Archive Session 90

ukedchat Archive 22 Mar 2012 Hosted by @ICTmagic
How can we ensure pupils become independent, adaptive & innovative learners?
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It's 8pm. Time for #ukedchat about 'How can we ensure pupils become independent, adaptive & innovative learners?' with @ICTmagic. #ukedchat I know I go on about it but helping pupils to ePaceonline learn about how they learn is vital. Don't forget to join in a little #DLchat after #ukedchat SheliBB tonight RT @ukedchat: It's 8pm. Time for #ukedchat about emmaannhardy 'How can we ensure pupils become independent, adaptive & innovative learners?' with @ICTmagic. RT @creatorious: http://t.co/IOhX9bmL - how do you JamiePortman measure emotional deprivation, social dysfunction & impact on T&L? #MLDP #UKedchat I'd like to begin by discussing what barriers there are to ICTmagic getting independent, adaptive & innovative learners & how to over come. #ukedchat @TaffTykeC More like sharing great ideas re creative brynll curriculum and learning. Check out http://t.co/RYZIUbcC #ukedchat RT @brynll: Looking forward to #ukedchat? MT check chrismayoh out http://t.co/RYZIUbcC for report on @WholeEducation 'Whose Curriculum is it, Anyway?' If you are chatting with us for #ukedchat, make sure you ukedchat unprotect your tweets & use the hashtag. I have run a mini-business project over the last few MrWaldram years and that has been fantastic. http://t.co/7Q58XtLF #ukedchat Let kids collaborate, plan, create and share globally 8rinaldi #ukedchat @ICTmagic stereo type teaching, not giving any bucharesttutor freedom to Ss and tried and tested classroom methods are some of the roadblocks #ukedchat RT @ukedchat: It's 8pm. Time for #ukedchat about joclap89 'How can we ensure pupils become independent, adaptive & innovative learners?' with @ICTmagic. RT @ukedchat: It's 8pm. Time for #ukedchat about Hub_SpokeHarlow 'How can we ensure pupils become independent, adaptive & innovative learners?' with @ICTmagic. RT @MathsMummy: #ukedchat by giving them aknill opportunities to discover things rather than showing and telling them. Very much looking forward to #DLchat with @SheliBB chrismayoh and @ICTEvangelist at 9pm GMT, straight after #ukedchat - Join us! ukedchat
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ePaceonline catmill cherylren MrWaldram jamesmichie mbrayford Smithlah peter8green TomCorfield bobharrisonset MrMathsTeacher MrWaldram ICTmagic mrpeel Starshine_Music bellaale jamesmichie
#ukedchat helping pupils to take off 'straight jackets' of being spoon-fed and letting them think for themselves @ICTmagic I guess the biggest barrier is temptation to teach to the test which often comes from pupils and parents IMHO #ukedchat @ICTmagic Biggest barrier may be the kind of teaching that doesn't challenge learners to *think* #ukedchat 1 of the big issues i have with tests is that children aren't ready for them. It takes independence to read and answer Qs. Ideas? #ukedchat Plan 1 lesson per week 4 each of ur classes where u set them off on task/project. U let them learn, focus on formative assessment #ukedchat Need to teach children how to adapt and apply skills to different scenarios #ukedchat @ePaceonline: #ukedchat I know I go on about it but helping pupils to learn about how they learn is vital.completely agree 2 biggest barriers are OFSTED and staff not willing to re educate themselves about the role of teacher #ukedchat RT @peter8green: 2 biggest barriers are OFSTED and staff not willing to re educate themselves about the role of teacher #ukedchat RT @chrismayoh: Very much looking forward to #DLchat with @SheliBB and @ICTEvangelist at 9pm GMT, straight after #ukedchat - Join us! @ukedchat develop independence by designating the first 5 minutes of a new task as 'no question' time. No asking for help! #ukedchat @8rinaldi I've done that and we're in the process of doing it again. #ukedchat @Starshine_Music Is it possible (even if not desirable) to amend league tables and encourage creativity at the same time? #ukedchat #ukedchat allow them room to make mistakes and encourage them to explore their imagination - no spoon feeding. getting rid of league tables would create space and freedom for independence both in teaching and learning #ukedchat let them fail, pick themselves up and understand why, then succeed. Rinse, then repeat. #ukedchat RT @bellaale: let them fail, pick themselves up and
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understand why, then succeed. Rinse, then repeat. #ukedchat RT @peter8green: 2 biggest barriers are OFSTED and staff not willing to re educate themselves about the role of teacher #ukedchat How do you claim your Vat back as an educational establishment? #ukedchat RT @Smithlah: @ePaceonline: #ukedchat I know I go on about it but helping pupils to learn about how they learn is vital.completely agree @catmill Should we adapt the test or adapt the teaching? #ukedchat @Mr_t2 @porkpiebaby thoughts? @Mr_t2 get out of red square - you need this soon... #ukedchat #ukedchat What is an 'innovative learner'? RT @bellaale: let them fail, pick themselves up and understand why, then succeed. Rinse, then repeat. #ukedchat > absolutely agree RT @HPTeachExchange: Women's history month is here! Here's a list of excellent resources. http://t.co/Hwa9E78C #vitalcpd #ukedchat @mbrayford yup #ukedchat @Carlsberg40 Does that have a lower age limit? Are any aged children able to make that choice? #ukedchat #ukedchat I want to start a literacy breakfast club whereby pupils blog in the morning during having breakfast any ideas how to get funding @mrmathsteacher interesting idea... #ukedchat RT @bellaale: let them fail, pick themselves up and understand why, then succeed. Rinse, then repeat. #ukedchat To encourage innovation you need to offer choice in the classroom. Not encouraged 2do that- remember the "three part lesson" ? #Ukedchat @Carlsberg40 @ICTmagic yes exactly, Ss must be allowed to choose the way she learns and understands the topics, eg, less homework #ukedchat @ictmagic both... more the test IMO #ukedchat Are you an outstanding teacher seeking employment for September? Then take a look here: http://t.co/3xzcKmSb #ukedchat - Please RT. @ICTmagic @catmill #ukedchat historically most education has not been 'tested' @richards_james could you use pupil premium money?
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MissLegh hlmrmo Brendano ICTmagic mrpeel bellaale Kezmerrelda MrWaldram cherylren jamesmichie norfolkTeachers richards_james soos24 soos24 aknill aknill
#ukedchat RT @bellaale: let them fail, pick themselves up and understand why, then succeed. Rinse, then repeat. #ukedchat Be role models - show them that we are those types of learner #ukedchat @MrMathsTeacher @ukedchat #ukedchat Like your 5min 'no question' time .... @bellaale Failing is seen as... well... a failure. How can we change this and who needs to kick start it? #ukedchat #ukedchat @jamesdhobsonuk innovation still stifled by shortsighted SLT approach to ICT I think I'll stop there; clearly won't say anything as wellreceived as that again all evening! ;) #ukedchat #ukedchat barriers not letting children having any control over what they want to learn. Not a real barrier of course as you can do this! Ive used help tokens before when exploring something difficult: shakespeare, they have to think/talk and use tokens wisely. #ukedchat RT @SurrealAnarchy: #ukedchat What is an 'innovative learner'? Heres my recently submitted M.Ed assignment on Independent Learning - focus on Y12 Media, developing IL: https://t.co/Nt9JJu11 #ukedchat RT @chrismayoh: Very much looking forward to #DLchat with @SheliBB and @ICTEvangelist at 9pm GMT, straight after #ukedchat - Join us! #ukedchat blogging breakfast club would involve getting funding to get tech etc and foodstuff etc any suggestions who to apply to welcomed RT @ICTmagic: @bellaale Failing is seen as... well... a failure. How can we change this and who needs to kick start it? #ukedchat RT @ICTmagic: @bellaale Failing is seen as... well... a failure. How can we change this and who needs to kick start it? #ukedchat #ukedchat give them freedom to explore and teachers who are adaptive and innovative too. Share between staff and pupils. #ukedchat give them freedom to explore and teachers who are adaptive and innovative too. Share between staff and pupils.
