066 1/18/11 to #educon #edchat 7:20 PM @bhsprincipal of course! will bring it

davidwees 1/18/11 7:20 PM @bryanjack I'm still paying off my student loan for my education degree as well, 8 years later... #edchat whatedsaid 1/18/11 7:20 PM It helps if the school has articulated beliefs about learning and everyone's on the same page #edchat 21stprincipal 1/18/11 7:20 PM @2footgiraffe Sure books still useful, but most textbooks are boring and unengaging. Hard to get excited about chapter questions! #edchat

DahlD 1/18/11 7:20 PM Absolutely! RT @isteconnects: Increase base pay for teachers. It should be a competitive career choice for top students #edchat bruno_cesar82 1/18/11 7:20 PM #edchat I'm utterly convinced that if we want to see THE change we ought to let go of the old educational clichs. AngelaMaiers 1/18/11 7:20 PM @andreamiller20 @mbteach -they want to be, but are rarely asked as parteners too often as donater's #edchat shawdave 1/18/11 7:20 PM #edchat I wish our school leaders wouldn't jump on every new bandwagon that comes down the road. dobrien917 1/18/11 7:20 PM Why is that trust in teachers so rare at times? @annebeninghof: #edchat What about giving teachers the freedom to choose websites... johnsonmaryj 1/18/11 7:20 PM @web20classroom "Everything should go" is a political solution, and a deeply disturbing one. Negates all we have done. #edchat djainslie 1/18/11 7:20 PM @djgallagher and give support with hands-on PD in building, tools are not enough #edchat sammorra 1/18/11 7:20 PM RT @tomwhitby: We are educators and not widget manufacturers. We need a better understanding of what is expected compared to what we do. #Edchat isteconnects 1/18/11 7:20 PM Increase base pay for teachers. It should be a competitive career choice for top students #edchat NotebookNick 1/18/11 7:20 PM Anyone got any cool videos or websites that deal with electroscopes? I'm interested for this week's science classes. #edchat lookforsun 1/18/11 7:20 PM @azjd #edchat - Definitely don't get rid of what is essential and what's working. ljhardin 1/18/11 7:20 PM RT @tomwhitby: @andycinek We need to change the culture yes, but we can't even get control of the conversation. It has been stolen by business. #edchat brophycat 1/18/11 7:20 PM RT @web20classroom: Just because something is used in Edu differently from the way we want to doesn't make it bad. #edchat elightkeeper 1/18/11 7:20 PM @21stprincipal "It's on the test" second most dreaded words by students today #edchat

MissLadyCaz 1/18/11 7:20 PM Collegial discussions in peer learning teams and in PLN foster shared goals and benefit students, imo #edchat rjwassink 1/18/11 7:20 PM more working in the community, more assistantships, more real-life learning and less preparing for the nebulous "real world" #edchat koreaDexy 1/18/11 7:20 PM RT @davidwees: If teacher quality is so important, why are our budgets for teacher training so tiny? #edchat azjd 1/18/11 7:20 PM RT @davidwees: Innovations that are working: Schools without time-tables: See Mary Ward in Ontario for example http://maryward.ca/ #edchat tomwhitby 1/18/11 7:20 PM We are educators and not widget manufacturers. We need a better understanding of what is expected compared to what we do. #Edchat cybraryman1 1/18/11 7:20 PM @mbteach We have to work better with business people and form partnerships #edchat ExcentK12 1/18/11 7:20 PM #Tech one key to preparing kids for college... http://ow.ly/3FSNu #edchat #edtech 21stprincipal 1/18/11 too. #edchat 7:21 PM @rgallwitz Love my iPad and ereaders @CoachB0066 @bhsprincipal will you

AngelaMaiers 1/18/11 7:21 PM both be at Educon??? #edchat

tbunner 1/18/11 7:21 PM RT @bhsprincipal: RT @andycinek: There is no denying edu is in a flux but let's prove 'them' wrong in the classroom rather than w/ redundant rhetoric #edchat DogIsRed 1/18/11 7:21 PM #edchat educational change begins with educating the parents why testing & numerically quantifiable results are NOT what our children need. shelleypa 1/18/11 7:21 PM #edchat we need to develop parent prof dev to help them understand new models - hybrid options, project-based learning, differentiation stumpteacher 1/18/11 7:21 PM Dont toss the baby out with bathwater. Evolve what doesnt work and keep what does. #edchat mrsblanchetnet 1/18/11 7:21 PM I think its important 2 prepare kids 4 adult lives, but I dnt like that edreform is being driven by the needs of business alone #edchat

justintarte 1/18/11 7:21 PM RT @tamurray: Change needs to start with T's learning next to the S's....if we model life long learning.....it will catch on eventually :) #edchat bhsprincipal 1/18/11 7:21 PM @shawdave I wish school leaders... and I wish teachers.... these generalizations need to stop. #edchat 2footgiraffe 1/18/11 7:21 PM interactive textbooks? #edchat @21stprincipal agreed. online

rodaniel 1/18/11 7:21 PM @rgallwitz Don't some of those students work for test scores that determine their future? or their parents who pay for tutoring? #edchat andycinek 1/18/11 7:21 PM #edchat RE: developing leaders whatedsaid 1/18/11 7:21 PM time.. one lesson at a time #edchat @web20classroom HELL YES! :) @Tekkietalk Just start one teacher at a

davidwees 1/18/11 7:21 PM Innovation not working: Throwing under prepared teachers in the classroom after a 6 week training course... #edchat elem_principal 1/18/11 7:21 PM RT @AngelaMaiers: RT @cybraryman1: Some redesigning schools links on my Architecture page: http://bit.ly/a0zI0f #edchat rgallwitz 1/18/11 7:21 PM @21stprincipal that may be another debate for another time, iPad textbooks. #edchat web20classroom 1/18/11 7:21 PM @johnsonmaryj Yet there are some here in this space that would argue that is what we should do. The only way to fix things. #edchat brophycat 1/18/11 7:21 PM so why did teachers stop using PBL if that' s what they did 20 years ago and they knew it worked? What changed? #edchat Tekkietalk 1/18/11 7:21 PM #edchat All great ideas, big ideas, but how do you start? Simple, practical steps? Throw it all out and start over isn't going to happen. whatedsaid 1/18/11 7:21 PM RT @peterflom: #edchat Some very good teaching happened before electricity. Too much emphasis on tech and gizmos. We learn with neurons, not electrons

mzayfert 1/18/11 7:21 PM RT @web20classroom: Just because something is used in Edu differently from the way we want to doesn't make it bad. #edchat sinetpd360 1/18/11 7:21 PM Blog: Mathemusician Determined to Make Math Fun for Everyone http://bit.ly/gpUBq2 #edchat #education #edu ljhardin 1/18/11 7:21 PM RT @Luke1946: Too many admins think a quiet classroom=good classroom. #edchat brophycat 1/18/11 7:22 PM RT @EngTeachChick: There isn't a simple answer, nor a single answer. We need to differentiate, not just with students, but with teachers #edchat rodaniel 1/18/11 7:22 PM RT @tomwhitby: @andycinek We need to test (assess) what kids are learning and not teach them how to beat the test. #Edchat davidwees 1/18/11 7:22 PM @JosieHolford I talked to a teacher from Mary Ward a week ago. He said the students choose their exact schedule each day. #edchat TeachPaperless 1/18/11 7:22 PM classroom: http://ht.ly/3G9nR #edchat mbteach 1/18/11 7:22 PM step up and BE those leaders #edchat @kylepace Here's our

@bhsprincipal @shawdave we need to

philhart 1/18/11 7:22 PM RT @tomwhitby: We are educators and not widget manufacturers. We need a better understanding of what is expected compared to what we do. #Edchat 21stprincipal 1/18/11 7:22 PM @2footgiraffe Online interactive textbooks is getting better. Question I would ask is it engaging? #edchat 2footgiraffe 1/18/11 7:22 PM were short interactive articles #edchat @21stprincipal be nice if "text books"

reasoningmind 1/18/11 7:22 PM @davidwees some of those teachers are doing well. The question is how can we tell? #edchat rgallwitz 1/18/11 7:22 PM @tomwhitby As soon as we understand what is expected, it changes! #edchat teachernz 1/18/11 7:22 PM .@tomwhitby #edchat curriculum should reflect community... urban schools = urban learning contexts... rural schools = rural contexts

annebeninghof 1/18/11 7:22 PM @peterflom We need to tch students and parents how neurons thrive #edchat EngTeachChick 1/18/11 7:22 PM There isn't a simple answer, nor a single answer. We need to differentiate, not just with students, but with teachers #edchat rodaniel 1/18/11 7:22 PM only response is I HOPE SO! #edchat @peterflom Great question, and my

SECottrell 1/18/11 7:22 PM @kylepace @AngelaMaiers true but in discovering most of the world doesn't live in our Twitterverse I've found many reluctant #edchat tim_yocum 1/18/11 7:22 PM @rodaniel Foster learning and creativity by providing starting point and a goal and guiding students in the direction of the goal. #edchat lookforsun 1/18/11 7:22 PM tech, Keep the human touch. #edchat Keep great books, Keep great

mbteach 1/18/11 7:22 PM @AngelaMaiers @andreamiller20 I think we also tend to vilify them. Most just want to help. They do need some 'schooling' on reality #edchat tkraz 1/18/11 7:22 PM RT @rgallwitz: @21stprincipal that may be another debate for another time, iPad textbooks.<- would love to be part of that disc #edchat kylepace 1/18/11 7:23 PM @SECottrell @AngelaMaiers Reluctance will always be around with all the negative connotations. Just have to share the positives! #edchat rodaniel 1/18/11 7:23 PM @tim_yocum Good point! #edchat I certainly agree that direction is important tkraz 1/18/11 7:23 PM @teachernz @tomwhitby then Ss could collab online to learn and share about each other's contexts. #edchat johnsonmaryj 1/18/11 7:23 PM @web20classroom Of course, what teacher has not dreamed of starting over from scratch? #edchat becky7274 1/18/11 7:23 PM @EngTeachChick: So true -- not all teachers are on the same level. PD should be provided with that in mind! #edchat ericjuli1/18/11 7:23 PM When I went to hs, real world was later-for students today-real world is now-teaching and learning needs to reflect this shift #edchat

web20classroom 1/18/11 7:23 PM @andycinek And in addition to that, taking the time to develop student leaders and cultivate those qualities and all. #edchat rjwassink 1/18/11 7:23 PM What if the baby is the problem, not the bath water? Careful what you toss. #edchat 2footgiraffe 1/18/11 7:23 PM @21stprincipal I like the word engaging, as you said. Is the learning method engaging? nice measuring stick #edchat davidwees 1/18/11 7:23 PM @JosieHolford You can look at Bishop Carroll (http://is.gd/sO16uD) or Thomas Haney instead for similar model (http://www.thss.ca/) #edchat 21stprincipal 1/18/11 7:23 PM @tkraz Hey, iPad shows lots of potential, but if you just put textbook text on an iPad, well not sure you're doing much different. #edchat thart74 1/18/11 7:23 PM . @bhsprincipal @kylepace we have an awesome initiative for that going in our district. Check out Bright Futures on facebook. #edchat andycinek 1/18/11 7:23 PM @web20classroom Not just leaders in curr. and inst. but leaders who know grasp innovation& understand students must adapt to change #edchat mrsblanchetnet 1/18/11 7:23 PM I'm a living example that finding your passion in life is more important than "marketablility" #edchat AyaAcademy 1/18/11 7:23 PM Teaching what we have always taught that has little relevance to kids' $ their future is futile who needs trig? #edchat SECottrell 1/18/11 7:23 PM @AngelaMaiers @kylepace one good workaround I've found is to orchestrate video to not show students - private channel also good idea #edchat TeachPaperless 1/18/11 7:23 PM classroom: http://ht.ly/3G9ow #edchat @kylepace Here's our

peterflom 1/18/11 7:23 PM All teachers should read Hooray for Diffendoofer Day. By Dr. Seuss (and friends) #edchat stumpteacher 1/18/11 7:23 PM RT @isteconnects: Increase base pay for teachers. It should be a competitive career choice for top students #edchat annebeninghof 1/18/11 7:23 PM #edchat going out on a limb again. Does anyone think that tenure needs to be reformed?

andreamiller20 1/18/11 7:23 PM @isteconnects incrsng base pay only attrcts new Ts who don't often stay + 3 yrs - incrse the pay for +yrs exp. get good T to stay #edchat raffelsol 1/18/11 7:23 PM I will follow #edchat #neboces

andycinek 1/18/11 7:23 PM @web20classroom Not just leaders in curr. and inst. but leaders who know grasp innovation&understand students must adapt to change #edchat davidwees 1/18/11 7:24 PM Innovation that is working: Introducing thousands of teachers to new ideas through social media... like #edchat for example. annebeninghof 1/18/11 7:24 PM #edchat Going out on a limb again. Does anyone think tenure should be reformed? AngelaMaiers 1/18/11 7:24 PM RT @BeckyFisher73: "You cant solve a problem with the same thinking that created it." Einstein THINK DIFFERENTLY ed reform. #edchat carolgau 1/18/11 7:24 PM @Tekkietalk #edchat I think you start one teacher changing at a time, not easy but I see small signs that some change is on the horizon. 2footgiraffe 1/18/11 7:24 PM RT @21stprincipal: @2footgiraffe & it's easy 2 C if students R engaged or not. If U hear snoring, chances R engagement's missing. #edchat CoachB0066 1/18/11 7:24 PM In a simple way, we need to answer the question, "when will I ever use this?" RELEVANCE for students! #edchat rjwassink 1/18/11 7:24 PM I may be in the minority, but I'd rather see the very best students go into engineering and medicine than teaching... #edchat cybraryman1 1/18/11 7:24 PM really listen. It's their learning #edchat RT @whatedsaid: Listen to students...

crgyro 1/18/11 7:24 PM collaborative work efforts and sharing of knowledge among staff/teachers...why recreate the wheel year after year? #edchat JeffreyLDecker 1/18/11 7:24 PM RT @dannymaas: Pic says 1000 words!->RT @whatedsaid: Changing role of the teacher: http://bit.ly/hDU7A7 #edchat #etcata #inspiringed

ljhardin 1/18/11 7:24 PM RT: @lookforsun #edchat Keep great books, Keep great tech, Keep the human touch. Perfect! Addresses all of the basic impt factors. whatedsaid 1/18/11 their learning #edchat tkraz 1/18/11 7:24 PM Listen to students... really listen. It's

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@21stprincipal Baby steps. #edchat

jackiegerstein1/18/11 7:24 PM RT @BeckyFisher73: "You can't solve a problem with the same thinking that created it." Einstein #edchat THINK DIFFERENTLY about/for ed reform. mbteach 1/18/11 7:24 PM @andycinek @web20classroom also leaders who are humble and not afraid to drop something that isn't working #edchat 21stprincipal 1/18/11 7:24 PM @2footgiraffe And it's easy to see if students are engaged or not. If you hear snoring, chances are engagement's missing. #edchat tomwhitby 1/18/11 7:24 PM @andycinek We can't get educators to agree on what we should be doing.If we agreed, we probably wouldn't have High stakes testing #edchat akamomteach 1/18/11 7:24 PM African-American Poetry TeacherVision.com http://t.co/kFo5mGQ #kidlit #edchat #blackedu EngTeachChick 1/18/11 7:24 PM We need to not be afraid of new things. If it doesn't work, try something else. Eventually, something will work #edchat web20classroom 1/18/11 7:24 PM @johnsonmaryj Oh sure. I have even done it but I know it isn't the answer. There are things that are working. We need to find them. #edchat BeckyFisher73 1/18/11 7:24 PM You can't solve a problem with the same thinking that created it. Einstein #edchat THINK DIFFERENTLY about/for ed reform. cybraryman1 1/18/11 7:24 PM RT @shelleypa: #edchat we need to develop parent prof dev to help them understand new models - hybrid options, PBL differentiation 2footgiraffe 1/18/11 Engaging? #edchat 7:24 PM Is it a learning method if it isn't

BeckyFisher73 1/18/11 7:24 PM You can't solve a problem with the same thinking that created it. Einstein #edchat THINK DIFFERENTLY about/for ed reform whatedsaid 1/18/11 7:25 PM student follow their passion... #edchat @RjWassink I'd rather see every

djainslie 1/18/11 7:25 PM @annebeninghof YES I have found that 90% of time tenure protects those who shouldn't be protected #edchat becky7274 1/18/11 7:25 PM @whatedsaid - worst part is when I listen to the kids and feel like I can't make things right by them #edchat andycinek 1/18/11 7:25 PM @tomwhitby and it never will be in agreement, so we just need to prepare our students now the best we can to learn for life #edchat MissShuganah 1/18/11 7:25 PM @RjWassink Your meaning is understood, but I think that is an unfortuante choice of words. #edchat annebeninghof 1/18/11 7:25 PM RT @21stprincipal: @2footgiraffe And it's easy to see if students are engaged or not. If you hear snoring, chances are engagement's missing. #edchat justintarte 1/18/11 7:25 PM RT @EngTeachChick: #edchat if the community won't come to you, bring your class to the community. Build relationships and encourage ownership of learning 21stprincipal 1/18/11 7:25 PM @tkraz Sure, but hard to argue with powers that be the need for all those iPads if you're only plastering textbooks on them. #edchat Luke1946 1/18/11 7:25 PM And never underestimate to power of a "Sub" to stir up the pot. #edchat (I'm retired and still sub.) #edchat web20classroom 1/18/11 7:25 PM @andycinek Bingo and I bet if we spent just a little bit of time on that things would change dramatically. #edchat mzayfert 1/18/11 7:25 PM @21stprincipal prob. based teaching is taught in highter ed. need to start earl, & purge unknowledgeable teachers in system. #edchat kylepace 1/18/11 7:25 PM What about student involvement re: edu reform? How much should we value their input? #edchat whatedsaid 1/18/11 7:25 PM RT @mbteach: @andycinek @web20classroom also leaders who are humble and not afraid to drop something that isn't working #edchat

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rodaniel 1/18/11 7:25 PM @shelleypa do schools need to be directed to move away from seat time as a requirement and let kids learn at their own pace? #edchat rgallwitz 1/18/11 7:25 PM @2footgiraffe with pictures, links, video, graphs, charts, sounds, animation and oh yeah content! #edchat andycinek 1/18/11 7:25 PM @web20classroom and community leaders. Agreed. It takes a village of learners to combat the system and just persevere #edchat djgallagher 1/18/11 7:25 PM @djainslie: @djgallagher and give support with hands-on PD in building, tools are not enough #edchatneed strong leaders EngTeachChick 1/18/11 7:25 PM Make an effort to TALK to your students and LISTEN to their responses. #edchat lookforsun 1/18/11 7:25 PM @21stprincipal @2footgiraffe #edchat advantage of ebooks, look up vocab, listen to words phrases thus increasing comprehension. mzayfert 1/18/11 7:26 PM RT @bhsprincipal: #edchat Respectful discourse needs to start with us! Always has and will be our role to model this. Needed now more than ever. #edchat rgallwitz 1/18/11 7:26 PM @tomwhitby we should never agree because one size does not fit all! #edchat djgallagher 1/18/11 7:26 PM RT @bhsprincipal: #edchat Respectful discourse needs to start with us! Always has and will be our role to model this. Needed now more than ever. #edchat andycinek 1/18/11 7:26 PM @web20classroom RIght, we could spend days talking about what's wrong, but lets shift to what we can plausibly do today #edchat whatedsaid 1/18/11 7:26 PM @kylepace Student involvement in their own learning... should be obvious no? #edchat thecleversheep 1/18/11 7:26 PM Do we assess blog posts or other thought-provoking articles by assigning a grade? Comments rule everywhere but the classroom. #edchat

stumpteacher 1/18/11 7:26 PM RT @davidwees: Innovation that is working: Introducing thousands of teachers to new ideas through social media... like #edchat for example. fleetnglympse 1/18/11 7:26 PM so true RT @CoachB0066: In a simple way, we need to answer the question, "when will I ever use this?" RELEVANCE for students! #edchat AngelaMaiers 1/18/11 7:26 PM RT @whatedsaid: @RjWassink Id rather see every student follow their passion... Me, too! #passion driven #edchat EngTeachChick fests #edchat 1/18/11 7:26 PM Realize that PLCs are NOT bi*ch

peterflom 1/18/11 7:26 PM @coachb0066 "Relevance" should be irrelevant. #edchat. There is no relevance#edchat bruno_cesar82 1/18/11 7:26 PM RT @lookforsun: #edchat Keep great books, Keep great tech, Keep the human touch. wendythomas 1/18/11 7:26 PM RT @shyj: Love this for classroom use when viewing YouTube videos: http://viewpure.com/ #edchat shelleypa 1/18/11 7:26 PM #edchat student involvement is critical - watch pre-teens and teens teach each other while playing live webbased video games. cybraryman1 1/18/11 7:26 PM Students & parents along with community should be included in ed reform #edchat mbteach 1/18/11 7:26 PM @bhsprincipal @shawdave didn't see the earlier conv. I think teachers think they are powerless & forget that they can be leaders too #edchat reasoningmind 1/18/11 7:26 PM PLCs work! RT @davidwees: Innovation that is working: Introducing thousands of teachers to new ideas through social media... like #edchat. web20classroom 1/18/11 7:26 PM RT @bhsprincipal: #edchat Respectful discourse needs to start with us! Always has and will be our role to model this. Needed now more than ever. #edchat 2footgiraffe 1/18/11 7:26 PM RT @lookforsun: @21stprincipal @2footgiraffe #edchat advantage of ebooks, look up vocab, listen 2 words phrases thus increasing comprhnsion. 2footgiraffe 1/18/11 7:26 PM RT @lookforsun: @21stprincipal @2footgiraffe #edchat advantage of ebooks, look up vocab, listen 2 words phrases thus increasing comprhnsion.

bruno_cesar82 1/18/11 7:26 PM RT @rodaniel Foster learning and creativity by providing starting point and a goal and guiding sts in the direction of the goal. #edchat bruno_cesar82 1/18/11 7:26 PM RT @rodaniel Foster learning and creativity by providing starting point and a goal and guiding sts in the direction of the goal. #edchat bhsprincipal 1/18/11 7:26 PM #edchat Respectful discourse needs to start with us! Always has and will be our role to model this. Needed now more than ever. #edchat rodaniel 1/18/11 7:26 PM RT @EngTeachChick: There isn't a simple answer, nor a single answer. We need to differentiate, not just with students, but with teachers #edchat web20classroom 1/18/11 7:26 PM @andycinek And in most cases, little to no funds are needed. Just all time and effort. #edchat lookforsun 1/18/11 7:26 PM touch is essential - we are social beings. @EngTeachChick #edchat The human

2footgiraffe 1/18/11 7:26 PM RT @rgallwitz: with pictures, links, video, graphs, charts, sounds, animation and oh yeah content! #edchat haledogg 1/18/11 7:26 PM @davidwees VP wife prsented to teacher candidates today on A&E; surprised by their lack of knowledge about Ed issues #edchat rodaniel 1/18/11 7:27 PM @peterflom then what do we do for the students of the teachers who think they were born teachers? #edchat bhsprincipal 1/18/11 7:27 PM RT @CoachB0066: @mbteach @bhsprincipal @shawdave Each teacher is a leader is a BIG way, each day and for EACH student!! #edchat 21stprincipal 1/18/11 7:27 PM @QueensTeacher1 Realistically, textbooks with us little longer. Students do not benefit from teaching that uses textbooks as crutch. #edchat azjd 1/18/11 7:27 PM @kylepace Think we underestimate the value students can bring to the school reform discussion. They need to play a part. #edchat MissShuganah 1/18/11 7:27 PM your students are not widgets. #edchat @tomwhitby More to the point,

CoachB0066 1/18/11 7:27 PM @mbteach @bhsprincipal @shawdave Each teacher is a leader is a BIG way, each day and for EACH student!! #edchat isteconnects 1/18/11 7:27 PM RT @EngTeachChick: #edchat if the community won't come to you, bring your class to the community. Build relationships and encourage ownership of learning newfirewithin 1/18/11 7:27 PM @kylepace Good question! I think many students know what they want, but not exactly how to get there. #edchat bhsprincipal 1/18/11 7:27 PM schools can differ dramatically. #edchat @mbteach Sadly, I know the culture of

thecleversheep 1/18/11 7:27 PM Some even think we should be assessing graffiti... http://bit.ly/ho5Q4V #edchat teachernz 1/18/11 7:27 PM @L_Hilt #edchat and that could be done with comparisons and what ifs? But need local context for relevance BeckyFisher73 1/18/11 7:27 PM NCLB does not require knowledge and recall level tests. The issue is reductionism by state DOEs, not accountability by feds. #edchat andycinek 1/18/11 7:27 PM Guess what? the system will always have flaws. What are you doing today to instill the best learning practices in your students? #edchat crgyro 1/18/11 7:27 PM encourage action research and allow the teachers at a school to find what works, stop turning to a "program" to solve all problems #edchat mbteach 1/18/11 7:27 PM Coming from a district run by the state, we need more local control for schools #edchat shannoninottawa 1/18/11 7:27 PM Yes! RT @bhsprincipal: #edchat Respectful discourse needs 2 start with us! Always will b our role 2 model this. Needed now more than ever. ChrisVacek 1/18/11 7:27 PM 7:27 PM #edchat hi all, sorry I'm late to the fun. @RjWassink Why is that? #edchat

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davidwees 1/18/11 7:27 PM RT @thecleversheep: Do we assess blog posts or other thought-provoking articles by assigning a grade? Comments rule everywhere but the classroom. #edchat peterflom 1/18/11 7:27 PM born and then made #edchat @rodaniel I think great teachers are

reasoningmind 1/18/11 7:27 PM that PLCs are NOT bi*ch fests #edchat

RT @engteachchick: Realize

tomwhitby 1/18/11 7:27 PM @annebeninghof Since you asked here is my Tenure response. Read it later.Tenure's Tenure. http://bit.ly/aBFnFm #edchat whatedsaid 1/18/11 7:27 PM your ...um.. passion! #passion #edchat @AngelaMaiers Oh yes, I know that's

mrsblanchetnet 1/18/11 7:27 PM RT @AngelaMaiers: RT @whatedsaid: @RjWassink Id rather see every student follow their passion... Me, too! #passion driven #edchat 21stprincipal 1/18/11 7:27 PM @2footgiraffe Now that's an argument for ebooks! What do they do better than regular text? Answer that and you win argument. #edchat SECottrell 1/18/11 7:27 PM What about seniors whose minds are in the future and refuse to be engaged? When ed is useless in the mind of the focal person? #edchat kylepace 1/18/11 7:28 PM #edchat George! Thank you for sharing! @oline73 You're not spamming

davidwees 1/18/11 7:28 PM Innovation needed: Selection of curriculum & content. Our current system cannot possibly hope to keep up. http://is.gd/r2dOYM #edchat peterflom 1/18/11 that #edchat 7:28 PM @rodaniel Huh? I am not sure I follow

justintarte 1/18/11 7:28 PM RT @azjd: @kylepace Think we underestimate the value students can bring to the school reform discussion. They need to play a part. #edchat TeachPaperless 1/18/11 7:28 PM RT @azjd: @kylepace Think we underestimate the value students can bring to the school reform discussion. They need to play a part. #edchat reasoningmind 1/18/11 7:28 PM thoughts on parent-trigger legislation? RT @mbteach: Coming from a district run by the state, we need more local control for schools #edchat dobrien917 1/18/11 7:28 PM As is the case for some teachers as well. RT @kylepace I think many students know what they want, but not exactly how to get there. #edchat

21stprincipal 1/18/11 7:28 PM @reasoningmind That's where it starts! How can the technology -ebooks-make engaging text better? #edchat tkraz 1/18/11 7:28 PM @21stprincipal create an eText that contains variety of media to be used on most devices. We need to create the prototypes. #edchat tomwhitby 1/18/11 7:28 PM @rgallwitz We don't have to agree on methods but we should have basic common principles. #edchat shelleypa 1/18/11 7:28 PM #edchat @rodaniel I do think seat time, locations, and levels of expertise can be flexible. can/should all kids be 100% equal in all areas? L_Hilt 1/18/11 7:28 PM RT @azjd: @kylepace Think we underestimate the value students can bring to the school reform discussion. They need to play a part. #edchat web20classroom 1/18/11 7:28 PM @andycinek Yep. And focus on what we have control over that can make positive change now. #edchat joe_bower 1/18/11 7:28 PM Bad Teachers Cause Student Failure? Great Doctors Have Patients Who Die. http://bit.ly/hWOlQi #abed #abfuture #edchat whatedsaid 1/18/11 7:28 PM RT @mzayfert: If teachers dont evolve with society, then how can society evolve? #edchat kylepace 1/18/11 7:28 PM @whatedsaid It should be obvious but probably sad to find out how much we're NOT involving students. #edchat L_Hilt 1/18/11 7:28 PM RT @bhsprincipal: #edchat Respectful discourse needs to start with us! Always has and will be our role to model this. Needed now more than ever. #edchat AngelaMaiers 1/18/11 7:28 PM RT @BeckyFisher73: NCLB does not require recall level tests. The issue is reductionism by state DOEs, not accountability by feds. #edchat johnsonmaryj 1/18/11 7:28 PM The richness of #edchat often stems from disagreement. Can also be true of ed reform. Makes us "own" it. mzayfert 1/18/11 7:28 PM then how can society evolve? #edchat If teachers dont evolve with society,

justintarte 1/18/11 7:28 PM RT @andycinek: @web20classroom RIght, we could spend days talking about what's wrong, but lets shift to what we can plausibly do today #edchat

CoachB0066 1/18/11 7:28 PM Or, so we all should be! #edchat

@mbteach @bhsprincipal @shawdave

reasoningmind 1/18/11 7:28 PM @21stprincipal we should look at how ebooks can be adapted to meet student needs. #edchat rgallwitz 1/18/11 more. #edchat 7:29 PM @tomwhitby I would like to hear

TeachPaperless 1/18/11 7:29 PM Think outside the "system"; everyone innovative in every other profession has. #edchat lookforsun 1/18/11 7:29 PM @21stprincipal @2footgiraffe #edchat Following passion yes - essential skills too. djainslie 1/18/11 learn time #edchat MissLadyCaz 1/18/11 my classroom #edchat 7:29 PM 7:29 PM How about less seat time and more I'm going to start with my practise in

tim_yocum 1/18/11 7:29 PM RT @AngelaMaiers: We have control over far more than we give ourselves credit for- we have power that is not being used! #edchat whatedsaid 1/18/11 'reform' #edchat 7:29 PM Listen to kids on ' learning'... not on

AngelaMaiers 1/18/11 7:29 PM We have control over far more than we give ourselves credit for- we have power that is not being used! #edchat reasoningmind 1/18/11 7:29 PM parent involvement? It works. #edchat How have we not talked about

21stprincipal 1/18/11 7:29 PM @tkraz Yes! Take advantage of media instead of plastering on old media onto the new. #edchat brophycat 1/18/11 7:29 PM RT @lookforsun: @reasoningmind @engteachchick #edchat Depends who is running the PLC and focus- when teachers are respected they're able to do the best job. cybraryman1 1/18/11 7:29 PM I feel we don't listen to our students and don't involve parents in the learning process enough or follow what teachers want too #edchat becky7274 1/18/11 7:29 PM RT @bhsprincipal: Respectful discourse needs to start with us! Has and will be our role to model this. Needed now more than ever. #edchat

2footgiraffe 1/18/11 7:29 PM @andycinek i agree. If your not changing your own classroom it doesn't matter what the school or district is doing #edchat jeffliwag 1/18/11 7:29 PM RT @stumpteacher: Dont toss the baby out with bathwater. Evolve what doesnt work and keep what does. #edchat lookforsun 1/18/11 7:29 PM @reasoningmind @engteachchick #edchat Depends who is running the PLC and focus- when teachers are respected they're able to do the best job. djainslie 1/18/11 7:29 PM textbooks are just one resource- need to realize one size doesn't fit all is true for many things need to be flexible #edchat stumpteacher 1/18/11 7:29 PM @kylepace I agree... http://bit.ly/hWHhxO give students a voice and listen #edchat AngelaMaiers 1/18/11 7:29 PM RT @L_Hilt: RT @azjd we underestimate the value students can bring to the school reform discussion. They need to play a part. #edchat andycinek 1/18/11 7:29 PM If you expect to see a utopian vision of education in your life you are dreaming. We need to focus on what we have and thrive! #edchat rodaniel 1/18/11 7:29 PM @shelleypa Education would be a lot easier if it were... which is I think your point, #edchat whatedsaid 1/18/11 7:29 PM @kylepace The more we listen to kids and the more control they have over their learning, the better #edchat CoachB0066 1/18/11 7:30 PM RT @AngelaMaiers: We have control over far more than we give ourselves credit for- we have power that is not being used! #edchat AngelaMaiers 1/18/11 7:30 PM We have the power 2 talk, teach,expect, act,and believe different! We need 2 put energy into that! #edchat flavia_matias 1/18/11 7:30 PM Real collaborative work is an innovation 2 me. It's quite rewarding 2 work w/ teachers who generously share their ideas. #edchat andreamiller20 1/18/11 7:30 PM RT @kylepace: RT @whatedsaid: The more we listen to kids and the more control they have over their learning, the better #edchat

shelleypa 1/18/11 7:30 PM #edchat no matter paper text, digital text, electronic board - what is being done with tools? what's being discussed and created? davidwees 1/18/11 7:30 PM Innovation is happening in society all over the place at the most rapid rates in human history, except in some classrooms... #edchat aunthattie 1/18/11 7:30 PM Students are telling me they want to learn through playing http://bit.ly/gWuhHO #edchat teachernz 1/18/11 and slow today;-) 7:30 PM Sorry #edchat but I'm on my phone

reasoningmind 1/18/11 7:30 PM RT @azjd: @kylepace Think we underestimate the value students can bring to the school reform discussion. They need to play a part. #edchat kylepace 1/18/11 7:30 PM RT @AngelaMaiers: We have control over far more than we give ourselves credit for- we have power that is not being used! #edchat CoachB0066 1/18/11 7:30 PM @andycinek Agreed, a clear vision, focus and CONSISTENCY are key to implementing this change in schools #edchat briankotts 1/18/11 7:30 PM Too many grads, but China can't slake thirst for learning http://bit.ly/g2rkFg /via @globenadmail #highered #edchat tyuse 1/18/11 7:30 PM RT @AngelaMaiers: We need to let kids create and TRUST them to do so - http://bit.ly/g0ARIE #edchat LaurenBarber7 1/18/11 great conversations! 7:30 PM Following #edchat right now...

kylepace 1/18/11 7:30 PM RT @whatedsaid: The more we listen to kids and the more control they have over their learning, the better #edchat andycinek 1/18/11 7:30 PM @web20classroom Couldn't agree with you more. Well this is no fun all this agreement :) Great post by the way http://bit.ly/gUYSsY #edchat reasoningmind 1/18/11 7:31 PM Sounds like a good idea to me. RT @missladycaz: I'm going to start with my practise in my classroom #edchat whatedsaid 1/18/11 7:31 PM @TeacherInMe Teachers have to be learners first.. otherwise there's no hope :) #edchat rodaniel 1/18/11 7:31 PM @whatedsaid Yes, listen and provide them expectations and opportunities to speak, often and well often, #edchat

peterflom 1/18/11 7:31 PM case by case basis #edchat

@rodaniel I think it needs to be on a

2footgiraffe 1/18/11 7:31 PM @sd424score that can be a problem make sure to include #edchat in ur responses so all can see virtual_teach 1/18/11 7:31 PM RT @joe_bower: Bad Teachers Cause Student Failure? Great Doctors Have Patients Who Die. http://bit.ly/hWOlQi #abed #abfuture #edchat mbteach 1/18/11 7:31 PM @reasoningmind not sure that our parents are informed enough to understand the effects. Great question, though #edchat becky7274 1/18/11 7:31 PM @newfirewithin We're trying to get it to happen here. Keeping my fingers crossed #edchat mrsblanchetnet 1/18/11 7:31 PM @flavia_matias this type of collaboration is just as powerful in the hands of students I think this is a major piece of ed reform #edchat andycinek 1/18/11 7:31 PM There is no reason to harp on edreform and what could be when we have students in class NOW. Let's give those kids the best! #edchat doctorjeff 1/18/11 7:31 PM advocating what changes? #edchat @andycinek utopia aside, you're

rjwassink 1/18/11 7:31 PM @dobrien917 I certainly worded it wrong; meant I'd rather have an average student go into teaching than operating on my heart... #edchat TeacherInMe 1/18/11 7:31 PM time and more learn time #edchat RT @djainslie: How about less seat

rgallwitz 1/18/11 7:31 PM RT @lookforsun: @tomwhitby @rgallwitz #edchat Common principals would be a great edchat topic - what do we stand for at our core. web20classroom 1/18/11 7:31 PM RT @AngelaMaiers: We have control over far more than we give ourselves credit for- we have power that is not being used! #edchat CoachB0066 1/18/11 Consistency! #edchat 7:31 PM @AngelaMaiers Energy and

AngelaMaiers 1/18/11 7:31 PM Small things add up and make HUGE impacts to kids- a smile, a comment, an encouraging word- #kaizen #edchat

brophycat 1/18/11 7:31 PM needs to be encouraged!! #edchat whatedsaid 1/18/11 teacher at a time #edchat 7:31 PM

@flavia_matias that is something that @AngelaMaiers And we can do it..one

21stprincipal 1/18/11 7:31 PM @sd424score Of course, that's a pretty good indication the engagement is lost. #edchat TeacherInMe 1/18/11 7:31 PM @mzayfert But how do you "make" teachers evolve? Some teachers stick with their guns about how they teach... #edchat davidwees 1/18/11 7:31 PM We need to find ways to apply the open source model to education. What would this look like? #edchat Mr3Maker 1/18/11 7:31 PM RT @21stprincipal: Toss out the textbook companies, engage students with tech, real world tools and problems. #edchat mbteach 1/18/11 7:31 PM @CoachB0066 @bhsprincipal @shawdave I think teachers need to lead each other in BIG ways. Leading students is obvious ;) #edchat tomwhitby 1/18/11 7:31 PM @annebeninghof I believe it is a lack of management problem. Teachers do not grant tenure. #edchat lookforsun 1/18/11 7:31 PM @tomwhitby @rgallwitz #edchat Common principals would be a great edchat topic - what do we stand for at our core. newfirewithin 1/18/11 7:31 PM @EngTeachChick @becky7274 Good call on differentiated PD. My dist. is slowly moving that way & it's great. #edchat rodaniel 1/18/11 7:31 PM Have to admit moving very fast, trying to stay up and comment, not very good at it, thanks for your understanding #edchat msbarber1st2nd 1/18/11 7:32 PM #Edchat my principal's big push this yr is getting away from "my class" statements & moving towards more individualized instruc & attention 2footgiraffe 1/18/11 7:32 PM RT @AngelaMaiers: @lookforsun @21stprincipal @2footgiraffe - passion is not an extra touch; its a necessity & core value & habitude! #edchat

whatedsaid 1/18/11 7:32 PM Get more teachers involved here in #edchat. twitter etc.. learning from and with others andreamiller20 1/18/11 7:32 PM @tomwhitby Would you say mgt on the part of the administration? Not hiring the best of the best to start and not prov sufficient pd #edchat mrsblanchetnet 1/18/11 7:32 PM would love to see the removal of grades form the picture. Many students and parents value grades over learning #edchat rodaniel 1/18/11 7:32 PM @peterflom Isn't that part of the problem we are in now, if students don't learn some people say that means it's the teachers fault, #edchat newfirewithin 1/18/11 7:32 PM @johnsonmaryj It seems almost necessary at times, if not practically, then emotionally or conceptually. #edchat CoachB0066 1/18/11 7:32 PM @mbteach @bhsprincipal @shawdave Agreed, but difficult to give leadership roles when leadership was never expect of them in the past #edchat 2footgiraffe 1/18/11 7:32 PM I'm still trying to let go of control. Let students make the rules this year and they got pretty excited. pete_rodrigues 1/18/11 7:32 PM we must continue to include everyone in the conversation, despite roadblocks that they might put up #edchat cybraryman1 1/18/11 7:32 PM We should not forget "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." #edchat ParentingSPD 1/18/11 7:32 PM And more time for independent discovery making! And more recess! : ) RT @djainslie: How about less seat time and more learn time #edchat TheGilch 1/18/11 7:32 PM RT @flavia_matias: Real collaborative work is innovation 2 me. Its quite rewarding 2 work w/ teachers who generously share ideas. #edchat Wkingbg 1/18/11 7:32 PM RT @21stprincipal: "Get out your textbooks" the most dreaded words in the world by students today. #edchat nicoletomaselli 1/18/11 7:32 PM RT @mmarotta: join @willrich45 on Elluminate tonight 8pm http://bit.ly/dJKyiZ impact of Web 2.0 on teaching and learning #edchat #nhste

lookforsun 1/18/11 7:32 PM @dobrien917 @kylepace #edchat Metacognitive awareness develops - we should nurture this to help all students find their way. rjwassink 1/18/11 7:32 PM @dobrien917 but it really depends on what the student's passion is - they could be a better doc than teacher if thats what they want #edchat teachernz 1/18/11 7:32 PM @L_Hilt #edchat visits and contacts between different communities help identify commonalities and differences... web20classroom 1/18/11 7:32 PM Rather than focusing efforts on grades or tests, why not focus on things like developing leadership. Something we can change. #edchat mprcampbell 1/18/11 7:32 PM RT @davidwees: Fascinating read. Does assessment hinder learning? http://is.gd/YKDmif #edchat #cpchat mbteach 1/18/11 7:32 PM @reasoningmind plus, Republicans run the state now. I don't see them caring about education in Philly right now :( #edchat shelleypa 1/18/11 7:32 PM RT @flavia_matias: Real collaborative work is an innovation 2 me. It's quite rewarding 2 work w/ teachers who generously share their ideas. #edchat Mr_Johansson1/18/11 7:32 PM RT @andycinek: There is no reason to harp on edreform and what could be when we have students in class NOW. Let's give those kids the best! #edchat mathtech 1/18/11 7:32 PM RT @andycinek: @web20classroom Couldn't agree with you more. Well this is no fun all this agreement :) Great post by the way http://bit.ly/gUYSsY #edchat mzayfert 1/18/11 7:32 PM @lookforsun its easy to blame the system, when you are unwilling to change with it, education becomes stagnant and we all lose. #edchat tamurray 1/18/11 7:32 PM RT @AngelaMaiers: Small things add up and make HUGE impacts to kids- a smile, a comment, an encouraging word#kaizen #edchat isteconnects 1/18/11 7:32 PM Launch a reputational campaign. Our day doesn't end at 3, summer isn't totally off and we don't just play w/ kids all day #edchat elightkeeper 1/18/11 7:32 PM Content is a 20th century cobblestone path, not a 21st century destination. #edchat

AngelaMaiers 1/18/11 7:32 PM @lookforsun @21stprincipal @2footgiraffe - passion is not an extra touch; it is a necessity and core value and habitude! #edchat azjd 1/18/11 7:32 PM In spite of obstacles/challenges, we simply must get better at making learning meaningful to individual students. #edchat Mr_Johansson1/18/11 7:33 PM RT @andycinek: Guess what? the system will always have flaws. What are you doing today to instill the best learning practices in your students? #edchat bhsprincipal 1/18/11 7:33 PM @mbteach Good point. Leading students is what we signed up for, we didn't know the adults would need leadership too. #edchat lookforsun 1/18/11 7:33 PM @mbteach @CoachB0066 @bhsprincipal @shawdave #edchat When schools support teacher collaboration, everyone in the school benefits. reasoningmind 1/18/11 7:33 PM :( RT @mbteach: @reasoningmind plus, Republicans run the state now. I don't see them caring about education in Philly right now :( #edchat WackJacq 1/18/11 7:33 PM When the student is ready, the master (teacher) will appear~Buddhist proverb #edchat rodaniel 1/18/11 got to go! #edchat 7:33 PM thanks for the conversation folks! I've

azjd 1/18/11 7:33 PM RT @AngelaMaiers: We have control over far more than we give ourselves credit for- we have power that is not being used! #edchat peterflom 1/18/11 7:33 PM 7:33 PM @rodaniel Isn't it? #edchat #edchat Is anyone here looking

padgets 1/18/11 forward to retirement?

