Hell Vision’s Collision With Scripture

By Patricia Backora
It’s all too easy for believers, especially new believers, to be
fascinated by, or deceived by, “deeper truths” based on visions and
other paranormal experiences allegedly given by “the Lord.” Still
more dangerous is the temptation to put visions (and even alleged
manifestation of the Spiritual Gifts) on an equal footing with
Scripture in formulating doctrine. Visions are exciting for the very
fact they’re rare and other-worldly. In our eagerness to plumb the
depths of spiritual things we must maintain godly discernment in a
world where satan’s demons are only too happy to accommodate
Christians who long for unusual experiences in their Christian walk.

A group of Latin American young people set out to go on a picnic

but ended up taking a tour of hell instead, allegedly conducted by
the Lord Jesus Christ. “Jesus” quoted many grim Scriptures to the
group to lend legitimacy to their experience. But even the devil can
bait his hook with scripture to ensnare believers, as Jesus found out
in Matthew Chapter 4, when satan tempted Him in the wilderness.
Throughout the “vision”, Jesus remains a passive spectator of hell’s
torments, powerless to help anyone, even when He is moved to a
little pity. MY Bible teaches that ALL power in heaven and in earth
is ALREADY given to Jesus (Matt.28:18).

Most of the vision is so graphic and lewd only the most unbalanced
sicko could enjoy it. Just reading through it made my insides crawl
with an oppression I knew wasn’t of the Lord. The fruit of the Spirit
is love, joy and peace, along with other POSITIVE traits (Gal.5:22).
MY Bible teaches us to do all things “unto edifying” (I Cor.14:26).
Doesn’t the good Lord set the example in how we’re to conduct our
Christian lives (John 15:13)? Would you teach YOUR children
holiness by leading them through a stinking cesspool of graphic
lewd tortures which would make Hugh Heffner blush? Now if the
brutalities depicted in the alleged vision aren’t edifying the tour
group and teaching them about the love of God, then isn’t this
alleged “Jesus” breaking Paul’s exhortation to “do all things unto
edifying”?

How can anyone harmonize this religious dung with “whatsoever

things are lovely”, etc., think on those things (see Phil.4:8)? Does
Paul ever teach Christians to cogitate on possible torture techniques
satan could cook up to do God’s “dirty work” of punishing souls in
hell? The sky’s the limit! But I can’t imagine MY Jesus commanding
His little children to keep their hearts pure (Matt.5:8) while guiding
them through a post-mortem Abu Ghraib where helpless captives
are repeatedly burned and brutalized by barbed snakes.
God created hell for the devil and his angels (Matt.25:41), although
the story of Lazarus and the Rich Man makes it clear that wicked
men end up there too. But God’s PRIMARY goal in creating hell
was to punish satan and the evil angels who rebelled with him eons
ago. Why, then, would this vision depict fallen angels (demons) as
God’s executioners in hell? THEY’RE the ones meting out God’s
alleged penalties for sins they themselves tempted humans to
commit, and yet they’re spared the same punishment they inflict
on humans. Is the mastermind of the sin above the law and its
penalties? People go to hell largely because satan tempted them
away from Christ. Why should the tempters of mankind be given
preferential treatment down in hell, devising and dishing out the
torture, while they get off scot-free? Did GOD sanction such
unspeakably lewd and horrible punishments that are beyond the
imagination of the most demented sex fiend? The apostle John said
that God is Love and God is Light and in Him is no darkness AT ALL
(I John 1:5;4:8).

Even if you shrug off the vision’s Marquis de Sade brutality because
hell IS a horrible place of suffering, this vision and the “Jesus”
giving this tour still fall short of God’s perfection. The weakest link
breaks the strongest chain. I’ll expound upon other broken links I
found in this vision.

Contradictions abound between this vision and Christ’s policy of

showing mercy toward enemies, the nature of His resurrected body
and the physiology of Roman crucifixion.