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@jamesmichie #ukedchat spoonfeeding is also recrreated by over use of group learning - need to function as individuals. @mrpeel shortsighted how? #ukedchat RT @chrismayoh: Are you an outstanding teacher seeking employment for September? Then take a look here: http://t.co/3xzcKmSb #ukedchat - Please RT. @SurrealAnarchy How does one assess the ability of the students for suitability to a job or next level of study? #ukedchat @bellaale ha ha no give us more !!!! #ukedchat @Catherine_S88 #ukedchat, I really think it's a problem and yes, it makes pupils over reliant on teachers instead of thinking for themselves RT @mrpeel: @jamesmichie #ukedchat spoonfeeding is also recrreated by over use of group learning - need to function as individuals. @jamesdhobsonuk #ukedchat reluctant to allow wifi to use ipad etc - too many restrictions - cant read twitter in school... Project work, collaborating on a subject that interests them. Presented as they choose. These skills need explicit teaching first. #ukedchat @ukedchat by providing learning experiences full of discovery, allowing mistakes to happen, and being pupil initiated! #ukedchat RT @bellaale: let them fail, pick themselves up and understand why, then succeed. Rinse, then repeat. #ukedchat Motivation, meta-cognition, AfL, learn to learn, collaboration, letting them fail. Its not abt 1 of these, its about all of them. #ukedchat an idea that i've stolenn from @natkojak is that rather than dishing out jobs at the start of the year, ch should apply for em #ukedchat RT @chrismayoh: Are you an outstanding teacher seeking employment for September? Then take a look here: http://t.co/3xzcKmSb #ukedchat - Please RT. @bellaale #ukedchat Allow yourself to try things in front of class that you haven't done before, and if you fail try again, challenge them @soos24 it's not a failure if you've learnt something... #ukedchat
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agree @janbaker97 needs a culture change from punitive Ofsted criteria & regime to letting up teach again without fear #ukedchat Change test or teaching? Chicken and egg? Often heard "is this going to be in the test?" or "can't you just tell us the answer" :( #ukedchat @peter8green agreed, OFSTED have defined too much of our practice over the last decade - with out any good basis, more of a whim! #ukedchat Not sure I know what an 'adaptive' or 'innovative' learner is? #ukedchat @ICTmagic how does or how did ? #ukedchat #ukedchat in Mathematics, do we provide opportunities to be confident with number rather than just competent when they follow a procedure? @janbaker97 Are they other ways to monitor and maintain standards other than a outside body observing teaching and learning? #ukedchat @mrpeel Agreed What I was getting at was that 2 many teacher r sage on stage every lesson. Sometimes we need 2 b guide on side #ukedchat @mrpeel @jamesmichie we also need to let children work in different groups . not just ability / friendship -overcome barriers #ukedchat @ICTmagic I try to model graceful, on-the-way-to success failure as often as possible... ;) #ukedchat #ukedchat Children need to make more decisions and be encouraged to ask more questions. #ukedchat i like to get students to teach sections in class - not present but teach... confident handling question and answer @natkojak rather than dishing out jobs at the start of/throughout the year, chn should apply for them #ukedchat #PGDEplacement #ukedchat Too much control-the idea that there can be 'bad' teaching rather than ineffective in current context. RT @soos24: @bellaale #ukedchat Allow yourself to try things in front of class that you haven't done before, and if you fail try again,... @ukedchat we can not be afraid to let the pupils make mistakes to quote 'the only REAL mistake is the one we learn nothing from' #ukedchat @SurrealAnarchy How 'did' and 'could' once again without testing? #ukedchat
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ePaceonline materialteacher jamesmichie SheliBB soos24 jamesmichie mrpeel Brendano genkijen guildofteaching MrWaldram Catherine_S88 futurebehaviour PeterSpencer88 mrpeel ICTEvangelist materialteacher StephenLev
@MathsMummy #ukedchat completely agree #ukedchat I've recently done some TEEP training and the whole premise of that is to get students working effectively as independent students @genkijen @mrpeel agreed, embrace a wide range of scenarios for learning. #ukedchat I try to personalise learning by asking chdn what they want to learn, at the start of the year #ukedchat easy to incorporate their choices @MrWaldram #ukedchat absolutely, have just spent 3 hours at y8 parents eve telling them just that! don't be afraid to try things RT @mrpeel: #ukedchat i like to get students to teach sections in class - not present but teach... confident handling question and answer #ukedchat risk takers is at centre of IB profile - no risk -no achievement- no learning @ukedchat @ictmagic In science, we encourage creativity+collab+deep thought by giving Ss cameras then http://t.co/ErgMzupZ #ukedchat @mrpeel child as teacher can be really effective even at primary #ukedchat A great topic for #ukedchat tonight: developing independent learners @mathsmummy I don't think so. Not enough application, not just in maths but in real life! #ukedchat Personalisation is key! We should be creating learning ecperiences that will prepare children for real-life outside of education #ukedchat If we want intrinsically motivated students, we should stop our obsession with reward charts, stamps and stickers. #ukedchat @materialteacher I've not heard of that. How does it work? #ukedchat @genkijen #ukedchat important they teach and not just present, but totally agree #ukedchat how do we help students to be more independent? Give them the opportunity to fail and fail again #ukedchat part of a TEEP lesson is agreeing learning outcomes- I use a wish list for them to set their own quite often. A lot of people talking about fear of failure. Where is that from? #ukedchat
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ICTmagic cherylren SheliBB johnmayo MrWaldram genkijen MissionExplore Catherine_S88 BenRogersOVA Educationchat materialteacher jamesmichie chrismayoh raisechildrens jackieschneider jamesdhobsonuk
Why do we want our learners to be independent, adaptive & innovative? Do we? #ukedchat @SurrealAnarchy Are you sceptical about the term "innovative learner?" #ukedchat RT @chrismayoh: Very much looking forward to #DLchat with @SheliBB and @ICTEvangelist at 9pm GMT, straight after #ukedchat - Join us! RT @cherylren: "Pose, pause, pounce, bounce" gets them thinking for themselves http://t.co/UrnCK1kM #ukedchat #ukedchat If you've not seen this, bookmark it for later and comment pls http://t.co/aVhQop51 peers teaching each other methods, cascading down the class has been really effective you have to know it to teach it #ukedchat #ukedchat risk and creativity come together. Good learning and good creativity can't take place without risk taking.. @SheliBB We do this in our school also, the children are engaged and onboard with their own learning from the beginning #ukedchat Agreed: QT @ICTEvangelist: #ukedchat how do we help students to be more independent? Give them the opportunity to fail and fail again Bolton project: The MILE Awards (Making Independent Learning Exciting) - fantastic at just this! #ukedchat @PeterSpencer88 #ukedchat- there are whole host of premises- essentially it's training them HOW to be learners whilst teaching content IL is clearly a popular topic amongst the #ukedchat crowd, perhaps we need to do more about it than discuss it on Thursday evenings? 38 people currently looking at teaching vacancies at Bowling Park. You too...? http://t.co/3xzcKmSb #ukedchat #edchat #ukedchat allowing them to not only make mistakes but to question whether it really was a mistake... #ukedchat - I think we r micro managed as teachers & denied opportunity to teach independently so we do same to kids! @futurebehaviour I RTed yr tweet but part of me wonders how far intrinsic motivation really exists #ukedchat
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BenRogersOVA cherylren materialteacher jamesmichie mrpeel mikeatedji soos24 Miss_M_Lally BenRogersOVA TaffTykeC peter8green jamesdhobsonuk MathsMummy jackieschneider nohandsup genkijen MattOswin
@StephenLev Small children don't have that fear. I wonder if it is developmental or learnt. I think a mixture of both #ukedchat @Brendano: In science, we encourage creativity+collab+deep thought by giving Ss cameras then http://t.co/s8nJ3FUT #ukedchat #scimath @genkijen #ukedchat- this is great- I have learnt more about my own subject by teaching it so why not apply it to students? @ICTmagic Because they will not have us there forever & in terms of FE and HE they will be expected to be ILs. #ukedchat @jamesmichie #ukedchat suggestions? #ukedchat we ask it of the pupils but are we independent, adaptive and innovative? Do we model these ? @ICTmagic #ukedchat rewards for students who tell me they have solved their own 'how do I do that' RT @ICTmagic: http://t.co/o5aeg9na Practise coordinates by moving shapes to using rotation, translation & reflection. #edtect #ukedchat RT @Educationchat: Bolton project: The MILE Awards (Making Independent Learning Exciting) - fantastic at just this! #ukedchat Put children at the centre of their own learning and step back. Facilitate so they have a vested interest in their own interests #ukedchat RT @raisechildrens: #ukedchat allowing them to not only make mistakes but to question whether it really was a mistake... RT @jackieschneider: #ukedchat - I think we r micro managed as teachers & denied opportunity to teach independently so we do same to kids! @MrWaldram Absolutely. Too many children are learning to follow procedures rather than apply thinking and make decisions. #ukedchat @futurebehaviour - here bloody here! Virtue is its own reward not a pile of stickers! #ukedchat For Independent Learning tips read Schunk and Zimmerman - Self Regulated Learning #ukedchat RT @mikeatedji: #ukedchat we ask it of the pupils but are we independent, adaptive and innovative? Do we model these ? @raisechildrens @peter8green It's not a mistake if they
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mrpeel ePaceonline MrWaldram IrashaiServices IamMrBooth MissionExplore materialteacher relativism genkijen ePaceonline tmeeky ICTmagic bellaale Educationchat raisechildrens super_sixfive StephenLev
learn from it #ukedchat #ukedchat I write to my blog and prepare stimulus material - hope stdnts see my attempts at independence and follow suit... @materialteacher #ukedchat indeed, when pupils understand how they learn and process information they can take more control of own learning RT @raisechildrens: #ukedchat allowing them to not only make mistakes but to question whether it really was a mistake... RT @Smithlah: @ePaceonline: #ukedchat I know I go on about it but helping pupils to learn about how they learn is vital.completely agree RT @nohandsup: For Independent Learning tips read Schunk and Zimmerman - Self Regulated Learning #ukedchat @BenRogersOVA @ictevangelist yes, but this also needs to take place outside of the box that is the classroom. #ukedchat #ukedchat- TEEP also promotes collaborative workingbefore embarking on a group task- students identify the features of an effective group #ukedchat risk taking seems to scare some people @mikeatedji I am not enough - so how can my kids be ? #ukedchat #ukedchat great question is 'Who has made the best mistake today?' "How to ensure pupils becm independent, adaptive & innovative ?' > make schl more fun and relevant.... %, targets, stats KILL this #ukedchat Failure is a special thing for humans. In the animal world it can mean a premature ending. In humans can take us to the next level #ukedchat RT @genkijen #ukedchat we ask it of pupils but are we independent, adaptive & innovative? Do we model these ? > not all of us, sadly... :( @relativism Yeah - too risky. #ukedchat @janbaker97 #ukedchat I always say have a guess it doesn't matter if you get it wrong. They usually have a go then. #ukedchat we have to teach our students to take managed and controlled risks in the classroom. The fear of failure is prevalent in classes @jackieschneider @ICTmagic #ukedchat I think that's
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MrWaldram materialteacher Primary_Ed ePaceonline Thorschild nohandsup genkijen materialteacher StephenLev MrWaldram jamesmichie ICTmagic TaffTykeC mikeatedji ICTEvangelist ICTmagic ePaceonline Catherine_S88