CoachB0066 1/18/11 7:33 PM @mbteach @bhsprincipal @shawdave We need to support, encourage and allow for leadership to develop #edchat Nunavut_Teacher 1/18/11 7:33 PM RT @joe_bower: Bad Teachers Cause Student Failure? Great Doctors Have Patients Who Die. http://bit.ly/hWOlQi #abed #abfuture #edchat ChrisVacek 1/18/11 7:33 PM And one student at a time. RT @whatedsaid: @AngelaMaiers And we can do it..one teacher at a time #edchat

reasoningmind 1/18/11 7:33 PM @mbteach then how can they make sure their child is being taught? but I agree, most parents aren't informed enough. #edchat EngTeachChick 1/18/11 7:33 PM If you teach the skills, they can apply them to everything, even silly state tests. #edchat andycinek 1/18/11 7:33 PM @doctorjeff Not advocating any changes, just giving our daily classrooms the best oppor. for autonomy,mastery,and purpose (DanPink) #edchat 21stprincipal 1/18/11 7:33 PM Teachers evolve or they become fossils, check out the dinosaurs! #edchat TeacherInMe 1/18/11 7:33 PM RT @AngelaMaiers We have the power 2 talk, teach,expect, act,and believe different! We need 2 put energy into that! #edchat johnsonmaryj 1/18/11 7:33 PM @andycinek Yes, there's no reason our classrooms & libraries cannot be a microcosm of reform. No waiting! #edchat L_Hilt 1/18/11 7:33 PM RT @whatedsaid: Listen to kids on ' learning'... not on 'reform' #edchat tkraz 1/18/11 7:33 PM It is clear that it will be very difficult to have a clear vision with so many ideas. How do we focus? #edchat davidwees 1/18/11 Interesting. #edchat 7:34 PM @althiell That's the many eyes theory.

whatedsaid 1/18/11 7:34 PM RT @tomwhitby: @andreamiller20 Being an educator requires ongoing training and support. We do not get to a point when we can stop.Lifelong Learning #edchat TeacherInMe 1/18/11 7:34 PM RT @cybraryman We should not forget "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." #edchat reasoningmind 1/18/11 7:34 PM Year-round school? Longer school days? I definitely support these when done properly. #edchat tomwhitby 1/18/11 7:34 PM @andreamiller20 Being an educator requires ongoing training and support. We do not get to a point when we can stop.Lifelong Learning #edchat rgallwitz 1/18/11 7:34 PM RT @21stprincipal: Teachers evolve or they become fossils, check out the dinosaurs! #edchat

EngTeachChick 1/18/11 7:34 PM read, not because someone tells me to #edchat

I teach texts kids will WANT to

cmeadvocate 1/18/11 7:34 PM RT @isteconnects: Increase base pay for teachers. It should be a competitive career choice for top students #edchat andycinek 1/18/11 7:34 PM failure is part of the game #edchat @becky7274 and come to know

Luke1946 1/18/11 7:34 PM And no matter what we do, 25% of our students will still be in the bottom quartile. (Sorry, couldn't resist) #edchat kylepace 1/18/11 7:34 PM RT @bhsprincipal: #edchat Respectful discourse needs to start with us! Always has and will be our role to model this. Needed now more than ever. #edchat althiell 1/18/11 7:34 PM @davidwees Open source by providing teachers more opportunity to see each other teach and kids to teach each other. #edchat L_Hilt 1/18/11 7:34 PM @teachernz: #edchat visits and contacts between different communities help identify commonalities & differences... important connections! becky7274 1/18/11 7:34 PM RT andycinek: There is no reason to harp on edreform and what could be when we have students in class NOW. #edchat whatedsaid 1/18/11 7:34 PM @tamurray they need to go! #edchat

lookforsun 1/18/11 7:34 PM @andycinek #edchat We can't forget the students in front of us, but we need to develop our vision as well. lookforsun 1/18/11 7:34 PM @andycinek #edchat We can't forget the students in front of us, but we need to develop our vision as well. pete_rodrigues 1/18/11 7:34 PM About making the convo accesible RT @whatedsaid Get more teachers involved here in #edchat. twitter learning from and with others #edchat pete_rodrigues 1/18/11 7:34 PM About making the convo accesible RT @whatedsaid Get more teachers involved here in #edchat. twitter learning from and with others #edchat tamurray 1/18/11 7:34 PM RT @web20classroom: Rather than focusing efforts on grades/tests, focus on things lk developing leadership. Something we cn change. #edchat

tamurray 1/18/11 7:34 PM RT @web20classroom: Rather than focusing efforts on grades/tests, focus on things lk developing leadership. Something we cn change. #edchat EngTeachChick 1/18/11 than ask for permission. #edchat 7:34 PM It's easier to beg forgiveness

BeckyFisher73 1/18/11 7:34 PM Do we have both the skill and the will to innovate in ed? What happens for teachers who want to teach the same year 20 times? #edchat tim_leister 1/18/11 7:34 PM #edchat Quote: "Change is inevitable, Growth is optional" continues to motivate me. marcelamomberg 1/18/11 7:34 PM RT @cybraryman1: We should not forget "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." #edchat ChrisVacek 1/18/11 7:34 PM RT @web20classroom: Rather than focusing efforts on grades or tests, why not focus on things like developing leadership. Something we can change. #edchat rodaniel 1/18/11 7:34 PM conversation, family needs me! #edchat @peterflom Thanks for the

peterflom 1/18/11 7:34 PM @rodaniel Of course, measuring learning is tricky - I know, my PhD is in psychometrics #edchat dobrien917 1/18/11 7:34 PM Involve parents in more than just volunteering and making copies. Invite them to be an active part of the learning community. #edchat 21stprincipal 1/18/11 7:34 PM Can't believe it, talking about getting rid of textbooks and I get spammed by company on renting textbooks! #edchat mssanderson_ITS 1/18/11 7:34 PM RT @web20classroom: Rather than focusing efforts on grades or tests, why not focus on things like developing leadership. Something we can change. #edchat 2footgiraffe 1/18/11 7:34 PM RT @cybraryman1: We should not forget "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." #edchat mrwejr 1/18/11 7:34 PM RT @thecleversheep: Do we assess blog posts or other thought-provoking articles by assigning a grade? Comments rule everywhere but the classroom. #edchat becky7274 1/18/11 7:35 PM My thoughts exactly! @EngTeachChick: It's easier to beg forgiveness than ask for permission. #edchat

gkpdnewyork 1/18/11 7:35 PM RT @web20classroom: Just because something is used in Edu differently from the way we want to doesn't make it bad. #edchat reasoningmind 1/18/11 7:35 PM @web20classroom we don't want the blind leading the blind. They need wisdom to lead properly. #edchat AngelaMaiers 1/18/11 7:35 PM RT @dobrien917: Involve parents in more than just volunteering. Invite them 2 b active part of the learning community. #edchat Mr_Johansson1/18/11 7:35 PM How about a quick poll in #edchat - RT if you actually teach day to day classes in K-12... tim_leister 1/18/11 the school week. Thanks. 7:35 PM #edchat is good motivation to begin

mzayfert 1/18/11 7:35 PM @TeacherInMe you cannot make teachers evolve, they have to want to. Start with hiring process & accountability with reason #edchat gkpdnewyork 1/18/11 7:35 PM RT @bhsprincipal: #edchat Respectful discourse needs to start with us! Always has and will be our role to model this. Needed now more than ever. #edchat derekspalla 1/18/11 7:35 PM RT @mikeroberts1973: It's our job to meet students where they are and inspire them to do more than they thought possible. Must make learning relevant #edchat tkraz 1/18/11 7:35 PM @cybraryman1: "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." hmm, not 21st century but still relevant! #edchat davidwees 1/18/11 7:35 PM Linus Torvalds said of open source "Many eyes make all bugs small." How can we apply this idea to education? #edchat carolgau 1/18/11 7:35 PM RT @cybraryman1: We should not forget "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." #edchat djgallagher 1/18/11 7:35 PM @whatedsaid we need leaders who will let them use these tools to learn #edchat B_A_Bookworm 1/18/11 7:35 PM RT @AngelaMaiers: Small things add up and make HUGE impacts to kids- a smile, a comment, an encouraging word- #kaizen #edchat

djainslie 1/18/11 7:35 PM another student :) #edchat

@WackJacq and that master may be

aaronmueller 1/18/11 7:35 PM RT @padgets: #edchat starts with you, one classroom one teacher, then two then a dept then a floor no matter what the content, will you start the dance? gkpdnewyork 1/18/11 7:35 PM RT @web20classroom: Rather than focusing efforts on grades or tests, why not focus on things like developing leadership. Something we can change. #edchat mikeroberts1973 1/18/11 7:35 PM It's our job to meet students where they are and inspire them to do more than they thought possible. Must make learning relevant #edchat AngelaMaiers 1/18/11 #edchat EngTeachChick #edchat 7:35 PM @WackJacq -Let's hope and pray so! I'm for year round school

1/18/11

7:35 PM

teachertheresa 1/18/11 7:36 PM #edchat to me more relationships need to be built: parents, community, other schools. No need for competition; need collaboration. teachernz 1/18/11 7:36 PM @L_Hilt #edchat and if not f2f there are plenty of tools to make it work online, local, national and global :-) EngTeachChick 1/18/11 7:36 PM If admin are evaluating me on technology, they should know technology. #edchat tomwhitby 1/18/11 7:36 PM should be maintained? #Edchat How much of what we do in education

djgallagher 1/18/11 7:36 PM we need to innovate how we deliver our curriculums to a more technology connected student #edchat whatedsaid 1/18/11 7:36 PM Help kids learn the way we do... flatten classroom walls, create global connections #edchat shelleypa 1/18/11 7:36 PM #edchat we need to model not knowing everything but being able to figure things out - go to resources, collaborate, and learn tim_yocum 1/18/11 7:36 PM Reform begins with us. The willingness to make changes and build relationships. Providing challenges and setting attainable goals... #edchat

mikeroberts1973 1/18/11 7:36 PM Knowledge + Application = Learning. It's really that simple. I think we make learning to complex sometimes. #edchat kylepace 1/18/11 7:36 PM RT @AngelaMaiers: RT @dobrien917: Involve parents in more than just volunteering. Invite them 2 b active part of the learning community. #edchat becky7274 1/18/11 7:36 PM It's so important to show my kids WHY we need the skills. Life is more than filling in bubbles on a stupid test. #edchat tomwhitby 1/18/11 7:36 PM should be dropped? #Edchat How much of what we do in education

Jpozoolano 1/18/11 7:36 PM RT @andycinek: Can we change the tone of reform and move towards innovating our best practices with what we have while developing dynamic learners #edchat newfirewithin 1/18/11 7:36 PM @carolgau That is such a positive thought and realistically in the reach of all of us. #edchat debbiefuco 1/18/11 7:36 PM RT @mikeroberts1973: to meet students where they are & inspire them to do more than they thought possible. Make learning relevant #edchat AngelaMaiers 1/18/11 7:36 PM Edchat should be a weekly requirement for all! Imagine r PLC time then! #edchat tamurray 1/18/11 7:36 PM @Luke1946 but if we get back to a "normal" distribution, it could be a good thing - everyone can't be best at everything #edchat mbteach 1/18/11 7:36 PM @reasoningmind what I fear is that parents will be 'informed' by those who have an agenda & not get the whole story #edchat andreamiller20 1/18/11 7:36 PM @tomwhitby I absolutely agree! What is the management problem to which you were referring? #edchat tkraz 1/18/11 7:36 PM RT @reasoningmind: Year-round school? Longer school days? <- only if ed changes. Otherwise, longer time doing the same thing!!!! #edchat gkpdnewyork 1/18/11 7:36 PM RT @web20classroom: I do believe one thing that should go is that everything is bad and we should start over. I think things are used and abused. #edchat

shelleypa 1/18/11 7:36 PM RT @mikeroberts1973: It's our job to meet students where they are and inspire them to do more than they thought possible. Must make learning relevant #edchat mathtech 1/18/11 7:36 PM #edchat - Reform list: appropriate technology, enhanced web, collaborative teaching, students share in learning, patience, support, empathy eltbakery 1/18/11 7:36 PM Or focus on students' development and progress assessment. First of all it's important to make sure they know the criteria we set. #edchat TheGilch 1/18/11 7:36 PM a few examples of student choice projects from my blog. http://randomandawkwardramblings.blogspot.com/ EngTeachChick 1/18/11 high school English #edchat 7:36 PM RT @mr_johansson: I teach

andycinek 1/18/11 7:36 PM @lookforsun Agreed. There is no point fueling the rhetoric when we have students hungry to learn #edchat lookforsun 1/18/11 7:36 PM @mzayfert #edchat - It's easy to blame some systems and other systems are to be admired - I agree that it's a balance approach. reasoningmind 1/18/11 7:36 PM RT @teacherinme: RT @cybraryman We should not forget "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." #edchat web20classroom 1/18/11 7:36 PM Discourse is always healthy. #edchat @Tekkietalk @andycinek

steelepierce 1/18/11 7:37 PM RT @kenroyal: Listen to Planning School and District Tech http://tinyurl.com/4o8q4q4 A tech tale of 2 districts. #oetc11 #edtech #edchat cybraryman1 1/18/11 7:37 PM http://bit.ly/diXT0v #twitacad #edchat My Ed Reform page:

lori_nelson 1/18/11 7:37 PM RT @tomwhitby: I oppose the idea of a Spandex Curriculum. If we must add stuff, in the interest of time and focus, we should drop stuff as well.#Edchat beachcat11 1/18/11 7:37 PM RT @cybraryman1: RT @shelleypa: #edchat we need to develop parent prof dev to help them understand new models - hybrid options, PBL differentiation 21stprincipal 1/18/11 7:37 PM @ndprimeau Our school is getting ready to embark on that. We get to reinvent high school. #edchat

rgallwitz 1/18/11 7:37 PM Watch the video I forget, blog About the video I remember, create and edit the video and I learn. #edchat peterflom 1/18/11 7:37 PM What would happen to education if we threw out every invention made after, say, 1950? #edchat mbteach 1/18/11 7:37 PM @CoachB0066 @bhsprincipal @shawdave that's the whole faith in teachers thing :) #edchat teachertheresa 1/18/11 7:37 PM RT @tomwhitby: @andreamiller20 Being an educator requires ongoing training and support. We do not get to a point when we can stop.Lifelong Learning #edchat TeachPaperless 1/18/11 7:37 PM I think less time in schools. RT @reasoningmind: Year-round school? Longer school days? I def support these when done properly. #edchat stumpteacher 1/18/11 7:37 PM must listen to the students... #edchat @cybraryman1 http://bit.ly/hWHhxO

dobrien917 1/18/11 7:37 PM We need to model lifelong learning. RT @21stprincipal: Teachers evolve or they become fossils, check out the dinosaurs! #edchat TeacherInMe 1/18/11 7:37 PM longer school days... YES! #edchat tomwhitby 1/18/11 7:37 PM should be changed? #Edchat @reasoningmind Year-round school, How much of what we do in education

reasoningmind 1/18/11 7:37 PM seeing that here in TX RT @mbteach what I fear is parents will be 'informed' by those who have an agenda & not get the whole story #edchat jonbergmann 1/18/11 7:37 PM RT @djgallagher: we need to innovate how we deliver our curriculums to a more technology connected student #edchat msbarber1st2nd 1/18/11 7:37 PM RT @Mr_Johansson: How about a quick poll in #edchat - RT if you actually teach day to day classes in K-12... L_Hilt 1/18/11 7:37 PM First #edchat on the iPad. #speedfail RT @whatedsaid: Listen to kids on '

AsherJac 1/18/11 7:37 PM learning'... not on 'reform' #edchat

whatedsaid 1/18/11 7:37 PM RT @newfirewithin: RT @carolgau: #edchat I think you start one teacher changing at a time, not easy but I see small signs that some change is on the horizon. GiftedHF 1/18/11 7:37 PM Solitude, Leadership and Excellent Sheep #edchat #gtchat #homeschool #gifted http://fb.me/SZsZKIKd BeckyFisher73 1/18/11 7:37 PM @davidwees Highly functional PLCs can serve as "many eyes" helping each other ensure all kids learn w/o fail #edchat TheGilch 1/18/11 7:37 PM RT @Mr_Johansson: How about a quick poll in #edchat - RT if you actually teach day to day classes in K-12... #edchat newfirewithin 1/18/11 7:37 PM RT @carolgau: #edchat I think you start one teacher changing at a time, not easy but I see small signs that some change is on the horizon. mrsblanchetnet 1/18/11 7:37 PM Me too. RT @becky7274: My thoughts exactly! @EngTeachChick: It's easier to beg forgiveness than ask for permission. #edchat pete_rodrigues 1/18/11 7:37 PM doesn't directly benefit kids #edchat @tomwhitby anything that

azjd 1/18/11 7:37 PM Share! RT @davidwees: Linus Torvalds said of open source "Many eyes make all bugs small." How can we apply this idea to education? #edchat AngelaMaiers 1/18/11 7:38 PM Do teachers model creativity, problem solving, imagination, curiosity EVERYday for kids 2 emmulate? #edchat kylepace 1/18/11 7:38 PM RT @AngelaMaiers: We keep talking about the skills kids need- what r the skills we need to b modeling to ensure they get exposure? #edchat Mr_Johansson1/18/11 7:38 PM Tired of constant talk about Ed reform - working my tail off in the classroom to change things for the better. #justsayin #edchat isteconnects 1/18/11 7:38 PM RT @reasoningmind: RT @teacherinme: RT @cybraryman We should not forget "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." #edchat TeacherInMe 1/18/11 7:38 PM RT @AngelaMaiers Edchat should be a weekly requirement for all! Imagine r PLC time then! #edchat <-- :)

mbteach 1/18/11 7:38 PM @tomwhitby tough to say. So much has been newly started without much chance to see the effects. More testing, tho, is ridiculous #edchat javierjileta 1/18/11 7:38 PM RT @pete_rodrigues: Don't be afraid keep stuff that works even if it doesn't seem like "innovation" #edchat bryanjack 1/18/11 7:38 PM Conceptualize, imagine & dream. RT @TeachPaperless: Think outside the "system"; everyone innovative in every other profession has. #edchat WackJacq 1/18/11 community.... #edchat 7:38 PM Real change begins in the

Nunavut_Teacher 1/18/11 7:38 PM @tomwhitby I don't like the Hiearchy of subjects. That should be dropped. #edchat andycinek 1/18/11 7:38 PM I think #edchat can come to a consensus that reform needs 2 happen, but there is no point in debating when we have students tomorrow EngTeachChick 1/18/11 7:38 PM If we are to be life long learners...why do people get stuck in a certain decade? #edchat tomwhitby 1/18/11 7:38 PM @andreamiller20 This is a post I did on that question. Tenure's Tenure. http://bit.ly/aBFnFm #edchat pete_rodrigues 1/18/11 7:38 PM Don't be afraid keep stuff that works even if it doesn't seem like "innovation" #edchat cybraryman1 1/18/11 7:38 PM RT @AngelaMaiers: We keep talking about the skills kids need- what r the skills we need to b modeling to ensure they get exposure? #edchat ljhardin 1/18/11 7:38 PM RT @EngTeachChick: If admin are evaluating me on technology, they should know technology. #edchat reasoningmind 1/18/11 7:38 PM @teachpaperless more time in school, perhaps less on schoolwork? Holistic approach to education is what I mean. #edchat mrsblanchetnet 1/18/11 7:38 PM I think this is the direction we're headed in with more and more virtual schools RT @TeachPaperless: I think less time in schools. #edchat andreamiller20 1/18/11 7:38 PM @tomwhitby maintained? I don't think anything should just be maintained - maybe what should we continue to focus on improving #edchat

AngelaMaiers 1/18/11 7:38 PM We keep talking about the skills kids need- what r the skills we need to b modeling to ensure they get exposure? #edchat web20classroom 1/18/11 7:38 PM Education should be ever evolving. #edchat RT @mssanderson_ITS:

padgets 1/18/11 7:38 PM RT @cybraryman1: My Ed Reform page: http://bit.ly/diXT0v #twitacad #edchat mssanderson_ITS evolving. #edchat 1/18/11 7:38 PM Education should be ever

davidwees 1/18/11 7:38 PM In terms of our total history of education, grades are a "recent" innovation and should be dropped. See http://is.gd/sWRXU8 #edchat bhsprincipal 1/18/11 7:38 PM RT @cybraryman1: My Ed Reform page: http://bit.ly/diXT0v #twitacad #edchat padgets 1/18/11 7:38 PM #edchat Do you personally call parents and invite them or do you rely on the website, admin or school newsletter? parents are the key tim_yocum 1/18/11 7:38 PM ...that all stakeholders understand why we do what we do. Creating lifelong learners. #edchat andycinek 1/18/11 7:39 PM Make your classrooms purposeful for students and engaging to learn beyond the desk and you are winning against tardy edreform #edchat tomwhitby 1/18/11 7:39 PM grouping by (Age) Grades. #Edchat We should also consider dropping

Nunavut_Teacher 1/18/11 7:39 PM RT @cybraryman1: I tried to teach my students survival skills - how to shop, budget, read maps, fill out forms etc. Need to do that more #edchat shelleypa 1/18/11 7:39 PM RT @AngelaMaiers: Do teachers model creativity, problem solving, imagination, curiosity EVERYday for kids 2 emmulate? #edchat rjwassink 1/18/11 7:39 PM Our visions of the future are based on the technologies of today. So what does tomorrow look like? #edchat Mr_Johansson1/18/11 7:39 PM RT @andycinek: I think #edchat can come to a consensus that reform needs 2 happen, but there is no point in debating when we have students tomorrow

cybraryman1 1/18/11 7:39 PM I tried to teach my students survival skills - how to shop, budget, read maps, fill out forms etc. Need to do that more #edchat CoachB0066 1/18/11 Improvement!!! #edchat 7:39 PM @AngelaMaiers Continuous Self@WackJacq This Dr. Tae?

davidwees 1/18/11 7:39 PM http://is.gd/cItKv8 #edchat

millerblair 1/18/11 7:39 PM @davidwees Involve students in assessing each other-open source software creators are not limited in who or what they can comment on #edchat elonahartjes 1/18/11 7:39 PM @padgets I am looking forward to retirement but not because I'm tired of teaching #edchat smoky_stu 1/18/11 7:39 PM Read The smoky_stu Daily today's top stories contributed by @nswincidents http://t.co/3WiA1ln #edtech #edutech #edchat #yam #teachers web20classroom 1/18/11 7:39 PM @AngelaMaiers I think so some extent yes. All of those things are important to model each day. #edchat djainslie 1/18/11 7:39 PM RT @ljhardin@EngTeachChick: If admin are evaluating me on technology, they should know technology. <yes all should model and use #edchat debbiefuco 1/18/11 7:39 PM RT @AngelaMaiers: Do teachers model creativity, problem solving, imagination, curiosity EVERYday for kids 2 emmulate? #edchat lookforsun 1/18/11 7:39 PM @TeacherInMe @reasoningmind #edchat Year round learning - not year round schooling. How about summer adventures for all students - exciting kylepace 1/18/11 7:39 PM RT @AngelaMaiers: Do teachers model creativity, problem solving, imagination, curiosity EVERYday for kids 2 emmulate? #edchat Luke1946 1/18/11 7:39 PM RT @padgets: #edchat Is anyone here looking forward to retirement? Already there, but this is too much fun! whatedsaid 1/18/11 7:39 PM and thinking...RT @AngelaMaiers: Do teachers model creativity, problem solving, imagination, curiosity EVERYday for kids 2 emmulate? #edchat jonbergmann 1/18/11 7:39 PM So see reform in action. Watch video on the flipped classroom http://youtu.be/2H4RkudFzlc #edchat

Tekkietalk 1/18/11 7:39 PM RT @kylepace: RT @AngelaMaiers: We have control over far more than we give ourselves credit for- we have power that is not being used! #edchat EngTeachChick 1/18/11 7:39 PM #edchat I'd like to see Geometry come after Algebra 2, not between Alg 1 and Alg 2 tkraz 1/18/11 7:39 PM It's the same for teachers and students, if you have to force them to do something, are you going about it the right way? #edchat reasoningmind 1/18/11 7:39 PM Nothing should ever be "maintained." RT @tomwhitby: How much of what we do in education should be maintained? #Edchat azjd 1/18/11 7:39 PM @tomwhitby I think we have to be open to some dramatic changes. Some of our practices just don't make sense anymore. #edchat stumpteacher 1/18/11 7:39 PM Don't wait for reform to come from front office or capitol hill, reform your classroom now and help the students you have right now. #edchat TeachPaperless 1/18/11 7:39 PM & how we teach teachers. RT @djgallagher: we need to innovate how we deliver our curriculums to a more technology connected student #edchat djgallagher 1/18/11 7:40 PM @MoodleMcKean Agreed!! School leaders are missing this point totally #edchat carolgau 1/18/11 7:40 PM @AngelaMaiers #edchat I think important skills we need to teach are problem solving and critical thinking these are lasting skills mbteach 1/18/11 7:40 PM @tomwhitby I agree. So sad to see a kid who just isn't 'ready' fail a grade #edchat willrich45 1/18/11 7:40 PM @bhsprincipal Don't worry Patrick...I won't mention the Jets VICTORY over the Pats. ;0) #edchat mkang11 1/18/11 7:40 PM Is there a group/hashtag that math educators can follow? #edchat #jhusmed lookforsun 1/18/11 7:40 PM @bryanjack @TeachPaperless #edchat - yes, teach for life - innovation is exciting as long it's rooted in what's best for students.

pete_rodrigues 1/18/11 7:40 PM edreform for me is about changing minds in my building away from the stuff that doesnt benefit kids. anything but simple. #edchat TeacherInMe 1/18/11 7:40 PM RT @web20classroom @AngelaMaiers I think so some extent yes. All of those things are important to model each day. #edchat elonahartjes 1/18/11 7:40 PM @AngelaMaiers I think kids will always need people skills no matter what century we are in. #edchat dobrien917 1/18/11 7:40 PM Love that! RT @tim_leister: #edchat Quote: "Change is inevitable, Growth is optional" continues to motivate me. Nunavut_Teacher 1/18/11 7:40 PM RT @drtimony: @andycinek I agree. We need to set up a site of people posting what they are actually doing to reform their rooms, buildings, etc #edchat MissLadyCaz 1/18/11 7:40 PM RT @stumpteacher: Don't wait for reform to come from front office or capitol hill, reform your classroom now and help the students you have right now. #edchat davidwees 1/18/11 7:40 PM RT @tomwhitby: We should also consider dropping grouping by (Age) Grades. #Edchat djainslie 1/18/11 7:40 PM RT @AngelaMaiers: Do teachers model creativity, problem solving, imagination, curiosity EVERYday for kids 2 emulate?< very imp #edchat padgets 1/18/11 7:40 PM ever think they are non-replaceable #edchat I do not think teachers should

althiell 1/18/11 7:40 PM @tomwhitby. Susan Jacoby on pillars of intellectual life: reading, writing, extended conversation. Maintain in some form. #edchat whatedsaid 1/18/11 7:40 PM RT @EngTeachChick: Students need a bigger audience for their work than just teachers, make it count to be seen by the community #edchat djgallagher 1/18/11 7:40 PM we need more school based community education programs to involve parents in education #edchat ljhardin 1/18/11 7:40 PM @peterflom I'm afraid that many (certainly not all) classrooms would look pretty much the same as pre-1950 :( #edchat

reasoningmind 1/18/11 7:40 PM RT @lookforsun @TeacherInMe #edchat Year round learning - not year round schooling. How about summer adventures for all students - exciting bruno_cesar82 1/18/11 7:40 PM #edchat Changes must be implemented by a broad-based school curriculum. bhsprincipal 1/18/11 7:40 PM Taking a break before listening to @willrich45 on Elluminate at 8 p.m. http://bit.ly/dJKyiZ #edchat Thanks everyone! mssanderson_ITS 1/18/11 7:40 PM RT @whatedsaid: and thinking...RT @AngelaMaiers: Do teachers model creativity, problem solving, imagination, curiosity EVERYday for kids 2 emmulate? #edchat EngTeachChick 1/18/11 7:40 PM Students need a bigger audience for their work than just teachers, make it count to be seen by the community #edchat AngelaMaiers 1/18/11 7:40 PM The life of a true digital learner is crazy, messy, overwhelming, hard, unpredictable...does not fit in 3ring bindermust LIVE it #edchat teachwatts 1/18/11 7:40 PM Whatever happened to mastery learning when we discuss assessment? Perhaps reform should begin w/a more holistic approach 2 learning #edchat drtimony 1/18/11 7:40 PM @andycinek I agree. We need to set up a site of people posting what they are actually doing to reform their rooms, buildings, etc #edchat lori_nelson 1/18/11 halls. #edchat 7:41 PM We should drop traditional study

reasoningmind 1/18/11 7:41 PM Did anyone see the #edweek article today about #detroit with the regrouping of students? Thoughts? #edchat drtimony 1/18/11 7:41 PM EdReform requirement is the translation of success into understandable parallels to those who don't adopt ideas of change #edchat rjwassink 1/18/11 7:41 PM RT @AngelaMaiers: The life of true digital learner is crazy, messy, overwhelming, hard, unpredictable...does not fit in 3ring binder #edchat rgallwitz 1/18/11 7:41 PM learner comment! #edchat @AngelaMaiers loved your true digital

ChrisVacek 1/18/11 7:41 PM #edchat Parents believe their job is to "raise" their kids & that teachers should "teach" their kids. This divide must disappear for change. TeachPaperless 1/18/11 7:41 PM RT @AngelaMaiers: The life of true digital learner is crazy, messy, overwhelming, hard, unpredictable...does not fit in 3ring binder #edchat andycinek 1/18/11 7:41 PM @DrTimony Exactly, we need to take a grassroots approach while our GOV decides to vacation and blabber about edreform #edchat doctorjeff 1/18/11 7:41 PM RT @carolgau: @AngelaMaiers #edchat I think important skills we need to teach are problem solving and critical thinking - these are lasting skills padgets 1/18/11 7:41 PM #edchat been teaching 17 years and having the teaching time of my life!! how many of us can say that? If you can then you will survive :) shelleypa 1/18/11 7:41 PM @tomwhitby #edchat I agree. More flexible groups are needed. Allow students to flow through different groups based on new criteria TeacherInMe 1/18/11 7:41 PM Bringing in older students to help/interact with younger should be done more often. #edchat mrsblanchetnet 1/18/11 7:41 PM RT @DrTimony: @andycinek I agree. need 2 set up a site of ppl posting wht they R actually doing 2 reform their rooms, bldgs, etc #edchat tim_yocum 1/18/11 7:41 PM @tomwhitby Grouping by age @SirKenRobinson has some very strong thoughts about that. He agrees with you. #Edchat AngelaMaiers 1/18/11 7:41 PM @Nunavut_Teacher @drtimony @andycinek - and then use social media to spread the word like crazy! Exponential Excellence! #edchat peterflom 1/18/11 7:41 PM @ljhardin Why is that bad? #edchat

whatedsaid 1/18/11 7:41 PM RT @pete_rodrigues: edreform is about changing minds in my building away from the stuff that doesnt benefit kids. . #edchat TeachPaperless 1/18/11 7:41 PM RT @lookforsun: @bryanjack #edchat - yes, teach for life - innovation is exciting as long it's rooted in what's best for students.

jonbergmann 1/18/11 7:41 PM @teachwatts we have revitalized mastery learning via flipped-mastery See vid http://youtu.be/nEfojG9ckYA #edchat 2footgiraffe 1/18/11 7:41 PM @mkang11 #mathchat #edchat

eltbakery 1/18/11 7:41 PM @AngelaMaiers Yes, but not EVERYday, unfortunately many schools still "stick" to a book-based syllabus. #edchat mathtech 1/18/11 7:41 PM RT @djainslie: RT @AngelaMaiers: Do teachers model creativity, problem solving, imagination, curiosity EVERYday for kids 2 emulate?< very imp #edchat profespringer 1/18/11 7:41 PM Do u share w/ students things that you try 2 learn about that are outside your subject matter? Model curiosity/exploration for fun? #edchat mssanderson_ITS #edchat 1/18/11 7:41 PM Kids learn by what they see.

johnsonmaryj 1/18/11 7:41 PM RT @AngelaMaiers: The life of true digital learner is crazy, messy, overwhelming, hard, unpredictable...does not fit in 3ring binder #edchat doctorjeff 1/18/11 7:42 PM RT @tomwhitby: We need teachers to view themselves as mentors rather than keepers and distributors of content. #Edchat math2go 1/18/11 7:42 PM RT @tomwhitby: We need teachers to view themselves as mentors rather than keepers and distributors of content. #Edchat <agree! reasoningmind 1/18/11 7:42 PM RT @nunavut_teacher: One of my favorite quotes: "The biggest obstacle to school change is our memories." Allen Glenn #edchat mssanderson_ITS 1/18/11 7:42 PM RT @tomwhitby: We need teachers to view themselves as mentors rather than keepers and distributors of content. #Edchat mrsblanchetnet 1/18/11 7:42 PM RT @AngelaMaiers: The life of true digital learner is crazy, messy, overwhelming, hard, unpredictable...does not fit in 3ring binder #edchat jonbergmann 1/18/11 7:42 PM RT @tomwhitby: We need teachers to view themselves as mentors rather than keepers and distributors of content. #Edchat

flavia_matias 1/18/11 7:42 PM @kylepace @whatedsaid That's true! But that's a process we've really gotta learn 2 go through. #edchat WackJacq 1/18/11 7:42 PM Today I announced I was not grading on averages anymore, but taking their best score a la Dr. Douglas Reeves "toxic grades". #edchat EngTeachChick 1/18/11 7:42 PM @lori_nelson We don't even have study halls...I'd love to have time for kids to work at school and get extra tutoring help #edchat mycolleges 1/18/11 7:42 PM RT @21stprincipal: Get rid of "We've always done it that way" thinking annd reasoning. #edchat Melissa_Spencer 1/18/11 7:42 PM RT @21stprincipal: Problembased learning instead of inauthentic learning in discrete subjects. #edchat newfirewithin but true. #edchat 1/18/11 7:42 PM @aunthattie Me as well. So sad,

tkraz 1/18/11 7:42 PM @AngelaMaiers but that statement describes many of my students' 3-ring binders. :) #edchat TeacherInMe 1/18/11 7:42 PM of year for students to learn! #edchat @lookforsun Summer is a great time

teacherbytes 1/18/11 7:42 PM In a meeting it was brought up if the Tech Specialist was sharing what students were learning in Computer Tech. #edchat elonahartjes 1/18/11 7:42 PM RT @Nunavut_Teacher: One of my favorite quotes: "The biggest obstacle to school change is our memories." Allen Glenn #edchat CoachB0066 1/18/11 7:42 PM RT @tomwhitby: We need teachers to view themselves as mentors rather than keepers and distributors of content. #Edchat cybraryman1 1/18/11 7:42 PM RT @tomwhitby: We need teachers to view themselves as mentors rather than keepers and distributors of content. #Edchat padgets 1/18/11 7:42 PM @lori_nelson #edchat we dropped study halls bets thing we ever did in favor of guided study ljhardin 1/18/11 7:42 PM RT @tomwhitby: We should also consider dropping grouping by (Age) Grades. #Edchat

tomwhitby 1/18/11 7:42 PM We need teachers to view themselves as mentors rather than keepers and distributors of content. #Edchat drtimony 1/18/11 away. Wanna? #edchat 7:42 PM @andycinek I'll set that site up right

rgallwitz 1/18/11 7:42 PM RT @AngelaMaiers: The life of a true digital learner is crazy, messy, overwhelming, hard, unpredictable...does not fit in 3ring binder- must LIVE it #edchat 21stprincipal 1/18/11 7:42 PM way" thinking annd reasoning. #edchat Get rid of "We've always done it that

Nunavut_Teacher 1/18/11 7:42 PM One of my favorite quotes: "The biggest obstacle to school change is our memories." Allen Glenn #edchat djgallagher 1/18/11 7:42 PM @peterflom They might bee, but going to schools that does not allow any technology is boring them to death #edchat djgallagher 1/18/11 7:43 PM We need teacher and students to be partners in the learning process feedback loop design #edchat ohboymama 1/18/11 7:43 PM YES!!!!RT @math2go RT @tomwhitby: We need teachers to view themselves as mentors rather than keepers and distributors of content. #Edchat andycinek 1/18/11 7:43 PM RT @drtimony: EdReform requirement is the translation of success into understandable parallels to those who don't adopt ideas of change #edchat EngTeachChick 1/18/11 7:43 PM or ability level, then how do you make classes? #edchat If not grouping by age

L_Hilt 1/18/11 7:43 PM RT @bhsprincipal: Taking a break before listening to @willrich45 on Elluminate at 8 p.m. http://bit.ly/dJKyiZ #edchat Thanks everyone! johnsonmaryj 1/18/11 #edchat 7:43 PM @WackJacq What was the reaction?

reasoningmind 1/18/11 7:43 PM @wackjacq how do you think "best score" grading will change their attitudes? #edchat Nunavut_Teacher 1/18/11 7:43 PM @tomwhitby Exactly. With Google we are not the gatekeepers of information anymore. Because of google change is needed. #edchat

andreamiller20 1/18/11 7:43 PM @tomwhitby We need teachers to view themselves as mentors rather than keepers and distributors of content. #Edchat AND administrators atomic_kathy 1/18/11 7:43 PM When learning is done well, the technology becomes transparent http://t.co/oKrmwK3 #edchat davidwees 1/18/11 7:43 PM @WackJacq I'd change best to "most telling" so students won't stop working when they get a score they like. #edchat pete_rodrigues 1/18/11 7:43 PM @tomwhitby teachers don't have the capacity to be "keepers" anymore - info is out there with or without them #edchat TeacherInMe 1/18/11 7:43 PM RT @mzayfert you cannot make teachers evolve, they have to want to. Start with hiring process & accountability with reason #edchat -- YES TheTeacherGeek 1/18/11 7:43 PM RT @isteconnects: Launch a reputational campaign. Our day doesn't end at 3, summer isn't totally off and we don't just play w/ kids all day #edchat mathtech 1/18/11 7:43 PM RT @Nunavut_Teacher: One of my favorite quotes: "The biggest obstacle to school change is our memories." Allen Glenn #edchat rgallwitz 1/18/11 7:43 PM RT @tomwhitby: We need teachers to view themselves as mentors rather than keepers and distributors of content. #Edchat chriszuccaro 1/18/11 7:43 PM @reasoningmind do you have a link to that? I would love to read that article.#edchat lookforsun 1/18/11 7:43 PM @djgallagher @peterflom #edchat The tech is amazing - opening doors all over the place for learners. djainslie 1/18/11 7:43 PM RT @tomwhitby: We need teachers to view themselves as mentors rather than keepers and distributors of content. <agreed #edchat AngelaMaiers 1/18/11 7:43 PM @drtimony @andycinek - I'll be the mouth piece and share the word! #edchat 21stprincipal 1/18/11 7:43 PM @QueensTeacher1 Sure but not as a crutch. Never known any of my students to get excited about reading a literature textbook. #edchat

ccpryor 1/18/11 7:43 PM RT @AngelaMaiers: RT @dobrien917: Involve parents in more than just volunteering. Invite them 2 b active part of the learning community. #edchat mzayfert 1/18/11 7:44 PM @mr_johansson you are one of the few, so many teachers recycling lesson plans from 1980's #edchat doctorjeff 1/18/11 7:44 PM I think there are things that need to be done reflective of the forest, and others reflective of individual trees. #edchat WackJacq 1/18/11 7:44 PM Positive from the kids. I think admin believes I've really lost my mind though... #edchat TeachPaperless 1/18/11 7:44 PM Tourguides. RT @cybraryman1: RT @tomwhitby: We need teachers to view themselves as mentors rather than keepers & distrib of content. #Edchat BeckyFisher73 1/18/11 7:44 PM @AngelaMaiers What % of our teachers and students do you think are "true digital learners"? #edchat freifamily 1/18/11 7:44 PM RT @djainslie: RT @tomwhitby: We need teachers to view themselves as mentors rather than keepers and distributors of content. <agreed #edchat lori_nelson 1/18/11 7:44 PM We should add online options not just for classes we don't offer f2f, b/c some stdts might learn better online or with a hybrid. #edchat davidwees 1/18/11 7:44 PM @EngTeachChick You form kids into mixed age & ability teams and focus on real life problem solving instead of content. #edchat ljhardin 1/18/11 7:44 PM @peterflom Bad because tech & other inventions can be used to expand resources available to students giving learning more depth. #edchat jonbergmann 1/18/11 7:44 PM @math2go The flipped class leads to teachers who are mentors and not diseminators of knowledge #edchat web20classroom 1/18/11 7:44 PM will develop those qualities in others. #edchat @tomwhitby And teachers who

Luke1946 1/18/11 7:44 PM RT @AngelaMaiers: We keep talking about the skills kids need- what r the skills we need to b modeling to ensure they get exposure? #edchat EngTeachChick 1/18/11 7:44 PM #edchat Learning contracts? Helpful in developing a sort of ownership for students

althiell 1/18/11 7:44 PM @shelleypa @tomwhitby Developmental grouping as separate from ability grouping. Drop grade level designation. #edchat whatedsaid 1/18/11 7:44 PM all of this out of #edchat into schools? The biggest question is how to move

ChrisVacek 1/18/11 7:44 PM #edchat until it becomes clear that teachers and parents must behave outcomes into being the same way with their kids, change will not come. bbeck19 1/18/11 7:44 PM Yes! I'd give away my tenure in a heartbeat 4 reform. RT @annebeninghof #edchat Does anyone think tenure should be reformed? reasoningmind 1/18/11 7:44 PM @chriszuccaro http://ow.ly/3G9QZ #edweek "Teacher-Led School Innovates With Student Regrouping" #edchat enjoy! elightkeeper 1/18/11 7:44 PM @DrTimony @andycinek Go for it! One action is worth a thousand words. #edchat 21stprincipal 1/18/11 7:44 PM grouping students by interest? @ohboymama #Edchat What about

2footgiraffe 1/18/11 7:44 PM RT @WackJacq: 2day I announced I was not grading on averages anymore but tkng theirbest score a la Dr. Douglas Reeves "toxic grades" #edchat L_Hilt 1/18/11 7:44 PM RT @dobrien917: Love that! RT @tim_leister: #edchat Quote: "Change is inevitable, Growth is optional" continues to motivate me. bryanjack 1/18/11 7:44 PM Principal @djmath visited #Talons classroom this PM to brainstorm verbs associated w/ 21st century school http://twitpic.com/3r9tg1 #edchat CoachGinsburg 1/18/11 7:44 PM Most important "skill" students need: resourcefulness. We need to model it & set limits on how much we do for them. #edchat aynsavoy 1/18/11 7:44 PM RT @reasoningmind: RT @nunavut_teacher: One of my favorite quotes: "The biggest obstacle to school change is our memories." Allen Glenn #edchat web20classroom 1/18/11 7:44 PM RT @tomwhitby: We need teachers to view themselves as mentors rather than keepers and distributors of content. #Edchat

McGough3R 1/18/11 7:44 PM @isteconnects I agree with you but I'm an intelligent optimist as well. Go PbL! #edchat #ecosys mramidon 1/18/11 7:44 PM RT @TeachPaperless: RT @AngelaMaiers: The life of true digital learner is crazy, messy, overwhelming, hard, unpredictable...does not fit in 3ring binder #edchat lookforsun 1/18/11 7:44 PM Teachers as mentors and facilitators. @math2go @tomwhitby #edchat

OKCAmanda 1/18/11 7:44 PM @mbteach @tomwhitby also sad to see a student bored in their current "grade"... Losing interest in all things related to school #edchat flavia_matias 1/18/11 7:44 PM @kylepace @whatedsaid Teachers most of the times want and/or tend 2 have control over stds' learning. #edchat shelleypa 1/18/11 7:45 PM RT @doctorjeff: I think there are things that need to be done reflective of the forest, and others reflective of individual trees. #edchat dobrien917 1/18/11 7:45 PM Long to find other teachers at work who actively seek lifelong learning. Few make time to learn online, connect on twitter, etc. #edchat L_Hilt 1/18/11 7:45 PM To clarify, I'm not taking a break from #edchat until it's over! #highstakes @kylepace doctorjeff 1/18/11 7:45 PM There are fundamentals that are in a teacher's purview to control and change, and many that are not. #edchat davidwees 1/18/11 7:45 PM RT @OKCAmanda: @21stprincipal schedules are there to make schools convenient for adults. #edchat BeckyFisher73 1/18/11 7:45 PM @EngTeachChick @whatedsaid Phil Schlechty calls this "affirmation" - an engaging quality of work #edchat bobneuf 1/18/11 7:45 PM RT @davidwees: Looking for educators to follow on Twitter? Check out this list of thousands of educators: http://is.gd/CrTV0a #edchat andereoogen 1/18/11 7:45 PM RT @tomwhitby: We need teachers to view themselves as mentors rather than keepers and distributors of content. #Edchat EngTeachChick 1/18/11 7:45 PM #edchat Vertical planning

djainslie 1/18/11 7:45 PM WANTED: teachers who take risks, admin who support risks, parents who see value of risks, then we will c gr8 progress #edchat kconners09 1/18/11 7:45 PM #edchat is fast & furious 2night. Trying 2 keep up. Keep thinking that ed won't change until state leaders read & understand. reasoningmind 1/18/11 7:45 PM that they have a hand in making RT @engteachchick: #edchat Learning contracts? Helpful in developing a sort of ownership for students OKCAmanda 1/18/11 7:45 PM @21stprincipal schedules are there to make schools convenient for adults. #edchat isteconnects 1/18/11 7:45 PM RT @TeachPaperless: Tourguides. RT @cybraryman1: RT @tomwhitby: We need teachers to view themselves as mentors rather than keepers & distrib of content. #Edchat Nunavut_Teacher 1/18/11 7:45 PM everything. Have schools changed? #edchat Google (Internet) changed

21stprincipal 1/18/11 7:45 PM @Melissa_Spencer That's it! How many of us ever got excited about reading a textbook? Engage in real world! #edchat newfirewithin 1/18/11 7:45 PM @shelleypa @tomwhitby @althiell I REALLY think there is something to that. #edchat bruno_cesar82 1/18/11 7:45 PM #edchat let us not forget that the term educational progressivism has been used somewhat indiscriminately artstude 1/18/11 7:45 PM RT @web20classroom: RT @tomwhitby: We need teachers to view themselves as mentors rather than keepers and distributors of content. #Edchat tomwhitby 1/18/11 7:45 PM We need to have all educators recognize that they need to continue to learn their profession. Better learners make better teachers! #edchat shelleypa 1/18/11 7:45 PM #edchat increase use of portfolios long-term reference notebooks for students that need some cognitive supports options for demo knowled TeachPaperless 1/18/11 7:45 PM @cybraryman1: RT @tomwhitby: #Edchat Or travel agents? RT

reasoningmind 1/18/11 7:45 PM RT @whatedsaid: The biggest question is how to move all of this out of #edchat into schools?