The author stated: The man extended his skinny hand towards the
Lord and started to cry out, saying, "Lord, have mercy on me! Lord
have mercy on me! I am in pain! I am burning! Please have
mercy and take me out of this place!"***My comment:
Rom.10:12-13 says the Lord is rich (in mercy) unto ALL who call
upon Him, and whosoever will call upon the Name of the Lord shall
be saved (no mention of whether that one is dead or alive). ALL live
unto God (Luke 20:38). Jesus repeatedly asks His own followers to
love their enemies and do good to those who hate them
(Matt.5:44). Yet the “Jesus” in this vision repeatedly turns a deaf
ear to heartrending pleas from broken, tormented souls for
forgiveness and mercy. Doesn’t this “Jesus” practice what He
preaches? Even James, the most legalistic of the apostles, describes
God as being “very pitiful” (taking pity and showing compassion)
and of tender mercy.

I certainly don't believe in Universal Salvation, where ALL men will

end up saved, but the only way I could reconcile Jesus’ inability to
forgive and save lost souls after death would be the INABILITY of
those people to SINCERELY seek forgiveness and mercy, because by
then they would be permanently hardened into a state of rebellion
against God, since the Holy Spirit is no longer dealing with them
about their need to be saved (see John 16:8). First there's death,
then the judgment (Heb.9:27) It’s true that God’s Spirit reaches a
point of “no return” where he will no longer strive with men, and
sinners hardened in unbelief must take the consequences (Gen.6:3;
Prov.1:24-31).***

The author: The Lord looked at him with pity, and I started to feel
something warm in my hand. I looked and it was blood...the blood
of Jesus! The Lord's blood came from His hand while He was
watching this suffering man engulfed in flames.***My comment:
This reminds me of the Catholic doctrine of the bleeding stigmata.
Historians claim that Romans crucified by nailing WRISTS, not
hands, to the cross. There is a tiny gap between the bones of the
wrist (the space of Destot) strong enough to support the weight of
an adult male. Had the Roman executioner driven the nail through
the palms of Christ’s hands, the weight of Jesus’ body would have
caused His metacarpal and phalange (finger) bones to rip away
from the nails. These long bones have nothing but soft flesh,
tendons and ligaments between them. Like other crucified men,
Jesus would have repeatedly raised Himself up to avoid suffocation
before exhaustion and unbearable pain made him drop down again.
As Jesus writhed in such agony, His hands would have given way to
the strain, even if His feet were also firmly nailed.

In Scripture, there is no word for “wrist” as such. In KJV

translations of both Hebrew and Greek Bible texts “hand” could
signify any part from the forearm down to the actual hand. Eliezer
put bracelets on Rebekah’s “hands”(Gen.24:22). Bracelets aren’t
worn on the palms of the hands, but on the wrist, or maybe even
further up. Jesus now possesses a resurrected body of FLESH AND
BONE (Luke 24:39). We also will inherit the same type of body
Jesus has (Phil.3:21). Flesh and blood cannot inherit the Kingdom
of God (I Cor.15:50). Jesus has already offered up His precious
blood ONCE in heaven for our sins (Heb.7:27; 9:12;13:12). Jesus
does not still shed His blood, and certainly not down in hell! Jesus
still possesses the marks of His wounds, but they don’t bleed
anymore. When Thomas inspected Jesus’ hands, nothing was
written about blood coming out of them. For this author to state
that he held Jesus by the hand and felt blood oozing out of it is
suspicious. Based on God’s standard of perfect faithfulness to “it is
written”, this “Jesus bleeding in hell” vision fails the “prove all
things” (I Thes.5:21) test. My teacher would say at test-taking
time: If part of the question’s wrong, it’s ALL wrong. That goes for
visions from “the Lord” too. Jesus warned that false Christs would
proliferate in these Last days and deceive many, even God’s own
elect if possible (Matt.24:24). Doctrine must NEVER be based on
extra-Biblical visions. The REAL Jesus always bats 100%. Jesus’
standard for Himself is flawless perfection, not inconsistency (John
8:46). So this vision must be a religious deception of satan, given
through “another Jesus” (2 Cor.11:4).***
• * * * *

Another Broken Link: “Jesus” rigidly enforces an unscriptural

monetary tithing Law on believers who aren’t even under the real
Law of Moses.

The author stated: We continued walking, seeing thousands and

thousands of people. There were young people, adults and elderly
people suffering in torment. We arrived in a place that looked like a
big swimming pool of fire, with thousands of men and women inside
of it. Each of them had metal plate on their chest that read: "I am
here for not giving tithes and offerings "***My comment: More
confirmation that this is a FALSE VISION! The REAL Jesus NEVER
punishes people for failure to keep unscriptural doctrine! If
Christians could lose their salvation for non-tithing, the lack of
warnings about this in Paul’s epistles is scandalous! Satan doesn’t
mind 99% truth, so long as he can sneak in 1% arsenic to kill
people spiritually.