true extrinsically and intrinsically. RT @epaceonline: #ukedchat great question is 'Who has made the best mistake today?' @jackieschneider #ukedchat- that's true- and quite depressing :-( There should be a chance for them to set their own coursework tasks! What we should be preparing children for http://t.co/i1x1a1BV #ukedchat #edchat RT @super_sixfive: #ukedchat we have to teach our students to take managed and controlled risks in the classroom. The fear of failure is prevalent in classes DfE publish new guidance on school broadband provision #ukedchat #edtech http://t.co/8NhOSInK Independence - who decides WHAT is learned who decides HOW and who decides WHEN - usually the teacher, can we change this? #ukedchat @MathsMummy @MrWaldram I like to give a worked example and get them to unpick it first . What did i do to get the answer ? #ukedchat RT @MrWaldram: RT @epaceonline: #ukedchat great question is 'Who has made the best mistake today?' @super_sixfive #ukedchat Agreed, teachers and system is full of fear. @epaceonline Hooray. I say that, 'good mistake' #ukedchat @mikeatedji I'm not sure many teachers are/do. Autonomy is trained out of many teachers. Others hamstrung by school/curriculum. #ukedchat Creativity et al is vital for their future. What about the here and now? #ukedchat RT @chrismayoh: 38 people currently looking at teaching vacancies at Bowling Park. You too...? http://t.co/3xzcKmSb #ukedchat #edchat #ukedchat Mitch Resnick of Scratch say kindergarten kids imagine/create/play/share/reflect/imagine/create etc but this falls off as they age #ukedchat gives students a framework for successful learning so students know what it looks and feels like #promotingindependentlearning @jackieschneider That's my next question. :) #ukedchat @MrWaldram #ukedchat...you'll be a great teacher then! Teachers should be facilitators of learning, encouraging but also taking a step-back to create independent
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learners #ukedchat @ePaceonline #ukedchat The first 3 arts of the liberal SurrealAnarchy arts curriculum build the skills of independent learning Is creativity, ingenuity and/or independence valued in ICTmagic UK schools? #ukedchat @jackieschneider @ICTmagic That is so true. jamesmichie #ukedchat RT @StephenLev: @super_sixfive #ukedchat Agreed, genkijen teachers and system is full of fear. @jamesmichie Agreed. Twitter is fantastic at raising BenRogersOVA ideas, but need a forum to get properly involved. Any suggestions. #ukedchat RT @ICTmagic: Creativity et al is vital for their future. Hub_SpokeHarlow What about the here and now? #ukedchat RT @mrpeel: #ukedchat i like to get students to teach ICTmagic sections in class - not present but teach... confident handling question and answer @jackieschneider @futurebehaviour No! Kids love Educationchat stickers. Virtue is own reward only for those who understand value of learning. #ukedchat RT @mikeatedji: #ukedchat Mitch Resnick of Scratch say kindergarten kids jamesmichie imagine/create/play/share/reflect/imagine/create etc but this falls off as they age @Catherine_S88 #ukedchat- Agreed- it's giving them materialteacher the right effective learner tools before we do step back also! @jamesmichie YEs, that's a terrible shame I think but I mikeatedji wonder how this impacts on the independent learning agenda we espouse #ukedchat @mbrayford so easy to incorporate children's interests SheliBB throughout the year #ukedchat maybe not so easy in secondary schools 'How to harness the learning power of a good display' jpgreenwood from @guardian: http://t.co/rXT5MRhT #ukedchat #edchat #ukedchat It's interesting on here that the IDEA of StephenLev success, achievement and learning are interchangeable. Is this clear message for pupils? #ukedchat The best way to encourage independent oldandrewuk learners is to avoid ever doing groupwork. @jackieschneider @ICTmagic that's true. You can't get PeterSpencer88 a level 5 in creativity, so government doesn't care #ukedchat
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hlmrmo raisechildrens mrpeel bucharesttutor materialteacher SurrealAnarchy jamesmichie jagodog33 genkijen jackieschneider MrWaldram ePaceonline Primary_Ed AndrewManson1 chrismayoh tmeeky StephenLev Catherine_S88
@ICTmagic Creative approaches will always be of use #ukedchat #ukedchat it's also good to let them experiment in a safe space. One of my "Kre8" girls dons a pair of goggles to do her art pieces! @jamesmichie #ukedchat current AQA B allows it in English as does IBDP which also includes dissertation task... @barbsaka is really making me stop chatting on #ukedchat and wants me to follow #iatefl AWESOME @Educationchat #ukedchat- my adults LOVE getting stickers too!! @cherylren I would like to know what an innovative learner is #ukedchat @mikeatedji Discussed this in my M.Ed assignment. We train students out of creativity. Ken Robinson asserts this too. #ukedchat RT @jackieschneider: #ukedchat - I think we r micro managed as teachers & denied opportunity to teach independently so we do same to kids! @StephenLev @super_sixfive Pupils can smell fear and it creates unease in the classroom I know - I am guilty of being fearful #ukedchat lectured by ministers , threatened by ofsted & bored to death by strategies is it a surprise much teaching is boring? #ukedchat @epaceonline thanks :-) #ukedchat #ukedchat Ingenious teachers keep creativity going in spite of the Nat Curr Stategies/ Approaches for children to become better learners in Literacy http://t.co/G9vN3BW2 #ukedchat #edchat A little less evaluation - a lot more aspiration - and permission to fail in small ways? #ukedchat Why not check out the stunning and ever-growing Digital Leader network blog in preparation for #DLchat at 9pm GMT? #ukedchat - Please RT. IMO pri schooling has become to dull, dry, serious + ofsted driven. Need to relax, make more informal + build curric around childn #ukedchat @genkijen @super_sixfive #ukedchat Hey-we all are! @mattbuxton10 What about skills? Surely giving children skills they can apply in various situations is just as valuable? #ukedchat
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jamesmichie mikeatedji materialteacher super_sixfive MathsMummy SheliBB mikeatedji raisechildrens jackieschneider ICTmagic MrWaldram RavenEllison Starshine_Music jamesmichie SurrealAnarchy MathsMummy materialteacher
@oldandrewuk Disagree. IL is not solo, IL is coindependent - group work, support networks, peerassessment etc all part of IL. #ukedchat @peter8green I'm afraid I think secondary schools, as presently organised with high stakes testing do just that #ukedchat What do u think? @oldandrewuk #ukedchat- an effective learner is one who can work alone but also one who can work as part of a group towards an agreed goal @oldandrewuk: #ukedchat The best way to encourage independent learners is to avoid ever doing groupwork. is that realistic? @Catherine_S88 To support this, we need to know what questions to ask and when to ask them to develop children's thinking. #ukedchat @ePaceonline I made another great mistake today...accidentally started 2 online timed tests at the same time ... Oops #ukedchat @jamesmichie Looking forward to reading later #ukedchat @ICTmagic it is in any school worth going to! #ukedchat @Educationchat @futurebehaviour - I love alcohol but it would be a disaster if I depended on it for motivation! #ukedchat #stickerfreezone @hlmrmo Why? Isn't there a place for students/employees to just do what they are told? #devilsadvocate #ukedchat @Starshine_Music @natkojak haha. Then I force it on someone #ukedchat It's not independent learning. It can't be. It's interdependent learning and this is a dirty, political and power-based business. #ukedchat Young minds are by nature innovative and creative, but that gets drummed out of them by pressure to become conformed to standard #ukedchat @mrpeel as does A-Level Media curriculum but frm my research the examples are few. #ukedchat @oldandrewuk here we go again #ukedchat avoid group work in football? Drama? School Orchestra? @Catherine_S88 This is also very powerful for assessment at the point of learning. #ukedchat @mrpeel #ukedchat- that's so cool- I'm sure it does but what a brilliant idea! If they get used to doing it
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TaffTykeC captainrobs MrWaldram mrpeel StephenLev SheliBB hlmrmo ikeontoast jamesmichie peter8green johndcotter DrHuxTM Educationchat MrWaldram nohandsup Starshine_Music ICTmagic
throughout school then... Children take responsibility for their own learning and develop ideas through talk #talkforlearning #ukedchat @oldandrewuk Agreed. In any group will be one very hard working kid, 1 kid who has done a bit, & the rest will have slacked off. #ukedchat @catherine_s88 depends if you're of the opinion of the esteemed Gove or not! #ukedchat #notesteemed @jamesmichie #ukedchat agree and our children ar enot keen either @ICTmagic @hlmrmo Depends upon what they are being told, surely... #ukedchat @ePaceonline I can model 'learning from my failures' frequently - but show perseverance at the same time! #ukedchat @ICTmagic At times, yes. Same for creativity. #ukedchat #ukedchat not being afraid of kids knowing more than us and doing things we don't have the answers to! That inspires innovation @mikeatedji Negatively. To adopt IL on larger scale, school needs to alter ethos at all levels & provide training. #ukedchat @mikeatedji agree. Students arrive from primary schools with curiosity and thirst for knowledge #ukedchat @Primary_Ed: What we should be preparing children for http://t.co/hlvXU7R6 #ukedchat #edchat Check out http://t.co/Ej0reV1I Ed. @mikeatedji Spot on. Not sure current UK edu climate is conducive to teachers being independent, adaptive and certainly innovative #ukedchat @jackieschneider @futurebehaviour Not the same. If children have worked hard they should be rewarded. We don't teach for nothing. #ukedchat @tmeeky absolutely. Leave us alone and we can make it creative, fun and pack it with learning. #ukedchat #goawayofsted 4 stages of Independence: Observation, Emulation, Self-Control, Self-Regulation #ukedchat QT @jackieschneider: actually our education system is stacked against independent creative learners! We reward the worker bees" #ukedchat Don't the students who do exactly what they are told
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Sarahloooo Sarahloooo jamesmichie PeterSpencer88 PeterSpencer88 Catherine_S88 Mimadisonklein jackieschneider Thorschild ingswaddle materialteacher jamesmichie Educationchat ICTmagic StephenLev ePaceonline Scott_McP captainrobs
more successful in school? Can you be independent/creative at the same time? #ukedchat @SurrealAnarchy Confident and creative? Able to make links independently in their learning? #ukedchat @SurrealAnarchy Confident and creative? Able to make links independently in their learning? #ukedchat RT @ikeontoast: #ukedchat not being afraid of kids knowing more than us and doing things we don't have the answers to! That inspires innovation @super_sixfive @oldandrewuk group work is another important life skill, just as independent work is. Both very important #ukedchat @super_sixfive @oldandrewuk group work is another important life skill, just as independent work is. Both very important #ukedchat @MathsMummy I agree, we must also be able to model that independent thought process to children. #ukedchat RT @web20education: #edtech20 #pln watch now live #iateflonline http://t.co/5SyYCrw1 #edchat #elearning #ukedchat #cpchat #elemchat #lrnchat #tlchat #cpchat #ukedchat - I'm not sure how much genuine learning actually takes place in our schools A world news newspaper for KS3 and KS4. And it is free for two months. #ukedchat http://t.co/7ejQUtl2 Wd it help if there was less focus on how to teach the 'perfect lesson' - more on lessons plural? #ukedchat @ikeontoast #ukedchat- agreed on this- it takes some time for you and the students to get used to such an environment- Worth the effort! @ikeontoast Yes, and rewarding / crediting these things. Badges? #ukedchat @relativism @materialteacher @futurebehaviour @jackieschneider Agree with this. #ukedchat @raisechildrens I agree completely. :) #ukedchat #ukedchat Sometimes modelling innovation as a teacher is crucial. I learned to skip once. My coaches? Less able, less confident girls. @jackieschneider #ukedchat.hee hhe - I agree Mastery vs Ego motivated climates within PE? We create mastery climates in every other subject but often not in PE. Why not? #ukedchat #ukedchat If you want independent learners, you give them books over the internet. Google isn't research.