AngelaMaiers 1/18/11 7:45 PM RT @whatedsaid: The biggest question is how to move all of this out of #edchat into schools? Bring the transcript to next staff mtg #edchat briankotts 1/18/11 7:45 PM RT @ashleydburleson: Blogging rules for educators http://cot.ag/gsg1r6 (via @LearnBoost) #edtech #edchat NewsNumpty 1/18/11 7:45 PM RT @davidwees: Innovation needed: Selection of curriculum & content. Our current system cannot possibly hope to keep up. http://is.gd/r2dOYM #edchat Luke1946 1/18/11 7:45 PM RT @whatedsaid: The biggest question is how to move all of this out of #edchat into schools? MissShuganah 1/18/11 7:45 PM @ChrisVacek I want to teacher's partner, but I need support to be better able to do that. I end up tired. #edchat eyeoneducation 1/18/11 7:45 PM A New Study Looks Closely at eBook Use by Educators , new post on the @eyeoneducation blog http://bit.ly/gNRouQ #ebooks #edchat InnosightInstit 1/18/11 7:46 PM RT @tomwhitby: We need teachers to view themselves as mentors rather than keepers and distributors of content. #Edchat AngelaMaiers 1/18/11 7:46 PM RT @kylepace: Great Classroom 2.0 Live w/ @willrich45 and @stevehargadon immediately after #edchat tonight. http://bit.ly/fBf7OD #edchat teachwatts 1/18/11 7:46 PM @jonbergmann Great video http://youtu.be/nEfojG9ckYA on mastery learning Thanks for sharing! Will share at school today #edchat padgets 1/18/11 7:46 PM #edchat why do we have noneducators telling educators how schools should be? Would not tell a lawyer how to do their job :) tim_yocum 1/18/11 7:46 PM RT @tomwhitby: We need teachers to view themselves as mentors rather than keepers and distributors of content. #Edchat AngelaMaiers 1/18/11 7:46 PM RT @EveWeb @tomwhitby: We need 2 continue to learn their profession. Better learners make better teachers! #edchat BeckyFisher73 1/18/11 7:46 PM @21stprincipal Our middle and high schools begin 9ish, elementary at 7:45 #edchat

web20classroom 1/18/11 7:46 PM RT @kylepace: Great Classroom 2.0 Live w/ @willrich45 and @stevehargadon immediately after #edchat tonight. http://bit.ly/fBf7OD delta_dc 1/18/11 7:46 PM homesteaders or nomads? Are effective #teachers more like

davidwees 1/18/11 7:46 PM @elonahartjes Well in the case of a student who steadily improves during the year, their final assessments may be more telling. #edchat kylepace 1/18/11 7:46 PM Great Classroom 2.0 Live w/ @willrich45 and @stevehargadon immediately after #edchat tonight. http://bit.ly/fBf7OD mssanderson_ITS 1/18/11 7:46 PM RT @djainslie: WANTED: teachers who take risks, admin who support risks, parents who see value of risks, then we will c gr8 progress #edchat 21stprincipal 1/18/11 7:46 PM @OKCAmanda Yes! That's always the case. Really innovation thought: make your schedules out according to student needs. #edchat mrsblanchetnet 1/18/11 7:46 PM RT @djainslie: WANTED: teachers who take risks, admin who support risks, parents who see value of risks, then we will c gr8 progress #edchat lori_nelson 1/18/11 7:46 PM We should keep an expand our use of authentic assessment, especially creating products for an authentic audience. #edchat luisanke 1/18/11 7:46 PM Utilizis cosas de www.proyectoagrega.es? Cules? Merece la pena como repositorio de cabecera, o es otro petardo del gobierno? #edchat lovedrummin 1/18/11 7:46 PM RT @web20classroom: RT @tomwhitby: We need teachers to view themselves as mentors rather than keepers and distributors of content. #Edchat CoachGinsburg 1/18/11 7:46 PM @web20classroom @tomwhitby Yes to mentoring, or my preferred word: coaching--my students called me Coach G. #edchat debbiefuco 1/18/11 7:46 PM RT @padgets: #edchat been teaching 17 years & having teaching time of my life!! how many can say that? If U can then you will survive :)

cecbb 1/18/11 7:46 PM RT @AngelaMaiers: RT @dobrien917: Involve parents in more than just volunteering. Invite them 2 b active part of the learning community. #edchat TeachPaperless 1/18/11 7:46 PM I tend towards travel agents; book them the flight, let 'em explore. @cybraryman1: RT @tomwhitby: #Edchat lookforsun 1/18/11 7:46 PM @TeacherInMe @mzayfert #edchat Matching educator skills//talents with responsibilities - it takes many styles to run an effective school. tim_yocum 1/18/11 7:46 PM RT @djainslie: WANTED: teachers who take risks, admin who support risks, parents who see value of risks, then we will c gr8 progress #edchat EveWeb 1/18/11 7:46 PM RT @tomwhitby: We need to have all educators recognize that they need to continue to learn their profession. Better learners make better teachers! #edchat andycinek 1/18/11 7:46 PM Innovation in edu starts with getting 2 know your students and then, provoking their talents and critical thinking #edchat It's very simple tim_yocum 1/18/11 7:47 PM my failures than my successes. #edchat @McGough3R I 've learned more from

EngTeachChick 1/18/11 7:47 PM #edchat reform can begin earlier, in college. Gotta get those profs to change their teaching styles too shannoninottawa 1/18/11 7:47 PM RT @tomwhitby: We will not reach "out of the box" innovation unless we promote in students and teachers the ability to use out of the box thinking. #Edchat L_Hilt 1/18/11 7:47 PM We need cohesive teams of educators, constantly learning from and bettering one another, to lead the way. #edchat lookforsun 1/18/11 7:47 PM RT @doctorjeff: @tomwhitby we also need teachers to recognize and embrace that they are a guiding light for student exploration. #edchat mbteach 1/18/11 7:47 PM RT @kylepace: Great Classroom 2.0 Live w/ @willrich45 and @stevehargadon immediately after #edchat tonight. http://bit.ly/fBf7OD tomwhitby 1/18/11 7:47 PM We will not reach "out of the box" innovation unless we promote in students and teachers the ability to use out of the box thinking. #Edchat

Melissa_Spencer 1/18/11 7:47 PM Have to engage higher ed - high school tchrs often use prep for college as reason to continue with traditional methods & textbooks #edchat debbiefuco 1/18/11 7:47 PM RT @tomwhitby: We need teachers to view themselves as mentors rather than keepers and distributors of content. #Edchat InvasiveNotes 1/18/11 7:47 PM RT @doctorjeff: I think there are things that need to be done reflective of the forest, and others reflective of individual trees. #edchat JenAnsbach 1/18/11 7:47 PM @tomwhitby Sometimes it feels like 1 extreme or the other-tchrs who learn new wo mastering bc of pressure and tchrs who don't learn. #edchat pete_rodrigues 1/18/11 7:47 PM If teachers are no longer the "keepers" then we need to learn how to teach the processing of info #edchat AngelaMaiers 1/18/11 7:47 PM Happy New Year! #edchat @englishcomp Great to see you , Jim!

TeacherInMe 1/18/11 7:47 PM I believe student teachers (like myself) are important for bringing fresh ideas and current information into the classroom. #edchat 21stprincipal 1/18/11 7:47 PM @BeckyFisher73 Yes, and all the research we hear is that teens aren't alive until after 10, yet we start school at 7 and 8 AM. #edchat whatedsaid 1/18/11 7:47 PM RT @tomwhitby: We need to have all educators recognize that they need to continue to learn their profession. Better learners make better teachers! #edchat InvasiveNotes 1/18/11 7:47 PM RT @doctorjeff: There are fundamentals that are in a teacher's purview to control and change, and many that are not. #edchat lookforsun 1/18/11 7:47 PM @OKCAmanda @21stprincipal #edchat Not just convenient, but practical - educators are people too w/families and other responsibilities. WackJacq 1/18/11 7:47 PM #edchat I "best" is up to the student within acceptable deadlines set by the class. @johnsonmaryj @reasoningmind @davidwees davidwees 1/18/11 7:47 PM Innovations that need to end: People who have done very little research on education pretending to be experts. #edchat

mbteach 1/18/11 7:47 PM @CoachGinsburg I agree---many of my students get annoyed when asked to work 'hard' or when given a challenge #edchat mzayfert 1/18/11 7:47 PM RT @web20classroom: RT @tomwhitby: We need teachers to view themselves as mentors rather than keepers and distributors of content. #Edchat EngTeachChick 1/18/11 7:47 PM #edchat If we need better prepared teachers, we need better prepared colleges. gilbert_artist 1/18/11 7:47 PM @AngelaMaiers people that love teaching will develop skills but we need government to realize that with education comes solutions, #edchat debbiefuco 1/18/11 7:47 PM RT @21stprincipal: Get rid of "We've always done it that way" thinking annd reasoning. #edchat Also, if it was good enough for me... web20classroom 1/18/11 7:47 PM @CoachGinsburg @tomwhitby Yep. Whatever it is called, we need to make sure we cultivate those qualities in others. #edchat OKCAmanda 1/18/11 7:47 PM @tomwhitby it's also important that administrators view themselves as educators as well....#edchat doctorjeff 1/18/11 7:47 PM @tomwhitby we also need teachers to recognize and embrace that they are a guiding light for student exploration. #edchat lovedrummin 1/18/11 7:47 PM RT @djainslie: WANTED: teachers who take risks, admin who support risks, parents who see value of risks, then we will c gr8 progress #edchat McGough3R 1/18/11 7:47 PM @tim_yocum It is all about risk and the ability to learn from failure. Too many people expect to only win! #edchat englishcomp 1/18/11 7:47 PM RT @tomwhitby: We need to have all educators recognize that they need to continue to learn their profession. Better learners make better teachers! #edchat tim_yocum 1/18/11 7:48 PM RT @mbteach: seems like we want to keep collaboration among stakeholders, rethink assessment and foster skills rather than content #edchat McGough3R 1/18/11 7:48 PM @tim_yocum ME too! Hard to explain to students that "the struggle" is part of the learning process. #edchat

craigduplessie 1/18/11 7:48 PM Grade 3 student demos Front End Addition | Gretna Green Elementary http://t.co/ICe9oyr #edchat whatedsaid 1/18/11 realise that! #edchat 7:48 PM @doctorjeff most teachers don't

lovedrummin 1/18/11 7:48 PM RT @andycinek: Innovation in edu starts with getting 2 know your students and then, provoking their talents and critical thinking #edchat It's very simple mbteach 1/18/11 7:48 PM So it seems like we want to keep collaboration among stakeholders, rethink assessment and foster skills rather than content #edchat shelleypa 1/18/11 7:48 PM #edchat @newfirewithin I really think so- I taught self-contained 6th, 7th, and 8th grade students and learned alot from flexible groups whatedsaid 1/18/11 7:48 PM RT @doctorjeff: There are fundamental principles I think. E.g., it is fundamentally the student's classroom not the teacher's. #edchat peterflom 1/18/11 7:48 PM @ljhardin OK, not ALL tech in ed is bad, but we over-emphasize it, I think #edchat Melissa_Spencer 1/18/11 7:48 PM RT @djainslie: RT @tomwhitby: We need teachers to view themselves as mentors rather than keepers and distributors of content. <agreed #edchat mzayfert 1/18/11 7:48 PM RT @lookforsun: @TeacherInMe @mzayfert #edchat Matching educator skills//talents with responsibilities - it takes many styles to run an effective school. reasoningmind 1/18/11 7:48 PM @elonahartjes But in GT classes they often like having high goals set. How can we have that in EVERY class? #edchat doctorjeff 1/18/11 7:48 PM There are fundamental principles I think. E.g., it is fundamentally the student's classroom not the teacher's. #edchat lookforsun 1/18/11 Yes , it's a process. 7:48 PM @McGough3R @tim_yocum #edchat -

flavia_matias 1/18/11 7:48 PM RT @tomwhitby: We need to have all educators recognize that they need to continue to learn their profession. Better learners make better teachers! #edchat TeacherInMe 1/18/11 7:48 PM RT @whatedsaid: @TeacherInMe Teachers have to be learners first.. otherwise there's no hope :) #edchat

andreamiller20 1/18/11 7:48 PM What are administrators doing to mentor their teachers? provide training? R they hiring the best of the best? That's whr it starts. #edchat Bru_Trancoso 1/18/11 7:48 PM RT @tomwhitby: We need to have all educators recognize that they need to continue to learn their profession. Better learners make better teachers! #edchat WackJacq 1/18/11 7:48 PM RT @stumpteacher: dont wait 4 reform 2 come from front office or capitol hill, reform yr classroom now & help the students U have. #edchat newfirewithin 1/18/11 7:48 PM RT @reasoningmind RT @nunavut_teacher One of my favorite quotes "The biggest obstacle to school change is our memories." Allen Glenn #edchat reasoningmind 1/18/11 7:49 PM RT @davidwees: Innovations that need to end: People who have done very little research on education pretending to be experts. #edchat CoachGinsburg 1/18/11 7:49 PM When kid asks for help, I ask"where are your notes?" No notes, no help. And when they get mad, I say I love you too much to help. #edchat tim_yocum 1/18/11 7:49 PM @McGough3R Part of the instant gratification generation. We all should get a trophy. #edchat doctorjeff 1/18/11 teachers realize? #edchat 7:49 PM @whatedsaid what don't most

drtimony 1/18/11 7:49 PM RT @tomwhitby: We need to have all educators recognize that they need to continue to learn their profession. #edchat 21stprincipal 1/18/11 7:49 PM @BeckyFisher73 I know, we wanted to start school later and end later too and sports killed the idea. #edchat carolgau 1/18/11 7:49 PM RT @EngTeachChick: Encouraging students that it's okay to fail, but NOT okay to give up. #edchat teachernz 1/18/11 7:49 PM @kylepace @AngelaMaiers #edchat the big thing to model is collaboration ... too many teachers simply don't ... rjwassink 1/18/11 7:49 PM most agree that learning happens outside the classroom. How many teachers *teach*when not on the clock? #edchat

OKCAmanda 1/18/11 7:49 PM @21stprincipal I think most large high schools could successfully schedule as if they were a community college....#edchat doctorjeff 1/18/11 7:49 PM We need to use more technology but as a value-added asset capable of NEW learning experiences, and not an upgrade to same old thing. #edchat doctorjeff 1/18/11 7:49 PM We need to use more technology but as a value-added asset capable of NEW learning experiences, and not an upgrade to same old thing. #edchat tomwhitby 1/18/11 7:49 PM RT @mbteach: It seems we want to keep collaboration among stakeholders, rethink assessment and foster skills rather than content #edchat AngelaMaiers 1/18/11 7:49 PM Great discussion tonight friend- you inspire me to be a great learner! #edchat djainslie 1/18/11 7:49 PM I don't think pulling GT students out for programs is the right answer- teacher needs 2 differentiate all levels #edchat Luke1946 1/18/11 7:49 PM for me at the tweet-ups! #edchat Off topic, but if you're at #FETC, look

web20classroom 1/18/11 7:49 PM RT @L_Hilt: We need cohesive teams of educators, constantly learning from and bettering one another, to lead the way. #edchat WackJacq 1/18/11 7:49 PM RT @azjd: @tomwhitby Iwe have 2 B open 2 sum dramatic changes. sum of R practices just dont make sense . #edchat I cannot sit by anymore!!!! mrsblanchetnet 1/18/11 7:49 PM students: "embrace the struggle"! #edchat @McGough3R I always tell my

BeckyFisher73 1/18/11 7:49 PM @21stprincipal That's a local decision, though. Our discussion was about sporting events being held too late and kids w/jobs. #edchat L_Hilt 1/18/11 7:49 PM RT @doctorjeff: There are fundamental principles I think. E.g., it is fundamentally the student's classroom not the teacher's. #edchat jadedid 1/18/11 7:49 PM RT @web20classroom: RT @tomwhitby: We need teachers to view themselves as mentors rather than keepers and distributors of content. #Edchat

kylepace 1/18/11 7:49 PM RT @L_Hilt: We need cohesive teams of educators, constantly learning from and bettering one another, to lead the way. #edchat EngTeachChick 1/18/11 7:49 PM okay to fail, but NOT okay to give up. #edchat Encouraging students that it's

padgets 1/18/11 7:49 PM #edchat persistence is the key, I did and now we have web 2.0 unblocked, I now love my promethean board and all things tech reasoningmind 1/18/11 7:49 PM @wackjacq Great! We encourage and support all of our teacher in setting individual goals for each of their students. #edchat padgets 1/18/11 7:50 PM RT @cybraryman1: It's time to stop talking and start The Twitter Academy http://bit.ly/as9R0g #twitacad #edchat lindseybp 1/18/11 7:50 PM RT @willrich45: Shameless selfpromotion: Investing in Teachers as Learners http://bit.ly/fMZYRg EdWeek. Top secret free access link. #edchat #edreform bruno_cesar82 1/18/11 7:50 PM Sydney J. Harris once said that the whole purpose of edu was to turn mirrors into windows. Always bear in mind that. #edchat dobrien917 1/18/11 7:50 PM When students are given the opportunity to mentor each other, it is a beautiful thing. #edchat EngTeachChick 1/18/11 7:50 PM RT @CoachGinsburg: When kid asks for help, I ask"where are your notes?" No notes, no help. ... I say I love you too much to help. #edchat newfirewithin 1/18/11 7:50 PM @shelleypa That's really encouraging. I think there is power in different aged groups. #edchat OKCAmanda 1/18/11 7:50 PM @lookforsun some teachers might choose to teach classes later in the day while others stick to a more traditional schedule... #edchat 21stprincipal 1/18/11 7:50 PM @OKCAmanda Yes, why do we think we need to keep high schoolers corralled all day like animals. Send them forth to learn! #edchat cybraryman1 1/18/11 7:50 PM It's time to stop talking and start The Twitter Academy http://bit.ly/as9R0g #twitacad #edchat becky7274 1/18/11 7:50 PM Good admin are crucial to engaging teachers and fostering an environment where we are free to take risks #edchat

doctorjeff 1/18/11 7:50 PM teacher owns the classroom. #edchat

Education denied: as soon as the

shannoninottawa 1/18/11 7:50 PM #edchat @L_Hilt & we need to promote learning through "weak links" - learning from teams beyond the school / district lookforsun 1/18/11 7:50 PM @andreamiller20 #edchat Yes, it's important for admin to foster a learning community i.e. pd, institutes, plcs, books groups, collaboration. AshtaFelix 1/18/11 7:50 PM RT @tomwhitby: We need teachers to view themselves as mentors rather than keepers and distributors of content. #Edchat tkraz 1/18/11 7:50 PM RT @mrsblanchetnet: @McGough3R I always tell my students: "embrace the struggle"! <- I mention the growth mind-set to help sell it #edchat teachernz 1/18/11 7:50 PM RT @tomwhitby: We should also consider dropping grouping by (Age) Grades. #Edchat courtney30speer 1/18/11 7:50 PM RT @tomwhitby: We need to have all educators recognize that they need to continue to learn their profession. Better learners make better teachers! #edchat tamurray 1/18/11 7:50 PM RT @L_Hilt: We need cohesive teams of educators, constantly learning from and bettering one another, to lead the way. #edchat JohnMilewski 1/18/11 7:50 PM RT @davidwees Innovations that need to end: People who have done very little research on education pretending to be experts. #edchat oline73 1/18/11 7:50 PM RT @tomwhitby: We need to have all educators recognize that they need to continue to learn their profession. Better learners make better teachers! #edchat TeacherInMe 1/18/11 7:50 PM RT @engteachchick Encouraging students that it's okay to fail, but NOT okay to give up. #edchat L_Hilt 1/18/11 7:51 PM RT @becky7274: Good admin are crucial to engaging teachers and fostering an environment where we are free to take risks #edchat CoachGinsburg 1/18/11 7:51 PM @doctorjeff Good pt about teacher owning classroom! Show me a controlling teacher, and I'll show you a classroom out of control. #edchat

MissLadyCaz 1/18/11 7:51 PM 'best of the best'? #edchat

How do Administrators determine the

doctorjeff 1/18/11 7:51 PM Education denied: when we don't facilitate student ownership in the learning. #edchat kyraocity 1/18/11 7:51 PM RT @web20classroom: RT @L_Hilt: We need cohesive teams of educators, constantly learning from and bettering one another, to lead way #edchat tim_yocum 1/18/11 7:51 PM They learn more from each other RT @dobrien917:When students are given the opportunity 2 mentor each other, it is a beautiful thing. #edchat 21stprincipal 1/18/11 7:51 PM Biggest reform in educational thinking: Learning can, does, will happen outside the walls of our schools. Why not tap into it? #edchat EngTeachChick 24/7 #edchat 1/18/11 7:51 PM Teaching is not an 8-4 job, it's

djgallagher 1/18/11 7:51 PM Yes!!@becky7274 Good admin are crucial to engaging teachers and fostering an environment where we are free to take risks #edchat flavia_matias 1/18/11 #edchat 7:51 PM @mrsblanchetnet That's also true!

L_Hilt 1/18/11 7:51 PM RT @willrich45: Shameless self-promotion: Investing in Teachers as Learners http://bit.ly/fMZYRg EdWeek. Top secret free access link. #edchat #edreform chriszuccaro 1/18/11 7:51 PM @djainslie My wife (who is gifted) thinks that Gifted kids should have their own classrooms like she did in VA.#edchat eeekster 1/18/11 7:51 PM RT @doctorjeff: Education denied: when learning content trumps critical thinking. #edchat mbteach #edchat 1/18/11 7:51 PM @CoachGinsburg tough love-- I like it

MissShuganah 1/18/11 7:51 PM @ChrisVacek I agree. My Catch 22 is that I don't have sufficient support so that I can partner w teachers to best of my ability. #edchat

WackJacq 1/18/11 7:51 PM We need to redefine the terms: mentors instead of teachers, leaders of learners instead of administrators...#edchat BeckyFisher73 1/18/11 7:51 PM @21stprincipal If we killed the Carnegie unit & engaged in standards-based learning, not age-based grouping, school day can vary. #edchat lovedrummin 1/18/11 7:51 PM RT @kylepace: RT @L_Hilt: We need cohesive teams of educators, constantly learning from and bettering one another, to lead the way. #edchat TeacherInMe 1/18/11 7:51 PM RT @reasoningmind @davidwees We also need to give a stronger voice and more support to the TRUE experts on education. #edchat flavia_matias 1/18/11 7:51 PM @brophycat Agreed! #edchat!

djainslie 1/18/11 7:51 PM RT @dobrien917: When students are given the opportunity to mentor each other, it is a beautiful thing.< yes it is #edchat Melissa_Spencer 1/18/11 7:51 PM Have to help teachers examine curricula, assessment & grading practices without it being forced upon them #edchat tomwhitby 1/18/11 thinking. #edchat 7:51 PM @LParisi That is out of the box

derekspalla 1/18/11 7:51 PM RT @tomwhitby: We need to have all educators recognize that they need to continue to learn their profession. Better learners make better teachers! #edchat davidwees 1/18/11 7:51 PM I'm okay with just about anyone throwing ideas on how to improve education, just don't pretend to be an expert. #edchat gdahlby 1/18/11 7:51 PM Many of best educators are also frequently students/learners) which helps them remember nervousness of not being so sure of things #edchat drtimony 1/18/11 7:51 PM @TeacherInMe I don't agree with that. Expectation must exist for all Ts to bring in new ideas #edchat lookforsun 1/18/11 #edchat Effort is key! 7:51 PM @TeacherInMe @engteachchick

clb1015 1/18/11 7:51 PM RT @cybraryman1: We should not forget "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." #edchat doctorjeff 1/18/11 7:51 PM Education denied: when learning content trumps critical thinking. #edchat reasoningmind 1/18/11 7:51 PM @davidwees let's support those whose "agenda" solely consists of getting every student a solid education! #edchat becky7274 1/18/11 7:52 PM @EngTeachChick Sad that so many refuse to learn out side school hours because it's not in the contract #edchat teachernz 1/18/11 will read it all later flavia_matias 1/18/11 7:52 PM 7:52 PM I'm out #edchat... too slow on phone... @TheGilch Thanks for the RT! #edchat

MissShuganah 1/18/11 7:52 PM @ChrisVacek My concern is that parents don't get blasted for being indifferent when they may in fact feel overwhelmed. #edchat WackJacq 1/18/11 7:52 PM We teach students! not content...content is ubiquitous! Look around!!! #edchat lori_nelson 1/18/11 7:52 PM RT @OKCAmanda: @lookforsun some teachers might choose to teach classes later in the day while others stick to a more traditional schedule... #edchat shannoninottawa 1/18/11 7:52 PM #edchat - need greater autonomy to experiment, discover and make mistakes - model for colleagues and students alike BeckyFisher73 1/18/11 7:52 PM @21stprincipal The choice to take 7:30 or 3:30 classes was easy for me - 7:30 every time! #edchat whatedsaid 1/18/11 7:52 PM @doctorjeff that's it's about the learners... forgotten how you put it! #edchat lookforsun 1/18/11 7:52 PM @OKCAmanda #edchat - yes, I like the idea of many different roles for teachers and schedules too. 21stprincipal 1/18/11 7:52 PM @BeckyFisher73 And why do we tenaciously hold on to those? Because we've always done it? #edchat tamurray 1/18/11 7:52 PM RT @OKCAmanda: I think most large high schools could successfully schedule as if they were a community college....#edchat <--interesting pt.

DahlD 1/18/11 7:52 PM It all starts with us in the classroom. Prove what works instead of listening to politicians. #edchat drniaimani 1/18/11 7:52 PM RT @ileducprof: RT @cybraryman1: It's time to stop talking and start The Twitter Academy http://bit.ly/as9R0g #twitacad #edchat #BlackEdu jonbergmann 1/18/11 7:52 PM RT @WackJacq: We need to redefine the terms: mentors instead of teachers, leaders of learners instead of administrators...#edchat dmantz7 1/18/11 7:52 PM RT @BeckyFisher73: @21stprincipal If we killed the Carnegie unit & engaged in standards-based learning, not agebased grouping, school day can vary. #edchat Luke1946 1/18/11 7:52 PM Actually, being retired and subbing is kind of liberating in the area of ed-reform. #edchat shelleypa 1/18/11 7:52 PM RT @doctorjeff: Education denied: when learning content trumps critical thinking. #edchat BeckyFisher73 1/18/11 7:52 PM @21stprincipal College freshmen have control over the hours of their school day - I always liked to start early and end early. #edchat lori_nelson 1/18/11 7:52 PM RT @OKCAmanda: @21stprincipal I think most large high schools could successfully schedule as if they were a community college....#edchat mbteach 1/18/11 7:52 PM @davidwees exactly. Modesty and humility is the key when trying to change a system #edchat mzayfert 1/18/11 7:52 PM what if we changed grades to levels? Encourage students to reach higher levels, like video gaming #edchat ileducprof 1/18/11 7:52 PM RT @cybraryman1: It's time to stop talking and start The Twitter Academy http://bit.ly/as9R0g #twitacad #edchat #BlackEdu reasoningmind 1/18/11 7:52 PM RT @angelamaiers: Great discussion tonight friend- you inspire me to be a great learner! #edchat <-- that's what it's all about! L_Hilt 1/18/11 7:53 PM RT @shannoninottawa: #edchat - need greater autonomy to experiment, discover and make mistakes - model for colleagues and students alike

jonbergmann 1/18/11 7:53 PM @mzayfert Levels enocurage learning and mastery is possible for all students #edchat milenagarg 1/18/11 7:53 PM RT @Grad_BrainSMART: Coaching students learning instead of direct instruction. #edchat CoachB0066 1/18/11 7:53 PM RT @kylepace: RT @teachernz: #edchat the big thing to model is collaboration ... too many teachers simply don't ... BeckyFisher73 1/18/11 7:53 PM @21stprincipal For us, transportation is a huge expense - 3 comprehensive high schools and 740 sq miles. Can't have revolving door. #edchat L_Hilt 1/18/11 7:53 PM RT @WackJacq: We teach students! not content...content is ubiquitous! Look around!!! #edchat Grad_BrainSMART 1/18/11 7:53 PM instead of direct instruction. #edchat Coaching students learning

gdahlby 1/18/11 7:53 PM Do your communities have weekend classes/courses for your 7-12 students? #edchat How about summers? or evenings? 21stprincipal 1/18/11 7:53 PM responsibility too. #edchat @OKCAmanda Yes we do. It also adds

tim_yocum 1/18/11 7:53 PM RT @kylepace: RT @teachernz: #edchat the big thing to model is collaboration ... too many teachers simply don't ... acorgill 1/18/11 7:53 PM RT @plugusin: Really funny bit translating eduspeak for policymakers: http://bit.ly/fEVabc #edpolicy #edreform #edchat andreamiller20 1/18/11 7:53 PM Yes,many teachers continue professional development and even earn higher level degrees - important. What will merit pay do to that? #edchat doctorjeff 1/18/11 classroom. #edchat 7:53 PM @whatedsaid oh yes, who own's the

bruno_cesar82 1/18/11 7:53 PM I wish we all had enough patience to explain sts that mistakes are part of the process. A Gazillion times if need be! #edchat kylepace 1/18/11 7:53 PM RT @teachernz: #edchat the big thing to model is collaboration ... too many teachers simply don't ...

CoachGinsburg 1/18/11 7:53 PM @mbteach Yes, tough love. Problem is most educators/schools are either too loving (permissive) or too tough (punitive). #edchat reasoningmind 1/18/11 7:53 PM No more self-contained classrooms. Thoughts? No one is an expert on everything. #edchat EngTeachChick 1/18/11 Everything is. #edchat 7:53 PM Yes, it's in your job description.

gitammas 1/18/11 7:53 PM RT @TeachPaperless: RT @AngelaMaiers: The life of true digital learner is crazy, messy, overwhelming, hard, unpredictable...does not fit in 3ring binder #edchat djainslie 1/18/11 7:53 PM RT @MissLadyCaz: Adm should facilitate that greatness through listening, support, and leading a collaborative envir of trust #edchat OKCAmanda 1/18/11 7:53 PM @21stprincipal we might boost productivity and enthusiasm if we give teachers and students a little ownership through choice. #edchat doctorjeff 1/18/11 7:53 PM Education denied: when we rein in students meandering through the content landscape through query. #edchat McGough3R 1/18/11 7:53 PM @tkraz I use a Problem-based Learning method with open-ended questions. It takes time to help my learners become divergent thinkers. #edchat whatedsaid 1/18/11 7:53 PM Have to go.. Thanks for #edchat! With levels you eliminate "failure" and

mzayfert 1/18/11 7:53 PM encourage success #edchat

lookforsun 1/18/11 7:53 PM @TeacherInMe #edchat Yes, but learning in the mountains, a foreign country, or through social service is so powerful! L_Hilt 1/18/11 7:53 PM @shannoninottawa Def., learning teams need to extend beyond the school to collaborate with other teams. Build that knowledge base! #edchat wstites 1/18/11 7:53 PM RT @melhutch: New blog post: Paddling with the iPad in my first grade reading group http://ow.ly/3Ga1f #edipad #edchat #edtech jonbergmann 1/18/11 7:53 PM RT @mzayfert: what if we changed grades to levels? Encourage students to reach higher levels, like video gaming #edchat

21stprincipal 1/18/11 7:53 PM @BeckyFisher73 I think that is even wiser than having a set schedule. #edchat andycinek 1/18/11 7:53 PM Again I ask you to look at your classrooms or look into one. Would you want to be there knowing what you know now? #edchat 21stprincipal 1/18/11 7:54 PM even if you give them 2 or 3. #edchat @QueensTeacher1 Kids love choices,

McGough3R 1/18/11 7:54 PM @L_Hilt That is the type of thinking that helped 2 launch our international education initiative #India. http://ekwip.wordpress.com #edchat doctorjeff 1/18/11 7:54 PM RT @CoachGinsburg: @doctorjeff Good pt about teacher owning classroom! Show me a controlling teacher, and I'll show you a classroom out of control. #edchat teachernz 1/18/11 7:54 PM @mrsblanchetnet #edchat you're right... so do it globally :-) skip the local ... and global is more WOW! especially for students reasoningmind 1/18/11 7:54 PM RT @l_hilt: RT @WackJacq: We teach students! not content...content is ubiquitous! Look around!!! #edchat gdahlby #edchat 1/18/11 7:54 PM Have you heard of citizen school?

kyraocity 1/18/11 7:54 PM RT @doctorjeff: Education denied: when learning content trumps critical thinking. #edchat DahlD 1/18/11 7:54 PM RT @TeachPaperless: Tourguides. RT @cybraryman1: RT @tomwhitby: We need teachers to view themselves as mentors rather than keepers & distrib of content. #Edchat penphoe 1/18/11 7:54 PM RT @davidwees: Must read (sorry not sure who shared it with me) => Does assessment hinder learning? http://is.gd/YKDmif #edchat #cpchat lookforsun 1/18/11 7:54 PM @andycinek #edchat Not sure exactly what you mean by "fueling the rhetoric" as it's important to talk about ideas, but positively. bbeck19 1/18/11 7:54 PM Agreed! RT @becky7274 @EngTeachChick Sad that so many refuse to learn out side school hours because it's not in the contract #edchat

tbunner 1/18/11 7:54 PM RT @tomwhitby: We need to have all educators recognize that they need to continue to learn their profession. Better learners make better teachers! #edchat TeacherInMe 1/18/11 7:54 PM RT @cybraryman1: It's time to stop talking and start The Twitter Academy http://bit.ly/as9R0g #twitacad #edchat -Woohoo! dobrien917 1/18/11 7:54 PM Agreed! And it involves time outside of the classroom for lifelong learning. RT @EngTeachChick: Teaching is not an 8-4 job,it's 24/7 #edchat WackJacq 1/18/11 7:54 PM @BeckyFisher73 Phil Schlechty is awesome !!!! One of my favorite edu authors! #edchat OKCAmanda 1/18/11 7:55 PM @21stprincipal agree... Many students don't know how to handle responsibility in college after high school #edchat padgets 1/18/11 7:55 PM #edchat if we taught our students like we do PD in some cases we would be teachers in need of assistance tomwhitby 1/18/11 7:55 PM There is as much of a responsibilty to provde ongoing Professional Development as there is to take it.No Chioce it's the profession! #Edchat 21stprincipal 1/18/11 7:55 PM @QueensTeacher1 Yes, it takes time to make that work, but when you learn to manage it, engagement soars. #edchat dane1434 1/18/11 7:55 PM RT @kylepace: RT @teachernz: #edchat the big thing to model is collaboration ... too many teachers simply don't ... CoachB0066 1/18/11 7:55 PM RT @andycinek: Again I ask you to look at your classrooms or look into one. Would you want to be there knowing what you know now? #edchat lori_nelson 1/18/11 7:55 PM @becky7274 @engteachchick Is that because they have been burned by poor PD? #edchat shelleypa 1/18/11 7:55 PM #edchat no only group by levels - but also by interest, motivation, vary groups based activities, projects Sometimes lead, Sometimes follow Melissa_Spencer 1/18/11 7:55 PM RT @doctorjeff: Education denied: when learning content trumps critical thinking. #edchat andycinek 1/18/11 7:56 PM We must recognize limitations in our practice, but never stop innovating our classroom instruction #edchat

reasoningmind 1/18/11 7:56 PM RT @tomwhitby: Theres as much of a responsibilty to provide ongoing PD as there is to take it. No Chioce it's the profession! #Edchat Melissa_Spencer 1/18/11 7:56 PM In order for these ideas to become reality, TIME is needed - for collaboration among teachers, across lookforsun 1/18/11 the wonderful ideas. 7:56 PM #edchat Great discussion thanks for all

EngTeachChick 1/18/11 7:56 PM @lori_nelson or because they have reached close to the end of their years are don't care anymore. #edchat dane1434 1/18/11 7:56 PM RT @cybraryman1: It's time to stop talking and start The Twitter Academy http://bit.ly/as9R0g #twitacad #edchat tim_yocum 1/18/11 7:56 PM RT @tomwhitby: There is as much of a responsibilty 2 provde ongoing Professional Development as there is to take it.#Edchat Mr_Johansson1/18/11 7:56 PM @mzayfert Doesn't that get boring for anyone? Recycling lesson plans? #edchat lori_nelson 1/18/11 7:56 PM @dobrien917 @engteachchick Especially true if we want to be seen as professionals. #edchat andreamiller20 1/18/11 7:56 PM @MissLadyCaz Just as business prof do when they are hiring - tough interviews- don't just hire anyone with a certificate! #edchat McGough3R 1/18/11 7:56 PM collaboration as "cheating." #edchat @kylepace Many schools view

doctorjeff 1/18/11 7:56 PM Here's a thought, let students teach & lead classes w guidance. Until u teach you really don't know what you don't know. #edchat davidwees 1/18/11 for an awesome #edchat 7:56 PM Gotta go, basketball practice. Thanks

ohboymama 1/18/11 7:56 PM Adding content & enrichment activities thru moodle course helps guide student learning. #Edchat I hope we can offer online extras that way jonbergmann 1/18/11 7:56 PM Until the teacher stops "lecturing" and becomes a facilitator instead of diseminator, reform won't happen #edchat djainslie 1/18/11 7:56 PM Thanks for a great #edchat tonightwe would make a great school staff, challenging ourselves to be the best! #edchat

EngTeachChick 1/18/11 7:56 PM I would like to have more arts integration and choices for classes. For ex. we only have Spanish for foreign lang. Not enough #edchat techmental 1/18/11 7:56 PM RT @shyj: Love this for classroom use when viewing YouTube videos: http://viewpure.com/ #edchat andycinek 1/18/11 7:56 PM @lookforsun I mean having an honest debate about what we can do now rather than about how we are limited #edchat debbiefuco 1/18/11 7:56 PM RT @AngelaMaiers: Great discussion tonight friend- you inspire me to be a great learner! #edchat flavia_matias 1/18/11 7:57 PM RT @L_Hilt: We need cohesive teams of educators, constantly learning from and bettering one another, to lead the way. #edchat 21stprincipal 1/18/11 7:57 PM @QueensTeacher1 Sure, the key to me has been engagement with whatever I used. #edchat reasoningmind 1/18/11 7:57 PM @chriszuccaro you need to see a Reasoning Mind classroom. That's what we're all about! #edchat doctorjeff 1/18/11 7:57 PM Education denied: when testing rules; when testing is about what they've memorized; when testing makes learning ...suck. #edchat BeckyFisher73 1/18/11 7:57 PM @WackJacq Agreed - Working on the Work is a book ALL educators should read (IMHO) #edchat cybraryman1 1/18/11 7:57 PM @kylepace @mbteach Thanks for helping me reform my ideas of what to keep & change in ed. #edchat padgets 1/18/11 7:57 PM #edchat so with all the ideas I have seen here tonight, will you be the first to start the dance in your school? will you start the change? elonahartjes 1/18/11 7:57 PM research suggests 39% of teachers have skills 2 use ICTs in classroom but most only do so once a week - #edchat L_Hilt 1/18/11 7:57 PM Need to teach them how... RT @kylepace: RT @teachernz: #edchat the big thing to model is collaboration ... too many teachers simply don't TheTeacherGeek 1/18/11 7:57 PM Continue to reach out to colleagues who are reluctant to collaborate. Eventually you will win someone over. #edchat

lookforsun 1/18/11 7:57 PM @andycinek #edchat Good point what I am doing now is trying to develop meaningful 21stC units based on essential skills/student interest. tbunner 1/18/11 7:57 PM RT @tomwhitby: There is as much of a responsibilty to provde ongoing Professional Development as there is to take it.No Chioce it's the profession! #Edchat gdahlby 1/18/11 7:57 PM parents and community ? #edchat How often do your teachers meet w/

dobrien917 1/18/11 7:57 PM Looking forward to @stevehargadon interview with @willrich45 tonight. http://bit.ly/g2Iofy #futureofed #edchat pete_rodrigues 1/18/11 7:57 PM RT @andycinek: We must recognize limitations in our practice, but never stop innovating our classroom instruction #edchat graingered 1/18/11 7:57 PM @davidwees Expertise, like mastery is a myth. There is ALWAYS more to learn and discover making both asymptotes #edchat tyates21 1/18/11 7:57 PM RT @newfirewithin: RT @reasoningmind RT @nunavut_teacher One of my favorite quotes "The biggest obstacle to school change is our memories." Allen Glenn #edchat robertdmiller 1/18/11 7:57 PM RT @wstites: Would suggest that if you're tweeting about the #ipad in education that you use #edipad to focus the discussion #edchat #isedchat #edtech BeckyFisher73 1/18/11 7:57 PM @L_Hilt Sounds like you're describing combination of intense PLC and instructional rounds work #edchat EngTeachChick 1/18/11 7:57 PM RT @MissShuganah: If it takes a village to raise a child, then where is the village? I want a village. Not a bureaucracy. #edchat TeacherInMe 1/18/11 7:57 PM And always searching for new ideas to bring into the classroom! RT @dobrien917 @EngTeachChick: Teaching is not an 8-4 job,it's 24/7 #edchat MissShuganah 1/18/11 7:57 PM If it takes a village to raise a child, then where is the village? I want a village. Not a bureaucracy. #edchat teachingfriends 1/18/11 7:58 PM RT @tomwhitby: We need to have all educators recognize that they need to continue to learn their profession. Better learners make better teachers! #edchat

padgets 1/18/11 7:58 PM happen so like Nike says, JUST DO IT!!!