Salvation is God’s FREE gift! (Rom..5:15). If money (or other

sacrifice) must be paid by the believer to keep this free Gift of God,
it’s, no longer free. Instead you’re only renting salvation for the
length of time you’re willing (or able) to cough up the cash, and if
you don’t pay your “rent” this OTHER CHRIST (see 2 Cor.11:4) will
throw you out of the Ark of Salvation, just like the landlord will evict
you from your apartment! Do we have to pay “protection money”
to KEEP God’s free gift with so-called tithes and offerings? At best,
you could compare such a “free gift” with a Christmas puppy which
is freely given, but you have to PAY (pet food, etc.) to maintain its
existence. Who keeps us: God, or Me, Myself and I (John 17:12;
Jude 24)? Judas was the ONLY disciple Jesus lost, and I doubt it
was because he didn’t tithe on his thirty pieces of silver!

The rebukes of Malachi aren’t aimed at the NT church, but they’re

for the priests and sons of Jacob (Mal.2:1; 3:6). Surely the REAL
Jesus remembers those particular verses and can distinguish
between Old Covenant Jews and New Covenant Christians! Surely
God is able to remember who He addressed various rebukes to in
Scripture. Jesus doesn’t teach false doctrine, or add postscript laws
to the COMPLETED canon of His Written Word.
The fact remains that NO form of tithing is commanded to the NT
church, and NOWHERE in either testament does God command
tithing to be done on money! MY Jesus sticks strictly to: IT IS
WRITTEN (Matt.4:4,7,10). God rebukes those who ADD TO His
commandments, just as much as taking away from those
commandments (Deut.12:32). Christ denounces those who teach
for doctrines THE COMMANDMENTS OF MEN and substitute man-
made traditions for Scriptural truth (Matt.15:9; Mark 7:9) ***

The author stated: When I read that, I asked the Lord, "Lord, how
can this be possible, that people are here for this reason??" The
Lord responded, "Yes, because these people thought that tithes and
offerings were not important, when my Word shows it as a
command***My comment: Circumcision and animal sacrifices are
also commands, but not for us! Why pick and choose the big
money-maker out of the Old Law when Jesus doesn’t punish people
for failure to offer drink oblations and bullocks on the church
offertory table?***."

The author: In Malachi 3:8-9 it says "Will a man rob God? Yet you
are robbing Me. But you say, 'How have we robbed Thee?' In tithes
and offerings. You are cursed with curse, for you are robbing Me,
the whole nation of you." ***My comment: God is addressing a
NATION here, a particular territory of the earth (see Mal.3:12,
where the OTHER NATIONS, Gentile peoples, praise ISRAEL for
being a delightsome LAND)! Tithing was PART OF THE LAW, given
BY MOSES FROM MT. SINAI TO THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL ONLY
(Lev.27:30-34). Money was NEVER deposited in the Temple
storehouse (Heb. outsair, or granary) of Malachi !***

The author: The Lord told me that when His people withhold their
tithes, it hinders the work of the Lord, and then the Gospel is not
preached***My comment: Why didn’t “the Lord” of this vision
mention this minor point in any of the apostolic epistles to the
church? Whenever giving (never tithing) is taught, it is usually in
conjunction with giving to the poor (Rom.15:26). Peter. James, John
and Paul preached the Gospel just fine without ever dunning their
flock for “tithe money”. Peter was broke but he still managed to get
people saved and healed (Acts 3:6; 2:41; 5:15). Paul had NOTHING
and yet possessed all things (2 Cor.6:10). Why didn’t Paul remedy
this sad situation by threatening his flock with the tortures of hell
for non-tithing? Paul plainly stated that he had faithfully shared ALL
the counsel of God with his hearers (Acts 20:27). Paul teaches
gracious GIVING, but where are his instructions on how to tithe
properly?
The apostle John’s missionary team took NOTHING from Gentiles
they preached to (3 John 1). Was John endangering those Gentiles’
souls by neglecting to tell them they’d better tithe or be toast? Did
the writer’s “Jesus” forget the souls won by John and his co-
workers. 2000 years ago? And what’s wrong with Paul, boasting
that he wanted to make the preaching of the Gospel free of charge
(I Cor.9:18)? Didn’t John the Revelator foresee that “Jesus” would
someday reveal to future visionaries this profound new truth: that
souls can’t hear the Gospel without tithe money?