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@jamesmichie @oldandrewuk IL is knowing what type of learning will suit you or the situation best. How do we get that? #ukedchat For children to be indpendent, adaptive and creative thinkers teachers need to show engagement. http://t.co/SIgzeowN #ukedchat #edchat @janbaker97 as a PE teacher my pupils would make no progress if I was to adopt the 'this is how you do it' approach! #ukedchat @raisechildrens @oldandrewuk #ukedchat Hmm, conditional talents? RT @peter8green: @mikeatedji agree. Students arrive from primary schools with curiosity and thirst for knowledge #ukedchat @mrpeel love pupils teaching lessons #ukedchat @ICTmagic sometimes the children who go off on a tangent do so because they are trying to learn something they want/need #ukedchat @ICTmagic An open-ended question will allow an independent/creative aproach #ukedchat I'm not an internet luddite by the way, I just get sad when I see work that has been copy and pasted with no real thought. #ukedchat Sir Ken Robinson about creativity #ukedchat http://t.co/jwKBeuo9 @jamesmichie @mikeatedji strong leadership, enthusiasm &vision are also important.Must avoid conflicting messages to staff and ss #ukedchat @captainrobs Yes, it is. And Wikipedia is too. It comes down to bothering 2 teach students research skills, criticality. #ukedchat @Catherine_S88 Aren't skills what you use to process and extend knowledge? WW1 causes need knowledge b4 using concept of causation #ukedchat RT @StephenLev: #ukedchat Sometimes modelling innovation as a teacher is crucial. I learned to skip once. My coaches? Less able, less confident girls. @captainrobs If & when you use group work you need to make sure you know what you're doing: if you can't handle it don't do it #ukedchat @oldandrewuk I disagree. Being an independent learner is not about working on your own; it's knowing how to learn. #ukedchat Maybe if we stopped trying to achieve the impossible in
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oldandrewuk jankauf Starshine_Music Porkpiebaby StephenLev super_sixfive danhaesler chezallen materialteacher genkijen jamesmichie StephenLev Educationchat relativism raisechildrens
a week, we could focus on what is important. #ukedchat #primaryview @jamesmichie #ukedchat So only "independent" of anyone who knows anything about what's being learnt? RT @chrismayoh: Are you an outstanding teacher seeking employment for September? Then take a look here: http://t.co/3xzcKmSb #ukedchat - Please RT. ...and can you be successful and creative at the same time? @ICTmagic #ukedchat RT @MrWaldram: Maybe if we stopped trying to achieve the impossible in a week, we could focus on what is important. #ukedchat #primaryview #ukedchat Something that's hard is convincing children that what they want to learn is as important as what you have to teach. #ukedchat The ability to work creatively and with innovation, takes loads of practice and that practice takes place in classrooms. Why, why, why... Don't we ask the right questions in Education Reform? Latest Blog: http://t.co/BeyjMw20 #edchat #ukedchat #duedchat #ukedchat I became smart ONCE I BECAME a teacher, before that I just knew stuff. Like to give pupils the chance to be 'teachers' too :o) @guildofteaching #ukedchat- agreed and we need to teach it- we can't just expect it- they need to be trained in that as much as content! @StephenLev i love that ! I am going to get some of my less able to teach me something next week #ukedchat @juneisik @oldandrewuk by providing varied learning experiences at all key stages to allow students to find what works 4 them. #ukedchat @MrWaldram: Maybe if we stopped trying to achieve the impossible in a week, we could focus on what is important. #ukedchat #primaryviewyes RT @MrWaldram: Maybe if we stopped trying to achieve the impossible in a week, we could focus on what is important. #ukedchat #primaryview RT @ikeontoast: #ukedchat not being afraid of kids knowing more than us and doing things we don't have the answers to! That inspires innovation @ikeontoast so true. It should be the courage to learn from the children that gives us the strength to keep teaching #ukedchat
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futurebehaviour nohandsup ICTmagic Arsinhy cherylren data_fiend SurrealAnarchy ICTmagic janeconsidine oldandrewuk BenRogersOVA MrPoynter MrG_ICT jamesmichie materialteacher ICTmagic StephenLev MissionExplore
@Educationchat @jackieschneider If children work hard they should be recognised. We don't teach just for reward. #ukedchat @ICTmagic The 'conformists' will always perform better in a system that requires them to 'conform' to certain norms #ukedchat @genkijen What do you do when they wander off? Guide them back on or encourage them to follow their interests? #ukedchat @jamesmichie @oldandrewuk I would help you look up independent in the dictionary James but don't want to spoil your IL experience. #ukedchat @SurrealAnarchy Me too. I'm not sure I like the implication that anything not innovative is bad #ukedchat @jamesmichie #ukedchat Thanks for that, 6th form seem much more reluctant to be independent. Possibly the result of spoon feeding for GCSE @janeconsidine: @mrpeel love pupils teaching lessons #ukedchat SMT watching, student scabs for strike days? RT @Starshine_Music: ...and can you be successful and creative at the same time? @ICTmagic #ukedchat 'A dare to share' trusting classroom #ukedchat @materialteacher #ukedchat Not somebody who learns effectively? RT @janeconsidine: @mrpeel love pupils teaching lessons #ukedchat RT @HPTeachExchange: Women's history month is here! Here's a list of excellent resources. http://t.co/Hwa9E78C #vitalcpd #ukedchat Remember 10% of info you hear; 90% of info you teach. get them teaching.#ukedchat @oldandrewuk Depends how u define urself. I am a learner with them - a peer, part of the group. Not a teacher. #ukedchat @janeconsidine #ukedchat- I like this 'dare to share' idea! I might get a poster of that! RT @nohandsup: @ICTmagic The 'conformists' will always perform better in a system that requires them to 'conform' to certain norms #ukedchat @genkijen Good luck-bet you will be better at whatever it was than I was at skipping! #ukedchat Children need to experience a wide range of situations
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captainrobs ICTmagic BenRogersOVA tmeeky nohandsup materialteacher ICTmagic jamesmichie ICTmagic Starshine_Music mbrayford PeterSpencer88 Educationchat genkijen catmill Educationchat ICTmagic
and have the opportunity to experiment in + reflect on them. #ukedchat You teach children how to study without technology, and then how to use it as a tool, not a means to an end. #ukedchat #deathbypowerpoint @nohandsup Oooo. That's deep. I like it. :) #ukedchat RT @guildofteaching: A great topic for #ukedchat tonight: developing independent learners I've seen pressfrom top (Gov) filter through schl + ultimately make my kids (appetite for lrning) see schl as boring = criminal #ukedchat Volition is key - learners have to 'want' to complete the task/project/assignment. Without volition there is no independence #ukedchat @oldandrewuk #ukedchatsharing ideas and bouncing ideas off others is natural and effective- look at all of us now! RT @MrG_ICT: Remember 10% of info you hear; 90% of info you teach. get them teaching.#ukedchat @data_fiend True, it takes time. If u read my paper, one of the things I found was that they did not feel they had the skills. #ukedchat RT @janeconsidine: 'A dare to share' trusting classroom #ukedchat .@hlmrmo @ictmagic absolutely and the teacher's ability to pose such questions is so important #ukedchat RT @MrG_ICT: Remember 10% of info you hear; 90% of info you teach. get them teaching.#ukedchat @chezallen any advice about ways of children teaching? #ukedchat @oldandrewuk Depends if, by independent, you mean 'completely on their own' rather than selfmotivated,knowing how to learn. #ukedchat @ICTmagic i talk to them about why they did that and see if they need any support to learn - need to get better at it tho #ukedchat @data_fiend @jamesmichie #ukedchat Or that older pupils are involved in higher stakes assessment perhaps? Huge pressure for them to perform. RT @materialteacher: @oldandrewuk #ukedchatsharing ideas and bouncing ideas off others is natural and effective- look at all of us now! Are there natural limits to ones creativity and ingenuity? #ukedchat
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brynll jackieschneider jamesmichie MrWaldram KempsterD hlmrmo genkijen soos24 guildofteaching ICTmagic materialteacher captainrobs captainrobs janeconsidine KarDoh janeconsidine KarDoh
RT @raisechildrens: #ukedchat it's also good to let them experiment in a safe space. One of my "Kre8" girls dons a pair of goggles to do her art pieces! When we genuinely learn it is for OURSELVES not 2 please or get affirmations. schools designed to create kids who want 2 please #ukedchat How I define independent learning: http://t.co/LJlbsgNf #ukedchat @wendyforte stop watching Porterloo Road and join the discussion. #ukedchat @jackieschneider: #ukedchat - I'm not sure how much genuine learning actually takes place in our schools > Not a huge amount I fear @Starshine_Music @ictmagic I'm always more interested in how they come to the answer than the answer they give #ukedchat @StephenLev ha ha i will let you know :-) #ukedchat RT @jamesmichie: @oldandrewuk Depends how u define urself. I am a learner with them - a peer, part of the group. Not a teacher. #ukedchat @victoryoak are running a cpd carousel session by teachers and students on independent learning next wednesday #ukedchat RT @Starshine_Music: .@hlmrmo @ictmagic absolutely and the teacher's ability to pose such questions is so important #ukedchat @ICTmagic #ukedchat- in certain situations, yes, in others, no- we all have our arena for creativity. As an NQT, how would you define an innovative learner anyway? Someone who asks questions? #ukedchat As an NQT, how would you define an innovative learner anyway? Someone who asks questions? #ukedchat RT @jackieschneider: #ukedchat - I think we r micro managed as teachers & denied opportunity to teach independently so we do same to kids! #ukedchat Best way to encourage independent learners is reciprocal learning. Get them to teach you about something that interests them. RT @jackieschneider: #ukedchat - I think we r micro managed as teachers & denied opportunity to teach independently so we do same to kids! #ukedchat Best way to encourage independent learners is reciprocal learning. Get them to teach you about something that interests them.