#edchat you all know what needs to

michaeltdunn 1/18/11 7:58 PM RT @InnosightInstit: RT @tomwhitby: We need teachers to view themselves as mentors rather than keepers and distributors of content. #Edchat carolgau 1/18/11 7:58 PM RT @rjwassink: Students really need to learn themselves. What are their passions, learning styles, etc. Thats what I was never given time to study. #edchat SamGliksman 1/18/11 7:58 PM Assessment isn't the problem- can't measure progress without it. It's type & sledgehammer use of assessment that is problem #edchat #cpchat Melissa_Spencer 1/18/11 7:58 PM RT @OKCAmanda: @21stprincipal I think most large high schools could successfully schedule as if they were a community college... #edchat EngTeachChick 1/18/11 my baby is calling #edchat 7:58 PM Great discussion. Thanks! Now

isteconnects 1/18/11 7:58 PM Sorry to have missed the end of #edchat. There was a toddler emergency that needed tantrum intervention. doctorjeff 1/18/11 7:58 PM RT @L_Hilt: We need cohesive teams of educators, constantly learning from and bettering one another, to lead the way. #edchat tim_yocum 1/18/11 7:58 PM Phew! #edchat was a brain blast tonight. Thanks everyone! Off to listen to Will Richardson http://bit.ly/K2WJp newfirewithin 1/18/11 7:58 PM @doctorjeff Absolutely! I've done this before. It's important to give guidance and support in prep, but so rewarding. #edchat MissShuganah 1/18/11 7:58 PM Kid Q could have received tutoring in Math. & why isn't she? Is it because I am a deadbeat parent? #edchat drtimony 1/18/11 7:58 PM @graingered You mean (lowercase) expertise. (uppercase) Expertise is very specific. ;') #edchat rjwassink 1/18/11 7:58 PM Students really need to learn themselves. What are their passions, learning styles, etc. Thats what I was never given time to study. #edchat mayapooka 1/18/11 7:59 PM RT @tomwhitby: We need to have all educators recognize that they need to continue to learn their profession. Better learners make better teachers! #edchat

mbteach 1/18/11 7:59 PM Great #edchat tonight! Let's all remember that we have influence to make changes in our classrooms & our schools. padgets 1/18/11 wikispaces :) 7:59 PM @dobrien917 #edchat go to

kylepace 1/18/11 7:59 PM Thanks all for a great #edchat tonight! I always appreciate learning from so many. TheGilch 1/18/11 7:59 PM RT @L_Hilt: We need cohesive teams of educators, constantly learning from and bettering one another, to lead the way. #edchat elonahartjes 1/18/11 7:59 PM 99% of schools in Canada have computers and 90% are connected to internet student mean ratio 5 students to 1 computer #edchat ARJLMS #edchat 1/18/11 7:59 PM big brother state man #ss chat

dobrien917 1/18/11 7:59 PM @gdahlby I started a ning for my parents at my school. Unfortunately the school didn't want it to continue when ning policy changed. #edchat JenOwen 1/18/11 7:59 PM @stumpteacher Many are not allowed to change/adapt classrooms. Every minute = scripted. Deviation = termination. #edchat CoachGinsburg 1/18/11 7:59 PM @kylepace @teachernz Yes 2 collaboration. Too often teachers commiserate rather than collaborate #edchat MissLadyCaz 1/18/11 7:59 PM @andreamiller20 Totally agree, we want inspiring people, not solely high academic achievers - our kids aren't. #edchat doctorjeff 1/18/11 7:59 PM RT @TheTeacherGeek: Continue to reach out to colleagues who are reluctant to collaborate. Eventually you will win someone over. #edchat brophycat 1/18/11 7:59 PM teaching my night student AKA my husband-fill out profile info and upload a pic to his sports officiating website #edchat #lifelonglearner MissShuganah 1/18/11 7:59 PM I had no way to pick Kid Q up from an after school program and take care of Kid O at the same time. #edchat #novillage

djgallagher 1/18/11 7:59 PM Not enough that's the problem@gdahlby How often do your teachers meet w/ parents and community ? #edchat doctorjeff 1/18/11 7:59 PM RT @elonahartjes: research suggests 39% of teachers have skills 2 use ICTs in classroom but most only do so once a week - #edchat tomwhitby 1/18/11 7:59 PM Thanks for another #Edchat @web20classroom @kylepace @mbteach @ShellTerrell @ #edchat tomwhitby 1/18/11 7:59 PM Thanks for another #Edchat @web20classroom @kylepace @mbteach @ShellTerrell @ #edchat lori_nelson 1/18/11 too. #edchat 7:59 PM @EngTeachChick Sadly, that happens

DrMoloney 1/18/11 8:00 PM RT @EdReformPR: Reality Program: "So, U Think U Can Teach?" Contestants given 30 stdnts, 40 min & scripted lesson. Best test scores win. #edreform #edchat teachwatts 1/18/11 8:00 PM loving #edchat this morning from India, findng more people to share with, thanks! milenagarg 1/18/11 missed #edchat tonight 8:00 PM ready for #leadershipchat sorry I

McGough3R 1/18/11 8:00 PM @TeacherInMe I think that the problem is that teacher's would have 2 teach "soft-skills," and they aren't on the test. So sad! #edchat OKCAmanda 1/18/11 8:00 PM RT @mbteach: Great #edchat tonight! Let's all remember that we have influence to make changes in our classrooms & our schools. mzayfert 1/18/11 8:00 PM @mr_johansson teachers NYC teachers teach for 41/2 hrs/day & feel burdened & underpaid so recycling lessons is justified to them #edchat djgallagher 1/18/11 8:00 PM Thanks #edchat

Heidi_Ayala 1/18/11 8:00 PM RT @mzayfert: what if we changed grades to levels? Encourage students to reach higher levels, like video gaming #edchat gregoryshea 1/18/11 8:00 PM RT @elonahartjes: 99% of schools in Canada have computers and 90% are connected to internet student mean ratio 5 students to 1 computer #edchat

deb_norton 1/18/11 8:00 PM Top 25 Web 2.0 Sites for Education http://bit.ly/i7IM3U Yeah! I've use several and know most! #edchat #elemchat carolgau 1/18/11 8:00 PM Thanks for another engaging #edchat!

web20classroom 1/18/11 8:00 PM Remember to Like #edchat On Facebook http://on.fb.me/cVWhSG And check out the EDU PLN for more conversation: http://bit.ly/g4kDBc briankotts 1/18/11 8:00 PM [Infographic] Online Education http://bit.ly/eE6fJd /via @mcleod #edchat #edtech tamurray 1/18/11 8:00 PM RT @mbteach: Great #edchat tonight! Let's all remember that we have influence to make changes in our classrooms & our schools. bobneuf 1/18/11 8:00 PM RT @davidwees: My belief is that there is NO one innovation that will work for every community of learners. #edchat TheTeacherGeek 1/18/11 8:00 PM @isteconnects I understand! Perhaps the next #edchat could be on tantrum interventions, LOL! lookforsun 1/18/11 8:00 PM RT @CoachGinsburg: @doctorjeff Good pt about teacher owning classroom! Show me a controlling teacher, and I'll show you a classroom out of control. #edchat L_Hilt 1/18/11 8:01 PM RT @tomwhitby: RT @web20classroom: Now that #edchat is over head over to Elluminate and hear @willrich45! http://bit.ly/dJKyiZ HPTeachExchange 1/18/11 8:01 PM Trouble w/ your wireless? Laptop wireless troubleshooting guide http://budurl.com/jltq #edchat #k12 Mr_Johansson1/18/11 8:01 PM @mzayfert Yikes - I'm at school from 6 AM - 3 PM daily - constantly creating new stuff... #edchat 21stprincipal 1/18/11 8:01 PM @QueensTeacher1 Yes they do that. You find what works in your classroom. You find what engages your students. #edchat marynabadenhors 1/18/11 8:01 PM Remember to Like #edchat On Facebook http://on.fb.me/cVWhSG & check out the EDU PLN for more convo: http://bit.ly/g4kDBc via @web20classroom Grad_BrainSMART along! #edchat 1/18/11 8:01 PM @kylepace I had fun reading

tomwhitby 1/18/11 8:01 PM RT @web20classroom: Now that #edchat is over head over to Elluminate and hear @willrich45! http://bit.ly/dJKyiZ jonbergmann 1/18/11 8:01 PM @teachwatts Also watch http://youtu.be/2H4RkudFzlc to see more about the flipped class #edchat bruno_cesar82 1/18/11 8:01 PM @flavia_matias hey Flavia! Are u Brazilian as well? Where from? Nice having you on #edchat rjwassink #edchat 1/18/11 8:01 PM have a good one, y'all. Off to the gym...

web20classroom 1/18/11 8:01 PM Now that #edchat is over head over to Elluminate and hear @willrich45! http://bit.ly/dJKyiZ blairteach 1/18/11 8:02 PM Got guilted into helping hubby strip wall paper tonight so I missed #edchat. Now listening to @willrich45 http://tr.im/futureofed becky7274 1/18/11 8:02 PM RT @tomwhitby: RT @web20classroom: Now that #edchat is over head over to Elluminate and hear @willrich45! http://bit.ly/dJKyiZ mrsblanchetnet 1/18/11 8:02 PM RT @mr_johansson: I only had 3 takers for my poll about who actually teaches in K-12 classrooms... hmmm? #edchat #sayitaintso doctorjeff 1/18/11 8:02 PM RT @jonbergmann: Until the teacher stops "lecturing" and becomes a facilitator instead of diseminator, reform won't happen #edchat elateachgeek 1/18/11 8:02 PM RT @EngTeachChick: RT @CoachGinsburg: When kid asks for help, I ask"where are your notes?" No notes, no help. ... I say I love you too much to help. #edchat andreamiller20 1/18/11 8:02 PM @tomwhitby R thr a lot of Ts out thr who aren't attending pd? I have 1-2 hrs/wk Plus Ts have req #of pd hrs. to keep certificate #edchat graingered 1/18/11 8:02 PM @DrTimony Cheers. I mean2 say those who feel need2 tell us theyre experts likely arent owing2 their POV that they "ultimately" know #edchat Mr_Johansson1/18/11 8:02 PM I only had 3 takers for my poll about who actually teaches in K-12 classrooms... hmmm? #edchat #sayitaintso mrsblanchetnet 1/18/11 8:02 PM great #edchat as always

lasic 1/18/11 8:02 PM Let's not 'improve' education before examining some core beliefs about it. Start with (y)our own & be tough #edchat NancyW 1/18/11 8:02 PM @Melissa_Spencer I know many innovative librarians who use parts of their budget to pay for subs to allow time for collaboration. #edchat DrMoloney 1/18/11 8:02 PM Reality Program: "So, U Think U Can Teach?" Contestants given 30 stdnts, 40 min & scripted lesson. Best test scores win. #edreform #edchat MissShuganah 1/18/11 8:02 PM I don't need parent accountability. I am already my own worst critic. #edchat reasoningmind 1/18/11 8:02 PM RT @okcamanda RT @mbteach: Great #edchat tonight! Let's all remember that we have influence to make changes in our classrooms & our schools. 21stprincipal 1/18/11 all! 8:02 PM Great #edchat this evening. Thanks to #edchat Thank you all for the

bruno_cesar82 1/18/11 8:02 PM great convo!! Inspiring minds here!

gdahlby 1/18/11 8:02 PM Boxes..seems like some are still building and living/working in boxes. and silos . :>( #edchat padgets 1/18/11 8:03 PM Thanks #edchat :)

SouthernFriedEd 1/18/11 8:03 PM RT @MissShuganah: I don't need parent accountability. I am already my own worst critic. #edchat TeacherInMe 1/18/11 8:03 PM RT @McGough3R I think that the problem is that teacher's would have 2 teach "soft-skills," and they aren't on the test. So sad! #edchat doctorjeff 1/18/11 8:03 PM If u missed: Power of Twitter for Education @HuffPost: http://huff.to/dgPwa2 #edchat Jepson 1/18/11 8:03 PM RT @joe_bower: Bad Teachers Cause Student Failure? Great Doctors Have Patients Who Die. http://bit.ly/hWOlQi #abed #abfuture #edchat mzayfert 1/18/11 8:03 PM @Heidi_Ayala my idea would be levels not grades by age, kind of new age #montessori #edchat McGough3R 1/18/11 nightmare! #edchat 8:03 PM @DrMoloney This is my worst

andycinek 1/18/11 good discourse tonight.

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Great #edchat It has been a while, but

lookforsun 1/18/11 8:04 PM @mzayfert #edchat Levels works for some curriculum goals, collaboration for others. tweetpmo 1/18/11 8:04 PM RT @davidwees: I'm okay with just about anyone throwing ideas on how to improve education, just don't pretend to be an expert. #edchat mathchat 1/18/11 8:04 PM Don't forget to vote for this week's #mathchat: http://bit.ly/c9KL7s #ukedchat #edchat #elemchat #scichat #ntchat #gtchat doctorjeff 1/18/11 8:04 PM Daddy, when I grow up I want to be a #teacher:) The Art of Teaching @HuffPost http://huff.to/AWvTw #edchat chrishosea 1/18/11 8:04 PM @TeachPaperless Yes! But how understand "system" so as to discover exit door to Grover's "outside box" room? Folks agree it's nice. #edchat monk51295 1/18/11 8:04 PM RT @davidwees: NO 1 innov that will work for every community #edchat -what if only stdard is process of learning? per choice the rest? tomwhitby 1/18/11 8:05 PM @andreamiller20 I have no #s but if I based on comments from social media discussions I would say not enough PD is taught or taken.#edchat lookforsun 1/18/11 8:05 PM @tomwhitby @mbteach #edchat content, skills, concepts and process - a balance of all. WackJacq 1/18/11 8:05 PM @wd_humphrey Exactly-->student led inquiry ... IMHO many students need role-model learners to emulate (a gradual release model) #edchat TeacherInMe 1/18/11 8:05 PM @DrTimony Too bad not all teachers are like you! Fulfilling that expectation! #edchat danielbeylerian 1/18/11 8:05 PM RT @andywalker Show off yr tech knowledge/expertise by answering ppl's questions @ butterscotch.com Q&A http://bit.ly/eey7ku #edtech #edchat debbiefuco 1/18/11 8:06 PM http://usat.ly/ii1CMS #edchat connection between small learning gains in first 2 years of college and highstakes testing and test prep?

mrsblanchetnet 1/18/11 8:06 PM #edchat shoutout!!! The Remarkable Power of Twitter: A Water Cooler for the 21st Century http://t.co/1LpqGGA via @huffingtonpost teachwatts 1/18/11 8:06 PM @jonbergmann thanks 4 another great vid on the fliiped classroom, same ideas I am trying to implement http://youtu.be/2H4RkudFzlc #edchat InvasiveNotes 1/18/11 8:06 PM RT @doctorjeff: If u missed: Power of Twitter for Education @HuffPost: http://huff.to/dgPwa2 #edchat huebnerk 1/18/11 8:06 PM Special Education students 2nd blog entitled, "I Have a Dream" http://bit.ly/idOvwy They loved comments last time! #edchat #classblogs artstude 1/18/11 8:07 PM RT @web20classroom: Remember to Like #edchat On Facebook http://on.fb.me/cVWhSG And check out the EDU PLN for more conversation: http://bit.ly/g4kDBc DahlD 1/18/11 8:07 PM RT @Grad_BrainSMART: Obtaining automaticity n any skill is not as much about intellect as the amount of and type of practice. READ! #edchat #elemchat thetrough 1/18/11 8:07 PM RT @pete_rodrigues: edreform for me is about changing minds in my building away from the stuff that doesnt benefit kids. anything but simple. #edchat Grad_BrainSMART 1/18/11 8:07 PM Obtaining automaticity n any skill is not as much about intellect as the amount of and type of practice. READ! #edchat #elemchat cuevash 1/18/11 8:08 PM A gr8 admin is one who makes you feel like they are working w u rather than 4 them. It fosters trust and respect. #edchat librario868 1/18/11 8:08 PM RT @mrsblanchetnet: #edchat shoutout!!! The Remarkable Power of Twitter: A Water Cooler for the 21st Century http://t.co/1LpqGGA via @huffingtonpost drtimony 1/18/11 8:08 PM Yes. RT @Grad_BrainSMART: Obtaining automaticity n any skill is not as much about intellect as the amount of and type of practice. #edchat tkraz 1/18/11 8:08 PM RT @digitalnative: RT @web20classroom: Now that #edchat is over head over to Elluminate and hear @willrich45! http://bit.ly/dJKyiZ ShellTerrell 1/18/11 8:08 PM Middle School Students Taking Pride in STEM Innovations (Guest Blogger) http://bit.ly/i6Kmb7 #Edchat

drtimony 1/18/11 8:09 PM @teacherinme ha. We all need to push and be pushed. Maintain high standards--co-workers are way better than pals any day. #edchat andreamiller20 1/18/11 8:09 PM @tomwhitby I'd love to talk more w you about this. I'm only in my 8th yr - pd has always been required but hasn't been the best. #edchat PLANETPALS 1/18/11 8:09 PM RT @PLANETPALS: Tolerance Peace Love- Ideas for Change! http://plpls.com/i9NpaP #edchat #kids #Ece #HomeEd #moms #family coolcatteacher 1/18/11 8:09 PM RT @web20classroom: Now that #edchat is over head over to Elluminate and hear @willrich45! http://bit.ly/dJKyiZ PLANETPALS 1/18/11 8:10 PM 2011 - the UN year of the forest-Read all about it! http://plpls.com/eK0bnK #ecomonday #edchat #homed #tt #homeschool cjrock 1/18/11 8:10 PM RT @BrazenCareerist Do you participate in Twitter chats? Which ones? | used 2 do #latism & #edchat; now sched cnflicts. #OMCru meditations. msstewart 1/18/11 8:10 PM So true! RT @cuevash: Great admin makes you feel like they are working with you rather than for them, fosters trust & respect. #edchat tomwhitby 1/18/11 8:11 PM @andreamiller20 Tchers required to take PD need more of a choice in what is offered B/c they need to determine how they will use it. #edchat swalker2 1/18/11 8:11 PM RT @tomwhitby: We need teachers to view themselves as mentors rather than keepers and distributors of content. #Edchat tim_yocum 1/18/11 8:11 PM RT @mbteach: Great #edchat tonight! Let's all remember that we have influence to make changes in our classrooms & our schools. pinellas1 1/18/11 8:11 PM RT @becky7274: Good admin are crucial to engaging teachers and fostering an environment where we are free to take risks #edchat michellek107 1/18/11 8:11 PM Rats. I missed it again. :-( RT @andycinek: Great #edchat It has been a while, but good discourse tonight.

jonbergmann 1/18/11 8:12 PM @doctorjeff Chk out vids of how we take the tchr from the front of the room http://youtu.be/2H4RkudFzlc http://youtu.be/2H4RkudFzlc #edchat justintarte 1/18/11 8:12 PM 10 Reasons to Get Educators Blogging: http://bit.ly/h6BJIs #edchat #cpchat #ntchat #ecosys ileducprof 1/18/11 8:12 PM RT @ShellTerrell: Middle School Students Taking Pride in STEM Innovations (Guest Blogger) http://bit.ly/i6Kmb7 #Edchat iDeanaD 1/18/11 8:13 PM RT @ShellTerrell: Middle School Students Taking Pride in STEM Innovations (Guest Blogger) http://bit.ly/i6Kmb7 #Edchat mprcampbell 1/18/11 8:13 PM RT @davidwees: In the total history of education, grades are a "recent" innovation & should be dropped. See http://is.gd/sWRXU8 #edchat SouthernFriedEd 1/18/11 8:13 PM Why Students Fall Behind on History- http://tinyurl.com/6ybq8tf More to follow on the blog. #education #history #edchat andreamiller20 1/18/11 8:13 PM @tomwhitby Yes, I agree. Most of the PD provided is not differentiated by teacher need - it's one size fits all. #edchat rushtheiceberg 1/18/11 8:14 PM I love this type of stuff! Apple icon secrets: hidden meanings hiding in plain sight | Electricpig http://bit.ly/eNaPR7 #edchat undericebergs 1/18/11 8:14 PM I love this type of stuff! Apple icon secrets: hidden meanings hiding in plain sight | Electricpig http://bit.ly/eNaPR7 #edchat tim_yocum 1/18/11 8:14 PM RT @tomwhitby: all educators need to recognize they need 2 continue 2 learn their profession. Better learners make better teachers! #edchat MrSimpson07 1/18/11 8:14 PM RT @andreamiller20:Yes, I agree. Most of the PD provided is not differentiated by teacher need - it's one size fits all. #edchat <=AGREE MarkMiyashita 1/18/11 8:15 PM @jonbergmann I like the idea of serving as a facilitator, but see 2 many taking easy way out or not fully delving into material. #edchat

WackJacq 1/18/11 8:15 PM @reasoningmind "No 1 is an exprt on everything." Studnts C me learn everyday. When I dont know, I tell them so, & discovr it w them. #edchat andreamiller20 1/18/11 8:15 PM @tomwhitby Ts are constantly being trained-"new" ways to teach - new tools to use - new forms to fill out - new ways to conduct mtgs #edchat TeacherInMe 1/18/11 8:15 PM RT @swalker2 @tomwhitby: We need teachers to view themselves as mentors rather than keepers and distributors of content. #Edchat andreamiller20 1/18/11 8:16 PM @tomwhitby That's not the RIGHT kind of PD - schools need pd committees of teachers to select ACTUAL PD - not just "new" stuff #edchat aroncampbell24 1/18/11 8:16 PM Need ideas/resources 4 ppt re.Personalized Learning and 21st C Tech...putting presentation together for staff inservice #cpchat #edchat pinellas1 1/18/11 8:16 PM RT @dobrien917: Love that! RT @tim_leister: #edchat Quote: "Change is inevitable, Growth is optional" continues to motivate me. cbell619 1/18/11 classrooms"? #edchat 8:16 PM @davidwees shouldn't that be "many

nicoletomaselli 1/18/11 8:17 PM need a tutor? you could turn to skype! http://bit.ly/i2M3qd #edchat thanks @willrich45! metigirl 1/18/11 8:17 PM RT @tomwhitby: We need to have all educators recognize that they need to continue to learn their profession. Better learners make better teachers! #edchat TeacherInMe 1/18/11 8:18 PM RT @tomwhitby: We need to have all educators recognize that they need to continue to learn their profession. Better learners make better teachers! #edchat MarkMiyashita 1/18/11 8:18 PM @jonbergmann current group of students don't interact w/each other. When given "guided freedom" resulting product has been weak. #edchat johnnybevacqua 1/18/11 8:18 PM RT @WackJacq: We teach students! not content...content is ubiquitous! Look around!!! #edchat WackJacq 1/18/11 8:18 PM RT @Grad_BrainSMART: Coaching students learning instead of direct instruction. #edchat

andreamiller20 1/18/11 8:18 PM @tomwhitby Ts pay could be based on the amount of pd the teachers choose to participate - state could create a list of courses #edchat TeacherInMe 1/18/11 8:18 PM RT @WackJacq: @reasoningmind "No 1 is an exprt on everything." Studnts C me learn everyday. When I dont know, I tell them so, & discovr it w them. #edchat justintarte 1/18/11 8:19 PM Great list! "@21stprincipal: Ten Top Technology Tools for Teachers http://bit.ly/evdyVL" #edchat #edtech #ntchat joe_bower 1/18/11 8:19 PM Assessments used as high stakes accountability clubs are at best unreliable and at worst destructive #abed #abfuture #edchat klthompson08 1/18/11 8:19 PM RT @kyraocity: RT @doctorjeff: Education denied: when learning content trumps critical thinking. #edchat aroncampbell24 1/18/11 8:19 PM RT @kylepace: RT @AngelaMaiers: We keep talking about the skills kids need- what r the skills we need to b modeling to ensure they get exposure? #edchat andreamiller20 1/18/11 8:20 PM Thanks to all for a great #edchat Now to work on my own professional development - Master's in Instructional Technology! TParks 1/18/11 8:20 PM RT @tomwhitby: We will not reach "out of the box" innovation unless we promote in students and teachers the ability to use out of the box thinking. #Edchat TeacherInMe 1/18/11 8:20 PM RT @justintarte: Great list! "@21stprincipal: Ten Top Technology Tools for Teachers http://bit.ly/evdyVL" #edchat #edtech #ntchat funcreativity 1/18/11 8:20 PM @aroncampbell24 Creative thinking. An important factor in a lot of personalised learning. Some ideas at http://creativitygames.net #edchat nicoletomaselli 1/18/11 8:21 PM take small teams [of teachers] from schools and connect them with teams from other school @willrich45 #edchat funcreativity 1/18/11 8:21 PM @MarkMiyashita @jonbergmann But is guided freedom not working because the tasks are not inspiring enough? #edchat funcreativity 1/18/11 8:22 PM @tomwhitby Agree completely regarding out of the box thinking. Think part of the problem is that it is hard to assess. #edchat

WackJacq 1/18/11 8:22 PM RT @jonbergmann: Until the teacher stops "lecturing" and becomes a facilitator instead of diseminator, reform won't happen #edchat #flipped Dwight_Carter 1/18/11 8:26 PM Why aren't you doing it? RT @justintarte: 10 Reasons to Get Educators Blogging: http://bit.ly/h6BJIs #edchat #cpchat #ntchat #ecosys gcarboni 1/18/11 8:27 PM @CoachB0066 difficult for teachers to accept or take on a leadership role. #edchat kmhmartin 1/18/11 8:27 PM RT @AngelaMaiers: We keep talking about the skills kids need- what r the skills we need to b modeling to ensure they get exposure? #edchat Think_teach 1/18/11 8:27 PM RT @tomwhitby: We need to have all educators recognize that they need to continue to learn their profession. Better learners make better teachers! #edchat kmhmartin 1/18/11 8:28 PM RT @djainslie: RT @ljhardin@EngTeachChick: If admin are evaluating me on technology, they should know technology. <yes all should model and use #edchat lookforsun 1/18/11 8:29 PM Back to business after #edchat tomorrow: place value, portfolios, reading, tech menu, correcting, reading Mosaic of Thought/Fig Pudding. Dwight_Carter 1/18/11 8:29 PM @gcarboni #edchat teachers lead in the classroom every day. They lead through serving their students. JohnHudson42 1/18/11 8:29 PM @justintarte: 10 Reasons to Get Educators Blogging: http://bit.ly/h6BJIs #edchat #cpchat #ntchat #ecosys Great reasons to get started! brianjohnweaver 1/18/11 8:30 PM RT @tomwhitby: We need teachers to view themselves as mentors rather than keepers and distributors of content. #Edchat pete_rodrigues 1/18/11 8:30 PM Wow #edchat was fast and furious tonight. Good stuff and thanks for challenging my thinking everyone! kmhmartin 1/18/11 8:30 PM RT @AngelaMaiers: The life of a true digital learner is crazy, messy, overwhelming, hard, unpredictable...does not fit in 3ring binder- must LIVE it #edchat LisaMilstead 1/18/11 8:31 PM RT @tomwhitby: We need to have all educators recognize that they need to continue to learn their profession. Better learners make better teachers! #edchat

debbie_birchett 1/18/11 8:31 PM RT @isteconnects: Portfolio assessments for students. Qualitative as well as quantitative assessment for teachers & admins #edchat kmhmartin 1/18/11 8:31 PM RT @tomwhitby: We need teachers to view themselves as mentors rather than keepers and distributors of content. #Edchat brophycat 1/18/11 8:31 PM RT @TheTeacherGeek: Continue to reach out to colleagues who are reluctant to collaborate. Eventually you will win someone over. #edchat WackJacq 1/18/11 8:32 PM RT @JenOwen: @stumpteacher Many R not allowd 2 change/adapt classroom. Every min = scripted. Deviation = termination. #edchat "sad but true" educatedxchange 1/18/11 8:32 PM First and second grade book reports and bank of mini-stories and comprehension questions: http://www.educatedexchange.com/topic/13 #edchat nicoletomaselli 1/18/11 8:33 PM in the future we will be hiring learners [as teachers] not knowers @willrich45 #edchat #nhste elonahartjes 1/18/11 8:33 PM RT @cybraryman1: We should not forget "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." #edchat beachcat11 1/18/11 8:33 PM @cybraryman1 Thanks is to all of YOU for #edchat tonight -- listening reflecting, deep contemplation for me: change, resistance, momentum... allen_fisher 1/18/11 8:33 PM RT @doctorjeff: Education denied: when testing rules; when testing is about what they've memorized; when testing makes learning ...suck. #edchat newfirewithin 1/18/11 8:33 PM RT @jonbergmann: Until the teacher stops "lecturing" and becomes a facilitator instead of diseminator, reform won't happen #edchat #flipped hhersey03 1/18/11 8:34 PM RT @nicoletomaselli: "in the future we will be hiring learners [as teachers] not knowers" @willrich45 #edchat #nhste Think_teach 1/18/11 8:34 PM More on Blended Learning...can students gain more via multi-modal approach with heavy OnLine component? #edchat #computersaregood

lanecindy1234 1/18/11 8:34 PM RT @DrMoloney: Reality Program: "So, U Think U Can Teach?" Contestants given 30 stdnts, 40 min & scripted lesson. Best test scores win. #edreform #edchat McGough3R 1/18/11 8:34 PM RT @AngelaMaiers: The life of a true digital learner is crazy, messy, overwhelming, hard, unpredictable...does not fit in 3ring binder- must LIVE it #edchat eTextPrep 1/18/11 8:34 PM @SouthernFriedEd a good way to stay ahead of the game is to enroll in our AP History SMS prep course. #edchat WackJacq 1/18/11 8:34 PM RT @OKCAmanda: RT @mbteach: gr8 #edchat 2nite! Let's all remember: We have influence 2 make changes in R classrooms & R schools. #edrform tim_yocum 1/18/11 8:35 PM RT @nicoletomaselli: "in the future we will be hiring learners [as teachers] not knowers" @willrich45 #edchat #nhste kmhmartin 1/18/11 8:36 PM RT @whatedsaid: The biggest question is how to move all of this out of #edchat into schools? smoky_stu 1/18/11 8:36 PM http://j.mp/hj8TBR ~ a Wiki for Teachers ~ #edtech #edchat #yam #teachers #education kmhmartin 1/18/11 8:37 PM RT @tomwhitby: We need to have all educators recognize that they need to continue to learn their profession. Better learners make better teachers! #edchat dtonksOHSU 1/18/11 8:38 PM RT @CoachGinsburg kid asks for help, I ask"where are your notes?" No notes, no help. mad?I say I love you too much to help. #edchat #openhs huebner1 1/18/11 8:38 PM RT @huebnerk: Special Education students 2nd blog entitled, "I Have a Dream" http://bit.ly/idOvwy They loved comments last time! #edchat #classblogs TeachPaperless 1/18/11 8:38 PM RT @teachpaperless: 10 Reasons to Have a Paperless Classroom: new post by @stevekatz on TeachPaperless http://ht.ly/3GaXD #edchat #edtech TeachPaperless 1/18/11 8:38 PM 10 Reasons to Have a Paperless Classroom: new post by @stevekatz on TeachPaperless http://ht.ly/3GaXD #edchat #edtech kmhmartin 1/18/11 8:38 PM RT @djainslie: WANTED: teachers who take risks, admin who support risks, parents who see value of risks, then we will c gr8 progress #edchat

McGough3R 1/18/11 8:38 PM @whatedsaid We all stay connected and bring more of our colleagues into our Personal Learning Communities online. #edchat kmhmartin 1/18/11 8:39 PM RT @doctorjeff: @tomwhitby we also need teachers to recognize and embrace that they are a guiding light for student exploration. #edchat WackJacq 1/18/11 8:39 PM RT @jonbergmann: @teachwatts Please watch--> http://youtu.be/2H4RkudFzlc 2 C more abt the #flipped class #edchat #edtech #blendedchat McGough3R 1/18/11 8:39 PM @AngelaMaiers It is sometimes difficult to teach learners how to live within the mess that is digital learning. #edchat kmhmartin 1/18/11 8:39 PM RT @OKCAmanda: @21stprincipal schedules are there to make schools convenient for adults. #edchat Absolutely! akascholar 1/18/11 8:40 PM @McGough3R absolutely! But students should be committed enough to want to learn more. And then the magic happens! #edchat kmhmartin 1/18/11 8:40 PM RT @tomwhitby: We will not reach "out of the box" innovation unless we promote in students and teachers the ability to use out of the box thinking. #Edchat akascholar 1/18/11 learning here :) #edchat 8:41 PM @kmhmartin very true! Life long

akascholar 1/18/11 8:41 PM RT @tomwhitby: We need to have all educators recognize that they need to continue to learn their profession. Better learners make better teachers! #edchat kmhmartin 1/18/11 8:41 PM RT @doctorjeff: There are fundamental principles I think. E.g., it is fundamentally the student's classroom not the teacher's. #edchat scimann 1/18/11 8:41 PM Looking forward to use #skype in the #classroom,my jr high kids can chat with div I and II kids in our school Other ideas? #edchat #edtech akascholar 1/18/11 8:41 PM RT @TeachPaperless: RT @teachpaperless: 10 Reasons to Have a Paperless Classroom: new post by @stevekatz on TeachPaperless http://ht.ly/3GaXD #edchat #edtech akascholar 1/18/11 8:42 PM committed and engaged #edchat @Think_teach yes, if they are

lesleywilton 1/18/11 8:42 PM Listening to Will Richardson on Future of Education in Classroom 2.0 Elluminate http://tr.im/futureofed #edchat cindymariej 1/18/11 8:43 PM RT @cybraryman1 We should not forget "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." #edchat jakramer2 1/18/11 8:44 PM Have time to blog tonight, but don't know what to blog about... Suggestions??? #edchat flavia_matias 1/18/11 #edchat akascholar 1/18/11 8:44 PM 8:44 PM @shelleypa Thanks for the RT! @andreamiller20 good luck! #edchat

WackJacq 1/18/11 8:45 PM RT @jonbergmann: #blended classrooms: Video Demo 1: http://youtu.be/2H4RkudFzlc Video Demo 2: http://youtu.be/2H4RkudFzlc #edchat 4thGrdTeach 1/18/11 8:45 PM http://ow.ly/3Gb88 #edchat #cpchat My class is not crazy

TeachPaperless 1/18/11 8:45 PM Hey PLN, help out a teacher new to twitter: RT @mkang11: Is there a group/hashtag that math educators can follow? #edchat akascholar 1/18/11 questions tonight 8:45 PM @tomwhitby very thoughtful #edchat

jmalphy 1/18/11 8:47 PM RT @TeachPaperless: RT @teachpaperless: 10 Reasons to Have a Paperless Classroom: new post by @stevekatz on TeachPaperless http://ht.ly/3GaXD #edchat #edtech McGough3R 1/18/11 8:48 PM in your curriculum. #edchat @jakramer2 Blog about a "bright spot"

teachersharetp 1/18/11 8:48 PM RT @web20classroom: RT @tomwhitby: We need teachers to view themselves as mentors rather than keepers and distributors of content. #Edchat ardithcello 1/18/11 8:48 PM Q: Despite poss statistical flaws, should teacher names & student achievement data be made public? http://shr.gd/gisd0Q #GOODasks #edchat funcreativity 1/18/11 8:49 PM I rather my students create something mediocre but fully understand it than something stellar but no idea how they did it #edchat

tomwhitby 1/18/11 8:50 PM @akascholar As good as they were tonight, I always feel it's a drop in the bucket. #edchat ImagineLearning 1/18/11 8:50 PM New Post: Portraying students with disabilities in childrens books: A call for change? http://bit.ly/eG4nk5 #edchat #edu joevans 1/18/11 8:50 PM RT @shellterrell: RT @cybraryman1: my AUP (Acceptable Use Policy) page: http://bit.ly/9ViT9i #edchat #edtech JulieEdTech 1/18/11 8:50 PM Engage learners and build motivation by encouraging participation and capitalizing on their life experiences. #ASTD #training #edchat fastforword 1/18/11 8:50 PM Unlocking the Potential of English Language Learners http://bit.ly/hWdCrm [BLOG] #ell #edchat itncsu 1/18/11 8:51 PM RT @web20classroom: RT @tomwhitby: We need teachers to view themselves as mentors rather than keepers and distributors of content. #Edchat TeachPaperless 1/18/11 8:51 PM teachers http://tinyurl.com/5tnzzap #edchat RT @misstcher: On the role of

kmhmartin 1/18/11 8:51 PM RT @kylepace: RT @L_Hilt: We need cohesive teams of educators, constantly learning from and bettering one another, to lead the way. #edchat TeachPaperless 1/18/11 8:52 PM RT @lorisolomon____ The elusive skill of screw up avoidance: http://teachinginternx.blogspot.com/ #edchat KristenWray 1/18/11 8:52 PM RT @TheTeacherGeek: Continue to reach out to colleagues who are reluctant to collaborate. Eventually you will win someone over. #edchat TeachPaperless 1/18/11 8:53 PM Another post from a new teacher: RT @kings_are_best: What do we want from education? http://tinyurl.com/4dzh6gm #edchat melissad03121/18/11 8:53 PM RT @TeachPaperless: Think outside the "system"; everyone innovative in every other profession has. #edchat TeachPaperless 1/18/11 8:53 PM Post from a new teacher: RT @mkang11: What I think about the new form of education: http://tinyurl.com/6bwksxv #edchat drtimony 1/18/11 8:54 PM Is there a trick to setting up a posterous site on cpanel? Thx #edtech #edchat

tomwhitby 1/18/11 8:54 PM My latest Post an inside view of a Educational Blog Interview: "From One Blog To Another" http://bit.ly/hngrUY #Edchat Thanks2Teachers 1/18/11 8:55 PM RT @eliza_peterson: RT @Thanks2Teachers: A Giant Step Forward! RT @inspired_clsrm Make it Work (School Arts Int) http://nblo.gs/d8Yqr #edchat #elemchat #artsed TheRealBruce_L 1/18/11 8:55 PM RT @WackJacq: We need to redefine the terms: mentors instead of teachers, leaders of learners instead of administrators...#edchat smitha834 1/18/11 8:55 PM @micwalker Thanks - wish I had your skill w/getting colleagues in my district on #edchat it's some of the best prof. development out there SheilaSpeaking 1/18/11 8:56 PM RT @lornacost: A message of Hope - Dr. Debbie Pushor/Parents as Partners recorded show. http://bit.ly/hbRUy2 #edchat #ptchat #cpchat #parents kmhmartin 1/18/11 8:56 PM RT @doctorjeff: Education denied: when learning content trumps critical thinking. #edchat Akevy613 1/18/11 8:56 PM RT @kylepace: RT @L_Hilt: We need cohesive teams of educators, constantly learning from and bettering one another, to lead the way. #edchat dpontefract 1/18/11 8:56 PM Has anyone viewed a screening of 'Race to Nowhere' http://www.racetonowhere.com/home #edchat #lrnchat Akevy613 1/18/11 8:56 PM RT @web20classroom: RT @tomwhitby: We need teachers to view themselves as mentors rather than keepers and distributors of content. #Edchat kmhmartin 1/18/11 8:56 PM RT @cybraryman1: It's time to stop talking and start The Twitter Academy http://bit.ly/as9R0g #twitacad #edchat Sign me up! kmhmartin 1/18/11 8:57 PM RT @doctorjeff: Here's a thought, let students teach & lead classes w guidance. Until u teach you really don't know what you don't know. #edchat jheil65 1/18/11 8:57 PM @dpontefract I have views it twice. . .well worth watching for parents, teachers, and kids!! #edchat Gabewarner 1/18/11 8:57 PM RT @plugusin: Really funny bit translating eduspeak for policymakers: http://bit.ly/fEVabc #edpolicy #edreform #edchat

Akevy613 1/18/11 8:57 PM RT @tomwhitby: We need to have all educators recognize that they need to continue to learn their profession. Better learners make better teachers! #edchat cbmcleod 1/18/11 8:59 PM RT @tomwhitby: We need teachers to view themselves as mentors rather than keepers and distributors of content. #Edchat bcluwlib 1/18/11 9:00 PM @cybraryman1 I would agree. #edchat

huebnerk 1/18/11 9:01 PM My Special Education students has 2nd blog entitled, "I Have a Dream" http://bit.ly/idOvwy They loved comments last time! #edchat #classblog bonniebird 1/18/11 9:01 PM Very busy day- I missed both #edchat opportunities. Hope to get the link to view later. Productive day. More people ready for Open Office. cfanch 1/18/11 9:01 PM RT @tomwhitby: We will not reach "out of the box" innovation unless we promote the ability to use out of the box thinking. #Edchat web20classroom 1/18/11 9:01 PM RT @TeachPaperless: 10 Reasons to Have a Paperless Classroom: new post by @stevekatz on TeachPaperless http://ht.ly/3GaXD #edchat #edtech jgbluedevil 1/18/11 9:02 PM RT @christal_t: Teacher learning is important ... but at the end of the day everyone needs to be accountable for their work. #edchat teachersharetp 1/18/11 9:02 PM RT @TeachPaperless: 10 Reasons to Have a Paperless Classroom: new post by @stevekatz on TeachPaperless http://ht.ly/3GaXD #edchat #edtech jgbluedevil 1/18/11 9:02 PM RT @GaryBrannigan: Teaching and assessment should go hand-in-hand for students and teachers. #edchat todd_beach 1/18/11 9:03 PM RT @GaryBrannigan: Teaching and assessment should go hand-in-hand for students and teachers. #edchat todd_beach 1/18/11 9:03 PM RT @christal_t: Teacher learning is important ... but at the end of the day everyone needs to be accountable for their work. #edchat cfanch 1/18/11 9:04 PM @tomwhitby missed #edchat but when I do I immediately search your stream. Once again some great, thoughtful, insightful, remarks. Thanks

jgbluedevil 1/18/11 9:04 PM RT @21stprincipal: If purpose is improving teaching, observation can't be a gotcha driveby. #edchat delta_dc 1/18/11 9:05 PM RT @tomwhitby: We need teachers to view themselves as mentors rather than keepers and distributors of content. #Edchat juglialoro 1/18/11 9:05 PM An effective, clear intro 2 PBL: Animated Video from Buck Institute| The Committ... - http://bit.ly/eBEyWP via @leecrockett #cpchat #edchat smartskills 1/18/11 9:05 PM RT @AngelaMaiers: Do teachers model creativity, problem solving, imagination, curiosity EVERYday for kids 2 emmulate? #edchat smartskills 1/18/11 9:05 PM RT @AngelaMaiers: The life of a true digital learner is crazy, messy, overwhelming, hard, unpredictable...does not fit in 3ring binder- must LIVE it #edchat EarlSamuelson 1/18/11 9:07 PM Samuelson Mathxp: Math 30P Trigonometric Identities proofs made #easy http://t.co/GPtmwPl #mathematics #maths #math #edchat #bced jgbluedevil 1/18/11 9:07 PM RT @RushaSams: Good instructional leaders know the value of observations - frequent, inclusive of all, & varied in time of day. #edchat smartskills 1/18/11 9:08 PM RT @AngelaMaiers: RT @peterflom: #edchat In Hebrew "to teach" is "to cause to learn" LOVE THAT! #edchat jgbluedevil 1/18/11 9:09 PM RT @ShellTerrell: This week let's make an aim to be more transparent & invite either colleagues, parents, or students to provide us with feedback #Edchat gr8decisions 1/18/11 9:10 PM RT @MoodleMcKean: Two pages of Twittertools for Teachers via @marynabadenhors http://bit.ly/cTmqCb and http://bit.ly/sd8k #edchat MissLadyCaz 1/18/11 9:11 PM Awesome blog post about standardisd testing in Reading & Writing. We have the tools we need! http://bit.ly/gcTvMx @InnovativeEdu #edchat sheila43 1/18/11 9:11 PM RT @EdReformPR: Reality Program: "So, U Think U Can Teach?" Contestants given 30 stdnts, 40 min & scripted lesson. Best test scores win. #edreform #edchat bonlao 1/18/11 9:12 PM RT @EdReformPR: Reality Program: "So, U Think U Can Teach?" Contestants given 30 stdnts, 40 min & scripted lesson. Best test scores win. #edreform #edchat

danielscib 1/18/11 9:12 PM New blog post: Dinner and a Lesson? Can we learn a language at the table? http://bit.ly/erN8xi #ellchat #edchat ilovealtoclef 1/18/11 9:12 PM RT @doctorjeff: Education denied: when testing rules; when testing is about what they've memorized; when testing makes learning ...suck. #edchat CarlSorvino 1/18/11 9:13 PM @AngelaMaiers Yea but #edchat and #leadershipchat aren't going to make you look as good ;) newfirewithin 1/18/11 9:13 PM I installed @seesmic Desktop (Windows) for #edchat tonight. Ugh- not a fan. I'll be sticking with @Hootsuite sheila43 1/18/11 9:13 PM RT @EdReformPR: New Reality Program: "Iron Educator" - Tchrs given 30 mins to cover 3 wks of content. Stdnts tested to determine winner. #edreform #edchat SNewco 1/18/11 9:13 PM RT @web20classroom: RT @TeachPaperless: 10 Reasons to Have a Paperless Classroom: new post by @stevekatz on TeachPaperless http://ht.ly/3GaXD #edchat #edtech AngelaMaiers 1/18/11 9:13 PM 1 hour of #edchat, 1 hour of #leadershipchat, 1 hour of working out...can u guess which one I am not thrilled about? kmhmartin 1/18/11 9:13 PM RT @web20classroom: RT @TeachPaperless: 10 Reasons to Have a Paperless Classroom: new post by @stevekatz on TeachPaperless http://ht.ly/3GaXD #edchat #edtech bonlao 1/18/11 9:13 PM RT @EdReformPR: New Reality program: "The Amazing Race (to the Top)" Teachers teach to the test in order to secure merit pay points. #edreform #edchat #rttt literallyready 1/18/11 9:14 PM RT @tomwhitby: We need teachers to view themselves as mentors rather than keepers and distributors of content. #Edchat isteconnects 1/18/11 9:14 PM @TheTeacherGeek Now that's an #edchat I could provide some great real world experience for SNewco 1/18/11 9:14 PM RT @tomwhitby: My latest Post an inside view of a Educational Blog Interview: "From One Blog To Another" http://bit.ly/hngrUY #Edchat shannoninottawa 1/18/11 9:14 PM sounds like a fun learning enviro! Let's Set the Record Straight http://bit.ly/ghwoGU via @4thGrdTeach #edchat

gilmorekendra 1/18/11 9:15 PM RT @web20classroom: 10 Reasons to Have a Paperless Classroom: new post by @stevekatz on TeachPaperless http://ht.ly/3GaXD #edchat #edtech missydow 1/18/11 9:15 PM Youngzine. A current events/news site aimed at kids. http://www.youngzine.com/ #edchat lovedrummin 1/18/11 9:15 PM RT @kmhmartin: RT @cybraryman1: It's time to stop talking and start The Twitter Academy http://bit.ly/as9R0g #twitacad #edchat Sign me up! TRGoodman 1/18/11 9:15 PM RT @web20classroom: RT @TeachPaperless: 10 Reasons to Have a Paperless Classroom: new post by @stevekatz on TeachPaperless http://ht.ly/3GaXD #edchat #edtech wbarboza 1/18/11 9:17 PM RT @web20classroom: RT @TeachPaperless: 10 Reasons to Have a Paperless Classroom: new post by @stevekatz on TeachPaperless http://ht.ly/3GaXD #edchat #edtech Thanks2Teachers 1/18/11 9:17 PM RT @huffpo Arianna Huffington: The President, Christina-Taylor Green, and the Real State of the Union http://huff.to/dP2ITS #edchat cpatselas 1/18/11 9:17 PM RT @missydow: Youngzine. A current events/news site aimed at kids. http://www.youngzine.com/ #edchat ShellTerrell 1/18/11 9:18 PM via @profesortbaker Connectivism & Connected Knowledge Course: Day 2 (#CCK11) http://bit.ly/h5BkoQ #edchat Blog4Edu 1/18/11 9:18 PM via @profesortbaker Connectivism & Connected Knowledge Course: Day 2 (#CCK11) http://bit.ly/h5BkoQ #edchat TedPugliese 1/18/11 9:19 PM Checking out #edchat Follow me!

literallyready 1/18/11 9:19 PM RT @tomwhitby Thr is as mch of a respnsblty 2 provde ongoin PD as thr is 2 take it.No Chioce it's the profession! #Edchat @loumatthews 742tech 1/18/11 9:21 PM RT @TeachPaperless: New Post by @Grzelak2010 on TeachPaperless: Facts & Myths re: Classroom iPads http://ht.ly/3G1Ue #edchat #edtech TedPugliese 1/18/11 9:21 PM @AngelaMaiers Working out? #edchat

byronmitchell 1/18/11 9:22 PM RT @AngelaMaiers: The life of a true digital learner is crazy, messy, overwhelming, hard, unpredictable...does not fit in 3ring binder- must LIVE it #edchat

bbp3 1/18/11 9:23 PM Amen. RT @web20classroom @tomwhitby: We need teachers to view themselves as mentors rather than keepers and distributors of content. #Edchat TedPugliese 1/18/11 9:26 PM #edchat I think every good teacher has always viewed herself as a mentor. This is not a new idea. zgporter 1/18/11 9:27 PM Threats from administration for looking for positions in other counties is never too uplifting. #edchat Jklig 1/18/11 9:27 PM RT @TeachPaperless: 10 Reasons to Have a Paperless Classroom: new post by @stevekatz on TeachPaperless http://ht.ly/3GaXD #edchat #edtech stumpteacher 1/18/11 9:27 PM Am I the only teacher out there have kids bring the dead alive with Crazy Talk? #edchat 2footgiraffe 1/18/11 9:27 PM 2 classes made a rap in an hour for fundraiser contest http://youtu.be/QkD2voErdxg ... http://youtu.be/v5Rwb8tSTEI #edchat anniemasch 1/18/11 9:28 PM RT @tomwhitby: We need to have all educators recognize that they need to continue to learn their profession. Better learners make better teachers! #edchat TedPugliese 1/18/11 9:30 PM #edchat We have been teaching and serving as mentors for hundreds of years. Change is vital, but let's not act like we never did anything. username date time status

khephir: 12:01 AM If We Want to Fix Education, Start at the Beginning - http://j.mp/gPIv5t [ #edchat #edreform #bced ] tomwhitby: 12:01 AM #Edchat What r specific exmpls of kids having control of their lrning? Is there a place for this " Learning) ryflinn: 12:01 AM Great edu games for K-5. http://www.abcya.com/ #kedu #edchat #ece mbteach: 12:01 AM Welcome to #edchat First off, is everyone clear on what Participatory Learning is? stumpteacher: 12:02 AM I think of participatory learning as self-directed learning http://bit.ly/dV5FjC Implies choice and student control of learning. #edchat stumpteacher: 12:02 AM clarify http://bit.ly/dV5FjC #edchat @mbteach Here is a post to help

reasoningmind: 12:02 AM #Edchat What r specific exmpls of kids having control of their lrning? Is there a place for this " Learning) DahlD: 12:02 AM #edchat @mbteach, no not completely.