The author: People in this place suffered a thousand times worse

than others, because they knew the Word of the Lord and
disobeyed.***My comment: God forbid that any preacher use this
“vision” to “prove” tithing. Just the insinuation that non-tithing
deserves a thousand times as much punishment in hell as your
average thief, rapist, or murderer. Talk about tampering with a
Christian’s conscience! So it’s the fault of non-tithers if
unevangelized people roast in hell because they disobeyed a
MANMADE church tithing law! And used-to-be Christians will be fed
to infernal worms for refusing to feed their debit card into the
church ATM (Automatic Tithing Machine), while this alleged “Jesus”
doesn’t care if we break other OT laws, such as eating pork BBQ
and ironing a shirt on Saturday (the true Sabbath Day). Preachers
resort to the worst emotional torture and spiritual intimidation to
enforce a doctrine of devils for carnal gain! This is satanic spiritual
witchcraft (see Gal.3:1) which robs Christians of their liberty in
Christ. Threatening some poor widow with rattlesnake rapists and
acid Jacuzzis should be more than enough to SCARE every red cent
out of her coin purse! The Mafia wouldn’t be so mean!

Preachers profit from bringing God’s children back under bondage to

Law. Unwarranted threats of salvation loss and hell fire should do
the trick for greedy parasites who’d rather inflict profound
psychological damage on unsuspecting Christians than work an
honest job. There IS a curse, but preachers aren’t warning against
the correct one. Far from being “cursed with a curse” for failure to
tithe, you bring a curse upon yourself for coming back under Law
and for failure to keep this particular OT law according to God’s
precise specifications (i.e. tithing ONLY on what is grown in the Land
of Israel (Lev.27:30), restricting the tithing law to ISRAEL ONLY
(verse 34), using part of your tithe to enjoy a meal of Thanksgiving
at your place of worship (Deut.14:23), giving ALL the tithe every
third year to the poor (Deut.14:28-29), exempting the priesthood
from religious taxation (including so-called tithing, Ezra 7:24), and
giving people a break every seventh (sabbatical) year from tithing
(No tithes could be collected on the produce of Israel every seventh
year when the land rested, see Lev.25:4).
Speaking of a non-tithing priesthood, it just so happens WE’RE the
NT priesthood according to I Pet.2:5,9). Why should Jesus tax His
own priesthood if this was never done under the Old Covenant,
which is called a BETTER covenant (see Heb.8:6)? MY Jesus said
God’s children are free from having to pay taxes to their own
Kingdom (Matt.17:26). Where in all the gospels does Jesus EVER
collect tithes to finance His own ministry or ever command His
disciples to fund “their ministries” this way? When Jesus sent His
men out to preach, He spoke only of FOOD as being their earthly
reward (Luke 10:7). No mention of “tithe money” being needed to
sustain their missionary journey! The attitude of this particular
“Jesus” towards filthy lucre is dramatically different from that of the
Jesus of the Bible Who warned against reliance on earthly wealth
(Matt.6:19; Luke 12:21).

Jesus KNEW He had no right to demand tithes, even tithes from the
fruit of the earth. Jesus was a Jew from the Tribe of Judah. Neither
He nor the majority of His disciples qualified to collect tithes, as
most of them were from the Tribe of Judah. Only sons of the
patriarch Levi had a commandment from God to take tithes
(Heb.7:5). Is your preacher a Jew from the Tribe of Levi? If not,
he’s already breaking God’s law by taking tithes from you, even
before you consider all the other provisos of this law which have
been genetically modified by sinful religious leaders over the
centuries. Jesus does NOT inflict post-mortem punishments on
believers for failure to keep any late amendments He made to a Law
He set them free from in the first place (Rom.8:2)!