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@janeconsidine #ukedchat I love pupils teaching lessons too. RT @chrismayoh: 38 people currently looking at teaching vacancies at Bowling Park. You too...? http://t.co/3xzcKmSb #ukedchat #edchat @janeconsidine #ukedchat I love pupils teaching lessons too. RT @chrismayoh: 38 people currently looking at teaching vacancies at Bowling Park. You too...? http://t.co/3xzcKmSb #ukedchat #edchat #ukedchat: "Independent Learner", allowed to choose what to learn, how to research it & what their outcome will be. teacher posing qus etc is of course important, but something more fundamental is wrong and needs addressing i.e. the Ed system #ukedchat @futurebehaviour @jackieschneider Recognised how? A sticker is as good as any way. And children don't learn just for a sticker. #ukedchat @MrG_ICT: Remember 10% of info you hear; 90% of info you teach. get them teaching.#ukedchat > Yes,this itself needs to be taught carefully #ukedchat Encouraging a growth mindset, that it is normal, and a good thing, to have to work hard to achieve. Accept that effort is needed @super_sixfive #ukedchat Yes. @materialteacher @oldandrewuk people shouting into the twitter abyss trying to be heard in #ukedchat madness @SurrealAnarchy Children are naturally innovative learners- needs to be nurtured and encouraged throughout school not discouraged #ukedchat RT @hlmrmo: @Starshine_Music @ictmagic I'm always more interested in how they come to the answer than the answer they give #ukedchat @captainrobs Someone who adapts to the situation to find the information they are after #ukedchat @Arsinhy @oldandrewuk Wht I am saying is that being an effective IL is knowing whn 2 go solo & whn to ask 4 help. #ukedchat @ICTmagic - no. We barely scratch the surface of our kids capabilities #ukedchat @captainrobs #ukedchat someone who is constantly questionning AND evaluating and then actioning
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change RT @captainrobs: #ukedchat If you want independent learners, you give them books over the internet. Google isn't research. @KempsterD @jackieschneider But how would you define geniune learning? Academic? Social? Noise level? #ukedchat RT @ICTEvangelist: #ukedchat how do we help students to be more independent? Give them the opportunity to fail and fail again RT @Starshine_Music: ...and can you be successful and creative at the same time? @ICTmagic #ukedchat > oooh yes I think so! @ICTmagic protyping experimentation and not worrying about getting the right answer key to develop creativity in schools #ukedchat Set up opportunities whereby the learners will fail...builds up resilience @360_People #ukedchat @janeconsidine If teachers aren't independent learners, how can our kids be? The same strategies for both! #ukedchat @cherylren #ukedchat I can't wait to see the person who invents a completely new way of learning RT @ThisIsLiamM: #ukedchat: "Independent Learner", allowed to choose what to learn, how to research it & what their outcome will be. @jackieschneider Really? How sad! #ukedchat RT @jackieschneider: #ukedchat - I think we r micro managed as teachers & denied opportunity to teach independently so we do same to kids! Enjoying this tonight but it's not getting my short writing marked.#ukedchat RT @janeconsidine: 'A dare to share' trusting classroom #ukedchat @captainrobs Interesting question- think it's someone who gets where you wanted them to go but not how you were getting them there #ukedchat Conversation leads to understanding - get children to talk about their understanding http://t.co/Zrkfyc5o #ukedchat #edchat Whatever the subject let them immerse themselves in it at the start. Artefacts, videos, etc. Then ask THEM what THEY want to know #ukedchat @ThisIsLiamM what about children who are easily
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SurrealAnarchy SheliBB KempsterD nohandsup AnGaeilgeoir1 Educationchat super_sixfive judeenright genkijen materialteacher ICTmagic tmeeky ICTmagic nightzookeeper jamesmichie Catherine_S88 ePaceonline
distracted? How do we keep them on track but still independent? #ukedchat @cherylren #ukedchat or do they mean learning to be innovative? @DrHuxTM We often go off on tangents and I allow them to if they are fired up by it. They often dictate the path of their learning #ukedchat RT @brynll: Set up opportunities whereby the learners will fail...builds up resilience @360_People #ukedchat To promote indep we need space for students to explore their own interests rather than having learning directed others #ukedchat Surely an effective rewards policy in a school will encourage independent learning search #ukedchat @oldandrewuk @super_sixfive Imagine a world where children/adults never work in groups together? Dreadful. #ukedchat #ukedchat I don't know when I had the ability to learn independently but I feel sure it was after year 11, and most likely after year 13. #ukedchat @captainrobs in many lessons, innovative learner is the one who's staring out the window RT @BenRogersOVA: @janeconsidine If teachers aren't independent learners, how can our kids be? The same strategies for both! #ukedchat @SurrealAnarchy #ukedchat- is this possible? Totally new?! Go on- do it now! I'd be impressed! @jackieschneider So why are there so many children out there who are told to sit down, be quiet and do as they are told? #ukedchat @SurrealAnarchy Yes, Twitter far from ideal for a sensible chat on UK Ed.... #ukedchat Can being innovative & adaptive be taught? What is the role of an educator in developing this? #ukedchat @tecgrange @ictmagic what is the #ukedchat topic this evening? What my Y12 students felt an IL looked like back in October. There perspective has changed since then: http://t.co/Mky9XVHK #ukedchat @mattbuxton10 True but we must remember importance of teaching children skills they need to gain knowledge as independent learners #ukedchat RT @materialteacher: @janeconsidine #ukedchat- I like this 'dare to share' idea! I might get a poster of that! >
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great idea. #ukedchat If you want independent learning to be true, then kids need to be asking the questions. My model: http://t.co/XFQnnw83 @KarDoh Don't you find that reciprocal learners only take in a fraction of what they are taught? #ukedchat #ukedchat love using these learning strategies in my Sunday school group. @judeenright #ukedchat- agreed- so how can we harness their innovation and creativity? RT @jamesmichie: How I define independent learning: http://t.co/LJlbsgNf #ukedchat Agreed> RT @ThisIsLiamM: #ukedchat: "Independent Learner", allowed to choose what to learn, how to research it & what their outcome will be. New Statesman - The education debate bullies in the playground http://t.co/12qPKu2K #ukedchat RT @web20education: #edtech20 #pln watch now live #iateflonline http://t.co/5SyYCrw1 #edchat #elearning #ukedchat #cpchat #elemchat #lrnchat #tlchat #cpchat @relativism @materialteacher @futurebehaviour @jackieschneider I hate 3 stars and a wish. Only give star if due one. #ukedchat RT @data_fiend: #ukedchat Encouraging a growth mindset, that it is normal, and a good thing, to have to work hard to achieve. Accept that effort is needed RT @ThisIsLiamM: #ukedchat: "Independent Learner", allowed to choose what to learn, how to research it & what their outcome will be. @relativism @educationchat @materialteacher @jackieschneider Not suggesting we ban rewards but let's not rely on them - it's lazy. #ukedchat Encourage children's curiosity always - I love the craziest, sparkiest questions that you'd never think of but are truly unique #ukedchat @SurrealAnarchy #ukedchat I was talking about learning, not hobbies. #ukedchat tricky tho when exam marking penalises truly independent response in favour of defined mark schemes New GCSE 'Project Qualifications' - true independent learning with no 'prescribed' content http://t.co/cPrGrNau #ukedchat @BenRogersOVA @jamesmichie google groups is a
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EmathsUK cherylren markslater121 mikeatedji SurrealAnarchy Starshine_Music syded06 ICTmagic ePaceonline chezallen mattbritland materialteacher jamesmichie Starshine_Music brynll raisechildrens ePaceonline
great forum.Use it for digital leader stuff http://t.co/qPnRZsKZ #ukedchat #ukedchat Independent learning can take huge leap forward soon once Adaptive Learning is working fully. I reckon 2015: http://t.co/XdRCK4GO Anybody believe in the power of a really inspiring, thought provoking lecture to promote learning? Thinking more HE, I guess #ukedchat RT @ICTmagic: Can being innovative & adaptive be taught? What is the role of an educator in developing this? #ukedchat RT @ICTmagic: Can being innovative & adaptive be taught? What is the role of an educator in developing this? #ukedchat @Sarahloooo how do you define innovative? #ukedchat ...I meant successful as an independent learner in a system based on as much conformity as ours is. Dyou think so? @ePaceonline #ukedchat RT @ICTmagic: Can being innovative & adaptive be taught? - I believe this will be our primary role in the future #ukedchat @PeterSpencer88 @ThisIsLiamM Perhaps the task is not suitable for them. Adapt the task, not the child. #ukedchat @ICTmagic #ukedchat I really hope not. Teach speed reading by getting pupils to follow #ukedchat on Twitterfall RT @MrG_ICT: Remember 10% of info you hear; 90% of info you teach. get them teaching.#ukedchat @futurebehaviour: @relativism @educationchat @materialteacher @jackieschneider let the students decide when a reward is deserved? #ukedchat @ICTmagic provide opportunities, make learning challenging & 'relevant to them' & allow them to fail followed by reflection. #ukedchat RT @BenRogersOVA: @janeconsidine If teachers aren't independent learners, how can our kids be? The same strategies for both! #ukedchat Go follow and visit @dhulston @CapeUK @chrismayoh @Culture_Fusion @Evolve_Impact @360_People for ideas...and answers to tonight #ukedchat @ICTmagic #ukedchat explain what the words mean and how the tools can be used. Then stand well back! @Starshine_Music #ukedchat - yes
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guildofteaching jamesmichie SurrealAnarchy KarDoh KempsterD ThisIsLiamM ICTmagic tmeeky itsmerowey jackieschneider Arsinhy captainrobs SurrealAnarchy mikeatedji tecgrange jackieschneider ICTmagic relativism syded06
4 groups of students have volunteered to lead cpd sessions on independent learning next week for teachers@victoryoak #ukedchat RT @SheliBB: @BenRogersOVA @jamesmichie google groups is a great forum.Use it for digital leader stuff http://t.co/qPnRZsKZ #ukedchat @materialteacher #ukedchat exactly my point, innovative learner is a nonsense is it not? @Arsinhy Really depends on what/how/why/when they are taught. And by whom. IMHO #ukedchat #ukedchat We're all independent learners just we are very rarely given opp at school to show that we are. @ICTmagic Write that one down and include it in a book one day! :-) #ukedchat @chezallen So educators are wasting their time to try? How can we do things that will help? #ukedchat @jamesmichie This means teachers need to let go a bit... but they daren't (often) cos of top down pressures #ukedchat Blog post Cre8agame student empowerment, learners teaching learners about Kodu http://t.co/cGugYaDe #pilgf #msftpil #kodu #ukedchat #edchat @ICTmagic - because we want compliant kids who know there place. It's much harder treating kids as individuals! #ukedchat @KarDoh #mathsjoke falls on stony ground #ukedchat @materialteacher You can do that by teaching them how to research and read in the first place. #ukedchat @oldandrewuk: @SurrealAnarchy #ukedchat I was talking about learning, not hobbies. one doesn't learn piano then? #ukedchat If the key to learning is beginning with questions then secondary schools don't allow enough pupil driven Qs - primary schools? @ICTmagic I think it us more about letting the innate creativity flourish with the right environment & tools etc #ukedchat @AndrewManson1 - true dat! #ukedchat @syded06 I agree completely. Guiding learning, not controlling learning. #ukedchat @SheliBB @Educationchat @materialteacher @futurebehaviour @jackieschneider & sometimes no stars. (or am I just cruel?) #ukedchat Can't help but think our current assessment strategies
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undermine the fantastic suggestions on #ukedchat #ukedchat @materialteacher plan the curriculum to include enrichment days/sessions, small group discussion lessons, listen to them. Be bold. @captainrobs #ukedchat seems a bit generalised... what do you mean? @KempsterD Not in every school. Some schools are great at independent learning... #ukedchat @SheliBB @BenRogersOVA I use Google Docs to support learning - my students are co-creating a revision guide: https://t.co/5gZALZDm #ukedchat @oldandrewuk: @SurrealAnarchy #ukedchat I was talking about learning, not hobbies. one doesn't learn to conduct an orchestra? @SheliBB @jamesmichie thanks, it's been on to do list. Will investigate google groups over easter. Any recommendations? #ukedchat @ICTmagic we need to teach creative thinking skills from an early age. They will then collaborate more effectively #ukedchat @syded06 #ukedchat totally agree @MikeCraven5 #ukedchat Balance between learning and not learning? RT @syded06: Can't help but think our current assessment strategies undermine the fantastic suggestions on #ukedchat I let the ch choose their level of Q sometimes they can pick depending on their confidence/understanding #ukedchat http://t.co/BlMDLT0C @jackieschneider: Let's BAN the use of low/middle/ high ability to label kids. HUGELY damaging #ukedchat >> Amen to that @genkijen @super_sixfive I used lots of strategies as well as lessons - no one told me to - i decided what i needed to do #ukedchat @SheliBB @BenRogersOVA Develops independent thought because they all contribute but they disagree/argue, develop important skills. #ukedchat @mbrayford Does that mean that there is no place for non-innovative educators in the profession? #ukedchat teachers too paranoid about being judged, measured, needing to justify everything (with evidence) .. means they hold back #ukedchat Independence in learning has 2b echoed in all aspects
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of school.We can't expect children to 'turn on' independence at our request #ukedchat @mikeatedji Maybe due to tightness of curriculum. If children want to go off at a tangent can the secondary curriculum allow this? #ukedchat @captainrobs #ukedchat Or teach them how to use the internet properly - I learn so much each day from it. But they need the critical skills RT @judeenright: #ukedchat @materialteacher plan the curriculum to include enrichment days/sessions, small group discussion lessons, listen to them. Be bold. @cherylren I have seen this work with younger children. Lectures don't have to be 'transmissionist' #ukedchat @mikeatedji #ukedchat what a good idea, but focus is on teaching what is in front of us, not teaching to the label of "bottom set" RT @mikeatedji: @jackieschneider: Let's BAN the use of low/middle/ high ability to label kids. HUGELY damaging #ukedchat >> Amen to that @ICTmagic yes and allowing content to be discovered outside the classroom supports guiding innovation within it #ukedchat @chezallen That is a task that no human can perform! #ukedchat @oldandrewuk: @SurrealAnarchy #ukedchat I was talking about learning, not hobbies. one doesn't learn history as a dramaturg? #ukedchat Pearson are making big steps in creating a full independent learning course http://t.co/anKO8Xi8 RT @jpgreenwood: 'How to harness the learning power of a good display' from @guardian: http://t.co/rXT5MRhT #ukedchat #edchat What about learning those skills that children do not see the benefit? Can children learn these independently? #ukedchat #ukedchat Not just beginning with questions, but thinking carefully about the types of questions we use. @materialteacher @futurebehaviour @relativism @jackieschneider Jeez - in Y2 they'd demand stickers after every piece of work. #ukedchat @genkijen #ukedchat is this the same chat? #ukedchat Am I allowed to ask questions? Or is that @ICTmagic's job? What tools do you use to support / encourage IL in your classroom?