cpaterso: 12:02 AM RT @cpaterso: Facing History and Ourselves: http://youtu.be/3oeada-ng8Y #edchat khephir: 12:02 AM When Passion Drives Instruction, No Child is Left Behind - http://j.mp/i1FxB7 [ #edchat #edreform#pedagogy #nclb #loveHE ] andreamiller20: 12:02 AM participatory learning looks different at different levels of ed - at elem lvl we use choice boards (multiple intelligences) #edchat WackJacq: 12:02 AM Participatory learning is unscripted #edchat

mgraffin: 12:02 AM @espanateacher Aaah. This is going to be interesting. We call it inquiry learning in Aust. Thanks. #edchat DahlD: 12:02 AM #edchat I put some students on contracts where they work at their own pace... is that it? makeafuture: 12:02 AM Hiring in BC Schools! Surrey School District, Secondary/Elementary French Immersion Teachershttp://bit.ly/fIC8fA #edchat #jobs Edu_Traveler: 12:02 AM @tomwhitby The Big Picture model does Participatory Learning like no one else I've seenwww.bigpicture.org #edchat andycinek: 12:02 AM Yes. We're doing it now #edchat

padgets: 12:03 AM #edchat Hi everyone! my name is Sharon and I am a HS science teacher, and yes I do participatory learning everyday, it is the best :) azjd: 12:03 AM C Like the idea of kids learning through community service projects. Applied problem solving. #edchat wagga: 12:03 AM users can co-construct through some form of computer generated system??? #edchat jamiebillingham: 12:03 AM RT @ktenkely: I love the creative play that Odosketch allows http://sketch.odopod.com #edchat#edtech

espanateacher: boards? #edchat

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@andreamiller20 What are choice

chadsansing: 12:04 AM #edchat choice can be embedded in a lot of learning tasks that aren't inquiry based, but? blairteach: 12:04 AM I will be absolutely SHOCKED if anyone participating in #edchat is not already a believer in the value of participatory learning. espanateacher: be a problem? #edchat 12:04 AM @WackJacq Can unscripted learning

hshawjr: 12:04 AM RT @blairteach: I will be absolutely SHOCKED if anyone participating in #edchat is not already a believer in the value of participatory learning. andreamiller20: 12:04 AM @DahlD Yes, we have choice boards, but some call them learning contracts - they diff learning, but Ss complete them independently #edchat MrsC_teach: 12:04 AM with guided activites? #edchat edtechsteve: 12:04 AM Would you use PL all the time or interspersed #ERROR!

chadsansing: 12:04 AM #edchat?every learning task or opportunity we provide is an opportunity for participatory learning through negotiation, observation of kids? MrsC_teach: 12:04 AM RT @blairteach: I will be absolutely SHOCKED if anyone participating in #edchat is not already a believer in the value of participatory learning. DahlD: 12:04 AM @andreamiller20 Okay, thank you. #edchat Does role of teacher change in a

stumpteacher: 12:04 AM participatory learning model? #edchat

khephir: 12:04 AM Education Cares About Technology, But Do Technologists Care About Education? -http://j.mp/fWnBlU [ #edchat #edtech #edreform #loveHE ] espanateacher: contract? #edchat 12:04 AM @DahlD Do you have a sample

padgets: 12:04 AM #edchat I put on my board my learning targets for the day and then students have a choice to demonstrate how they will elarn it

mbteach: 12:05 AM @dahld @reasoningmind learner-centered inquiry method for teaching. More here:http://www.plearn.net and here: http://ow.ly/3yn6O #edchat jgmac1106: 12:05 AM For me all learning is in essence participatory. Students are always involved in some form of discourse. #edchat wagga: 12:05 AM I'm still not sure how PL works #edchat

stumpteacher: 12:05 AM RT @padgets: #edchat I put on my board my learning targets for the day and then students have a choice to demonstrate how they will elarn it rodaniel: 12:05 AM @blairteach but do we all practice it? if not, how do we develop a more participatory approach? #edchat tomwhitby: 12:05 AM How do we specifically enable kids to participate in their learning? It gives up control. #edchat ppoulin: 12:05 AM RT @padgets: #edchat I put on my board my learning targets for the day and then students have a choice to demonstrate how they will elarn it corriekelly: 12:05 AM The Big Picture-- someone in #edchat shared this...worth a lookhttp://www.bigpicture.org/2010/11/embracing-a-bigpicture-view/ Edu_Traveler: 12:05 AM @stumpteacher The teacher becomes a facilitator..supporting/guiding learning not directing learning #edchat davidwees: 12:05 AM An Overlooked Difference Between Professional Athletes and Professional Teachershttp://huff.to/f5jX3w #edchat #ecosys stumpteacher: 12:05 AM control is inherent in PL. #edchat MrsC_teach: #edchat 12:05 AM @tomwhitby Yes, I think giving up

@ktenkely Is Odosketch just online paint?

colingally: 12:05 AM @wagga Even Google can't define it! Yet another flip flop term to learn. #edchat tshreve: 12:06 AM own question #edchat in high school, let kids lead discussion, design

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#edchat ?4 example, i lost 1 kid while talking

jgmac1106: 12:06 AM I always return to Jenkins (2006) profiecencies play, performance, simulation, appropriation, multitasking, #edchat padgets: 12:06 AM #edchat is less stress, more engaging of kids and naturally differentiates, but kids need to be taught how lisamonthie: 12:06 AM What if students do not have the background knowledge needed for participatory learning? #edchat blairteach: 12:06 AM is often lacking. #edchat @rodaniel I agree that follow-thru on beliefs

mbteach: 12:06 AM Participatory learning is highly successful for student engagement and motivation as well as meaningful learning experiences #edchat tomwhitby: 12:06 AM How can we allow kids to direct their learning? We won't be able to standardize their testing. #Edchat kylepace: 12:06 AM Made it home but wifi not cooperating...my #edchat participation might be sparse tonight. Sorry folks. jgmac1106: 12:06 AM Jenkins (2006) continued: distributed cognition, collective intelligence, judgment, transmedia navigation, networking, negotiation. #edchat edtechsteve: 12:06 AM my head. ;) #edchat I don't think I can cram another acronym in

sammorra: 12:06 AM I look at participatory learning as empowering and engaging students. #edchat chadsansing: 12:07 AM #edchat ? a lot of off-task behavior is info re: genre & processes that work better 4 kids' learning; can we participate w/ those cues? mgraffin: 12:07 AM @stumpteacher I've been trying to share my teaching objectives using the Aim of the Day instructional strategy in my relief teaching #edchat reasoningmind: 12:07 AM I'm especially interested in hearing how PL is being used by math teachers. #edchat stumpteacher: 12:07 AM comes in. http://bit.ly/grNJkk #edchat @lisamonthie That is where choice

rodaniel: 12:07 AM @lisamonthie then maybe we need to rephrase the topic to include them? #edchat ChrisVacek: 12:07 AM #edchat I like the idea of participatory teaching. What if students were co-teachers on subjects the students know well? andreamiller20: 12:07 AM @tomwhitby The teacher is still there to guide, but the students are learning the skill in the way they choose. #edchat tshreve: 12:07 AM @tomwhitby Perhaps we can move away from standardized testing to more authentic assessments #edchat eliza_peterson: 12:07 AM Agreed! RT @sammorra: I look at participatory learning as empowering and engaging students. #edchat Mr_Johansson: 12:07 AM Participatory learning: Any practical actual examples? Please share... #edchat dmantz7: 12:07 AM RT @ChrisVacek: #edchat I like the idea of participatory teaching. What if students were co-teachers on subjects the students know well? oline73: 12:07 AM @tomwhitby Can't speak for high school, but for younger grades it's super tough- they don't know what they don't know yet. #edchat hshawjr: 12:07 AM RT @ChrisVacek: #edchat I like the idea of participatory teaching. What if students were co-teachers on subjects the students know well? padgets: 12:07 AM #edchat tech helps me very much, love google apps, diigo, delicious and twiducate cybraryman1: 12:07 AM My Participatory Learning page: http://cybraryman.com/participatorylearning.html #edchat eliza_peterson: 12:07 AM It can be hard to give up some control, but to stand back and watch is very rewarding. #edchat padgets: 12:07 AM RT @cybraryman1: My Participatory Learning page:http://cybraryman.com/participatorylearning.html #edchat jgmac1106: 12:07 AM @tomwhitby I agree. The biggest hurdle for participiatory learning is assessment in era of accountability. We need new models. #edchat

Edu_Traveler: 12:07 AM @mbteach It works great with the hardest to reach students. They control their education..who can complain about that? #edchat sguditus: 12:08 AM Participatory learning is increasing the authenticity of what students learn, and therefore, understand and retain. #edchat cybraryman1: 12:08 AM RT @andreamiller20: @tomwhitby The teacher is still there to guide, but the students are learning the skill in the way they choose. #edchat MrsC_teach: 12:08 AM @edtechsteve @wagga RT: @stumpteacher Here is a post to help clarify http://bit.ly/dV5FjC#edchat ChrisVacek: apprenticeships. 12:08 AM #edchat I like the idea of applied classroom

DahlD: 12:08 AM @espanateacher Here's a link to the learning contract. Let me know if it doesn't work.http://bit.ly/gZoBqD #edchat rodaniel: often, #edchat 12:08 AM @oline73 I've been accused of that quite

hshawjr: 12:08 AM @tshreve It would be nice, but isnot going to happen anytime quick, to enmeshed with law/regs right now #edchat reasoningmind: 12:08 AM @chrisvacek We've had a great deal of success using students as aides, going around to help classmates since they are ahead. #edchat padgets: 12:08 AM #edchat oh yes, it is hard for some to give control to kids, but once you do, watch out! kristenswanson: 12:08 AM Woo! My district is piloting google apps for ed. How do I get Google Reader in my apps dashboard? TIA! #edchat #edtech @rmbyrne @elementous mgraffin: 12:08 AM the Philosophy RT @Edu_Traveler: @stumpteacher The teacher becomes a facilitator..supporting/guiding learning not directing learning #edchat sguditus: 12:08 AM misperceiving it as " doingmyjob Teachers fear participatory learning,

mbteach: 12:08 AM @lisamonthie PL does require a kind of 'unlearning' process for some kids who are used to being told what to do #edchat

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I have taught my middle school student the

MrsC_teach: 12:09 AM @hshawjr @ChrisVacek Re. s's as coteachers. I used to do this in Spanish - kids gain new appreciation for field of teaching! #edchat MrsC_teach: 12:09 AM RT @oline73: @tomwhitby Can't speak for high school, but for younger grades it's super tough- they don't know what they don't know yet. #edchat readywriting: 12:09 AM @tomwhitby In #highered we are constrained by admin requirements in our course design and teaching http://bit.ly/ie387P #edchat lookforsun: 12:09 AM #edchat participatory learning at elementary level: Building a family heritage museum - students plan, create, review, present rodaniel: 12:09 AM make me look bad, #edchat @sguditus or an opportunity for a student to

tshreve: 12:09 AM @hshawjr Too many with little understanding of education making educational decisions #edchat Edu_Traveler: 12:09 AM @oline73 @tomwhitby How about the Montessori model? That starts at preschool.. #edchat dmantz7: 12:09 AM @kristenswanson To get Google Reader in dashboard the admin must accept the advanced tools. #edchat #edtech eliza_peterson: 12:09 AM Yes, it's amazing! RT @padgets: #edchat oh yes, it is hard for some to give control to kids, but once you do, watch out! #edchat carolgau: 12:09 AM @stumpteacher #edchat I think the teacher become a facilitator or someone who guides the learning of students chadsansing: 12:09 AM #edchat last night some of #engchat explored "what's writing?" i think it's part of composition/design; any such wrkshp can be participatory oline73: 12:09 AM @sguditus Understanding and retaining are basically the whole ballgame, but "what" they learn needs mature curriculum planners. #edchat tomwhitby: 12:09 AM How can we allow kids to control their learning when we must cover the curriculum? #Edchat

wagga: 12:09 AM technology? #edchat

@cybraryman Old concept with an overlay of

hshawjr: 12:09 AM @MrsC_teach and they for some reason don't give you as much grief afterwards ;-) #edchat mbteach: 12:10 AM RT @reasoningmind: I'm especially interested in hearing how PL is being used by math teachers. #edchat hshawjr: 12:10 AM present reality #edchat @tshreve I totally agree, however, is our

reasoningmind: 12:10 AM We have classrooms where students work with the teacher to set individual goals on progress through the curriculum. That count? #edchat kbkonnected: 12:10 AM RT @cybraryman1: My Participatory Learning page:http://cybraryman.com/participatorylearning.html #edchat andreamiller20: 12:10 AM @espanateacher Choice boards provide activities for students to complete based on multiple intelligences. They choose 3 of 9. #edchat B_Wagoner: 12:10 AM @tomwhitby If outcomes are same for all w/ indiv student-directed pathways to them, you might be able to have a common assessment #Edchat mtechman: 12:10 AM @chadsansing can't retweet everything you say ; ) write this up for blog - great stuff #edchat enrichingkids: 12:10 AM @mgraffin fb seems more personal while twitter is an conversation. How do you feel abt tumblr? Is that social media too? #edchat tibon007: charge. #edchat 12:10 AM @DahlD good ideas. That puts them in

cpaterso: 12:10 AM The best teaching is when learners do the explaining and teachers do the listening. #edchat funnymonkey: 12:10 AM New post: I Would Like A More Compete Conversation - http://bit.ly/dDXYh7 #edchat #edreform andycinek: 12:10 AM Id love to see specific classroom examples of PL and not just connecting a student but empowering their participation in the process #edchat padgets: 12:10 AM #edchat my learning targets follow my curriculum, for me, very easy to do

chadsansing: 12:10 AM #edchat if we shifted some language from "writers workshop" to "scientists workshop," "design workshop," or "inquiry workshop?" jgmac1106: 12:10 AM Check out Hickey et al. on participatory assessment: Participatory Assessment of 21st Century Proficiencies. Great chapter #edchat mbteach: 12:10 AM Participatory Learning looks different at different age levels, but always involves choice #edchat edtechsteve: 12:10 AM I've seen some really terrible self-directed school environments- there has to be a foundation of respect #edchat sammorra: 12:10 AM I don't think I give up control. I think I get more control. I can get more done when students are part of the process. #edchat tshreve: 12:11 AM that would be sad #edchat @sguditus if teachers truly feel that way -

cybraryman1: 12:11 AM RT @cpaterso: The best teaching is when learners do the explaining and teachers do the listening. #edchat ChrisVacek: 12:11 AM #edchat participatory learning is great; education as recruitment process is better. Skills to careers model increases future Edu resources. MrsC_teach: 12:11 AM @sguditus I <3 it when st's do my job. They learn better! Had kids leading math class 2day. #edchat hshawjr: 12:11 AM RT @edtechsteve: I've seen some really terrible self-directed school environments- there has to be a foundation of respect #edchat Edu_Traveler: 12:11 AM @B_Wagoner @tomwhitby Assessments are portfolio presentations. Yes testing unfortunately works outside the model #edchat cybraryman1: 12:11 AM RT @mbteach: Participatory Learning looks different at different age levels, but always involves choice #edchat andreamiller20: 12:11 AM RT @sammorra: I don't think I give up control. I think I get more control. I can get more done when students are part of the process. #edchat

espanateacher: 12:11 AM @lisamonthie Good point. What background knowledge would they need? #edchat Some motivating factor...? #edchat carolgau: 12:11 AM @lisamonthie #edchat I think teachers need to model how it is done using a gradual release model and students who already know how tshreve: 12:11 AM RT @cpaterso: The best teaching is when learners do the explaining and teachers do the listening. #edchat ChrisLAtkinson: 12:11 AM @tomwhitby #edchat provide choices, allow technology , open acceleration, and vary our assessments to reflect higher order thinking. joe_bower: 12:11 AM Failure first, shame second. http://bit.ly/gonWiw #abed #edchat #edtech EngTeachChick: 12:11 AM #edchat it's more work to get prepared for it but the rewards are greater mtechman: 12:11 AM RT @mbteach: Participatory Learning looks different at different age levels, but always involves choice #edchat oline73: 12:11 AM @Edu_Traveler Exactly- we get transfers like that and they are so deep in the hole compared to the other kids. #edchat mgraffin: 12:11 AM @enrichingkids To be honest, I've had bad exp. with facebook. I've only used tumblr once - through twitter. #edchat chadsansing: 12:11 AM #edchat ?[w/ inquiry wrkshp approach] how could we remake class, media centers, schedules, interdisciplinary studies, schools & communities? HPTeachExchange: 12:11 AM Lesson plan inspiration -> Art lesson ideas from colleagues http://budurl.com/u36a #teachers#edchat tomwhitby: 12:11 AM How can Principals assess a teacher's competence if all of the students are controlling what they learn? #Edchat MrsC_teach: 12:12 AM RT @cpaterso: The best teaching is when learners do the explaining and teachers do the listening. #edchat eliza_peterson: 12:12 AM Allowing students that active role in their learning is key! It gives them a chance to really exercise their brains! #edchat reasoningmind: 12:12 AM @andycinek in a GT 2nd grade class they set daily goals for accuracy and progress on our program. #edchat

jgmac1106: 12:12 AM @mbteach Agree. Participatory learning involves choice. Also involves the use of reflective learning and students providing feedback #edchat brittgow: 12:12 AM RT @cpaterso: The best teaching is when learners do the explaining and teachers do the listening. #edchat mbteach: 12:12 AM @mr_johansson my students are doing a research project on a topic of their choice & cr8ing a website. I will merely guide them #edchat Mr_Johansson: 12:12 AM @cybraryman1 Choice is good produces better outcomes for all! Especially level of involvement among students... #edchat sguditus: 12:12 AM Increased access to info in today's world necessitates that teachers become facilitators, students become active participants of ed #edchat rodaniel: 12:12 AM RT @Mr_Johansson: @cybraryman1 Choice is good - produces better outcomes for all! Especially level of involvement among students... #edchat cpaterso: 12:12 AM Teachers provide a feedback loop linking student questions back to the group learning. #edchat enrichingkids: 12:12 AM @espanateacher Great question, I was thinking that as well. RT @lisamonthie Good point. What background knowledge would they need? #edchat padgets: 12:12 AM #edchat true it is a bit more work, but that is where tech can be the best friend, my evaluator loves it stumpteacher: 12:12 AM @andycinek Here is an example of what I have done with PL http://bit.ly/grNJkk #edchat enrichingkids: 12:12 AM RT @sammorra: I don't think I give up control. I think I get more control. I can get more done when students are part of the process. #edchat blairteach: 12:12 AM RT @eliza_peterson: Allowing stds that active role in their learning is key! It gives them a chance to really exercise their brains! #edchat espanateacher: 12:12 AM @tomwhitby We may not like it, but testing is a reality. Do I offer a disservice by not preparing them "correctly?" #edchat

carolgau: 12:12 AM @tomwhitby #edchat I think by allowing them choice in how they demonstrate their knowledge would be considered PL sammorra: 12:13 AM Student wrote: Self-directed means to know when to do stuff without being told. It also means to take control of your own education #edchat Collaborize: 12:13 AM http://bit.ly/fZrHOX #edchat Blended Learning can bring stories to life

DahlD: 12:13 AM @tomwhitby Student work samples. I also post videos on our class wiki. #edchat hshawjr: 12:13 AM @tomwhitby The admins should see this as authentic learning, but dif then what they used, prob more effective use of inst time ? #edchat AntLak: 12:13 AM RT @tomwhitby: How can we allow kids to control their learning when we must cover the curriculum? #Edchat chadsansing: 12:13 AM @lookforsun #edchat math workshop?! i must know more - do you have a blog/wiki/manifesto? love it! TercUsingData: 12:13 AM RT @sammorra I've taught my middle schl students the word "self-directed" learning. Assess yourself-Know yourself EXCELLENT! #edchat eliza_peterson: 12:13 AM RT @carolgau: @tomwhitby #edchat I think by allowing them choice in how they demonstrate their knowledge would be considered PL #edchat Mr_Johansson: 12:13 AM @mbteach Thanks! Using that same strategy, but giving them choice of topic within larger area/unit of study. #edchat tshreve: 12:13 AM @tomwhitby You can still have standards and a curriculum, how it is learned would be different #edchat mtechman: 12:13 AM my goal in library is to hv sign in board and then students work on what they choose. I help, they help. Skype, db's,sites, bks #edchat enrichingkids: 12:13 AM @cybraryman1 @mbteach Do you have more examples of Participatory Learning? #edchat enrichingkids: 12:13 AM RT @cybraryman1: RT @mbteach: Participatory Learning looks different at different age levels, but always involves choice #edchat

CoachB0066: 12:13 AM @tomwhitby Making sure the tcher is directing the lrning of the individual stdnts. Movement ard the room, diff artifacts from stdnts #edchat stumpteacher 1/4/11 7:13 PM Here is a few examples of student work that was the result of participatory learning. #edchat http://bit.ly/f9wg3L narvitopia 1/4/11 7:13 PM @tomwhitby Recent example: honey, you're 2 years old and you want to play in the snow without gloves? Enjoy! Lesson quickly learned. #Edchat wagga 1/4/11 7:13 PM @MrsC_teach @cpaterso You learn the best and retain the most when you start to teach a topic #edchat chadsansing 1/4/11 7:13 PM @mtechman #edchat i hope it IS my blog; otherwise i need an editor or two ;) espanateacher 1/4/11 7:13 PM RT@reasoningmind I'm especially interested in hearing how PL is being used by math teachers. #edchat I second that! lisamonthie 1/4/11 7:13 PM How would 1 assess the variety of choices? How would one organize that? I struggled w/the preps I had not including multiple choices #edchat Mr_Johansson1/4/11 7:14 PM @lisamonthie It's all in the objective writing - create 3 objectives to pick from, use a simple generic rubric... #edchat DahlD 1/4/11 7:14 PM RT @web20classroom: RT @hshawjr: Student need to learn what they don't know and learn what they do know and get to know what they want to learn #edchat tomwhitby 1/4/11 7:14 PM safety net. Nice example. #Edchat @narvitopia And you are still the

rodaniel 1/4/11 7:14 PM RT @EngTeachChick: #edchat my principals want the test, not learning. my priority of learning is the minority. enrichingkids 1/4/11 7:14 PM RT @cybraryman1: RT @cpaterso: The best teaching is when learners do the explaining and teachers do the listening. #edchat web20classroom 1/4/11 7:14 PM RT @hshawjr: Student need to learn what they don't know and learn what they do know and get to know what they want to learn #edchat

enrichingkids 1/4/11 7:14 PM abt recruitment process? #edchat

@chrisvacek Could you explain more

blairteach 1/4/11 7:14 PM Choice does not necessarily mean "open season" w/no boundaries or guidelines. #edchat EngTeachChick 1/4/11 7:14 PM #edchat my principals want the test, not learning. my priority of learning is the minority. hshawjr 1/4/11 7:14 PM Student need to learn what they don't know and learn what they do know and get to know what they want to learn #edchat TheDSCWay 1/4/11 7:14 PM RT@eliza_peterson Allowing students that active role in their learning is key-It gives them a chance to really exercise their brains #edchat tshreve 1/4/11 7:14 PM RT @cpaterso: Teachers provide a feedback loop linking student questions back to the group learning. #edchat <-exactly rodaniel 1/4/11 7:14 PM @sammorra I've always liked learning, but not always what others wanted me to learn when they wanted me to learn it #edchat monk51295 1/4/11 7:14 PM self-directed learning: knowing what to do when you don't know what to do. #edchat tomwhitby 1/4/11 7:14 PM @espanateacher Are we preparing them to be learners or is the higher priority to prepare therm for TH TEST? #edchat jgmac1106 1/4/11 7:14 PM with participatory learning is the act of trying to measure standardized skills can never mesh. You must encourage proficiencies #edchat DahlD 1/4/11 7:14 PM I also have my students log what they've been doing when there isn't 'hard evidence' to show. #edchat mbteach 1/4/11 7:14 PM @edu_traveler yes, often those hardest to reach respond well to certain freedom in the learning process #edchat HaileyErin 1/4/11 7:14 PM @sammorra This segues into a question I have: is there a clear distinction btwn self-directed learning and participatory learning? #edchat Dave_Parkes 1/4/11 7:15 PM RT @EngTeachChick: #edchat my principals want the test, not learning. my priority of learning is the minority.

rodaniel 1/4/11 7:15 PM RT @andreamiller20: @blairteach I agree! The choice is in HOW the kids choose to learn, not WHAT they learn. We are still tied to the standards. #edchat enrichingkids 1/4/11 7:15 PM @andycinek I do too! #edchat

cfanch 1/4/11 7:15 PM @blairteach yes. Too often teachers see that as a loss of control. No, you focus there choices. Mr_Johansson1/4/11 7:15 PM @tomwhitby Depends on when the test is created... start there, work backward, then of course we'll want to teach to the test! #edchat mtechman 1/4/11 7:15 PM also, lots of student-made toolkits, jings, signs, videos etc for others to refer to as they research, produce.... #edchat andreamiller20 1/4/11 7:15 PM @blairteach I agree! The choice is in HOW the kids choose to learn, not WHAT they learn. We are still tied to the standards. #edchat mbteach 1/4/11 7:15 PM Students who learn thru Participatory Learning take more responsibility for their own learning & are more invested in it #edchat lisamonthie 1/4/11 7:15 PM And does participatory learning prepare students for college? I didn't have much choice in my college classes #edchat blairteach 1/4/11 7:15 PM @EngTeachChick No truer words...I see this focus on "test" vs. learning in many schs I visit. Very sad. #edchat padgets 1/4/11 7:15 PM #edchat I use authentic assessments such as a variety of projects , writing assignments, have 29 choices to date oline73 1/4/11 7:15 PM think are expendable? #edchat @jgmac1106 Which skills do you

Edu_Traveler 1/4/11 7:15 PM @mbteach Big Picture does this around internships..they are out of the building 2x a week learning in a career of choice #edchat chadsansing 1/4/11 7:15 PM @espanateacher #edchat it's not so much the teachable moments i'm after, as it is the student-directed learning culture jgmac1106 1/4/11 7:15 PM It is not a amtter of measuring skills but encouraging the use of social practices that will be successful for life long learning. #edchat

mgraffin 1/4/11 7:15 PM RT @stumpteacher: Here is a few examples of student work that was the result of participatory learning. #edchat http://bit.ly/f9wg3L reasoningmind 1/4/11 7:15 PM Lol! RT @narvitopia Recent ex: honey, you're 2 years old & u want to play in the snow without gloves? Enjoy! Lesson quickly learned. #Edchat KristinGiron 1/4/11 7:15 PM Two years ago I started Literature Circles in senior English. Students teach the novel to class by using Web 2.0 tools. Great PL! #edchat posickj 1/4/11 7:15 PM RT @justintarte: great post on empowering teachers! http://bit.ly/gV2FWV #edchat #cpchat #edadmin #ecosys espanateacher 1/4/11 7:15 PM @tshreve Many K-12 students today will have many standardized tests in life? How can we prepare them with PL? #edchat daveandcori 1/4/11 7:15 PM RT @web20classroom: RT @hshawjr: Student need to learn what they don't know and learn what they do know and get to know what they want to learn #edchat eliza_peterson 1/4/11 7:15 PM @tomwhitby @espanateacher They will go hand in hand if you TRUST the PROCESS of true learning. #edchat DoremiGirl 1/4/11 7:15 PM After Ss make their choice & working on projects, I find that I'm learning w/the Ss on areas they are researching. Gr8 learning! #edchat ExcentK12 1/4/11 7:15 PM Success is the good fortune that comes from aspiration, desperation, perspiration and inspiration. -- Evan Esar -#edchat espanateacher 1/4/11 7:16 PM RT@cybraryman1 My Participatory Learning page: http://cybraryman.com/participatorylearning.html #edchat - I love your work! rodaniel 1/4/11 7:16 PM RT @MrsC_teach: Would this count as PL? Unit on learning key factors in running business cuminating in bus. plan proposal. http://bit.ly/hPcdx5 #edchat TeachPaperless 1/4/11 7:16 PM Great Sites for Human Geo students/teachers: http://ht.ly/3ynkP http://ht.ly/3ynl1 http://ht.ly/3ynlj http://ht.ly/3ynmp #edchat

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Teach the students not the papers.

andreamiller20 1/4/11 7:16 PM @mbteach I couldn't agree more! It holds them accountable for their learning. #edchat hshawjr 1/4/11 7:16 PM RT @devenkblack: Tonight's #spedchat topic: How can we make special education part of education reform discussions? Join us at 8:30 Eastern time #edchat oline73 1/4/11 7:16 PM @andreamiller20 At what age do you think kids understand learning better than teachers? #edchat eliza_peterson 1/4/11 7:16 PM RT @andreamiller20: @blairteach agreed! The choice is HOW kids choose to learn, not WHAT they learn. We r still tied to standards. #edchat Edu_Traveler 1/4/11 7:16 PM @oline73 yes. They're turned off to education. You have to meet the student where they're at #edchat jgmac1106 1/4/11 7:16 PM RT @chadsansing: @espanateacher #edchat it's not so much the teachable moments i'm after, as it is the studentdirected learning culture sammorra 1/4/11 7:16 PM Looking up what students wrote at the beginning of the year on self-direction. Starting with new group. #edchat MrsC_teach 1/4/11 7:16 PM Would this count as PL? Unit on learning key factors in running business cuminating in bus. plan proposal. http://bit.ly/hPcdx5 #edchat mtechman 1/4/11 7:16 PM RT @monk51295: self-directed learning: knowing what to do when you don't know what to do. #edchat wendygorton 1/4/11 7:16 PM @sammorra giving students the language helps build awareness of their learning-- great! #edchat devenkblack 1/4/11 7:16 PM Tonight's #spedchat topic: How can we make special education part of education reform discussions? Join us at 8:30 Eastern time #edchat Mr_Johansson1/4/11 7:16 PM RT @mbteach: Students who learn thru PL take more responsibility for their own learning & are more invested in it <-- I agree! #edchat daveandcori 1/4/11 7:16 PM @tomwhitby How can Principal's assess teacher competence at all? Don't know subject matter. Really assess at surface level only. #edchat

jgmac1106 1/4/11 7:16 PM @oline73 Not a matter of expendable skills, but recognizing those skills as larger social practices used in learning enviornments #edchat EngTeachChick 1/4/11 7:16 PM #edchat If students can use the skills you teach them, they can apply them anywhere. even silly tests Ron_Peck 1/4/11 7:16 PM RT @mbteach: Students who learn thru Participatory Learning take more responsibility for their own learning & are more invested in it #edchat espanateacher 1/4/11 7:16 PM RT@mr_johansson Participatory learning: Any practical actual examples? Please share... #edchat nsvf 1/4/11 7:16 PM RT @TheDailyRiff: I Used to Think . . .about public #education. Larry Rosenstock. High Tech High. http://bit.ly/fDIV9S #edchat #edreform jamieregier 1/4/11 7:17 PM RT @devenkblack: Tonight's #spedchat topic: How can we make special education part of education reform discussions? Join us at 8:30 Eastern time #edchat enrichingkids 1/4/11 7:17 PM Does anybody know if there is an dance focused education group? Just curious! #artsed #edchat TheDSCWay 1/4/11 7:17 PM RT @espanateacher it's not so much the teachable moments i'm after, as it is the student-directed learning culture <YES! #edchat WackJacq 1/4/11 7:17 PM Teachers as platforms for content knowledge dissemination are outdated! They need MENTORS now. See-> @dlaufenberg on TED #edchat jgmac1106 1/4/11 7:17 PM RT @DahlD: I also have my students log what they've been doing when there isn't 'hard evidence' to show. #edchat padgets I use 1/4/11 7:17 PM #edchat I also have a variety of rubrics

DoremiGirl 1/4/11 7:17 PM RT @monk51295: self-directed learning: knowing what to do when you don't know what to do. #edchat jagill 1/4/11 7:17 PM RT @joe_bower: Failure first, shame second. http://bit.ly/gonWiw #abed #edchat #edtech daveandcori 1/4/11 7:17 PM @tomwhitby We guide them and get them to the material they need to learn. Good PBL & PL does that. Guided, not just student dir #edchat

web20classroom 1/4/11 7:17 PM Maybe it's me but doesn't participatory learning just make sense? Wouldn't want kids who take part in their own learning? #edchat reasoningmind 1/4/11 7:17 PM Couldn't a goal of KWL charts be participatory learning? Perhaps those could really be useful if utilized properly. #edchat 2footgiraffe 1/4/11 7:17 PM I think you are funny. #edchat @padgets hello fellow science teacher.

oline73 1/4/11 7:17 PM @mbteach The big question is what are they choosing to learn though? #edchat rodaniel 1/4/11 the papers. #edchat 7:17 PM RT @cpaterso: Teach the students not

cfanch 1/4/11 7:17 PM @lisamonthie we're finding that some of our grads (pbl at our school) are saying that they aren't used to dealing w/books in college #edchat mbteach 1/4/11 7:17 PM in the K-2 classroom? #edchat What does participatory learning look

mcamp41 1/4/11 7:18 PM RT @rodaniel: @sammorra I've always liked learning, but not always what others wanted me to learn when they wanted me to learn it #edchat espanateacher 1/4/11 7:18 PM @DahlD Thanks! I have several students that would benefit from a learning contract. #edchat CoachB0066 1/4/11 7:18 PM RT @hshawjr: Good participatory learning is like the difference between management & leadership you know it when you see it #edchat Edu_Traveler 1/4/11 7:18 PM @andreamiller20 @mbteach Let students set their own goals and the assessments that will show that they met their goals #edchat andreamiller20 1/4/11 7:18 PM @oline73 Good question. I'm still learning new ways to learn as I work towards my M. Ed. We're always learning new ways to learn. #edchat onboardlearning 1/4/11 7:18 PM RT @blairteach: I will be absolutely SHOCKED if anyone participating in #edchat is not already a believer in the value of participatory learning.

hshawjr 1/4/11 7:18 PM Good participatory learning is like the difference between management & leadership you know it when you see it #edchat EngTeachChick 1/4/11 7:18 PM #edchat What do we do with kids who only show up to school to get away from home, have a meal, warm place, and deal the drugs? devenkblack 1/4/11 7:18 PM books. It is in the world. #edchat RT @cpaterso: Subject matter is not in

mbteach 1/4/11 7:18 PM When should we NOT use Participatory Learning methods? #edchat MrsC_teach #edchat 1/4/11 7:18 PM OK. Off to dinner. Until next week!

lookforsun 1/4/11 7:18 PM @andreamiller20 Design lessons that include essential skills, choice, meaningful end product, multiple levels of achievement. #edchat enrichingkids 1/4/11 7:18 PM RT @oline73: @sguditus Understanding and retaining are basically the whole ballgame, but "what" they learn needs mature curriculum planners. #edchat chadsansing 1/4/11 7:18 PM #edchat examples of negotiated learning: http://bit.ly/dnVUKE, http://bit.ly/c9atk3, http://bit.ly/ebTqHW; schools like http://bit.ly/dI6hOE educguess 1/4/11 7:18 PM RT @cybraryman1: RT @cpaterso: The best teaching is when learners do the explaining and teachers do the listening. #edchat reasoningmind 1/4/11 7:18 PM RT @cpaterso: Teach the students not the papers. #edchat How do you know what to teach the students without the papers/assessment? pschoolsystems 1/4/11 7:18 PM Love this question! RT @mbteach: What does participatory learning look in the K-2 classroom? #edchat langwitches 1/4/11 7:18 PM @andycinek Have u taken look @globalearner 's 6roles to empower learners? Here are ex.from my classroom http://tinyurl.com/2wwyzqg #edchat cpaterso 1/4/11 the world. #edchat 7:18 PM Subject matter is not in books. It is in

CoachB0066 1/4/11 7:18 PM RT @tomwhitby: Here is a Prezi for Principals: "What Great Principals Do Differently" http://bit.ly/eDZ2lP #Edchat monk51295 1/4/11 7:18 PM RT @tomwhitby: @narvitopia And you are still the safety net. Nice example. #Edchat web20classroom 1/4/11 7:18 PM But maybe that raises the motivation question. What to do when kids don't want to participate? #edchat tshreve 1/4/11 7:19 PM RT @cpaterso: It is only by thinking that people get better at thinking. #edchat <--and by teaching it to others do we really understand it stumpteacher 1/4/11 7:19 PM Participator, Self-Directed, PBL, Standards Based Grading...all same goal. Give kids goal without turn by turn directions. #edchat brittgow 1/4/11 7:19 PM @padgets #edchat Have you got a link to the list of authentic assessments you use please? daveandcori 1/4/11 7:19 PM @pgeorge16 Yes and no. I've had admin come in and not have a clue about subject matter. That should be assessed too. #edchat ChrisVacek 1/4/11 7:19 PM #edchat is participatory learning better for inductive or deductive thinkers? Better for process or product oriented outcomes? enrichingkids 1/4/11 7:19 PM @oline73 @tomwhitby @edu_traveler Wondering abt that also, to add to it is Reggio Emillo? THoughts too! #edchat cfanch 1/4/11 7:19 PM @EngTeachChick and what to do with students who are willing to fail? #edchat CTuckerEnglish 1/4/11 7:19 PM So right! Students should see each other as valuable resources. They also need 2 dev skills necessary to find info. RT @WackJacq: #edchat Mr_Johansson1/4/11 7:19 PM RT @web20classroom: But maybe that raises the motivation question. What to do when kids don't want to participate? <-- Exactly! #edchat jgmac1106 1/4/11 7:19 PM must understand ways students use strategies in different social practices and encourage dispositions or habits of mind in class #edchat

pschoolsystems 1/4/11 7:19 PM Well put! RT @andreamiller20 @blairteach The choice is HOW kids choose to learn, not WHAT they learn. We r still tied to standards. #edchat lookforsun 1/4/11 7:19 PM #edchat - daily menu: essential skills, online practice/review, participatory learning projects. . . rodaniel 1/4/11 7:19 PM RT @daveandcori: Participatory Learning - guide students, give them resources, help them find information & apply it to a task. Sounds like PBL too. #edchat cpaterso 1/4/11 7:19 PM better at thinking. #edchat It is only by thinking that people get

daveandcori 1/4/11 7:19 PM Participatory Learning - guide students, give them resources, help them find information & apply it to a task. Sounds like PBL too. #edchat montysays 1/4/11 7:19 PM Help! Any good articles re: value of rubrics to assess writing. Trying to convert rubric non-believers #edchat #engchat espanateacher 1/4/11 7:20 PM @mbteach @lisamonthie How would you start PL for students that are used to being told what to do? #edchat andreamiller20 1/4/11 7:20 PM @mbteach literacy centers, math investigations rather than direct instruction, science explorations - lots of group work/talk #edchat web20classroom 1/4/11 7:20 PM @Edu_Traveler I agree that is ideal but even when given the chance, some students refuse. Then what do we do? #edchat DahlD 1/4/11 7:20 PM RT @Mr_Johansson: The speed of #edchat must be in the hundred's of miles per hour! Wow! Hard to keep up! reasoningmind 1/4/11 7:20 PM @edu_traveler @mbteach how will they create assessments without knowing the material? have them track the most relevant topics? #edchat mbteach 1/4/11 7:20 PM @oline73 we can't just step out of the picture. We still need to guide students in their learning process/experience #edchat jpalladino 1/4/11 7:20 PM RT @tomwhitby: How can Principals assess a teacher's competence if all of the students are controlling what they learn? #Edchat

Mr_Johansson1/4/11 7:20 PM The speed of #edchat must be in the hundred's of miles per hour! Wow! Hard to keep up! jgmac1106 1/4/11 7:20 PM Deweys instincts fit in well: the social instinct, the instinct of making, instinct of investigating, and expressive instinct. #edchat nailor6math 1/4/11 7:20 PM RT @GlogsterEDU: Fostering student communities with @GlogsterEDU: http://mindofaninnovator.com/virtualintroduction/ #edchat #edtech #cpchat daveandcori 1/4/11 7:20 PM RT @hshawjr: Good participatory learning is like the difference between management & leadership you know it when you see it #edchat daveandcori 1/4/11 7:20 PM @pgeorge16 Other problem is assess is usually planned so teachers "jump thru hoops" for that one lesson, don't do it for rest of yr #edchat chadsansing 1/4/11 7:20 PM RT @devenkblack: @EngTeachChick Give them the meal, the warm place, the shelter from their family, and then teach them.: #edchat EngTeachChick 1/4/11 7:20 PM #edchat I don't think it's a decision of what's better. It's a decision of what MORE can I do to reach MORE? Gill_Ville 1/4/11 7:20 PM RT @cpaterso: It is only by thinking that people get better at thinking. #edchat sammorra 1/4/11 7:20 PM @WendyGorton Totally agree. Clear language. So many students are unaware of how they learn and why they should learn. #edchat carolgau 1/4/11 7:20 PM @lisamonthie #edchat Give topic and allow them to choose how to demonstrate: pamphlet, prezi, glogster, video.... devenkblack 1/4/11 7:20 PM @EngTeachChick Give them the meal, the warm place, the shelter from their family, and then teach them.: #edchat 2footgiraffe 1/4/11 7:20 PM #revlearn or the flipped classroom can help students get a base knowledge for participatory learning. #edchat Edu_Traveler 1/4/11 7:20 PM @web20classroom Why would they NOT want to participate if they are the creators of their own learning? #edchat cpaterso 1/4/11 7:20 PM listening than teaching. #edchat Effective pedagogy is more about

chadsansing 1/4/11 7:20 PM @lisamonthie #edchat college is not college it used to be; value proposition dropping; participatory learning preps teen entrepreneuers DahlD 1/4/11 7:20 PM there is choice involved. #edchat They usually do want to participate because

mgraffin 1/4/11 7:20 PM @padgets Any chance you could share a link / example? Always keen to learn about rubric assessment. #edchat cpaterso 1/4/11 7:21 PM We cannot learn anything about what children think if we signal to them what we hope they will say. #edchat Mr_Johansson1/4/11 7:21 PM @web20classroom Have the conversation: Where is this behavior taking you, and are you ready for the consequences? #edchat daveandcori 1/4/11 7:21 PM @mbteach @oline73 Exactly. We guide and give base info and resources. Then help them learn and apply to get to a goal/complete task. #edchat mgraffin 1/4/11 7:21 PM Does anyone use Blooming SMARTS learning contracts? I've found them online, but never used. Any good? #edchat stumpteacher 1/4/11 7:21 PM @web20classroom If you provide high interest and engaging options and choices, won't they always want to? #edchat web20classroom 1/4/11 7:21 PM RT @cpaterso: A teacher needs to be curious about what sense a learner is making and how a learner understands something. #edchat chadsansing 1/4/11 7:21 PM help families learn, too RT @devenkblack: Give them the meal, the warm place, the shelter from their family, and then teach them.: #edchat pschoolsystems 1/4/11 7:21 PM Interesting thought RT @Edu_Traveler @web20classroom Why would they NOT want to participate if they're the creators of own learning? #edchat cpaterso 1/4/11 7:21 PM A teacher needs to be curious about what sense a learner is making and how a learner understands something. #edchat CTuckerEnglish 1/4/11 7:21 PM It's hard to imagine kids not wanting 2 participate at all. Maybe they don't have buy in. Trick? How 2 get buy in? RT @mr_johansson: #edchat

lookforsun 1/4/11 7:21 PM @chadsansing #edchat math workshop - I use the Fortran model: if than or else. . .intro, workshop list, checkin points, varied materials langwitches 1/4/11 7:21 PM @andycinek Example videos from classroom:Skype jobs-http://vimeo.com/16180041 Blog Tutorial:http://vimeo.com/15858452 #edchat jgmac1106 1/4/11 7:21 PM RT @web20classroom: It is easy to say "why would they not want to." My question is what to do when they really don't want to. #edchat tomwhitby 1/4/11 7:21 PM @mr_johansson Latch on to a few good comments and read the archives later. #edchat mbteach 1/4/11 7:21 PM think deeply pass tests :) #edchat @espanateacher students who can

hshawjr 1/4/11 7:21 PM We so often focus on the learning styles of students/what about tching styles of tchrs would all tchrs be able teach part/learning #edchat EngTeachChick 1/4/11 creativity when tests kill it. 7:21 PM #edchat It's hard to increase

devenkblack 1/4/11 7:21 PM @chadsansing The world is not the world it used to be. Why should anything in edu be what it used to be? #edchat web20classroom 1/4/11 7:21 PM It is easy to say "why would they not want to." My question is what to do when they really don't want to. #edchat rodaniel 1/4/11 7:21 PM RT @web20classroom: @Edu_Traveler I agree that is ideal but even when given the chance, some students refuse. Then what do we do? #edchat daveandcori 1/4/11 7:21 PM @EngTeachChick That's a tough one we deal with. Many of our students come in for meal, warm place & socializing. #edchat cpaterso 1/4/11 7:21 PM Teachers need to really listen for and try to understand learners thoughts and insights, and then use them as a starting point. #edchat enrichingkids 1/4/11 enrichingkids 1/4/11 7:22 PM 7:22 PM @reasoningmind :)! #edchat @reasoningmind :)! #edchat

rodaniel 1/4/11 7:22 PM @stumpteacher sometimes it won't be, but student choice doesn't mean slacker, it can mean looking at the it til they get it right #edchat TeachPaperless 1/4/11 7:22 PM For 'participatory learning' to be effective, the 'participation' has to be relevant. #edchat daveandcori 1/4/11 7:22 PM @carolgau @lisamonthie With Projects in my class students get base info, do research, solve a problem & decide how to show mastery. #edchat DahlD 1/4/11 7:22 PM RT @jgmac1106: @web20classroom Ss may not want 2 particpate. look for new avenues, make them expert in next lesson use as helpers, be there partner #edchat WackJacq 1/4/11 7:22 PM @DahlD: "They usually do want to participate because there is choice involved." <--AND THAT IS EMPOWERING STUDENTS...#edchat padgets 1/4/11 everyday honest!!! :) 7:22 PM #edchat no really folks I do PL

jgmac1106 1/4/11 7:22 PM @web20classroom Ss may not want 2 particpate. look for new avenues, make them expert in next lesson use as helpers, be there partner #edchat CTuckerEnglish 1/4/11 7:22 PM Do instructors give students time process, think&respond? Maybe lack of participation is a product of this lack of time to process. #edchat mcamp41 1/4/11 7:22 PM RT @sguditus: Increased access to info in today's world necessitates that teachers become facilitators, students become active participants of ed #edchat hshawjr 1/4/11 7:22 PM @stumpteacher not always, if their plate is full due to non school issues, school is not important #edchat Jeff_shoemaker 1/4/11 7:22 PM RT @carolgau: @lisamonthie #edchat Give topic and allow them to choose how to demonstrate: pamphlet, prezi, glogster, video.... devenkblack 1/4/11 7:22 PM @chadsansing Yes, we have to teach the families, the neighborhoods, and anyone else we can reach. Politicians, perhaps. #edchat carolgau 1/4/11 7:22 PM RT @Mr_Johansson: The speed of #edchat must be in the hundred's of miles per hour! Wow! Hard to keep up!

raysadad 1/4/11 7:22 PM Gr8 post. RT @jagill: RT @joe_bower: Failure first, shame second. http://bit.ly/gonWiw #abed #edchat #edtech enrichingkids 1/4/11 7:22 PM @sguditus So not so! Teaching is a two way street. Teachers give the foundation so students can build being life long learners. #edchat mbteach 1/4/11 7:22 PM @reasoningmind this works best with older students. Show them the standards and discuss what they could do to learn them #edchat pschoolsystems 1/4/11 7:22 PM RT @web20classroom: @Edu_Traveler I agree that is ideal but even when given the chance, some students refuse. Then what do we do? #edchat milenagarg 1/4/11 7:22 PM RT @cpaterso: We cannot learn anything about what children think if we signal to them what we hope they will say. #edchat <-- YUP! web20classroom 1/4/11 7:22 PM But what if they still don't want to? #edchat padgets 1/4/11 do!!! :) #edchat 7:22 PM @stumpteacher You hope so.