Jesus and His men performed loads of miracles. They were

supported by freewill (not forced, or compulsory) offerings alone
(Luke 8:3). NOT ONCE does Jesus even hint that people will fry in
hell for failure to pay His alleged representatives ten per cent of
their wages or salaries. Preachers strain God’s patience by acting
like He’s too senile to remember the clear instructions He gave for
correct law-keeping in His own Written Word. God must be getting
up in years, some think, and didn’t really mean what was recorded
in His Word. So Biblical scholars think they can do a switcheroo
routine behind God’s back, and He’ll never notice the difference.
But, this isn’t like turning Old Coke into New Coke. You can’t fool
Mother Nature, and you can’t fool the Creator of Nature. Modern
tithing doesn’t pass the taste test for sound Biblical doctrine,
anymore than cheap margarine passes the “real butter” taste. Much
money can be made by fooling consumers (and Christians).
Suppose a butter manufacturer decides to maximize his profits by
taking all the rich, expensive cow cream out of butter, then he adds
chemicals, water and fake food coloring to whip up “Blessedly
Buttery.” By the time two or three generations have smeared this
adulterated goo onto their toast, the taste of true butter is forgotten
and a profit has been made by eliminating the vital elements which
comprise real butter.

Tithe teachers would find it very costly to confess that they’ve lied
to God’s people for centuries. Biblical tithing has been changed
beyond recognition. Its purpose was to feed poor people
(Deut.14:28-29). Man’s New-and-improved tithing threatens the
poor with hellfire for buying food with their own hard-earned cash
instead of tithing it to rich preachers. Just like corporation
accountants advise manufacturers to eliminate quality ingredients
from processed foods to save a penny to maximize profits, the true
Biblical tithe has been stripped of its key characteristics and turned
into a profitable racket. God’s clear instructions have been discarded
in favor of man’s own rules and regulations. But whenever a poor
believer suffers demonic depression from unwarranted guilt over
non-tithing, God claims no credit for that and counts it as sin
against the preacher who instilled the oppression in the Christian.
Modern tithing in no way resembles the true Biblical version, except
for the ten per cent figure preachers have retained for their own
benefit.

Preachers lade grievous burdens (see Luke 11:46) onto Christians

who are not under Law, but grace (Rom.6:14; Gal.5:18). Like old-
style Pharisees of Jesus’ day, these hypocrites refuse to touch any
of these burdens themselves.

Keep one law, you must keep it ALL (Gal.3:10). Galatians 5:4
warns Christians not to try to earn God’s favor through law-keeping,
or they’ll fall from grace. So why does this alleged Jesus take away
people’s salvation for failure to keep MAN’S version of Moses’ tithing
Law given to Israel only? Why wasn’t this particular Jesus more
concerned about believers coming under the curse of the Law and
falling from grace? Why did the council of apostles in Acts 15 fail to
even hint that Gentile believers in Jesus are required to fork over
ten per cent of their salaries and wages to preachers? That apostolic
council would have been the PERFECT opportunity for the Holy
Ghost to bind a perpetual tithing obligation upon the (mostly)
Gentile church. So why didn’t the Holy Ghost burden the church
with tithing from the very outset of the Church Age (Acts 15:28-
29)?

Why would “Jesus” wait until people are already roasting in hell fire
to announce He’d made a few last-minute amendments to NT law
and that’s the reason these people are wearing a big brass sign
accusing them of welshing on their tithes? Is it fair for “Jesus” to
inflict retroactive penalties on people who broke the un-Biblical
monetary Tithing Law before He threw in the towel and endorsed
this COMMANDMENT OF MEN? If you can’t beat ‘em, join ‘em! After
excoriating the scribes and Pharisees for enforcing manmade
traditions instead of being faithful to “it is written” (Matt.4: 4,7,10;
Mark 7:9), what made “Jesus” finally cave in to centuries of
pressure from money-hungry preachers and decide to give
manmade religious traditions the same weight as Scripture? Why
would “Jesus” wait till it’s everlastingly too late for non-tithers to
repent of breaking this modernized tithing regulation which the
apostles neglected to mention in Acts 15?! Why doesn’t this “Jesus”
worry that the inmates in hell forgot to keep all the other OT
ordinances, from sidelocks to circumcision? These things are Biblical
commandments too! But then again, there’s no MONEY to be made
out of those other defunct Mosaic laws! ***

I rest my case.