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@SurrealAnarchy Experimenting, independent choices, fearless in searching for an answer/seeking new information- not constrained #ukedchat #ukedchat teachers ate important in the creative process as they create the climate in the class, and are responsible for the environment @captainrobs #ukedchat- I don't think so. We question things we're inspired by or interested by- hopefully all our lessons then! Teach children to make commitments, overcome fear, deal transparently, initiate, desire lifelong learning and express themselves. #ukedchat @ICTmagic thanks. Children need to be in a classroom that promotes enquiry based learning #ukedchat @mrpeel I mean that I'm surprised that people are talking as though no one has ever questioned what they have learnt before. #ukedchat independent Q choice - see pic #ukedchat http://t.co/a4fogX0o @ICTmagic Watch a vid with the sound off for a start. Annoys them for a minute but then, oh the concentration! #ukedchat @jamesmichie @SheliBB Sounds great. I've seen google docs in action. V impressed #ukedchat @cherylren If I am not inspired in a lesson I teach. I will not teach it that way. #ukedchat I have a 'Question of the Week' for homework from a hat of child led questions. They present their learning however they wish. #ukedchat @MrWaldram advice pls what do you do if they pick something too hard for their level but copy from others ? #ukedchat #ukedchat hear hear @mikeatedji @jackieschneider "low ability" are just students who haven't spent enough time practising those skills. @mikeatedji True, students trained to become great at answers but very poor at asking questions. #ukedchat got to say Andrew, that surely depends on the teacher #ukedchat @oldandrewuk @ThisIsLiamM Ask away... #ukedchat @ICTmagic @mbrayford - of course - schools will always need Heads & deputies! JOKE people JOKE!!! #ukedchat @SurrealAnarchy I think they do - with employability &
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entrepreneurialism as the outcome. #ukedchat @super_sixfive My Reception class learn independently every day! #ukedchat @genkijen itchy knee san shee? #ukedchat @mikeatedji Perhaps teachers/schools are afraid of what they'll ask?! #ukedchat @super_sixfive #ukedchat Co-operating with groups of conscripted teenagers is not actually a life skill. @cherylren: #ukedchat a place for the lecture in any setting. Everyone recognises and respects an expert holding forth. @janbaker97 @KempsterD Always needs direction. Skills need teaching then allow time to apply skills in context decided by pupils. #ukedchat @EmSnaps Sounds super. I do something similar. #ukedchat RT @jamesmichie: @mikeatedji Perhaps teachers/schools are afraid of what they'll ask?! #ukedchat - definitely RT @BenRogersOVA: @janeconsidine If teachers aren't independent learners, how can our kids be? The same strategies for both! #ukedchat #ukedchat Will there be a point in the very near future when teachers are no longer needed? Do we need schools? Many kids don't have either @Sarahloooo and why is all that innovative? #ukedchat @genkijen they are generally so focused on their qs. I try to get round too #ukedchat #ukedchat: Remember we're not only teaching subject knowledge, we're teaching life skills too. Where do they fit into everyday learning? #ukedchat still think you have got to give children some control over what they want to learn. If they have ownership and want to, they will RT @Sarahloooo: @super_sixfive My Reception class learn independently every day! #ukedchat #ukedchat think this is a fundamental difficulty with the system Finding time to do the set up is proving tricky but adoptions will be set up as soon as I can! Building up suspense ;) #blogadopt #ukedchat @Educationchat #ukedchat I was Primary teacher but my own kids report extreme rigidity of cuuriculum allows for little pupil driven learning
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@Educationchat @mikeatedji If you use negative reciprocal radius learning you are perfectly positioned to go off at a tangent #ukedchat @Sarahloooo @super_sixfive - you wait - big school will soon knock that out of them! #ukedchat @MBenDixon ...yes, as part of the curriculum, not the whole darn thing : ) #ukedchat @EmathsUK my last tweet answers your question #ukedchat RT @ThisIsLiamM: #ukedchat: Remember we're not only teaching subject knowledge, we're teaching life skills too. Where do they fit into everyday learning? @EmathsUK That is where we learn to work/deal with others. Always a place for physical social learning environments. #ukedchat @data_fiend That's what I mean, but I'm concerned that people rely on ICT because of the bells and whistles, despite of content. #ukedchat @chezallen That I nice idea. Also good to look like you left the speaker cable out on purpose. :) #ukedchat @SurrealAnarchy Why is it not?! #ukedchat @janbaker97 @educationchat @kempsterd doesn't depend on ability, if the task is pitched correctly all can achieve independently #ukedchat My observations - as children get older, self-awareness increases, risk-taking decreases and reliance on teacher increases #ukedchat @raisechildrens agreed, allowing children to surpass us is the aim :) #ukedchat @Sarahloooo: @super_sixfive My Reception class learn independently every day! #ukedchat that's why I wish I was a reception teacher @EmathsUK Welcome to the 'Sage on the Stage v Guide at the Side' debate :o) #ukedchat And yet for the next 2 months we will frantically be making it as easy as possible for out students to get the best grade? #ukedchat RT @ThisIsLiamM: #ukedchat: Remember we're not only teaching subject knowledge, we're teaching life skills too. Where do they fit into everyday learning? @Sarahloooo @super_sixfive - seriously though EY gives kids way more independence then they ever have again #ukedchat @InsipidMonk #ukedchat But why does that have to be
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schools? Thousands of children around the world learn in different settings @jamesmichie Yes! What a shame if that's the case! #ukedchat MAybe thats the rallying callBan the fear @jamesmichie Yes! What a shame if that's the case! #ukedchat MAybe thats the rallying callBan the fear @EmathsUK I hope not. What would be there in the place of schools? #ukedchat #ukedchat @ThisIsLiamM @ictmagic start every lesson with a big question-students have to answer it.DON'T have answer in yr head or answer it @genkijen try it, they do pitch themselves at the right level. They want to aim high but want security 1st #ukedchat Sure there's room somewhere for a resource pack completely aimed at the making of mistakes. Better to try and fail... @bellaale #ukedchat @cherylren #ukedchat can we stop educating people in order to get jobs? There are far more important things to educate for Google Docs + AfL, developing learner autonomy through 1-2-1 assessment, teach individuals not whole class. http://t.co/nslUyS3m #ukedchat @Catherine_S88 Yes but they develop the skills by using the stuff they know about something; build on it so they figure out more #ukedchat RT @jamesmichie: @mikeatedji True, students trained to become great at answers but very poor at asking questions. #ukedchat @PeterSpencer88 #ukedchat There are numerous alternative settings RT @jackieschneider: @Sarahloooo @super_sixfive seriously though EY gives kids way more independence then they ever have again #ukedchat RT @mikeatedji: @jamesmichie Yes! What a shame if that's the case! #ukedchat MAybe thats the rallying callBan the fear @nohandsup I guess shorter is better for younger students but just Listening and being enthralled is traditional but *good* #ukedchat Lots of relevance for tonight's topic in this tweet from @nancyduarte: Innovation's secret sauce http://t.co/tJTFvg9w #ukedchat RT @captainrobs: #ukedchat If you want independent
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learners, you give them books over the internet. Google isn't research. @ThisIsLiamM they should be being taught everyday! #ukedchat How have/could you adapt the learning environment (if it was a single space) to encourage innovation? #ukedchat Right, I am definitely independently marking my short writing. Thanks. #Ukedchat @EmathsUK Schools by other names. Similar processes. #ukedchat @jackieschneider Terrible places! #ukedchat #ukedchat Schools and teachers used to be the holder of information, but now information is everywhere, so do we need them? RT @cherylren: "Pose, pause, pounce, bounce" gets them thinking for themselves http://t.co/UrnCK1kM #ukedchat RT @jackieschneider: Let's BAN the use of low/middle/ high ability to label kids. HUGELY damaging #ukedchat @SurrealAnarchy @cherylren A good job should be the benefit of a good education, not a reason for being educated #ukedchat @nohandsup I agree: teenagers really don't want to look silly. We have to work hard to create safer classrooms #ukedchat @ikeontoast @raisechildrens #ukedchat totally agree, I tell them that, you teach me - I don't know it all @SurrealAnarchy @cherylren what do you mean? #ukedchat @super_sixfive @sarahloooo when do students learn to be dependent on their teacher? #ukedchat @Sarahloooo depends on your definition of innovative, ahead of the times? Or something never done before #ukedchat RT @judeenright: #ukedchat @ThisIsLiamM @ictmagic start every lesson with a big question-students have to answer it.DON'T have answer in yr head or answer it @judeenright Can that work in all subjects/lessons? What are the limits, if any? #ukedchat You can not force anyone to learn. We can force kids into uniform & compel them to attend school & chase exams - not education #ukedchat @InsipidMonk #ukedchat That's not the case - what