@2footgiraffe ok..........sorry no I really

chadsansing 1/4/11 7:22 PM learn from families, too RT @devenkblack: Give them the meal, the warm place, the shelter from their family, and then teach them.: #edchat mbteach 1/4/11 7:23 PM @espanateacher it takes time, faith and a lot of encouragement as well as honesty about what you expect & the process #edchat rodaniel 1/4/11 7:23 PM RT @Mr_Johansson: @CTuckerEnglish No need to trick them... it's their journey... all we can do IS to guide them along, and provide choices and maps! #edchat jgmac1106 1/4/11 7:23 PM RT @CTuckerEnglish: Do instructors give students time process, think&respond? Maybe lack of participation is a product of this lack of time to process. #edchat monk51295 1/4/11 7:23 PM RT @web20classroom: My question is what to do when they really don't want to. #edchat - do they have to? daveandcori 1/4/11 7:23 PM @mbteach Good idea - show students the curriculum standards and let them decide how to learn and demonstrate their learning! #edchat

Mr_Johansson1/4/11 7:23 PM @CTuckerEnglish No need to trick them... it's their journey... all we can do IS to guide them along, and provide choices and maps! #edchat jgmac1106 1/4/11 7:23 PM @devenkblack @chadsansing Education has only moved away for participatory learning for a very short period in human history. #edchat chadsansing 1/4/11 7:23 PM #edchat here's the thing about participatory learning: it's needed for fostering & fomenting participatory itizenship stumpteacher 1/4/11 7:23 PM @web20classroom @hshawjr I see your point, if teaching was easy though everyone would do it! #edchat Edu_Traveler 1/4/11 7:23 PM @reasoningmind @mbteach that's when the teacher becomes a facilitator..guiding the Dev of essential ?s #edchat ryflinn 1/4/11 7:23 PM http://www.abcya.com/ Best grade specific edu games I have found.

ChrisVacek 1/4/11 7:23 PM #edchat does participatory learning & the choice concept, have a poverty-driven determinant? Do rich kids believe they have more choice? mbteach 1/4/11 7:23 PM @andreamiller20 yes, exploration with a social aspect builds a classroom of self-directed learners #edchat mbteach 1/4/11 7:23 PM @andreamiller20 yes, exploration with a social aspect builds a classroom of self-directed learners #edchat hshawjr 1/4/11 7:23 PM @pschoolsystems keep doing the best we can and don't give up, you might be surprised sometimes the toughest ones do come around :-) #edchat cybraryman1 1/4/11 7:23 PM It is important to create the right environment for participatory learning to be successful. Helpful to have admin backing #edchat hshawjr 1/4/11 7:23 PM @pschoolsystems keep doing the best we can and don't give up, you might be surprised sometimes the toughest ones do come around :-) #edchat cybraryman1 1/4/11 7:23 PM It is important to create the right environment for participatory learning to be successful. Helpful to have admin backing #edchat

marynabadenhors 1/4/11 7:23 PM Example videos from classroom:Skype jobs-http://vimeo.com/16180041 Blog Tutorial:http://vimeo.com/15858452 #edchat via @langwitches marynabadenhors 1/4/11 7:23 PM Example videos from classroom:Skype jobs-http://vimeo.com/16180041 Blog Tutorial:http://vimeo.com/15858452 #edchat via @langwitches enrichingkids 1/4/11 7:23 PM RT @reasoningmind: @chrisvacek We've had a great deal of success using students as aides, going around to help classmates since they are ahead. #edchat enrichingkids 1/4/11 7:23 PM RT @reasoningmind: @chrisvacek We've had a great deal of success using students as aides, going around to help classmates since they are ahead. #edchat TheDSCWay 1/4/11 7:23 PM @mgraffin could someone explain to me what a learning contract is? thanks! #edchat TheDSCWay 1/4/11 7:23 PM @mgraffin could someone explain to me what a learning contract is? thanks! #edchat Mr_Johansson1/4/11 7:24 PM @rodaniel Thanks! #edchat

CTuckerEnglish 1/4/11 7:24 PM Blended learning models may be the answer to giving students "time" to process and respond http://bit.ly/b7zlJ3 #edchat hshawjr 1/4/11 7:24 PM @stumpteacher just keep doing the best we can and like you say differentiate as much as poss. #edchat carolgau 1/4/11 7:24 PM @web20classroom #edchat I think you have to find something that the student is passionate about to entice them It can be very difficult! poh 1/4/11 7:24 PM RT @chadsansing: #edchat here's the thing about participatory learning: it's needed for fostering & fomenting participatory citizenship jgmac1106 1/4/11 7:24 PM You can not force participatory learning. Not a matter of choosing correct pedagogy or lesson. Its about buidling a culture #edchat milenagarg 1/4/11 7:24 PM isn't participatory learning like the guide on the side instead of the sage on the stage? #edchat Jeff_shoemaker 1/4/11 7:24 PM RT @marynabadenhors: Example videos from classroom:Skype jobs-http://vimeo.com/16180041 Blog Tutorial:http://vimeo.com/15858452 #edchat via @langwitches

reasoningmind 1/4/11 7:24 PM @edu_traveler only so much guiding you can do in math and science. Still curious about PL in math classes. #edchat kfasimpaur 1/4/11 7:24 PM Hope the someday-to-come new assessments support Participatory Learning #edchat web20classroom 1/4/11 7:24 PM @stumpteacher Yep. It all goes back to finding what works for each student. Less about generalizations and more about individuals. #edchat medablog 1/4/11 7:24 PM #Alameda voters will go to the polls March 8 2011 to decide on school parcel tax. Follow @AlamedaSOS for details #edchat devenkblack 1/4/11 7:24 PM @jgmac1106 @chadsansing Education is still participatory, only the part of it in school isn't. #edchat DoremiGirl 1/4/11 7:24 PM RT @cybraryman1: It is impt to create the right envir. for participatory learning to be successful. Helpful to have admin backing #edchat hshawjr 1/4/11 7:24 PM @ChrisVacek it isn't that they believe they have more choice they do have more choices IMHO #edchat andreamiller20 1/4/11 PL... can't think of any... #edchat 7:24 PM @mbteach when NOT to use

chadsansing 1/4/11 7:24 PM #edchat but it isn't a wand; kids who struggle will struggle until time passes & relationships form for safe buy-in, incremental success cpaterso 1/4/11 7:24 PM Education should be liberating it should free us to explore and consider possibilities from our own unique perspectives. #edchat BABBIS22 1/4/11 7:24 PM I think Participatory Learning opens the door wider to different types of learners (ie: auditory, kinesthetic) #edchat espanateacher 1/4/11 7:24 PM RT@oline73 Can't speak for high school, but for younger grades it's super tough- they don't know what they don't know yet. #edchat jenniferbarnett 1/4/11 7:24 PM Agree wholeheartedly. RT @stumpteacher: Participator, Self-Directed, PBL, Standards Based Grading...all same goal. #edchat

EngTeachChick 1/4/11 really enjoy worksheets

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#edchat besides, some kids

Edu_Traveler 1/4/11 7:24 PM not the right one..try, try again #edchat

@web20classroom then the topic is

tomwhitby 1/4/11 7:24 PM Participatory learning requires the teacher to guide the students through the content and not throw it at them. #Edchat MsDeanDoesTech 1/4/11 7:24 PM RT @ascensiontucson: RT@magdallena13 5 Reasons Technology in the Classroom Engages Students http://bit.ly/edj5lY #edtech #edchat #schooltech tshreve 1/4/11 7:24 PM RT @cybraryman1: It is important to create the right environment for participatory learning to be successful. Helpful to have admin backing #edchat stumpteacher 1/4/11 7:24 PM @web20classroom @hshawjr Have to keep changing and differentiating to hit all the kids in the classes. #edchat jgmac1106 1/4/11 7:25 PM RT @TeachingTrisha: RT @cpaterso: Subject matter is not in books. It is in the world. #edchat jpalladino 1/4/11 7:25 PM #Edchat Join @EagleRockSchool in the Rockies for some amazing student exhibitions - http://tinyurl.com/joinERSpols evidence of Part Learning reasoningmind 1/4/11 7:25 PM RT @ctuckerenglish: Blended learning models may be the answer to giving students "time" to process and respond http://bit.ly/b7zlJ3 #edchat HaileyErin 1/4/11 7:25 PM Question answered. // RT @tomwhitby Participatory lrning requires teacher to guide students thru the content, not throw it @ them. #Edchat Edu_Traveler 1/4/11 7:25 PM @reasoningmind YouthBuild USA does PL in math through construction. Students are building, applying math. #edchat EngTeachChick 1/4/11 7:25 PM #edchat we journal 5 mins everyday. some share after, most don't. but everyone participates in the writing. just not orally hshawjr 1/4/11 7:25 PM @cpaterso if only that were true, unfort education has always had a political side that usualy outweighs pedagogical side #edchat

TeachingTrisha 1/4/11 7:25 PM is not in books. It is in the world. #edchat

RT @cpaterso: Subject matter

blairteach 1/4/11 7:25 PM @tomwhitby "Guide on the side" vs. "Sage on the stage" (Roger Taylor) #edchat web20classroom 1/4/11 7:25 PM @monk51295 I don't think so. I think maybe we try to do what we think is best when sometimes it isn't what is needed. #edchat chadsansing 1/4/11 7:25 PM #edchat my participatory learning timeline: it took me 8 years to let go of content delivery daveandcori 1/4/11 7:25 PM @WackJacq @mbteach Good idea - let them really participate. Even let them help design the assessments. #edchat rodaniel 1/4/11 7:25 PM @BABBIS22 Great point, those that get it the way we do, will get it anyway cause we can support, #edchat devenkblack 1/4/11 7:25 PM @jgmac1106 @chadsansing Fortunately, or not in some cases, most of a person's education does not happen in school. #edchat stumpteacher 1/4/11 7:25 PM @web20classroom Totally boils down to knowing your students and what they plug into. #edchat Not easy and implies strong relationships mgraffin 1/4/11 7:25 PM @TheDSCWay it is a differentiated assessment tool - eg. students pick 5 tasks from 20 at diff levels of thinking #edchat JackieCassidy 1/4/11 7:25 PM RT @cpaterso: Education should be liberating it should free us to explore and consider possibilities from our own unique perspectives. #edchat stumpteacher 1/4/11 7:26 PM @daveandcori @web20classroom Choice is key... can't say that enough! http://bit.ly/grNJkk #edchat raysadad 1/4/11 7:26 PM RT @TeachingTrisha: RT @cpaterso: Subject matter is not in books. It is in the world. #edchat TheDSCWay 1/4/11 7:26 PM @mgraffin and is the idea of the contract to fulfill those 5 over an academic year? #edchat Akevy613 1/4/11 7:26 PM RT @cybraryman1: It is important to create the right environment for participatory learning to be successful. Helpful to have admin backing #edchat

westlakepotter 1/4/11 7:26 PM My ? too. Sometimes I'm puzzled when I have an engaging student selected project fail simply b/c the student doesn't want to do it. #edchat DoremiGirl 1/4/11 7:26 PM Some student do struggle with choice (hard to believe, but true!). I work with them to see what they can commit to. #edchat chadsansing 1/4/11 7:26 PM #edchat my participatory learning timeline: it took kids one week to buy-in to self-directed learning tshreve 1/4/11 7:26 PM RT @milenagarg: isn't participatory learning like the guide on the side instead of the sage on the stage? #edchat <-that' a big part of it enrichingkids 1/4/11 7:26 PM @kristenswanson So cool and congrats. Love to hear how it goes. #edchat rodaniel 1/4/11 7:26 PM @reasoningmind giving students choice about what they want to model/predict/explore, or let them determine relationships #edchat monk51295 1/4/11 7:26 PM what if we just focus on process of learning.. learner self directs topic/project/course #edchat mbteach 1/4/11 7:26 PM more work for the teacher? #edchat Does Participatory Learning make

CTuckerEnglish 1/4/11 7:26 PM Thank u! RT @sophia: @CTuckerEnglish gr8 post on Differentiated Instruction&how tech can help students http://exm.nr/i5Dls9 #edchat stumpteacher 1/4/11 7:26 PM @web20classroom Again, if it was easy everyone would be doing it! :) #edchat mbteach 1/4/11 7:26 PM facilitator/coach/guide #edchat @edu_traveler yes, teacher as

chadsansing 1/4/11 7:26 PM #edchat my participatory learning timeline: it took me two weeks to set up a project-based learning structure w/ kids w/ whom i struggled cfanch 1/4/11 7:26 PM The more I see PL the more I think it needs to done as PBL to be effective(at least at the secondary level) #edchat datadiva 1/4/11 7:26 PM @mgraffin here's my wiki on quality rubrics - shout if I can provide any specific examples! http://bit.ly/gWmVVk #edchat

daveandcori 1/4/11 7:26 PM @web20classroom @stumpteacher Individualizing education is easier with PBL/PL because students choose how they learn & demo mastery #edchat sandynay 1/4/11 7:26 PM RT @blairteach: @tomwhitby "Guide on the side" vs. "Sage on the stage" (Roger Taylor) #edchat #nswdet #austl web20classroom 1/4/11 7:26 PM @stumpteacher Yep. You have to take the time to make the connections and know each individual as well as the collective. #edchat reasoningmind 1/4/11 blended learning! #edchat 7:26 PM @ctuckerenglish yay for

raysadad 1/4/11 7:26 PM Reality! RT @chadsansing: #edchat kids who struggle will struggle until time passes; relationships form for safe buyin, incremental success Dave_Parkes 1/4/11 7:26 PM RT @jgmac1106: You can not force participatory learning. Not a matter of choosing correct pedagogy or lesson. Its about buidling a culture #edchat BABBIS22 1/4/11 7:27 PM Brilliant. RT@tomwhitby Participatory learning requires the teacher to guide students through the content and not throw it at them. #Edchat tshreve 1/4/11 7:27 PM @kfasimpaur Good assessments would look at PL as a piece of the total assessment picture #edchat mbteach 1/4/11 7:27 PM In K-2 I would allow for a lot of student choice, class discussion and participation in classroom rules/procedures and decisions #edchat doctorjeff #edchat 1/4/11 7:27 PM Jumping in 30 minutes late! uugh.

daveandcori 1/4/11 7:27 PM @pgeorge16 True - should have surprise evals too. Admin need to be in classrooms and not adversarial, but supportive to teacher #edchat jenniferbarnett 1/4/11 7:27 PM fantastic! Thanks for sharing! #edchat @datadiva Your wiki looks

devenkblack 1/4/11 7:27 PM @mbteach It didn't in the one time it worked for me. All I had to do was make rubrics and be around for guidance. #edchat tomwhitby 1/4/11 7:27 PM @blairteach I don't believe you were able to cite that quote. That is an oldie but goodie. #edchat

hshawjr 1/4/11 7:27 PM @westlakepotter aren't there days when you don't want to do the great lesson you have done because something happened at home? #edchat CTuckerEnglish 1/4/11 7:27 PM Good analogy. Guiding is our job more than disseminating knowledge. RT @mr_johansson: @CTuckerEnglish it's their journey.! #edchat wagga 1/4/11 7:27 PM counseling I bet #edchat @chadsansing with some one on one

padgets 1/4/11 7:27 PM @mbteach #edchat took me 3 years to plan and get ready, now not a whole lot of prep work chadsansing 1/4/11 7:27 PM #edchat my participatory learning timeline: it took kids 2-4 weeks to complete an initial project w/ low sophistication rodaniel 1/4/11 7:27 PM @reasoningmind recently a 10 y.o. discovered a supernova, I think that's real PL at work, #edchat Mr_Johansson1/4/11 7:27 PM it's a paid position... #edchat @mbteach Of course, but that's why

pschoolsystems 1/4/11 7:27 PM RT @tomwhitby: Participatory learning requires the teacher to guide the students through the content and not throw it at them. #Edchat MsBuell 1/4/11 7:27 PM I'm not sure I get the #edchat question--how else are kids going to learn if they don't participate? Do you mean project-based learning? web20classroom 1/4/11 7:27 PM @daveandcori @stumpteacher Well and that is the constructivist model as well.... #edchat reasoningmind 1/4/11 7:27 PM @edu_traveler from a 5sec peek that looks nice, but not in the classroom. Not something you can do daily. #edchat DahlD 1/4/11 7:27 PM I determine learning styles and Multiple Intelligences at the beginning of the year... it helps when focusing individual learning. #edchat cybraryman1 1/4/11 7:27 PM RT @mbteach: @edu_traveler yes, teacher as facilitator/coach/guide #edchat Edu_Traveler 1/4/11 7:28 PM @reasoningmind true. do the planning in the class, make the connections. building comes last. it can done! #edchat

doctorjeff 1/4/11 7:28 PM @pschoolsystems @tomwhitby I think participatory versus participating is question of ownership - who owns the exploration.#edchat Mr_Johansson1/4/11 7:28 PM @DahlD Now let them crate twitter accounts, and twitter about a day in the fish's life! #edchat nykat4 1/4/11 7:28 PM @ksivick me too. going so quickly! #edchat

brittgow 1/4/11 7:28 PM #edchat Some stds choose same things each time - need 2 B guidelines 2 ensure variety. Check out http://bit.ly/4aUhMZ Dare to Differentiate raysadad 1/4/11 7:28 PM RT @B_Wagoner: @Edu_Traveler I hate that assessment and test have become synonymous. A well-designed learning activity should BE an assessment. #edchat jeifling 1/4/11 7:28 PM RT @ndcollier: MS becomes 1st state to implement a #CivilRights curriculum for grades K-12: http://bit.ly/fmns0t via @AtlantaPost #BlackEdu #edchat milenagarg 1/4/11 7:28 PM project vs. product u get? #edchat how do you balance amt of time 2 do

cfanch 1/4/11 7:28 PM @DahlD it's nice to know learning styles then you can have an area with video, area with audio, area for direct teach, etc. #edchat reasoningmind 1/4/11 7:28 PM @rodaniel I think that depends on the process by which they discovered it. Good eyesight vs understanding what to look for. #edchat ksivick1/4/11 7:28 PM uugh. #edchat me too... fast RT @doctorjeff: Jumping in 30 minutes late!

eliza_peterson 1/4/11 7:28 PM I see PL as creating part of ur clsrm culture. Sts have a say in their learning process, not nec the curr - Freedom in Structure! #edchat mgraffin 1/4/11 7:28 PM @TheDSCWay I believe they run for 12 terms (primary/elementary) - students have a set time to work on it each week #edchat jgmac1106 1/4/11 7:28 PM @Dave_Parkes It goes back to the idea of Lave and Wengers Community of Practice. These communities can not be forced or created. #edchat

B_Wagoner 1/4/11 7:28 PM @Edu_Traveler I hate that assessment and test have become synonymous. A well-designed learning activity should BE an assessment. #edchat DahlD 1/4/11 7:28 PM I was blown away by a powerpoint one of my 2nd graders made about fish. Give them time the choices...and wow. #edchat wagga 1/4/11 7:28 PM @cybraryman1 @mbteach @edu_traveler Sage on the stage versus guide ont he side #edchat chadsansing 1/4/11 7:28 PM #edchat my participatory learning timeline: it's taken another year to enjoy choice & negotiation in almost all we do w/ improving products cybraryman1 1/4/11 7:29 PM My Self-Directed Learning page: http://www.cybraryman.com/selfdirectedlearning.html #edchat nykat4 1/4/11 7:29 PM my class voted to create a book for social studies proj. each pair chose an area, doing research, then teach the rest of the class #edchat hshawjr 1/4/11 7:29 PM @tshreve I think we have started n that dir, but still pretty weak on national stage as yet #edchat daveandcori 1/4/11 7:29 PM @mbteach More work planning, less work during class. I do a lot of PL/PBL & takes planning, but during class I interact w/ students #edchat devenkblack 1/4/11 7:29 PM @B_Wagoner @Edu_traveler Assessment should be a continuous process, not something set aside for a certain time or place. #edchat mtechman 1/4/11 7:29 PM RT @doctorjeff: @pschoolsystems @tomwhitby I think participatory versus participating is question of ownership who owns the exploration.#edchat CTuckerEnglish 1/4/11 7:29 PM I've found my online discussions are off the hook because my kids have time to respond. RT @jgmac1106: Thanks 4 retweet! #edchat sandynay 1/4/11 7:29 PM when do u have expect that students will use copyright free resources? Some teachers say too hard 2 teach 2 early?? #edchat pschoolsystems 1/4/11 7:29 PM Great philosophy! RT @hshawjr keep doing best we can and don't give up, you might be surprised sometimes toughest ones come around #edchat

stumpteacher 1/4/11 7:29 PM Participatory Learning also works nicely with standards based grading. Give the student the goal and them go at it individually. #edchat mtechman 1/4/11 7:29 PM as parent, I'm feeling less hope re PL in sec since I already see much less differentiation than in elem : ( #edchat eliza_peterson 1/4/11 7:29 PM YES! RT @micheleblueston: @eliza_peterson In order to gain control one must lose control. :) #edchat raysadad 1/4/11 7:29 PM RT @ndcollier: MS becomes 1st state to implement a #CivilRights curriculum for grades K-12: http://bit.ly/fmns0t via @AtlantaPost #BlackEdu #edchat MsBuell 1/4/11 7:29 PM To answer @tomwhitby and echo @mbteach students can learn a topic several different ways--we need to provide the choices #edchat monk51295 1/4/11 7:29 PM RT @stumpteacher: @daveandcori @web20classroom Choice is key... can't say that enough! http://bit.ly/grNJkk #edchat jgmac1106 1/4/11 7:29 PM @Dave_Parkes School have to build in a culture to support the development of participatory learning. Accountability biggest hurdle #edchat hshawjr 1/4/11 7:29 PM P/L skills have to be taught to both tchr & stdnts many so hide bound in present system dn't know how to make choices for themselves #edchat blairteach 1/4/11 7:29 PM @tomwhitby I participated in MANY workshops w/Roger Taylor; have heard that one repeatedly. :) #edchat baldy7 1/4/11 7:29 PM Ben sharing his five favorite photos of 2010. please comment and RT #5: http://bit.ly/a2xp1d #comments4kids #edchat #cpchat enrichingkids 1/4/11 7:29 PM RT @TeachingTrisha: RT @cpaterso: Subject matter is not in books. It is in the world. #edchat DahlD 1/4/11 7:29 PM Great idea! RT @mr_johansson: @DahlD Now let them crate twitter accounts, and twitter about a day in the fish's life! #edchat tshreve 1/4/11 7:29 PM @hshawjr @cpaterso Which is why educators need a political arm to battle with #edchat

chadsansing 1/4/11 7:29 PM @wagga #edchat participatory learning: it's not so much counseling kids as it is gut-checking yourself & your commitment to kids vs school TheDSCWay 1/4/11 7:29 PM @mgraffin neat! thanks! #edchat

tomwhitby 1/4/11 7:29 PM #Edchat participants should remember to follow on Twitter those from #Edchat who may add value to your PLN DahlD 1/4/11 7:29 PM @cfanch That's right. :) #edchat

tshreve 1/4/11 7:30 PM @hshawjr Agree - we are under attack on too many fronts from people who do NOT have students' best interests at heart #edchat enrichingkids 1/4/11 7:30 PM @eliza_peterson Happy Belated New Year! Plus how do you do that when ur director wants to see physical products all the time? #edchat blairteach 1/4/11 7:30 PM RT @stumpteacher: Participatory Lrng also works nicely w/standards based grading. Give std the goal & them go at it individually. #edchat bradhagkull 1/4/11 7:30 PM RT @mrwejr: Report Card - Kevin Falcon wants merit pay for B.C. teachers http://bit.ly/hKW25f umm... really Kevin? really? #edchat #bced mbteach 1/4/11 key. #edchat 7:30 PM @daveandcori I think planning is the

DahlD 1/4/11 7:30 PM grade. Never too early! #edchat

@sandynay We talk about copyright in 2nd

mgraffin 1/4/11 7:30 PM @TheDSCWay example 1http://www.kurwongbss.eq.edu.au/thinking/Contracts/contracts.htm #edchat BABBIS22 1/4/11 7:30 PM Amen! RT @stumpteacher It all goes back to finding what works for each student.Less about generalizations &more about individuals. #edchat medablog 1/4/11 7:30 PM @sairy @gteresa @mikemcmahonAUSD @Alamedasos @ADeBardeleben @swhitley @eecastro @mizlandry @nlayag Follow and join the discussion on #edchat devenkblack 1/4/11 #edchat 7:30 PM Tweetgrid need a reply all feature.

Akevy613 1/4/11 7:30 PM @eliza_peterson I like your def of PL it still gives students choices which I think is very important #edchat MsBuell 1/4/11 7:30 PM In #history I love having students analyze editorial cartoons--actually I love any question that doesn't have 1 "right" answer #edchat ksivick1/4/11 7:30 PM @sandynay I do wish there was one simple standard on every website to cite #edchat jenniferbarnett 1/4/11 7:30 PM RT @tomwhitby: #Edchat participants should remember to follow on Twitter those from #Edchat who may add value to your PLN chadsansing 1/4/11 7:30 PM @wagga #edchat i wasn't ready 2 try participatory learning 4 all students until i admitted 2 myself i was failing some in teaching & empathy carolgau 1/4/11 7:30 PM #edchat I think PL requires the student to think more - they can't just sit back and daydream during a lesson. doctorjeff 1/4/11 7:30 PM I think participatory learning doesn't even mean 'team learning'. I think it means that the learning is owned by student. #edchat cfanch 1/4/11 7:30 PM @milenagarg sometimes the project length pushes the product and vice versa. Either way it needs to fit(somewhere) in the curriculum #edchat rodaniel #edchat 1/4/11 7:30 PM @doctorjeff good luck, moving fast,

WackJacq 1/4/11 7:30 PM @web20classroom:-> My question is what to do when they really don't want to. AN answer-> Systematic response: tiers of interventions #edchat hshawjr 1/4/11 7:31 PM @tshreve yes and it will remain this way as long as $$$$ are at stake #edchat frtechcoach 1/4/11 7:31 PM PL is necessary but a lot of high performing students prefer drill and kill bc they are good at it and it is easier. #edchat DahlD 1/4/11 7:31 PM RT @monk51295: huge part of self-directed learning - self-assessing 24/7 #edchat doctorjeff 1/4/11 7:31 PM If the student owns the learning, they will bring their gifts and learning modalities to the table. It is not a forced experience. #edchat

nykat4 1/4/11 that! #edchat

7:31 PM

@espanateacher also good for kids to see

stumpteacher 1/4/11 7:31 PM If a student has to chose their learning path, they don't have the option to sit idle. How can learning not be increased? #edchat monk51295 1/4/11 7:31 PM self-assessing 24/7 #edchat huge part of self-directed learning -

kylepace 1/4/11 7:31 PM RT @mbteach: Does Participatory Learning make more work for the teacher? #edchat Edu_Traveler 1/4/11 7:31 PM @B_Wagoner well..standarized really. Unfortunately NY regents don't require any critical thinking skills..just content knowledge #edchat ChrisVacek 1/4/11 7:31 PM #edchat looking 4 structured, graduated, environment & student context sensitive participatory teaching and learning lesson plans. Got any? espanateacher 1/4/11 7:31 PM @chadsansing We used this for an "art workshop" last year. The kids and I loved it! http://teachingforartisticbehavior.org/ #edchat EngTeachChick 1/4/11 7:31 PM #edchat you can't always be right. it's okay to fail or screw up with projects or lessons. it's what we need to realize. trying is okay. rodaniel 1/4/11 7:31 PM @reasoningmind at the novice level, I'll take either one. if they make observations at all in algebra, I'm usually HAPPY, #edchat enrichingkids 1/4/11 7:31 PM @jgmac1106 Wht is Lave and Wengers Community of Practice? #edchat mbteach 1/4/11 7:31 PM @devenkblack do you think that access to tech/materials makes the teachers' job easier? #edchat hshawjr 1/4/11 7:31 PM @devenkblack it is the arrows in the post just hover over the tweet you want #edchat chadsansing 1/4/11 7:31 PM @wagga #edchat i think the discomfort of participatiry learning is overcome by commitment 2 kids & learning over traditional schema of schls

pschoolsystems 1/4/11 7:31 PM RT @chadsansing: @wagga #edchat i wasn't ready 2 try PL 4 all students until i admitted 2 myself i was failing some in teaching & empathy milenagarg 1/4/11 7:31 PM pushing my thinking (as usual) #edchat gotta bug out early! Thanks for

MariadeBruijn 1/4/11 7:31 PM Hopes and challenges of virtual education http://bit.ly/dR9WY6 #edchat #inspiringed Akevy613 1/4/11 7:31 PM RT @BABBIS22: Amen! RT @stumpteacher It all goes back to finding what works for each student.Less about generalizations &more about individuals. #edchat sandynay 1/4/11 7:31 PM RT @cybraryman1: My #Self-Directed #Learning page: http://bit.ly/9Z9VLW #edchat #self_directed #learning #nswdet #austl #tlchat mbteach 1/4/11 time spent #edchat 7:31 PM @padgets yes, planning is most of the

Patrick_Johner 1/4/11 7:31 PM Teaching Art & Creativity. Try this site for - Online #Art Games - http://alturl.com/ttydf #yeg #abed #edchat #creativity nykat4 1/4/11 7:31 PM choice is essential part of classroom, empowers and motivates #edchat blairteach 1/4/11 7:32 PM Most reasons tchrs give me for NOT doing more PL usually come down to inadequate procedures/routines for more active environment. #edchat tshreve 1/4/11 7:32 PM @doctorjeff @pschoolsystems @tomwhitby Ownership usually implies understanding - what we are shooting for #edchat MariadeBruijn 1/4/11 7:32 PM 2011. http://bit.ly/fzR2rN #edchat K-12 Technology trends for

ksivick1/4/11 7:32 PM RT @mbteach: Does a lack of access to resources make Participatory Learning more difficult? #edchat yes but a good teacher can work around cpaterso 1/4/11 7:32 PM Will someone go and get all the crappy teachers and get them into this discussion? #edchat MsBuell 1/4/11 7:32 PM Funny about "less work during class" @mbteach -- sometimes when the kids are really humming along I get a little bored, lol #edchat

daveandcori 1/4/11 7:32 PM @carolgau Very true. It makes learning more interactive and less passive. #edchat mbteach 1/4/11 7:32 PM @daveandcori yes, but more planning goes into PL than a worksheet :) #edchat mgraffin 1/4/11 7:32 PM RT @Mr_Johansson: @DahlD Now let them crate twitter accounts, and twitter about a day in the fish's life! #edchat stumpteacher 1/4/11 7:32 PM @kylepace @mbteach I don't think PL is more work but different work, not preparing PowerPoints but constructing questions/activities #edchat nykat4 1/4/11 7:32 PM @frtechcoach they are also ones who benefit once they let go of what they've experienced #edchat jgmac1106 1/4/11 7:32 PM To me participatory learning is ihavingstudents use the language and practices used in the discourses of different disciplines #edchat doctorjeff 1/4/11 7:32 PM own the exploration #edchat @reasoningmind the student should

mbteach 1/4/11 7:32 PM Does a lack of access to resources make Participatory Learning more difficult? #edchat cfanch 1/4/11 7:32 PM sometimes it's nice to let the students peer/self grade based upon the standards. Let them decide if they addressed it. #edchat ksivick1/4/11 7:32 PM RT @doctorjeff: If the student owns the learning, they will bring their gifts and learning modalities to the table. It is not a forced experience. #edchat doctorjeff 1/4/11 7:33 PM @tshreve @pschoolsystems @tomwhitby actually no. Ownership means they control the exploration, and they will build new knowledge. #edchat oline73 1/4/11 7:33 PM PL shouldn't be more than one of the three elements (curriculum design, lesson design, assessment) IMHO #edchat mbteach 1/4/11 7:33 PM So as someone asked earlier, what are some examples people can offer of PL activities/lessons/units? #edchat WackJacq 1/4/11 7:33 PM @daveandcori You are an awesome teacher then if you let the students think, decide, and create #edchat

ksivick1/4/11 7:33 PM RT @CTuckerEnglish: Explaining the "why" to kids is also crucial 2 engaging them in the learning process. Make the seemingly invisible visible for them. #edchat daveandcori 1/4/11 7:33 PM @stumpteacher @kylepace @mbteach Very true! But, does take more thought in a lot of ways. #edchat rodaniel 1/4/11 7:33 PM RT @mtechman: as parent, I'm feeling less hope re PL in sec since I already see much less differentiation than in elem : ( #edchat medablog 1/4/11 7:33 PM California state budget forecast more cuts to K-12 education. People of #Alameda will need to step up and invest in the schools. #edchat chadsansing 1/4/11 7:33 PM @espanateacher thanks for linkl i will delve in later; i love the workshop aspect & encouragement of artistic risktaking! #edchat HaileyErin 1/4/11 7:33 PM @doctorjeff @reasoningmind Is "owning the exploration" easier at a certain level of learning? Elementary, middle, high school? #edchat ljconrad 1/4/11 7:33 PM Educamp Vietnam Dec 2010 http://bit.ly/fZBBjT #gtchat #edtech #golbaled #edchat Patrick_Johner 1/4/11 7:33 PM 50 #Literacy Activities for #Babies - http://alturl.com/pc5zg #yeg #parenting #abed #edchat daveandcori 1/4/11 7:33 PM @mbteach :-) Amen! Which also means more planning goes into GOOD lessons. #edchat jenniferbarnett 1/4/11 7:33 PM @carolgau yes, thinking is the most active thing we could ask our students to do! #edchat hshawjr 1/4/11 7:33 PM @devenkblack true sorry :-) #edchat

Akevy613 1/4/11 7:33 PM As @chrislehman said the most important question we should b asking our stu. is What do you think?&let them explore & go from there #edchat monk51295 1/4/11 7:33 PM minimize individual selections (specialize) maximize global choices (adjacent possibilities) via @Kevin2Kelly #edchat CTuckerEnglish 1/4/11 7:33 PM Explaining the "why" to kids is also crucial 2 engaging them in the learning process. Make the seemingly invisible visible for them. #edchat

jgmac1106 1/4/11 7:33 PM @enrichingkids Its from Situated Learning. Their book. They studied apprenticships around the world. #edchat mtechman 1/4/11 7:33 PM @monk51295 and luring/supporting students as they move away from old (reinforced) passive mode of learning #edchat doctorjeff 1/4/11 7:33 PM We have a participatory learning pgm. Students design experiments to fly on the Space Shuttle. They OWN it. http://ssep.ncesse.org #edchat andreamiller20 1/4/11 7:33 PM @kylepace @mbteach It's not more work, but there is a learning curve for the teacher. #edchat reasoningmind 1/4/11 7:33 PM @rodaniel but then we have drills again. Column addition before place values, to take it to math. #edchat devenkblack 1/4/11 7:33 PM @hshawjr That replies to one person in the tweet, not all the people mentioned in the tweet. #edchat jgmac1106 1/4/11 7:34 PM Students are always participating in the discourse of schooling. To me its a matter of hpw democratic are your classroom practices. #edchat mgraffin 1/4/11 7:34 PM @mbteach Try this - learning contract idea http://www.cap.nsw.edu.au/teachers/tech_based_resources/tech_based_resour ces.htm #edchat chadsansing 1/4/11 7:34 PM @wagga #edchat agreed: there is a trust issue with districts, but the most important trust issue for me is with kids & valuing their wonder andreamiller20 1/4/11 7:34 PM But you don't have to wait in line at the copier! :) @mbteach @daveandcori yes, but more planning goes into PL than a worksheet :) #edchat monk51295 1/4/11 7:34 PM @mtechman yes - we're calling that detox, adults need it as much and more #edchat sguditus 1/4/11 7:34 PM Students should have some choice, but teachers determine mastery and the options of content and skills. #edchat CTuckerEnglish 1/4/11 7:34 PM Creation- isn't that at the top of Bloom's Revised Taxonomy? Great teachers make it happen!RT @WackJacq: @daveandcori #edchat

TNSAllStars 1/4/11 7:34 PM RT @DailyParentTip: RT @MarjieKnudsen Anti-Bullying Program Reduces Kids' Gossip http://bit.ly/ear5Qx v @DrDavidBallard #edchat #bullying #parenting shelleypa 1/4/11 7:34 PM @mbteach often lack of resources translates to lack of risk taking, awareness of what's out there, and fear of doing differently #edchat daveandcori 1/4/11 7:34 PM What's the website to see the archive for #edchat ? I keep forgetting to bookmark it. MsBuell 1/4/11 7:34 PM Agree w/ @jgmac1106 about using what you've learned in other classes and applying it in a new way-- works great in my #ss electives #edchat doctorjeff 1/4/11 7:34 PM @HaileyErin @reasoningmind I think ownership works well at all grade levels. But the gift of their questions will be different. #edchat enrichingkids 1/4/11 7:34 PM that stop the process? #edchat @blairteach How so? Is it their rules

mtechman 1/4/11 7:34 PM I'm hoping I get the structure right so I can learn beside them, modeling following interests, seeing connections #edchat devenkblack 1/4/11 7:34 PM @mbteach Access to materials, absolutely. Half my work is having to scrounge materials, tech and other stuff I'm not provided. #edchat 2footgiraffe 1/4/11 7:34 PM RT @WackJacq: @daveandcori You are an awesome teacher then if you let the students think, decide, and create #edchat jgmac1106 1/4/11 7:34 PM My definition of particaptory learning: my 2 yr old just climbed on my lap and wants to go do ABc's on Youtube. #edchat reasoningmind 1/4/11 7:34 PM @doctorjeff what does this ownership entail? I think the student should own the learning, but the exploration is the teacher's. #edchat nykat4 1/4/11 7:35 PM RT @daveandcori: @shelleypa @mbteach Many teachers also don't know how to create these activities either. We need to support them and help them. #edchat Edu_Traveler 1/4/11 7:35 PM Participatory Learning in Action at the NY Botanical Gardens http://t.co/x8JEO9E #edchat

mbteach 1/4/11 7:35 PM @JenniferBarnett true, there is a learning curve involved when you switch gears #edchat doctorjeff 1/4/11 7:35 PM @reasoningmind as an example, in science, if a teacher hands out the procedures for expt - no science will be done that day. #edchat daveandcori 1/4/11 7:35 PM @shelleypa @mbteach Many teachers also don't know how to create these activities either. We need to support them and help them. #edchat stumpteacher 1/4/11 7:35 PM @daveandcori @kylepace @mbteach Yes, more thought for sure. Less time at copier though and front of classroom! #edchat wagga 1/4/11 7:35 PM @chadsansing Sounds like being an "organization subversive" #edchat tshreve 1/4/11 7:35 PM @doctorjeff @pschoolsystems @tomwhitby To me, ownership is when I understand it well enough to use it #edchat reasoningmind 1/4/11 7:35 PM RT @brianbaron13: All of the great ideas here are easier in a collaborative teaching environment -- PLCs, etc. #edchat hshawjr 1/4/11 7:35 PM Q. how does P/L get integrated into SpecialEd which has to be research based instruction? #edchat MariadeBruijn 1/4/11 7:35 PM What the research says about technology in schools http://bit.ly/gVGg4S #edchat mbteach 1/4/11 7:35 PM copy is my rubrics! #edchat @andreamiller20 hah! The only thing I

espanateacher 1/4/11 7:35 PM @cpaterso "Teachers provide a feedback loop linking student ? back 2 the group learning." #edchat - I like that! We created "Flitter." jenniferbarnett 1/4/11 7:35 PM Depends on now practiced one is in PL. RT @kylepace: RT @mbteach: Does Participatory Learning make more work for the teacher? #edchat aaallain 1/4/11 7:35 PM RT @doctorjeff: @reasoningmind the student should own the exploration #edchat rodaniel 1/4/11 7:35 PM @milenagarg Thanks! #edchat

nykat4 1/4/11 7:35 PM kids see us taking risks & trying out diff ways to teach, shows them risk taking is ok. #edchat doctorjeff 1/4/11 7:35 PM @reasoningmind I completely disagree. The exploration must be owned by the student. #edchat aaallain 1/4/11 7:35 PM When a student is engaged in the learning process they tend to show you their "best." One of the benefits of alt. assessments #edchat brianbaron13 1/4/11 7:35 PM All of the great ideas here are easier in a collaborative teaching environment -- PLCs, etc. #edchat cpaterso 1/4/11 7:35 PM Teacher should set up the exploration/story for the students and than adapt it based on their feedback. #edchat nykat4 1/4/11 7:36 PM @mbteach and teachers have to be willing to ride that learning curve! #edchat WackJacq 1/4/11 7:36 PM @chadsansing I train my students on how 2 use Rubistar, then accapt or reject their RUBRICS until they get it rt or demand my help. #edchat espanateacher 1/4/11 7:36 PM link. I'll have to check it out! #edchat @stumpteacher Thanks for the

mgraffin 1/4/11 7:36 PM @blairteach Lack of structure is the hardest part. I'd like to give it a go my class one day - but planning the structure is hard #edchat chadsansing 1/4/11 7:36 PM #edchat as @devenblack notes, much ed happens outside schl; do we count offsite PL? incorporate it? could we count it/make time for arts? doctorjeff 1/4/11 7:36 PM @tshreve @pschoolsystems @tomwhitby again, disagree. You don't need to understand it at all to have ownership in the process. #edchat CTuckerEnglish 1/4/11 7:36 PM The same way it is important 4 them to see us struggle at times. Learning is a practiced skill! Teachers practice too. RT @nykat4: . #edchat mtechman 1/4/11 7:36 PM @hshawjr lots of research on power of choice, especially free choice reading #edchat daveandcori 1/4/11 7:36 PM @mbteach @devenkblack I agree - I do a lot of scrounging for ideas, web sites, and matl's - thank goodness for DonorsChoose #edchat

mbteach 1/4/11 7:36 PM @daveandcori @shelleypa very true. It's easy to say "do this" but we need to guide teachers like we would guide our students #edchat rodaniel 1/4/11 7:36 PM RT @stumpteacher: @kylepace @mbteach I don't think PL is more work but different work, not preparing PowerPoints but constructing questions/activities #edchat DoremiGirl 1/4/11 7:36 PM RT @mbteach: @andreamiller20 hah! The only thing I copy is my rubrics! <~ I share it on GDoc (school-wide Google apps!) #edchat ToughLoveforX 1/4/11 7:36 PM @chadsansing Hi Chad, Just a quick Q. My sense is the skill set/attitude needed for PL might be Project Management. Any thgts? #edchat eliza_peterson 1/4/11 7:36 PM @enrichingkids Many projects turn into physical products or digital. But I always have a camera or audio recorder handy too. #edchat mr_isaacs 1/4/11 7:36 PM #edchat I have been successful w/ PK in game design course. Content lends well to development teams and DI. cfanch 1/4/11 7:36 PM at secondary level most students need to know that they don't know something before they willingly learn it. That's PBL not PL IMHO #edchat jenniferbarnett 1/4/11 7:36 PM Yes, in the beginning. RT @kylepace: RT @mbteach: Does Participatory Learning make more work for the teacher? #edchat monk51295 1/4/11 7:36 PM RT @chadsansing: @wagga #edchat agreed: there is a trust issue with districts, but the most important trust issue for me is with kids & valuing their wonder tshreve 1/4/11 differently #edchat 7:37 PM @doctorjeff We were looking at it

daveandcori 1/4/11 7:37 PM @WackJacq I do this for part of time. Sometimes I still have to lecture and do labs, but do PBL/PL whenever I can. #edchat mtechman 1/4/11 7:37 PM @ToughLoveforX @chadsansing agree re Project Mgmt being a key skill-want to know more, learn from others, contra fear! #edchat stumpteacher 1/4/11 7:37 PM PL would be high with Bloom -->great visual http://bit.ly/9LaIHb thanks to @ktenkely #edchat