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about the child in the Oz Outback - they nailed distance, independent learning years ago RT @jackieschneider: @Sarahloooo @super_sixfive Educationchat seriously though EY gives kids way more independence then they ever have again #ukedchat @MrWaldram i had one this week who chose genkijen something way too tricky- she struggles with nos to 20, didn't want to knock confidence #ukedchat @ThisIsLiamM #ukedchat you're thinking of teaching as Hub_SpokeHarlow just the time spent at school...what about the rest of the day?? RT @SurrealAnarchy: @cherylren #ukedchat can we ICTmagic stop educating people in order to get jobs? There are far more important things to educate for @danaxson Agreed. And I've learnt masses of stuff on cherylren the back of a good lecture at Uni. #ukedchat #ukedchat It is worthwhile allowing pupils the time to mikeatedji ask the Qs they want toit requires practice..they learn some Qs are limiting @Sarahloooo if that's your view of innovative then most SurrealAnarchy kids can't be innovative #ukedchat RT @judeenright: #ukedchat @ThisIsLiamM @ictmagic nightzookeeper start every lesson with a big question-students have to answer it.DON'T have answer in yr head or answer it InsipidMonk @EmathsUK Did they? #ukedchat @ICTmagic crucial to involve parents in the learning of tecgrange life skills this cannot just be confined to the schools #ukedchat @ICTmagic @thisisliamm Agree about teaching life reflectivemaths skills. Where does that fit into observations? #ukedchat @ICTmagic Favour the lesson recorded and students syded06 watch at own pace so students can use lesson time as real contact time #ukedchat @chezallen @EmathsUK False dichotomy; good mattbuxton10 teaching will incorporate both #ukedchat Also much teach kids to be self-reflexive not just selfjamesmichie reflective. #ukedchat #ukedchat worried now, teaching a session to mrpeel GTP/PGCE tomorrow... will I be innovative? RT @BenRogersOVA: @nohandsup I agree: teenagers emmaannhardy really don't want to look silly. We have to work hard to create safer classrooms #ukedchat @nightzookeeper Depends when they meet the wrong Sarahloooo teacher! #ukedchat
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@soos24 @ikeontoast @raisechildrens If they ask me if they have the right answer, I ask them if they have the right answer #ukedchat @davidhunter #ukedchat Well, around 1850 I'd say it no longer is not serving needs of our kids futures (except in some brave schools) RT @Hub_SpokeHarlow: @ThisIsLiamM #ukedchat you're thinking of teaching as just the time spent at school...what about the rest of the day?? #ukedchat other Qs, pupils learn after practising asking, lead to more juicy thinkingP4C is great for this @Arsinhy @mikeatedji ......er......yes. Definitely. Agree. Well said. *cough* Awkward pause.... Was that the door bell? #ukedchat @Starshine_Music #ukedchat Think it can be a challenge in constrictive system but have to be 'creative about being creative'. @genkijen think I'd let her then pick it up the next session. They can be confident with mistakes if we guide then through it #ukedchat @SurrealAnarchy @cherylren #ukedchat So says an intrinsically motivated person. Others see this as main purpose of school, even if we don't. @EmathsUK go on.... #ukedchat @Carlsberg40 which is such a shame as they are not the only measures we should be judged by #ukedchat Part of problem is tht some teachers r not gr8 at selfreflection, evaluation, assessment themselves. Hard to foster in learners. #ukedchat For the learner, the Curric needs to be all about the three Rs ... Relevance, Relevance, Relevance #ukedchat @Hub_SpokeHarlow #ukedchat Loads of learning goes on outside the classroom. Only in the classroom 5/24 hours in a day. @cherylren Yeah agreed, It is able to inspire, clarify and dispel it would be a shame if it was ever lost. #ukedchat #ukedchat Thinks the key to independent learners lies with parents as much as teachers... @EmathsUK If students were learning sponges then you wouldn't need teachers. Unfortunately many kids are as absorbent as bricks. #ukedchat @super_sixfive I've taught all Primary age groups36 of 46
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Reception is my favourite! #ukedchat @captainrobs If jobs are the most important outcome of education then schools have truly failed #ukedchat @mattbuxton10 As the teacher, give children skills rather than knowledge 2 allow them 2 become more independent in their learning #ukedchat @jamesmichie #ukedchat agree, hence need for reflective dialogue in school anyone else do this? RT @SOLUS_ED: #ukedchat Thinks the key to independent learners lies with parents as much as teachers... @jackieschneider How can we ensure all pupils want to learn? Is it possible in the vast majority of cases? What switches them off? #ukedchat #ukedchat think we have true independent learning when we are engrossed in a subject and interested in it. @mikeatedji As a Primary Dep Head I know in our school all classes have time/reason/ability to allow for pupil led learning. #ukedchat @Arsinhy #ukedchat I don't believe that's true, they may become like that, but they don't start like that maybe what we're doing to them? RT @TommyTeachPE: #ukedchat teachers ate important in the creative process as they create the climate in the class, and are responsible for the environment @chezallen I like the headphone idea. Just like a quiz show. #ukedchat @SOLUS_ED #ukedchat Exactly which is why the obsession with ratcheting up standards is misconceived in my view! @ICTmagic Yes. So if you feel inspired about a topic, you might lecture? #ukedchat @Educationchat @mikeatedji If you had an A Level in maths you would be clutching your sides at this point. #ukedchat @ePaceonline Agree - we are motivated to find out more about it #ukedchat @MrWaldram thanks will try that and get her to talk to me about why she thought she could do it and how it felt :-) #ukedchat RT @reflectivemaths: @ICTmagic @thisisliamm Agree about teaching life skills. Where does that fit into observations? #ukedchat
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RT @ePaceonline: #ukedchat think we have true independent learning when we are engrossed in a subject and interested in it. @jamesmichie reflective teachers are key. Every BenRogersOVA student and every class is different. Reflective teachers see this as a challenge. #ukedchat #ukedchat @ICTmagic limits? Hmmm. Y13s suggested judeenright it. They HATE that every lesson starts with a learning objective,want interesting Q instead How can we widen the experience of pupils to discover ICTmagic their talents and skills? #ukedchat @SurrealAnarchy It's innovative for them- they haven't Sarahloooo done it before! #ukedchat RT @ThisIsLiamM: @Hub_SpokeHarlow #ukedchat Hub_SpokeHarlow Loads of learning goes on outside the classroom. Only in the classroom 5/24 hours in a day. ePaceonline @EmSnaps #ukedchat; what a great idea. Can an 'if it moves test it' education system actually Starshine_Music produce divergent independent learning in disaffected pupils? #ukedchat #ukedchat Could it be that teaching kids how to EmathsUK efficiently find reliable answers on Google is now more important than teaching algebra? @syded06 @Carlsberg40 See your point. Making DrHuxTM something a measure changes the nature of the measure - not always in positive way. #ukedchat @SheliBB @BenRogersOVA We try & some of us do a jamesmichie gd job. Teacher no diff 2 kids though, often care more abt grade than feedback. #ukedchat Avoid saying 'If you get stuck put your hand up and I thelazyteacher will come and help you' as you are robbing them of the chance to learn! #ukedchat Avoid saying 'If you get stuck put your hand up and I thelazyteacher will come and help you' as you are robbing them of the chance to learn! #ukedchat @SurrealAnarchy Oh, yes. Believe in the value of the cherylren pure and the abstract to allow us to 'think the not-yetthought' #ukedchat @jamesmichie so true I did a great college course raisechildrens which promoted continual self reflection- so important! #ukedchat RT @hlmrmo: @SurrealAnarchy @cherylren A good cherylren job should be the benefit of a good education, not a reason for being educated #ukedchat emmaannhardy
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materialteacher genkijen syded06 SOLUS_ED jamesmichie mikeatedji ICTmagic jackieschneider jamesmichie BenRogersOVA jackieschneider BenRogersOVA ICTmagic Starshine_Music materialteacher tmeeky mattbuxton10
@ICTmagic #ukedchat Extra-curricular activities and just getting to know them! @ePaceonline definitely when we have' flow' and time flies by ! #ukedchat @Carlsberg40 who also have ways to solve problems and an ability to adapt to their situation #ukedchat #ukedchat Malcom Gladwell cites Termin longtudinal study - followed kids with IQ of 140+ some lived up to expectations as adults... @BenRogersOVA Exactly, a challenge NOT a problem. Embrace these things positively & learn with ur students. #ukedchat @Arsinhy @Educationchat #ukedchat and what's it mean to someone with a middling O level? RT @materialteacher: @ICTmagic #ukedchat Extracurricular activities and just getting to know them! @ICTmagic - kids start their "education" full of curiosity, desperate to learn. Our fetish for assessment & control DESTROYS it. #ukedchat My students no I am fallible. They know that I am learning too. They feel empowered by this because the playing field is levelled. #ukedchat @jamesmichie @SheliBB Teachers do make a real difference, even if they can't always tell! Hattie says so. #ukedchat @ICTmagic - we need to return to EY principles & start from play based learning #ukedchat RT @jamesmichie: @BenRogersOVA Exactly, a challenge NOT a problem. Embrace these things positively & learn with ur students. #ukedchat Should we be encouraging out pupils to focus on areas of interest or aim or a board, rounded educations? Mutually exclusive? #ukedchat too true @ePaceonline: #ukedchat Think it can be a challenge in constrictive system but have to be 'creative about being creative'. @raisechildrens @jamesmichie #ukedchat- equally important for students to reflection too- they keep a learning log Here are some QR Code enabled resources to help encourage independence in KS2 learners http://t.co/bEzlHC78 #ukedchat @Catherine_S88 Compare/Contrast is a skill; don't they need some substantive knowledge about something 2
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compare 2 something else? #ukedchat @thelazyteacher Absolutely. In IT I always say 'if you chezallen can ask the right question the answer is on the screen' #ukedchat Looking at out society. should we be teaching the InsipidMonk importance of hard work, responsibility and not being materialistic? #ukedchat @ThisIsLiamM #ukedchat so inspire them to Hub_SpokeHarlow experiment and explore instead of playing Xbox, challenge their boundaries "@cherylren: "Pose, pause, pounce, bounce" gets them Sarah_Rua thinking for themselves http://t.co/1cWkbKMJ #ukedchat" #pde11 @ikeontoast @raisechildrens That's really easy with SheliBB ICT. I often tell teachers to introduce something,then let children take over #ukedchat #ukedchat flipping the classroom would be the best bucharesttutor leverage I can think of engaging the Ss in the proper and interactive manner @Sarahloooo #ukedchat because no one has ever SurrealAnarchy done anything before then we are all always innovative therefore original premise is nonsense @DrHuxTM @Carlsberg40 we are hung up on league syded06 tables and results which perhaps has been to the detriment of learning? #ukedchat Really enjoying #ukedchat tonight. Topic: Independent jamesmichie Learning. 7 mins left. @ePaceonline I agree #ukedchat they need choice Kezmerrelda over what they want to learn. They ask the questions RT @jackieschneider: @ICTmagic - we need to return ICTmagic to EY principles & start from play based learning #ukedchat #ukedchat It seems clear that a lot of what we call indep mikeatedji learing needs to be explicitly taught, practiced, modelled, repeated @ICTmagic - listen to them! Our schools are RUBBISH jackieschneider at listening - not cos we r mean but too busy self important #ukedchat SurrealAnarchy @captainrobs We educate for leisure #ukedchat @jackieschneider I completely agree. Unfortunately the ICTmagic EYs is going the other way. #ukedchat @SheliBB @ikeontoast @raisechildrens yes i show genkijen them how to open the program - maybe one thing they can do, then let them explore #ukedchat
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MrAColley kvnmcl cherylren materialteacher jamesmichie emmaannhardy judeenright MrAColley SheliBB hlmrmo mrpeel ukedchat syded06 materialteacher jamesmichie
@thelazyteacher If they put their hand up for me, they have to be able to explain what strategies they've already tried. #ukedchat @jackieschneider: @ICTmagic - we need to return to EY principles & start from play based learning #ukedchat Indeed @catmill Yes but mightn't it be an issue of social justice that all children are able to lift their eyes from the pragmatic? #ukedchat RT @mikeatedji: #ukedchat It seems clear that a lot of what we call indep learing needs to be explicitly taught, practiced, modelled, repeated @materialteacher @raisechildrens Yes or blog. Writing it down is so important. Reflect in the moment & also look back again later. #ukedchat RT @kvnmcl: @jackieschneider: @ICTmagic - we need to return to EY principles & start from play based learning #ukedchat Indeed RT @mikeatedji: #ukedchat It seems clear that a lot of what we call indep learing needs to be explicitly taught, practiced, modelled, repeated RT @mikeatedji: #ukedchat It seems clear that a lot of what we call indep learing needs to be explicitly taught, practiced, modelled, repeated @Kezmerrelda @ePaceonline #mantleoftheexpert! Let the children make decisions #ukedchat http://t.co/xYy4aec6 @genkijen @SheliBB @ikeontoast @raisechildrens I used @Muvizu3D and asked them to find one thing I hadn't shown them #ukedchat @jamesmichie #ukedchat stated all GTPs blogging at school - blog myself but more for resources than reflection - must do better. Last 5 minutes of #ukedchat. What are your final thoughts? This chat will be archived at http://t.co/8FUKee6R soon after the chat. @mikeatedji Should teachers reduce planning and react to situations to encourage IL for different students? #ukedchat @jamesmichie @raisechildrens #ukedchat Blog is a great plan- I know a group I'm going to start doing that with! @PatParslow Its awesome frm the first time I took this approach with a class, it was a success. I will never go
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Arsinhy readingbridges Starshine_Music ICTmagic MrAColley jamesmichie mrpeel KempsterD ukedchat materialteacher Sarahloooo mr_chadwick soos24 catmill infernaldepart nohandsup jamesmichie
back. #ukedchat @mikeatedji @Educationchat Actually your middling O Level is approx the same value as an A Level now. Shame knowledge atrophies. #ukedchat What kids think of labels like "learning disabilities" http://t.co/1fWQY646 #ukedchat #spedchat @Educationchat @arsinhy @mikeatedji laugh of the night, that one! #ukedchat @thelazyteacher Love it. Discovering something out for one's self, especially if hard-won, will be valued and remembered. #ukedchat It takes a lot of skill to create a framework in which ind learning can take place! It's no just 'leaving em to it' #ukedchat RT @kvnmcl: @jackieschneider: @ICTmagic - we need to return to EY principles & start from play based learning #ukedchat Indeed #ukedchat curic is vital. IB english set texts not examined per se but as souce material to discuss craft. I've been learning independently and collaboratively since I was born. #ukedchat Why do we discourage it in schools? Join @janwebb21 for next week's #ukedchat. The poll is live at http://t.co/Ly3Tl7kr @janbaker97 @thelazyteacher C3B4ME- Try 3 strategies before you come to me! #ukedchat @SurrealAnarchy So people are always doing new things? Not sure that's true! #ukedchat We not doing 'adaptive' or 'innovative' learners tonight then? Guess no one else knows what they mean?! #ukedchat @SheliBB @ikeontoast #ukedchat totally agree, there is never just one way to do something, they will always surprise us with new ways @cherylren I agree but think we need to recognise where the pressure is coming from and not blame teachers *all* of the time. #ukedchat RT @ukedchat: Join @janwebb21 for next week's #ukedchat. The poll is live at http://t.co/Ly3Tl7kr We want indepen't learn's but many sch's remove need for students to be indepen't through excessive support 'No pen? Have mine' #ukedchat Im with @kvnmcl - we need to encourage play & exploration at all key stages. Its not just 4 primary.
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mbrayford cherylren chezallen mikeatedji mbrayford jamesmichie guildofteaching lupesalasalva ICTmagic PatParslow materialteacher ICTEvangelist Arsinhy SurrealAnarchy mikeatedji SheliBB
#ukedchat RT @mikeatedji: #ukedchat It seems clear that a lot of what we call indep learing needs to be (cont) http://t.co/wm5smFd4 RT @alisoniredale: @cherylren: #ukedchat a place for the lecture in any setting. Everyone recognises and respects an expert holding forth. @mattbuxton10 How quickly I forget! I agree: bit of both and more besides, I guess. #ukedchat @syded06 #ukedchat good Q! Time is so precious but it's a false economy not to - What do you reckon? RT @kvnmcl: @jackieschneider: @ICTmagic - we need to return to EY principles & start from play based learning #ukedchat Indeed RT @ukedchat: Join @janwebb21 for next week's #ukedchat. The poll is live at http://t.co/Ly3Tl7kr RT @jamesmichie: @BenRogersOVA Exactly, a challenge NOT a problem. Embrace these things positively & learn with ur students. #ukedchat RT @bellaale: RT @genkijen #ukedchat we ask it of pupils but are we independent, adaptive & innovative? Do we model these ? > not all of us, sadly... :( @jackieschneider Listening is the beginning of understanding. If you don't listen to your class, how can you understand them? #ukedchat @jamesmichie It also reduces the pressure on you as a teacher, allowing you to be more natural, responsive and open #ukedchat @mr_chadwick #ukedchat- adaptive yes, it goes handin-hand with independence and autonomy. Innovative? No! RT @ukedchat: Join @janwebb21 for next week's #ukedchat. The poll is live at http://t.co/Ly3Tl7kr @Educationchat @mikeatedji A Deputy with an AS Level? Bet you still have your own teeth and hair too? #ukedchat @Sarahloooo #ukedchat are you breaking the laws of physics? #groundhogday RT @jamesmichie: Im with @kvnmcl - we need to encourage play & exploration at all key stages. Its not just 4 primary. #ukedchat @hlmrmo @genkijen @ikeontoast @raisechildrens @Muvizu3D peer tutoring is often a more effective way of teaching #ukedchat
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genkijen jamesmichie ePaceonline ikeontoast chezallen hlmrmo SurrealAnarchy jamesmichie Catherine_S88 Educationchat syded06 KiDu89 KempsterD jackieschneider genkijen BenRogersOVA emmaannhardy Kezmerrelda
@ukedchat #ukedchat i am going to look for more ways to get the children to teach each other and me #ukedchat @mr_chadwick I dont see them as separate to IL. They are part of what an IL is. #ukedchat RT @tmeeky: For the learner, the Curric needs to be all about the three Rs ... Relevance, Relevance, Relevance #ukedchat > love it. @soos24 @raisechildrens children aim to beat me! Bring it on :) #ukedchat #ukedchat Guess we are all in favour of IL then. P'raps spread good ideas... @genkijen @SheliBB @ikeontoast @raisechildrens @Muvizu3D Flowol is good for this as well I've found #ukedchat @catmill The true innovation in education would be to engender the love of the pursuit of wisdom #ukedchat @PatParslow absolutely, an open teacher creates an open learning environment. #ukedchat #ukedchat interesting discussion tonight, shame twitter kept crashing or I could have joined in with more of the discussion @Arsinhy @mikeatedji I do. And a few of my marbles. #ukedchat @mikeatedji I believe the slightly crass 24/7 learner is the next step Stimulate learningcontent outside the classroom -flipclass? #ukedchat @janbaker97 @thelazyteacher "3 Bs before me" approach - Brain. Board/Book, Buddy... and then ask your teacher #ukedchat @genkijen: @ukedchat #ukedchat i am going to look for more ways to get the children to teach each other and me #ukedchat > excellent! @ICTmagic Gove doesn't listen to Heads, Heads don't listen to staff, staff don't listen to kids #ukedchat @janbaker97 @thelazyteacher brain buddy board ( wall ) boss #ukedchat :-) RT @jamesmichie: @PatParslow absolutely, an open teacher creates an open learning environment. #ukedchat RT @SurrealAnarchy: @catmill The true innovation in education would be to engender the love of the pursuit of wisdom #ukedchat @SheliBB love mantle and totally agree children take
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mrpeel cherylren AndrewManson1 stephenheppell ePaceonline jamesmichie syded06 ICTmagic ukedchat
control and are experts is fab way of engaging #ukedchat RT @jackieschneider: @ICTmagic Gove doesn't listen to Heads, Heads don't listen to staff, staff don't listen to kids #ukedchat @catmill You're right. It's ideological and political. We strategically comply, all the while trying to do what we *think is right #ukedchat I've just built an open ended activity around challenging stereotypes to prompt debate. Might appeal to some http://t.co/Zou7xsYF #ukedchat oh bother - missed #ukedchat tonight - looked really good too. Have to wait for the archive now. Hi & bye if you're still there #ukedchat @ICTmagic thanks for hosting a very interesting debate tonight. @raisechildrens @kvnmcl Lol! Theres a whole other discussion there, do not get me started. #ukedchat @jackieschneider @ICTmagic but if we listen to kids it's easier? #ukedchat Everyone is responsible for their own future. They must make choices & decisions. Even the wrong ones. But we are there to guide. #ukedchat It's 9pm & sadly #ukedchat must come to a close. Thanks to @ICTmagic & all chatters for another great session. View http://t.co/8FUKee6R
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