WackJacq 1/4/11 7:37 PM @mbteach More thought is required on the teacher's part which can be exhausting, but gets better with practice. #edchat DahlD 1/4/11 7:37 PM RT @larrydlp: For some subjects, rigor is important. But PL motivates, inspires and reinforces. #edchat ImagineLearning 1/4/11 7:37 PM The difference 1 year makes: If youre like me, youre wondering where 2010 has gone. The New Year ... http://bit.ly/dXQx59 #edchat #edu TheDSCWay 1/4/11 7:37 PM leanring contracts? #edchat doea anyone is the united states use

ksivick1/4/11 7:37 PM #edchat......we need more teacher/peer led participatory PD....show ,then do ,together, not enough teachers are able to appropriately model porchdragon 1/4/11 7:37 PM @doctorjeff absolutely agree. Student ownership of their own learning is the most important part of their education. #edchat larrydlp 1/4/11 7:37 PM For some subjects, rigor is important. But PL motivates, inspires and reinforces. #edchat DoremiGirl 1/4/11 7:37 PM @daveandcori @shelleypa @mbteach If you work on a integrated lesson, other teachers will learn. #edchat hshawjr 1/4/11 7:37 PM Sustained Reading venue :-) #edchat @mtechman that is the Silent

doctorjeff 1/4/11 7:37 PM @tshreve you are confusing ownership in knowledge with ownership in process. #edchat ashleydburleson 1/4/11 7:37 PM RT @shelleypa: @mbteach often lack of resources translates to lack of risk taking, awareness of what's out there, and fear of doing differently #edchat orchfan 1/4/11 7:37 PM @mbteach I teach orchestra and have the students produce all aspects of a concert or event. #edchat shelleypa 1/4/11 7:37 PM @daveandcori #edchat I agree - need good models and/or mentors. What about higher grade levels modeling and coleading younger students? mgraffin 1/4/11 7:37 PM RT @oline73: PL shouldn't be more than one of the three elements (curriculum design, lesson design, assessment) IMHO #edchat

rodaniel 1/4/11 7:37 PM @blairteach Good point, think experience with approach also an issue, #edchat oline73 1/4/11 7:37 PM @sguditus Absolutely agree. Too much freedom is even worse than no freedom (although both stink). #edchat Edu_Traveler 1/4/11 7:37 PM @CTuckerEnglish @WackJacq @daveandcori EXACTLY! I want students to be at the top all the time! #edchat cpaterso 1/4/11 7:37 PM RT @stumpteacher: I don't think PL is more work but different work, not preparing PowerPoints but constructing questions/activities #edchat wagga 1/4/11 7:37 PM @monk51295 @chadsansing I agree as well, but much depends on the confidence level of the educator #edchat doctorjeff 1/4/11 7:37 PM @tshreve @pschoolsystems @tomwhitby How about " I wonder what is under that rock?" #edchat stumpteacher 1/4/11 7:38 PM RT @cpaterso: @porchdragon Students need to own the learning but the teacher is the expert in terms of curriculum design. #edchat pschoolsystems 1/4/11 7:38 PM @doctorjeff @tshreve @tomwhitby I agree with @doctorjeff Ownership doesn't always imply understanding. #edchat stumpteacher 1/4/11 7:38 PM work for student learning #edchat PL my be hard work but it is better

BABBIS22 1/4/11 7:38 PM What do u do when your District is ALL about the "numbers"&playing the popularity game?PL doesn't stand a chance in that environment #edchat cpaterso 1/4/11 7:38 PM @porchdragon Students need to own the learning but the teacher is the expert in terms of curriculum design. #edchat mbteach 1/4/11 7:38 PM @DoremiGirl @daveandcori @shelleypa yes, modeling is very important. Win them over :) #edchat doctorjeff 1/4/11 7:38 PM @tshreve agreed #edchat

doctorjeff 1/4/11 7:38 PM RT @porchdragon: @doctorjeff absolutely agree. Student ownership of their own learning is the most important part of their education. #edchat

jenniferbarnett 1/4/11 7:38 PM @mbteach But the learning curves get easier to take with experience. (Wish it was the same with stuff like roller coasters, etc.) #edchat rodaniel 1/4/11 7:38 PM @reasoningmind but let kids determine their own strategy rather than mandating, let them regroup instead of count on if they want, #edchat whartonag #edchat 1/4/11 7:38 PM @mbteach what does PZl stand for?

reasoningmind 1/4/11 7:38 PM @doctorjeff I see what you're saying. I was thinking that deciding the direction/experiment itself determines the ownership. #edchat espanateacher 1/4/11 7:38 PM RT@tomwhitby How can we allow kids to control their learning when we must cover the curriculum? #Edchat devenkblack 1/4/11 7:38 PM @daveandcori I love DonorsChoose, but they're not something I can rely on for day-to-day lesson planning. #edchat mbteach 1/4/11 7:38 PM RT @orchfan: @mbteach I teach orchestra and have the students produce all aspects of a concert or event. #edchat <--love that! EngTeachChick 1/4/11 7:38 PM #edchat is there a difference between PBL and PL? from the convo, I don't see it. wzuber 1/4/11 7:38 PM RT @KristinGiron: Two years ago I started Literature Circles in senior English. Students teach the novel to class by using Web 2.0 tools. Great PL! #edchat CTuckerEnglish 1/4/11 7:39 PM Teachers must be creative&innovative b4 they can successfully support students in creation. We need to continually push ourselves. #edchat jenniferbarnett 1/4/11 7:39 PM @datadiva Great! I'm making a note of it and followed you as well. We dig rubrics at my PBL school. #edchat doctorjeff 1/4/11 7:39 PM we are all born wired for participatory learning. I think the traditional environment of education can dramatically constrain that. #edchat WackJacq 1/4/11 7:39 PM @daveandcori Let loose the admins altogether..Admins R 2 bureaucratic. We need teacher mentors, trainers, -like the medical model #edchat

mgraffin 1/4/11 7:39 PM Greatest lesson I learnt - in a Yr 3 Under the Sea unit. - Ask students and parents to get involved http://bit.ly/hiSvdb #edchat pschoolsystems 1/4/11 7:39 PM @doctorjeff @tshreve @tomwhitby Often times one takes ownership and along the way comes knowledge, mastery or understanding. #edchat web20classroom 1/4/11 7:39 PM RT @sguditus: Teachers should be able to dictate their curriculum, as long as community/state standards are being met. #edchat -Yep... rodaniel 1/4/11 7:39 PM RT @doctorjeff what does this ownership entail? I think the student should own the learning, but the exploration is the teacher's. #edchat\ daveandcori 1/4/11 7:39 PM RT @stumpteacher: PL my be hard work but it is better work for student learning #edchat Very True! chadsansing 1/4/11 7:39 PM @WackJacq #edchat do you negotiate what "get it right" means? are rubrics 4 a set genre? are they drawn from collab talk or peer fdbck? jgmac1106 1/4/11 7:39 PM When online or in blended learning models there is much to learn about participatory learning by watching Gee's "affinity spaces" #edchat sguditus 1/4/11 7:39 PM Teachers should be able to dictate their curriculum, as long as community/state standards are being met. #edchat reasoningmind 1/4/11 7:39 PM RT @cpaterso: @porchdragon Students need to own the learning but the teacher is the expert in terms of curriculum design. #edchat mbteach 1/4/11 7:39 PM @whartonag Participatory Learning. http://bit.ly/4GbR7t Join the conversation by using the hashtag #edchat. It's over at 8pm whartonag 1/4/11 PL ? #edchat 7:39 PM @whartonag @mbteach I meant to say

ABTechTeachers 1/4/11 7:39 PM RT @Patrick_Johner: 50 #Literacy Activities for #Babies - http://alturl.com/pc5zg #yeg #parenting #abed #edchat CTuckerEnglish 1/4/11 7:39 PM Totally! But it is new 4 many students 2 be asked 2 create. RT @Edu_Traveler: @CTuckerEnglish @WackJacq @daveandcori! #edchat

DoremiGirl 1/4/11 7:39 PM RT @mbteach: RT @orchfan: @mbteach I teach orchestra and have the students produce all aspects of a concert or event. #edchat <--yes! stumpteacher 1/4/11 7:40 PM @TheDSCWay Sometimes, but hard work in the wrong direction is counterproductive in more ways than one. I prefer smart work #edchat chadsansing 1/4/11 7:40 PM @mtechman @ToughLoveforX how we manage interdisciplinary work: detailed expository design doc; product=kid's vision, choice of media #edchat ABTechTeachers 1/4/11 7:40 PM RT @Patrick_Johner: Teaching Art & Creativity. Try this site for - Online #Art Games - http://alturl.com/ttydf #yeg #abed #edchat #creativity Edu_Traveler 1/4/11 7:40 PM @CTuckerEnglish @WackJacq @daveandcori Start small..a short assignment at an end of a unit..start by just giving choices #edchat wagga 1/4/11 BIG! #edchat 7:40 PM @cybraryman1 @sguditus Should be!!This is

rodaniel 1/4/11 7:40 PM RT @nykat4: @mbteach and teachers have to be willing to ride that learning curve! #edchat espanateacher 1/4/11 7:40 PM @cpaterso I created a wiki (called it Flitter), & elem. students use it like Twitter. It doesn't auto refresh, but worked well. #edchat porchdragon 1/4/11 7:40 PM Gotta read all the backchatter Feel bad. Just getting to #edchat late.

raysadad 1/4/11 7:40 PM RT @BABBIS22: What do u do when your District is ALL about the "numbers"&playing the popularity game?PL doesn't stand a chance in that environment #edchat daveandcori 1/4/11 7:40 PM @BABBIS22 True. But, you can use PL for some parts of your lessons and still play the game. #edchat web20classroom 1/4/11 7:40 PM RT @devenkblack: Students & teachers each have to adjust to make PL work. Students don't always trust it either. #edchat mbteach 1/4/11 this together" #edchat 7:40 PM @monk51295 kind of like "we're in

devenkblack 1/4/11 7:40 PM Students & teachers each have to adjust to make PL work. Students don't always trust it either. #edchat ksivick1/4/11 7:40 PM so true on the ownership not equaling understanding, some kids happy to own that C..it's passing...challenge is how to inspire #edchat reasoningmind 1/4/11 7:40 PM RT @doremigirl: RT @orchfan: @mbteach I teach orchestra and have the students produce all aspects of a concert or event. #edchat <--yes! doctorjeff 1/4/11 7:40 PM RT @pschoolsystems: @doctorjeff @tshreve @tomwhitby Often times one takes ownership and along the way comes knowledge, mastery or understanding. #edchat TheDSCWay 1/4/11 7:40 PM @stumpteacher Doesn't "the harder the work the better the result" ususally apply? #edchat PLANETPALS 1/4/11 7:40 PM TY4RT @baisebeige: #Habitats #Biomes #Forests #Ecosystems Simplified! http://plpls.com/eK0bnK #ecomonday #ece #edchat #homeschool cybraryman1 1/4/11 7:40 PM RT @sguditus: Teachers should be able to dictate their curriculum, as long as community/state standards are being met. #edchat daveandcori 1/4/11 7:40 PM @cpaterso @porchdragon And teacher should guide students in their learning, but still give them freedom #edchat mtechman 1/4/11 7:41 PM RT @jgmac1106: Simply having tech, a computer connection and/or an online discussion does not equate participatory learning. #edchat carolgau 1/4/11 7:41 PM #edchat - PL ex:grade 6 science: energy source - what is it, pos&neg on humans and envir. and create something to show your info. mgraffin 1/4/11 we face #edchat 7:41 PM @espanateacher This is the dilemma

CTuckerEnglish 1/4/11 7:41 PM Choice is key. It gets them excited. RT @Edu_Traveler: @CTuckerEnglish @WackJacq @daveandcori start by just giving choices #edchat DoremiGirl 1/4/11 7:41 PM Agree! RT @devenkblack: Students & teachers each have to adjust to make PL work. Students don't always trust it either. #edchat

jenniferbarnett 1/4/11 7:41 PM a link to your "Flitter" ? #edchat sounds cool...

@espanateacher Can you share

padgets 1/4/11 7:41 PM #edchat my kids hated it at first because I did not tell them how to learn, took awhile, had to ease in, by 2nd qtr, most were ok TheDSCWay 1/4/11 7:41 PM @stumpteacher Good point! #edchat

oline73 1/4/11 7:41 PM @stumpteacher Teachers really should be lesson design experts too, no? Kids usually don't study cognitive sci, retention data, etc. #edchat wagga 1/4/11 7:41 PM @jgmac1106 Definitely not! #edchat

daveandcori 1/4/11 7:41 PM @WackJacq I agree. Teacher mentors are needed. Unfortunately, many mentors don't have time to really mentor. #edchat espanateacher 1/4/11 7:41 PM RT @lisamonthie: How would 1 assess the variety of choices? How would one organize that? I struggled w/the preps I had not including multiple choices #edchat deb_norton 1/4/11 7:41 PM out artistic talents! #edchat #elemchat http://bit.ly/fwEcsf An site to bring

doctorjeff 1/4/11 7:41 PM When I explore a brave new word - MY WORLD - then **I** want to ask the questions. Don't deny me ownership in MY explorations. #edchat WackJacq 1/4/11 7:41 PM Student Blogging is a great way for students to demonstrate knoledge and skills acquired in simultaneously diverse learning #edchat BABBIS22 1/4/11 7:41 PM RT @cpaterso Will someone go get all the crappy teachers&get them into this discussion? #edchat /Get the parents that accept status quo too! OnCourseTX 1/4/11 7:41 PM RT @web20classroom: RT @devenkblack: Students & teachers each have to adjust to make PL work. Students don't always trust it either. #edchat sguditus 1/4/11 7:41 PM We should eliminate grading altogether to engage students for learning sake, through authenticity. #edchat hshawjr 1/4/11 7:41 PM @devenkblack or even like P/L many students just see P/L as "more" work for them #edchat

blairteach 1/4/11 7:41 PM RT @doctorjeff: we are all born wired for PL. I think the traditional environment of edu can dramatically constrain that. #edchat pschoolsystems 1/4/11 7:41 PM @doctorjeff @tshreve @tomwhitby You all have interesting perspectives. #edchat jgmac1106 1/4/11 7:41 PM Simply having tech, a computer connection and/or an online discussion does not equate participatory learning. #edchat mbteach 1/4/11 7:42 PM @ksivick sometimes we need to let our students know that we won't let them get away with a "C." #edchat wagga 1/4/11 7:42 PM @chadsansing @monk51295 this sounds like a more controllable approach #edchat stumpteacher 1/4/11 7:42 PM @oline73 teachers still construct the learning activities and choice is built within. Teachers is still a guide and crucial. #edchat MariadeBruijn 1/4/11 7:42 PM Catholic schools try all-boys program. http://bit.ly/fzSAj9 Shouldn't the vision for these classrooms be available to all students? #edchat Edu_Traveler 1/4/11 7:42 PM @sguditus some of us need the answer to 'how am I doing?' but grading that is more holistic and inclusive of students' thinking. #edchat jenniferbarnett 1/4/11 7:42 PM Absolutely! RT @CTuckerEnglish: Choice is key. RT @Edu_Traveler: @CTuckerEnglish @WackJacq @daveandcori start by just giving choices #edchat monk51295 1/4/11 7:42 PM @mbteach exactly. & sometimes the together is just learning, while we're doing completely different things to learn #edchat jgmac1106 1/4/11 7:42 PM RT @doctorjeff: we are all born wired for participatory learning. I think the traditional environment of education can dramatically constrain that. #edchat ksivick1/4/11 7:42 PM AMEN-> RT @doctorjeff: Here I think is one problem. The classroom does not belong to the teacher - it belongs to the students. #edchat mtechman 1/4/11 7:42 PM everything you say ; ) #edchat @chadsansing turns out I can retweet

WackJacq 1/4/11 7:42 PM @mbteach In addition to planning...REFLECT, REFLECT REFLECT #edchat nykat4 1/4/11 7:42 PM @orchfan absolutely - choice to demonstrate knowledge big on my list #edchat web20classroom 1/4/11 7:42 PM RT @doctorjeff: Here I think is one problem. The classroom does not belong to the teacher - it belongs to the students. #edchat -Agreed. espanateacher 1/4/11 7:42 PM RT @HaileyErin: @sammorra This segues into a question I have: is there a clear distinction btwn self-directed learning and participatory learning? #edchat janastasiow 1/4/11 7:42 PM RT @cybraryman1: RT @sguditus: Teachers should be able to dictate their curriculum, as long as community/state standards are being met. #edchat doctorjeff 1/4/11 7:42 PM Here I think is one problem. The classroom does not belong to the teacher - it belongs to the students. #edchat mtechman 1/4/11 7:42 PM RT @chadsansing: @mtechman @ToughLoveforX how we manage interdisciplinary work: detailed expository design doc; product=kid's vision, choice of media #edchat espanateacher 1/4/11 7:42 PM RT @EngTeachChick: #edchat facilitating doesn't mean giving up control. many teachers don't give enough guidance and some too many. moderation is key smithmll 1/4/11 7:42 PM RT @web20classroom: RT @hshawjr: Student need to learn what they don't know and learn what they do know and get to know what they want to learn #edchat reasoningmind 1/4/11 7:42 PM @cybraryman1 @sguditus: "Teachers should be able to dictate their curriculum" that's tricky. #edchat chadsansing 1/4/11 7:42 PM @wagga @monk51295 totally; from my biz reading, i suggest getting 80% mentally ready & figuring out the rest w/ kids #edchat nykat4 1/4/11 7:42 PM i second that ! RT @JenniferBarnett: @espanateacher Can you share a link to your "Flitter" ? #edchat sounds cool... orchfan 1/4/11 7:42 PM @tomwhitby how about giving choices about how to acquire or demonstrate the given content? #edchat

nykat4 1/4/11 7:43 PM @DoremiGirl need to be scaffolded along the way, from young ages with more scaffolding so as get older more willing to take risks #edchat brittgow 1/4/11 7:43 PM @DoremiGirl Agree, some want to take the easy way out every time #edchat mbteach 1/4/11 7:43 PM @WackJacq yes, important that we think about what we are doing just like we would expect our students to do! #edchat oline73 #edchat 1/4/11 7:43 PM @stumpteacher Absolutely agree.

marynabadenhors 1/4/11 7:43 PM Lack of resources make participatory learning more difficult e.g. lack of school funds to buy technology & support 4 tchrs #edchat @mbteach enrichingkids 1/4/11 7:43 PM @jgmac1106 How cool! I am sure they have alot of great ideas. Thanks for sharing! #edchat jgmac1106 1/4/11 7:43 PM want see to the power of participatory learning watch the lie lessons learned on ball fields or in student council. Xtracurric !! #edchat sandynay 1/4/11 7:43 PM @DahlD digital work starts early ...is year 2 early enough for introducing #copyright? #edchat model in kinder and yr1? #tlchat rodaniel 1/4/11 accountability? #edchat 7:43 PM @sguditus thats a big jump, what

whartonag 1/4/11 7:43 PM @mbteach ohh ok thanks. Have not heard of PL in that context before. Am enjoying reading all of the tweeds. #edchat carolgau 1/4/11 7:43 PM @mbteach @devenkblack do you think that access to tech/materials makes the teachers' job easier? #edchat<-- it is about how you use the tech Edu_Traveler 1/4/11 7:43 PM @jgmac1106 True. It's about what the students are doing not what the teacher is doing or the equipment in the room #edchat lookforsun 1/4/11 7:43 PM @oline73 #edchat I think it needs to be developmentally appropriate and a balanced approach: essential skills, student-directed, community.

InvasiveNotes 1/4/11 7:43 PM RT @doctorjeff: Here I think is one problem. The classroom does not belong to the teacher - it belongs to the students. #edchat sguditus 1/4/11 7:43 PM @Edu_Traveler I suppose it all depends on one's definition of "grading." #edchat DoremiGirl 1/4/11 7:43 PM @padgets I've see how making a choice, processing their choice and planning is hard for some of my Ss. Impt for tchr to recognize #edchat devenkblack 1/4/11 7:43 PM RT @mbteach: @ksivick sometimes we need to let our students know that we won't let them get away with a "C." #edchat reasoningmind 1/4/11 7:43 PM I have found that there are quite a few teachers lacking in both content knowledge and motivation. @cybraryman1 @sguditus #edchat DahlD 1/4/11 7:43 PM RT @mbteach: @ksivick sometimes we need to let our students know that we won't let them get away with a "C." #edchat TheDSCWay 1/4/11 7:43 PM RT @doctorjeff: Here I think is one problem. The classroom does not belong to the teacher - it belongs to the students. AMEN! #edchat chadsansing 1/4/11 7:44 PM @ToughLoveforX i remember your chops :) check out @pblhq's work; i'm hoping to pick his brain at #educon someday #edchat aleaness 1/4/11 7:44 PM RT @ksivick: @mbteach so true, can't lallow a C when you know you can get so much more, not about the grade it's about tapping into their passion #edchat carolgau 1/4/11 7:44 PM @BABBIS22 #edchat Students will learn what they need to know using PL, so your district should be okay with this. Tales2Go 1/4/11 7:44 PM A FREE Tales2Go subscription for EVERY #school, #homeschool or other ed.prog. Exp. Jan 15 http://j.mp/i4Ro6A #iear #edapps #edchat #elemchat DahlD 1/4/11 7:44 PM @sandynay I think it should be introduced as soon as digital work starts. #edchat lookforsun 1/4/11 7:44 PM @lisamonthie #edchat - start with one participatory project that includes essential skills, student interest areas and multiple avenues.

ksivick1/4/11 7:44 PM @mbteach so true, can't lallow a C when you know you can get so much more, not about the grade it's about tapping into their passion #edchat TeachTec 1/4/11 7:44 PM RT @mbteach: @ksivick sometimes we need to let our students know that we won't let them get away with a "C." #edchat ToughLoveforX 1/4/11 7:44 PM @chadsansing Back in the day, I found an ever changing but crystal clear agreement on success criteria helped the most. #edchat @mtechman doctorjeff 1/4/11 7:44 PM In the Student Spaceflight Experiments Program, we got exceptional experiment design from 5th graders! Flying on Space Shuttle!! #edchat stangea 1/4/11 7:44 PM @doctorjeff or rather learning should belong to the student, as long as adults define curriculum children are just asked to "buy in" #edchat espanateacher 1/4/11 7:44 PM @tomwhitby I'd love for them to be learners, but many kids have entry tests for middle school. How can we do both? #edchat tomwhitby 1/4/11 7:44 PM @orchfan Your choice of choices may be limiting. Students may have ways to do things beyond your experience in Technology. #edchat rodaniel 1/4/11 7:44 PM RT @reasoningmind: @cybraryman1 @sguditus: "Teachers should be able to dictate their curriculum" that's tricky. #edchat raysadad 1/4/11 7:44 PM @doctorjeff Some would argue it belongs to neither, but to society. #edchat just sayin' espanateacher 1/4/11 7:45 PM @eliza_peterson I agree, but can true learning happen in 180 days? How can we develop a culture of learning? #edchat wagga 1/4/11 7:45 PM @daveandcori @jgmac1106 @doctorjeff Definitely! Difficult to pull off! #edchat ToughLoveforX 1/4/11 7:45 PM @chadsansing I've seen lots of unnecessary effort and many failed projects. Very similar problems in most. #edchat @mtechman doctorjeff 1/4/11 7:45 PM We provide the light #edchat

nykat4 1/4/11 7:45 PM @tomwhitby @orchfan for that I use a 'or negotiated option' box so can talk about their idea- if seem to know what they are doing-ok #edchat doctorjeff 1/4/11 7:45 PM If we give them the freedom to ask, to probe, to fail, to succeed, to try something out of *our* left field - they will learn. #edchat stumpteacher 1/4/11 7:45 PM @sguditus So much research out there about grades NOT motivating kids... #edchat mtechman 1/4/11 7:45 PM RT @tomwhitby: @orchfan Your choice of choices may be limiting. Students may have ways to do things beyond your experience in Technology. #edchat tomwhitby 1/4/11 7:45 PM @orchfan If you require a presentation in Powerpoint you are eliminating a host of possibilities in other web 2.0 Apps. #edchat jgmac1106 1/4/11 7:45 PM @enrichingkids Other folks to read if interested in participatory learning: Gee, Greeno, Jenkins, Hickey #edchat cpaterso 1/4/11 7:45 PM @stangea Adults are the experts. We know something that the students don't. #edchat daveandcori 1/4/11 7:45 PM @jgmac1106 @doctorjeff Students want to explore and learn what interests them. Most school settings constrain this. #edchat sguditus 1/4/11 7:45 PM There are ways to determine accountability and provide feedback without grades: http://www.alfiekohn.org/teaching/fdtd-g.htm #edchat lookforsun 1/4/11 7:45 PM @WackJacq #edchat Student blogs and social networks can be the binding force of participatory learning. rodaniel 1/4/11 7:45 PM @MariadeBruijn Working with that in Louisville, with mixed results, generally more going on that sex #edchat mtechman 1/4/11 7:45 PM @tomwhitby excellent point! #edchat

devenkblack 1/4/11 7:45 PM Student feedback at the end of a PL unit is essential for mutual learning & improvement for next round of it. #edchat stepanvdovine 1/4/11 7:45 PM New blog post: Guest op-ed from VSB's @LombardiMike - Look to Finland not USA for future of K-12 http://bit.ly/gBToBk #bced #edchat

stumpteacher 1/4/11 7:46 PM Agreed! RT @DahlD: Some students are okay with free choice, others need a limited number of choices. Depends on personality. #edchat rodaniel 1/4/11 7:46 PM @mbteach over years, rather than 180 days. If students are truly exposed year in and year out they'll get it.. my opinion #edchat DahlD 1/4/11 7:46 PM Some students are okay with free choice, others need a limited number of choices. Depends on personality. #edchat pschoolsystems 1/4/11 7:46 PM RT @doctorjeff: If we give them freedom to ask, probe, fail, succeed, try something out of *our* left field - they will learn. #edchat jgmac1106 1/4/11 7:46 PM @nykat4 @tomwhitby @orchfan I agree. Simply using technology to showcase what is learned doesnt equate a culture of participation. #edchat raysadad 1/4/11 7:46 PM @doctorjeff Gr8 teacher for you to know up here. Deep into Space. Chosen for trip to Huntsville. 2 bad she's not on Twitter. #edchat cfanch 1/4/11 7:46 PM @ksivick For the last 10 years I've noticed more and more students willing to fail (9th/10th grd) - would love to see a C from them #edchat mbteach 1/4/11 7:46 PM @ksivick @DoremiGirl it also helps to let them revise over and over until they 'get it right.' #edchat enrichingkids 1/4/11 7:46 PM @eliza_peterson So u use the ideas n make them come true in a real physical format ie Video of best play time experience. Right? #edchat porchdragon 1/4/11 7:46 PM @cpaterso curr design is important but teachers grasp of pedagogy is the dealbreaker. Seen many knowledgable teachers fail at that #edchat chadsansing 1/4/11 7:46 PM @ToughLoveforX yes; that's part of how we design, how we assessed formally last yr; this year is less formal, but formative/constant #edchat padgets 1/4/11 7:46 PM @DoremiGirl #edchat absolutely!!

lookforsun 1/4/11 7:46 PM @sguditus #edchat students asked me what their grade was and I responded I didn't accept any project until it was a perfect score.

mgraffin 1/4/11 7:46 PM @carolgau Reply - Just did this last year. Students chose to create PPTs, amazing comic strip & quiz show role play to present info. #edchat aleaness 1/4/11 7:46 PM uninterrupted time #edchat Real learning, deep learning requires

mbteach 1/4/11 7:46 PM @marynabadenhors @carolgau PL requires activities, explorations, more than worksheets, so more materials IMHO #edchat andreamiller20 1/4/11 7:46 PM @tomwhitby Your choice of choices may be limiting... How about leave a free choice open for those students? #edchat WackJacq 1/4/11 7:47 PM RT @sguditus: Let students decide how 2 show mastery.As a master of content, U shld B able 2 judge if the attain masteryf or not #edchat ToughLoveforX 1/4/11 7:47 PM @chadsansing What I found most helpful is clear deadlines, with a PM that helps people get it done. Team feels good. Nice. #edchat stumpteacher 1/4/11 7:47 PM Have to know your student's interest, maturity, comprehension, prior knowledge to adequately provide choices and PL. #edchat web20classroom 1/4/11 7:47 PM RT @TeachPaperless: 'Participatory' means 'using tech', or does it mean 'participating' in one's learning; funding isn't issue; learning structure is. #edchat mbteach 1/4/11 7:47 PM @lookforsun that's kind of my route. "No one will get less than an 85" Even if it means 'fixing' it until it 'gets there.' #edchat DoremiGirl 1/4/11 7:47 PM @nykat4 re: scaffolding: true, except my toughest kid was the oldest in my schl. He needed to be challenged/encouraged 100 diff ways #edchat hoprea 1/4/11 7:47 PM @DahlD Or perhaps it depends on some getting used to having free choice... :) #edchat stangea 1/4/11 7:47 PM @rodaniel @mbteach I agree, we need to be reminded our discourse is about formal education, not learning #edchat doctorjeff 1/4/11 7:47 PM @raysadad we are born to explore. Every parent knows that magical moment wjhen our children begin to ask questions. #edchat

TeachPaperless 1/4/11 7:47 PM 'Participatory' means 'using tech', or does it mean 'participating' in one's learning; funding isn't issue; learning structure is. #edchat sguditus 1/4/11 7:47 PM @stumpteacher @lookforsun What a paradigm shift of mastery as "A+" to "conceptual mastery" #edchat web20classroom 1/4/11 7:47 PM @DahlD Yep you are right. Making connections with kids is so important. #edchat devenkblack 1/4/11 7:47 PM @carolgau @mbteach How you use the tech is important, but having access is essential. Poor urban kids need time to play w/ tech. #edchat cybraryman1 1/4/11 7:47 PM RT @doctorjeff: If we give them freedom to ask, probe, fail, succeed, try something out of *our* left field - they will learn. #edchat wagga 1/4/11 7:47 PM @DahlD Agreed. Some need more guidance than others and work better with partners. #edchat InvasiveNotes light #edchat 1/4/11 7:47 PM RT @doctorjeff: We provide the

jenniferbarnett 1/4/11 7:47 PM I'm inspired by teachers that REQUIRE students to reach, no matter where they are. Not always neat and orderly, but kids learn. #edchat enrichingkids 1/4/11 sense. #edchat 7:47 PM @chrisvacek Ah that makes more

TheDSCWay 1/4/11 7:47 PM How about asking the students how they would like to learn and modifying lessons according to their responses? #edchat chadsansing 1/4/11 7:47 PM @ToughLoveforX i think part of participatory learning clssrm is letting kids hit, miss, compare what happened, how they saw ea prjct #edchat Edu_Traveler 1/4/11 7:47 PM Agree! RT @doctorjeff If we give them the freedom to ask/probe/fail/succeed/try something out of *our* left field they will learn. #edchat cfanch 1/4/11 7:47 PM @DahlD Agreed #edchat

MsBuell 1/4/11 7:47 PM I will say that PL is easier in my civics class vs my world history class because students already have some background knowledge #edchat

teachbeyond 1/4/11 7:47 PM @web20classroom Adjusting to make PL work - SO TRUE. Kids distrust because marks penalize creativity too much #edchat reasoningmind 1/4/11 7:47 PM Then you're just giving suggestions. @andreamiller20: @tomwhitby How about leave a free choice open for those students? #edchat web20classroom 1/4/11 7:47 PM RT @DahlD: Some students are okay with free choice, others need a limited number of choices. Depends on personality. #edchat rodaniel 1/4/11 7:47 PM RT @DahlD: Some students are okay with free choice, others need a limited number of choices. Depends on personality. #edchat doctorjeff 1/4/11 7:47 PM @raysadad I would argue that point. I would say that we as a society GIVE the classroom as a gift to our children. #edchat DahlD 1/4/11 7:48 PM True! RT @daveandcori: @DahlD PL can be individualized to address that. That's what's so cool about it :) #edchat raysadad 1/4/11 7:48 PM @doctorjeff I love that concept, too. But every Society has a hotly contested agenda for its children. #edchat hshawjr 1/4/11 7:48 PM RT @stumpteacher: Have to know your student's interest, maturity, comp, prior knowledge 2 adequately provide choices & PL. #edchat mgraffin 1/4/11 7:48 PM @tomwhitby @orchfan Yes - but it depends on what tech you can acess. Comics, role plays, are other excellent alternatives. #edchat stumpteacher 1/4/11 7:48 PM @sguditus @lookforsun http://bit.ly/hk2lAU my thoughts exactly... watch when you have a moment. #edchat WackJacq 1/4/11 7:48 PM Teachers must have a good relationship with their students if empowering them is goingg to work. #edchat tomwhitby 1/4/11 7:48 PM In participatory learning the roles of teacher and student are constantly changing. #Edchat MsBuell 1/4/11 7:48 PM My classes are more and more PL each year--and each year I cover less and less of the "curriculum" #edchat Depth vs breadth?

stangea 1/4/11 7:48 PM ,RT @cpaterso: @stangea Adults are the experts. We know something that the students don't. <-- agreed #edchat web20classroom 1/4/11 7:48 PM @teachbeyond There is definitely a learning curve to it. Each have to understand each other for it to really work. #edchat DoremiGirl 1/4/11 7:48 PM @mbteach @ksivick For this reason my deadlines for projs are loose. Revising/making changes are good! #edchat rodaniel 1/4/11 7:48 PM @devenkblack not sure this is a PL issue, but I agree that kids having access is critical, but don't think poor urban the only ones #edchat enrichingkids 1/4/11 7:48 PM @blairteach So the less direction sometime the more chaos takes place. Bt isn't there as a thing as accepted chaos in the classroom? #edchat daveandcori 1/4/11 7:48 PM @DahlD PL can be individualized to address that. That's what's so cool about it :) #edchat nykat4 1/4/11 7:48 PM @DahlD agree -i give suggestions with a 'open to negotiate' box for those who have other ideas #edchat DahlD 1/4/11 7:48 PM @hoprea Yes, but even as adults, too many choices can be overwhelming. #edchat doctorjeff 1/4/11 7:48 PM @raysadad we as a society recognize our need to explore to learn, so we create schools and school systems as a gift to our children. #edchat chadsansing 1/4/11 7:48 PM #edchat all ppl deserve choice; takes time to develop healthy habits in learning, like eating; give kids 3 years of patience, support for PL sammorra 1/4/11 7:48 PM Participatory does not always mean choice. It can also mean that students monitor and adjust their own learning. #edchat jgmac1106 1/4/11 7:48 PM @jennamcjenna Talked about the awesome work your team is doing alot in tonights #edchat on participatory learning SARAallen91 1/4/11 7:48 PM RT @web20classroom: RT @hshawjr: Student need to learn what they don't know and learn what they do know and get to know what they want to learn #edchat

ksivick1/4/11 7:48 PM @cfanch bummer about more stdnts willing to fail in the past 10 years...where has all the passion gone? from teachers too! #edchat stleoscience 1/4/11 7:49 PM RT @TeachPaperless: For 'participatory learning' to be effective, the 'participation' has to be relevant. #edchat hoprea 1/4/11 7:49 PM @DahlD Oh, I agree. It's painful enough to have to choose what to eat in a new restaurant. Imagine when it comes to learning. :) #edchat daveandcori 1/4/11 7:49 PM @rodaniel @devenkblack These days there are lots of areas with resource problems due to economy. It's sad. #edchat jenniferbarnett 1/4/11 7:49 PM include an opt out clause. #edchat True participation doesn't

sguditus 1/4/11 7:49 PM @WackJacq Yes - teacher should determine IF mastery is achieved; students should determine HOW. #edchat ksivick1/4/11 7:49 PM @mbteach revising over and over is ok but when do we stop and ask for the product? is it all about the process, not product? #edchat espanateacher 1/4/11 7:49 PM @lisamonthie College is the place for PL, if no where else. Many students don't see PL benefits b/c it can be a risk. #edchat mtechman 1/4/11 7:49 PM @ToughLoveforX am going to contact you for more details - appreciate your offer of help/info very much! #edchat teachbeyond 1/4/11 7:49 PM @web20classroom - I completely agree. TRUST, work and effort are needed. .. but what value when you do!!! #edchat devenkblack 1/4/11 7:49 PM @rodaniel No, of course not. I see more & more similarities between situations of poor urban & rural kids. #edchat reasoningmind 1/4/11 7:49 PM @sguditus exactly. student models often provide the best examples for class discussion. Use it to spur PL. Create culture of collab. #edchat doctorjeff 1/4/11 7:49 PM RT @daveandcori: @jgmac1106 @doctorjeff Students want to explore and learn what interests them. Most school settings constrain this. #edchat

andreamiller20 1/4/11 7:49 PM @reasoningmind "Then you're just giving suggestions. " I'm not sure what you mean. #edchat TeachPaperless 1/4/11 7:49 PM The teacher creates the context; the teacher is the maitre-de of the learning. @edu_traveler @jgmac1106 #edchat chadsansing 1/4/11 7:49 PM @stangea kids are experts in things we don't know, too; breaks trust to always push our agenda, expertise over theirs #edchat cfanch 1/4/11 7:49 PM @sguditus @stumpteacher @lookforsun the problem here is parents expect a letter grade to "know" how their child is doing #edchat enrichingkids 1/4/11 7:49 PM Much appreciated. #edchat @jgmac1106 Great, thanks so much!

doctorjeff 1/4/11 7:49 PM @raysadad then we burden our classrooms w testing, lectures, rigid environments, and our classrooms become the enemies of learning. #edchat sguditus 1/4/11 7:49 PM The concept of failing needs to be redefined and be made safe to occur in our schools #edchat stumpteacher 1/4/11 7:49 PM Yes, constant evolution RT @tomwhitby: In participatory learning the roles of teacher and student are constantly changing. #Edchat mplyler 1/4/11 7:50 PM RT @TeachPaperless: 'Participatory' means 'using tech', or does it mean 'participating' in one's learning; funding isn't issue; learning structure is. #edchat mbteach 1/4/11 7:50 PM @ksivick when everyone has achieved at least an 85 is my cut-off. Some students go from 55-85 w/one revision! #edchat DahlD 1/4/11 7:50 PM Isn't that the truth! @hoprea #edchat

rodaniel 1/4/11 7:50 PM RT @Edu_Traveler: @WackJacq Teachers need to have expectations+ have positive relationships. Students need to know they are in a safe, learning env. #edchat hshawjr 1/4/11 7:50 PM It's all about Learning vs acquiring grades/testing and which we consider more important to our students futures #edchat

doctorjeff 1/4/11 7:50 PM @raysadad Gee, get her on Twitter! Here! I wrote this for Twitter Newbies at HuffPost, and showcased #edchat http://huff.to/dgPwa2 chadsansing 1/4/11 7:50 PM #edchat for participatory learning 2 be participatory learning, adult coercion needs to be minimized & adults minds open 2 max 4 kids' ideas reasoningmind 1/4/11 7:50 PM @andreamiller20 Students often need examples to spur their creativity. Suggestions are helpful. Just don't limit them to "choices." #edchat rodaniel 1/4/11 7:50 PM economy, not proud of it, but.... #edchat @daveandcori it's part of our

teacherthink 1/4/11 7:50 PM @TeachPaperless Teacher lest forget that sometimes innovation requires us to foster more learning with less. #edchat mgraffin 1/4/11 7:50 PM Talk to them - It works! RT @web20classroom: @DahlD Yep you are right. Making connections with kids is so important. #edchat stangea 1/4/11 7:50 PM @TeachPaperless we are used to creating the context, students need room to create context too, that is empowerment #edchat Edu_Traveler 1/4/11 7:50 PM @WackJacq Teachers need to have expectations+ have positive relationships. Students need to know they are in a safe, learning env. #edchat web20classroom 1/4/11 7:50 PM @JenniferBarnett But can it? Are there not situations where a kid can opt out? Just curious. #edchat monk51295 1/4/11 7:50 PM @WackJacq yes. easier for them to authentically self assess - when we let them do what matters - to them. #edchat nykat4 1/4/11 7:50 PM agreed!! RT @WackJacq: Teachers must have a good relationship with their students if empowering them is goingg to work. #edchat stumpteacher 1/4/11 7:50 PM @cfanch @sguditus @lookforsun It is all about a cultural shift...http://bit.ly/hfmsHW #edchat rodaniel 1/4/11 7:51 PM RT @doctorjeff: @raysadad I know. I only wish we could get our ed system back to what education is about. #edchat

andreamiller20 1/4/11 7:51 PM @reasoningmind The choice board has 9 activities based on mult intelligences and anchored by a state standard. 1 box is free choice. #edchat doctorjeff 1/4/11 7:51 PM @raysadad I know. I only wish we could get our ed system back to what education is about. #edchat jenniferbarnett 1/4/11 7:51 PM @web20classroom Then what is the purpose of learning if we allow them to choose to not? Must reframe it, not allow them to bail. #edchat reasoningmind 1/4/11 7:51 PM @andreamiller20 hard choices limit their possibilities for creativity and mistakes. I personally think mistakes are great tools. #edchat jgmac1106 1/4/11 7:51 PM Great ideas on participatory culture and digital media from the Cooney center. #edchat http://bit.ly/c8Jjya wagga 1/4/11 7:51 PM Worked a drop out prevention program and PL helped students attend classes on a more regular basis #edchat nykat4 1/4/11 7:51 PM @espanateacher except if they don't see it before college, they are all about 'what's my grade' #edchat espanateacher 1/4/11 7:51 PM @EngTeachChick I agree. What skills should we teach them? And how? #edchat ksivick1/4/11 7:51 PM #edchat at the elementary level I think it is all about the process... but those pesky parents want something for the fridge ;) web20classroom 1/4/11 7:51 PM RT @hshawjr: It's all about Learning vs acquiring grades/testing and which we consider more important to our students futures #edchat sguditus 1/4/11 7:51 PM parents or students? #edchat @cfanch For whom are grades then -

cpaterso 1/4/11 7:51 PM @MsBuell We need to enable them to not need us. That is where we are important! #edchat TeachPaperless 1/4/11 7:51 PM @cfanch So educate and engage the parents so the 'letter grade' is seen for what it is. #edchat monk51295 1/4/11 7:52 PM a look at detox: http://tinyurl.com/37motuc - getting back to self-directed learning #edchat sammorra 1/4/11 7:52 PM The role of the teacher is to help students understand the purpose of what they are learning and why mastery is valuable. #edchat

shelleypa 1/4/11 7:52 PM RT @doctorjeff: @raysadad we are born to explore. Every parent knows that magical moment wjhen our children begin to ask questions. #edchat beachcat11 1/4/11 7:52 PM RT @sguditus: @stumpteacher @lookforsun What a paradigm shift of mastery as "A+" to "conceptual mastery" #edchat teachbeyond 1/4/11 7:52 PM really going to matter in the long run? @hshawjr well said! #edchat - What's

mgraffin 1/4/11 7:52 PM @chadsansing @stangea Teaching Under the Sea, the toughest kid loved crabbing & eating mussels. Amazing change resulted. #edchat carolgau 1/4/11 7:52 PM @devenkblack #edchat Yes, all st need time to experiment with tech. I pulled old comp out of the garbage last year to use in my class! rodaniel 1/4/11 7:52 PM Great conversation, thanks all #edchat

stangea 1/4/11 7:52 PM @MsBuell @cpaterso I agree formal learning needs to make room for student's taking their own path. Our curriculum needs to give way #edchat eLearning_softw 1/4/11 7:52 PM Back to School with Web 2.0 List of Resources - Part 1 : http://goo.gl/lvuv #web20 #edchat brittgow 1/4/11 7:52 PM Examples of other student's wk & asking for tips 2 improve can B motivating for some stds. What makes this video/e-poster/website g8?#edchat stumpteacher 1/4/11 7:52 PM Great line! RT @cybraryman1: RT @cpaterso: The best teaching is when learners do the explaining and teachers do the listening. #edchat reasoningmind 1/4/11 7:52 PM @wagga makes sense. interactive communities foster accountability. #edchat lookforsun 1/4/11 7:52 PM @mgraffin #edchat Yes, the structure is important and needs to be practiced and refined as PL grows. MsBuell 1/4/11 7:52 PM @stangea @cpaterso yes, I'm the expert, but isn't it the whole "give a man a fish" concept--kids need to rely on selves not me #edchat

shelleypa 1/4/11 7:52 PM #edchat another bene of PL is an increase of both collaboration and differentiation - benefits kids with different skill and interest sets tshreve 1/4/11 7:52 PM @ksivick That's the feedback part we educators need to work on. How else can we do it? #edchat zecool 1/4/11 7:52 PM Great line! RT @cybraryman1: RT @cpaterso: The best teaching is when learners do the explaining and teachers do the listening. #edchat TeachPaperless 1/4/11 7:52 PM @stangea We often forget that we teachers are part of the students' context. #edchat porchdragon 1/4/11 s good teacher? #edchat 7:52 PM @WackJacq isn't that the definition of

sguditus 1/4/11 7:52 PM @ksivick Process is important, but so is the standards - be it school, community, state, nation-based. #edchat baisebeige 1/4/11 7:52 PM RT @PLANETPALS: TY4RT @baisebeige: #Habitats #Biomes #Forests #Ecosystems Simplified! http://plpls.com/eK0bnK #ecomonday #ece #edchat #homeschool jgmac1106 1/4/11 7:52 PM For me hardest part about encouraging Participatory learning is getting teachers to recognize the new models of assessment needed #edchat chadsansing 1/4/11 7:52 PM #edchat what do i mean by "adult coercion?" making unilateral decision & delivering it directly or not; involve kids; help'em; trust process hshawjr 1/4/11 7:52 PM RT @doctorjeff: @raysadad I know. I only wish we could get our ed system back to what education is about. #edchat Bio_prof 1/4/11 7:53 PM RT @tomwhitby: In participatory learning the roles of teacher and student are constantly changing. #Edchat jenniferbarnett 1/4/11 7:53 PM accomplished, the sky is the limit! #edchat @sammorra If that is

elephantsgerald 1/4/11 7:53 PM Truest RT @web20classroom: It is easy to say "why would they not want to." My question is what to do when they really don't want to. #edchat Edu_Traveler 1/4/11 7:53 PM @wagga I support teachers working w/ the most disconnected youth to use PL..if it's not relevant to their lives they don't care. #edchat

DahlD 1/4/11 7:53 PM Students learn and remember better when actively involved, so PL just makes sense. #edchat mgraffin 1/4/11 7:53 PM @lookforsun I'd love some real-world examples of PL structures - elementary classes. Any pointers? Thanks. #edchat WilKap 1/4/11 7:53 PM RT @jgmac1106: gr8 ideas on participatory culture & digital media from the Cooney center. #edchat http://bit.ly/c8Jjya reasoningmind 1/4/11 7:53 PM @andreamiller20 Interesting. I'm curious about context but it sounds cool. #edchat sguditus 1/4/11 7:53 PM We shouldn't let the way things were always done dictate how and what students' curriculum looks like today. #edchat TheDSCWay 1/4/11 7:53 PM Here is a great article from Edutopia about having a conversation with the 21st-Century Digital Learner http://t.co/P951tTh #edchat ToughLoveforX 1/4/11 7:53 PM @chadsansing The trick I found is herding cats. Needs lots of practice, focus and quick responses. #edchat jpalladino 1/4/11 7:53 PM RT @devenkblack: Education should not be about teaching as much as it is. Should be about setting up situations for guided learning #edchat #spedchat #tlchat wagga 1/4/11 7:53 PM @reasoningmind So does a feeling of personal loyalty to the teacher who trusted you. #edchat brittgow 1/4/11 7:53 PM follow after #edchat - Thanks! Wow! So many great new educators to

doctorjeff 1/4/11 7:53 PM @reasoningmind @andreamiller20 I think mistakes r absolutely essential 2 learning. In fact failure often more important than success #edchat padgets 1/4/11 7:53 PM #edchat PL does naturally differentiate, my ELL, gifted and sped kids have all greatly benefited, elephantsgerald 1/4/11 7:53 PM Some stuff just looks 'participatory'. Listening to a good story or reading there's a lot of internal action. @web20classroom #edchat carolgau 1/4/11 do this in my class! 7:53 PM @mgraffin #edchat I am just about to

web20classroom 1/4/11 7:53 PM Again, just curious for your thoughts. #edchat

@JenniferBarnett I agree.

WackJacq 1/4/11 7:53 PM @chadsansing: #edchat "Get it rt" is determi by state standards. But student choice in the products & presentation mitigates learning styles chadsansing 1/4/11 7:53 PM RT @devenkblack: Education should not be about teaching as much as it is. Should be about setting up situations for guided learning #edchat #spedchat #tlchat cfanch 1/4/11 7:53 PM @sguditus exactly! We do PBL and student grades are effected by partners. Parents get angry that there is a B for their A student. #edchat devenkblack 1/4/11 7:53 PM Education should not be about teaching as much as it is. Should be about setting up situations for guided learning #edchat #spedchat #tlchat brittgow 1/4/11 7:54 PM http://youtu.be/Pk7yqlTMvp8 #edchat Herding cats

MrFoteah 1/4/11 7:54 PM RT @devenkblack: Tonight's #spedchat topic: How can we make special education part of ed reform discussions? Join us at 8:30 EST #edchat carolgau 1/4/11 7:54 PM @mbteach #edchat Yes - hands on, I hate worksheets and I hate photocopying! wagga 1/4/11 7:54 PM @Edu_Traveler that's why I think PL is not necessarily the tool for all children #edchat reasoningmind 1/4/11 7:54 PM @wagga very true, but students can hold each other accountable in some instances where adults can't. #edchat raysadad 1/4/11 7:54 PM @doctorjeff Right, politicos looking 2 demo accountability 2 larger society, not realizing parents are already sold on our schools. #edchat mgraffin 1/4/11 7:54 PM @carolgau I'll be happy to send you a copy of my assessment sheet & worksamples if you like #edchat DahlD 1/4/11 7:54 PM RT @sguditus: Really, education shouldn't be about teaching - it should be about learning. #edchat brianbaron13 1/4/11 7:54 PM We miss something if we think it's just studs who need to participate -- teachers need to part w/each other #edchat

aleaness 1/4/11 7:54 PM So do we need to set up individual contracts for PL to work proper;y? #edchat ksivick1/4/11 7:54 PM @sguditus...can't we have some fluidity with standards, development does not occur on a chronological level #edchat sguditus 1/4/11 7:54 PM Really, education shouldn't be about teaching - it should be about learning. #edchat chadsansing 1/4/11 7:54 PM @WackJacq #edchat if the state standards are the bottom line, why ask kids to rediscover them, if they don't own them? #nonrhetorical mbteach 1/4/11 7:54 PM @brianbaron13 yes, true. Which is why it is important to have a learning goal defined and mapped out #edchat raysadad 1/4/11 7:55 PM @doctorjeff Thanks so much, she is awesome. Absolutely passionate abt everything space. Will email her your HuffPo link. #edchat wagga 1/4/11 7:55 PM @reasoningmind Some kids--even the smartest want to be directed the most. Remember--"Is this going to be on a test"?? #edchat mgraffin 1/4/11 7:55 PM @Edu_Traveler @wagga Maybe we should try to find something that is directly relevant to the lives #edchat sammorra 1/4/11 7:55 PM RT @tomwhitby: Thanks goes out to our #Edchat moderators for tonight @kylepace , @mbteach , @web20classroom , @ShellTerrell . Archive will be up soon. DahlD 1/4/11 7:55 PM RT @tomwhitby: Thanks goes out to our #Edchat moderators for tonight @kylepace , @mbteach , @web20classroom , @ShellTerrell . Archive will be up soon. beachcat11 1/4/11 7:55 PM RT @Edu_Traveler: @WackJacq Teachers need to have expectations+ have positive relationships. Students need to know they are in a safe, learning env. #edchat espanateacher 1/4/11 7:55 PM @chadsansing Is there a cost in PL? Many students never choose math. I help them excel at it. They are confident to choose it now. #edchat tomwhitby 1/4/11 7:55 PM Thanks goes out to our #Edchat moderators for tonight @kylepace , @mbteach , @web20classroom , @ShellTerrell . Archive will be up soon.

MaztaTeacher 1/4/11 7:55 PM RT @stumpteacher: Great line! RT @cybraryman1: RT @cpaterso: The best teaching is when learners do the explaining and teachers do the listening. #edchat mtechman 1/4/11 7:55 PM @elephantsgerald good point re how we shouldn't expect all learning to be visible at all times #edchat stangea 1/4/11 sounds great #edchat 7:55 PM @mgraffin Teaching Under the Sea

BABBIS22 1/4/11 7:55 PM So True! RT @doctorjeff I love that concept, too.But every Society has a hotly contested agenda for its children. #edchat DoremiGirl 1/4/11 7:55 PM @aleaness I have my Ss write their action plans; each class I check... it works for me #edchat MsBuell 1/4/11 7:55 PM @sguditus about standards-sometimes "they" can't agree on what's important so they put EVERYTHING in the curriculum #edchat carolgau 1/4/11 7:55 PM great! carol.gaudet@hwdsb.on.ca @mgraffin #edchat That would be

mgraffin 1/4/11 7:55 PM Couldn't agree more. My first #edchat RT @brittgow: Wow! So many great new educators to follow after #edchat Thanks! chadsansing 1/4/11 7:55 PM @aleaness #edchat rather than set up contracts, i've asked 4 design docs that go through the writing process & serve as plans, benchmarks Edu_Traveler 1/4/11 7:55 PM RT@TeachPaperless: The teacher creates the context; the teacher is the maitre-de of the learning. @edu_traveler @jgmac1106 #edchat" hshawjr 1/4/11 7:55 PM RT @DahlD: RT @sguditus: Really, education shouldn't be about teaching - it should be about learning. #edchat andreamiller20 1/4/11 7:55 PM @reasoningmind just google choice boards - tons of info out there #edchat @espanateacher cpaterso 1/4/11 7:55 PM http://youtu.be/Pk7yqlTMvp8 #edchat RT @brittgow: Herding cats

reasoningmind 1/4/11 7:55 PM RT @sguditus: Really, education shouldn't be about teaching - it should be about learning. #edchat All interaction.

nykat4 1/4/11 7:55 PM looking for new ideas #edchat

@mgraffin I'd like to see those -always

TeachingTrisha 1/4/11 7:55 PM RT @jgmac1106: @nykat4 @tomwhitby @orchfan Simply using tech to showcase what is learned doesnt equate a culture of participation. #edchat jgmac1106 1/4/11 7:55 PM @ksivick @mbteach If you are interested in measuring participatory learning. Then yes it is always about the process. #edchat EngTeachChick 1/4/11 7:55 PM #edchat modeling is fantastic. opens discussion on what's acceptable vs what isn't. from the student perspective padgets 1/4/11 7:56 PM chat take care and tweet you all later ;) #edchat thanks everybody for a great

Edu_Traveler 1/4/11 7:56 PM @wagga But aren't all students curious? Isn't PL just tapping into one's curiousity? #edchat wagga 1/4/11 7:56 PM @mgraffin @Edu_Traveler I know what you mean, but sometimes it takes you down roads you don't want to travel on #edchat stumpteacher 1/4/11 7:56 PM @tomwhitby @kylepace @mbteach @web20classroom @ShellTerrell Thanks for the great conversation tonight! #edchat butwait 1/4/11 7:56 PM Sorry I missed the #edchat fun tonight... we were being interviewed by a grad student doing research on #LGBTheaded families. #edchat doctorjeff 1/4/11 7:56 PM Isn't #edchat a fantastic example of participatory learning? (I feel another HuffPost blog post coming on) nykat4 1/4/11 7:56 PM @wagga sometimes the smartest ones are the ones most reluctant- they've been successful in trad ed, & like being successful! #edchat waltguitar 1/4/11 7:56 PM here. http://bit.ly/bTOLiV #edchat TeachPaperless 1/4/11 imaginations. #edchat The crisis in creativity - great article Our words hinder our

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reasoningmind 1/4/11 7:56 PM @andreamiller20 will do, thanks. not in the classroom anymore so I've missed some things. #edchat

DoremiGirl 1/4/11 7:56 PM @aleaness Ss write in GDoc so that they have it in their files. I remind them if they forget! :-) #edchat mbteach 1/4/11 7:56 PM @jgmac1106 @ksivick sadly, we are limited to the rules, guidelines and tools provided and required for measuring learning. #edchat shelleypa 1/4/11 7:56 PM RT @padgets: #edchat PL does naturally differentiate, my ELL, gifted and sped kids have all greatly benefited, TeachPaperless 1/4/11 7:56 PM The whole conversation wd be more effective if we got rid of words like teacher, student, learner, education altogether. #edchat doctorjeff 1/4/11 7:56 PM Maybe we should look at ourselves, in this moment on #edchat. Are we learning? Are we exploring? Are we free to take this where we want? BABBIS22 1/4/11 7:56 PM RT @stangea I agree formal learning needs to make room for student's taking their own path. Our curriculum needs to give way #edchat royanlee 1/4/11 7:56 PM Learners with low self-efficacy struggle with choice. We need to increase these levels. #edchat wagga 1/4/11 7:57 PM @Edu_Traveler All students ARE curious and we need to tap into that, but there is a lot of baggage in the lives of some. #edchat mtechman 1/4/11 7:57 PM RT @DoremiGirl: @aleaness I have my Ss write their action plans; each class I check... it works for me #edchat EngTeachChick 1/4/11 7:57 PM words hinder our imaginations. #edchat RT @TeachPaperless: Our

jgmac1106 1/4/11 7:57 PM @mbteach @ksivick I agree. We are limited, but there r ways 2 look 4 content knowledge in the feedback students leae and reflections #edchat espanateacher 1/4/11 7:57 PM @oline73 @andreamiller20 PL is beneficial when kids understand learning better than teachers. The age of understanding varies. #edchat TeachingTrisha 1/4/11 7:57 PM RT @DahlD: Some students are okay with free choice, others need a limited number of choices. Depends on personality. #edchat sguditus 1/4/11 7:57 PM Thanks all for a GREAT #edchat!

doctorjeff 1/4/11 7:57 PM So if #edchat is a participatory learning test particle, why does this work so well? It's not even hands-on! It is minds-on. raysadad 1/4/11 bit? #edchat 7:57 PM @royanlee Can you expand on this a

reasoningmind 1/4/11 7:57 PM @wagga Right, but other students are often more effective in making the student care about the test in the first place. #edchat DahlD 1/4/11 informative! 7:57 PM Thanks for a great #edchat all. Very

shelleypa 1/4/11 7:57 PM RT @MrFoteah: RT @devenkblack: Tonight's #spedchat topic: How can we make special education part of ed reform discussions? Join us at 8:30 EST #edchat carolgau 1/4/11 7:57 PM self esteem is one key to this. @royanlee #edchat I think building

Bobweb2 1/4/11 7:57 PM @svenhall Misleading autosyndication of my tweet at http://t.co/p38qmbw - I am not the author of timelessmyths #ukedchat #edchat #edtech cpaterso 1/4/11 7:57 PM RT @TeachPaperless: The whole conversation wd B more effective if we got rid of words like teacher, student, learner, education. #edchat mgraffin 1/4/11 7:57 PM @stangea It was the major highlight of my last teaching prac - I taught me so much about the power of student prior knowledge & exp #edchat hshawjr 1/4/11 7:57 PM RT @mbteach: @jgmac1106 @ksivick sadly, we are limited to the rules, guidelines & tools provided & required for measuring learning. #edchat chadsansing 1/4/11 7:57 PM @espanateacher #edchat part of how we help PL can be showing branching paths into relevant studies; math is beautiful tomwhitby 1/4/11 7:58 PM Don't forget to join us & almost 7'000 collaborative educators on The Educator's PLN www.edupln.com #Edchat blairteach 1/4/11 7:58 PM ...the teacher should move toward seeing themselves as organizers of learning opportunities. (Tomlinson) #edchat

cpaterso 1/4/11 7:58 PM RT @doctorjeff: You want a good model for participatory learning? HERE: #edchat mbteach 1/4/11 7:58 PM @TeachPaperless not sure if that was a question, but participatory learning has been happening way before tech as we know it! #edchat DahlD 1/4/11 7:58 PM RT @doctorjeff: You want a good model for participatory learning? HERE: #edchat web20classroom 1/4/11 7:58 PM @JenniferBarnett And I think that is the hard part of teaching. The individuality of it. Reach each student. Hard but necessary. #edchat aleaness 1/4/11 7:58 PM RT @TeachPaperless: The whole conversation wd be more effective if we got rid of words like teacher, student, learner, education altogether. #edchat nykat4 1/4/11 7:58 PM Out sick yesterday-had sub give kids free writing for 30 minutes- got invites to 5 gdocs w beg of shared writing from pairs of kids #edchat doctorjeff 1/4/11 7:58 PM participatory learning? HERE: #edchat You want a good model for

mtechman 1/4/11 7:58 PM RT @chadsansing: @espanateacher #edchat part of how we help PL can be showing branching paths into relevant studies; math is beautiful cfanch 1/4/11 7:58 PM @lookforsun we grade by rubrics which are somewhat fluid in that they choose how much mastery they want to complete. #edchat jgmac1106 1/4/11 7:58 PM RT @DoremiGirl: @aleaness Ss write in GDoc so that they have it in their files. I remind them if they forget! :-) #edchat fhuCIT 1/4/11 7:58 PM imaginations. #edchat RT @TeachPaperless: Our words hinder our RT @TeachPaperless: Our words

mplyler 1/4/11 7:58 PM hinder our imaginations. #edchat

chadsansing 1/4/11 7:58 PM @espanateacher #edchat but everything has opportunity cost; PL takes time from DI, looks dffrnt, uses time dffrntly in relation 2 stndrds

jgmac1106 1/4/11 7:58 PM Proof to the power of participatory learning: According to Writing Next Collaborative writing has one of the strongest effect sizes #edchat cpaterso 1/4/11 learning. #edchat 7:58 PM @carolgau Self-esteem is a result of

BABBIS22 1/4/11 7:58 PM RT @sguditus: We shouldn't let the way things were always done dictate how and what students' curriculum looks like today. #edchat cybraryman1 1/4/11 7:58 PM I enjoyed "participating" in this stimulating chat. PL can be very beneficial for our students. Thanks everyone. #edchat aleaness 1/4/11 7:58 PM @DoremiGirl thanks #edchat

mgraffin 1/4/11 7:58 PM @wagga @Edu_Traveler Aaah, yes .. perhaps in your case, this would be true. #edchat ktenkely 1/4/11 7:58 PM Tag Galaxy is a super cool way to explore word relationships http://bit.ly/dQvced think spelling, vocabulary, story prompt. #edchat espanateacher 1/4/11 7:58 PM RT@mbteach What does participatory learning look in the K-2 classroom? #edchat reasoningmind 1/4/11 7:58 PM RT @doctorjeff: Maybe we should look at ourselves on #edchat. Are we learning? Are we exploring? Are we free to take this where we want? jenniferbarnett 1/4/11 7:58 PM @web20classroom I hate to be forced fed anything, but if it's needed, I need it presented in an enticing way. A teacher's job? #edchat doctorjeff 1/4/11 7:59 PM @espanateacher @mbteach In K-2? Like everywhere else, it starts with the magic of a child's question. #edchat mbteach 1/4/11 7:59 PM @royanlee hah! A charter school. It's an onilne gradebook. Definitely have gotten emails that I need to update my gradebook #edchat cfanch 1/4/11 7:59 PM @web20classroom and I'd add that you can't always quantify how you reached that student. #edchat ktenkely 1/4/11 7:59 PM Bummed, didn't realize that I was working through #edchat. Will have to check out the archives!

butwait 1/4/11 7:59 PM RT @doctorjeff: You want a good model for participatory learning? HERE: #edchat (LOVE that!) #edchat BABBIS22 1/4/11 7:59 PM RT @jgmac1106 @ksivick sadly, we are limited to the rules, guidelines and tools provided and required for measuring learning. #edchat jgmac1106 1/4/11 7:59 PM @doctorjeff think this goes 2 point that learning communities are hard if./not impossible to creat. #edchat is selfdirected not madatory EngTeachChick 1/4/11 7:59 PM #edchat fun chat.

Edu_Traveler 1/4/11 7:59 PM Well said! RT @cpaterso The best teaching is when learners do the explaining and teachers do the listening. #edchat mbteach 1/4/11 7:59 PM @jgmac1106 I do assessments 'my way' to ensure that students are learning and then am forced to turn it into a number #edchat beachcat11 1/4/11 7:59 PM RT @doctorjeff: You want a good model for participatory learning? HERE: #edchat nykat4 1/4/11 7:59 PM great chat - wish i didn't miss beginning! def some things learned tonight! #edchat chadsansing 1/4/11 7:59 PM #edchat part of participatory learning is taking the plunge; part is making peace w/ how others see your clss; they need time/education, too DahlD 1/4/11 7:59 PM RT @tomwhitby: Don't forget to join us & almost 7'000 collaborative educators on The Educator's PLN www.edupln.com #Edchat raysadad 1/4/11 7:59 PM RT @web20classroom: @JenniferBarnett And I think that is the hard part of teaching. The individuality of it. Reach each student. Hard but necessary. #edchat reasoningmind 1/4/11 7:59 PM RT @fhucit: RT @TeachPaperless: Our words hinder our imaginations. #edchat mtechman 1/4/11 7:59 PM @chadsansing one of the things I love about the library, ability to follow those branching paths, discover new interests #edchat ktenkely 1/4/11 7:59 PM @stumpteacher Thanks :) Just realized I worked through #edchat, majorly bummed!

devenkblack 1/4/11 7:59 PM Come back in a half-hour for #spedchat. Our topic How can we make special education part of ed reform discussions? Input needed. #edchat web20classroom 1/4/11 7:59 PM Don't forget to check out the EDU PLN http://bit.ly/g4kDBc and the #edchat Facebook Pg http://on.fb.me/cVWhSG for more conversations. ksivick1/4/11 7:59 PM RT @wagga: @Edu_Traveler All students ARE curious and we need to tap into that, but there is a lot of baggage in the lives of some. #edchat web20classroom 1/4/11 agree more! #edchat monk51295 1/4/11 aleaness 1/4/11 8:00 PM @JenniferBarnett Couldn't

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thanks guys #edchat @mbteach I wish, summer :) #edchat

jgmac1106 1/4/11 8:00 PM @mbteach I know. You have awesome ideas 4 assessments! Have 2 come up with creative ways to invent those numbers #shooshdonttell #edchat LivAnon 1/4/11 8:00 PM I think it's choice of words. The right words excite *my* imagination. RT @TeachPaperless Our words hinder our imaginations. #edchat freespeakpoet 1/4/11 8:00 PM @mtechman: lots of studentmade toolkits, jings, signs, videos etc for others to refer to as they research, produce.... #edchat YES! wagga 1/4/11 8:00 PM @mgraffin @Edu_Traveler Or in yours as well. I remember teaching girls who were HIV positive and had to bring the infants to school #edchat CADALeaders 1/4/11 8:00 PM Great blog post from @Josephson0 on suggestions for parents on teens from a parent who knows #edchat #elearning http://ow.ly/3uccS mritzius 1/4/11 8:00 PM Don't miss @mbteach speak about the Internet and distraction, and its effect on learning at TeachMeet NJ tmnj.org #tmnj #edchat shelleypa 1/4/11 8:00 PM RT @doctorjeff: So if #edchat is a participatory learning test particle, why does this work so well? It's not even hands-on! It is minds-on.

aleaness 1/4/11 8:00 PM @pharesr great question. #edchat. My kids really like it and so do I. I started one for staff too. chadsansing 1/4/11 8:00 PM @aleaness #edchat i'm working on project w/ a kid (w/ parent permission) to co-write on the process; will share when ready & look 4 other ex doctorjeff 1/4/11 8:00 PM RT @BABBIS22: RT @jgmac1106 @ksivick sadly, we are limited to the rules, guidelines and tools provided and required for measuring learning. #edchat mbteach 1/4/11 8:00 PM RT @aleaness: Real learning, deep learning requires uninterrupted time #edchat <--can you find me some, please? :) jenniferbarnett 1/4/11 8:00 PM @web20classroom It's what makes this such an art while needing a bit of science to determine if it worked! #edchat daveandcori 1/4/11 forgetting to bookmark it. 8:01 PM Where's the #edchat archive? I keep

Edu_Traveler 1/4/11 8:01 PM @wagga @mgraffin Isn't dealing with students' baggage a part of teaching..we're not social workers but we know where they are #edchat jgmac1106 1/4/11 noodles. #edchat 8:01 PM @doctorjeff You heard cats. I push wet

BABBIS22 1/4/11 8:01 PM Always inspiring! Thank you! @tomwhitby @kylepace @mbteach @web20classroom @ShellTerrell @stumpteacher #edchat doctorjeff 1/4/11 8:01 PM think they are self directed. #edchat raysadad 1/4/11 sure. #edchat 8:01 PM @jgmac1106 a class only needs to @jgmac1106 There's truth in this, for

butwait 1/4/11 8:01 PM @nykat4 Were you so psyched?! Sounds like medicine for a sick teacher... #edchat mbteach 1/4/11 8:01 PM @doctorjeff in younger grades encouraging and building student voice is so important #edchat bonniebird 1/4/11 8:01 PM Participated in #edchat today rather than lurked. Loved the experience, but I can't do it twice in a day. See y'all next Tues. am if not b4.

jgmac1106 1/4/11 8:01 PM RT @doctorjeff: @jgmac1106 you can compromise. It's really about the art of herding cats, I mean teaching. #edchat web20classroom 1/4/11 8:01 PM @cfanch Yep. Sure would make this whole teaching thing easier if we could. #edchat orchfan 1/4/11 8:01 PM tweeters on her for #edchat @b_wagoner we need to get our WSR

TeachingTrisha 1/4/11 8:01 PM RT @cfanch: @sguditus @stumpteacher @lookforsun problem here is parents expect a letter grade to "know" how their child is doing #edchat WackJacq 1/4/11 8:01 PM @porchdragon Yes, but believe it or not, some teachers love content, power, and a paycheck more than helping kids learn. #edchat doctorjeff 1/4/11 8:01 PM @jgmac1106 you can compromise. It's really about the art of herding cats, I mean teaching. #edchat espanateacher 1/4/11 8:01 PM @cfanch #edchat Good point. Varied learning isn't for everyone. Some students need more direction than PL for college prep. chadsansing 1/4/11 8:01 PM @mtechman #edchat learning commons is where it's at; you have to help me think through cataloging, curating games & systems ;) doctorjeff 1/4/11 8:02 PM @mbteach and if you don't encourage student voice in younger grades, what can one expect in future grades? #edchat porchdragon 1/4/11 agreement there. #edchat 8:02 PM @daveandcori @cpaterso totally in

beachcat11 1/4/11 8:02 PM RT @BABBIS22: Always inspiring! Thank you! @tomwhitby @kylepace @mbteach @web20classroom @ShellTerrell @stumpteacher #edchat jgmac1106 1/4/11 8:02 PM Thank you! @tomwhitby @kylepace @mbteach @web20classroom @ShellTerrell @stumpteacher #edchat azmichelle 1/4/11 8:02 PM RT @sguditus: Really, education shouldn't be about teaching - it should be about learning. #edchat mgraffin 1/4/11 8:02 PM @wagga @Edu_Traveler I've taught in disadvantage areas as a relief teacher in Australia. But never as tough as that #edchat

espanateacher 1/4/11 8:02 PM @reasoningmind #edchat In a world of standards-based curriculum and testing-based learning, KWL charts would be great for every teacher. web20classroom 1/4/11 Archive: http://bit.ly/d7hYAg reasoningmind 1/4/11 everyone, and welcome back! 8:02 PM 8:02 PM @daveandcori #edchat Great #edchat! Thanks,

chadsansing 1/4/11 8:02 PM @espanateacher #edchat we're starting economics & many boys are planning to write economic descriptions/critiques of in-game economies gemswinc 1/4/11 8:03 PM requirements be self-directed? #edchat How can any class with state testing

cfanch 1/4/11 8:03 PM @chadsansing I just starred that and plan on sharing with our economics teacher. Great Idea. #edchat RussGoerend 1/4/11 8:03 PM RT @devenkblack: @B_Wagoner @Edu_traveler Assessment should be a continuous process, not something set aside for a certain time or place. #edchat mgraffin 1/4/11 8:03 PM RT @wagga: @Edu_Traveler @mgraffin I agree but I don't think that there is only one answer on how to educate children. We have to be flexible #edchat butwait 1/4/11 8:04 PM @drsarahwarren asks # of folks participating in #edchat.... wondering if @shellterrell @tomwhitby et al keep track of those stats... #edchat doctorjeff 1/4/11 8:04 PM @drsarahwarren hiya! #edchat

espanateacher 1/4/11 8:04 PM RT@web20classroom But maybe that raises the motivation question. What to do when kids don't want to participate? #edchat doctorjeff 1/4/11 8:04 PM @jgmac1106 there's a difference. It's much harder 2 push a wet noodle than herd cats. One is physically impossible, the other an art #edchat tomwhitby 1/4/11 Archive #edchat 8:05 PM @butwait All of that is kept in the

lookforsun 1/4/11 8:05 PM @devenkblack #edchat I assess each week to see which goals I hit and what I still need to work on.

butwait 1/4/11 8:05 PM Son just came in to say, "Actually, can I teach YOU some trumpet fingering?" I know a great opportunity when I hear one. Gotta go! #edchat TeachingTrisha 1/4/11 8:05 PM RT @zecool:Great line!RT @cybraryman1: RT @cpaterso:The best teaching is when learners do the explaining & teachers do the listening.#edchat doctorjeff 1/4/11 8:05 PM @drsarahwarren I think #edchat sometimes gets 400. Anybody, is that right? schneiderb 1/4/11 8:05 PM What IS the role of Social Media in education? 1 Question Interview [Blog Post] http://su.pr/2V6q9O #edsocialmedia #edtech #edchat coopmike48 1/4/11 8:06 PM RT @tomwhitby: Don't forget to join us & almost 7'000 collaborative educators on The Educator's PLN www.edupln.com #Edchat JenLaurits 1/4/11 8:06 PM RT @CTuckerEnglish: Thank u! RT @sophia: @CTuckerEnglish gr8 post on Differentiated Instruction&how tech can help students http://exm.nr/i5Dls9 #edchat Edu_Traveler 1/4/11 8:06 PM @wagga @mgraffin You are very right. There is no one model for all students. PL is just a favorite of mines :) #edchat ToughLoveforX 1/4/11 8:06 PM @mtechman An under appreciated fact about good Project Managment, is the job is creating a self organized team. Not keeping charts. #edchat raysadad 1/4/11 8:07 PM Seth nails it! RT @steverubel: Seth Godin: In defense of RSS http://j.mp/fm7bvv #edchat #ukedchat #CanEd ph_dupuis 1/4/11 8:07 PM via @zecool : RT @cybraryman1: RT @cpaterso: The best teaching is when learners do the explaining and teachers do the listening. #edchat lookforsun 1/4/11 8:07 PM @espanateacher #edchat schools need to have a variety of pl options so all students can find something they are interested in - ideal world. doctorjeff 1/4/11 8:07 PM @gemswinc I think it's the sandbox model. We are going to play in this sandbox today. Now go play. #edchat wagga 1/4/11 8:07 PM @Edu_Traveler @mgraffin I think we should have the toolbox open so we can use what might work for diverse students #edchat

KennCompton 1/4/11 8:07 PM words hinder our imaginations. #edchat

RT @TeachPaperless: Our

PititaCarita 1/4/11 8:07 PM I like that RT @aleaness: Real learning, deep learning requires uninterrupted time #edchat devenkblack 1/4/11 8:07 PM @lookforsun I assess every minute to see if students are engaged, participating and showing understanding. #edchat DahlD 1/4/11 8:08 PM RT @CoachAllam: Welcome these new Edutweeters: @gglennos @franklinlori @kbourlandoe @1olballcoach @rachelaonw @amydhastings midwesthorn16 @coachprb #edchat cfanch 1/4/11 8:08 PM thanks everyone for another great edition of Tuesday Night Hurt Your Brain. And, if you're #fit42 count these calories burned. #edchat gemswinc 1/4/11 8:08 PM skills all at once #edchat #notime Can't teach content & inquiry & basic

CoachAllam 1/4/11 8:08 PM Welcome these new Edutweeters: @gglennos @franklinlori @kbourlandoe @1olballcoach @rachelaonw @amydhastings midwesthorn16 @coachprb #edchat chadsansing 1/4/11 8:08 PM #edchat of course, best way to ensure participatory learning is to decentralize schls, embed them in community orgs & biz, right? ;) doctorjeff 1/4/11 8:08 PM @gemswinc student self-direction still can have boundaries. Take #edchat We are self-directed within the bounds of the Q for 2nite. TeachingTrisha 1/4/11 8:08 PM RT @jgmac1106: @ksivick @mbteach If you are interested in measuring participatory learning. Then yes it is always about the process. #edchat mgraffin 1/4/11 8:08 PM Brilliant - RT @drsarahwarren: how many tweeters do you get? RT @doctorjeff: You want a good model for participatory learning? HERE: #edchat lookforsun 1/4/11 8:08 PM @wagga #edchat - yes, flexibility.

lookforsun 1/4/11 8:09 PM @doctorjeff #edchat - great for exploration stage, later stages depend on project goals, student's developmental stage.

TeachingTrisha 1/4/11 8:09 PM RT @mgraffin: @Edu_Traveler @wagga Maybe we should try to find something that is directly relevant to their lives #edchat TY! doctorjeff 1/4/11 8:09 PM What if we take the #edchat model to the next level. We come together as learners each Tuesday and gather around a particular question. enrichingkids 1/4/11 8:09 PM RT @raysadad: @doctorjeff I love that concept, too. But every Society has a hotly contested agenda for its children. #edchat mattledding 1/4/11 8:09 PM RT @EDUTOPIA: New! Project-Based Learning: A Case 4 Not Giving Up http://bit.ly/fxKkgH (via @suzieboss) #pbl #edchat InvasiveNotes 1/4/11 8:09 PM RT @gemswinc: Can't teach content & inquiry & basic skills all at once #edchat #notime #regentscoming B_Wagoner 1/4/11 8:09 PM Yes! RT@orchfan: @b_wagoner we need to get our WSR tweeters on here for #edchat wagga 1/4/11 discussions 8:10 PM #edchat thanks for the thought provoking

elightkeeper 1/4/11 8:10 PM HNY! I'm out of the woods, tweeple. New blog post at the elighthouse: http://wp.me/pDuT9-63 #edchat DahlD 1/4/11 8:10 PM RT @courosa: At workshop on pnls at a conference in Hawaii. Please say hi, let us know where you're from, why plns important. #edchat lookforsun 1/4/11 8:10 PM @TeachPaperless #edchat how do words hinder imagination - sometimes words can describe imagination - I want to know more. mgraffin 1/4/11 8:10 PM laptop battery almost dead. I'm logging off #edchat for the day. @nykat4 , @carolgau I'll be in touch blairteach 1/4/11 8:10 PM @rodaniel Sadly, lack of experience holds back many tchrs from trying it, yet we only GET experience by doing it--a conundrum. #edchat WackJacq 1/4/11 8:10 PM College applicants try to sharpen their profiles with video essays - http://wapo.st/dGetjI #edchat gemswinc 1/4/11 8:10 PM !@doctorjeff If you are judged on their test scores at the end of the year #edchat

enrichingkids 1/4/11 8:10 PM RT @schneiderb: What IS the role of Social Media in education? 1 Question Interview [Blog Post] http://su.pr/2V6q9O #edsocialmedia #edtech #edchat HappyTeacherLA 1/4/11 8:10 PM @ChrisVacek I'd say rich kids think every1 has their choices & poor ones have no idea there's more than 2 #edchat enrichingkids 1/4/11 whats ours. lol! #edchat 8:10 PM @raysadad That is so true, wonder

doctorjeff 1/4/11 8:11 PM The question for the nite constrains the exploration, but within that framework we learn, we reconsider, we explore. #edchat espanateacher 1/4/11 8:11 PM @mbteach I agree, but can all students think deeply? Abstract thinking is not a given. How can we teach it? #edchat TeachingTrisha 1/4/11 8:11 PM RT @royanlee: Learners with low self-efficacy struggle with choice. We need to increase these levels. #edchat nykat4 1/4/11 8:11 PM @mgraffin Look forward to it. Night! #edchat

doctorjeff 1/4/11 8:12 PM Why cannot such a philosophical model be applied in a classroom setting constrained by a curriculum? #edchat It could with right curriculum bethlisser 1/4/11 8:12 PM RT @cpaterso: The best teaching is when learners do the explaining and teachers do the listening. #edchat doctorjeff 1/4/11 8:13 PM @gemswinc I don't know what 'on task' means here. And, very very sadly yes I know there are two Americas. #edchat ViSandford 1/4/11 8:13 PM Top Eleven Things All Teachers Must Know About Technology http://ow.ly/3yoyK #canmore #abed #banff #edchat ashleydburleson 1/4/11 8:13 PM RT @HappyTeacherLA: @ChrisVacek I'd say rich kids think every1 has their choices & poor ones have no idea there's more than 2 #edchat pschoolsystems 1/4/11 8:13 PM Thanks for the great #edchat conversation tonight! @andreamiller20 @doctorjeff @tshreve @tomwhitby @hshawjr

lookforsun 1/4/11 8:13 PM @devenkblack #edchat when you think of informal assessment, You're right I'm always assessing to decide what the next move like a chess game enrichingkids 1/4/11 8:13 PM @blairteach I so agree! We had this conversation at our school. How to accept the chaos n make it useful? #edchat doctorjeff 1/4/11 8:14 PM @gemswinc RE test scores. Are we talking about what ought to be, or what is unfortunately required to be in the here and now? #edchat enrichingkids 1/4/11 8:14 PM Many Thanks, Nice Chatting @blairteach, @jgmac1106, @chrisvacek, @eliza_peterson, @mbteach, @mgraffin! #edchat tomwhitby 1/4/11 8:14 PM @espanateacher Not all learning requires teaching, but rather a learning environment and a little nurturing. #edchat wagga 1/4/11 8:14 PM @TeachingTrisha @mgraffin @Edu_Traveler "Relevant" is a major word here. Students decide relevancy--but focused on the curriculum #edchat newfirewithin 1/4/11 8:15 PM Absolutely could not follow #edchat tonight. I was actually home and I tried, but I failed. It seemed lively though. . . wagga 1/4/11 8:15 PM Thanks of the #edchat conversation tonight. Goodnight from eastern Long Island mbteach 1/4/11 8:15 PM @espanateacher thinking deeply and thinking abstractly are two different things IMHO #edchat ladyteachkdg 1/4/11 8:15 PM RT @cybraryman1 The best teaching is when learners do the explaining and teachers do the listening. #edchat #kinderchat TeachingTrisha 1/4/11 8:15 PM #edchat all. Very informative! Ditto!! RT @DahlD: Thanks for a great

drsarahwarren 1/4/11 8:15 PM That's a lot! Am writing at the moment so on sidelines RT @doctorjeff: @drsarahwarren I think #edchat sometimes gets 400. lookforsun 1/4/11 8:16 PM #edchat - thanks for a thoughtful chat!

devenkblack 1/4/11 8:16 PM @lookforsun I've never put a lot of faith into formal assessment. I do it but don't always trust it. #edchat wagga 1/4/11 8:16 PM right side of the post? #edchat BTW How come my profile picture is on the

chadsansing 1/4/11 8:16 PM thanks #edchat - great topic, great conversation; enjoy your work & second semester w/ your kids! InvasiveNotes 1/4/11 8:16 PM RT @doctorjeff: The question for the nite constrains the exploration, but within that framework we learn, we reconsider, we explore. #edchat johnnybevacqua 1/4/11 8:16 PM @MrWejr #edchat #bced

johnnybevacqua 1/4/11 8:17 PM Trying to wrap my head around Falcon's announement?!@MrWejr #edchat #bced Bio_prof 1/4/11 8:17 PM RT @espanateacher: @mbteach I agree, but can all students think deeply? Abstract thinking is not a given. How can we teach it? #edchat espanateacher 1/4/11 8:17 PM @JenniferBarnett @nykat4 Sadly, no, our privacy policy doesn't allow it. Great 4 interpersonal learners, & intra learners opted out. #edchat tkraz 1/4/11 8:18 PM @courosa: Hello from Silver Spring, Maryland! W/out PLN I wouldn't be learning from MANY people outside of my building daily. #edchat doctorjeff 1/4/11 8:18 PM @gemswinc ok, understand. My pbm ed is far too focused on content and not enough on process. My vision is quite diff than today #edchat CoachAllam 1/4/11 8:18 PM RT @tomwhitby: Here is a Prezi for Principals: "What Great Principals Do Differently" http://bit.ly/eDZ2lP #Edchat espanateacher #edchat 1/4/11 8:18 PM @andreamiller20 Thanks!

web20classroom 1/4/11 8:18 PM RT @CoachB0066: RT @tomwhitby: Here is a Prezi for Principals: "What Great Principals Do Differently" http://bit.ly/eDZ2lP #Edchat doctorjeff 1/4/11 8:19 PM @gemswinc I cannot subscribe to what is required in the here and now. It must change. It must be changed. #edchat I'm trying in my own way.

sammorra 1/4/11 8:20 PM RT @tomwhitby: @espanateacher Not all learning requires teaching, but rather a learning environment and a little nurturing. #edchat espanateacher 1/4/11 8:20 PM @chadsansing Good point. We need to better educate teachers in math and science to show those branching paths. #edchat espanateacher indeed. #edchat 1/4/11 8:21 PM @wagga @lookforsun Ideal,

newfirewithin 1/4/11 8:21 PM @ktenkely #edchat seemed heavy duty tonight. I simply could not understand or keep up. #tiredbrainfail espanateacher 1/4/11 you teach? #edchat 8:21 PM @chadsansing What grade do

espanateacher 1/4/11 8:22 PM @tomwhitby How can we prepare teachers to develop learning environments? #edchat doctorjeff 1/4/11 8:22 PM To #edchat ters If u missed: Here is an essay at HuffPost on the Power of Twitter for Education http://huff.to/dgPwa2 teachbeyond 1/4/11 8:22 PM Students need more role models of a passion + curiosity for learning rather than critics + evaluators of it! #edchat #ntchat #rscon11 espanateacher 1/4/11 8:23 PM @mbteach Good point. But not all kids think deeply, either. How do we help them get there? #edchat doctorjeff 1/4/11 8:23 PM @gemswinc what, SSEP? Grades 5-14. We have e.g., 5th grade experiments - designed by the students - flying on the Space Shuttle. #edchat johntspencer 1/4/11 8:23 PM Thinking deeply is often narrowly defined as analytical thinking and misses the paradox, mystery of deep thought #edchat tomwhitby 1/4/11 8:24 PM @espanateacher By educating educators as we did on #edchat tonight. They need to be Lifelong Learners as they profess to their students. CircleReader 1/4/11 8:25 PM RT @chadsansing: #edchat of course, best way to ensure participatory learning is to decentralize schls, embed them in community orgs & biz, right? ;)

kmhmartin 1/4/11 8:25 PM RT @doctorjeff: To #edchat ters If u missed: Here is an essay at HuffPost on the Power of Twitter for Education http://huff.to/dgPwa2 doctorjeff 1/4/11 8:25 PM Daddy, when I grow up I want 2b a #teacher:) "Good 4u! It's the noblest profession" Art of Teaching @HuffPost http://huff.to/AWvTw #edchat deb_norton 1/4/11 8:25 PM neatest art site! #edchat #elemchat http://bit.ly/bFG0rm This is the

Bio_prof 1/4/11 8:25 PM RT @doctorjeff: To #edchat ters If u missed: Here is an essay at HuffPost on the Power of Twitter for Education http://huff.to/dgPwa2 daley1s 1/4/11 8:26 PM RT @waltguitar: The crisis in creativity - great article here. http://bit.ly/bTOLiV #edchat mbteach 1/4/11 to deep thinking. #edchat 8:26 PM @espanateacher good questions lead @tomwhitby Very true. Thank

espanateacher 1/4/11 8:27 PM you for your insightful conversation. #edchat

MrsC_teach 1/4/11 8:27 PM RT @tomwhitby: @espanateacher Not all learning requires teaching, but rather a learning environment and a little nurturing. #edchat mwiscount 1/4/11 8:27 PM RT @cybraryman1: My Self-Directed Learning page: http://www.cybraryman.com/selfdirectedlearning.html #edchat Akevy613 1/4/11 8:27 PM RT @tomwhitby: @espanateacher Not all learning requires teaching, but rather a learning environment and a little nurturing. #edchat Frankwspencer 1/4/11 8:28 PM RT @johntspencer: "Thinking deeply" is often narrowly defined as analytical thinking and misses the paradox, mystery of deep thought #edchat WackJacq 1/4/11 8:28 PM the stimulating exchange of ideas! Thank you all in #edchat tonight for

WackJacq 1/4/11 8:29 PM RT @jdthomas7: 7 Reasons U Need an iPad in yr Classroom & 10 Ways 2 Use Them http://bit.ly/gOfvFB #edchat Frankwspencer 1/4/11 8:29 PM RT @mbteach: @espanateacher thinking deeply and thinking abstractly are two different things IMHO #edchat

colonelb 1/4/11 8:29 PM RT @DailyRiff Would You Hire Your Own Kids? 7 Skills Schools Should Be Teaching Them http://dailyriff.com/291 #blog4reform #edchat espanateacher 1/4/11 8:30 PM @mbteach I like that. Help students ask more questions. And ask good questions yourself. I shall reflect on that. #edchat johntspencer 1/4/11 8:30 PM @mbteach I'm a fan of analysis and logic, but even logic will lead toward paradox #edchat tomwhitby 1/4/11 8:30 PM @espanateacher You are very welcome. You may want to join us on the Educator's PLN www.edupln.com #edchat